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Ukrainian Energy Mriya: From American Fuel Cassettes at Existing Ukrainian Nuclear Power Plants to Canadian Solar Power Station in Chernobyl

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Last week, the leadership of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant (Ukraine) cheerfully reported that the station began loading cassettes with fuel elements of American production. We are talking about the fuel rods of the company Westinghouse, with which the Ukrainian energy sector entered into a partnership agreement.


15 June US Deputy Secretary of Energy Edward McGinnis arrived at the Zaporizhia NPP on a working visit. He met with the president of the Ukrainian company Energoatom, Yury Nedashkovsky, and the general director of the nuclear power plant, Vyacheslav Tishchenko. The main topic of the meeting was connected precisely with plans to introduce American nuclear fuel at the Zaporizhia NPP reactors.

Ukrainian Energy Mriya: From American Fuel Cassettes at Existing Ukrainian Nuclear Power Plants to Canadian Solar Power Station in Chernobyl


From McGinnis statement:
The main purpose of my visit is to demonstrate the strengthening of partnership with the government and the people of Ukraine. In addition, my visit coincided with a very important event - the loading of fresh fuel of the second, alternative, supplier of nuclear fuel for Ukraine. This is an important step in improving the energy security of the state.


“Enhancing the security of the state” when replacing proven Russian-made fuel elements with unsuitable for a number of characteristics American production rods — strongly! ..

The press service of the power plant and the press secretary of the entire Ministry of Energy of Ukraine threw caps into the air, talking about how the Ukrainian people will now heal. The main emphasis is placed on the fact that, he says, buying fuel from Russia is “Zrada”, and therefore it is necessary to focus on the procurement of fuel cells from American partners.

From the message press service of ZNPP:
For the first time in stories operation of the Zaporizhzhya NPP at the station will use fresh (the Ukrainian side insists on using this particular term. Apparently, there is also American fuel not of the first freshness ...) fuel from the Westinghouse multinational company, which is now being loaded into the reactor core of power unit No. XXUMX Currently, the 5 fuel assemblies of the Westinghouse company (TVS-WR) are located in the reactor core of the power unit No. XXUMX). In total, the volume of the first batch is planned to load 6 TVS-WR.




It is noted that fuel cartridges arrived in Ukraine from the territory of Sweden, where one of the branches of the American company operates.

From the statement of the press service:
Also at the event, the delegation visited the dry spent nuclear fuel storage site (SNFS) and a full-scale simulator of the ZNPP training center, after which the delegation of the US Department of Energy left for Dnipro.


It seems that the majority of nuclear specialists who are aware of what the consequences and operational efficiency of nuclear reactors of the actual Soviet development of American fuel assemblies could be would be that in this situation Dnipro was a river ... However, it was about the city ... Dnipropetrovsk. It was there that the American delegation continued the discussion on the introduction of US energy projects in Ukraine, which actually turns into a kind of testing ground, which allows the US to make a profit in the new market, not really worrying about what this kind of activity promises directly to the market itself.

Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in connection with the beginning of the use of American nuclear fuel claims the palm in terms of the disposal of waste from the products of two manufacturers of nuclear fuel. So far, the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant is the only nuclear power plant in Ukraine that deals with the disposal of Russian spent nuclear fuel in its own repository. All other NPPs of the “independent” nuclear “mining” are exported under a previously concluded contract for disposal or reprocessing to Russia. From next year (2017), the contract between the Russian Federation and Ukraine for the export of fuel ceases to act, and Kiev is clearly not going to extend it. Instead, Kiev is discussing with the American "partners" the topic of creating a supermogily in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. It is planned to transport spent nuclear fuel there (now American too) from at least three Ukrainian power plants - the South Ukrainian, Khmelnitsky and Rovno (Rovno) ones. Moreover, the government of Ukraine since the time of Yatsenyuk has been discussing the possibility of offering “services” to the Chernobyl cemetery for the disposal of spent fuel from nuclear power plants located in European countries. They say, they say, we will provide this opportunity with a substantial discount.

Judging by the reports of the Ukrainian departments, Kiev intends to at least make an “impressive” energy project on paper from the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. Here - and digging new "pits" for the disposal of nuclear waste not only from all over Ukraine, but also, perhaps, Europe, and the project plan for creating a solar power plant in the exclusion zone (attention!). The Ministry of Environment of Ukraine said that a Canadian investor is going to invest in the installation of a solar power plant near Chernobyl and a biofuel plant.

From the press service of the Ministry of Environment of Ukraine:
Canadian investors are looking at the possibility of building biofuel plants and solar power plants on the territory of the Chernobyl zone with interest. From the Canadian businessmen there were several real proposals regarding the possible construction. We consider all proposals for the implementation of alternative energy programs.


And energy, really, is striking in its alternativeness ... Well, if only because the number of sunny days in the Chernobyl area for effective operation of solar power plants raises certain doubts ... Or, the Chernobyl exclusion zone with the Maidan authorities managed to turn into an area that is more than 300 days does the sun shine in a year? ..

A spokesman for the Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources Ostap Semerak noted that so far there is one major obstacle for the implementation of Canadian investors' plans (and this, according to Semerak’s logic, is not the absence of an adequate number of sunny days). This obstacle is the unregulated status of Chernobyl lands. Apparently, it is this unresolved status that attracts foreign investors more similar to combinators, because they are going to sell Ukraine not only solar batteries with practically zero efficiency in the Chernobyl zone, but also the so-called “energy crops” that are seriously planted in Ukraine by Chernobyl territory. It would seem that this is some kind of stupid phantasmagoria ... But it is precisely on these steps that Kiev is ready to go, in addition to purchasing American fuel assemblies Westinghouse.

TV channel 112 Ukraine cites the statement of Mr. Semerak mentioned above:
We expect that the bill number XXUMX to resolve this issue (the status of the Chernobyl lands) will be fully adopted before the end of the current session of the Verkhovna Rada. In early June, he had already passed the first reading. This will make it possible to regulate the Ukrainian legislation on the issue of land allocation in the Chernobyl NPP area, where there are about 4437 thousand hectares of unused land, some of which can be used to house electrical generation facilities, and some - for growing energy crops.


So, it is time to summarize all the energy achievements and initiatives of Kiev recently. American rods on Soviet reactors - times. South African "golden" coal at CHP - two. Willingness (of forest officials) to use firewood instead of coal in thermal power plants - three. Solar panels where there is no sun much more often than it is - four. Growing corn and rapeseed on Chernobyl-contaminated soils is five.

After this, it is even scary to assume what kind of “energy” project Ukrainian officials are ready to take for the sake of another budget cut. Tidal power plant on the river Shostka? .. Or is it still a power plant operating on the insanity of Ukrainian officials of different levels? ..
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 23 June 2016 05: 58
    .
    Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.
    1. Dam
      Dam 23 June 2016 06: 07
      +14
      It seems that absurd actions are required from the puppets of the rulers, which would constantly prove allegiance to the puppeteer
      1. Altona
        Altona 23 June 2016 10: 53
        +3
        Quote: Damm
        It seems that absurd actions are required from the puppets of the rulers, which would constantly prove allegiance to the puppeteer

        ------------------
        Simply put, mice cry but continue to bite a cactus.
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 23 June 2016 11: 30
        +2
        Such behavior is tapped on the corner by representatives of the victorious Maidan until the very first total Trindets. Then they will collect the little things and dump them on the alternate aerodrome from the unfit for living unplanned ends.
    2. Professor
      Professor 23 June 2016 06: 47
      +28
      Quote: Teberii
      Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

      Well yes. Only now the consequences will not be limited only to the territory of Ukraine. If it explodes, it will be given to everyone, both Europe and Russia. And yes, let them have fun. Independence. request
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 23 June 2016 06: 54
        +11
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Teberii
        Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

        Well yes. Only now the consequences will not be limited only to the territory of Ukraine. If it explodes, it will be given to everyone, both Europe and Russia. And yes, let them have fun. Independence. request

        And why does the Cunning vote not? Belarus will suffer the most or is busy gluing labels.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 23 June 2016 07: 53
          +8
          in Ukraine seriously going to sow Chernobyl territories.

          That's really it: fools are not sown and plowed there - they themselves are born!
          1. Altona
            Altona 23 June 2016 10: 55
            +3
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            That's really it: fools are not sown and plowed there - they themselves are born!

            --------------------
            Fatherland needs a hero, and mother gives birth to a fool. Something like this. request
      2. Khariton
        Khariton 23 June 2016 08: 42
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Teberii
        Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

        Well yes. Only now the consequences will not be limited only to the territory of Ukraine. If it explodes, it will be given to everyone, both Europe and Russia. And yes, let them have fun. Independence. request

        The professor absolutely agrees with you .... There should be no "politics" in this matter! hi
      3. Pereira
        Pereira 23 June 2016 10: 30
        -6
        We have been scared for several years by the second Chernobyl. Soon everyone will not care.
        1. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 23 June 2016 10: 45
          +4
          Quote: Pereira
          We have been scared for several years by the second Chernobyl. Soon everyone will not care.

          If he cares, he doesn’t take off.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 23 June 2016 10: 58
            -1
            I agree. It will be so. But today the horror stories are already tired. Too long, too often and wasted. There are vague suspicions that everything is not so fatal.
            1. Rostov Papa
              Rostov Papa 23 June 2016 12: 51
              +6
              . But today the horror stories are already tired. Too long, too often and wasted. There are vague suspicions that everything is not so fatal.

              In Fakushima, they also thought so ...

              In the first 5 months of 2016, 9 (nine) violations in the operation of Ukrainian nuclear power plants were recorded. Power units accidentally stopped (in chronology):

              January 20 - Rivne NPP

              February 20 - South Ukrainian NPP

              March 21 - South Ukrainian NPP

              March 23 - South Ukrainian NPP

              March 27 - Rivne NPP

              April 7 - Zaporizhzhya NPP

              April 11 - Zaporizhzhya NPP

              May 10 - Rivne NPP

              May 18 - Zaporizhzhya NPP.

              The power units of three nuclear power plants out of four operating for less than half a year three times failed. And in March, the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant stopped altogether. Compared to previous years, accident rate has increased
              5 times. "

              Khmelnitsky NPP

              August 28, 2015 - emergency shutdown of power unit No. 1 due to the fact that water leaked in the electric heater of the pressure compensator, having penetrated the pressure chamber of the reactor.

              Rivne NPP

              January 20, 2016 - emergency shutdown of power unit No. 3 due to a decrease in vacuum in the turbine condensers.

              March 27, 2016 - emergency shutdown of power unit No. 3 in connection with the detection of leaks in the cooling system of the stator of the turbogenerator generator.

              May 10, 2016 - again emergency shutdown of power unit No. 3 due to the detection of leaks in the stator cooling system of the turbogenerator generator.
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 23 June 2016 13: 01
                -4
                Fukushima from which side? Are there TVELs loaded instead of Westinghouse?

                Are you looking forward to the disaster in Ukraine?
                1. Rostov Papa
                  Rostov Papa 23 June 2016 13: 55
                  +3
                  Fukushima from which side? Are there TVELs loaded instead of Westinghouse?
                  On the scale of accidents at nuclear power plants, it exceeded by one what happened near Kiev 25 years ago. The accumulating information about the new tragedy destroys the stereotype about the safety of Western technologies for taming the peaceful atom. Fukushima is a Japanese station. But the Americans built it! The ill-fated coastal nuclear power plant was designed by General Electric and commissioned in 1971. Serious technical mistakes were made during its creation. The Americans did not take into account the high seismic hazard of the Japanese Islands and the possibility of the coincidence of an earthquake and a tsunami - they treated the case like cowboys, not engineers. By the way, a year ago the IAEA commission pointed out these shortcomings in the NPP design and proposed to eliminate them. But the owners decided that the station was old - anyway, it would soon be decommissioned. Why spend money? Let it work like that! They hoped for "maybe", although this is a Russian god, not a Japanese one. Another unpleasant news was the sluggishness of the Japanese nuclear security system. While officials at various levels passed through themselves proposals to prevent the meltdown of reactor cores, they ... melted, spitting on Japanese bureaucratic politeness. And then it turned out that if in the first 40 minutes the reactors were cooled with water - any, even sea - there would be no radiation release. But it didn’t occur to the Japanese specialists to use seawater - after all, the reactors would “deteriorate” from it! Although the reactors have already deteriorated, exploding and spitting on the surroundings with radioactive isotopes. In my opinion, the reason for the tragedy is that the Japanese have long lost the ability to think with their own minds, relying on their older American brothers who brainwashed them after World War II. For example, the Hiroshima Museum has everything about that first nuclear disaster in world history. Except for one thing - you will not find information anywhere in it that the Americans dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. This unconsciousness reverberated with Fukushima.
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                  2. Pereira
                    Pereira 23 June 2016 16: 58
                    -2
                    You have just described in great detail how the risks in Fukushima are fundamentally different from those in Ukraine. These are completely different problems that can be solved in completely different ways.

                    By the way, did Fukushima have the technical ability to cool the rector with water? Pumps, cabling, hoses?
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      4. Imperialkolorad
        Imperialkolorad 23 June 2016 10: 44
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Well yes. Only now the consequences will not be limited only to the territory of Ukraine. If it explodes, it will be given to everyone, both Europe and Russia. And yes, let them have fun. Independence.

        It is sad that we can only hope for a wind rose because there is no hope for the prudence of the horses.
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 23 June 2016 09: 14
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

      Very original. If with a nuclear power plant, everything is clear - an experiment. Then this one: "Cultivation of corn and rapeseed on Chernobyl contaminated soils - five." I can't understand at all. Why do they need Chernobyl? What, what, let alone suitable land in Ukraine, and without it enough ... request
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 23 June 2016 12: 56
        0
        Quote: Observer 33
        Growing corn and rapeseed on Chernobyl contaminated soils - five.

        and what kind of radioactive biofuel they will turn out, and the volumes of production from Chernobyl corn will already increase (there, after all, kukruzina will be five times more than usual), this is how many horses will be added in diesels ... wassat
    4. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 23 June 2016 16: 09
      -1
      From ZAES to Crimea, only 170km (+ .-) at one time from Chernobyl reached even MSCs and Scandinavians so that they will receive everything in the event of an emergency.
    5. Angestyr
      Angestyr 23 June 2016 17: 35
      -1
      If these ghouls lived somewhere in 100-120 parsecs from the Earth, then yes and yes - let them experiment. BUT they are the same on our doorstep! creatures!
    6. bk316
      bk316 23 June 2016 21: 21
      +2
      Quote: Teberii
      the child didn’t amuse himself only if he cried.

      Are you so kidding? No need to play around with nuclear reactors in the middle of Europe.
      And then everyone will have to cry.
  2. Scud
    Scud 23 June 2016 05: 59
    +23
    I don’t understand which of us wash us out, and call the pan a head? You know, it hurts like a boska cola, we jump and fall on a rake. And the rake is our saint.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 23 June 2016 07: 04
      +6
      Just in case of something, your rake painfully comes around not only with a pan-saucepan, but also with others. And the next Chernobyl will be raked not by the Americans, but by Belarusians and me.
    2. mad
      mad 23 June 2016 07: 36
      +4
      Quote: scud
      You know, it hurts like a boska cola, we jump and fall on a rake.


      Peremoga will come soon! The pots will begin to glow from the inside and a bright future will come ... the rake will become more visible.
      1. Koresh
        Koresh 23 June 2016 11: 04
        +1
        Somehow it's not at all fun ... sad
  3. valent45
    valent45 23 June 2016 05: 59
    +4
    In general, Ukraine will soon be one solid nuclear repository. All ruling shushera escapes
    to the West, and ordinary people will gradually mutate.
  4. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 23 June 2016 06: 06
    +5
    And the rake is our sacred .. Carry a new rake ..
  5. Absurdidat
    Absurdidat 23 June 2016 06: 11
    -8
    Yes, it’s just that we once again howled for profit, and we’re hysterical. They’re just blunt-headed to allow the second Chernobyl. Everything will work and all the radioactive ram will be brought in from around the world in 404. And we need at least some benefit and cost compensation. Nehai are irradiated, they will jump higher.
  6. qwert111
    qwert111 23 June 2016 06: 14
    +5
    "After this, it's even scary to imagine what kind of" energy "project Ukrainian officials are ready to go for for the next budget cut."

    They need to put one big dynamo in Ukraine and let them spin everything together, they can reduce bad energy and increase electric power!

    Still, British microbiologist Lynne Mackaskie from the University of Birmingham has used bacteria to generate energy from the waste from a chocolate factory.
    And so, receiving electricity from vibration when walking pedestrians (do not just walk, just jump)

    And also like this Perhaps, power plant toilets will be able to power one or two bulbs, saving energy. In addition, widespread introduction of the novelty would facilitate additional wastewater treatment. (You just need to kick and write more, here's a "zrada" with a "peremogy")
  7. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 June 2016 06: 18
    +6
    Or is it still a power plant operating on the insanity of Ukrainian officials at various levels? ..

    Watch out! In this way, they will bring down prices in the market !!! There will be a clear overproduction!
  8. Alex ..
    Alex .. 23 June 2016 06: 29
    +12
    Energy Mriy ...
  9. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 23 June 2016 06: 36
    +4
    Growing corn and rapeseed on Chernobyl contaminated soils - five.

    Oh, ho, ho. Our affairs are grave. It seems very bad in an independent and wisely and with money. They sold all the normal chernozem, remained only in the Chernobyl exclusion zone. They will sow there. And they say there fungi grow well. More beautiful than that. fool
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 23 June 2016 06: 38
    +4
    As far as I understand, biofuel made from crops grown in the "dirty" zone of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant will be radioactive, and during combustion, radioactive waste gases are formed (which have no boundaries). And the engine running on such fuel will "glow", and needs to be buried and not melted down ! Ukraine will put a big pig on everyone! request hi
    1. bk316
      bk316 23 June 2016 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: fa2998
      As far as I understand, biofuel made from crops grown in the "dirty" zone of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant will be radioactive, and

      You understand correctly! But not to the end.

      Why is it now quite safe to be in the zone?
      Because all the isotopes decayed? Not at all. All because over the years they sprinkled.
      First, the most active sites were buried. Then they walked along a less active stupid plow and they were under 10-15 centimeters of soil. Then, over 30 years, sod has grown from above in the fields (economic activity is not conducted). Leaves poured into the forest.

      And now the fields will be plowed up and the first wind will carry radioactive dust to the neighbors. Next, the corn pumps active particles, they will go into fuel and will fly off the roads with exhaust. Part will remain on filters, on engine parts and fuel lines and they will also become radioactive. Then they will be melted down, radioactive pans and pans will be made. Etc. etc.
      No one will die from radiation (doses are small), but constant, which means that the number of oncological diseases will increase sharply and people will die in Russia and in Belarus, and also in Europe. And the media, and part of VO will write everything about the fraternal people. I got my dose in 86 no longer want ...
  11. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 23 June 2016 06: 44
    +4
    Tryndets Europe!
    Americans are laughing ...
  12. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 23 June 2016 06: 57
    0
    Besides laughter. Electricity in Ukraine is two times cheaper than Russian. I get electricity from the world's largest power plants ... At home, LED lamps, and microwave refrigerators. And 800 r per light per month. And the gas is half as much (I don’t take winter, it flies under two thousand for heating). Naturally, we have winter from October to May. I lived in Ukraine, it’s easier there.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 June 2016 07: 08
      +4
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Home lamps LEDs, and refrigerators with microwaves. And 800 r per light per month.

      Tea pots, vacuum cleaners, Conders, a bunch of other working equipment.
      Quote: pafegosoff
      I lived in Ukraine, it’s easier there.

      Yes, there everything is wonderful, just free.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 23 June 2016 07: 27
      +1
      Tariffs NOW are roughly equal. Only salaries - no. And with gas there, too, it became "no ice". I do not argue that about three years ago it was about half the price than in Russia.
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 June 2016 06: 58
    +1
    The energy of these, in the eyes of the crazy managers, and the revival of Ukraine ...
    Principles, principles, and systematically turn the country into a garbage dump. Nightmare...
  14. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 23 June 2016 07: 02
    +1
    Yes, indeed, the saying of my childhood performed by dill-the country needs heroes, well, I hope to continue in the course ...
  15. Beefeater
    Beefeater 23 June 2016 07: 11
    +2
    The story is unpleasant. If you still take it with stubbornly circulating rumors about cholera in Odessa ... Soon, the cordons will be on all borders with patrols on the roads.
  16. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 23 June 2016 07: 16
    +4
    Quote: Teberii
    Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

    When it gets bogged down again, all the shit will fly to us, I'm afraid that in this situation it will be much safer to iron Ukraine with our new tank army.
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      1. VeterS
        VeterS 23 June 2016 07: 33
        +1
        Article 354. Public calls for the outbreak of aggressive war.

        [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 34] [Article 354]
        ...
        You have already left for you.

        Who writes denunciations like that !? Eh, shit, you’ve completely lost your qualifications, you can’t write competently. By the way, you are already waiting for tonight at the entrance ...
        1. Schulz
          Schulz 23 June 2016 08: 25
          +1
          Quote: VeterS
          Article 354. Public calls for the outbreak of aggressive war.

          [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 34] [Article 354]
          ...
          You have already left for you.

          Who writes denunciations like that !? Eh, shit, you’ve completely lost your qualifications, you can’t write competently.

          Well, if the "professor" for some reason deleted his post - his business. Then I will try for the last time on a good address to the moderators and administration of VO and writers who write such posts here.
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Sorry for the bloodthirsty, but this time Carthage Berlin must be destroyed.

          Quote: Toropov
          for our big family a good German, this is a dead German.

          Quote: silver_roman

          why do we always behave so humanely with prisoners, the population of enemy countries? ... that exterminate 60 percent of the population. I wanted to spit on all of them: their men and women, children and the elderly.

          You guys turn on your head or don’t be offended.
          1. Professor
            Professor 23 June 2016 08: 32
            -1
            Quote: Schulz
            Well, if the "professor" for some reason deleted his post - his business.

            My post was deleted by the moderator. In his post as an opponent, he did not consider a violation of the Criminal Code of Russia. request
          2. Beefeater
            Beefeater 23 June 2016 09: 27
            0
            Excuse me, who? Medvedev in the family circle?
          3. ser-pov
            ser-pov 23 June 2016 10: 55
            0
            Most likely, such garbage is written by a minor audience of VO or completely headless !!! Don't pay attention
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          5. Cosmonaut
            Cosmonaut 23 June 2016 16: 36
            -1
            Quote: Schulz
            Quote: VeterS
            Article 354. Public calls for the outbreak of aggressive war.

            [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 34] [Article 354]
            ...
            You have already left for you.

            Who writes denunciations like that !? Eh, shit, you’ve completely lost your qualifications, you can’t write competently.

            Well, if the "professor" for some reason deleted his post - his business. Then I will try for the last time on a good address to the moderators and administration of VO and writers who write such posts here.
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Sorry for the bloodthirsty, but this time Carthage Berlin must be destroyed.

            Quote: Toropov
            for our big family a good German, this is a dead German.

            Quote: silver_roman

            why do we always behave so humanely with prisoners, the population of enemy countries? ... that exterminate 60 percent of the population. I wanted to spit on all of them: their men and women, children and the elderly.

            You guys turn on your head or don’t be offended.

            I agree !
            Such things are written either by enemies or by sick people on their heads!
            PS. picture is not the topic! wink
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            2. Schulz
              Schulz 24 June 2016 07: 21
              -1
              Quote: Beefeater
              Excuse me, who? Medvedev in the family circle?

              Quote: Cosmonaut

              PS. picture is not the topic! wink


              No, this is not Medvedev with his family, this is Ramil Ibragimov, the leader of the "young innovators" from Kazan.
              The prosecutor of Tatarstan has opened a criminal case against him for his post on the social network in support of the shooter from Orlando. He quickly deleted the post, began to say that he was misunderstood but that this made no impression on the prosecutor's office.
              This is what I meant when I called on people to turn on their head while commenting on something. T.ch. picture in the subject.
              Here is his post:
      2. visitork67
        visitork67 23 June 2016 07: 41
        0
        Orderlies from your institution (place of detention)?
  17. evil partisan
    evil partisan 23 June 2016 07: 25
    +1
    Coming soon in Ukraine:
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 June 2016 07: 35
    +10
    There will be no second Chernobyl. WWR - this is not RBMK, you just can’t blow it up. Americans are conducting an experiment to replace Russian assemblies with their own in our reactors in order to oust Russia from fuel cycle maintenance WORLDWIDE! These guys are working for the future. If the assembly replacement experiment is successful, they will begin to move their assemblies further, and not only in Maydan. Well, they will ruin the reactor - you’ll think it’s not your own, it’s not a pity.
    1. Riv
      Riv 23 June 2016 07: 48
      -1
      And what does the construction have to do with it? Cooling system - it is also a cooling system in Africa. I failed, the locks didn’t work (or like in Chernobyl: they didn’t work as expected) - and we arrived. And in order for it to fail, it is enough not to fill the stuffing box in one place, or add oil.
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 23 June 2016 12: 46
      +1
      ... it was said about the Humvees that it was impossible to turn upside down out of the blue, and that the Titanic is difficult to sink ... if there were ...
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 23 June 2016 07: 40
    +1
    Another zrada or peremoga?
  20. Riv
    Riv 23 June 2016 07: 45
    0
    Let's hope that the Zaporizhzhya NPP doesn’t get really strong and the people living around will have time to hit the road.
  21. denvar555
    denvar555 23 June 2016 08: 06
    +2
    The country of thieves and traitors to its people. Ready to sell everything and everyone just to fill their pockets. How then people will live they care little. American-made fuel assemblies in a Soviet reactor are the same as pouring gas into a diesel engine. At best, the car will break down, at worst ... it’s better not to even imagine! Chernobyl-2 is just around the corner!
  22. list79
    list79 23 June 2016 08: 15
    -1
    We are waiting for Chernobyl2 !!! Ugh, ugh, ugh !!
  23. code54
    code54 23 June 2016 09: 14
    +4
    Facial expressions in people are ambiguous! )))
  24. Samoyed
    Samoyed 23 June 2016 09: 15
    +5
    In that area there are 6 blocks with VVER and Zaporizhzhya hydroelectric power station, the concentration of energy of the accumulated water of the reservoir. Simply, stupidly, with illiterate operation, a chain of unlikely events with a catastrophe at the exit can work. And to replace American menagers in case of violation of regulations, horses are not able to. I would like to make a mistake. For example, I am glad that the INPP was closed in Lithuania, because the place of the previous work of the next director was the head of the pizzeria. With what analysis of failures could such a sur be supposed? But from it metastases grow in the form of wrong decisions, effective managers, oblivion of safety for the sake of deflection ....
    1. Riv
      Riv 23 June 2016 10: 43
      +2
      There are three factors, each of which can increase the likelihood of an accident by an order of magnitude: poor personnel training, lack of personnel control and lack of technical control. Well, or simply: "Nobody is immune from gouging." And if gouges are sitting on the whole chain, then the probability of an accident increases 1000 times.
      And in Ukraine right now that is encouraged gouging and irresponsibility.
  25. Atomist
    Atomist 23 June 2016 09: 17
    0
    RBMK or VVER, what exactly is the difference, in any case, extremely complex mechanisms that must be operated very carefully with respect for technology. In Mercedes 76 gasoline is not poured. The Americans at one time were unlucky with the three-mile island, not miraculously.
  26. atamankko
    atamankko 23 June 2016 10: 24
    0
    All this from a lack of mind and a great desire to fill their pockets.
  27. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 June 2016 10: 25
    0
    Yes, everything is normal. NPP workers, if not fools, will chop this reactor at the slightest danger.
    And they are clearly not stupid, because their families live very close to the nuclear power plant.
    1. Riv
      Riv 23 June 2016 10: 44
      +1
      In Chernobyl, they were probably not quite stupid either. Where are they today?
  28. wow
    wow 23 June 2016 10: 43
    +1
    And the svidomye must believe that Westinghouse is vparivayet their "nuclear death" for free! ??? So no one will have time to escape ...
  29. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 June 2016 10: 49
    +2
    Two aspects, disturbing and enjoyable.
    Disturbing. If in Ukraine the assembly suitable for operation at Soviet reactors is rolled back, then the Americans will begin to push their fuel to other former Soviet nuclear power plants, and this is a tidbit of the market.
    Pleasant. Now the Kremlin supplies fuel for Ukrainian nuclear power plants free of charge, i.e. at our expense. If the Americans undertake this "noble" mission, it will only be easier for us. Although I am sure the residents of Chubais-Naebulins will find a way to compensate their owners for their costs, this is another song.
  30. Arkan
    Arkan 23 June 2016 11: 44
    +1
    Ukraine is gradually turning into a landfill and dump for radioactive waste and other hazardous technologies. The owners of all this open-endedness want to "have fun" and then surrender the lands of the given territory absolutely unsuitable for use, the state "this" can no longer be called, inhabited by adequate organisms, to Russia. Bismarck is not a prophet, he could be wrong, we live without them, Ukrainians, 25 years and do not grieve.
  31. TRV
    TRV 23 June 2016 11: 48
    0
    Recently, the number of accidents at nuclear power plants in Ukraine has sharply increased, and here it’s not far from trouble
  32. alexfin
    alexfin 23 June 2016 16: 19
    -1
    leash would not be trouble ...
  33. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 23 June 2016 16: 25
    0
    Good!)
    Piglet thinks differently!
    PS. http://www.pravda.ru/economics/rules/globalcooperation/07-03-2014/1197728-ukrain
    -0 /
  34. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 23 June 2016 16: 47
    -1
    Quote: Arkan
    Ukraine is gradually turning into a landfill and dump for radioactive waste and other hazardous technologies. The owners of all this open-endedness want to "have fun" and then surrender the lands of the given territory absolutely unsuitable for use, the state "this" can no longer be called, inhabited by adequate organisms, to Russia. Bismarck is not a prophet, he could be wrong, we live without them, Ukrainians, 25 years and do not grieve.

    Wrong approach! Us (formerly united people) are forced to THINK so! In post-Soviet times, enough bloody examples !!!
    "Elite" (a word they have invented for themselves) is a complete g *** o !!!
  35. Pitot
    Pitot 23 June 2016 18: 22
    0
    We here in Kamchatka fell a little when Fukushima sadanula. The background was measured live on the local channel. Kaka arrived, but within the normal range - that's what they told and showed us. The only thing that bothered - for some reason, switched to new units - siberts or something, I don’t want to climb on the Internet to look for the correct sound, sorry. But if something in kakyandi fucks, then in the course will be my mother do not worry. Only for this they need to be mowed down, dives. That damn thing is spinning on a shaky plaque above the pit with derm - they will fall, then it will fall on everyone standing nearby .... And the Americans will rub their hands and blame Russia. No matter what. The main thing is whom.
  36. VB
    VB 23 June 2016 20: 35
    0
    The main thing is that in an accident, the wind to the west blows harder ...
  37. gammipapa
    gammipapa 23 June 2016 21: 11
    0
    There is still no one is considering the option is quite apparently lying on the surface.

    And what prevents Americans from laying mines in these nuclear assemblies? Well, so that if you yourself do not get out of breath, then for sure you could arrange a hemorrhoid for Russia and others? It’s very convenient, the authorities in Ukraine will conceive once again to whisper to them and whisper in their ears from across the ocean. You’ll say we’ll drive a blizzard to blow up a couple of stations and tell the whole world that you’re muddlers yourself, it’s not anyone's fault. A very good control lever, the option is simply a win-win in all respects.
  38. Idiot
    Idiot 23 June 2016 21: 35
    0
    And what is the difference in the cost of our assemblies and American? No one knows?
    1. iouris
      iouris 23 June 2016 23: 11
      0
      They are not interchangeable, because the one who makes the reactor makes it for a specific fuel rod. The technologies are completely different.
  39. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 23 June 2016 22: 39
    -1
    Sorry for the baby footnotes ...
  40. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 June 2016 09: 45
    0
    They tried to secure and liquidate the previous Chernobyl by the entire Soviet Union, who will liquidate the next. After all, you will die, banderlog.
  41. erik cartman
    erik cartman 24 June 2016 12: 26
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    Let’s try the original solutions, than the child wouldn’t be amused just to cry.

    Ukraine is on the verge of 3 new Chernobyls. If it hits, then no one will seem a little. Why do these utyrkas need kickbacks for contracts? For treatment for radiation sickness. What about the rest of the Ukrainians? Well done, the people are being prepared for disposal in a peaceful way, and the territory is being cleared of "extra" population. I give a standing ovation, the plan is brilliant and outrageously simple. Yes, the National Guard and the Azov and Donbass regiments should be urgently sent to guard the nuclear power plants. Why torture the boys in the trenches, it will be more accurate near the nuclear power plant.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 25 June 2016 09: 30
      0
      Quote: erik cartman
      near a nuclear power plant it will be more accurate.


      And most importantly, these idiots will not produce offspring.
  42. BastaKarapuzik And
    BastaKarapuzik And 24 June 2016 14: 20
    0
    Correct me if I am mistaken, but American fuel is not only ... less suitable, but also more expensive than the original? Moreover, the American side, of course, does not bear obligations on the disposal of nuclear waste?

    And these are questions, if it doesn’t end in the second Chernobyl at all, but would not be desirable.

    For what, for the sake of reducing Ukraine’s fuel dependence on Russia? What about dependence on the United States?

    Moreover, the Ukraine-Russia relationship was mutual, which cannot be said about the states even in the long term ..
    Ukraine supplied part of its products to the Russian market, moreover, it was also a high-tech demanded product.

    Including ship power plants, the potential of this cooperation was quite high and could still grow.

    It's like - "for evil mom, I'll frostbite my ears."
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 25 June 2016 09: 35
      0
      Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
      It's like - "for evil mom, I'll frostbite my ears"


      Not at all like that. Just bought or hired Ukrainian politicians do their job. They drum Ukraine as a country, they are not going to live there. Do the work and leave like a rabbit for example
  43. Backfire
    Backfire 24 June 2016 16: 24
    -2
    Quote: denvar555
    The country of thieves and traitors to its people. Ready to sell everything and everyone just to fill their pockets. How then people will live they care little. American-made fuel assemblies in a Soviet reactor are the same as pouring gas into a diesel engine. At best, the car will break down, at worst ... it’s better not to even imagine! Chernobyl-2 is just around the corner!