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Lithuania intends to purchase Javelin anti-tank systems from the USA

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Lithuania continues to make all possible attempts to bring the level of spending by the Ministry of Defense to "NATO" 2%. In addition to restoring military conscription on an ongoing basis (the relevant document was signed by the President of the country Dalia Grybauskaite), the Lithuanian authorities allocate funds for the purchase of anti-tank complexes for the Lithuanian army. We are talking about complexes "Javelin", which, by the way, continue to dream in Ukraine.


Lithuania intends to purchase Javelin anti-tank systems from the USA


Information about the readiness to acquire American anti-tank complexes publishes news agency TASS:
To provide the army with medium-range anti-tank weapons in accordance with the amended intergovernmental agreement between our countries, signed in 2001 and updated in 2014, the Javelin missile systems will be additionally purchased in the United States.


According to the initial data, official Vilnius is allocated from the state budget for the purchase of American weapons about 8 million dollars. Considering the fact that the cost of one shot to complexes of this type is several tens of thousands of dollars, the Javelinov service to the Lithuanian taxpayer will result in a pretty penny. If in Lithuania, of course, these complexes are going to be exploited ...

It is not specified how much specifically anti-tank complexes Vilnius intends to purchase, and whether it will be new complexes, and not pretty second-hand.

An equally urgent question is whether the Javelins acquired by Lithuania will not be in the hands of Ukrainian security officials in the Donbas?
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  1. avvg
    avvg 22 June 2016 07: 05
    +2
    Do they have specialists in Lithuania, or will an American soldier be allocated to each complex?
    1. Comrade Schucher
      Comrade Schucher 22 June 2016 07: 23
      +8
      Quote: avvg
      Do they have specialists in the use of anti-tank weapons?

      It's not long to teach a song, but the toy is too expensive, one "bullet" costs 75 bucks ...
      Nobody will give for a freebie, but on their own ... they’ll be so ruined, European baubles.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 22 June 2016 07: 45
        0
        As if these "Jewels" from Lithuania to Ukraine did not migrate. Or is there no such fear?
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 22 June 2016 08: 19
          +2
          Quote: siberalt
          As if these "Jewels" from Lithuania to Ukraine did not migrate. Or is there no such fear?

          You do not read the news to the end?
        2. Darkmor
          Darkmor 22 June 2016 08: 20
          +3
          one "bullet" for 75 bucks pulls

          by 200
          75k is the internal price for the US Army, given preferences and subsidies.
          For comparison, the new BMP costs about 300k

          Therefore, I strongly doubt that these toys will first go to Ukraine, secondly they will go to the troops, and thirdly that they will be shot.
          If Ukraine had the money for such weapons and a disciplined army with honest officials, to ensure the supply and use of such weapons ... well, that would not be Ukraine.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 22 June 2016 11: 38
            0
            The funny thing is that the Kurds have been shining for some time. And obviously they were not buying them for 200 thousand. But Ukrainians only dream of them.
        3. Maxom75
          Maxom75 22 June 2016 08: 33
          0
          There will be militiamen outbid, a day later in Moscow they will unscrew them for bolts)) Georgians won the Hamers and our demolished them (military trophies). So apparently amers their bitter honey agaric does not teach anything))
      3. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 22 June 2016 09: 00
        +1
        Quote: Comrade Schucher
        Quote: avvg
        Do they have specialists in the use of anti-tank weapons?

        It's not long to teach a song, but the toy is too expensive, one "bullet" costs 75 bucks ...
        Nobody will give for a freebie, but on their own ... they’ll be so ruined, European baubles.

        Yes, and they are already going, not the first year. Everyone is going and going ... Apparently no way, they are not collecting from them ..? laughing
      4. Hon
        Hon 22 June 2016 10: 12
        +2
        Quote: Comrade SCHUKHER
        It's not long to teach a song, but the toy is too expensive, one "bullet" costs 75 bucks ...
        Nobody will give for a freebie, but on their own ... they’ll be so ruined, European baubles.

        one tank is several million dollars
      5. Forest
        Forest 22 June 2016 12: 44
        0
        Compared to a tank priced at 7, a million dollars is very cheap.
      6. the finish
        the finish 22 June 2016 13: 34
        0
        Shot 75 plus 200 complex.
    2. Mitek
      Mitek 22 June 2016 08: 28
      0
      Russia is being provoked to annex the Baltic states. The goal is to sever all ties with the EU firmly. On small, but proud people, as always, shit on everyone. Soon, and "missile defense" will begin to stick there, from the nuclear missiles of the Congo or the Papuses fighting for independence. I'm afraid then with the Baltic states will actually happen ... The uprising of the Russian-speaking population, for example.
    3. vic58
      vic58 22 June 2016 08: 29
      -2
      Yeah. chimpanzee american laughing Given the "advanced" of the Balts, you can ride the BT-3 hi
      LIGHT MEMORY OF THEIR DRIVERS !!!!
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 10: 37
      0
      Lithuania intends to purchase Javelin anti-tank systems from the USA

      And diapers.
    5. Shuttle
      Shuttle 22 June 2016 13: 58
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Do they have specialists in Lithuania, or will an American soldier be allocated to each complex?

      Yes, the Lithuanians and nafig do not need them. These "Spears" - "Javelins" will go through Lithuania to Donbass. And most likely to some Bantustan, and from there straight to ISIS. Or maybe immediately to them.
      Only one thing is not clear to me. Is it really that the Lithuanians really did not have any national self-identity, and just human dignity once they allow themselves to be used as a laundry and a drain hole for all kinds of junk?
      Yes, Javelin is a wonderful, wonderful rocket. Much better than Dragon. Powerful, accurate. But outdated. Whatever they say, even Fire & Forget with a 64x64 IR matrix is ​​not the same. At dawn, and especially at dusk, the efficiency of the IR seeker changes to approximately the "nothing" level. And this very F&F also means - shot? Forget your ammunition. After the shot, you can't do anything.
      Of course, you can carry a lot of argon cans with you. But this is not much "over 9000" either. An additional consumable for every 4 minutes of the battle. Or for 10 seconds, the shooter brakes before firing to cool the seeker.
      When the missile was being designed, there were no radar stations on the tanks that could detect incoming ammunition. And now there is. And maybe such a tank radar just shoot a heat trap. Why not? The cost of a heat trap is like a New Year's Eve, and the cost of a racket is two hundred thousand dead American presidents. Therefore, then this passive IR GOS was what we needed. For defense. For this "Spear" was designed. But the Americans themselves want to use it not in defense, but in the offensive. And not against old Soviet tanks, but against new ones. For example, those on which "Afghanit" stands.
      So the Pentagon logistics started to think - and where to put Javelins? Who needs them? So they found themselves "buyers", organized a ts. sales market.

      Just business, nothing personal.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 June 2016 07: 06
    +5
    will the Javelins acquired by Lithuania end up in the hands of the Ukrainian security officials in Donbass?

    This is how to give a drink! Ukrokakly sleep and see the javelas at home!
    Hands to beat both Lithuanians and Bandera! laughing
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 22 June 2016 07: 11
      +1
      An equally urgent question is whether the Javelins acquired by Lithuania will not be in the hands of Ukrainian security officials in the Donbas?

      and count on it. where did these rogues get that kind of money. bucket and highlighted
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 22 June 2016 08: 02
        +8
        Quote: Lukich
        and count on it. where did these rogues get that kind of money. bucket and highlighted

        And where does the rogue Bandera get that kind of money? Smells like a multichannel CIA, Javelins in transit through Lithuania end up in the Donbass. As in their time, through Pakistan, "Stingers" ended up with spirits in Afghanistan.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 22 June 2016 13: 55
          0
          Quote: vovanpain
          It smacks of a CIA multi-way, Javelins in transit through Lithuania find themselves in Donbass. As in their time, through Pakistan, "Stingers" ended up at the spirits in Afghanistan.

          maybe so. and maybe a provocation. Lithuanians want to show themselves cool
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 June 2016 07: 18
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      see the javelas at home!

      Well, give Javelin, well, at least one, well, at least without rockets. crying
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 22 June 2016 07: 23
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Well, give Javelin, well, at least one, well, at least without rockets.

        we will show his damned Muscovites and they will run away laughing
  3. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 22 June 2016 07: 09
    +3
    Buyers didn’t buy, but borrow for the rest of their lives, they also found buyers! the Americans are great in this regard, you have borrowed money, but you will buy from us and only what we say, they have all Europe and half the world in such bondage.
  4. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 June 2016 07: 13
    0
    The automobile bridge on the shoulder is this an anti-tank complex? And where are the tanks near Lithuania? Or, as always, the fight against delirium tremens. laughing
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 22 June 2016 07: 16
    +1
    We will wait for the opening of the line of the military trade "Lithuania-Ruina". And then the "APU-militia".
    Quote: avvg
    Do they have specialists in the use of anti-tank weapons?

    There will now be so many Americans to be based that they will somehow teach. Moreover, there will be a call on an ongoing basis, young people will be trained in the basics. Again, in the presence of the American contingent of natives there is absolutely no need to admit to complex equipment. Lithuania will purchase weapons, and the occupying forces will be the operators. Everyone will be calmer, there will be no need to beat the Papuans.
  6. Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 June 2016 07: 26
    +1
    Javelin is a good and necessary thing for Lithuania ... to suppress Baltic sprat ..
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 22 June 2016 07: 28
    +1
    That's blah blah. Shop on the couch. You won't have time to shoot, the Buryats will take away the matches so that they don't play around. Is that why no one will defeat us? And because we all "isms" - communisms - capitalisms have tried, and we go forward, that your Danko, only we will not pull out our heart, we need to be more rational. They defame us from impotence.
  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 June 2016 07: 36
    -1
    They mixed up in RPG-7, which way he is shooting, but then the victims will be for sure! They would first Aminazinchiku, or even Abramsy ...
  9. Hundred
    Hundred 22 June 2016 07: 41
    +1
    With such economic opportunities, the goods will be expensive. Not a cheap thing. Jewellinn, although the thing is good in good hands. Ottul money grandfather?
  10. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 22 June 2016 07: 44
    +1
    ... pretty used ...


    author, burn another!
    Does the author think that the Amersky soldiers even carry them to the toilet? )))) wassat
  11. edeligor
    edeligor 22 June 2016 07: 52
    0
    I am amazed at our American "partners". To sell weapons to the European aborigines for special operations for mad grandmother and all this under the sauce of "wild" Russians dreaming of enslaving and destroying the Sodomian crap. Well, if they are so afraid of us, they should know that the tanks are entering the territory preliminarily treated by artillery. What kind of javelins when there will be a lot of rubble from Vilnius? Lord Eurosodomites, learn military science in the real way, sometimes RPG-7 is much more effective than super-duper javelins.
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 22 June 2016 07: 54
    +1
    Why do they need anti-tank systems? Do they seriously believe that Russia is going to take them in tanks? Money down the drain.
    1. igordok
      igordok 22 June 2016 09: 06
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Why do they need anti-tank systems? Do they seriously believe that Russia is going to take them in tanks? Money down the drain.

      To scare Russia, to create the illusion of US concern about the security of Europe. Nothing more. Just a hybrid war.
    2. Skubudu
      Skubudu 22 June 2016 10: 48
      +5
      Syria has shown that modern ATGMs are changing the course of events not in favor of tankers unfortunately.
      There should not be a capricious mood about the Javelins Spikes - they say dear, etc. Almost all of Europe is armed with these ATGMs. I'm not talking about the TOU, who also do their job.
      Since our main ground forces are tanks, these tanks need protection from the Javelins, Spikes, and TOUs. We have so far only Afghanistan on the T-14, which is not a fact that it works, but how to protect thousands of T-72, T-80 and T-90?
      It should be so bought 1 tank and bought 1 KAZ to it.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 June 2016 16: 04
        +1
        Dynamic protection Contact 5 and KAZ Shtora - this is all that our army can counter modern ATGM.
  13. volodya
    volodya 22 June 2016 07: 56
    +1
    Well, they were ordered, they buy. Where will it go!
  14. vetor
    vetor 22 June 2016 07: 58
    +1
    Sales managers in quiet envy.
    Soon, sprats will also be imported from the USA. And what is also the right product.
    Indeed, no one perceives a serious threat as protection.
  15. dsm100
    dsm100 22 June 2016 08: 06
    +2
    Pampers must be bought, diapers ....
  16. geek2101
    geek2101 22 June 2016 08: 12
    0
    Lithuania intends to purchase Javelin anti-tank systems from the USA


    Yes Yes! Already as many as TWO.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 June 2016 08: 15
    0
    In my opinion, we have already discussed this topic recently. Yes, let them buy, just what they will do with them is a big question. And so help striped materially, a normal phenomenon. Well, maybe some kind of Abrams will be beaten up at the exercises, they’ll look in action, so to speak.
  18. Slon1978
    Slon1978 22 June 2016 08: 17
    +1
    8 million dollars, well, let's count :)) One launcher costs about 125 thousand dollars, one rocket 90-100 thousand dollars. In total, if the complexes are new, then we can assume the purchase of 20 launchers + 3 missiles for each launcher. The scale is about this. Sternly, you can’t say anything - even a grenade platoon.
  19. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 June 2016 08: 21
    0
    With a bare bottom, but to keep the "nose down the wind", you need to buy these trinkets ... what
  20. ARES623
    ARES623 22 June 2016 08: 26
    0
    Dahl will buy a space rocket from Obama. Nothing that has nowhere to start, just to please the main sponsor. Lithuania has long been building its budget policy based on foreign interests. That population is scattering across Europe ...
  21. BOB044
    BOB044 22 June 2016 08: 36
    0
    Lithuania intends to purchase Javelin anti-tank systems from the USA
    And against whose tanks they want to use them. If against the Russian, then while they awake aiming, Lithuania will no longer be. That's the problem. Porcines pancake. fool
  22. russmensch
    russmensch 22 June 2016 08: 47
    +2
    Well, for amers, the return on anti-Russian hysteria also went. Business, business and nothing but business.
  23. BOB044
    BOB044 22 June 2016 08: 53
    +1
    In addition to restoring military draft on an ongoing basis (the corresponding document was signed by President Dalia Grybauskaite)
    And the population has something to undergo the call on an ongoing basis, Dule Grebuskaite. They taught her at school schools of the USSR and remained so stupid.
  24. Professor
    Professor 22 June 2016 09: 09
    +4
    It is not specified how much specifically anti-tank complexes Vilnius intends to purchase, and whether it will be new complexes, and not pretty second-hand.

    How does this author imagine? Used one-time complexes? fool
    1. Eastern wind
      Eastern wind 22 June 2016 09: 23
      -2
      One-time say?

      Javelin Block 1

      Combat weight: 22,3 kg
      Maximum effective range: 2500 m
      Minimum effective range: 150 m when using the attack mode from above; 65 m when using straight attack mode
      Calculation: 1-3 people.
      Alert Time: Less than 30 with
      Recharge time: less than 20 with
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2016 09: 32
        +5
        Quote: East Wind
        One-time say?

        It is one-time. Only the M98A1 command-launch unit can be reapplied.


        A missile in a transport and launch container consists of a sealed transport and launch container of a cylindrical shape, a power supply and cooling unit, and the rocket itself is a one-time one.
        1. Eastern wind
          Eastern wind 22 June 2016 09: 52
          0
          That is, after a wild number of exercises and the use of these PBC in combat conditions, they are in perfect condition? And there is no slag written off, after checking which the flaw detector goes mad?
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 June 2016 10: 01
            +2
            Quote: East Wind
            That is, after a wild number of exercises and the use of these PBC in combat conditions, they are in perfect condition? And there is no slag written off, after checking which the flaw detector goes mad?

            It is very simple. There are 2 options: working and not working. Everything written off and defective is not working and the troops are not supplied. Everything that is delivered to the troops is in perfect condition. The price of the PBC M98A1 $ 126000 (2002). By the way, the PBC itself is very popular among the troops as a NVD. In warehouses it does not stale.
            1. Eastern wind
              Eastern wind 22 June 2016 11: 48
              0
              The subject of the dispute, given the corruption of the former Soviet republics and the practice of the West, which has long been using the countries of Eastern Europe as a septic tank for its equipment.
        2. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 22 June 2016 13: 02
          0
          Quote: Professor
          It is one-time. Only the M98A1 command-launch unit can be reapplied.

          If I am not mistaken, transport launch containers for MANPADS are also disposable.
  25. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 22 June 2016 09: 26
    0
    Let their sponsors offer their tactical diapers, they will certainly be in demand))
  26. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 June 2016 09: 33
    0
    Well, maybe put a few pieces as they say for testing. For a few pieces it is thought that money will be found even to the detriment of oneself. But how much talk will be about the readiness to contain the Russian armored armada. Poor Baltic. Under the USSR, she skated like cheese in oil, and now she has begun to resemble a train bum surviving from handouts.
  27. fa2998
    fa2998 22 June 2016 10: 38
    0
    Quote: Darkmor
    by 200

    Divide 8 million by 200 thousand = 40 PU-not a lot! But how do you prepare the rifle operators? Just once to fire, and there is nothing more to disband the unit, there is nothing else to shoot! But, I think it's a pitchfork on the water, since Lithuania is switching to recruiting the army " on the call "- it is necessary to harvest the cereal fraction-sixteen, kerzachi and x \ b. There will not be enough money for more! laughing hi
  28. Pitot
    Pitot 22 June 2016 10: 47
    0
    Matches for children is not a toy ....
  29. wow
    wow 22 June 2016 11: 32
    0
    Do not forget to cut the flies on the javelins to the brave Labus, because when they (Javelins) are pushed into the Labus anal opening, it will be very painful ....
  30. koralvit
    koralvit 22 June 2016 11: 40
    0
    Strange question, at the end of the article, that's what they buy for this. Does Dalia Grybauskaite really hope to stop Russian tanks with "javelins", but no, of course, he just wants to help his friend Potroshenko. The United States will not sell him directly. They are afraid.
  31. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 22 June 2016 11: 45
    +1
    The Javelins and Spikes are a serious threat to our tanks ... We need real protection from them, and not neighing, will Lithuania have enough money for them or not ... Not enough NATO ki will give them that ... I think it’s a viable solution where KAZ of the tank shoots shrapnel towards the approaching projectile ... Here, the projectile damage is very high and the infantry located next to the tank will not be affected by this shrapnel ...
    Well, the handicraft option is to cook on top and around the tank dynamic protection from a metal tape or corner to cover everything with a camouflage net "Cape" or do it yourself according to the principle of the "Leshy" suit ... This will help hide the tank from the IR homing heads of these complexes, and the grid will destroy or weaken the effect of the cumulative jet of these ammunition ...
  32. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 22 June 2016 12: 29
    +1
    And we still won't make a domestic version, for a long time there was information about the Autonomy ATGM, a competitor to Javelin, but it never went beyond rumors.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 June 2016 16: 09
      0
      Wow, we are already losing ground in modern anti-tank systems - especially air-based ones.
  33. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 22 June 2016 17: 27
    0
    Fuck a goat button accordion.
  34. matros-lom
    matros-lom 23 June 2016 16: 39
    0
    Lithuania, like Ukraine, believes that if they only buy Javelin complexes, then all their problems will be solved immediately: they will be respected in the world, and people will immediately regain confidence in the government, and the economy will recover, and most importantly, Russia will begin to fear them.