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Today, Russia is Satan (Parlamentnilisty.cz, Czech Republic)

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Today, Russia is Satan (Parlamentnilisty.cz, Czech Republic)


Today they want from us to close our eyes to the baseness of one powerful world and spit at another. This is evidenced by the writer and historian Vlastimil Vondrushka, reflecting on what attitude to Russia is being imposed on us. In his article, he reminds us that we once bowed before the symbols of the Habsburgs, and then the Soviet Union. Now they are demanding that we face the flag of Germany masked with the blue flag with 12 stars.

The main topic today is not only the issue of refugees. Also today they are discussing hysterically about Russia. I promised that in my notes I would try to enter the role of the devil's advocate. His duty was to object regardless of whether he believes his opponents or not. And they had to reliably refute these arguments in order to substantiate their position. After all, the truth is extremely useful to back up with logical arguments and facts. It’s logical not to talk about Russia today, but, frankly speaking, what is Brussels logical to reason at all about?

Russia was proclaimed Satan, and the one who refuses to spit into it is a heretic who must be crucified. The political rationale for this idea is known to everyone, and who does not know, that Putin agent. I’m definitely not a Putin’s agent, and I don’t want to spend the rest of my life in bondage with Russia. But I also would not want to spend the rest of my life in slavery in Brussels, the United States or the United Arab Emirates. As a child, I could not bear the jerks who were breaking the kulichik of others. And this feeling comes to me when I follow the modern politics of demonic aggression.

No one will ever know how it was in Ukraine and in the Crimea in fact, and what behind-the-scenes goals were pursued. As I have already said, I am only the devil's advocate, and he does not express opinions, but merely cites facts and raises questions.

Russia's strength can only be undermined by its separation from Ukraine

Where to start? Best of all, with quotes: “The strength of Russia can only be undermined by its separation from Ukraine. Ukraine needs not only to separate, but also set up against Russia, divide the people into two parts, and then just watch how a brother kills a brother. Therefore, we must find and cultivate traitors from among the Ukrainian nationalist elite and with their help change the situation to such an extent that Ukrainians hate everything Russian. Everything else is just a matter of time. ” Do you guess who formulated this political concept? In the second half of the 19th century, the Prussian “iron chancellor” Otto von Bismarck did this.

The policy of the onslaught to the east (Drang nach Osten) was conducted by the German rulers from time immemorial. In the Middle Ages, in the name of the spread of Christianity, their troops were looted and killed, because this is how faith is imposed on those who want to avoid this blessing. The order of German knights appeared at the end of the XII century to fight the infidels in defense of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. However, after a series of failures, the order moved to Prussia (today - northern Poland) and there for many centuries pursued an aggressive policy towards Poland and its eastern neighbors. And although subsequently the Grand Master, together with the entire Order, turned into Protestantism, for the rest nothing has changed: the pro-German policy was carried out as before.

The Germans jealously ensured that in the East they did not have a strong opponent

The German rulers maintained lively diplomatic ties with Russia, but they zealously ensured that they did not have a strong enemy in the East. And they constantly sought to increase their influence. Peter the Great was really pissed off at having conquered Sweden’s access to the Baltic Sea, began to build a strong fleet and develop foreign trade (to the detriment of the German Hansa).

It was possible to stop this process approximately in the middle of the 18 century, when the kings who came from influential German noble families (Catherine the Great belonged to them) began to ascend to the Russian throne. Since then, Prussian and Russian politics have walked hand in hand and have wrinkled the foreheads of the rest of Central Europe, as well as damage in population and property.

In 1757-1762, thanks to the kinship of the Russian tsars with the German rulers, the Russian army took part in the Seven Years War (now on the side of Prussia, then against it), and in 1772, Russia agreed with Poland on the partition of Prussia. During the Napoleonic wars, the Russian army marched across Europe as a Prussian and Austrian ally.

However, then something went wrong, and two world wars took place in the 20th century. Germany and Russia have become irreconcilable enemies. If someone believes that these facts are wrong, let him in search of truth tell you what kind of war there was, or in which of them the Germans fought not to take possession of the territories of their eastern neighbors, but to do so with the pleasing light of civilization.

Close your eyes to the baseness of one powerful world and spit into another

Russians and Germans have been strangling each other for a long time, and, by the way, in stories Powers have always done so. They do it today. And from us they want us, as allies, to turn a blind eye to the baseness of one of our strong neighbors and spit at another powerful neighbor. In the same way, we once worshiped the symbols of the Habsburgs, and then the Soviet Union. Now they are demanding that we face the flag of Germany, masked by the blue flag with 12 stars, which symbolize the unity and democracy of the European Union (although the stronger one can “recoup” the weaker).

European deputies want to extend sanctions, and German exert pressure: Russia must be included in the list of threats. The onslaught to the East continues - of course, with the support of the United States, who cannot forgive Russia for not wanting to bow to them, unlike most other countries.

The story goes in a circle. In the 19th century, for us, loyal subjects of the house of the Habsburgs, Prussia was the enemy. Our enemy, when we were the sons of Masaryk’s father, was Nazi Germany. The enemy of the population of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia was Bolshevik Russia. Our enemy, when we were part of a strong alliance of the socialist camp, was revanchist West Germany (and the northern GDR was “good,” although it was there that the heart of the former Prussia was located). The enemy of the faithful Europeans is Putin Russia. Do you think that on this wheel of history will stop moving?

Electoral justice is the greatest hypocrisy of modern political elites.

In the recent past, Germany occupied us, and then Russia. Both of these powers killed the loyal Czechs, the Moravians and the Silesians. However, I have a feeling that the Germans killed many more representatives of these peoples than the Russians. We recently theatrically forgave the Germans. As stated by the Minister of Culture, you need to forgive. But someone - yes, but someone - no. Electoral justice, however, is the greatest hypocrisy of modern political elites.

I am only the devil's advocate. I do not lean towards one side or the other, but my words will come true! In my opinion, there is nothing more stupid than constantly deepening the trenches of hatred, reinforced by sanctions, petitions, information war and slander. A politician who cannot, or because of his blindness and stupidity, does not want to negotiate with a neighbor, should not be in power.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 22 June 2016 18: 49
    +59
    "try to get into the role of devil's advocate."

    It seems to me that the author, instead of the "devil's advocate", has turned into a defender of the truth. Although the author is bashfully substituting for the opposing sides, instead of Germany it would be necessary to put another country acting with the same methods.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 22 June 2016 18: 54
      +13
      The fate of all the small states, they will be swallowed up by a stronger neighbor. History does not tolerate neglect.
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 June 2016 19: 16
        +23
        There are sane people, but their voices are scored by false propaganda and corrupt politicians.
        1. Pancho
          Pancho 22 June 2016 23: 15
          +38
          What are you talking about ?! This seriously claims that it was we who "killed the loyal Czechs, Moravans and Silesians. However, I have a feeling that the Germans killed many more representatives of these peoples than the Russians." Here, and the fact that the military potential of Nazi Germany was forged by the Czechs with the Slovaks by a third he forgot to mention. That is, every third of our victims on their conscience. Comrade Stalin had one drawback - he was very kind to those who did not deserve it. For me, the Czechs with the Slovaks and other German allies, as well as the Germans themselves should have suffered (after having reimbursed the material damage) the punishment they deserve.
          1. haron
            haron 23 June 2016 07: 49
            +3
            Quote: Pancho
            Well, and the fact that the military potential of Nazi Germany was forged a third by Czechs with Slovaks, he forgot to mention.

            About the "third" of course you need to give a link.
            In the Wehrmacht, PPSh and SVT were very fond of, so what? Crucify the sword and simonov and level Tula with the ground?
            Once captured, a Soviet soldier built and worked for the German - all those captured in the furnace?

            somewhere I already heard it.
            Quote: Pancho
            Comrade Stalin had one drawback - he was very kind to those who did not deserve it

            Stalin was adequate, and you ... yourself are in the know.
            1. A.Lex
              A.Lex 23 June 2016 20: 10
              +14
              PPSh, SVT, artillery systems, T-34, KV, "Maxims" ... the list goes on and on. Dear, you are twisting. The fact that Czech PLANTS (the same "Skoda" and "Tatra") worked regularly for the good of Germany. And tell me - what factories of the Soviet Union (and most importantly - WORKERS) supplied the German Wehrmacht?
              AND? No! And the equipment and weapons TAKEN (and not supplied) as a result of the invasion of my country are trophies. So that you are either an amateur or specifically provoke interlocutors.
              1. haron
                haron 24 June 2016 07: 36
                +1
                Quote: A.Lex
                But tell me - which factories of the Soviet Union (and most importantly - WORKERS) supplied the German Wehrmacht?
                I won’t tell about the plant, because they regularly collapsed during the retreat of the Soviet army. Although partially used as a repair base.
                I want to remind you that products grown in the occupied territories, coal, forest, etc. everything went to the service of the Wehrmacht and the SS troops, together with their Jugend.

                The Czechs, having sabotaged production, were subject to destruction, and as a nation could simply cease to exist - they do not have 1/6 of the land to be draped to shortness of breath. But nevertheless, sometimes they sabotaged, in a quiet place, in Czech with rottenness.
                I recommend to study the facts about the complaints of the Wehrmacht on the quality of Czech weapons, the case of k98 that was transferred to Israel after the war and how they swore trying to hit the target from 50 meters is especially interesting.
                Quote: A.Lex
                So that you are either an amateur or specifically provoke interlocutors.

                And I see the opposite. The interlocutor provokes the situation by pointing out that the Czechs should have been "deservedly punished" for what was happening in their country at the time of the occupation.
                Deservedly how? Relocate to Siberia? Or drive to forced labor camps? Then how are you Russian different from the Nazis?
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 June 2016 07: 50
                  +10
                  Quote: haron
                  The Czechs, having sabotaged production, were subject to destruction, and as a nation could simply cease to exist - they do not have 1/6 of the land to be draped to shortness of breath.

                  So every third Panzerwaffen driver was a Czech? In order not to die of boredom?
                  The loyalty of the grateful Czech people to the German invaders angered Britain so much that they had to abandon their saboteurs to destroy Heydrich ....
                  Quote: haron
                  Deservedly how? Relocate to Siberia? Or drive to forced labor camps? Then how are you Russian different from the Nazis?

                  See the answer in the first paragraph.
                  1. AllXVahhaB
                    AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 11: 54
                    +4
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    The loyalty of the grateful Czech people to the German invaders angered Britain so much that they had to abandon their saboteurs to destroy Heydrich ....

                    And this is not British Prime Minister Chamberlain, after the "Munich agreement", said that small peoples such as the Czechs have the right to sovereignty no more than "African savages" ???
                  2. haron
                    haron 24 June 2016 14: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    See the answer in the first paragraph.

                    For more than 40 years they compensated for the damage by participating in the flawed CMEA economy.
                    If you write that the Union gave the Czechs: schools, factories and steamboats, and generally brought the Czech Republic out of the backward Middle Ages into people, then the question will be how this backward country forged 1/3 of the Wehrmacht’s weapons?

                    Well, if you really want to understand what the Czechs could do, then, past Hasek, read the documents about the reasons for the entry of the VD troops into the Czech Republic in 68.
                2. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 11: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: haron
                  Then how are you Russian different from the Nazis?

                  Are you czech
                  1. haron
                    haron 24 June 2016 13: 57
                    -5
                    What does it mean to be a Czech? or Russian, or Ukrainian?
                    Does this change the angle?
                    I live in the Czech Republic.

                    In the phrase "... how will you be different from the Russian fascists?" I meant a person over whose nickname the Russian flag is hanging.
                    Well, since he has a desire to control the fate of an entire nation, I pointed out that his opinion belongs to the whole Russian people.
                3. Pancho
                  Pancho 25 June 2016 18: 07
                  +8
                  Quote: haron
                  Deservedly how? Relocate to Siberia? Or drive to forced labor camps? Then how are you Russian different from the Nazis?

                  Why do you clog Siberia? We differ from the Germans in that they left you alive.
                4. A.Lex
                  A.Lex 26 June 2016 12: 07
                  +8
                  Czechs, sabotaging production, were subject to destruction and how a nation could simply cease to exist

                  Exactly! That is, the Russians had to stand up for themselves and die in concentration camps and in slavery, and the Czechs for the sake of survival - fell under the Nazis. GOOD JUSTIFICATION !!!
                  Or maybe we shouldn’t have freed you at all? It was necessary, it was necessary to leave you alone with Hitler ... Go to your borders, and there let the gringes with arrogance puffed free you. We would see what they would do! The Ardennes alone would not have gotten away. All the way we are engaged in the salvation of all kinds of geyrops ... We must leave you to ourselves - eat each other yourself, the Yankees will help you.
              2. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 11: 50
                -1
                Quote: A.Lex
                (and most importantly - WORKERS)

                Can you give statistics on how many ostarbeiter's were taken to Germany or google yourself?
                1. A.Lex
                  A.Lex 26 June 2016 11: 51
                  +4
                  Were abducted forcibly or worked in the field voluntarily. This is aiding. Moreover, the biggest feat of even the Czechs, even the Dutch with the Danes, was a spit in the wake of the outgoing patrol.
            2. Pancho
              Pancho 23 June 2016 21: 36
              +2
              Quote: haron
              and you ... are in the know.

              Are you objective being a Czech?
              1. haron
                haron 24 June 2016 07: 38
                +2
                Quote: Pancho
                Are you objective being a Czech?

                That is, according to your logic, a Czech cannot adequately evaluate himself? wink
                1. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 12: 04
                  +4
                  Quote: haron
                  That is, according to your logic, a Czech cannot adequately evaluate himself?

                  Of course, maybe if he is at the level of Yaroslav Hasek! wink
                  Here you are (figuratively). talk about the Russians "who killed the faithful Czechs, Moravans and Silesians" ... What about the Czechs who killed the Russians? In my city of Yekaterinburg, the Czech corps under the leadership of Kolchak shot 25000 (!!!) citizens! To forget, to forgive, or to account for it? Despite the fact that now, at the Mikhailovsky cemetery, a memorial has been opened to the Czech wars who died in the Urals. The Czech consul took part in the opening. How should we treat this?
                  1. haron
                    haron 24 June 2016 13: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: AllXVahhaB
                    In my city of Yekaterinburg, the Czech corps under the leadership of Kolchak shot 25000 (!!!)

                    This is from the same series as the departure of the loot by trains DIRECTLY IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC, through the western territories wink .

                    Below is an official document regarding the executions in Yekaterinburg.

                    "... The disagreements between Kolchak and the Czechoslovakians, who did not want to take responsibility for the punitive measures of the whites, intensified. On November 13, 1919, the Czechoslovakians issued a memorandum:" Under the protection of the Czechoslovak bayonets, the local Russian military authorities allow themselves actions that will be horrified the whole civilized world. Burning out villages, beating up peaceful Russian citizens by hundreds, shooting without trial of representatives of democracy on a simple suspicion of political unreliability - is a common occurrence, and responsibility for everything before the court of the people of the whole world falls on us. Why are we, having military strength, did not oppose this lawlessness. Such our passivity is a direct consequence of the principle of our neutrality and non-interference in internal Russian affairs. We ourselves do not see any other way out of this situation than in immediate return home. "

                    The Czechoslovak command decided to withdraw the corps from Russia. In exchange for travel to Vladivostok, Czechoslovakians extradited Kolchak to the Soviet authorities.


                    They were not angels, but to blame everything on them is stupid.
                  2. Pancho
                    Pancho 25 June 2016 18: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: AllXVahhaB
                    How to relate to this?

                    I would take it down.
                2. Pancho
                  Pancho 25 June 2016 18: 05
                  +6
                  Quote: haron
                  That is, according to your logic, the Czech cannot adequately evaluate himself

                  Such as you cannot. Considering that the Civil War in Russia in 1918 began with the revolt of the Czech corps, and the disappearance of a large amount of Russian gold, which later miraculously flourished for the Legionnaire Bank. As well as direct aiding the Germans in all ways in the Second World War, then we had to take advantage of the situation in August 1968 and solve the Czech problem. PS "To dribble until short of breath on 1/6 of the land" - for such words and in the face it is not a pity, especially a representative of the people instantly raising his paws in front of the aggressor. As, for example, before the Germans in 1938, the Czech army was at least not weaker than the German, but the cowards were gone.
          2. goose
            goose 23 June 2016 16: 31
            0
            It’s for sure, if the Italians held Czech weapons in their hands, how many Russians could they kill? The main thing is who holds this weapon.
            Moreover, the German military-industrial complex rose sharply on US-English money, and it was more powerful than the Czech one.
          3. RUSS
            RUSS 23 June 2016 18: 23
            0
            Quote: Pancho
            and the fact that the military potential of Nazi Germany was forged by a third of the Czechs


            Czechs "forged" shitty steel

            The Panzer 38 tanks originally produced in the Czech Republic had relatively weak armor: the thickness of the armor plates on the front of the hull reached 25 mm, the side - 15, the stern - 12, the roof - 10, the bottoms - 8.

            After the invasion of the USSR, it quickly became clear that such millimeters were not enough, Czech armor the machine made its way through the BT-45 7 mm cannon at all battle distances. Only the best crew training and good observation devices that helped to detect the enemy earlier helped to get the winner of the Panzer 38 (t).
            Before the start of the Soviet company, Czech designers reinforced the frontal armor of the tank to 50 mm (side to 30 mm). This protection was received by part of the version D vehicles and all tanks of modification E, produced from November 1941 to May 1941.

            But such increased protection did not help the Panzer 38 (t) crews too much, fragile armor when shells hit it gave a lot of fragments from the back, which injured tankers.

            1. Pancho
              Pancho 25 June 2016 18: 14
              +1
              Quote: RUSS
              Czechs "forged" shitty steel

              Or maybe our gunsmiths are to blame for this?
          4. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 11: 44
            -1
            Quote: Pancho
            Well, the fact that the military potential of Nazi Germany was forged by a third of Czechs with Slovaks, he forgot to mention. That is, every third of our victims was on their conscience. Comrade Stalin had one drawback - he was very kind to those who did not deserve it. to me, the Czechs with Slovaks and other German allies, as well as the Germans themselves, had to suffer (after compensating for the material damage) a deserved punishment.

            But is it nothing that we guaranteed the sovereignty of the Czechs and were unable to secure it?
          5. Aleks.Antonov
            Aleks.Antonov 8 October 2016 08: 59
            0
            Well, why remember about Czech divisions in the Wehrmacht! Why remember the Czechoslovak industry working on the Wehrmacht of Germany. Why remember that Stalin treated Czechoslovakia very gently.
        2. WKS
          WKS 24 June 2016 09: 30
          +5
          A cursory glance at the history of Russia of a representative of a people who never resisted foreigners. Czechoslovak cities are witnesses to this. The oldest buildings, which are several hundred years old, have been built entirely. These cities surrendered at the mercy of the victors, and even with gifts in addition. How can a frightened rabbit, whose mink is being trampled upon by everyone, teach a fox or a wolf, not to mention a bear or an eagle?
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      3. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 22 June 2016 21: 04
        +12
        If they talk about you, then you are popular and envy you. Something like this can be said about today's Russia. The West is furious that the Kremlin began to pursue an independent policy, so it arranged a hunt for our country. That's just Russia does not intend to bend, Putin clearly set the course and follows it!
        1. Pancho
          Pancho 22 June 2016 23: 17
          -5
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          That's just Russia does not intend to bend, Putin clearly set the course and follows it!

          And the lack of state symbols of Russia at the embassy in Kiev (I’m embarrassed to ask) is this not a deflection? If not, then what?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 22 June 2016 23: 47
            +11
            Quote: Pancho
            Quote: Denis Obukhov
            That's just Russia does not intend to bend, Putin clearly set the course and follows it!

            And the lack of state symbols of Russia at the embassy in Kiev (I’m embarrassed to ask) is this not a deflection? If not, then what?

            And what is Kiev now ... feel free to ask?
          2. Ria
            Ria 23 June 2016 15: 07
            +10
            What deflection? Provide these monkeys with a new copy of our banner so that they tear it and fill it with shit? The embassy is forced to be present in any country with which diplomatic relations have been established, it has its own specific functions. And there is no need to give the country's flag in that situation to shame. There are no law enforcement agencies in Kiev. There are just some shabby Selyaks and degenerates with thieves. Let your flags harness.
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 12: 07
              0
              Quote: Ria
              What deflection? Provide these monkeys with a new copy of our banner so that they tear it and fill it with shit? The embassy is forced to be present in any country with which diplomatic relations have been established, it has its own specific functions. And there is no need to give the country's flag in that situation to shame. There are no law enforcement agencies in Kiev. There are just some shabby Selyaks and degenerates with thieves. Let your flags harness.

              So maybe it is worth severing diplomatic relations with such a "country"?
          3. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 12: 06
            0
            Quote: Pancho
            And the lack of state symbols of Russia at the embassy in Kiev (I’m embarrassed to ask) is this not a deflection? If not, then what?

            But aren't they?
          4. Pancho
            Pancho 27 June 2016 20: 31
            0
            Quote: Pancho
            And the lack of state symbols of Russia at the embassy in Kiev (I’m embarrassed to ask) is this not a deflection? If not, then what?

            Guys, that they threw me cons, I wanted to ask: “For what?” For the fact that the characters are absent, so I didn’t take them off?
      4. Briz
        Briz 22 June 2016 22: 45
        0
        So then it is, but Qatar does not think that it ... can
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 June 2016 23: 23
        +1
        A politician who cannot or because of his blindness and stupidity does not want to agree with a neighbor should not be in power.

        Great closing phrase. Article "+"
    2. kytx
      kytx 22 June 2016 19: 06
      +20
      "It seems to me that the author has turned into a defender of the truth instead of" the devil's advocate "- IMHO everything is simpler. some civilians are well aware that the countries of Eastern Europe are a place through which "we go to war with the Germans". and it doesn't warm them at all :)
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 23 June 2016 07: 14
        +12
        How do we go with the Germans to fight each other? Remind me of at least one case in which Russia attacked Germany, or, in general, somebody in Europe. On the contrary, they all climbed up to us, starting from the Swedes and ending even with the Psheks, and they all had to be driven back. The last time with Hitler, in general, all of Europe came. Of course, they don’t remember this, but Russia is always bad for them.
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 23 June 2016 11: 47
          +1
          Well, the recoil of the wave still took place in the countries through which the Germans went to fight in Russia. It’s like the police mutuzit the demonstrators, they, in turn, the police, and the doors and windows of nearby shops, as well as nearby cars, become victims of "communication".
        2. kytx
          kytx 23 June 2016 13: 43
          +4
          to "Remind me at least one case when it was Russia attacked Germany, or indeed anyone in Europe"
          what you soared! :)
          firstly I just quoted
          secondly, they attacked, it happened, for example, Finns but for the cause
          thirdly, let them demonize Russia as much as it can fit the main thing to be respected and feared. already sick of the habits of "civilized Europe"
        3. Prometey
          Prometey 23 June 2016 17: 18
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          Remind me of at least one case when Russia attacked Germany.

          The seven year war of 1756-1763 True, Germany was not then, there was Prussia.
          Quote: Orionvit
          On the contrary, they all climbed to us, starting with the Swedes

          Is this about the Northern War? Well, Russia was the initiator of the war.
          Quote: Orionvit
          and ending even with pshekami

          Neighboring showdown, nothing more. Poles from the Russians got much more than Russians from the Poles.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 23 June 2016 21: 53
            +11
            Quote: Prometey
            The seven year war of 1756-1763 True, Germany was not then, it was Prussia. Is this about the Northern War? Well, Russia was the initiator of the war. Neighboring showdown, nothing more. Poles from the Russians got much more than Russians from the Poles.


            Oh, now I'll die of emotion ...! Remind me of the reasons for Russia's entry into the Seven Years War ?! And at the same time remind me whose lands Russia conquered in the Northern War ?! And about Poland, I generally keep quiet, about the "neighbor showdown" ...! It's very funny, "great pshekia from Mozha to Mozha", but Russia has divided it three times, apparently the time has come for the fourth time to divide this unfinished business!

            Learn the story!
    3. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2016 19: 08
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "try to get into the role of devil's advocate."

      It seems to me that the author, instead of the "devil's advocate", has turned into a defender of the truth. Although the author is bashfully substituting for the opposing sides, instead of Germany it would be necessary to put another country acting with the same methods.

      as he wrote, now all defenders of the truth, which do not correspond to the EU truth, are agents of Putin
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 June 2016 19: 50
        +3
        Quote: poquello
        all defenders of the truth that are not true EU are agents of Putin

        That is, a priori ... belay
        1. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 22 June 2016 22: 42
          +6
          "..all defenders of the truth that does not correspond to the EU truth are Putin's agents ..."
          Wo, damn it! And I, today, in my institution, pinched Putin's "agent" in the ass, didn’t get in trouble, because I introduced myself as Putin’s "agent" in time and offered to meet at a safe house to discuss EU problems ... recourse Agreed ...! tongue Lie down ... good discuss .. good .Sweden with Belgium is a glimpse ...
          1. PValery53
            PValery53 23 June 2016 12: 58
            +1
            Coitus fosters consensus in politics.
    4. dauria
      dauria 22 June 2016 19: 51
      +10
      It seems to me that the author, instead of the "devil's advocate", has turned into a defender of the truth.


      Now I will explain what he turned into ....

      The function of the “devil's advocate” was to collect all possible arguments that could interfere
      canonization or beatification of the righteous, which could take place only if the fortress of faith did not find arguments of sufficient importance to cancel the procedure.

      That is, his task is to attack the "saint", in this case Germany, since the author has chosen it as a target. And he and to Russia
      claims falls out.

      No, not a "devil's advocate", but wanted to become "arbiter"Yes, look down. Your intestines are thin, mister, you will lie, as always, either under the Germans or under us." Fair, "contagion ... Look for your own.
    5. Foresterer
      Foresterer 22 June 2016 21: 57
      +2
      A sober Central European man wrote. I can’t believe that such people will take up arms in order to go east. They even know from whom they will not even defend their land, but cleanse it in case of war.
      1. Temples
        Temples 22 June 2016 22: 24
        +2
        I can’t believe that such people will take up arms in order to go east.


        "The whole point is in the uniform, only in the uniform. Take the uniform from the military and there will not be a single person who would want to become a soldier."

        This is a quote from Remarque. Kotry Erich Maria.
        It seems to me the most correct description of a western officer.
        The very essence.
        Reflections of the German about his army.
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 23 June 2016 11: 49
        +1
        "I won't believe that such people will take up arms to go to the East."
        They will make hedges on the streets of their cities so that there is something to tie Cossack horses to.
    6. Maksus
      Maksus 23 June 2016 09: 58
      +5
      “The strength of Russia can only be undermined by its separation from Ukraine. Ukraine needs not only to be divided, but also to be turned against Russia, to divide the people into two parts, and then only watch how a brother kills a brother. Therefore, we must find and nurture traitors from among the Ukrainian nationalist elite and, with their help, change the situation to such an extent that Ukrainians hate everything Russian. Everything else is just a matter of time. ” Do you guess who formulated this political concept? In the second half of the 19th century, the Prussian “iron chancellor” Otto von Bismarck did this.


      Yes, Bismarck could not say such a thing, because in his time no one had heard of such a misunderstanding as Ukraine and Ukrainians. There were Little Russians and Little Russia. Everything else is nonsense.
    7. Ria
      Ria 23 June 2016 15: 01
      +1
      If the author had not hidden behind the screen of a "devil's advocate", then a couple of phrases like "the United States, which cannot forgive Russia, that it does not want to bow to them, unlike most other countries," and so on, what is said, he never succeeded would be published in any of the European newspapers. There is now such censorship that mom, do not cry! "Russia was declared Satan, and the one who refuses to spit on it is a heretic who must be crucified. The political rationale of this idea is known to everyone, and to whom it is not known, that Putin's agent "is an honest statement that would have made him a professional career.
    8. aba
      aba 23 June 2016 20: 04
      0
      the author, instead of the "devil's advocate", has become a defender of the truth.

      Proof by contradiction.
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 22 June 2016 18: 54
    +13
    Today Russia is Satan
    Russia's strength can only be undermined by its separation from Ukraine
    The Germans jealously ensured that in the East they did not have a strong opponent
    Electoral justice is the greatest hypocrisy of modern political elites.

    Since the time of Peter, they have not even bothered to change the slogans. Of course, we all want to get rid of! At the same time, not knowing how to master your goodness. We have always been for them the "Evil Empire and the Gendarme of Europe", but every time we ask ourselves the question - "Where are we going to bury such a cloud?"
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 22 June 2016 21: 46
      +3
      Gendarme of Europe? Do they even have gendarmes in Europe? And for what? Follow the order! The necessary service, without it it is impossible. And we, then, are the Gendarme of Europe. And what are the claims? Who considers gendarmes to be evil? Criminals. In general, they will not be determined in any way, miserable.
  3. Humpty
    Humpty 22 June 2016 18: 56
    +16
    Whose cow is mooing? Czech little angels, and here is their faith. This is the interior of their temple.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 22 June 2016 19: 13
      +2
      The interior is made of the remains of more than 40 thousand people. The city of Kutna Hora in the Czech Republic.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 22 June 2016 19: 33
        +24
        And also the irreconcilable Czech workers from the Škoda factories regularly riveted their weapons throughout the war, and in protest went to work in black shirts ... And so on throughout the war, until they got real DULY! And then "friends forever" ... It's not even a reed in the wind (at least sometimes it breaks), it's feather grass ...
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 23 June 2016 17: 22
          -2
          Quote: NDR-791
          And the irreconcilable Czech workers from the Škoda factories regularly riveted weapons throughout the war.

          And everyone wants to eat. And in the territories occupied by the Germans, Soviet people also worked on the land and in enterprises - who are they?
      2. Verdun
        Verdun 22 June 2016 20: 30
        +2
        Quote: Humpty
        Humpty Duck (2) SU Today, 19:13 ↑ New

        The interior is made of the remains of more than 40 thousand people. The city of Kutna Hora in the Czech Republic.

        Here are just the interior of Kostnitsa in Kutno-gora made from the remains of not dead, but dead people. The sight is rather creepy, but having nothing to do with the topic of the article and the concepts of good and evil. And for me, it’s all better than nailing yourself on the Red Square for the scrotum.
        1. Temples
          Temples 22 June 2016 22: 34
          +8
          For example, a paste can be made from leftover food.

          And in this case, the remains.

          Orthodox people bury.

          And the Satanists made decorations.
          Nailing his scrotum is one of the stages of Satanism and moronity.
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    1. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2016 19: 12
      -1
      Quote: raiart
      Satan - Sat-An - Holy He ...
      Interestingly censorship pass? :)

      You have not read church books.
      1. raiart
        raiart 22 June 2016 19: 15
        -1
        I read a lot, but no one has yet canceled the etymology.
      2. Nikolay Pankov
        Nikolay Pankov 22 June 2016 23: 16
        +1
        Church books appeared much later than the Language of the Gods, which the British "dubbed" Sanskrit.
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 22 June 2016 21: 53
      +4
      Actually, "Son of the Dawn" is what the Bible says. He was a beautiful angel. That is why he was proud. When he is presented as a bogeyman, this is nonsense. Therefore, many are still seduced - smart and handsome. But we must remember that the father of lies. Strongly reminiscent of America.
      1. Nikolay Pankov
        Nikolay Pankov 22 June 2016 23: 20
        0
        But in the era of the Bible, many completely positive words took on negative connotations. For example, such a good word in the past as "demon".
  5. Pitot
    Pitot 22 June 2016 19: 02
    +5
    By the way, is there a prayer house in the Czech Republic where everything around is made from the bones of 40 dead? And the church is not from the word bone? The cult of death? Former allies, who of us is still under Satan and the Satanist? Okay, we have a mausoleum, so he is alone. And recently. And you have this older garbage will be ...... For me, this is disgusting .... and unacceptable - to put the bones out and make them gesheft ..... neat .....
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 June 2016 19: 12
      +2
      Quote: Pitot
      Is there a prayer house in the Czech Republic where everything around is made of bones of 40 dead?

      In Europe, this is generally the case.
      1. Nikolay Pankov
        Nikolay Pankov 22 June 2016 23: 30
        +4
        In Russia too. Have you forgotten about burial places in temples and about bones in altars?
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 23 June 2016 14: 40
          0
          Quote: Nikolay Pankov
          In Russia too. Have you forgotten about burial places in temples and about bones in altars?

          Ossuarius (Latin ossuarium, from Latin os (genitive ossis) - “bone”) - a box, urn, well, place or building for storing skeletal remains. In Russian, there is a synonym for this word - bones.
  6. Olegater
    Olegater 22 June 2016 19: 06
    +16
    And what does the author (Czech) begin to moan about the revolt of only Germans and Russians? Why didn’t he touch upon a topic in which he would reveal that the arrogant Saxons are the cause of all wars between Russia and Germany? And in the course of these artificially provoked wars, he suffered from Czechoslovakia. And on account of that "In the recent past, we were occupied by Germany, and then Russia. Both of these powers killed loyal Czechs, Moravans and Silesians." here he is wrong. The Soviet Red Army liberated its territories from invaders, which included his beloved Czechs, Moravans, Silesians. And then it liberated Europe, since it was not 4 years, but 10 years that they had been fighting without the whole Euroreich. Well, what about the occupation, let them compare the modern gay European (and essentially fascist) and Soviet ones in which the population grew and the people developed. Yes, a lot of things can be said. Only nobody needs his Czech Republic, and no one will ask the government, as your neo-Fshists will say so. The President of the Czech Republic M. Zeman got a little puffed up and blown away, and that's all the attempts to be free and independent.
    1. Altona
      Altona 22 June 2016 20: 43
      +7
      Quote: Olegater
      And that the author (Czech) begins to moan about the badness of only the Germans and the Russians? Why did he not touch upon the topic in which he would reveal that the Naglo-Saxons are the cause of all wars between Russia and Germany? And in the course of these artificially provoked wars, CZECHOSLOVAKIA suffered. And on account of that "In the recent past, we were occupied by Germany, and then Russia. Both of these powers killed loyal Czechs, Moravans and Silesians."

      --------------------
      Something he somehow tactfully avoided the Poles of 1938, who with pleasure captured Silesia and killed the Silesians together with the Germans. And then Germans-Prussians were killed in 1945, driving them out of the lands that Churchill had cut to Poland in the west with the consent of Stalin.
  7. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 22 June 2016 19: 09
    +4
    I didn’t understand what this inconspicuous pan wanted to say, or how they are called there in the Czech Republic. but the impression was that the Czech comrades were not lawyers, but pipipax of the devil.
  8. kotvov
    kotvov 22 June 2016 19: 09
    +3
    As stated by the Minister of Culture, you need to forgive. But someone - yes, and someone - no,
    we do not demand prying from anyone, but we will not ask for forgiveness.
  9. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 22 June 2016 19: 11
    +2
    Author, are you alive there? So persistently call the enemy of the human race
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  11. vetor
    vetor 22 June 2016 19: 13
    +3
    Times Schweik passed apparently.
  12. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 22 June 2016 19: 14
    +5
    Quintessence of the entire article:
    A politician who cannot or because of his blindness and stupidity does not want to agree with a neighbor should not be in power.
    And there’s nothing to add.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 22 June 2016 19: 56
      +1
      Old anecdote:
      -That damn mustachioed, to what the country brought !!!
      -Are you talking about whom?
      -About Hitler, of course, but who did you think of, Comrade Investigator ???
      At the expense of blindness and stupidity - is this to whom? To Saakashvili or to Erdogan. They made their moves, and stupidity was their assistant. So who are you talking about?
  13. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 22 June 2016 19: 15
    +3
    Quite a sane unbiased view of things from the outside. It is a pity that this is rather an exception only confirming the rule - "Russia is to blame for everything." request
  14. qwert111
    qwert111 22 June 2016 19: 27
    +11
    "Now we are required to stand at attention in front of the German flag, disguised as a blue flag with 12 stars."

    You didn’t like the Habsburgs, you didn’t like the USSR, now you don’t like the European Union, so what do you want? You yourself built your bridge to the future, you just forgot that it is built from materials of the past.
  15. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 22 June 2016 19: 42
    +8
    I liked the article. Briefly, competently and informatively. It was with great pleasure that he delivered publications plus, in the hope that the author will not forget us in the future. hi
  16. NDR-791
    NDR-791 22 June 2016 19: 48
    +1
    Well, it seems the author has split up, kapets are all in minus. Do not be afraid, lads, you can’t deceive the truth!
  17. Wajra-3
    Wajra-3 22 June 2016 19: 56
    +4
    "... there is nothing more stupid than constantly deepening the trenches of hatred, reinforced by sanctions, petitions, information war and slander ..."

    In my opinion, this is the main idea of ​​the article. Who is there and what he did 200 years ago now makes no sense. Only historical memory, that would not be repeated in the future!
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 22 June 2016 20: 54
      +3
      Oh how! So after all, "now it doesn't make sense" or "only historical memory, so that it doesn't repeat itself"? You will decide. For one excludes the other.
  18. NordUral
    NordUral 22 June 2016 20: 48
    +1
    We Russians wanted a just peace for ourselves and for you. And our misfortune is that this world did not happen.
  19. andrew42
    andrew42 22 June 2016 20: 59
    +3
    The groans of this son of the Czech people, - the classic "Oh, wei .." Worse than the impudent run over by a German crusader, because it causes contempt and nothing more. To coexist with a neighboring state means being friends at the very least. Especially if it so happened that the neighboring people built a "House" for themselves more powerful, but united more forces. But no! We don’t want to get in touch with those, too. Offended at all. Everyone owes the Czechs! Each one is the blacksmith of his own misfortune.
  20. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 22 June 2016 21: 05
    +5
    The author does not want to sympathize with Germany and the United States? This is not at all European. The EU, on the other hand, was specially created so that everything would carry out the will of the owner in an organized manner and did not have to 'persuade' anyone separately.

    Who, then, will fight against Russia if the Czech Republic refuses? ... then Slovakia, Greece, Bulgaria, Hungary, Germany, Austria, France will refuse ... The United States and Great Britain will, perhaps, bear the burden of "their interests" ?? )))
  21. iouris
    iouris 22 June 2016 21: 06
    +4
    It turns out the role of Czechs in history is to work hard, drink beer after work and watch the Germans strangle Russians, and then vice versa. This is not the devil's advocate, but the devil who pretends to be a fallen angel. The Czech view of history is uninteresting. Let them continue to do what they did.
  22. Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 22 June 2016 21: 16
    +2
    The situation is interesting in that when we went to fraternization and kissed the west with our gums, then a small group of people ruined the economy, plundered the treasury, starved people, and profit from fratricidal war. There was a bacchanalia in the country, deliberately created for the profit of those who were in power. Now that this process is paused and turned into sleep in some ways, you need to understand that there is no need to turn to anyone face to back. A system of counterweights is laid down by nature (if you can call it that) for healthy development. The limitations are all set forth in the bible. Let the West slander and spit. We have our own way and there is nothing to look for ways to draw closer to it. This is all a whim and a provocation. In their world, we have neither the present nor the future. Those who do not think so and want to spread out for the west are traitors to Russia.
  23. akudr48
    akudr48 22 June 2016 21: 41
    +9
    Russians and Germans have been strangling each other for a long time, and, by the way, in the history of the state, this has always been the case. They do it today. And they want from us that we, as allies, turn a blind eye to the baseness of one of our strong neighbors and spit on another powerful neighbor.

    You can say a little thanks to the author for the truth, because the author seems to be telling the truth.
    But it’s better to look more specifically at how the Czechs behaved during the Second World War, especially when Germany attacked the USSR.

    The Czechs worked diligently, supplying German troops with tanks, guns, shells, engines, aircraft, etc. on a very large scale, were, in fact, accomplices of the aggressor.

    The Soviet Union did not seem to notice this participation, pushing against the mythical Czech partisans and proletarian internationalism of the Czech and Slovak peoples suffering from Hitler.

    In the year 2008, I was in Prague, and went to the former monument to the Russian soldier - the liberator. In a beautiful place, on the high bank of the Vltava River, instead of a monument, there is a crap place where a metronome knocks among the ruins, as if reminding all Czechs that the former Russian soldier, who used to be a liberator, is in fact an occupier deserving the curses of all Czechs.
    The Czech nation is free from the chimera of gratitude.

    And on the historical central square of Prague, between the buildings with 300 to 400 years of history, the concrete cube of the Ministry of Truth, something like the Voice of Free Europe, is now located under the control of the United States and the best German friends of the Czech Republic ...

    But the Czechs, as before, no matter how ignominuvouat, they are so difficult, so hard, so little room for maneuver, that yes, they will have to endure it further while drinking good Czech beer.
    1. haron
      haron 24 June 2016 07: 19
      0
      Quote: akudr48
      In the year 2008, I was in Prague, and went to the former monument to the Russian soldier - the liberator. In a beautiful place, on the high bank of the Vltava River, instead of a monument, there is a crap place where a metronome knocks among the ruins, as if reminding all Czechs that the former Russian soldier, who used to be a liberator, is in fact an occupier deserving the curses of all Czechs.
      The Czech nation is free from the chimera of gratitude.

      Lies! Congratulations to a citizen of a lie!

      There was a monument to Stalin. Demolished it in 58.
      A soldier’s monument stands at the Olshanskoye cemetery, and unlike those cemeteries that I see in Russia, it’s not filthy.
      Also under the clock on the town hall there are memorial tables with thanks to the Red Army and Marshal Konev. St. Koneva is in the center and not very small.
  24. tnk1969
    tnk1969 22 June 2016 21: 48
    +10
    I was recently with them in Prague. Business trip. At an industrial exhibition. I was looking for suppliers or equipment manufacturers. So that's it. In recent times, it was Czechoslovakia that supplied the entire range of such equipment to the CMEA countries. And now they are only redeeming what is made in Germany, Japan or the UK. And they all closed their factories. But more than 85 thousand people worked for them during the union of the USSR and Czechoslovakia. And they supplied their products to all the countries of the CMEA community and to other countries. It turns out that the Soviet "occupation" gave them the opportunity to work and live. And it's very good to live. Indeed, in those days the standard of living of Czechs and Slovaks was almost the best in the entire socialist camp. And now they were running after us so that we made an order for them. And they offered very big kickbacks. So much for the Liberal Democrats.
  25. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 22 June 2016 22: 08
    +6
    Unlike Germany (EU), the USSR did not take and divide, but gave and multiplied.
    So, the current limitrophies should not spit in our direction. Offended.
    And with a subsequent redistribution (and he will, no matter how current politicians are puffed up,
    trying to prove our peacefulness), we can punish. Painfully.
  26. neo1200
    neo1200 22 June 2016 22: 15
    +5
    A purely anti-Russian article
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 23 June 2016 09: 18
      +3
      Quote: neo1200
      A purely anti-Russian article

      Such articles are useful to read .... In order not to relax, as in the 90s! (Read to tell another ..)
  27. atamankko
    atamankko 22 June 2016 23: 39
    +4
    Everything seems to be correct in the article,
    and you read and disgusted at heart,
    "... and who are the judges ...".
  28. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 22 June 2016 23: 50
    +5
    Che, what a shyly modest lawyer b..t, or with a crappy memory. I forgot to mention that the "devilish" Russia killed a few "angels" from Moravia, Selsi and the Czech Republic after they came to Russia with a joyful whoop to kill Russians in 1912 with Napoleon, in 1914 with the Kaiser and in 1941 with Hitler. Shitty lawyer, however. repeat
  29. hirurg
    hirurg 22 June 2016 23: 50
    +3
    What words! Lawyer ... first, some killed, then others. Are you martyrs? And thanks to whom do you live? Remember the story poorly. And who does not remember the story runs the risk of repeating it.
    By the way, Russia has Satan (according to NATO classification)
  30. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 June 2016 05: 56
    +1
    If we continue to persecute Russia, then from "Satan" we can smoothly turn into liberators. We will have to expel demons from a number of mentally ill countries.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 23 June 2016 09: 24
      0
      Quote: dchegrinec
      If we continue to persecute Russia, then from "Satan" we can smoothly turn into liberators. We will have to expel demons from a number of mentally ill countries.

      Everything goes to this ... And the screech is for the whole world! We can do it, the only country on the planet .... (it’s without pathos, it’s expensive though this event costs us all the same ...) And what to do ? soldier
  31. Riv
    Riv 23 June 2016 07: 56
    0
    The author lied a little. Well, or not even slightly. :)

    The fact is that during the time of Peter the Great no such Germany existed. Until 1701, Berlin was the capital of Margrave (not even the kingdom, Karl!) And was a hole cleaner than Muhoska. Actually, just Peter did a lot in order to create a kingdom on the site of the elector. And actually Germany was formed in the 19th century.

    So do not blame the German in all Russian troubles. Especially Czech, whose homeland over the past 300 years, who only did not serve. The thing for the Czechs is through and through the usual.
  32. Engineer
    Engineer 23 June 2016 08: 16
    0
    Does the Czech Republic mean an immaculate angel? And then what horns stick out?
  33. t118an
    t118an 23 June 2016 09: 12
    0
    Satan is not Russia. Satan is what Russia has. Satan is such a thing for you that if you miss the targets of NATO and get into the Czech Republic, then a thousand years later, probably, the archaeologists will unearth the Czech Republic.
    Seven troubles - one answer. Satan, or Mace - is not very important.

    Who, then, will fight against Russia if the Czech Republic refuses? ... then Slovakia, Greece, Bulgaria, Hungary, Germany, Austria, France will refuse ... The United States and Great Britain will, perhaps, bear the burden of "their interests" ?? )))
  34. Khariton
    Khariton 23 June 2016 09: 56
    +3
    Here he is "the Satan of the fear of the west" ... After that they were terribly frightened of us! And then it started ...
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 12: 09
      0
      Quote: Chariton
      Here he is "the Satan of the fear of the west" ... After that they were terribly frightened of us! And then it started ...

      "Yes we are Scythians, yes Asians, with slanted and greedy eyes"))) wink
  35. wow
    wow 23 June 2016 10: 50
    +6
    My grandfather died during the liberation of Prague in May 1945. Prior to that, he went through the Finnish and Great Patriotic War without a single wound (starting from 22). After that, I am very careful about such manifestations of "understanding" on the part of them, my grandfather, who were saved.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 23 June 2016 11: 28
      0
      Quote: yo-mine
      My grandfather died during the liberation of Prague in May 1945. Prior to that, he went through the Finnish and Great Patriotic War without a single wound (starting from 22). After that, I am very careful about such manifestations of "understanding" on the part of them, my grandfather, who were saved.

      There are many of them in Russia now ... We all have to fix this time, finally ..! For the sake of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers .. soldier
      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 24 June 2016 12: 10
        0
        Quote: Chariton
        We all have to fix it, this time finally ..! For the sake of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ..

        I do not agree - for the sake of our children and grandchildren, first of all!
    2. valerei
      valerei 24 June 2016 10: 39
      +4
      My father went through the entire war as an artilleryman of the RGK and therefore, perhaps, survived, although he was wounded and twice left the encirclement on foot. However, my opinion is that the USSR only liberated itself. By the will of geography, the way to Berlin lay through the so-called liberated countries, which diligently worked for Hitler, and their workers were paid. There is not a single European country whose citizens did not fight against the USSR. But Poland is especially disgusting. This is who we really liberated, because the Nazis treated the Poles as Russians, i.e. worse than dogs. Every fourth Pole died! So what? Yes, for one saved Krakow, Poland should be grateful to the USSR forever! The ingratitude of the "saved" is hard to bear. We must stop repeating that we released them on purpose, because those who were conquered by Hitler are already tired of listening. And the post-war aid from the devastated USSR to these liberated people! They have eaten everything and do not remember anything and do not want to remember and will not remember. The USSR fed a third of the world, broke down and died, I don't want Russia to repeat this experience. However, who reads us from those in power? Nobody. Great Emperor Alexander III: "Russia has no friends. Even the best ally will easily betray her. Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy." Great words.
  36. Haloperidol
    Haloperidol 23 June 2016 12: 06
    +2
    Russia does not threaten the Czech Republic, it is the Czech Republic that threatens Russia by joining the anti-Russian NATO bloc and dancing to the tune of the United States and there may come a time when Russia will be forced to use weapons to defend its borders from the United States and its sixes, one of which the Czech Republic has turned into.
    1. VIK_1961
      VIK_1961 28 June 2016 17: 17
      +1
      Or am I confusing ??? Or maybe not a general of the Czech army, but now a faithful, faithful NATO member (the chief in him of something) said that (literally I don't remember) Russia should be inflicted "... a humanitarian nuclear strike." I don’t pull the words out of context, before them there were several more definitions of the strike being delivered, such as "preventive", etc. Judging by his photo (I'm talking about age), he started his service even under the Warsaw Pact, and now he is. Changes: "Honor of the officer", - earlier he hid behind us and barked at NATO. Yes, NATO will hand them over, they will not have time to chirp. Does the little bug bite more angrily? So they blame him first.
  37. Holsten
    Holsten 23 June 2016 15: 44
    +1
    You can, gentlemen, spend hours talking about the decisive role of Germany on the Eurasian continent. But tell me: who will remember that this country is under the occupation of "the beacon of freedom and democracy"?
  38. Naum
    Naum 23 June 2016 16: 30
    0
    Quote: Orionvit
    at least one case when it was Russia that attacked Germany, or, in general, somebody in Europe.

    In 1939-40 to Finland to "move" the border from Leningrad.
  39. Real stalinist
    Real stalinist 23 June 2016 17: 28
    +2
    In the recent past, Germany occupied us, and then Russia. Both of these powers killed faithful Czechs, Moravans and Silesians.
    Remind me, when did Russia manage to occupy the unfortunate Czech Republic, and even kill the "loyal Czechs"?
    Was it not from Prague in May 1945 that the desperate "Uvaga! Uvaga!" Was rushing when their SS men were rolling out their tanks on the cobblestones?
    1. haron
      haron 24 June 2016 14: 17
      -1
      Quote: Real Stalinist
      Remind me, when did Russia manage to occupy the unfortunate Czech Republic, and even kill the "loyal Czechs"?

      1968 year.
  40. synodontis
    synodontis 23 June 2016 20: 24
    0
    Let me remind you gentlemen 1) More than one Yaroslav Hasek served in the red army from the Czech Republic and Slovakia!

    2) The Second World War Ludwig Freedom gathered troops to fight against Hitler.
    By the end of the war, it was already a real army, by the way the majority in his army were Rusyns. The very Rusyns who live in the Carpathians. Some of them live in Western Ukraine
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  42. Slon_on
    Slon_on 24 June 2016 11: 07
    +5
    "In the recent past, we were occupied by Germany, and then Russia. Both of these powers killed loyal Czechs, Moravans and Silesians."

    Oh and ah. In 1914, who fired on Russia as part of Austria-Hungary? Well, let's remember in 1918-1920 how many Russian citizens were killed, brutally tortured, robbed by legionnaires from the Czechoslovak Corps, who actually "leaked" Kolchak, and there are questions about Russia's gold reserves. Who killed the citizens of the USSR as part of the Slovak divisions on the Eastern Front? Who regularly riveted military equipment for the Wehrmacht throughout the war?
  43. Diviz
    Diviz 24 June 2016 15: 36
    0
    The USA did not give full compensation to Europe for what Russia gave. All they have achieved is power control in some European countries. England came out of the EU, so the EU will be in one place.
  44. Riieurakawa
    Riieurakawa 24 June 2016 17: 35
    +1
    The demonization of Russia reaches a fundamentally new level, it is like a new cow level in Diablo. Pharmaceutical employee Bayer, now living in New Zealand, a former professor at Cambridge (Britain), put exactly one thousand pounds in Australian dollars for Russia to strike a preemptive strike on NATO this year, and his old friend from Oxford put three thousand pounds on the fact that Russia, instead of starting WW3, will be forced to slaughter a thousand families of the world elite craving for a third world war elite (“acolytes of American exclusivity” - note by translators), a heated discussion of this bet takes place on Facebook, in private groups of professors of the Ivy League (union American elite institutions of higher education, with ivy growing on the walls, for example, Harvard). How about you, huh? It completely collapsed from the oak, in these English-speaking countries - absolutely everything, it seems to me - the more brains they have, the dumber they are, the easier they are to propaganda and they like to see what they want, and not what they really are, for example English-speaking It’s useless for users to prove that Crimea is the same part of Russia, the original part of the United States as Texas, they refuse to believe that most in Crimea wanted, wants and will want to be part of the Russian Federation, but at the mention of Texas they pluck out a lot of propaganda that feeds them The State Department, assuring that Russia will necessarily annex Texas and California, too, following Alaska and the Baltic, R. Heinlein very well wrote about them and their parasite value systems half a century ago in the story “You Are All Zombies (Ouroboros)”, but no one I realized that, as in the case of the Star Landing, according to which the film was shot - they took banter at face value, in the case of landing he was accused of fascism, although he just showed America of the future, where there are only military servicemen and wiping Some elites have the right to be called a citizen, have the right to elect and be elected, generally have the right, and all other cattle, it turns out to describe a militaristic steroid dystopia with a sense of teenage puppy delight and propaganda from the ears - they don’t understand this ...
  45. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 24 June 2016 20: 57
    0
    Another Czech nonsense.
  46. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 24 June 2016 21: 32
    0
    The time will come and not only the "lawyer", but everyone else will begin to confess their love for Russia.
  47. Old warrior
    Old warrior 25 June 2016 11: 07
    +1
    You yourself are infernal. Russia - the Virgin.