BDK "Ivan Gren" in Baltiysk

21 2016 June

Photos of a large landing ship Ivan Gren (pr. 11711) arrived at Baltiysk for passing the sea trials, built at Baltic Shipyard Yantar JSC, appeared in the network.

The ship was launched in May 2012 g, the contract for its construction was signed in April 2004.

According to the blog bmpd, “After 2010, the project has undergone numerous substantial adjustments, including in the direction of cheapening and simplification, including the abandonment of a significant part of the planned initial armament and radio-electronic means.”

Help: “Ivan Gren” contains 13 main tanks, 36 armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles or 300 paratroopers. It is possible to deliver to the destination a reinforced company of marine corps with standard equipment and land them on pontoons brought with them. For paratroopers there is a gym, cockpits, a dining room separate from the crew. ”

Photos used:: eto ya / forums.airbase.ru

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Siberian 21 June 2016 09: 01
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Good news!! The big ship has a great voyage. Hurry up.
1. Lord of the Sith 21 June 2016 10: 50
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  Quote: Siberian
  Good news!! The big ship has a great voyage. Hurry up.
  
  Yes, the story of putting into operation dragged on.
  The circuit is clickable.
  1. lelikas 21 June 2016 11: 44
    
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    Just as I see, the confused workers of Yantar walk around the empty quay wall and do not understand what they lack so much, something that is painfully dear and loved, with which they practically got used to it.
    But everything has to end sometime, and I am glad that such a reason for sarcasm as the construction of "Gren" has stopped.
    1. avt 21 June 2016 16: 11
      
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      Just as I see, the confused workers of Yantar walk around the empty quay wall and do not understand what they lack so much, something that is painfully dear and loved, with which they practically got used to it.
      
      Yes-ah-ah .... orphaned ,, Amber " They directly pulled out alive without anesthesia. Only news about Russian football is worse.
dsm100 21 June 2016 09: 02
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Good news. Seven feet under the keel.
1. Observer2014 21 June 2016 09: 35
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  BDK "Ivan Gren" in Baltiysk. Thank God, how much did it build ?!
  1. alexmach 21 June 2016 09: 56
    
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    Here they write that it is necessary to redo it. Are they lying?
    
    http://www.gazeta.ru/army/2016/06/21/8318369.shtml
    1. Genry 21 June 2016 10: 36
      
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      Just ignore such a "source of information" seen in numerous fakes.
inkass_98 21 June 2016 09: 02
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The large landing ship of the 11711 project “Peter Morgunov” will be the second and last ship in a series of four “paratroopers” planted at the Baltic shipyard “Yantar” in Kaliningrad. As the representative of the enterprise Sergey Mikheev told Izvestia, the customer made it clear that he did not need more ships of this class. The construction of new landing ships, if it begins, is not earlier than 2025 of the year.

http://izvestia.ru/news/618879?intref=relapinline
1. Dmitry 2246 21 June 2016 10: 55
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  Two BTGs are no small enough under the cover of aviation and ships.
2. proud 21 June 2016 22: 16
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  News is a nightmare!
Alexey-74 21 June 2016 09: 06
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Well, step by step we are building up the fleet.
rus-b4 21 June 2016 09: 08
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Quote: Siberian
Good news!! The big ship has a great voyage. Hurry up.

Quote: dsm100
Good news. Seven feet under the keel.

It seems that these are bots, before the news had time to appear, they had already unsubscribed with practically identical comments that did not carry anything
1. 79807420129 21 June 2016 09: 18
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  The good news
  
  Is that bad news, colleague?
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  The good news
  
  Why should a colleague slander forum users, let people rejoice, write your comments and express your opinion, what is the problem.
  1. rus-b4 21 June 2016 09: 54
    
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    The news is certainly good, but in the comments I would like to see a meaningful thoughtful opinion, and not a "first nah" " "etc., so that there is something to think about
2. Stirbjorn 21 June 2016 09: 23
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  Quote: rus-b4
  It seems that these are bots, before the news had time to appear, they had already unsubscribed with practically identical comments that did not carry anything
  
  treasured marshal’s wand, otherwise you won’t get fast
  1. 79807420129 21 June 2016 09: 31
    
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    treasured marshal’s wand, otherwise you won’t get fast
    
    Well, you’re a colleague, of course, will not let a rod be used so quickly. Look how generously all minuses stuck.
    1. Stirbjorn 21 June 2016 11: 36
      
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      Quote: 79807420129
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      treasured marshal’s wand, otherwise you won’t get fast
      
      Well, you’re a colleague, of course, will not let a rod be used so quickly. Look how generously all minuses stuck.
      
      I didn’t stick to anyone, but here you have, for provocation, my respect, sir
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        I didn’t stick to anyone, but here you have, for provocation, my respect, sir
        
        I apologize, in this case, keep a plus and you my respect, sir.
kolkulon 21 June 2016 09: 15
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And what was cut specifically on it?
Trevis 21 June 2016 09: 16
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Krasava BDK!
donavi49 21 June 2016 09: 18
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Well, there’s only a month of lagging behind the final dates for the start of testing (end of May). Zatyk was with the Ural State University on the newspaper B! (factory).
1. Volodin Dmitry 21 June 2016 14: 53
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  Yeah! UDMZ is still working ?! Did you finish the plant, or what? But once there was a Ural TurboMotor!
kirieeleyson 21 June 2016 09: 21
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Well, finally, then, they degenerated it unfinished.
It is unlikely that it will go into the series, and it is not necessary, they dragged it on with this project. Although superstition, it’s better not to continue.
Barakuda 21 June 2016 09: 21
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Here is such crap, it is on it. It looks convincing. "grad" in the sea version.
1. sub307 21 June 2016 09: 29
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  This "crap" probably not only "looks" convincing. For processing the "corridor" of disembarkation, a very effective "thing", one must think.
2. The comment was deleted.
GAndr 21 June 2016 09: 24
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Why does the ship have such a trim on the nose?
Visible to the naked eye.
mishastich 21 June 2016 09: 24
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And who can tell by helicopters on this ship?
1. sub307 21 June 2016 09: 32
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  Aviation group - 2 K-29 helicopters.
  1. mishastich 21 June 2016 11: 31
    
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    Not enough. Thank.
atamankko 21 June 2016 09: 26
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Russia managed without the Mistral, on its own
and this is with the "torn to shreds economy", I am proud of Russia.
gispanec 21 June 2016 09: 39
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It is certainly good that they finally started to test it, but they gave birth to a meter-born project ... there will be no series, but we already have almost no landing ships ... everything is on the verge of complete wear and tear .... how can you not remember about Sevastopol with Vladivostok (Mistral) ... would already be with the fleet ... one would certainly be a cruise for Syria .... I wonder what right now they are preparing a project for the Navy ... I mean BDK
avg-mgn 21 June 2016 09: 39
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Honestly, I didn’t like that the ship was badly disarmed.
1. Rriv 21 June 2016 10: 43
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  Instead of the AK-130, the Duet was installed. And they seem to have removed Grad-M
demiurg 21 June 2016 09: 48
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From time to time it seems that for those who are responsible for military shipbuilding, it is necessary to introduce flogging with gauntlets for failure to meet deadlines. Moreover, legally stipulated and public.
1. x.andvlad 21 June 2016 10: 21
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  It may not be so cruel to the "managers", but they need to be "fucked up" regularly, so that they can learn useful lessons from this.
  For competent people, such experience as long-term torment with these large landing ships and a fairly quick construction of the stern sections for "our" "Mistrals" should be enough to draw conclusions and start work in a normal way.
  The amphibious assault fleet is outdated. And the construction of new ones at such a pace will bring little to the fleet. Something needs to be changed.
shark 21 June 2016 10: 01
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Good news. Any ship we need and is important. Perhaps it will slightly reduce the load (I think the beyond) assigned to 775pr. But there are moments overshadowing this news. Namely.
1. Through numerous interventions in the initial project, we got almost a stock ship. And half of what was planned was not implemented.
2. There is evidence that there are some problems with the propulsion system (not confirmed, at least I did not find official data)
3. The main problem is the project itself. This is not a ship of the 21st century. This is the bar of the late 90s - early 14s. It is not bad. But while it was "mutilated" (you cannot call it any other way) it has become outdated. Well, it's not the case for XNUMX years to build a not-so-huge ship ..
Of the benefits, the main thing: our landing capabilities will slightly increase. I think that is not significant. But still.
1. donavi49 21 June 2016 10: 27
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  This is in the newspaper B! (factory Amber) wrote officially.
Incomprehensible 21 June 2016 10: 02
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Quote: rus-b4
Quote: Siberian
Good news!! The big ship has a great voyage. Hurry up.

Quote: dsm100
Good news. Seven feet under the keel.

It seems that these are bots, before the news had time to appear, they had already unsubscribed with practically identical comments that did not carry anything

Ahah .. And you yourself are not raked for the pluses with such a post? )
Your post is generally out of place here, but nevertheless you cleverly posted it. Pluses are provided to you.
Ros 56 21 June 2016 10: 10
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The oyropeoids screech again, like that, but we are afraid. And if you’re afraid of what you blather for Russia.
1. shark 21 June 2016 14: 13
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  Sorry. And what is there to be afraid of. You know, at the beginning of the 20th century, such ships were called an armed steamboat. An ordinary warship. Worthy for a maritime country of medium quality. But for the ocean fleet, it’s not significant ...
2. Ros 56 21 June 2016 16: 05
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  I didn’t understand what the minus was, or the oiropeoids felt sorry for someone, because they are not worth it. Judah is their last name.
  1. shark 22 June 2016 09: 05
    
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    Less for cap-making. One must really look at things. No one squeals from anything. And these agitation and chants-zadolbali
Marlen 21 June 2016 10: 16
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Who puts cons to everyone here? It seems the article is positive, comments too. Or is there half of the participants against updating the fleet?
1. Genry 21 June 2016 10: 49
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  Quote: Marlen
  Who puts cons to everyone here? It seems the article is positive, comments too. Or is there half of the participants against updating the fleet?
  
  Here more than half are socially concerned. They can’t live without pluses.
Genry 21 June 2016 10: 58
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Life and the war in Syria have shown that the Russian Navy urgently (very, very) needs ships such as commercial bulk carriers and container ships or simple self-propelled barges.
Alexander War 21 June 2016 11: 36
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BDK "Ivan Gren" (Project 11711), in principle, is not bad, but you need to say, as it were, the Universal Landing Ships
Alexander War 21 June 2016 11: 43
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Not bad at all. Help from the resource: "" Ivan Gren "accommodates 13 main tanks, 36 armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles In fact, it can transfer a Tank company or Battalion to an armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle
1. donavi49 21 June 2016 12: 37
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  As for the 36 armored personnel carrier / infantry fighting vehicle, it is interesting how they will stack them (it has only a small area between the superstructures on top). In general, 775 drags up to 20 pieces of equipment (with combined placement) and also 300 marines. And the old Tapir (for the replacement of which Gren was originally designed) - due to 2 cargo decks drags much more - up to 50 units in a combined version (that is, with the upper deck).
  
  For example, the BDK Saratov (he already had 50 in August) is transferring airborne forces.
  1. Alexander War 21 June 2016 13: 23
    
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    Will be inside
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      Inside there is not much more 775 cargo deck. Therefore, the question is still open.
      1. Alexander War 21 June 2016 14: 25
        
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        There is still space on the upper deck
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        Here, equipment can still be located on the upper deck
Haloperidol 21 June 2016 11: 53
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The main thing is that all these changes to the project do not degrade the characteristics of the ship to indecentness. Of course you need to save, but wisely. The fact that the ship is finally built is certainly pleasing.
lukewarm 21 June 2016 12: 43
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the project has undergone numerous significant adjustments, including in the direction of cost reduction and simplification, including the abandonment of a significant part of the planned initial weapons and electronic weapons

Afflicts. But better than nothing. What remains of the armament and REO there?
1. donavi49 21 June 2016 12: 46
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  1 DUET
  2 AK-630 on the rear hangar
  2 machine gun mounts against martyrs and pirates - MPTU
  No baffle plates under Grad can be seen, which means it was also reduced, although, like 2, the installations should have been in the nose.
  
  Все.
Alexander War 21 June 2016 13: 26
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That's how he was supposed to
Evil 55 21 June 2016 14: 43
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A good vessel and just in time .. VIVAT update the shock capabilities of the Russian Navy ..
Kibalchish 21 June 2016 16: 13
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Good ship for 1990's. For the second decade of 21, this is one big target.
Vadim237 21 June 2016 17: 30
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How many years they built it - just zvizdets.
proud 21 June 2016 22: 22
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"Ivan Gren" - really waited ?!
lukewarm 22 June 2016 09: 06
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Alas, did not wait. http://panzerbar.livejournal.com/3442616.html
Everything is not just bad, but extremely disgusting. There are tortured projects, the designer himself, I know. Everything goes through the job from the technical requirements, through the purchase of the wrong materials, marriage and crawls out on the tests. And so it is with us everywhere. Kill-kill industry. And suddenly, lo and behold, they rushed forward by leaps and bounds. This does not happen. Now the electromagnetic field is not that ... Damn, ships of fate come in. I do not envy the crew, with a kind of beginning.
1. lelikas 22 June 2016 15: 14
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  It seems to me that they will conduct external demagnetization and forward. He can’t stand another alteration.
MaxMelan 9 July 2016 15: 48
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And in the context there is no scheme with the option of landing?