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Russia is the birthplace of elephants Letters to the President

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Russia is the birthplace of elephants Letters to the PresidentMr. President, reading this letter, you will be delighted. Maybe even start applauding. The letter is remarkable, clever, completely accurate and very patriotic. The only pity is that we have nothing to do with it. This time we are just a pigeon: we bring you the words of others.


They were made by an American professor at an economic forum in St. Petersburg.
Lauren Grecham. Why did Russia get little benefit from the brilliant work of its scientists and engineers? Why does the gap between the states that reaped the fruits of the fourth industrial revolution and those who could not do it continues to grow?

The reality is that Russia is one of those countries that clearly could not reap the fruits of the fourth industrial revolution. Little Switzerland exports 3 – 4 more times more high-tech products every year than Russia. Why?

Russia has such talented creative scientists. Why with so many scientists Russia can not extract economic benefits from the results of their research?

There is a key difference between invention and innovation. Here you have invented something on the desktop or in the laboratory. There was nothing like this before. We congratulate you: if you could do it - you are an inventor! However, the innovator is quite another. Innovation means: take this invention and make it commercially successful. And successful not only for you, but also for the society where you implemented it.

The contradiction and strangeness is that Russians invent amazingly and are very bad at innovating.

Here are some examples. Russian scientists own two Nobel Prizes in the field of laser technology. But now there is not a single Russian company that would occupy any significant place in the market of laser products and technologies.

Light bulbs invented in Russia. In fact, Thomas Edison borrowed this idea from Yablochkov, a Russian scientist. But then American companies seized this market, and no Russian company competed with them.

Popov, a Russian scientist, broadcast information before Marconi. But today, Russia does not have any noticeable success in the international market of radio electronics.

Russia first launched an artificial satellite of the Earth. But today, Russia has less than 1% of the global telecommunications market.

Russia was the first to create with the hands of Sergei Lebedev an electronic digital computer in Europe. But who is buying Russian computers today?

Another example, he is little known. The oil industry in recent years has experienced a revolution in oil fracturing technology. But no one remembers that this process was invented by the Russians. I can show the scientific articles of the beginning of the 1950-'s, where they 100% justified the process of hydraulic fracturing of the oil reservoir. Nobody has done anything with this technology. I can go on and on this list.

An exceptionally important question: why are Russians so good at developing scientific technological ideas and so bad is it possible to extract economic benefits from them? The answer lies not in the absence of talent from Russian scientists and engineers, by no means. The answer is that in Russia it was not possible to build a society where the brilliant achievements of citizens would turn into the economic development of the country. All the leaders of Russia — from the times of tsarism to the present times — believed that the answer to the problems of modernization was technology itself. It was believed that the answer was in technology, and not in the socio-economic environment.

This misunderstanding was very clearly shown a few years ago, when I came to Russia with leading scientists from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

Many Russians asked: how can they equal MIT in developing the next big sensational scientific thing. But MIT scientists said that the key to the success of their institute is not just in the MIT culture, but in the US culture as a whole.

What are the cultural elements that allow ideas to turn into commercially successful enterprises? This is a democratic form of government. Free market, where investors need new technologies. Intellectual property protection, control of corruption and crime. The legal system, where the accused has a chance to defend himself and prove his innocence. This culture allows critical statements, allows for independence. It can fail, but try again. Here are some of the "intangible" characteristics of an innovative society.

But Russians, with whom we spoke, especially in institutes and universities, did not understand these moments. And they continued to ask specific questions: nanotechnology, information technology, three-dimensional printing. They asked what specific technology could be successful. Finally, the rector of MIT, tired of these questions, Mr. Rife turned to his Russian counterpart and said: “You need milk without a cow!”

At the moment, the leaders of Russia are trying to modernize, but, unfortunately, in line with their predecessors - kings and Soviet leaders. They are trying to separate technology from sociopolitical systems. They say they support Skolkovo, this ambitious and expensive clone of Silicon Valley. But at the same time (I must say this, I'm sorry) they prohibit demonstrations, they suppress political opponents and entrepreneurs who have enough power to challenge them. They distort the legal system for their own purposes. They sign laws that accuse Russians collaborating in scientific research with others. They support authoritarian regimes.

Such a policy can only lead to the emergence of a society where people pull their heads in the shoulders, fearing to be punished. Modernization means for them, unfortunately, the acquisition of new technologies in case of rejection of the economic and other principles that these technologies promote and bring to success. They need milk without a cow. And while this policy remains, the scientific genius of the Russian people, whom I respect so much, will remain economically unrealized.
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  1. Khariton
    Khariton 21 June 2016 12: 51
    +3
    Such a policy can only lead to the emergence of a society where people drag their heads into the shoulders for fear of being punished.

    Look to your west ... It’s all over there!
    They know how to send everyone ... And this is another question!
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 21 June 2016 13: 02
      +30
      If you (west) did not arrange wars for us, both hot and cold, then you would have to clone our Skolkovo for California, and not vice versa. And so we are forced to be constantly mobilized. Mobilized hierarchically, i.e. there is no freedom of action, always someone is looking after someone - and this interferes. Prevents exactly what you are talking about. Look at what Rosatom has achieved now (even a space apparatus on a nuclear reactor wants to do it), wait again and see the same exhaust in most of our, primordial and not only, spheres of activity. Well, no, you again roll the divisions to our borders, and then ask: "Why can't you do anything again?" And who else are the barbarians with their raids ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 June 2016 13: 29
        +24
        Something the article smells bad, no one argues with us enough problems, but if you hold a bugger parades and this will give innovation, I doubt it.
        1. avg
          avg 21 June 2016 13: 45
          +9
          Something smells bad

          In the beginning, the article is fragrant, in the middle it smells, and in conclusion it frankly stinks.
          Yes, and this American professor is cyka smart, and therefore doubly dangerous.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 21 June 2016 17: 11
            +8
            In the beginning, the article is fragrant, in the middle it smells, and in conclusion it frankly stinks. ,,
            I personally extracted the main thing from it_ and this is the main thing in that the tsarist officials responded to the proposals of innovations: if there isn’t in the West, then we don’t need to. And all this continues. I recall the words of the great economists Gaidar-Chubais: which we don’t produce ourselves, buy it in the west. I am honestly surprised by so many minuses of the article. of inventions, my mother doesn’t cry, but the implementations are below the baseboard.
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 21 June 2016 20: 16
              +8
              Quote: kotvov
              In the beginning, the article is fragrant, in the middle it smells, and in conclusion it frankly stinks. ,,
              I personally extracted the main thing from it_ and this is the main thing in that the tsarist officials responded to the proposals of innovations: if there isn’t in the West, then we don’t need to. And all this continues. I recall the words of the great economists Gaidar-Chubais: which we don’t produce ourselves, buy it in the west. I am honestly surprised by so many minuses of the article. of inventions, my mother doesn’t cry, but the implementations are below the baseboard.

              And you are a fine fellow, colleague, and you are absolutely right. The article is not "ice", but unfortunately raises a number of questions that are inherent in us. At least for the same SKOLKOV! Our guys, from one of the academic towns in Siberia (I won't say the name, the prosecutor's office is already "working" there), very clearly appreciated the work of SKOLKOVO and the red-haired talian in the development of budget funds for the development of nanotechnology. So "the guys (from 26 to 47 years old, the whole team)" very clearly proved, and so reasonably, that they began to be "strangled" by the entire administrative resource of the LADIES and others like that, that the very fact of SKOLKOVO is just a cut, and the most vile creature - LADIES ...
        2. poquello
          poquello 21 June 2016 14: 13
          +6
          Quote: cniza
          Something the article smells bad, no one argues with us enough problems, but if you hold a bugger parades and this will give innovation, I doubt it.

          to two interesting questions in the article, what is shitty with us about the commercial implementation of inventions and is, what is shitty with hi-tech, the conclusion of the reasons is completely wrong
          according to the first, the problem is bribery and Western partisanship, well, the period when the ministries dealt with commercial implementation issues, the second stupidly missed, well, they helped us to prosrait, everything will work out
        3. Berber
          Berber 21 June 2016 15: 27
          +7
          Why bend over. This is our bitter truth. Everything that works with us works only in the defense industry. In the civilian sphere (almost everywhere), only import.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 21 June 2016 23: 03
            0
            We were taught at school - for Soviet industry, the main output is Group A products (heavy industry), and only then (that is, by the residual principle) are Group B products (which are food and goods for the population). During perestroika, Group A was also virtually destroyed. So we have what we have. We compose something on imported spare parts, and release it in Singapore. The damned states have been working on this for a long time, now they poke us in the eye. I hate it.
        4. dauria
          dauria 21 June 2016 16: 21
          +3
          Something smells bad


          «You need milk without a cow!»

          No, gentlemen, Americans. We have a cow, yes you milk it (like all cows in the world)
        5. Lelek
          Lelek 21 June 2016 18: 00
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          Something smells bad


          This is not the first article by the author "smelly" (I would say more sharply: "stuffy goat"). Apparently in the stronghold of the "progressors" he sleeps and sees the thief and traitor of his Fatherland - Judas Iscariot Menachem Khodorkovsky. But this is his own affair, and the opus is for reading in the kitchen in the circle of like-minded liberals.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 21 June 2016 20: 40
            +3
            Quote: Lelek
            This is not the first article by the author "smelly" (I would say more sharply: "stuffy goat").

            So the author of the article, Minkin, made the sidekick of the characters you represented in the photo (I could not find another word).
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      3. Blondy
        Blondy 21 June 2016 13: 59
        +5
        Yes, there’s nothing to nod to the west, if the faces themselves are crooked. Well, imagine Steve Jobs with his introduction of Mac in Russia. Firstly, the problem of components - where would he be able to get them, and secondly - who would have cast the building in his neighborhood according to his drawings? For implementation, for example, I could give back even for $ 666 a piece. Well, I sold 6 pieces, well, even 50 from the second batch, but what would the guys who had come along to do it immediately then?
        1. poquello
          poquello 21 June 2016 14: 23
          0
          Quote: Blondy
          Yes, there’s nothing to nod to the west, if the faces themselves are crooked. Well, imagine Steve Jobs with his introduction of Mac in Russia. Firstly, the problem of components - where would he be able to get them, and secondly - who would have cast the building in his neighborhood according to his drawings? For implementation, for example, I could give back even for $ 666 a piece. Well, I sold 6 pieces, well, even 50 from the second batch, but what would the guys who had come along to do it immediately then?

          in how, but in Russia they implemented a yotafon, and found drawings and details
    2. poquello
      poquello 21 June 2016 13: 04
      +3
      Quote: Chariton
      Such a policy can only lead to the emergence of a society where people drag their heads into the shoulders for fear of being punished.

      Look to your west ... It’s all over there!
      They know how to send everyone ... And this is another question!

      the break in logic in this speech, of course, is softer, but it reminds me of the question "if you hit me on the head, will the laces be untied?" contract
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 June 2016 13: 04
      +16
      Alexander MINKIN

      Isn't it the same Alexander MINKIN, who was suing Pasha Mercedes Grachev in the 90s from Moskovsky Komsomolets?
      1. Riv
        Riv 21 June 2016 13: 23
        +18
        In some ways, he is undoubtedly right. Control and responsibility - this is what is lacking in Russia with any system. There was really a period under Joseph Vissarionovich, when for real shoals and punishment was real, but those days are long gone.
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 21 June 2016 13: 28
        0
        Disgusting little article .. Again, some fan of the "correct and free" Western world order is telling us how we should live.
        1. Neputin
          Neputin 21 June 2016 16: 26
          +8
          What is an abomination? That they told us the truth? I personally have 5 patents for inventions, but not one (not one, Karl!) Has ever reached the level of practical implementation. Because for its implementation it is necessary to spend 5 years of life (which is not very much left, taking into account the crossed out years from 1991 to 2008) and go through 7 circles of hell (and Rospotrebnadzor is only 1 circle), a million approvals, bribes, the need to grovel before any incompetent bureaucratic scum, etc.
          1. nekot
            nekot 21 June 2016 16: 39
            -1
            Quote: Neputin
            Because for its implementation it is necessary to spend 5 years of life (which already is not very much left, taking into account the crossed out years from 1991 to 2008)

            And who then (if the truth is in the article) prevented you in the 90s with the "crossed out" - then, in the opinion of the West, we had complete democracy and freedom?)))
          2. DMB_95
            DMB_95 21 June 2016 18: 58
            +4
            Quote: Neputin
            What is an abomination? That they told us the truth?

            True, rather clumsily converted to a well-defined political order, it is no longer true. And the abomination is that with the help of an ordinary problem with the implementation of inventions, politicized conclusions are drawn about Russia in general and about Russians in particular. Someone knows how to invent, and someone makes money from anything.
      3. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 21 June 2016 14: 06
        +7
        The one that is in "Matza's Ear" and in the corrupt "Matskovsky Komsomolist". Contra and enemy of the people.
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 21 June 2016 18: 04
        0
        Quote: 79807420129
        79807420129


        The same, but already matured in liberal opposition rhetoric. yes
    4. Sura
      Sura 21 June 2016 13: 44
      +7
      Well this is how cleverly connected nanotechnology and gameparades ... good fellow laughing
    5. Vend
      Vend 21 June 2016 13: 49
      +6
      Quote: Chariton
      Such a policy can only lead to the emergence of a society where people drag their heads into the shoulders for fear of being punished.

      Look to your west ... It’s all over there!
      They know how to send everyone ... And this is another question!

      I’ll add, with your permission.
      What are these cultural elements that allow ideas to turn into commercially successful enterprises? This is a democratic form of government.
      So we have it. And I note this is precisely a democratic form of government, and not exclusively edifying and predatory, as in the West.
      Protection of intellectual property, control over corruption and crime.
      Try to show on TV at least 10 seconds from the Mosfilm fund, Shakhnazarov 10 will remove the skins. Corruption and crime need not be controlled, as in the West, but to fight it.
      A legal system where the accused has a chance to justify himself and prove his innocence.
      We have more than enough of this. Vasiliev was released, Ukrainian terrorists were acquitted. Everything is like in the west.
      This culture allows criticism, allows independence.
      Read the statements of Makarevich, Akhedzhakova, Navalny and other clowns, no one puts them. They want to speak out, speak out, only people ask them, not the state. And in general, rudeness and lack of culture has nothing to do with independence. Yes, dear professor.
      1. poquello
        poquello 21 June 2016 14: 30
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Read the statements of Makarevich, Akhedzhakova, Navalny and other clowns, no one puts them. They want to speak out, speak out, only people ask them, not the state. And in general, rudeness and lack of culture has nothing to do with independence. Yes, dear professor.

        I understand that this is about Khodorkovsky and the Swamp, but I can’t comprehend the influence of these poorly punished and poorly dispersed phenomena on the success of commerce, because the grandees for investments do not roll
        1. Vend
          Vend 21 June 2016 15: 16
          +2
          Quote: poquello

          I understand that this is about Khodorkovsky and the Swamp, but I can’t comprehend the influence of these poorly punished and poorly dispersed phenomena on the success of commerce, because the grandees for investments do not roll

          Very likely. However, no one interfered on Bolotnaya until provocations began to create unrest. And Khodorkovsky now and then speaks out, they don’t shut his mouth, only who will elect him as president, as he dreams. Yes, not a single sane Russian. In general, the American professor was captured by false and harmful illusions.
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 21 June 2016 15: 08
      +9
      The Accounts Chamber conducted an inspection of Rusnano. The losses are colossal, and the average salary is 1,2 million rubles. per month. So Chubais already got its milk laughing The government insists on classifying the report in whole or in part. The same is with Skolkovo. The authorities are not interested in introducing innovations. It is better to cut the budget and buy abroad, then what we can do ourselves is better and cheaper. But then they will be left without "milk".
    7. Buffet
      Buffet 21 June 2016 15: 47
      +4
      And what is he wrong? I’m using a touch phone, the idea of ​​which was invented in the USSR and the operating system on it, the founder of which was originally from the USSR. But this was done not in Russia but in the USA and China. It’s just in the West that this is all good.
      1. Neputin
        Neputin 21 June 2016 16: 32
        +4
        Exactly. We can only be proud of the fact that we have invented both the other and the third. As in an anecdote about inventions. At the Priority Congress, the French declared priority for blowjob in 1600. The Russians objected: we still have Ivan the Terrible to the boyars: "I put you all in my mouth .... and I see right through all of you." And the latter applies to the Germans, otherwise they will now start talking about X-rays.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 21 June 2016 23: 27
          -1
          Quote: Neputin
          priority for blowjob in 1600.


          The joke is stupid, because ancient Etruscans declared priority on blowjob back in the 6th century - only BEFORE R.Kh., and in combination with a gangbang and BDSM - google Tomba della Fustigazione!
      2. nekot
        nekot 21 June 2016 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
        But this was done not in Russia but in the USA and China

        In more detail about human rights and democracy in China and their impact on the country's successes, please enlighten?
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 21 June 2016 22: 14
          +1
          Why is the text on inventions again everywhere seen human rights and democracy? These are just insignificant details of a truly true article: the point is that it is true to introduce inventions in Russia, however disruptive, it is extremely difficult not only and not so much because of the oakhead of officials. And the main reason is corruption as the backbone of domestic politics and the desire for conservation at any cost. The authorities are blocking innovation by all means, because they are depriving bread of officials whose main source of income is the sucking of the last of the poor. In this light, the author rightly says that to begin the successful implementation of inventions within Russia, it is necessary to change the system. Even you yourself agreed that our thoroughly corrupt vertical leads Russia to death, and quite consciously.
  2. Mercenary
    Mercenary 21 June 2016 12: 53
    +10
    We are such as we are and we would not want to reorganize ourselves under Western traders!
    I can blame only our bureaucrats, for whom, registering an invention is more difficult than flying to the moon.
  3. aksakal
    aksakal 21 June 2016 12: 53
    +28
    Sabzh - stupidity.
    Started for health, finished for peace. He began to illuminate correctly the old sore - the gap between the invention and commercialization of the product, and ended up with a general policy in line with liberoids. The PRC is not a democratic country at all, but it is quite susceptible to innovation, which once again proves that it is not a matter of democracy. The author - on the soap.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 21 June 2016 13: 16
      +10
      And this is done. A sound thought is taken and poison is wrapped in it. When they start talking about freedom, a free market, or corruption, it means they want you. When a politician speaks not about specific things or figures, but about corruption or democracy, it means that he has no ideas, and he just pours water and hangs noodles on his ears. Any politician woken up in the middle of the night will be able to make a speech about democracy, civil society, the fight against corruption or innovation. We noticed that the GDP is almost always responsible for the case with figures and specifics, and most other politicians are very fond of fighting corruption and freedom to sing? lol
      The exhaust from our science is good only in the military sphere. There we are quite up to the mark and what we lagged behind after the collapse of the USSR is rapidly catching up.
      By the way, about Russian computers. Our computers are in the federal nuclear centers of Rosatom. Only recently there was news about "done with us" - "Rosatom" supplied 117 supercomputers for the state defense order and industry. Quote.
      The State Atomic Energy Corporation (Rosatom) has delivered 117 supercomputers built on domestic components and software for the needs of the Russian state defense order and industry. This was stated by the head of Rosatom.

      “Today, we have fully developed a system where a supercomputer can also be made on domestic hardware, and, what’s key, on domestic software. We have already delivered them 117. This is much more than what was stipulated by the program when we adopted it, ”he said.

      Russian supercomputers, created on the basis of federal nuclear centers, are in demand not only within the framework of state defense orders, but also in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, at Roskosmos enterprises and the United Aircraft Corporation, as well as in the nuclear industry.
      And the difference in mentality. Anglo-Saxons are a nation of merchants and pirates. They immediately evaluate any thing or discovery - how it can be turned into money. We can’t do that yet. But we learn - what to do. request
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 21 June 2016 13: 50
        +6
        Quote: g1v2
        And the difference in mentality. Anglo-Saxons are a nation of merchants and pirates. They immediately evaluate any thing or discovery - how it can be turned into money. We can’t do that yet. But we learn - what to do.

        - the Anglo-Saxons have developed a layer of entrepreneurs that the Russians have never had. This is the so-called. innovators. The Russians had merchants, but they were not innovators - "we did not finish academies and we do not know what you are offering us!" And when they needed something innovative, they simply wrote out an engineer from America or Europe and paid him in huge rubles, although there were such in Russia itself (the same "Gloomy River" by Shishkov).
        An innovator is the same entrepreneur, but differs by a flair for a new one, relatively good education (to understand the principle of the new invention), ability to promote a new product, and risk appetite. He specializes in promoting a new product, as thereby reducing competitive pressure.
        Here is the answer - in Russia the degree of competition is insufficient. And while it will not be there will not be innovators, the same businessmen, who are tired of competition and have already begun to pay attention to innovation in order to enter the undeveloped market. Now there are no such people stupidly - you come to such an entrepreneur, you explain to him the essence of your invention for a long time, he looks at you with tin eyes, and in the end he clearly says that he doesn’t need it simply because he is nishty even without his invention everything is fine. That's all.
        As for the military theme, there is a state necessity, this is a completely different form of necessity. That is, the military understands that the strength of this army depends on innovations in military technology, history has shown that this is exactly the case. And therefore they implement it, although there are failures there too. The same dynamic armor was invented in the USSR, but was first used by the Israelis. Why? Yes, because in the USSR the general-tanker was salivating and yelling that "he won't let the whole tank be covered with explosives! Are you crazy?", And in Israel, surprisingly, a similar general turned out to be more educated and gave the go-ahead for the experiment. Although in the USSR, for such generals, the Academy of the General Staff was created, where this general was obliged to unlearn before receiving the rank of general. There is one more grain of truth in SABJ - there is no personal responsibility for erroneous decisions. Why didn't that general be held accountable for his mistake? Now there seems to be some progress - Putin is trying to introduce a system of personal responsibility. Journalists were attacked in Syria - Konashenkov received a reprimand. Launches from the Vostochny cosmodrome were delayed - Rogozin received a reprimand, and many directors of enterprises resigned altogether, especially the enterprise that was responsible for connecting the main cable at this cosmodrome. It is a pity for that director, the team is asking him to leave, but PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, nothing can be done about it. Then, in the military sphere, innovations will be introduced without failures.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 21 June 2016 16: 41
          +1
          As for innovators, in my opinion this is an illusion. The fact is, low-tech industries bring a lot more money. This is trade, mining and processing, software outsourcing, food processing, construction, etc. But all these areas in the West are either already divided or there is too much competition and it makes no sense for new players to go there. Therefore, it is necessary to create a more costly and less profitable high-tech production.
          Such production can become highly profitable in several cases. If you invent something new and create a new market, like Microsoft or Intel. Then you quickly receive closing patents that do not allow others to do the same as you. Then you become a monopolist and at the expense of this you fill your pockets, and then you close the market entry to competitors with pricing policy.
          The second option is the powerful support of the state. An example of the number of times is Silicon Valley in the United States. It was created by the state and the vast majority of money the first decades went to it from state budgets, including from the military. And then technologies developed for state money for the military became the basis of many civilian technologies on the basis of which the valley rose. Second. The same Mask definitely has access to nasa technologies developed at state expense and is already developing its own on the basis of these expensive technologies.
          So it’s not a matter of innovators, but of state support, closing patents and the inability to make money in already divided low-tech markets. And also in the ability of the Anglo-Saxons to see the benefits. In our country, it was precisely these profitable markets that were given to private owners in the 90s and there is no incentive to engage in any high-tech industry without state support. On a fig, is a businessman engaged in the production of complex equipment if trade or construction is much more profitable? request
      2. Neputin
        Neputin 21 June 2016 15: 53
        +5
        Why are you poking at us 117 super-duper computers for MO? Make at least 117 thousand not "super-duper", but analogs of 2-4 nuclear computers for the average user for 200-300 Baku, not 500-1000, as we are offered, and then "throw your caps into the air." So no. In many ways, the author of the article is wrong, but the whole world cannot always be wrong and at the same time be "covered in chocolate", and we are always right and in poop all the time. But there is also a rational grain. Maybe “something is wrong in the conservatory?” This “rational kernel” must be isolated and discussed, calmly and without emotion, and suggested ways to improve the situation.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 21 June 2016 16: 50
          +5
          Man, I’ll try to explain a simple thing to you. You are already tensed - watch the thought. A computer for 300 Baku is a sausage that was dreamed of in the USSR and for the sake of which SUCH AS you ruined the country. These are not the highest technologies, but even they bring profit only in case of market control. Russian computers and hardware can cost 300 bucks only if there is a ban on the import of foreign ones. It is a fact . A simple example. In the iPhone, the American is just a project - all the filling was made at factories in southeast Asia and then it costs a piece of bucks. If it were produced in the United States, then it would cost 2 pieces.
          And 117 supercomputers are extremely high technologies, the independence of strategic areas and the army from foreign countries, etc. Naturally, not every businessman will be able to buy such a computer, and you, sitting at the computer and whining, how everything is bad around, instead of making money, you won’t save up on it for your whole life. This infa definitely was not for you.
    2. andj61
      andj61 21 June 2016 13: 46
      +4
      Quote: aksakal
      Started for health, finished for peace. He began to illuminate correctly the old sore - the gap between the invention and commercialization of the product, and ended up with a general policy in line with liberoids. The PRC is not a democratic country at all, but it is quite susceptible to innovation, which once again proves that it is not a matter of democracy.

      good And this despite the fact that in China, in general, science is still poorly developed. It was the same in Japan when they bought patents all over the world. During the USSR, in the All-Union Patent Library, patents were divided according to the geographical principle - Europe, America, Asia and the rest of the world and ... Japan separately! However, most inventions were not made by the Japanese at all. At the same time, the Japanese themselves could not invent for a very long time. But they were rebuilt, specially raised - since childhood! - technical and scientific personnel - and everything has changed.
      So it’s not the economic system. There is no qualified technical and technological development strategy in the country, and all attempts to do something are noisy campaigns that experts only cause a grin. There’s the same Skolkovo and Rusnano which they are all worth! repeat
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 21 June 2016 13: 50
      +1
      Quote: aksakal
      The author - on the soap.

      ... which is on the loop.
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 21 June 2016 21: 06
      0
      Quote: aksakal
      Started for health, finished for peace. He began to illuminate correctly the old sore - the gap between the invention and commercialization of the product, and ended up generally liberoid politics

      So the meaning of aftar is supposedly liberoids will come and begin to commercialize technologies faster than an electric broom and everyone will be fine. But we are adults, it will be good for them, but not for us
  4. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 21 June 2016 12: 56
    +7
    It is noticed cleverly, ulceratively, correctly.
    But why did Napoleons and Hitlers attack Russia?
    Is it from the mind of a big European?
    Such all b ... advisers!
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 June 2016 12: 56
    +3
    The reality is that Russia is one of those countries that clearly could not reap the fruits of the fourth industrial revolution. Little Switzerland exports 3 – 4 more times more high-tech products every year than Russia. Why?
    I will quote from the movie "Midshipmen": swamp! all your damned Russia is a swamp in which any sensible thought drowns! (Chevalier De Brillies-M. Boyarsky)last but not least about people, the pockets and the army. and it should be: the army and the people. but, now, capitalism ... with all that it implies ...
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 21 June 2016 13: 14
      +2
      No, I understand copyright, all in a bundle. But the classic midshipmen !!! and block !!! Mosfilm what are you doing? it’s the culture of the country, it’s impossible with it.
  6. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 21 June 2016 12: 56
    +8
    .. "But at the same time (I have to say this, sorry) they prohibit demonstrations, they suppress political opponents and entrepreneurs who have accumulated enough power to challenge them. They twist the legal system for their own purposes. They sign laws, who blame the Russians for collaborating on scientific research with others. They support authoritarian regimes ... "
    That is, to hold a bugger parade in Moscow and everything will be fine with us. laughing
  7. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 21 June 2016 12: 57
    +4
    Much in Russia, first of all, happened and is happening with the development of technologies and their introduction into production from unwillingness. It is not interesting for businessmen to create powerful industries. They are better off trading and buying overseas items. Any business is done when it is done.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 21 June 2016 13: 16
      -4
      Quote: L.A. A.
      It is not interesting for businessmen to create powerful industries

      - Russia and China to unite in this sense laughing Russia is a laboratory and design bureau with pilot production in one bottle, China is already mass production of a new product. Well, why not? By virtue of their mentality, Russians (and not only almost everyone who lived on the territory of the USSR) do not really like routine work on the assembly line, but they simply adore experimental work with creative elements. He didn’t succeed today, but he’s satisfied, it’s already glowing like a copper piglet ...
      But the Chinese are not interested in this. This is unstable, unpredictable, big risks. They planted rice all their lives, work on the conveyor - almost the same. Let a small but guaranteed result, and at the same time he is not at all bored.
      The division is conditional, but indicative. Here rulers can have something to think about in terms of international cooperation.
  8. jjj
    jjj 21 June 2016 12: 58
    +14
    In fact, the article is a substitution of concepts. The author leads the reader to the internal conclusion that one can live well only with the device of the concepts of traders in society. Consumer society is the ideal being drawn. Do we need this?
    1. L. A. A.
      L. A. A. 21 June 2016 13: 02
      +5
      The author writes more about missed opportunities. Some Russians invented, while others Russians, who were supposed to introduce it, reacted with negligence.
  9. Verdun
    Verdun 21 June 2016 13: 01
    +2

    Russia has such talented creative scientists. Why with so many scientists Russia can not extract economic benefits from the results of their research?
    Politics influences this, but not in the same vein as I would like to introduce to the author of this text. Yes, political freedoms are important. But personal and economic freedoms are much more important. Psychological freedoms. This means that the financier who does not understand science and technology does not have to dominate people who understand these issues, and for the sake of someone’s career, talented people, who are often uninviting in nature, should not move in. In my opinion, the view of a man who worked during the USSR, then there were much more such freedoms. There were problems, too, but compared to what is happening now, these are not problems at all.
    1. tasha
      tasha 21 June 2016 17: 30
      +3
      This means that the financier who does not understand anything in science and technology should not dominate people


      I agree with you. But I will add. And in the same way, an official who does not understand anything in science and technology should not dominate people.
  10. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 21 June 2016 13: 02
    +5
    They are trying to separate technology from sociopolitical systems.

    This is the essence of the article, and it was necessary to start with this. In "party" China and caste India, technology is marching by leaps and bounds, maybe sociopolitics has nothing to do with it?
  11. iliya87
    iliya87 21 June 2016 13: 07
    +2
    The problem is that in these technologies for their development, etc. you need to invest and substantial profits will go in the future 5-10 and maybe 15 years. Small and medium-sized entrepreneurs who could put this or that technology in the right direction will not be allowed to do this. A large nafig do not need them they need instant profit. But this does not end there, we can make a computer, for example (already done), but the question is profitability, who will let us into the European market, and especially the USA, even if the indicators are identical due to taxes, our products will not be profitable there . There are only really new inventions of what others simply do not have. And here again, a complete bummer, no one is not going to develop these technologies and make profit from it. Why, it’s not clear
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 21 June 2016 13: 16
      +5
      Quote: iliya87
      Why, it’s not clear

      Because speculating and trading in air is more profitable, faster and less brains need to be strained ...
  12. sdc_alex
    sdc_alex 21 June 2016 13: 13
    +13
    Maybe I will be wrong, correct, but I believe that the problem is not the intimidation of society, but that our cultures have developed in different ways. Not a single Soviet scientist and inventor, as well as Popov and Yablochkov, set themselves the goal of extracting commercial profit from their inventions. This is especially true of the Soviet era. Well, there was no such need for society as enrichment, in contrast to the western, originally capitalist culture, where income, profit, enrichment were always in the first place. In the culture of Soviet society itself there were no such concepts, well, at least at the official level.
    All IMHO, do not kick much smile
    1. populist
      populist 21 June 2016 16: 50
      0
      sdc_alex
      ... I believe that the problem is not the intimidation of society, but that our cultures have developed in different ways. Not a single Soviet scientist and inventor, as well as Popov and Yablochkov, set themselves the goals of extracting commercial profit from their inventions ... Well, there was no such need for society as enrichment, in contrast to Western ...

      And in that too.
  13. chikenous59
    chikenous59 21 June 2016 13: 13
    +11
    I agree with the American professor only with the first part of the article, which contains fair and uncomfortable reproaches for us!

    The second part is a hackneyed record of Western politicians involved in politics.
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 21 June 2016 13: 27
      +2
      Well, it’s quite a standard practice for yourself: bring true (well-known) facts, draw the conclusions you need from these facts, and then the opponent will begin to doubt his own words.
  14. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 21 June 2016 13: 16
    +2
    It seems like the right words are said by the professor, but the subtext reads "Lie under America, do as we say, and everything will be OK." IMHO request
  15. newcomer
    newcomer 21 June 2016 13: 17
    +2
    another "instructive lesson" of the "civilizer" to the natives. complete nonsense and idiocy. all this in line with the statement of the NATO chief, the western jackals, the concentration of troops, a massive war in the media, and all this happiness is against us. I won’t be surprised if one fine morning there is news, in response to the provocation of NATO, our troops defeated their troops in the Baltic and eastern Europe.
  16. mark_rod
    mark_rod 21 June 2016 13: 19
    +2
    Nonsense! So mix the monkey with a gun - you need talent!
  17. Whowhy
    Whowhy 21 June 2016 13: 23
    +5
    Although I do not agree with the author in the assessment of the reasons, I put the article a plus, since the main idea, I believe, is correct - the main thing is not technology, but the human factor. At the beginning of the last century, Solovyov wrote: "The main trouble in Russia is the absence of an independent population." And where does it come from?
    I believe that as long as oligarchic capital reigns in Russia, bureaucracy and "nepotism" will not change anything ... But if you can somehow cope with oligarchic capital and bureaucracy, then "nepotism" is in our blood, and nothing with it can not be helped. A country in which nepotism is the basis of the social lift will inevitably degrade and, in the end, disappear from the political map of the world ...
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 21 June 2016 14: 06
      0
      Quote: whowhy
      . A country in which nepotism is the basis of a social elevator will inevitably degrade and, in the end, disappear from the political map of the world ...

      Did you try to turn this lemon into lemonade? Or in another way - "if you cannot overcome the phenomenon - lead it!" The roots of nepotism are the noblest - in our land it was difficult for our ancestors to live, that in the fields and forests of the race, that in our steppes of Kazakhia. From this, in mental attitudes, mutual help appeared between people, especially between relatives. In the current economic conditions, this translates into nepotism and tribalism. By the way, in the West this phenomenon is also very developed, can you give examples? Why is the Vice President of the United States frequenting Ukraine? Isn't he already lobbying for the interests of his son?
      Cronyism is not defeated? Then we encourage the creation of family businesses where nepotism is simply necessary laughing
      But there are difficulties with the civil service ... Even such recognized figures as Rogozin and Shoigu (the son - top managers in the arms company, the daughter heads the disaster medicine) did not escape the "gun on the stigma" ... But if you put your head, then and here you can think of a lot ...
    2. nekot
      nekot 21 June 2016 16: 58
      0
      Quote: whowhy
      that "nepotism" is in our blood, and nothing can be done about it. A country in which nepotism is the basis of the social lift will inevitably degrade and, in the end, disappear from the political map of the world ...

      It’s not harmful to dream, but at least they’ve stood for 1000 years, I hope that in the future such Wishlist will be far from reality)))
  18. sergey2017
    sergey2017 21 June 2016 13: 25
    0
    Quote: Dimontius
    If you (west) did not arrange wars for us, both hot and cold, then you would have to clone our Skolkovo for California, and not vice versa. And so we are forced to be constantly mobilized. Mobilized hierarchically, i.e. there is no freedom of action, always someone is looking after someone - and this interferes. Prevents exactly what you are talking about. Look at what Rosatom has achieved now (even a space apparatus on a nuclear reactor wants to do it), wait again and see the same exhaust in most of our, primordial and not only, spheres of activity. Well, no, you again roll the divisions to our borders, and then ask: "Why can't you do anything again?" And who else are the barbarians with their raids ...

    I fully support! The article is harmful, and the author is just an enemy of Russia! Minkin is a welcome guest of Shaggy Radio "ECHO of Moscow" and that says it all!
  19. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 21 June 2016 13: 28
    0
    We'll figure it out ourselves.
  20. Million
    Million 21 June 2016 13: 28
    +5
    Putin boasted of some sort of his plan. Probably soon we will live well
  21. guzik007
    guzik007 21 June 2016 13: 38
    +1
    Minkin on the VO! This is something!
  22. nik-karata
    nik-karata 21 June 2016 13: 39
    +1
    Article minus. The difference in the perception of a democratic society and a society of hucksters and consumers. Democracy in them is not that system! The author compared horseradish with a tram handle, i.e. incomparable. And here is an invention and a mesentery vein ?! One is given to grow a cow, and the other to sell milk.
  23. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 21 June 2016 13: 43
    +6
    Quote: sdc_alex
    Not a single Soviet scientist and inventor, however, as Popov and Yablochkov did not set themselves the goal of extracting commercial profit from their inventions.

    The highlight is not quite so, patented.
    Who remembers the magazines "Young Technician", "Do it yourself", "Technology of Youth" and many others, including other countries, where ideas, schemes, designs of various devices, etc. were published, because their authors did not even think about rewards, but simply shared with the community. But the Japanese had an "office" where they revised publications, studied and patented things that were interesting in their opinion. This was the difference in the approach to the word business, to our great regret.
  24. engineer74
    engineer74 21 June 2016 13: 45
    +4
    All this reminds of the Gorbachev and Yeltsin times: "Destroy the Country and you will live like America!", So dear Professor L. Graham, put your recommendations .... hm.
    Something really needs to be done with the commercialization of ideas, but not according to Western patterns - we have already eaten, thanks! You can recall the Stalinist experience with artels, when private traders released consumer hi-tech of that time receivers and televisions! (In III Reich there were no special problems with technologies either ...)
    IMHO
    PS What the hell are people in the West! Any, absolutely any problem is explained by the absence of Western "Democracy"!
    ......, .....! (c) S.V. Lavrov
  25. Stinger
    Stinger 21 June 2016 13: 48
    +3
    Yes, everything is wrong. They’re doing some nonsense, they don’t ask Minkin, they don’t consult with Echo of Moscow, they don’t hold parades, they annex everything, the Baltic States are about to fall under Putin’s onslaught. Where should success come from? Only from liberal chatter!
  26. Nehist
    Nehist 21 June 2016 13: 53
    +4
    In the article there is a lot that is correct, as for the last part, in some ways the author is right and in what is not. Any advances in technology in our country were cut at the root, with the wording expensive, we don't need it, it's better the old fashioned way! As a result, when the whole world is already using these technologies to the full, those who hold them open their eyes and someone remembers that we have already proposed it. But the instinct works like that of Palkan from M / F Flying Ship! "Will you build? Buy !!!" (C) As a result, our technologies remain lying under the cloth or are used in narrowly targeted industries and foreign ones are purchased which went to the masses
  27. soroKING
    soroKING 21 June 2016 13: 58
    0
    Minkin, Linkin, Fridkin ... somehow somehow, I’m not anti-Semite, but still
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 June 2016 14: 16
      +2
      poet Push-kin ... Prince Mysh-kin ... bastion Narysh-kin ...
      somehow
      I'm not anti-Semite either, but crying
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 21 June 2016 15: 15
        +1
        smile Naryshkin Bastion? I thought a politician. Pushkin - just yes. Abram Hannibal is his ancestor. The system of Jewish-Russian surnames works. Only here we will not wait for the "Bronze Horseman" from Minkin. Rather from Gelman we pry a stinking heap. the lowercase letters in the names are not accidental. This audience, pissing on "rain" Gagarin with a small letter otherwise unworthy. Then "oh, why don't they like it"
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  28. Nix1986
    Nix1986 21 June 2016 14: 03
    +3
    "At the moment, the leaders of Russia are trying to modernize, but, unfortunately, in line with their predecessors - the tsars and Soviet leaders." Unfortunately, not in the style of either the tsars or the Soviet leaders. For 25 years after the collapse of the USSR, not a single official from the ministerial chair was worth 10% of Stolypin, none of the DAM's plans, either in terms of the degree of elaboration or in terms of key indicators, came close to the Stalin five-year plans. When something really needs to be done, it will work out if someone is interested in it, we have no such interested in innovations in our government, and all we hear is just noodles, well, they say, once I'm sitting here in the government in a position, it seems like and say something, but no one will do what is clear.
  29. alicante11
    alicante11 21 June 2016 14: 10
    0
    The only prerequisite for the implementation of the invention are RESOURCES. The same West introduces only those technologies. That allow VERY quick commercial gain. Tell me., Where is the US space industry, which allowed (if allowed) to land a person on the moon. Now the only task of this industry is the conclusion of communications satellites and the military.
    In contrast to the West, even those that did not promise immediate benefits could be introduced in Russia. But for this it was necessary to reach the powers that be, because real resources on a scale sufficient to create a competitive industry, for example, to produce light bulbs, were available only to the state. Or, as an option, interest the same state in buying your invention. But also through the powers that be. So each system has its pros and cons.

    There is a key difference between invention and innovation. So you invented something on the desktop or in the laboratory. There was nothing similar before. We congratulate you: if you could do it - you are an inventor! However, the innovator is another. Innovation means: take this invention and make it commercially successful.


    In this case, the best "innovators" are the Japanese and the Chinese, whose main "innovative" activity is to capitalize someone else's invention and sell it at a higher price. However, the West itself is also skilled at this. The article gives good examples with a light bulb and a radio. In general, I have not seen a more delusional explanation of the word "innovation".
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 June 2016 14: 21
      +1
      "In general, I have not seen a more delusional explanation of the word" innovation "." ////

      Do you have a better option?
      "innovation" is something new. If no one sees or uses this new thing, neither people, nor firms,
      then it will be a forgotten invention.
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  30. Roman 11
    Roman 11 21 June 2016 14: 21
    +4
    Mutko, tambourine - change Slutsky to BERDYEV, before it's too late! Otherwise, it’s a shame again, like yesterday — and the country is getting ready for the 2018 World Cup.
    1. Enter limits on gastrobayterov depending on the result of achievements in the competition. Winning places are taken - it means you can 4/5 of the legionnaires let out on the field.
    2. So that our non-football players do not measure against each other with cars, introduce a STEPPED salary - ie. as in the first paragraph, if at the competition prizes are occupied by this one level of income, failure to leave the group - get "gulkin nose".
    3. Stop scoffing at the calendar, we do not have a southern country - cancel the spring-autumn system, return as it was humanly, for the summer!
    4. Perhaps the most important thing is to replace the coaches in the academies, if they cannot educate the staff, then the kids are not to blame! If they do not give out for a certain time, a certain number of capable young pupils, then it is necessary to change, as not corresponding to the position. When fulfilling the "plan" in every possible way, reward, reward, nominate, etc.
    When raising the main emphasis to do on individual qualities - handling the ball, equipment, dribbling. This is the basis of all the fundamentals, and as you grow older, carefully integrate individuals into the team game, instill theory, tactics, discipline and physics.

    PS Disgrace, Albania entered the next round, but are we worse? Mess, another one, maybe enough money to launder? Sweep the oligarchs out of football with a filthy broom, otherwise football will die.
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 21 June 2016 15: 01
      +2
      It is significant that in the comments to the article "kakby" about innovations, the conversation turned to football. Because such seemingly unrelated things show how sick the system is. Everything that the "invisible hand of the market" touches (she is a liberal and an oligarch) turns from gold into dung. Alas. For the market (especially the current one, dying ugly) puts profit at the head of everything. And everything else is a tool. Naturally, from the point of view of profit, it is more efficient to speculate on everything from healthcare and housing and communal services to defense orders and space. What is there about football, which has been criminalized from time immemorial throughout the world ...
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 21 June 2016 23: 54
      0
      Come on! Our football players just proved that without doping. laughing
  31. Nix1986
    Nix1986 21 June 2016 14: 21
    +5
    Quote: Million
    Putin boasted of some sort of his plan. Probably soon we will live well

    Well, if the "plan" is good, then we will live very good laughing
    1. bastard
      bastard 21 June 2016 15: 00
      +3
      Quote: Nix1986
      Well, if the "plan" is good, then we will live very good

      Hold five, buddy! good
      I had fun, even though I am sick now and it hurts to laugh.
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 21 June 2016 17: 24
        +1
        Get well, well, according to the LADY's graduation, you can see that the plan is "kosher" wink
  32. lukewarm
    lukewarm 21 June 2016 14: 46
    +3
    I read and thought "smacks of something." I read it and understood. Minkin. And what does this article do here. Probably for a show flogging. The twig is from me then. everything is so beautiful and logical for this professor (along with minkin). Allow a free market, demonstrations, give power to prokherovs and hodors - and you will heal. So excuse me, they are all essentially in power. Nobody canceled the results of privatization (this is "sacred") Well, perhaps the merchant has not yet sat down in the presidential chair (I hope I will not live). In their coordinate system (market shares, etc.), maybe this theory somehow worked (now it is choking). In our country, something starts to move only when they give it to such "liberals". We must not listen to the Minkins, but finally decolonize the country. Direct finance to the real sector, not to the fin. speculation and dollar support. And other well-known things for which Latin American leaders have cancer and impeachment. Then the state will protect its producer and market shares and other capitalizations will apply. Our economy is still run in the spirit of this professor. We got shit on the top, but they say that it smells from a neighbor. Because he did not elect Prokherov as president and goes to the "Immortal Regiment" and not to pederast parades. So how will this affect innovation? Or do they come exclusively through the organ in the pope?
  33. 2s1122
    2s1122 21 June 2016 14: 54
    0
    All developments and discoveries have a dual purpose in any field of science, and the fact that there are limitations is a normal phenomenon. But the fact that transcompanies buy up patents for a discovery is exactly what Western democracy is. As they say: "Not to yourself, not to people."
  34. renics
    renics 21 June 2016 16: 06
    +3
    But at the same time (I must say this, I'm sorry) they forbid demonstrations, they suppress political opponents and entrepreneurs who have accumulated enough power to challenge them. They prohibit demonstrations and protests as if it could help move towards innovation. And all that was said by Loren GREHEM, in the end, translated into politics, he may be a professor at the economic forum in St. Petersburg, but in fact he was just a mishandled Cossack. And finally he issued the last. They support authoritarian regimes. And the United States does not support, only one example of what is Saudi Arabia. The hint is clear to change the policy, as if under their Yeltsin everything was in innovation.
  35. eyed
    eyed 21 June 2016 16: 50
    +3
    Under the Soviets, everything was decided for scientists with party cards, Komsomol geeks, who, instead of studying, held meetings and licked their superiors with the language of their experience. I am talking about inventions and developments suitable, so to speak, for "everyday life". As for the war and space, other people were sitting there, and the Office did not sleep. And then everything went to pieces. Sobchachko-Chubaykovskie shitcrats ruined and sold everything.
    Science was lowered below the bottom, sucking everywhere its menagers.
    That’s for sure, it’s been a long time to scoop us out of this hole, and since no one is going to do this now, it’s for decades. Lagging behind the current achievements of the West is forever. Only breakthrough scientific discoveries and developments can save us, that's just who and how to do it will be for 25000 p .... And in Skolkin small chubasiks will be sitting and sawing a tree and chopping cabbage. They are not trained to another, and they don’t need ....
  36. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 21 June 2016 17: 20
    +1
    Make yourself a democracy, make yourself free speech, make yourself a free market, make yourself intellectual property protection ... and we will come and joyfully parasitize. Intellectual property protection for foreigners in the United States - no. There is a free market in the USA for China, for example - no. Is freedom of speech in the usa? - no.
    Intellectual property freedom, censorship, planned production - this is the key to success. China by the way uses it very successfully.
  37. TOZ-34
    TOZ-34 21 June 2016 17: 51
    0
    This Mr. Minkin hit the sky with his finger. What is the difference between the commercialization of the invention and the demonstration, frankly, I do not understand.
    In my opinion (exclusively) the problem is different. Anyone who has money is not going to share with the inventor or pay any substantial amount to his invention.
    If the inventor comes to the person who has the money tomorrow, they will send him ... at best in Skolkovo. Or they will offer for two pennies to abandon the right to invention.
    Our people are used to what to buy over the hill - it’s understandable what I’m paying for and how much I’ll steal, and to pay Vasya - who is he?
    That is, they are not used to buying the idea, they are used to buying finished goods, preferably imported.
    The most striking example of this kind of thinking is the former Defense Minister Taburetkin. Why rack your brains over the construction of the shipbuilding industry if you can order the Mistral in France and the Lynx in Italy?
  38. STAH029
    STAH029 21 June 2016 20: 08
    -2
    Everything that is invented in Russia is hidden by the Jews. And then surrenders to any country in the world !! And they prove to the Russians that they are all rogues and drunks !!! While the Jews in power in Russia do not see the light !!
  39. Captain45
    Captain45 21 June 2016 20: 48
    0
    On the topic of technology and innovation, I can recommend a couple of articles, as it was in the USSR: http: //www.ymuhin.ru/node/806/sssr-i-evm; http://versia.ru/articles/2013/aug/21/startsev_pugali_roboty; http://cccp-revivel.blogspot.ru/2013/07/utinaya-ohota-ili-o-prichastnosti-amerik
    ancev-k-sovetskoj-mikroelektronike.html # more
  40. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 21 June 2016 21: 49
    0
    The author began for health, finished for repose.
    Having raised the important problem of innovation, he took the solution to the political plane.
    Which is very clear.
    Since the leaders of perestroika are at peace, and they are not popular, they need to take care of new proteges, whom the West obviously sees Prokhorov (the ё-mobile in a single copy), which requires a protest movement, demonstrations, and parade parades.
    Only these innovations have nothing to do with innovation.
    If today we have such a problem, then its roots lie in the implanted American democratic and economic model, which made Russia a gas station, and taking measures to preserve the country's role as a raw materials appendage.
    Advice on democracy is given to suckers.
    We remember very well how the Ukrainians who entered the Maidan, instead of democracy and European salaries, received European prices, went into debt, destroyed the economy, and lost the country.
    The country needs innovation, only the main one who does not allow this is the west.
  41. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 June 2016 22: 05
    0
    Everything with us, as elsewhere. It's just that Matrasia managed to crawl into the pockets of the whole world, and they have more money, they are very dashingly scattered with them, because they don't bother too much - just think, the national debt is 19 TRILLION with a penny. Well, they will allow themselves more. And the whole world will pay for it. With innovations and scams based on them in the West, everything is in order - we never dreamed of such a rampant - who will remember Jobs in a skirt that promised two hundred blood tests? I threw investors for 8 billion in total! And this is just such a blatant case, there are fewer such swindlers - at every step. The most egregious scam, not yet solved, but which will explode from the heart is a new religion and its preacher Musk. There is one linden tree on top of another, and it drives us like a scam - ours would not buy into "vacuum trains". Musk piles one pyramid on top of another, and like in any pyramid - the slightest hitch, and everything collapses with a terrible crash!
    As for the implementation of inventions - so the salvation of drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves. If the patent is worthwhile - it can be implemented personally, and nothing special is needed for this. You open a company, make a website, pick up orders - and work ... I know what I'm saying, there are a dozen patents, and a couple of them are completely fed to themselves. But just like that, myself. And who, in fact, owes you something?
  42. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 22 June 2016 12: 21
    0
    Everything is simple, as ingenious. Western spies have always worked in Russia, and probably will work. Their. 2 categories - the first steal technology, the second in power plays on the side of the West against Russia, putting sticks in the wheels of innovation to please the West. Here Rogozin said that factory directors and designers of the military-industrial complex cannot and do not get the opportunity to convey their vision to the top leadership of Russia. But this is Rogozin’s direct duty to convey these thoughts and do everything to ensure that directors and designers have access to senior management. Rogozin is a case in point, an explanation of why innovations are not being introduced in Russia.