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In St. Petersburg, the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia with the mediation of Vladimir Putin discuss the issue of resolving the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh

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In the Konstantinovsky Palace in Strelna (St. Petersburg), Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan, Serzh Sargsyan and Ilham Aliyev. The subject of the meeting is devoted to the settlement of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. Before meeting in the troika format, the President of the Russian Federation held personal meetings with each of the guests.


The President of Armenia thanked the Russian side for rendering important mediation efforts in the process of the Nagorno-Karabakh settlement. According to Sargsyan, Armenia is set up exclusively for a peaceful, diplomatic solution to the problem.

The President of Azerbaijan also expressed his gratitude to Russia in helping to find a solution to the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, stating that the format of the trilateral meeting will be able to impart constructive dynamics to the entire negotiation process.

Before the meeting, the Azerbaijani leader expressed condolences in connection with the tragedy in Karelia.

From Ilham Aliyev’s appeal to Vladimir Putin (presented press service President of Azerbaijan (the style is preserved):

To the President of the Russian Federation, His Excellency Vladimir Putin.

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich,
I am deeply saddened by the news about the death of children as a result of a storm on the Syamozero lake in Karelia.
On behalf of the people of Azerbaijan and on my own behalf, I express sincere condolences to you, the families and friends of the victims, the entire people of Russia.
Ilham Aliyev.


In St. Petersburg, the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia with the mediation of Vladimir Putin discuss the issue of resolving the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh


The fact that the meeting in a trilateral format began very warmly attracted attention. The presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia, despite the previous meeting, were quite tough rhetoric, found the strength to smile at each other and shake hands.

In Nagorno-Karabakh, they hope that the meeting will be constructive and will be the embodiment of the opportunity to reach important agreements that will contribute to the end of a clearly protracted conflict. It is noted that in St. Petersburg the possibility is being discussed of agreeing on the implementation of monitoring along the contact line of the parties and on the mechanism for investigating possible incidents.
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  1. Dimontius
    Dimontius 20 June 2016 18: 16
    +15
    No, seriously, friends, it's time to resolve this conflict once and for all. The visit of both sides to the king-priest should mark the end of the conflict! Or are you going to play war games for another 25 years ?! Putin needs to put pressure on the presidents to make concessions on both sides. How else? not to please the Turks with the amers with the presence of a hot spot near the borders of the Russian Federation forever !!
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 June 2016 18: 31
      +12
      This is a difficult question, but it must be resolved if all kinds of Erdogans from the USA did not climb, etc. then this problem can be solved.
      1. Vend
        Vend 20 June 2016 18: 38
        +3
        I completely agree. We are an aggressor country, so this conflict must be resolved, as always peacefully, by political dialogue
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 20 June 2016 22: 47
          +4
          Quote: Wend
          We are an aggressor country, so this conflict must be resolved, as always peacefully,

          Ts-ss, colleague !!! And then they will also prescribe Russia to implement the Karabakh agreements ... like Minsk ... And sanctions, sanctions, more sanctions, because who, if not us, Russia, sets fire to the Caucasus, organizing a hotbed of instability and tension - everything is in the know, yes and the training manual will not lie ... yes Well, no fools - even with the first shots in April, it became clear that Russia would have to settle in Karabakh (“thank you, cap!” - that's me for myself), and in the shortest possible time. As a paranoid nonsense: to take Karabakh under the jurisdiction of Russia, removing the subject of the dispute from "circulation". There you can also create a magnificent garden and park, planting "trees" and "flowers". That's when there definitely no one else will even shoot from a slingshot ... I repeat, this is not serious, although this is a topic. hi
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 38
        -6
        Quote: cniza
        if all Erdogans from the USA did not climb

        And what have THEY to do with ????
        Whose ally is Armenia ?? and whose weapons are there ??
        Who is the supplier of weapons to the parties to the conflict ???
        In Azerbaijan, 80% of the Russian Federation, the remaining 20 are divided by Israel. Ukraine and Belarus with Turkey.
        Armenia at 95% of the Russian Federation and at what at free prices or for free.
        But Erdogan is to blame for the United States))))
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 20 June 2016 20: 17
          +11
          Quote: Yeraz
          Who is the supplier of weapons to the parties to the conflict ??? In Azerbaijan, 80% of the Russian Federation, the remaining 20 are divided between Israel. Ukraine and Belarus with Turkey.

          I read and marvel!
          In the world, every 6 minutes someone is killed from a Kalashnikov assault rifle, judging by your logic, Kalashnikov is to blame for anyone ????? What about the thousands of Russian military who took part in the war on the side of Baku? Guilty for any ??????
          The unpreparedness of the Soviet leadership for adequate political actions in the context of aggravated ethnic strife, the inconsistency of the measures taken, the central authorities declaring equal guilt of Armenia and Azerbaijan in creating a crisis situation led to the emergence and strengthening of radical anti-communist opposition in both republics. In 1991-1994, this confrontation led to large-scale military operations for control over Nagorno-Karabakh and some adjacent territories. In essence, in the countries of the Nazis nalisticheskoe movement was imposed on the historical conflict, this has resulted in direct conflict
          At the same time, do not forget that this conflict will be more than one hundred years old.
          Quote: Yeraz
          But Erdogan is to blame for the United States))))

          You somehow completely missed the policies of Azerbaijan and the United States in particular in the same GUAM bloc. The goals there were quite definite.
          The cooperation between Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova in the framework of GUAM was laid at a meeting of the presidents of the respective countries on October 10, 1997 in Strasbourg during the Council of Europe summit. At the same time, an official communique was adopted on the recognition of the GUAM union with the status of “consultative forum”. This event was announced during the anniversary NATO summit in Washington, during which the GUUAM leaders adopted the Washington Declaration, declaring the goal of integration into European and Euro-Atlantic structures.
        2. xetai9977
          xetai9977 20 June 2016 20: 56
          -6
          Many are well aware of what's what, but argue for the sake of argument. Karabakh is the rightful territory of Azerbaijan! Internationally, too. And ALL countries (including Russia) consider it Azerbaijani territory, like it or not. And the conflict will not end until this cradle of Azerbaijani culture (20% of the country's territory!) Returns to Azerbaijan. The occupation has been committed by Armenia and the conflict is being delayed due to the fault of Armenia, which kindly does not want to return what was seized, and Erdogan is to blame for the United States ?? Cynicism of pure water!
          1. poquello
            poquello 20 June 2016 21: 12
            +7
            Quote: xetai9977
            Karabakh is the rightful territory of Azerbaijan!

            the Soviet government has bred you, now biting into the American tune
            In 1813, a peace Russian-Iranian treaty was signed in the Karabakh fortress of Gulistan, which recognized the transfer of the Karabakh khanate to Russian rule.
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 20 June 2016 21: 21
              -8
              Really idiocy! And before that there was a clean field? They themselves confirmed - KHANSTAN! And where is the Khanate seen from the Armenians? By the way. wise guy, do you dispute the official position of Russia on the recognition of Karabakh as Azerbaijani territory?
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 20 June 2016 21: 43
                +10
                Quote: xetai9977
                Really idiocy! And before that there was a clean field? They themselves confirmed - KHANSTAN! And where is the Khanate seen from the Armenians? By the way. wise guy, do you dispute the official position of Russia on the recognition of Karabakh as Azerbaijani territory?

                ... argue with the map of the Russian Empire in 1914, Elizabeth ... a fragment of interest to us is being applied ... hi
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 20 June 2016 21: 17
            +7
            Quote: xetai9977
            The occupation has been committed by Armenia and the conflict is being delayed due to the fault of Armenia, which kindly does not want to return what was seized, and Erdogan is to blame for the United States ?? Cynicism of pure water!

            Why I do not like to argue on this issue, because everyone knows who is to blame!
            And to solve this issue, you only need an adequate perception of the problem.
            No one denies the problem, but the solution is a long negotiation process, but even Yerevan is to blame. Until they surrender the territories that were seized in the place with Nagorno-Karabakh, there will be no negotiations and additional conditions are being answered on the other hand.
            To put forward conditions and blame each other, that’s cynicism, not what you say.
            The beginning of negotiations without any conditions, even on the moon, here is a way out of the problem, and not a search for the guilty
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 20 June 2016 21: 22
              0
              What does Azerbaijan want? Let the troops withdraw, and there will be peace and quiet. Who will put up with the occupation? What country?
        3. pilot8878
          pilot8878 20 June 2016 22: 58
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          Who is the supplier of weapons to the parties to the conflict ???
          In Azerbaijan, 80% of the Russian Federation, the remaining 20 are divided by Israel. Ukraine and Belarus with Turkey.
          Armenia at 95% of the Russian Federation and at what at free prices or for free.
          But Erdogan is to blame for the United States))))

          It does not kill the weapon, but the hands that direct it. The word (politics) is killing.
      3. Yeraz
        Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 44
        +3
        By the way, a wonderful parody of the coverage of events in Karabakh in early April by the Russian media from KVN guys from Baku.

        Video in Russian. Very indicative)))

        https://ok.ru/video/129531382272
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 20 June 2016 21: 01
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Heavy is the question

        Question by question. But this is not important. Amers have sleeping agents there. Look at the latest intensification of hostilities. When did it happen? Exactly! Calculate and render harmless! And even then you can calmly restore order. And to the village all the work can go to waste for this reason yes
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    3. g1v2
      g1v2 20 June 2016 18: 42
      +7
      Both sides want war. Honestly, I don’t understand what pain points the GDP can put pressure on to resolve the conflict. Armenians are still winning and sharing it is hardly ready. Azerbaijan is in the rank of a loser and it is unlikely to recognize defeat. Thz xs what can Putin do to make a compromise. request Unless pinch off piece by piece from Turkey or Georgia. wink
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 20 June 2016 19: 31
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Thz xs what can Putin do to make a compromise.

        I could suggest "Minsk". Like, Karabakh tse Azerbaijan, special status, local elections, amnesty law and all that. Partner Kolyanya and partner Angelka would have pulled up. But the Armenians probably won't buy such crap. You are right, they are winning and they did not stop the offensive under their "Mariupol" then.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 20 June 2016 22: 12
          +2
          No good leader will give an order that will not be implemented. PM GDP will not offer something that is not beneficial to both parties. But what can it be, I can’t imagine. It’s not easy for us to spoil relations with both countries. We have a base in Armenia, and in Azerbaijan we are building a radar station. We will see, but I'm intrigued. belay
      2. dauria
        dauria 20 June 2016 21: 07
        +3
        Thz xs what can Putin do to make a compromise.


        Promise to expel both diasporas from Moscow and Russia, despite the presence of Russian citizenship without a trial ... lol
        Yes, there is nothing to push him with, nothing. He can't even crush the "dad". It is in his interests to leave everything as it is, so that they do not rock the boat too much. Sorry, but "friendship of peoples" under capitalism is an empty phrase. But the enmity of the tops for their own market is a reality.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 June 2016 22: 39
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        Both sides want war.

        Only a d. Moron can want a "war", a d. Ebil in this context is not a curse, but a diagnosis.
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 20 June 2016 20: 51
      +1
      Unfortunately, this hot spot is for a long time. How many times have already met, to no avail, or something like that. The Azerbaijanis are not ready to give up their principles, the Armenians-territory.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 20 June 2016 21: 05
      +1
      It is strange that the conflict in Karabakh has escalated right now, when the West has run out of opportunities to put pressure on Russia. The "thin world" had been there for decades, and now - the shooting.
      I am convinced that this conflict can be resolved only in tripartite negotiations, completely eliminating even the slightest influence of Western countries.
    6. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 June 2016 22: 24
      +5
      20 minutes of the first taim 2-0. For such football they get millions of dollars. They are creatures and not the players of the Russian national team.
      4 years have been waiting to see this horror.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 June 2016 22: 40
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        20 minutes of the first taim 2-0

        Sanya, just switched so as not to look, and here you are. angry
        1. corporal
          corporal 21 June 2016 01: 46
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          They are creatures and not the players of the Russian team.

          After:http://inosmi.ru/sports/20160620/236915705.html
          The Welsh have a long-standing score for our team. And I did not know the whole story.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 20 June 2016 18: 16
    +19
    Now let the whole world see who is the peacemaker, Russia, represented by its President Putin, who managed to stop the war that actually started in the shortest possible time, or the "collective West", headed by the "godfather" states, unleashing conflicts around the world.
    1. Hon
      Hon 20 June 2016 18: 19
      0
      http://inosmi.ru/military/20160620/236909558.html
      Armenians already have glitches
      1. Dimontius
        Dimontius 20 June 2016 18: 38
        -5
        what kind of author? where does he live? who pays his salary? the search engine could not help. which means it’s just another assumption ... another expert. It is a pity that in his text about Formula 1 in Baku it is not written at the beginning of the article, after reading such crap I would immediately close the page, and so I had to read everything. negative
        1. Hon
          Hon 20 June 2016 18: 51
          0
          Are you an Armenian media specialist? probably to google the author you need to drive a request in Armenian
          1. Dimontius
            Dimontius 20 June 2016 19: 08
            +3
            But what does this author write only in Armenian, or can only Armenians read it? I just read it, thanks to you personally. Or is this his only article translated? otherwise I would read a couple more in order to more accurately assess his views. And my post was connected with the style of its presentation, which one in one coincides with the style of the CIS emigrants to Western countries. And I personally a priori already had a negative attitude towards their works, I just smell them through the lines, almost from where they broadcast.
            1. Hon
              Hon 20 June 2016 20: 46
              0
              Well, given that the author is an employee of an Armenian newspaper, which is published in Armenian, it is very likely that he writes only in Armenian. What is every Armenian journalist required to write in several languages? You can certainly show the wonders of the deductive method, and based on the style of the author, build theories of a world conspiracy. And you can not make yourself a detective, go down articles and see a link to the source.
              1. Dimontius
                Dimontius 20 June 2016 21: 14
                +2
                thank you for bringing my attention to the site itself. and in general it didn't give a damn about who this author was, because I just opened the articles that were below, its not his-xs. And what did I see there? and there I saw that "the Russian Federation is interfering in the affairs of Armenia" and "the United States will help Armenia reduce its dependence on the Russian Federation .... and also" The only potential ally in the region is IRAN. "You know, my friend, let’s put these liberal calculations where anything, just not on this patriotic site, which stands for warm relations with Armenia, and not so that we (VO fans) would come across all anti-Russian crap. ”It's a pity that I didn't notice earlier, they would have made fewer minuses to me.
  3. Hon
    Hon 20 June 2016 18: 17
    -5
    Khreras room. this is how many bobla used to be invested in all this design? and after all everything is natural, no decorative panels
  4. razmik72
    razmik72 20 June 2016 18: 17
    +4
    Interestingly, this is what the meeting of the presidents is about.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 20
      -2
      millionth))))
    2. sever.56
      sever.56 20 June 2016 18: 30
      +11
      Yes, even a hundredth, if only the blood of both Armenians and Azerbaijanis did not pour.
      My personal opinion is that Azerbaijan must come to terms with the fact that Nagorno-Karabakh will never be part of it. But there are forces, in the person of Turkey and the states (first of all), interested in intensifying the conflict.
      It is very difficult for Russia in this situation to find a "golden mean", and even more so to take one side or the other, but everything possible is being done so that blood does not shed.
      In general, knowing the mentality of the peoples of the Caucasus, this conflict lasts for many years.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 20 June 2016 19: 27
        -1
        Quote: sever.56
        that Azerbaijan must come to terms with the fact that Nagorno-Karabakh will never be part of it.

        Already tuneddamus) Chezh did not come to terms with the Crimea?
        Quote: sever.56
        But there are forces, in the person of Turkey and the states (first of all), interested in intensifying the conflict.

        20% of our lands were occupied. Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 districts around it, about 1 million refugees and this is the Turks warms up the conflict, but we don’t want the lands back ??? Already got this paranoia everywhere to see the United States and, more recently, Turkey.
        Quote: sever.56
        It is very difficult for Russia in this situation to find a "golden mean", and even more so to take one side or the other, but everything possible is being done so that blood does not shed.

        Well, yes, that's why Russia is arming both sides at most I don’t want. I thought why? It turns out that it sells so many weapons to the parties to the conflict, being practically a monopolist in this area, it turns out that it doesn’t want to pour blood. in these countries, in the case of Turkey, the percent power is 2, and in the case of the United States
        1. sever.56
          sever.56 20 June 2016 19: 59
          +7
          Quote: Yeraz
          Already tuneddamus) Chezh did not come to terms with the Crimea?

          Goofy ... Ali struck !!!
          Yes "identity" that the Crimea, in Bukhalov's words, "Khrushch" gave the Ukrainian SSR in honor of the three hundredth anniversary of the reunification of Ukraine with Russia. ITSELF, without agreeing on the issue of belonging to this or that territory, to this or that republic. The Supreme Soviet of the USSR did not approve this decision. That's it.

          Quote: Yeraz
          20% of our lands were occupied. Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 districts around it, about 1 million refugees, and this is the Turks that warms up the conflict, but we don’t want the land returned ???

          And who, in general, "cut" the territories of those or other republics of the USSR? What makes you think that certain regions of Karabakh have belonged to you for centuries? All borders were drawn when the USSR was created, without reference and priority of those or other peoples.
          Iran (Persia) may just as well assert that 2/3 of the territory of Azerbaijan is "native Iranian lands" (you hope you know how many Azerbaijanis live in northern Iran).

          Quote: Yeraz
          Well, yes, that's why Russia is arming both sides at most I don’t want. I thought why? It turns out that it sells so many weapons to the parties to the conflict, being practically a monopolist in this area, it turns out that it doesn’t want to pour blood. in these countries, in the case of Turkey, the percent power is 2, and in the case of the United States

          By supplying arms to Armenia and Azerbaijan, Russia fulfills its duties to them as members of the CSTO, and does not crave blood. If she wanted this, then she would have hammered a bolt on all this, and calmly waited until they cut each other. And interest in arms supplies is bullshit ... Everything is done by ideology, politics and economics. A weapon is only a means to an end.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 20 June 2016 20: 40
            -2
            Quote: sever.56
            What makes you think that parts of Karabakh have been yours for centuries? All borders were drawn during the creation of the USSR, without the attachment and priority of certain peoples.

            And what ?? Then Russia didn’t let Chechnya go, which it didn’t consider as its historical land. And Azerbaijan is offering to bargain for 20% of the land that it considers HISTORICALLY its own.
            Quote: sever.56
            With the same success Iran (Persia) can claim that 2/3 of the territory of Azerbaijan is "native Iranian lands"

            Like Azerbaijan, it can be considered the opposite with respect to Iran, taking into account the fact that these dynasties were ruled by these lands and the whole of Iran.
            Quote: sever.56
            By supplying arms to Armenia and Azerbaijan, Russia fulfills its duties to them as members of the CSTO, and does not crave blood.

            Opaa Azerbaijan became a member of the CSTO and we all missed it ???
            Russia does not crave blood, but the very existence of a conflict in order to control the parties to a certain extent. In the case of Armenia, 100%, in the case of Azerbaijan, in part.
            What do you think, how many Armenians would be enough if Russia would leave it ?? Would they immediately sit down at the table and say Ara while the Russians were listening to all this, we would live normally under the USSR, then Ivan would quarrel. And the problem would quickly be solved.
            But this conflict is needed by the Russian Federation and Iran, and partly America, well, here she has a winning position, in any scenario, the conflicts are resolved and unresolved do not harm her interests.
            1. sever.56
              sever.56 20 June 2016 20: 58
              +3
              Quote: Yeraz
              Then what

              And no "che" ...

              Quote: Yeraz
              Russia hasn’t let go of Chechnya, which it’s certainly did not consider to be its historical land. And Azerbaijan is proposing to bargain for 20% of the land that it considers HISTORICALLY its own.

              Aw, why did you get this ??? Remember FOREVER WHERE THERE IS RUSSIAN, THERE IS RUSSIA !!!

              Quote: Yeraz
              Russia does not crave blood, but the very existence of a conflict, in order to control the parties to a certain extent.

              Honestly, why the heck all of this is not necessary for Russia ... Just NORMAL people feel sorry for any nation and skin color. In the genes we have compassion, mercy, the desire to help the weak ... And who does not want our help is his hemorrhoids. Only then let them think how to come and ask for this help without humiliating themselves.

              Quote: Yeraz
              What do you think, how many Armenians would be enough if Russia would leave it ?? Would they immediately sit down at the table and say Ara while the Russians were listening to all this, we would live normally under the USSR, then Ivan would quarrel. And the problem would quickly be solved.

              And how do you live with such a rotten attitude towards Russia and Russians in Russia, in the glorious city of St. Petersburg ... Is it not a shame to blame Russia for the conflict between Armenians and Azerbaijanis? Are you not musavatist?

              Quote: Yeraz
              But this conflict is needed by the Russian Federation and Iran, and partly America, well, here she has a winning position, in any scenario, the conflicts are resolved and unresolved do not harm her interests.

              I consider this your statement to be a veiled incitement of ethnic hatred and hatred of Russia.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 27
                +2
                Quote: sever.56
                Remember FOREVER WHERE THERE IS RUSSIAN, THERE IS RUSSIA !!!

                Well, that’s all. There, where the Azerbaijani was then, there is his land according to your logic.
                Quote: sever.56
                And how do you live with such a rotten attitude towards Russia and Russians in Russia, in the glorious city of St. Petersburg ...

                Where did you see the rotten attitude ??? I'm talking about the de facto. Just because it does not agree with yours does not make my opinion rotten.
                Quote: sever.56
                Is it not a shame to blame Russia for the conflict of Armenians and Azerbaijanis?

                It’s not a shame that this is a fact and interests of the Russian Federation. AND THIS IS NORMAL. If I were the leader of the Russian Federation, I would have done the same by changing the format a little, as I know perfectly well what Azerbaijan and its internal features are like Armenia. And I would have resolved the conflict and kept both countries but Russia, as usual, has a clumsy policy, acting tactically and not strategically. This region will leave the hands of Russia. Only with one difference, either drowning in blood or without shelter. But so far blood is visible.
                Quote: sever.56
                Are you not musavatist?

                No, Musavat died along with Rasulzadeh, but not Yeni Azerbaijan either.
                Quote: sever.56
                I consider this your statement to be a veiled incitement of ethnic hatred and hatred of Russia.

                Yes, what has the incitement to do with ??? There is the concept of GOS. INTERESTS !!!! I understand that Americans carry democracy and justice, Russia has hammered into everyone’s head that it brings peace and justice. But there is one fact, each country has its own GOS, INTERESTS, which beneficial to her. Neither Russia nor Iran needs a strong Azerbaijan, especially Iran. What do you think if there weren’t the Karabakh problem, which takes all the economic, political and, in general, all the resources of the state, where would all this go ??? First of all, it’s right in Iran, in the province of Azerbaijan in the north of Iran. Iran does not need this, that it will be on the side of armenii.Azerbaydzhan will always strive to Turkey, and Turkey is a NATO commitment in ES.Poetomu do not need Russia.

                Armenia. If there wasn’t a conflict, it would have been tightly connected with Europe and the United States for a long time, thanks to the diaspora, which occupies key areas and is strongly represented by Western structures. Russia does not need this. Therefore, a conflict is needed, but one of the parties does not need victory. AND THIS IS NORMAL in the interests of the Russian Federation.
                Therefore, there is no need to talk about interethnic divisions.
            2. poquello
              poquello 20 June 2016 21: 40
              +1
              Quote: Yeraz
              Then Che Russia did not let Chechnya go, which it did not consider as its historical land.

              Grozny (the Groznaya fortress) was built in 1818 by General Ermolov, the hostilities ended in 1860, and since 1876 the national Chechen regiments have been fighting as part of the armies of the Republic of Ingushetia with the Turks, etc.
        2. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 20 June 2016 20: 39
          +3
          "... already nastdamus) chezh not reconciled with the Crimea? ,,,"
          Can we figure it out ourselves ?! Without "advisors" ...?! Thanks in advance hi Without you, there are enough "consultants" ....
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 27
            +2
            Quote: ALABAY45
            Can we figure it out ourselves ?! Without "advisors" ...?! Thank you in advance Without you, there are enough "consultants" ....

            Himself in advisers, and others do not need ?? Maybe start with yourself ???
            1. black
              black 21 June 2016 09: 55
              +1
              Let's start by stopping lying. Nagorno-Karabakh is a territory of joint residence of peoples. Joint. This time. These two peoples lack, in a fundamental mentality, the concept of justice. Put in the position of a chief, a representative of one nationality, and he will begin to infringe on the interests of representatives of another nationality, and he will begin to nominate people of his blood to power. Otherwise, his relatives will not understand. This is two. Any attempt by the two presidents to make concessions to each other will be perceived by their electorate as misbehavior and a manifestation of weakness. These are three. These two neighboring peoples will always blame each other for the beginning and continuation of the conflict. This is four. Only the iron will of a big brother can restore order with the help of a big kick. But this is a paragraph.
        3. kush62
          kush62 21 June 2016 04: 31
          +1
          Yeraz
          Well, yes, that's why Russia is arming both sides at most I don’t want. I thought why? It turns out that it sells so many weapons to the parties to the conflict, being practically a monopolist in this area, it turns out that it doesn’t want to pour blood. in these countries, in the case of Turkey, the percent power is 2, and in the case of the United States

          If they don’t buy our weapons, will they give up weapons of other countries?
          On your way out. if warring countries buy someone’s weapon, then the manufacturer of this weapon is to blame. If two neighbors bought axes in a hardware store and got into a fight, then the store owner is to blame. This is the logic.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 21 June 2016 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: kush62
            On your way out. if warring countries buy someone’s weapon, then the manufacturer of this weapon is to blame.

            There is 1 BIG DIFFERENCE. Russia 1 FROM INTERMEDIARIES !!!!! And not just a left-wing country. What kind of mediator that supposedly resolves the conflict, but at the same time arms both sides and is an ally of one of the parties. For example, other mediators have passed the Law on PROHIBITED SALES OF WEAPONS to the parties to the conflict. Therefore, the parties to the conflict do not have Western weapons. It’s clear with the Armenians that you think Azerbaijan didn’t have money to buy weapons from the United States, all requests were rejected due to the ban.
            Therefore, if the Russian Federation was not a mediator of the settlement, then let them sell as much as they like.
            But if 2 neighbors fight and choose you as the neutral side for the solution, but you go give the knife to one, sell the knife to the second, then a strange conflict regulator comes out of you.
      2. Fhvty
        Fhvty 20 June 2016 20: 31
        +1
        My personal opinion is that Azerbaijan must come to terms with the fact that Nagorno-Karabakh will never be part of it
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 June 2016 19: 25
      +1
      razmik72 AM Today, 18:17
      Interestingly, this is what the meeting of the presidents is about.

      What difference does it make! We met, discussed, and listened to some new toasts (probably from Aliyev repeat ) Then they will talk about the eternal friendship of peoples (probably Aliyev) Then they will ask for a loan for this event (Probably Aliyev) Then they will complain that their citizens are not happy to see their citizens in Russia (probably from Aliyev) Then again toasts (probably from Aliyev) And then another batch of more " long-awaited oppressed refugees "will hide in Adler (probably Aliyev is to blame) what
  5. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 20 June 2016 18: 17
    +7
    The GDP is really making efforts and solving issues. It does not imitate and is not in the "process".
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 20 June 2016 19: 39
      -3
      Quote: oleg-gr
      GDP really makes an effort and solves issues. And does not imitate

      And what Karabakh issues did he solve? Put weapons and the one and the other?
  6. Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 20 June 2016 18: 19
    +10
    A very important meeting. Both Armenia and Azerbaijan should remain Russia's strategic allies. If a real step is taken towards a Nagorno-Karabakh settlement, the consequences will be significant in the political, economic, and military-strategic spheres.
    Great news!
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 24
      -5
      Quote: Army 2
      Great news!

      It’s empty and worthless news. Every time you get bloated, and as a result, NOTHING.
      Last time there was even more PR around this and nothing.
      And even before this meeting, Aliyev said that the occupying forces of Armenia should leave Karabakh. And Sargsyan said that it was necessary to solve only by peaceful means, that is, do not do anything for 100 years and that the conflict was frozen.
      Therefore, on-duty phrases will come out thanks to Russia for the desire to solve the problem. Substantial advances have been made in the matter of certain issues and negotiations will continue)))) In short, as always, the phrases are obratsny and that's all.
      And then again the shelling.
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 20 June 2016 18: 40
        +5
        Well, what are your suggestions, if not a secret? And then, judging by your comments presented below, the main way out is again "with sabers bald", and, as a result, a new stage of mutual Armenian-Azerbaijani watering.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 50
          -1
          Quote: Volodin
          Well, what are your suggestions, if not secret?

          To liberate the 7 regions around Karabakh, the return of refugees there and begin negotiations on Karabakh itself. It is possible to trust 1-2 regions as a corridor with Armenia to control the Armenians.
          You see, until the issue of 7 regions around Karabakh is resolved, there will be no normal negotiations on Karabakh itself.
          And so Aliyev promised the widest autonomy to Karabakh. But it’s clear that the Armenians do not believe that it’s normal. And this project is only possible if there are peacekeepers. And the troops of the parties will not have to be in the conflict zone. Only Russia and Turkey can be peacekeepers, because no one will trust other peacekeepers.
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 20 June 2016 18: 56
            0
            Quote: Yeraz
            Free 7 areas around Karabakh return refugees there

            It seems to me that today there are 7 districts, tomorrow "27", etc. And so that there are no misinterpretations, personal meetings at a high level are just the same - and it's time to close the leaders in the room until the "white smoke" comes, meaning that they have agreed, and that they keep their words, like normal men, and bear personal responsibility for their implementation to their peoples.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 20 June 2016 19: 29
              0
              Quote: Volodin
              It seems to me that today there are 7 districts, tomorrow "27", etc.

              What does 27 mean ??? There is Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 districts around. Where else 27 come from ???
          2. sever.56
            sever.56 20 June 2016 18: 59
            +5
            Quote: Yeraz
            .A peacekeepers can only be the Russian Federation and Turkey, since no one will trust other peacekeepers.

            Yeah ... Turkey is such a "peacemaker" that there is nowhere else ...
            The Armenian Genocide during the First World War, Northern Cyprus, Iraq, Syria. At home, in Turkey. so the Kurds are "made peace" that the number of killed Kurds goes to tens of thousands, during the entire conflict.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 20 June 2016 19: 33
              -6
              Quote: sever.56
              Yeah ... Turkey is such a "peacemaker" that there is nowhere else ...

              Well, it depends on whose bell tower. But Turkey needs Azerbaijan to make this deal, the residents of Azerbaijan will trust only Turkish peacekeepers.
              As residents of Armenia, only Russian, although there are many opponents.
              Quote: sever.56
              The Armenian Genocide during the First World War, Northern Cyprus, Iraq, Syria. At home, in Turkey. so the Kurds are "made peace" that the number of killed Kurds goes to tens of thousands, during the entire conflict.

              This is your bell tower, and from the bell tower of Turkey, the First World War, the Circassian genocide, deportation of other peoples, peacekeeping of Chechens, that the account of the killed Chechens reached hundreds of thousands and many refugees, Syria, etc. will also say.
              Therefore, bells do not need to be measured. Nobody will prove anything to anyone.
              For Armenians, Melkonyan is a hero, and for Azerbaijanis, executioner and criminal, and for Armenians, Azerbaijan’s heroes are executioners and criminals.
              1. sever.56
                sever.56 20 June 2016 20: 21
                +4
                Quote: Yeraz
                Well, it’s looking from whose bell tower.

                There should not be any "bell towers". There are some soric facts. documented that it was the Turks who staged the massacre of the Armenians. Even the world community you adore, for the most part, agrees with this.

                Quote: Yeraz
                But Turkey needs Azerbaijan to make this deal, the people of Azerbaijan will trust only Turkish peacekeepers.

                Why do you speak on behalf of all Azerbaijan and all Azerbaijanis? Did someone authorize you to do this, or did you conduct a social survey? I doubt very much that millions of Azerbaijanis living in Russia will want to change their life and business in Russia for the "delights" of Erdogan's Turkey, where human rights are nothing more than an empty phrase. If someone wants - a bon voyage.
                By the way, why do you live not in Azerbaijan, but in Russian St. Petersburg? After all, everything is so shitty here, and we are also waging war all over the world?


                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: sever.56
                  And why do you speak on behalf of all Azerbaijan, and all Azerbaijanis? Did someone authorize you to do this, or did you conduct a social survey?

                  Everyone knows this very well. Go ask in Azerbaijan 99% of you will be answered that way.
                  Quote: sever.56
                  I doubt very much that millions of Azerbaijanis living in Russia will want to change their life and business in Russia for the "delights" of Erdogan's Turkey, where human rights are nothing more than an empty phrase. If someone wants - a bon voyage.

                  And what does the Azerbaijanis of Russia have to do with it ??? They are citizens of the Russian Federation for a long time, just like I. And it is not for us to decide who should be the peacemaker there. Although the majority will also say it, although some will cheat and will not say directly.
                  Quote: sever.56
                  By the way, why do you live not in Azerbaijan, but in Russian St. Petersburg?

                  Well, the dachshund councils pulled my grandfathers from the mountains and threw themselves to the defense of the city, half died, and the rest settled here, the other part was deported. Therefore, I have nowhere to return, since I personally did not come from somewhere.
                  Quote: sever.56
                  After all, everything is so shitty here, and we are also waging war all over the world?

                  Well, you have said a lot around the world. Russia is far from the United States. They can be kindled in every place on the planet. So are the CIS countries and what's near, maximum.
                  And in Russia everything is not so bad as in Azerbaijan, but it could have been a hundred times better if it were not for the corrupt authorities in both countries.
              2. ALABAY45
                ALABAY45 20 June 2016 20: 47
                0
                "... the inhabitants of Azerbaijan will only trust the Turkish peacekeepers ...."
                Someone gave me a minus when I said that Azerbaijan had sniffed the Turkish ass for a long time ?! It was not you ?! It was another, some Azerbaijani, "Well, somewhere there, high in the mountains, but not from our area ..."
                1. sever.56
                  sever.56 20 June 2016 21: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: ALABAY45
                  Someone gave me a minus when I said that Azerbaijan had sniffed the Turkish ass for a long time ?! It was not you ?! It was another, some Azerbaijani, "Well, somewhere there, high in the mountains, but not from our area ..."

                  Hi Sergey hi
                  You have no doubt, this is it, only not from the mountains, but from St. Petersburg !!! Ali ...
                  Look how he reacts nervously to my comments. According to him, Russia is to blame for almost all the troubles in the vast expanses of the former USSR, and Turkey is the modeled sidekick of all peoples trying to escape from the yoke of the despot-Russia.
                  Hardly sculpts me a minus, and I stick out from his powerlessness. When asked why he is such a "cool" patriot of Azerbaijan, he lives in St. Petersburg, he modestly kept silent, Probably shy ... lol lol lol
                  This is he, this is he, a very modest man ... lol
                  1. ALABAY45
                    ALABAY45 20 June 2016 21: 33
                    +1
                    Valera, hello! hi
                    Russia is "to blame" only because it is Russia! Pathetic ?! Yes! And, no need to hang around from his powerlessness ... I will make a "printout" of Ali's comments, show Hasan ... For twenty minutes, I will calmly stand in front of the counter of a vegetable shop (I have nowhere to rush-vacation) and listen to a mighty packet of idiomatic expressions and admire gesticulation of the vegetable seller ... In the end, I will run into an additional discount, treat me to smoked perch and, once again, offer to drive them fishing ... For some reason, he always refuses! Apparently, because his vegetable department works from 7 am to 23 pm ... This is not "Ali from St. Petersburg" for you .... wink
                    1. sever.56
                      sever.56 20 June 2016 21: 49
                      0
                      Sergey, good drinks
                      After all, there are good and kind people among all nations. In Murmansk, I also communicate well with Armenians, Azerbaijanis, and Georgians. Normal, friendly people, always happy to drink with each of them. There are other characters, whom I rigidly jerk in the transport, and in the store, and on the street. people around say thanks, and friends - Armenians, Georgians and Azerbaijanis say that these are devils, not representatives of their nation. Young, ill-bred - greyhounds, until you specifically explain his place, or you won’t give a dime. Fortunately (for them), in our North, they understand that you can’t endlessly - we’ll break our horns.
                      1. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: sever.56
                        and friends - Armenians, Georgians and Azerbaijanis say that they are devils, not representatives of their nation.

                        These are representatives of the nation, just bad.
                        Quote: sever.56
                        . Fortunately (for them), in our North, they understand that you can’t endlessly - we’ll break our horns.

                        This is fortunate for you, because there are quite a few good people who, without bringing to international ethnic hatred, calmly put everything on the shelves.
                        Fortunately, we have all the rules in St. Petersburg. We ourselves are pulling representatives of our blood if they begin to behave badly.
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                      1. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 20 June 2016 22: 01
                        0
                        "... in our North ..."
                        We have the same thing, although we are "equated" to the districts of the CS yes Maybe "years take their toll" ?! crying Hasan is under 60, Mihran next year, also -55 ... Well, who missed the young generation ?! All! Let's go get sick! Although.... am
                      2. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 20 June 2016 22: 29
                        +3
                        Valera! Sorry ... don't go to "get sick" No. Tomorrow, "Lisp Porcupine" will apologize to the "Russian people", will dismiss Slutsky, without clinking glasses, will clink glasses at Ignashevich and Berezutsky and, having shaken out beer caps from his trousers' pockets, will continue to fight for the "Olympic movement" ...! They say that Russia was banned " Durex "... But, no: rushing about the French lawns, funerals ... am No comments....
                      3. sever.56
                        sever.56 20 June 2016 22: 47
                        +2
                        And I will not be rooting for “footballers” such as Deyuba, Smolov and Berezutskikh-Dubovitsky, who show off their Maseratti and Porsche on the covers of glossy magazines, and do not fight on the field, like Yashin, Simonyan, Monday, Cherenkov and many other FOOTBALL PLAYERS of the USSR-RUSSIA ...
                      4. ALABAY45
                        ALABAY45 20 June 2016 22: 59
                        +1
                        "... do not fight on the field like Yashin, Simonyan, Monday, Cherenkov and many other FOOTBALL PLAYERS of the USSR ..."
                        And that's it! The point is at the end of the sentence, Valera! I don't really trust Wikipedia, but: "The official successor of the national teams of the Russian Empire, the RSFSR, the USSR and the CIS. The governing organization is the Russian Football Union. The highest achievement of the national team is the 3rd place shared with Turkey at the 2008 European Championship ...." Divided ", Karl! Like a marriage bed, their mother ...
              3. Yeraz
                Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 44
                0
                Quote: ALABAY45
                This, you are not "Ali from Peter"

                Hassan is probably not interested in fishing, for me the most useless activity in the world, given the result of most people who are fond of it. So to say, the efforts spent and the result are not comparable. Therefore, the entrepreneurial spirit of the Azerbaijanian rejects this is a little profitable activity. Everything is commonplace.
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 41
              +2
              Quote: sever.56
              Look how he reacts nervously to my comments.

              I answer reasonably. Maybe you're nervous ??
              Quote: sever.56
              According to him, Russia is to blame for almost all the troubles in the vast expanses of the former USSR,

              Well, it started. If it’s not white, then it’s necessarily black))))
              Quote: sever.56
              And Turkey is the modeled sidekick of all peoples trying to break free from the yoke of the despot-Russia.

              Do not ascribe to me what I did not say.
              Quote: sever.56
              Toughly sculpts me minus

              Evidence in the studio ?? Or the words to utter your inheritance ?? I basically do not put a minus.
              Quote: sever.56
              When asked why he is such a "cool" patriot of Azerbaijan, he lives in St. Petersburg, he modestly kept silent, Probably shy ...

              Answered above. Like all the other MILLIONS of times when I was asked this question on this site. For the past few years, but each time a new beginner.
              As local patriots calmly use Western technologies in all spheres of life and hate him fiercely, then why am I born here, a person who does not hate Russians and Russia, should be a patrite if I just stay in Azerbaijan ??? Or by registration, judge about patriotism ???
          3. Yeraz
            Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 36
            +1
            Quote: ALABAY45
            Someone put a minus to me when I said that Azerbaijan had sniffed a Turkish ass for a long time ?! It was not you ?!

            Ass there general TURKISH.
            And I basically do not put cons. Since this is nonsense.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 20 June 2016 21: 38
      +9
      Quote: Yeraz
      To free 7 regions around Karabakh the return of refugees there and to begin negotiations on Karabakh itself.

      Well, what's the matter then, dear Yeraz. It's easy to liberate 7 districts ..... from St. Petersburg, and wave a sword at VO, go and liberate 7 districts in Karabakh, and not on paper, I apologize for the harshness but you are sick of the "liberators" Karabakh, Donbass, you will make war, kill peaceful, innocent people, then bring down to Russia, do business, and Russia is to blame for everything, your presidents and ours are at least doing something, and not waving about 7 districts with sabers, they will talk, They will talk, maybe they will agree about something and about 7 districts too ... maybe. Cons are accepted, even if you don't mind before turning blue. am
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 51
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        It’s easy to liberate 7 districts ..... from St. Petersburg, but wave a saber at VO, go and free 7 districts in Karabakh, and not on paper, I apologize for the harshness

        There will be an order from Aliyev to start the war and the admission of volunteers there, I’ll go. In the meantime, even an ordinary Azerbaijani who does not serve in the army will not be allowed to enter there, not that I am a citizen of the Russian Federation.
        As grandfathers liberated the lands occupied by the occupier, I will do the same.

        And once again I say. I DON'T PUT MINUSES !!!
    3. Fhvty
      Fhvty 20 June 2016 22: 16
      0
      To liberate the 7 regions around Karabakh, the return of refugees there and begin negotiations on Karabakh itself. It is possible to trust 1-2 regions as a corridor with Armenia to control the Armenians.

      No, it won’t work, like this: Recognize the NKR, then begin negotiations with 5 regions with the NKR (not with Armenia). (forget about 7 and think) And then, if you behave well.
    4. kush62
      kush62 21 June 2016 04: 47
      0
      .Yeraz
      And only the Russian Federation and Turkey can be peacekeepers, since no one will trust other peacekeepers.


      kush62 Especially Turkish "peacekeepers". They are already creating peace in Syria, it remains to create in the Karabakh conflict.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 20 June 2016 19: 04
    +5
    Quote: Yeraz
    Empty and worthless news.
    You know better ... And if the conflict cannot be resolved peacefully, the freezing of the conflict is still a more positive thing than the hot phase of the war.
    Quote: Yeraz
    And then again the shelling.
    First, Azerbaijan’s great maneuvers, and then renewal of shelling is possible. Agree that the shelling during the putting into operation of such significant forces will be regarded in Karabakh and Yerevan as the most alarming signal. I just don’t understand why the timing of the exercises coincided with this trilateral meeting .. .Maybe this military demonstration will give more weight to your president during the negotiations? For me, it is so strange to count on progress with such trump cards.
    Moscow, June 19 - AiF-Moscow.
    The press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan reported that the Republic’s Armed Forces will conduct tactical exercises on the Karabakh front on June 19-24, which involve about 25 people, Interfax reports.
    “About 25 thousand military personnel, more than 300 units of tanks and armored combat vehicles, more than 100 units of missile and artillery installations, up to 40 units of military aviation and more than 30 air defense systems, connecting naval ships and special forces will be involved in the exercises,” in the message.
    The exercises will be held at training grounds in the frontline zone and the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic, as well as the Azerbaijani sector of the Caspian Sea.
    http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/azerbaydzhan_provedet_mnogotysyachnye_ucheniya_

    u_linii_karabahskogo_fronta

    Against the background of all this, Russia stands for stability in the region and seeks to maintain a strategic balance of forces:
    The main exam for the troops will be the Caucasus 2016 strategic command and staff exercisewhich will be held in September in the Southern, North Caucasian and Crimean federal districts.
    According to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, "against the background of a difficult international military-political situation during the exercise, it is important to assess our capabilities to protect national interests in the southwestern strategic direction."
    During the exercise, it is planned:
    check the real state of combat and mobilization readiness of troops and forces of the Southern Military District (Southeast Military District);
    to test new forms of application and methods of action of troops taking into account the modern experience of warfare.
    According to Colonel-General Alexander Galkin, commander of the troops of the South-Eastern Military District, the main attention will be paid to the interaction of the air, sea and land components of the interspecific group of forces, issues of mass transfer of personnel and equipment over long distances, and the actions of units in mountainous areas.

    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2621999
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 20 June 2016 19: 05
      +5
      P.S. did not fit ..
      P.S. I am sincerely sorry that Yerevan and Baku regard each other, only as an enemy. Nowadays it is customary to scold the USSR, but this was not the case with the advice. And even more, they fought together with one enemy. From childhood I remember the impression of admiration for the beauty of the Friendship of Peoples fountain "at VDNKh! You can call it propaganda and beautiful decoration, but we lived peacefully! I saw this fountain again with my wife a couple of years ago --- it was in some kind of desolation, the sculptures stand, and the water did not beat and the pool was dry, but at the bottom there is garbage from grocery packages and some kind of trade is nearby ... Maybe now Sobyanin has patched up, but I think the meaning is clear. Having got rid of the USSR, all the grievances were revealed and wherever they rumbled. And the risk of repetition is great. The West applauds standing such independence. ..
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 20 June 2016 19: 39
        0
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        I am sincerely sorry that Yerevan and Baku consider each other only as an enemy. Now it is customary to scold the USSR, but this was not the case with the advice. And even more, they fought together with one enemy

        This was an illusion that many inhabitants of the USSR of Russian blood did not want to understand.
        There was a hand of the NKVD, the omnipotent KGB and the Soviet army, so they all sat quietly.
        And they didn’t go singing along to kill the Germans, but those from the military enlistment office who didn’t understand the Russian language were brought to the front to fight the Germans. And many didn’t understand what the council was saying and what this German was. They learned Russian during the war. .And even until the 90s, many in the mountains and villages did not know the Russian language, only after being drafted into the army. Many did not have a unity of feeling with the USSR, they lived for themselves and that was all. since there were no real mounts.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 June 2016 19: 36
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      And if the conflict cannot be resolved peacefully, then freezing the conflict is still a more positive thing than the hot phase of the war.

      Freezing a conflict is a refusal to resolve it; therefore, it cannot be a positive thing.
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Maybe this military demonstration will give more weight to your president during the negotiations?

      Neither I nor you are sitting at that table. Therefore)))))
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      For me, it’s so strange to count on progress with such trump cards.

      Why? After the April events and the liberation of 800 hectares according to Armenian data, and 2000 hectares of land according to Azerbaijan, this can play a role.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 20 June 2016 21: 07
        +6
        "... Freezing a conflict is a refusal to resolve it ..."
        Are you suggesting "unfreeze" ?! Well, so that - once and for all! belay "With a limited peaceful atom in the area ?! My friend, in two weeks, 55 years! I will go to the Smak store (vegetable department) to buy vegetables and fruits for the table (from an Azerbaijani. Even peacekeeping units will not stop me)" prices and quality), a polite, friendly and clean seller, and, to the festive table, I intend to invite the deputy chief power engineer by the name of Poghosyan ... who has been living in Russia for 40 years! I should explain to him who I bought "fruits from “For my anniversary ?! What does Hasan have to do with me, and Mihran Poghosyan will have chilled vodka with me .... Neither one nor the other - I have no complaints! They are ADEQUATES !!!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 54
          +1
          Quote: ALABAY45
          Even the peacekeeping units will not stop me - prices and quality), a polite, friendly and clean seller, and I intend to invite the deputy chief power engineer by the name of Poghosyan to the festive table ... who has been living in Russia for 40 years! I should explain to him who I bought "fruits" for my anniversary ?! Hasan will give me a discount, and Mihran Poghosyan will have chilled vodka with me .... Neither one nor the other - I have no complaints! They are ADEQUATS !!!

          I’m shocking you. But the Armenians are sitting at our tables, we are inviting you to a birthday, there was an Armenian at my wedding. My hairdresser is an Armenian, an Armenian stylist and many others. I have no hatred for them. There are occupiers of Azerbaijani lands and the one who will be there opposite I stand with weapons, he and the enemy. I am not guided by emotions, but by my head.
  • Fhvty
    Fhvty 20 June 2016 20: 43
    +1
    It’s empty and worthless news. Every time you get bloated, and as a result, NOTHING.

    It is clear that you are not satisfied. Your Azerprop has already managed to hang noodles on your Turkish ears, saying that there is already a question of surrendering, or 2 districts, or 5 districts, they were already sitting, waiting, without even thinking: And with h-ra ...
    And here bam, figwam (home of the Indians of North America)
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 56
      0
      Quote: Fhvty
      It is clear that you are not satisfied. Your Azerprop has already managed to hang noodles on your Turkish ears, saying that there is already a question of surrendering, or 2 districts, or 5 districts, they were already sitting, waiting, without even thinking: And with h-ra ...

      I don’t know what to hang on your Armenian ears. But in the Azerbaijani segment, I saw little of this.
      I just say what I observe every time before the meeting, during and after. And every time the same thing. Therefore, NOTHING interesting. Blah blah last 20 odd years.
  • razmik72
    razmik72 20 June 2016 22: 24
    0
    Quote: Yeraz
    Quote: Army 2
    Great news!

    It’s empty and worthless news. Every time you get bloated, and as a result, NOTHING.
    Last time there was even more PR around this and nothing.
    And even before this meeting, Aliyev said that the occupying forces of Armenia should leave Karabakh. And Sargsyan said that it was necessary to solve only by peaceful means, that is, do not do anything for 100 years and that the conflict was frozen.
    Therefore, on-duty phrases will come out thanks to Russia for the desire to solve the problem. Substantial advances have been made in the matter of certain issues and negotiations will continue)))) In short, as always, the phrases are obratsny and that's all.
    And then again the shelling.

    Yeraz until the old elites step aside smile with you and with us, the Karabakh issue will not be resolved, I do not believe that the current presidents are able to resolve this issue.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 03: 58
      0
      Quote: razmik72
      Yeraz, until the old elites step aside in you and us, the Karabakh issue will not be resolved, I do not believe that the current presidents are capable of solving this issue.

      Well, you’re an optimist))) where will they go ??? They stuck. And here it’s not only the elites. External players are also not eager for the parties themselves to resolve the issue. The shooting of the Armenian parliament showed the seriousness of their intentions.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 20 June 2016 18: 58
    +4
    Quote: Army 2
    Both Armenia and Azerbaijan should remain strategic allies of Russia.


    Duc ... It doesn’t work somehow ...
    Firstly, the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia will not yield to each other a drop, not a iota, or an inch.
    Secondly, Armenia is our CSTO ally, but (!!) however, we are successfully selling weapons to Azerbaijan, and, basically, heavy ...
    So the Armenians will ask the question: "How to understand THIS?" ... And what, they have the right ...

    Russia doesn’t get into the solution of this issue - it’s bad, because this war is already quite annoying under the nose ... But to climb - you’ll have to take sides and make another enemy near by ...

    Situevina is a nasty ...
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 20 June 2016 21: 14
      0
      Quote: Yeraz
      This was an illusion that many inhabitants of the USSR of Russian blood did not want to understand.
      There was a hand of the NKVD, the all-powerful KGB and the Soviet army,so they sat quietly.

      So I am about the same !! I do not deny that the conflict between your peoples is long-standing and deep. I also say that:
      . Having got rid of the USSR opened up all insults and wherever it didn’t rumble
      The wounds were opened and bled. And what's wrong with the fact that the KGB stood guard over the state security and firmly nibbled discord? Did the "sinister KGB" deprive peoples of their identity, culture, development? I think not. And most importantly: the guns inside the country rumbled only during exercises ...
      You have a conflict with the Armenians, but we have a long-standing conflict with the Turks. And at the same time, you consider yourself to be Turks temporarily falling under the power of the Republic of Ingushetia, and then the USSR. A confusing tangle turns out.
      Say that you need to introduce Russian and Turkish peacekeepers. I don’t think it’s in our interests to let Ankara into this region. Throughout history, Turkey has looked predatoryly at the North, fought in good conscience. You can say that Turkey has the right to extend its influence to the states of the Caucasus. But as we see from history, we also have our great interest in this region. Therefore, Turkish peacekeepers will not receive such a mandate and will not be allowed to enter this land. This is already a question of OUR Russian security. History has given us such a mandate.
      Therefore, if you measure progress in resolving the Karabakh issue in the liberated hectares, then this is the wrong way .... because for you it is liberated land, for Armenians it has been seized, and for us it is a violation of silence and escalation of the conflict. Turkey may be neutral for this observe or establish with you military and all other contacts, but will not be allowed into the conflict zone.
      Quote: Yeraz
      Many didn’t have a unity of feeling with the USSR, they lived for themselves and that’s all. Well, there they are in charge of everything in Moscow. Therefore, this design quickly collapsed, since there were no real fixtures.
      Exactly what they lived, and did not arrange wars between the Union republics. It did not collapse because of the anchorages, but because the Center went off the roof. And if there had been a series of reforms, we would have lived on ourselves. But squandering sovereignty It was beneficial to many. And for this you can turn a blind eye to the horrors of violence.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 21 June 2016 04: 04
        0
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        You have a conflict with the Armenians, but we have a long-standing conflict with the Turks.

        don’t compare these things. The depth and degree of hatred are at a completely different level. And by the way, the Turks do not hate Russians as much as Russian Turks. Turks have historically hated Europeans hundreds of times.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Throughout history, Turkey has looked predatoryly at the North,

        Throughout history, Turkey has looked more to the West, and then to the East and North.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        I do not think it is in our interests to let Ankara into this region.

        This is your opinion, most residents of Azerbaijan think differently.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        but will not be allowed into the conflict zone.

        I said under what conditions. It is clear that Russia will not allow this, like Iran.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        It collapsed not because of the fixtures, but because the roof went off at the Center. And if we had carried out a number of reforms, we would have lived on ourselves

        Here, in principle, they are partly right. But the center did nothing and granted sovereignty to everyone.
  • svp67
    svp67 20 June 2016 18: 25
    +5
    Judging by the photo, the two conflicting sides are sitting at a safe distance, spitting will not reach ...
    Good luck in solving this VERY difficult task. At stake is people's lives.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 20 June 2016 18: 36
      +1
      And if you throw a glass ???? winked
  • Abbra
    Abbra 20 June 2016 18: 27
    +5
    Diplomacy is a delicate thing, I note to you, colleagues ... In any case, it is better to sit at such a table than to pour blood in vain.
    1. Safer
      Safer 20 June 2016 18: 32
      0
      I completely agree with you. But it would be good if there was real efficiency from this meeting. And now they are smiling at each other, and in a week Kerry will fly to Azerbaijan and like in that video "Misha, all *****, let's do it again!" And it is also clear where the legs originally grow from.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 20 June 2016 18: 57
        -6
        Safer! 18.32. There was an appeal, to His Excellency Mr. ... You catch it? Putin is recognized as a monarch. It remains from other Union republics to wait for petition. Apparently everyone is already fed up with democracy. So you look and the countries of Eastern Europe will want to become part of Russia. And there maybe the West is already ready to join the Russian Empire. And to Putin himself, in my opinion, all the tsarist symbolism impresses. Especially not breathing evenly on Peter's times. It feels like, in his opinion, Russia began with Peter the 1st. So Clintonsha is not right. Putin does not want to restore the Soviet Union, but the Tsarist Russian Empire. And if you're lucky, then the creation of the geo-union, South America, India, China, Russia. hi
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 20 June 2016 19: 13
          +4
          34 region, 18.57.
          The address "Your Excellency" was used when addressing the generals, the monarch was addressed "Your Majesty". At the same time, the monarchs communicated with each other on equal terms, and since Aliyev is equal in status to GDP, such an appeal is a recognition of the role of a vassal to the overlord (GDP).
          hi
          1. 34 region
            34 region 20 June 2016 19: 26
            -1
            Cheshire! 19.13. Thank you for clarification! hi
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 20 June 2016 18: 43
      -2
      Quote: Abbra
      Diplomacy is a delicate thing, I note to you, colleagues ... In any case, it is better to sit at such a table than to pour blood in vain.

      I agree. Many think either-or. Dead end. And there are options. Azerbaijan was once the province of Iran. Now we need the railway Iran-Russia. And who from whom will give greetings will remain behind closed doors.
      And maneuvers are clever. If the meeting again does not end with anything, in 1-2 days. then maneuvers can flow smoothly ... And Aliyev is all in white, he was not at home.
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 30
    0
    Meanwhile, just before the meeting in St. Petersburg in Azerbaijan, military exercises began.

    In Azerbaijan on June 19, large-scale tactical exercises begin, which will last until June 24, the Ministry of Defense of the republic said. “About 25 thousand military personnel, more than 300 units of tanks and armored combat vehicles, more than 100 units of missile and artillery installations, up to 40 units of military aviation and more than 30 air defense systems, connecting naval ships and special forces will be involved in the exercises”, - noted in the press service of the department.

    Maneuvers will be held at training grounds in the frontline zone and the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic, as well as in the Azerbaijani sector of the Caspian Sea. “The specifics of these exercises is that they will be conducted with widespread use of new technological means and weapons available in the armament, taking into account the strong defense system of the conditional enemy,” the press service said.

    Their main goals are to improve the skills of command of associations and formations in command and control of troops and combat systems, as well as to increase the level of combat coordination and interaction of combat elements in the difficult conditions of modern combined arms combat. Colonel General Zakir Hasanov, Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan, will lead the exercise, the Vestnik Kavkaza portal reports.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 20 June 2016 19: 03
      +3
      Quote: Yeraz
      And meanwhile, exactly before the meeting in St. Petersburg in Azerbaijan, military exercises began


      Um ... But Russia, as NATO, to us, should express concern about the conduct of exercises in Azerbaijan on its territory ??

      The situation is so banked, why should it once again escalate and become like the State Department?
    2. Fhvty
      Fhvty 20 June 2016 20: 51
      -2
      We know your teachings ...
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 41
    -6
    Aliev smiles, but these guys were given clear instructions that these are empty smiles, get ready for war.
    1. Fhvty
      Fhvty 20 June 2016 21: 00
      0
      Aliyev smiles, but these guys were given clear instructions,

      Here is the "rosary" on the fingers to twist.
      Why are their faces so dirty? Yes, and in different colors. One red, one green, is it for beauty or what?
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 21 June 2016 04: 06
        +2
        Quote: Fhvty
        Here is the "rosary" on the fingers to twist.

        screwed in early April to 2000 hectares.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 20 June 2016 18: 45
    +2
    Quote: Yeraz
    Last time there was even more PR around this and nothing.

    Actually, there wasn’t any public relations now. Quite dry short messages passed (regarding Savchenko, it is much longer and smeared). And the very fact of the meeting, no matter how it ends, is important. Once agreed to meet, then there is something to talk about, to look for solutions. Hope dies last...
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 June 2016 18: 52
      -1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Actually, there wasn’t any public relations now.

      this is in the Russian media. And in the Armenian and Azerbaijani there is a lot of PR.
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Once agreed to meet, then there is something to talk about, to look for solutions. Hope dies last...

      believe in the best.
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 20 June 2016 19: 02
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Actually, there wasn’t any public relations now. Quite dry short messages passed (regarding Savchenko, it is much longer and smeared). And the very fact of the meeting, no matter how it ends, is important. Once agreed to meet, then there is something to talk about, to look for solutions. Hope dies last...

      Competent commentary, namesake. Short and tactful. hi
  • RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 20 June 2016 18: 45
    +2
    I hope finally that the occupation of Azerbaijan’s lands will end, the refugees will return to their homes and peace will come on this long-suffering land and people will not die on that side. Just a little off topic, but still. 14 children died, 14 lives ended at the very beginning of the journey. However, no rallies were heard in support of Russia in the world, as was the case in France, they did not bring flowers to the Russian embassy in the west, they did not paint the Eiffel Tower in the colors of the Russian flag. The destruction of homosexuals in America made more noise. It is in such matters that the two-armedness of the West is manifested.
  • erased
    erased 20 June 2016 18: 49
    +2
    Peace and only peace! At the borders of the country and among neighbors, only peace is needed. But sometimes it is mined by war. But how this time - is not yet clear.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 20 June 2016 18: 52
    -1
    Somewhat in vain, the author called the beginning of the constructivist meeting ...

    A difficult, very difficult question, and Russia, as a justice of the peace and referee, can then get in the face from two sides (not physically, but morally: some will accuse the Russian Federation of supporting the other side) and remain guilty of this insoluble problem ...

    Russia does not need this protracted conflict and spirit ... But in order to achieve peace, someone must give in to someone ...

    But, if you take the presidents, you need to take into account their personal Asian-Caucasian-Middle Eastern mentality and aplomb ... Plus, if any of them succumb, the political establishment (fie, a word) and the people will raise it. .. There, between them, are the deaths of loved ones, destroyed settlements, refugees, and much more ...

    Such an option as with Chechnya in Russia (everyone supposedly forgot everything and pretend that everything around is magnificent) will not work ... Those people do not know how to forget blood ...

    And Russia - again - as between a rock and a hard place ... All the more so - recently the other batch of T-90 was sold to Azerbaijan ...

    It is unfortunate that all these conflicts arise against the backdrop of a stupid allotment of republics to territories ... Well, it was necessary - instead of a single Ossetia, get two - South and North ??? This NGO, too, grew up at the behest of officials who made decisions on securities without delving into the realities of life ...

    In general, none of them will yield. You don’t even have to hope.
    What should Russia do? And "Hto" knows him ...
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 20 June 2016 19: 07
    0
    A lasting peace will be established only when peacekeepers appear there, capable of enduring in a second any part that violates the truce. In another way, Asians do not reconcile.
  • Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 20 June 2016 19: 08
    +1
    Let us hope that the situation will finally be resolved peacefully. This smoldering conflict is dangerous and can negatively affect the future of the region as a whole. It is gratifying that it is Russia and Putin personally (I say sincerely, because I have never putinoid) that are the engines of the peacekeeping movement. Russia must again become the leading power in the vast future of the USSR, unite the peoples, the only way we can survive the coming meat grinder.
  • family tree
    family tree 20 June 2016 19: 12
    0
    And when these hot ones calm down already, why can’t you divide the Russian market, is there enough room for everyone or il sq km is not enough? So we have a bunch of them. On the same Yamal, work and live, the places are beautiful, by the way, one fishing is worth it.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 20 June 2016 19: 23
    +4
    as already wrote on this subject .. a poor world is always better than a good quarrel .. yes and sometimes a good neighbor .. better than a distant relative. (c)
  • Chisayna
    Chisayna 20 June 2016 19: 23
    -6
    You don't understand. Work? NO !!! Yesterday, at 22:46 pm. A real Moscow Armenian "Fhvty" wrote: the Armenians have such a mission, to spread culture and civilization around the world, including in Buryatia and Yakutia. President Vladimir understood this very well. Listen to the decree in the person Vladimir the Almighty, and do it and do not murmur. Here, and you work. What kind of work of cultures and cultures has to be borne, and this is a heavy burden.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 June 2016 20: 43
      -4
      Quote: Chisain
      Armenians have a mission to spread culture and civilization throughout the world.

      Well, looking at the Russian channels, they have long been densely spreading civilization in Russia.
      What many are surprised at here. Armenians consider themselves an exceptional nation, like others of course, but in terms of the spread of this exceptionalism they are in the forefront.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 20 June 2016 20: 54
        -3
        Yes, the comedy club, with Martirosyan and our rush, with Galustyan it is "the great Armenian culture-culture". By the way, I recently passed Turan, but I did not see a single Turk there. There are no minarets in Turan either. And this is not a great Turan, but a village.
        1. Fhvty
          Fhvty 20 June 2016 21: 27
          -2
          Yes, the comedy club, with Martirosyan and our rush, with Galustyan it is "the great Armenian culture-culture".

          And what's wrong with "Comedy Club" and "Nasha Russia" is very good, sharp humor. Whoever doesn't like it, looks at "Crooked Mirror" with Yevgeny Petrosyan.
          1. Chisayna
            Chisayna 20 June 2016 21: 41
            -6
            If "culture-cultures" in the form of a comedy club and our rush with clowns Martirosyan and Galustyan cause nausea, then a full house with an ancient pet (d) dew causes vomiting.
            1. Fhvty
              Fhvty 20 June 2016 22: 25
              +2
              If "culture-cultures" in the form of a comedy club and our rush with clowns Martirosyan and Galustyan cause nausea, then a full house with an ancient pet (d) dew causes vomiting.

              Yes, you have toxicosis along the way. then vomits then vomits. Are you pregnant for an hour? Well, we’ll check that it’s not going to vomit now ...
              1. Chisayna
                Chisayna 20 June 2016 22: 35
                -6
                "the real Moscow army (shka) n showed" great culture-cultures ". Okay, then be surprised that their" cultural-cultural "Turks didn't cut it. Someday the Turks will correct their mistake. Hurry.
                1. Fhvty
                  Fhvty 20 June 2016 23: 29
                  0
                  Turks undercut. Someday Turks will correct their mistake. Hurry.

                  Yes, you old man monster, maniac and bloodsucker ... ugh on you!
                  1. Chisayna
                    Chisayna 20 June 2016 23: 46
                    -2
                    Look how the "cultural-cultural Moscow army (sh) ku" is based.
                    1. Fhvty
                      Fhvty 21 June 2016 00: 24
                      +1
                      Look how the "cultural-cultural Moscow army (sh) ku" is based.

                      In short, Vasya, go sell greens in the market. You can fantasize and savor the theme of the murder of Armenian babies with your golden-tooth brethren. Just do not end each other in ecstasy when you represent the mountains of Armenian corpses.
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                      2. Fhvty
                        Fhvty 21 June 2016 02: 26
                        -1
                        I am equally indifferent to both the Armenian (sh) ki and the Azerbaijanis. Leave you alone. And fight to the last shepherd, I don't care. And why did the "culture-cultural Armenians (w) ki in Moscow forget the craft of their ancestors, why they do not graze sheep in their historical homeland. Ki can not be etched away by anything.

                      3. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 21 June 2016 04: 07
                        -2
                        Quote: Chisain
                        Leave you one on one. And fight to the last shepherd, I don't care

                        your words, but Putin’s ear. And Russia would become whiter ... sorry for people like you a little))
                      4. Chisayna
                        Chisayna 21 June 2016 04: 23
                        -1
                        By the way, I already wrote about Turan, I didn’t see the Turks in Turan. Minarets too. Yes, and Turan is not a great one, it’s a small village.
                      5. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 21 June 2016 13: 43
                        -1
                        Quote: Chisain
                        By the way, I already wrote about Turan, I didn’t see the Turks in Turan. Minarets too. Yes, and Turan is not a great one, it’s a small village.

                        I heard something about this village, but where is it and who lives there ???
                        In my relatives 3 with the name Turan.
  • Fhvty
    Fhvty 20 June 2016 21: 20
    -2
    Yesterday, at 22:46 pm. A real Moscow Armenian "Fhvty" wrote: the Armenians have a mission to spread culture and civilization around the world, including in Buryatia and Yakutia. President Vladimir understood this very well and understand. Listen to the decree in the person Vladimir almighty and obey and do not murmur

    Oh, I'm already quoted!)))
    -Listen, chsayna, where did you put Peter the Great? In my text, Peter was standing next to Vladimir. What's the matter, I ask !!!
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      1. Fhvty
        Fhvty 20 June 2016 21: 42
        -1
        Do not wag, do not wag. Answer why Peter removed from my text.
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 20 June 2016 19: 24
    +3
    For starters, they would have to find at least some common ground, decide what needs to be done not by the authorities of Armenia and Azerbaijan, but by the people, and from this they should not care.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 20 June 2016 19: 43
    +3
    God forbid, everything will be settled! War is not needed by anyone except the "star" of course, that's just that and give it!
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 20 June 2016 20: 06
    0
    This is strong ... no, so STRONGLY! If anyone has steel Coca-Moki, it’s Putin’s hi
  • 3vs
    3vs 20 June 2016 20: 13
    +4
    “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God” (Matt. 5, 9).
    I sincerely wish Uncle Vova to advance in the treatment of this chronic sore!
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  • sergey2017
    sergey2017 20 June 2016 20: 38
    0
    Quote: cniza
    This is a difficult question, but it must be resolved if all kinds of Erdogans from the USA did not climb, etc. then this problem can be solved.

    This is a very difficult question, because the essence of the conflict is rooted in history!
    In 1805, the Karabakh khanate was subordinated to the Russian Empire, and in 1813, according to the Gulistan peace treaty, Nagorno-Karabakh also became part of Russia. Then, according to the Turkmenchay Treaty and the agreement concluded in the city of Edirne, Armenians were resettled from Turkey and Iran and placed in the territories of Northern Azerbaijan, including in Karabakh. Thus, the population of these lands is mainly of Armenian origin.
    In 1918, the newly created Azerbaijan Democratic Republic gained control over Karabakh. Almost at the same time, the Republic of Armenia makes claims to this area, but the ADR does not recognize these claims. In 1921, the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh with the rights of broad autonomy is included in the composition of the Azerbaijan SSR. Two years later, Karabakh received the status of an autonomous region (NKAO).
  • old pioneer
    old pioneer 20 June 2016 21: 26
    +2
    In my memory, the Karabakh conflict arose under Gorbachev, not long before the earthquake - Spitak and Stepanokert were raking with his "golden" hands. I was holding the postcards with "Congratulations on the earthquake of Baku point." And then the Leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan agreed with the Soviet, then still, leadership. The conflict was frozen, because both sides got a good deal from the USSR, which was bent over from cheap oil and the arms race, and you are boiling in the Republics - It's like pubic lice - and you don't scratch on people, and prevents you from concentrating. There was no Karabakh when there was a batch in Chechnya. We understood that it was not up to them, and at least kill, at least over-ahayte each other - Moscow has something to "work" on without you. But now in St. Petersburg is TORG, because the conditions are suitable ...
  • atamankko
    atamankko 20 June 2016 22: 18
    0
    It’s difficult to stop the conflict, but it’s necessary
    it is grief, blood and tears on both sides.
  • bald
    bald 21 June 2016 00: 07
    +1
    Sorry, a dead room. East, as they say, is a delicate matter. You can only hold back. Time will heal.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 04: 09
      0
      Quote: bald
      Time will heal.

      Well, well, not one such problem, without a power version, could not be cured.
  • scrap123
    scrap123 21 June 2016 09: 02
    0
    There was a war, but there is a strong side and a weak side in the war, so it’s time not to stir up the water at the political level, but let the people decide for themselves and over time again mix the border ...
  • Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 21 June 2016 09: 45
    0
    Idiocy! I started reading comments and the first word that idiocy came to mind! You gentlemen, note 907 amendment prohibits the United States from selling weapons to Az-well. Az-en attacked in April because the United States wanted to create another outbreak near the borders of the Russian Federation)). Az-en attacked with Russian weapons and the United States is to blame when Turkey decided to sell self-propelled artillery to Az-en. Germany, which supplies engines for production under license, forbade it to Turkey. But the West is to blame for the conflict))) in short, if Russia really wants a solution to the conflict, let it put VETO on pro even arms of Az-well and Armenia will impose sanctions against both. Neither Turkey nor the US nor the Russian Federation are to blame for this conflict, the Az-ts and Armenians themselves are to blame. And Russia and Turkey simply receive dividends from the conflict and the only adequate position in this conflict in the USA.
    1. poquello
      poquello 21 June 2016 12: 52
      0
      Quote: Lek3338
      the only adequate position in this conflict is the United States

      is an adequate position expressed in the conviction of each side of the conflict that it is right? the last exacerbation coincided quite accidentally with the meeting of Aliyev and Kerry
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 21 June 2016 13: 46
        0
        Quote: poquello
        is an adequate position expressed in the conviction of each side of the conflict that it is right?

        No, the position is not to escalate the conflict. And you should solve all the world phrases only on duty. Russia says the same thing, arming the sides to the teeth. You have TOS-1 and TOS-1, only guys WE ARE FOR PEACEFUL DECISION !!!
        But the West is to blame)))
        1. poquello
          poquello 21 June 2016 23: 57
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          Quote: poquello
          is an adequate position expressed in the conviction of each side of the conflict that it is right?

          No, the position is not to escalate the conflict ....

          what is "no"? I stupidly ran through the news, Americans convince Baku of the integrity of the territories, Karabakh in the right to self-determination (independence), and what?
      2. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx 22 June 2016 03: 39
        +1
        An adequate position is expressed in the fact that it does not sell weapons to both parties! Despite the strong Armenian lobby, it does not occupy the Armenian side at the official level. And despite the fact that the senators in Baku rested at the expense of the Oil Company, they received valuable gifts, started investigations against them and didn’t take the Az side. The second part of the question I don’t want to answer at all, from the category of Kiselev’s detectives by chance? ? Sargsyan also met with Kerry on April 2, and so what?)), We will play Kiselev for his zombie audience ACCIDENTALLY?)) I say half of the commentators don’t know about the conflict ANYTHING zombie victim tv. When I wrote and argued with one person about the Russian media, they asked me a question where is the media bias? Are these idiotic questions, a better example is needed? In one program they show and say Aliyev met with Kerry and asked a question by chance. But these grief journalists do not ask a question in the same summit with Kerry met with Sargsyan. If you go by logic all the puppeteers of the zombies Baghdasarovs, Solovievs, Kiselevs. Then, to leave such a picture, Sargsyan and Aliyev both went to the summit and asked Uncle Som for permission to the war and then they fought and called Father Putin and reconciled, and said don’t listen to Uncle Sema, he’s bad))) That what Sargsyan met with Kerry accident, take the bar above))
        1. poquello
          poquello 22 June 2016 18: 54
          0
          Quote: Lek3338
          Sargsyan also met with Kerry on April 2, so what?)

          yes exactly what I wrote above
          americana
          Quote: poquello
          is an adequate position expressed in the conviction of each side of the conflict that it is right?

          stupidly pit two peoples
          they wrote enough about weapons here, it’s not a problem to buy weapons, they don’t roll a fig leaf for a peacemaker, if you don’t understand then
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 13: 50
      0
      Quote: Lek3338
      But the west is to blame for the conflict)))

      You can’t prove it. I’m living in Russia and probably since 08.08.2008/1/10, the West is to blame for everything, but Turkey last year. 2 out of XNUMX really sees the situation, XNUMX more are ready to listen to you and look at the situation differently. , the West is to blame and the dot. If you do not agree, they begin to live here))))) Just black or white.
      1. poquello
        poquello 22 June 2016 00: 18
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        Do not prove. I live in Russia and probably from 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX, the active driving into the head is to blame for the West

        080808 is not worth mentioning at all, Sakashvili was waiting for everything when American missiles arrive, it’s clear that a strange person, but such ideas do not come out of thin air
  • Ima tsoh
    Ima tsoh 21 June 2016 12: 58
    -1
    These republics, or rather these territories, rightfully belong to Russia. Local princes recreated from nothing to puff in front of the world trying to drive into the brains of the people that they were. The Armenians have this right more. And Azerbaijanis cling to created in the future temporary pieces of paper. In this situation, nothing will be decided until the true owner by the right of history and real agreements returns, the owner of these territories - RUSSIA. And it’s better for everyone that this happens without bloody massacres. It is the matter of time.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 13: 52
      0
      Quote: Ima tsoh
      and real agreements, the owner of these territories is RUSSIA. And it’s better for everyone that this happens without bloody massacres. It is the matter of time.

      ahahah)) Here are some people in Russia who will be glad to return these lands to their composition)) Some are already furious from 2 million Armenians and 3 million Azerbaijanis in the Russian Federation and from the North Caucasians, and you want to add the remaining 8 million))))
  • Shustov
    Shustov 21 June 2016 13: 52
    0
    That was the last time Azerbaijanis began to perceive themselves as great Turks, they can’t understand the world now, it’s not divided into nations, it is again divided into enemies and friends, and then foreign relatives appeared Turks and let's pour Azerbaijanis about family ties and at the same time quietly pulling them into the enemy camp, and this is not known that they are bred (they are smart only in the markets among drunkards of movers))).
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 21 June 2016 16: 49
      0
      Quote: Shustov
      That was the last time Azerbaijanis began to perceive themselves as great Turks,

      Azerbaijanis were Turks. What Stalin began to call differently from 37 is his problems.
      Quote: Shustov
      and then foreign relatives appeared Turks and let's pour Azerbaijanis about family ties and at the same time quietly pulling them into the enemy camp,

      They don’t pour-IT IS FACTS. When people in Azerbaijan called themselves Turks, Anatolian called themselves Ottomans. And rapprochement of one people is normal. As well as rapprochement of Belarus and Russia.
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