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The newspaper "Die Welt" about the war with the USSR

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The newspaper "Die Welt" about the war with the USSR



The closer the June 22 is to each year, the more often the largest German newspapers recall the war between fascist Germany and the Soviet Union. This year is no exception. In Germany, a series of commemorative events commemorating the next, 75, anniversary of the attack on the USSR began.

According to the Die Welt newspaper, the Union of German Journalists organized a press conference on June 16 in Berlin at which the President of the German National Union for the Care of War Graves, the Director of the German-Russian Museum located in the Karlshorst (Berlin) district and the manager of the affairs spoke German public organization "Sign of Repentance." In their speeches, the invited persons stressed that it was the war against the USSR that was conducted with the aim of exterminating the Slavic population, although Hitlerite Germany fought or was in a state of war with more than fifty countries. This was manifested in the attitude of the fascists to prisoners of war: if the British soldiers in captivity killed about 3 percent, then Soviet prisoners of war had a mortality rate of more than 50 percent. (By the way, there are people who claim that this happened because the Soviet Union did not sign the Geneva Convention. This is not true: the Soviet Union, without even signing the convention, observed its provisions regarding the maintenance of prisoners of war. Read the memoirs of former German prisoners, and you make sure that the entire war rations of a prisoner of war were more than those of Soviet citizens in the rear. What prevented the Nazis from doing the same? In my opinion, ideological, racial and class hatred. But try not to talk about it.)

At the conference, it was recognized as an error that in the 90-ies when creating a fund for the payment of compensation to those hijacked for forced labor in Nazi Germany, they did not equate former Soviet prisoners of war. But a year ago, the Bundestag decided to pay symbolic benefits to all the few who survived.

Currently, 3500 graves of Soviet citizens are registered in Germany. The most famous are large memorial complexes at the graves of warriors who fell in battle. But there are still 3100 burials made in urban and rural cemeteries throughout Germany. This should be an additional incentive to remember 22 June 1941 of the year. Speakers called for support of the initiative of some German parliamentarians to build in Berlin a monument to Soviet citizens who died in Nazi captivity.

So say the pacifists who condemn the crimes of the fascists against the Soviet citizens during the war. But they, literate educated people, condemn Russia for the "annexation" of the Crimea and the "invasion of Ukraine", and also approve of the possibility of sending Wehrmacht soldiers to the Baltic States so that the Balts feel more protected from the "Russian threat." Here is such, if I may say so, “dislocation” in the brain.

The editors of the newspaper Die Welt would change their principles if, having published an article about a press conference that spoke about the dead victims of Nazism, once again did not think about the reasons for the defeat in the war on the Eastern Front. After all, the newspaper regularly publishes materials on the Stalingrad battle, on the Kursk Bulge, etc., by some date. So with the date of the attack on the USSR - published an article with the headline "Blitzkrieg was supposed to compensate for the lack of weapons."

The analyst of the newspaper, having approved in general the plan of attack on the Soviet Union, stated that the plan did have one drawback - half of the troops were not prepared for a swift military campaign. It turns out that “those who plan a war should carefully prepare for it. On the training and supply of troops inevitably takes time, and a lot of time. And before the soldiers actually go to war, they need some more time to rest after the training course. ” And then 3,1 million soldiers were sent to the borders of the USSR, and half of them were not ready.

Hitler informed the high command of July 31 of the year on the decision to “get rid of” the Soviet Union. To provide the army with everything necessary was ordered by 1940 on April 30, since it was planned to launch an offensive operation in May.

In accordance with the plan, the size of the ground forces increased from 4,55 million to 5 million, the composition of the Air Force increased by 40% from 1,2 to 1,68 million, and the number of Navy personnel increased by 60% from 250 to 404 thousand. The strength of the SS troops tripled from 50 to 150 thousand people. However, although the necessary number of divisions was formed, but ...

According to the department of economy and armament of the headquarters of the Wehrmacht High Command, with the existing material and technical support of the troops, an attack on the USSR was not possible. For example, the industry produced just 10% 75 mm guns, although it was supposed to be the main weapons on the offensive. Moreover, from 1151, 904 guns were installed on tanks and assault self-propelled guns.

Only on 80% of the plan were shells made for 37 caliber guns, which were armed with tanks and some armored vehicles. Total shells of this caliber was 51% of the required number. In this regard, the tank units of the 19 infantry divisions were equipped with French guns caliber 47 mm. In total, the Wehrmacht received 823 guns, which turned out to be comparable in their qualities to German guns of 50 caliber mm.

Before the offensive, the Panzer units of the Wehrmacht had 979 Panzer III tanks and 444 Panzer IV tanks, as compared with May 1940, when they had "all" 349 and 278 tanks of both models, respectively. Due to the fact that the number of tank divisions almost doubled, the lack of equipment had to be compensated by the Czechoslovak tanks of the 35 and 38 models, which were comparable to the Panzer III, but were inferior in power to the Soviet T-34 tank. As a result, the entire Third Panzer Group, consisting of four tank and three motorized infantry divisions, was armed with Czechoslovak tanks. In addition, being on the front line of the front, this tank group had a sufficient number of tracked vehicles. All 26 divisions of the "first wave", which were to break through the enemy defenses and secured in the operational rear, were equipped to the maximum with German and Czechoslovak equipment.

The 45 divisions of the second, third and fourth “waves” already had half captured, and not only German, equipment — trucks, cars, and wheeled / tracked vehicles. And the majority of 56 divisions of the fifth "wave" had almost exclusively horse-drawn transport. The 15 divisions from the last 15 wave were considered as a reserve and were armed only with trophy equipment. (By the way, the Wehrmacht had 600 thousand cars and 2 million horses, and indeed from all over Europe they collected. The Red Army had 150 thousand cars and 1 million horses.)

In total, according to the German analyst, by the middle of June, the Wehrmacht had 3,1 million soldiers, 3648 tanks of all types and 20 thousand self-propelled units. According to various sources, the newspaper writes, there were from 2,8 to 3,3 million soldiers in the Red Army, from 11 to 15 thousand tanks and from 40 to 60 thousand SAU. (About the fact that the Red Army was dispersed from the western border to the Pacific Ocean, the analyst never took it into his head.) That is, the Wehrmacht did not have total superiority, but, as the German military historian RD wrote. Müller: “When the Wehrmacht 22-24 on June 1941 crossed the borders of the USSR, the military leadership was confident that, thanks to material superiority, it would be able to achieve success with its operational actions.”

Summing up, we can say that in the depths of our hearts the author of “Die Welt” regrets the poor preparation of the Wehrmacht (Hitler and the generals are to blame), that, despite operational actions, the “blitzkrieg” did not work. The Germans can write 27 million dead Soviet citizens and enormous destruction on our territory into their criminal "asset". But there is a well-known German who, I dare believe, sincerely stated: “Only remembering the events of 1941 of the year, one can understand the fears of Russia that surround it, even if these fears are irrational, and the world has changed since then” (Gerhard Schröder). And he added: “Germany should be careful not to lose its privileged partnership with Russia in the sphere of politics and economy”. As they say, these words would be, but the Germans in the ears.
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  1. Bath
    Bath 22 June 2016 09: 44
    -44%
    Let them repeat again, then free then we will visit Berlin
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 22 June 2016 09: 50
      +19
      Germany do not repeat the mistakes of the past ... Remember O. Bismarck, Hitler in the end .. Don’t anger Russia, for the joy (you know who ..) they want to play us again! hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 June 2016 10: 23
        +11
        Quote: Chariton
        Germany do not repeat the mistakes of the past ... Remember O. Bismarck, Hitler in the end .. Don’t anger Russia, for the joy (you know who ..) they want to play us again! hi



        And we do not need to repeat, therefore, to be always ready, then they will not climb.
        1. volot-voin
          volot-voin 22 June 2016 10: 29
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          And we do not need to repeat, therefore, to be always ready, then they will not climb.

          Yes, let them assess the risks. The prospects of getting an answer with the Russian nuclear club on the face will cool many hotheads.
        2. Khariton
          Khariton 22 June 2016 10: 30
          +7
          Quote: cniza
          Quote: Chariton
          Germany do not repeat the mistakes of the past ... Remember O. Bismarck, Hitler in the end .. Don’t anger Russia, for the joy (you know who ..) they want to play us again! hi


          And we do not need to repeat, therefore, to be always ready, then they will not climb.

          Yes, we’re not quite ready ... Our rear is weak! A lot of saboteurs ....
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          2. Pereira
            Pereira 22 June 2016 18: 32
            0
            That would be better.
            But there is still much work to be done.
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 11: 54
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          And we do not need to repeat, therefore, to be always ready, then they will not climb.

          Already climbing. Not Sun of course .. But staff members are used to raking in heat with the wrong hands. The Germans must clearly understand this!
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      3. 79807420129
        79807420129 22 June 2016 10: 25
        +13
        Quote: Chariton
        Germany do not repeat the mistakes of the past ... Remember O. Bismarck, Hitler in the end .. Don’t anger Russia, for the joy (you know who ..) they want to play us again! hi

        Germany so remembers the lessons of the past and does not want war, but it is being intensively pushed towards it from across the ocean, because through the fault of one labeled Judas we left eastern Europe and allowed us to destroy the Warsaw Treaty, a counterweight to NATO, but the occupation by the Anglo-Saxons did not go anywhere, not a single American or English soldier has left Germany; on the contrary, their number and the number of NATO bases are only growing.
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 22 June 2016 11: 25
        +6
        Khariton RU Today, 09:50 ↑
        Germany do not repeat the mistakes of the past ... Remember O. Bismarck, Hitler in the end .. Don’t anger Russia, for the joy (you know who ..) they want to play us again! hi

        100% want to play off! And the Germans are such cultural and peaceful cadres for the time being. And then, as always, there is another step from great culture to swinishness. Therefore, with whom, with whom and with the Germans, you should not play nobility. Every German should know how only havalo on Russia razinit. So immediately in this havalo "Yarsom" or whatever else will snatch it out. Tell it harshly. But with the Germans it is impossible to do otherwise. Let us recall on June 22, 1941, Nazi Germany treacherously attacked the USSR! Millions of lives were given away so that bring these civilizers into a feeling.
        1. your1970
          your1970 22 June 2016 12: 57
          +2
          "By the way, there are people who claim that this happened because the Soviet Union did not sign the Geneva Convention. This is not true: the Soviet Union, even without signing the convention, respected its provisions regarding the maintenance of prisoners of war."
          moreover, the countries that signed it (including Germany) were OBLIGED to abide by it, regardless of whether their adversary signed it or not.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 22 June 2016 09: 54
      +14
      Quote: Bath
      again free then in Berlin we will visit
      Sorry for the bloodthirsty, but this time Carthage Berlin must be destroyed. If seventy years ago the Germans did not realize that the greatest mercy was shown to Germany and the German nation on the part of the Soviet people.
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 22 June 2016 10: 10
        +19
        free then in Berlin we will visit
        ......... 27 million souls ruined is the price of a "freebie" ... sometimes it's better to chew than talk, and even better to think
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 June 2016 12: 03
        +2
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Sorry for the bloodthirsty, but this time Carthage Berlin must be destroyed.

        May Berlin not be destroyed! Berlin is just trying to once again substitute! We have already passed this. The main instigator and provocateur is sitting behind a puddle! am
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 22 June 2016 23: 23
          0
          Interestingly, is the museum in Karlhorst still functioning? Behind the museum building there were a lot of different military equipment, now probably no longer. Although Karlhorst was probably a wounded pride for the Germans, they would have signed the surrender of Germany there.
    3. Vend
      Vend 22 June 2016 10: 09
      +14
      Quote: Bath
      Let them repeat again, then free then we will visit Berlin

      A good freebie, 27 million dead on our part.
    4. Letun
      Letun 22 June 2016 10: 09
      +10
      Quote: Bath
      Let them repeat again, then free then we will visit Berlin

      Have uryakolok already completely withered? This "freebie" cost us 27 million lives and half of the country in ruins!
      I am amazed that people have only slogans instead of brains in their heads !!!
    5. Abbra
      Abbra 22 June 2016 10: 21
      +5
      I do not think that the opinions of my colleagues from VO, but personally speaking, on a global scale affect the international situation. And the world is hot and the light is approaching the powder keg. So to hell, one wonders, write such nonsense? Wise analysis? Yes! Fair remark? Yes! Humor with a certain amount of irony? Yes! Think about it at your leisure, BATHROOM ... In a sense, each of us represents a great country.
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    7. siberalt
      siberalt 22 June 2016 11: 26
      +3
      It’s not bad to remind the Germans about the Second World War, even in spite of the subtext. History has no subjunctive mood.
    8. Maksus
      Maksus 22 June 2016 11: 50
      +4
      Honestly, this nonsense about the fact that the USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention is already tired. Germany signed it, which means it was obliged to fulfill all its requirements, but did not fulfill it, or rather it did it selectively, dividing the prisoners into people and non-interim in advance. We, without signing, were not OBLIGATED anything, but carried out.

      And these theses about thousands of T-34s in June 41 are also tired. There weren't so many of them, the main tanks were still the ancient T-26 and BT. 34 and KV were few, and they were "weak" at first.
    9. vlad_vlad
      vlad_vlad 22 June 2016 12: 33
      +1
      author, sorry, but this is nonsense:
      "Summing up, we can say that deep down, the author of" Die Welt "regrets the poor preparation of the Wehrmacht (Hitler and the generals are to blame), that, despite the prompt action, the" blitzkrieg "did not work out."

      I have been living in Germany for many, many years and I can confirm: if there is a country in the world that has fully admitted its guilt in History and has actually drawn conclusions, it is Germany. The slightest hint of sympathy or "understanding" or "but if you look from this side ..." in the direction of fascism is suppressed in Germany not only by law, but also by the MOST of the population.

      And the newspaper "die Welt" - the mouthpiece of the left in Germany - can only be suspected of some kind of sympathy for the Nazis or revanchism, who understands Germany by 0 point fucking tenths of a percent.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 22 June 2016 23: 34
        0
        As a student, in the early 80s. He lived in Germany in Potsdam for five years. The Germans are great people, but I was always struck by one moment. How can one fall to complete barbarism in one moment? Namely, this regularly happens with cultural and civilized Germans. In 1941 All Germany supported Hitler together and considered the Slavs to be subhuman, worthy only of destruction. I don’t know how ordinary Germans are there, whom no one asks, but judging by foreign policy and the statements of German politicians, something brings Germany to the wrong place.
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    11. Rezident007
      Rezident007 22 June 2016 14: 04
      +3
      What do you want? Once every hundred years, Russia is attacked by the "civilized peoples" of Europe with allies ... However, the deadline is approaching soon ... But I just can't understand one thing - do they again believe that this time the Russians can be defeated? After all, they always snapped off in the end with escorting home. They would like to solve the Middle East and African problems in their countries - but no, they see the main enemy - RUSSIA. Russians are simply humane, unforgettable. I think if the Europeans defeated us, then they would give everyone fire and sword, like the Indians in America ... No one would give us mercy ... Russian fighters are merciless in battle, but after the battle, mercy played a cruel joke with winners ... They themselves start again, and then they will whine again (well, just like in a kindergarten). And most importantly, peaceful people and common people will suffer.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 June 2016 09: 45
    +2
    But there is a well-known German who, I dare to suppose, sincerely declared: “Only remembering the events of 1941, you can understand fears of Russiathat they surround her, even if these fears are irrational, and the world has changed since then ”(Gerhard Schroeder).
    hell with two, we are not "afraid", we are getting ready. To whom, if not the Germans, know that in any case, everyone who twitches against Russia will get a bite ... (recently the Inglians were shocked))) and how they taught "small blood, on foreign territory ")) - this time it worked.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 22 June 2016 11: 01
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      (recently Inglish rake)

      it would be better if the players were so broke :-)
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 22 June 2016 11: 23
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        (recently Inglish rake)

        it would be better if the players were so broke :-)

        a good option...
  3. Siberian
    Siberian 22 June 2016 09: 46
    +4
    This is not a big deal. Everybody counts and counts how many years have passed, but they still don’t understand that the more you beat us, the stronger We become, but after that do not blame us. We will fight and tear. angry
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 22 June 2016 10: 35
      +3
      Quote: Siberian
      This is not a big deal. Everybody counts and counts how many years have passed, but they still don’t understand that the more you beat us, the stronger We become, but after that do not blame us. We will fight and tear. angry

      At the same time and fellow travelers.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 June 2016 09: 46
    +3
    No matter how they are prepared, they would still be raked. And this is at the moment of the highest mobilization of the army and industry, with the ideology of fearless killers ... Now what should they count on? Geyropeytsam generally should not hope not only for victory, even for small acquisitions.
    1. 97110
      97110 22 June 2016 10: 30
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Now what should they count on?

      And they remember the advice of the mayor of chikashek (if I'm not lying). About to relax and have fun. Moreover, it is so tolerant, European.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 June 2016 09: 49
    +7
    deep down by Die Welt regrets about the poor preparation of the Wehrmacht (Hitler and the generals are to blame), that, despite the operational actions, the “blitzkrieg” did not work out

    And so I wanted both those in 41, and some of them, which history does not teach anything. Gorbachev was weak in spirit when he decided to withdraw our group of troops, relying on the West's "love" for itself - the "symbol of perestroika". It will be haunted for a long time.
    1. Bath
      Bath 22 June 2016 15: 54
      +2
      well, how weak is the spirit)))) he just then himself was preparing the best German of the year already
  6. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 June 2016 09: 50
    +8
    Speaking about the poor training of the troops of Nazi Germany, the facts of the idea of ​​a quick and rapid defeat of the Soviet troops were forgotten a bit, in view of their alleged weakness, believing that further seizure of land would be a matter of technology. And now, of course, you can argue retroactively that the training did not meet the requirements.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 June 2016 09: 52
    +4
    I look a fan of the Wehrmacht walked through all the comments, but did not express his opinion. What could fix it.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 22 June 2016 11: 18
      -2
      Wehrmacht lover ... Think what you write, the Wehrmacht is translated as the armed forces, i.e. Wehrmacht = armed forces
  8. Siberian
    Siberian 22 June 2016 09: 54
    +3
    I agree with you captain. Something ugly, and shit in the bushes.
    1. 97110
      97110 22 June 2016 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: Siberian
      Something ugly, and shit in the bushes.

      This is usually here. I’m not surprised anymore.
  9. cobalt
    cobalt 22 June 2016 09: 59
    +7
    What kind of analysts are there, where in the Red Army in 1941 there were 40-60 self-propelled guns, we started producing them in 000, there were few self-propelled guns based on the T-1942 and trucks, in fact, experimental batches. And the Wehrmacht did not have 26 self-propelled guns.
    1. 97110
      97110 22 June 2016 10: 34
      +2
      Quote: cobalt
      What kind of analysts are

      He also noted about 40-60 thousand. And the analysis algorithm is simple. Is there in the Wehrmacht? It must be multiplied by 2 or 3 and inserted into the text. Well, you don’t think that the readers of this newspaper were very indignant.
  10. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 22 June 2016 10: 03
    +2
    at heart, the author of "Die Welt" regrets the poor preparation of the Wehrmacht
    Wow, how sorry. Already today, wars have unleashed around the world. And then they will lose.
  11. HAM
    HAM 22 June 2016 10: 09
    +7
    In the Internet, I read an interesting dialogue between a German war veteran and his neo-Nazi grandson:
    - Grandfather, I will continue your work, reach the Siberia on a tank!
    - Grandson, it’s better to immediately buy a plane ticket to Siberia and bring the forest, which I did not finish captivity! Goals will be!
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 22 June 2016 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: HAM
      In the Internet, I read an interesting dialogue between a German war veteran and his neo-Nazi grandson:
      - Grandfather, I will continue your work, reach the Siberia on a tank!
      - Grandson, it’s better to immediately buy a plane ticket to Siberia and bring the forest, which I did not finish captivity! Goals will be!
  12. Foresterer
    Foresterer 22 June 2016 10: 11
    +12
    Let every such German know - I just won't give up my nearby forest and four rivers in the city, my dear grandfather made it to Berlin in the penal battalion, "For courage" he has, his uncle is a pilot, holder of the Order of the Red Banner, my aunt went through the war as a paramedic, more one aunt was a postman (I always wondered where the postman had the orders and stars from, before she died she admitted that she was a sniper) two grandfathers were missing, one number was marked with Auschwitz, mother and father were awarded "For Valiant Labor", in our family the Great Patriotic War is not an empty sound, and we are all in our native land, ours, Russian. Today we will remember all the fallen, sing our songs, and have a drink. They protected us, we will protect our land and our children. The Germans cannot understand this.
  13. guzik007
    guzik007 22 June 2016 10: 13
    +7
    Read the memoirs of former German prisoners of war, and you will see that there was more rations of prisoners of war throughout the war than Soviet citizens in the rear
    ------------------------------------------
    What is true is true. I remember that in the 90s I was struck by the comparison of the monthly ration of a captured German with a food basket of a Russian at the beginning of the 90s. The Germans were fed better!
    As for the minuses, I put one, for the proposal to bomb Berlin. Don't mix everything up. Germany seems to be the only country in Europe today where the memory of the war is sacredly honored and our cemeteries there are in perfect order, unlike the Jews of the "brothers-Slavs"
    1. 97110
      97110 22 June 2016 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: guzik007
      where sacredly honor the memory of the war

      You are very much inspired. Does not match the tone of the publication under discussion. Here they will trample Merkel from work, and they will be engaged in "holy memory". They will recount the raped, they will come up with something else - and remove the traces of our stay. They cannot be worse (better?) Than the Poles, not to mention the Baldon.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 22 June 2016 12: 47
        -1
        You were very inspired
        -----------------------------
        All crap voiced by a unit. And about the other, I served in the GDR and I am well acquainted with ordinary Germans, they are very friendly people and they treated us very well.
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 22 June 2016 10: 51
      +2
      Quote: guzik007
      Read the memoirs of former German prisoners of war, and you will see that there was more rations of prisoners of war throughout the war than Soviet citizens in the rear
      ------------------------------------------
      What is true is true. I remember that in the 90s I was struck by the comparison of the monthly ration of a captured German with a food basket of a Russian at the beginning of the 90s. The Germans were fed better!
      As for the minuses, I put one, for the proposal to bomb Berlin. Don't mix everything up. Germany seems to be the only country in Europe today where the memory of the war is sacredly honored and our cemeteries there are in perfect order, unlike the Jews of the "brothers-Slavs"

      The other day I read Colonel Steidle’s memoirs about the Stalingrad Cauldron, they didn’t touch their torment and suffering while reading a book and thought that they would burn in hell. The Red Army taught them a good lesson. But this colonel, however, understood that it was better not to do with the USSR contacted. Later became Minister of Health of the GDR.
  14. volodya
    volodya 22 June 2016 10: 13
    +3
    Many still want to try us for a tooth.
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  16. Dr. Vlado
    Dr. Vlado 22 June 2016 10: 18
    +3
    This, for us, the Great Patriotic War, neither the Germans, nor all other Europeans (just the World War for them) taught anything! They cannot understand us Russians! They don’t care what kind of master (their or German) to bend your back — for a Russian it’s better to die, but the enemy will not trample our lands! Use our women (we’re better of them)! Send our children, mothers to the gallows!
    1. 97110
      97110 22 June 2016 10: 43
      +1
      Quote: Dr. Vlado
      (better we are)

      Doctor, what a perversion. Have you seen a German close? And when do they attack with a group?
  17. revnagan
    revnagan 22 June 2016 10: 21
    +1
    "... from 40 to 60 thousand ACS ..." WHERE DOES THE RKKA HAVE 40 thousand ACS? In 1941!? According to the Geneva Convention, and after its signing, the Hague was no longer in force? And yes, Germany SIGNED By doing so, she voluntarily assumed the obligation to fulfill it. In general, the Fritzes waged a war of destruction. It is a pity that they did not receive it in full.
  18. wandlitz
    wandlitz 22 June 2016 10: 21
    +2
    If some Germans still believe that the German attack on the USSR was a mistake due to poor preparation for military operations, and not a crime, then it looks like they are going to unleash the 3 World ...
  19. Toropov
    Toropov 22 June 2016 10: 27
    +4
    Let everyone condemn me, but for our big family a good German is a dead German. There is no forgiveness for their atrocities. The Germans still do not understand that we need to live our lives. We do not change the soul for gold.
  20. iouris
    iouris 22 June 2016 10: 28
    +1
    History teaches that it teaches nothing.
    Every war ends in peace. The world marks the beginning of preparations for a new war in which past mistakes will be taken into account and corrected, but new mistakes will be made.
  21. Aleksander
    Aleksander 22 June 2016 10: 30
    +1
    By the way, there are people who claim that this happened because the Soviet Union did not sign the Geneva Convention.

    It did not play any role: according to this Convention, the states that signed it took TO MYSELF obligations to ensure the rights of ALL prisoners of war, and not exchanged obligations between signatories. Germany signed, but failed to fulfill (or rather, selectively).
    In total, according to a German analyst, by mid-June there were 3,1 million soldiers in the Wehrmacht

    I think that more, in addition, there were still satellites in Germany.
    And then 3,1 million soldiers were sent to the borders of the USSR, and half of them was not ready.

    They are not ready, we are not ready ... But if they have achieved such stunning successes, then HOW were we not ready?

    But in general, it was necessary to divide Germany into many small states and, in any case, not to allow the annexation of the GDR (here are violators of the Helsinki Agreements!)
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 June 2016 10: 39
    +2
    If it happens again, then Europe must be burned to the glass.
    Because Europeans don’t stop climbing towards us,
    be it Germans, Poles or Swedes.
  23. masiya
    masiya 22 June 2016 10: 50
    0
    Then the news flashed that like 2035 we’ll master teleportation, then there’s sure to be a Lafa and large installations will appear then it will be possible to take for example Washington and teleport to Mars, let them master and carry democracy through the Solar System ...
  24. K-50
    K-50 22 June 2016 10: 55
    +1
    It turns out, “the one who plans the war should prepare very carefully for it. Training and supplying troops inevitably takes time, and a lot of time. And before the soldiers actually go to war, they need some more time to rest after the training course. ” And here 3,1 million soldiers were sent to the borders of the USSR, and half of them were not ready.

    Strange.
    And that the conquest of all the geyrops did not go for training. They trained for two whole years and everything is not enough? belay
    Well stupid !!!!! laughing
  25. gamer
    gamer 22 June 2016 10: 56
    +2
    at heart, the author of Die Welt regrets the poor preparation of the Wehrmacht! Of course, you will forgive me, but I do not believe that Germany repented of their crimes! They deeply regret that they lost the war!
  26. JonnyT
    JonnyT 22 June 2016 11: 25
    +1
    I remember reading Remarch's novel All Quiet on the Western Front, where he described how young people and adults staged rallies in support of the war, enthusiastically dreaming of greatness. Then the First World War broke out, which interrupted the patriots, and those who survived and returned home with changed views, soon again faced the fact that young people were once again being prepared for war, for revenge. Now the situation is very similar ....... The Germans still remember, but their society is increasingly aggressively promoting the war again, now for protection from the Russians and revenge


    Germans unleashed 2 world wars, they will soon climb into 3, this is an alarming trend
  27. Erg
    Erg 22 June 2016 11: 36
    -2
    I think no war will be. No. At least in the VO format. Why do they need this? Our finances are completely controlled by them, huge Western assets are placed ... Just logic.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 22 June 2016 12: 11
      0
      Quote: Erg
      I think no war will be. No. At least in the VO format. Why do they need this? Our finances are completely controlled by them, huge Western assets are placed ... Just logic.

      So we can take away ..? Logically and in fact we owe a lot of money (and to other nations of the world) Even legally ..!
      This time you need to select everything ..! Huge debts and impudence begin again ... (well, and have to shoot ..!) bully
      1. Erg
        Erg 22 June 2016 12: 31
        0
        No, friend, we are specifically stuck, unfortunately. There are two ways - either to close (with dictatorship), which is unlikely to allow us, or a long path of reform, while praying for our leader, hoping that He works for a happy future for the country ... hi
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 22 June 2016 12: 11
    0
    for the edification of posterity: "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten" ...
  29. silver_roman
    silver_roman 22 June 2016 12: 13
    -3
    I spit on their pseudo sympathy, sorrow and regret. I do not accept such vile hypocrisy.
    I just do not understand the eternally altruism of our managers: why do we always behave so humanely with prisoners, the population of enemy countries? Maybe it was worth making so that the enemy, from the very thought of the Second World War, was pissed off like the last "female dog" ?! That will exterminate 60 percent of the population. I wanted to spit on all of them: their men and women, children and old people. The old men who were against us during the Second World War killed our children in World War I. For me, 1 Soviet child is dearer than thousands of fascist (German) children. And then they figured out that they say we are Germans, and then they were fascists. We were just afraid of them, but at heart we are nyash-myash. Ugh ... go to hell, fascist cattle.
    DO NOT forget about this never and every year hold parades of victory, a truly great and suffering victory !!!
    1. gudgeon
      gudgeon 22 June 2016 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: silver_roman
      That exterminate 60 percent of the population. I wanted to spit on all of them: their men and women, children and the elderly.

      Will you do everything yourself or assign it to someone?
      So you can, avenger couch?
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 22 June 2016 15: 45
        +1
        I will not say that I can or not. But when I understand the figure of 26 million killed our people, sometimes it seems that I can.
        But I did not fight, I did not lose my relatives and friends.
        And what's the point of your picture? anyone can google, the same to me, a fighter for justice.
        1. gudgeon
          gudgeon 22 June 2016 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: silver_roman
          But I did not fight, I did not lose my relatives and friends.

          Well, sit "straight", "fighter for justice" ... And then in the first post: "to exterminate, destroy children, women and the elderly ... I wanted to spit ...". As before personal participation: "I will not argue", "sometimes it seems" ... You run like a candy wrapper. Go ahead! You are a ruthless avenger to women, children and the elderly!
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 22 June 2016 16: 14
            -1
            Quote: gudgeon
            Well, sit "straight"

            or maybe you won’t indicate what should I do? apparently people like you do not teach.
            I just didn’t understand that something really touched you like that? darling then what trembles? you would rather than drool at the monitor to splash. explained your position, otherwise the conversation is about nothing.
            I said my opinion, do not like it, go by. He justified his position.
            Of course I will not approve, but who will you be for an hour? or another "retired colonel"?
            1. gudgeon
              gudgeon 22 June 2016 16: 38
              +1
              Quote: silver_roman
              I just didn’t understand that something really touched you like that?

              "Touched" by the merciless fury of the keyboard avenger, who easily commands others to "exterminate women, old people and children." Your "combat feats" of Counter-Strike are probably limited to? They never shot at a living person.
              Quote: silver_roman
              you would dribble than drool in the monitor

              Well, I’m talking about the same thing, you are our brave man, don’t have to drool over your monitor, arms in your hands, and to exterminate all those whom you have listed. Russia has not a few enemies, all have children, fathers, mothers. You will have enough work for a long time.
              Quote: silver_roman
              and who will you be? or another "retired colonel"

              Nope ... Lieutenant Colonel. Does it bother you?
              1. silver_roman
                silver_roman 22 June 2016 22: 12
                -1
                Quote: gudgeon
                Touched by the "merciless fury of the keyboard avenger, who easily commands others to" exterminate women, old people and children "

                let's say so as not to offend your subtle perception: I would be glad to take any measures that allowed the enemies of the Russian Federation to attack a hundred times before thinking. And what else can help in this no matter how very great fear of the consequences ?! And what can inspire this fear? USSR flag over the Reichstag or demolition from the face of Dresden? Here you tell me, lieutenant colonel?
                I am fully aware that this is a terrible thing, like the murder of old people, women and children, but if it would help us not to lose millions of people in the future defending our Motherland, I am FOR. And as you subtly, did NOT notice, I did not exclusively offer my services in this. Probably one person will not have enough life for this. But if I had a "red button", I would have pressed. Unfortunately, our people are too humane .... So we pay for this with our lives, but we are deceived all over history, they stage palace coups, kill people and then rewrite history.
                Quote: gudgeon
                Nope ... Lieutenant Colonel

                Where did you serve? in which troops? interesting!!!!!
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 June 2016 17: 00
    +1
    Well, well, the memory became bad. It’s nothing, sometimes the lessons of history are repeated, but they are very expensive. Maybe better not?
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  31. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 22 June 2016 17: 26
    +2
    Quote: Letun
    Quote: Bath
    Let them repeat again, then free then we will visit Berlin

    Have uryakolok already completely withered? This "freebie" cost us 27 million lives and half of the country in ruins!
    I am amazed that people have only slogans instead of brains in their heads !!!

    And here I am amazed how you boldly hang labels on people, and constantly specially walked over your previously written comments. Tell me, dear, you must have been offended in childhood?