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Syrian officer on T-90 (video)

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T-90 is the best a tank in the world, “may God preserve his constructor,” leads Federal Agency News words of the commander of the combat vehicle Lieutenant "Mowgli".




“Lieutenant Mowgli (we don’t call the real name of the officer) did not call himself such a call sign: in war, everyone has his quirks, and this fighter always goes barefoot on principle. Even in the heat in + 45, when the asphalt warms up to 60-70 degrees. A man can be envied by many yogis, ”says the agency’s correspondent.

“It really helps to feel the car, its every movement. I was also a mechanic driver (driver-mechanic), I know how to work with a turret (shooter in the tower), and recently became the commander of this excellent tank, but the Almighty keeps him as a designer, ”the lieutenant said. (Unfortunately, Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin, the chief designer of T-90, died of a heart attack right behind the desk in 1999. He was just 61 a year).

“The T-90 tank is considered the best main battle tank in the world. This is a symbol of Russia's progress. It possesses powerful anti-tank complexes, it has great maneuverability, good resistance to anti-tank systems (anti-tank guided missiles). The tank is able to defend itself in an automatic mode, interfere with enemy lasers. It is ideal for our deserts, the T-90 is maneuverable, fast and passable ",
continued the "Mowgli."

According to him, "T-90 showed itself better than anyone, including in the battle with the" Abrams "," which are available to the terrorists.

“Militants are very well armed. The West supplies them with modern anti-tank systems. They use against us the Russian "Cornets" and "Competitions", American TOW, as well as self-made weapon"- added tankman.

He is confident that it is T-90 that will help the government forces end the war. “But please, they need more,” the lieutenant asks. - And we need our crews to master this super-weapon. So we will quickly free Raqqa. ”

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  1. Professor
    Professor 20 June 2016 13: 50
    -255%
    According to him, “T-90 proved to be the best, including in the battle with "Abrams" "that are available to terrorists.

    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    “The militants are very well armed. The West supplies them with modern anti-tank systems. They use Russian "Cornets" and "Contests", American TOWs, as well as improvised weapons against us, ”added the tanker.

    Tou modern? Oh well.
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS 20 June 2016 13: 56
      +162
      Quote: Professor
      Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

      Iraqi Prime Minister Al-Abadi admitted that a year ago, during the seizure of the city of Mosul, ISIS fighters recaptured more than two thousand American army ATVs from the Iraqi army. A statement came a few weeks after the Pentagon announced extremist capture in Iraq of Abrams tanks. Jihadists have already mastered the captured technique and are transferring it to Syria.
      Last year, ISIS defeated the 4th Panzer Division of the Iraqi Army and took Mosul, after which, according to unverified information, it became the proud owner of the following arsenal:

      40 M1A1 Abrams tanks worth $ 4.3 million apiece
      1. Professor
        Professor 20 June 2016 13: 59
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        A statement came a few weeks after the Pentagon announced the seizure of Abrams tanks by extremists in Iraq.

        So what? The Abrams, even in the hands of the Iraqi Hezbollah, have shone more than once, but this does not mean that the Abrams entered the battle with the T-90. Where are the evidence? request

        PS
        Yes, you are the face of this rascal officer look at how he walks barefoot and everything about him will become clear to you.
        Technique in the hands of a savage ...
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          1. Professor
            Professor 20 June 2016 14: 11
            -101%
            Quote: Observer 33
            There are no evidence. But you will sleep badly today

            So discuss the words of this not washed and not shaved Mowgli. He will not tell you such a thing. wassat

            Quote: Observer 33
            Arab praises the Russian tank! Like a sickle in Jewish I ... tsam!
            Abnormally yes? Already the first comment, not in patience?

            Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up. And about the comment, when I read it then and answered.

            Quote: Safer
            And for them everything that Russian is bad.

            Do you have hallucinations? Where did I write this? fool
            1. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 20 June 2016 14: 18
              +140
              Quote: Professor
              So discuss the words of this not washed and not shaved Mowgli. He will not tell you such a thing.

              What for? At the moment, watching you is much more interesting.
              Quote: Professor
              The best anti-advertising is not to come up.

              And for me, it’s anti-advertising, it’s military equipment in pavilions, surrounded by "jackets", and spotlights. Like the F 35, remember? winked And you can call busty models, and cover with glossy varnish, shaub shone laughing
              1. Are
                Are 21 June 2016 02: 44
                +16
                Why do we need to varnish models ??? wassat
              2. Alexey-74
                Alexey-74 21 June 2016 09: 46
                +5
                all right, the technique manifests itself only in battles .... in all other cases, this is advertising.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 20 June 2016 14: 25
              +146
              Quote: Professor
              Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up.

              Quote: Professor
              Yes, you look at the physiognomy of this ragged officer, how he walks barefoot and everything about him will become clear to you.

              You, dear, fight for 5 years against half of the world, and then I would like to see how you would look. This "ragamuffin" of your ten warriors is worth it. And the point is not in praising our T-90 (and so we know that neither Abrams, he is not inferior to the Leopard at least), but in the fact that behind this "ragamuffin" is a combat practice and skill that will not be given in any school.
              1. Professor
                Professor 20 June 2016 14: 28
                +1
                Usually we have one of our exchanges on 1000 such. We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS. hi
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 20 June 2016 14: 32
                  +144
                  Quote: Professor
                  We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS.

                  But is there a full-scale war going on in your land where everyone is getting lazy? Are you not fighting ISIS, which has captured two-thirds of your country, sponsored by the USA, Turkey and the Saudis ... and what’s going on at your borders is not a war, but a clash. As for the suicide bombers, they are in any state like dogs not cut.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 June 2016 17: 45
                    +1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    But is there a full-scale war going on in your land where everyone is climbing?

                    My grandfather fought in WWII for more than 4 years, but neither he nor his fellow soldiers looked like this savage.

                    There is a permanent war in Israel with the same bearded men as in ISIS, but our officers do not look like Mowgli.

                    Quote: Andrey K
                    You mean those "officers" who staged the massacre in the Palestinian refugee camps "Sabra" and "Shatila"?

                    You know better since the massacre was carried out by Christians.

                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Colleague, do not distort or exaggerate. There are officers in the IDF, and there are also war criminals, polished, not "ragamuffins" - whom the gallows, at another time, would have been waiting for

                    Are you talking about Chechnya or about Tzahal? I have lost the thread of your thoughts.

                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Let's not get personal, you yourself know how poop can be remembered in such a way that gloss does not help

                    Are you offended by me that I, and not you, as usual noted in the topic? Do not be angry. This is pure chance.

                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Closer to the subject: "A Syrian officer about the T-90 (video)"

                    I did not see the officer there. Mowgli (in the truest sense of the word) examined, but no officer. request
                    1. Nightrain
                      Nightrain 20 June 2016 22: 18
                      +3
                      My grandfather fought in WWII for more than 4 years, but neither he nor his fellow soldiers looked like this savage.

                      There is a permanent war in Israel with the same bearded men as in ISIS, but our officers do not look like Mowgli.

                      That rare case when I cannot but agree with the professor. Indeed, Israel has fought all the last half a century with such professional savages. If such "specialists" are imprisoned in the T-90 in relatively developed and literate Syria (compared to its Arab neighbors), then what can we say about the rest. But Mowgli all the same respect! For the desire to fight.
                      1. Idiot
                        Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 44
                        +5
                        Quote: NightRain
                        But Mowgli anyway respect! For the desire to fight.


                        This Mowgli, I think so, and others like him, will also show "Kuz'kin's mother" to the one who needs it and where it needs it ...
                    2. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 20 June 2016 23: 04
                      +38
                      Quote: Professor

                      You know better since the massacre was carried out by Christians.

                      It makes no difference to me what faith the Israelis massacred: these are war criminals - executioners negative

                      Quote: Professor
                      Are you talking about Chechnya or about Tzahal? I have lost the thread of your thoughts.

                      Did I post something about Chechnya in this post? You find your thread of thoughts request

                      Quote: Professor

                      Are you offended by me that I, and not you, as usual noted in the topic? Do not be angry. This is pure chance.

                      Professor, I am retired. And in civilian life, I have a secretary - she follows my schedule, where I checked in, where not. She will get angry with you laughing
                      Quote: Professor
                      I did not see the officer there. Mowgli (in the truest sense of the word) examined, but no officer. request

                      Do not believe it, it doesn’t matter to you your (and mine too) opinion ... He does his job, whether he is Mowgli or not, he cleans his land from shaitans. Honor and praise be to him good
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 21 June 2016 07: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        It makes no difference to me what faith the Israelis massacred: these are war criminals - executioners

                        one hundred%. These are war criminals. However, I hasten to upset you - they were Lebanese.

                        Quote: Andrey K
                        Did I post something about Chechnya in this post? You find your thread of thoughts

                        You started military trips. I thought you were about Chechnya. request

                        Quote: Andrey K
                        Do not believe it, it doesn’t matter to you your (and mine too) opinion ... He does his job, whether he is Mowgli or not, he cleans his land from shaitans. Honor and praise be to him

                        You and most of the people here have not seen Arab officers. Arabs' officers are a caste. These are people who do not sit next to soldiers with a meal. They can not go to a military school and become an officer. So this savage is never an officer. That is, in general.
                      2. Schulz
                        Schulz 21 June 2016 07: 55
                        +15
                        Quote: Professor

                        You and most of the people here have not seen Arab officers. Arabs' officers are a caste. These are people who do not sit next to soldiers with a meal. They can not go to a military school and become an officer. So this savage is never an officer. That is, in general.

                        Let's try for a second to imagine what would happen if the plot and article were left as they were but with one small correction - replace the name of the tank.
                        That same (straightforwardly) the same person speaks the entire word for word, but speaks in enthusiastic form not about the T-90, but, say, about Abrams.
                        Submitted?
                      3. Dali
                        Dali 21 June 2016 17: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: Schulz
                        Submitted?

                        Eso ... from the sparkle my eyes almost blinded ... (chur me, chur me, chur me laughing )
                      4. Foxmara
                        Foxmara 22 June 2016 05: 48
                        +4
                        Quote: Schulz
                        but it speaks in enthusiastic form not about the T-90, but, say, about Abrams.

                        For the Professor, write about Merkava. The Israelis wanted to sneeze at everything else.)
                      5. VIA_56
                        VIA_56 22 June 2016 19: 45
                        +6
                        I can’t understand: why did everyone here begin to discuss the question - what does this officer look like?
                        Where is it said that he is an officer? Actually, in the Second World War, junior sergeants were also tank commanders! They were trained in accelerated courses for junior command personnel. And everyone rested on the appearance of this "officer"? Amazing. Yes, he is taller than any of the officers - he is a warrior with a huge practice of warfare. Respect for this. And not for the habit of walking barefoot.
                      6. alexmach
                        alexmach 23 June 2016 01: 15
                        +3
                        I can’t understand: why did everyone here begin to discuss the question - what does this officer look like?


                        Well, it doesn’t matter to you what it looks like, but for our former compatriot this is an occasion to pour a bucket of slops on it, this is the third reason. The first reason is that he is an Arab (fascism in our world is allowed to Jews as anyone else). Well, the second most important reason that he does not praise the Israeli and the Russian tank.
                  2. guzik007
                    guzik007 21 June 2016 09: 02
                    +9
                    Professor! I’m scared to watch you commit suicide on the forum: =) But your adherence to principle impresses me.
                  3. Idiot
                    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 06
                    +12
                    Quote: guzik007
                    But your adherence to principle impresses me.


                    This is not a principle. Its' his job. He will then receive a denyuzhku for the amount of our emotions. The best way to communicate with the Professor is to give him the facts that he requires, but the facts are undeniable. and demand facts from him, for his every word. And you will see - it will merge ...
                  4. Professor
                    Professor 21 June 2016 21: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: pft, fkb
                    Quote: guzik007
                    But your adherence to principle impresses me.


                    This is not a principle. Its' his job. He will then receive a denyuzhku for the amount of our emotions. The best way to communicate with the Professor is to give him the facts that he requires, but the facts are undeniable. and demand facts from him, for his every word. And you will see - it will merge ...

                    one hundred%. I will merge. Only now, no one cited the facts. And by the way, where can I get denyuzhku for my work? wink
                  5. Idiot
                    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 21
                    +7
                    You also do not indulge us with facts today. The evening is getting languid. And about denyuzhki: when you earn - the West will help you ...
                  6. andj61
                    andj61 21 June 2016 22: 54
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor
                    one hundred%. I will merge. Only now, no one cited the facts. And by the way, where can I get denyuzhku for my work?

                    So, Jews and Russia sold ... bully hi
                    However, for some reason no one received money for this either! repeat
                    Some kind of strange trade is obtained. request
                  7. Ustinov 055 055
                    Ustinov 055 055 24 June 2016 15: 39
                    +1
                    What facts to give, that the Jews are cleaner than the Nazis brethren. So you like the Arabs. They gave you land in the middle of the 20th century so keep quiet in a rag. But there will be no polites to breed, push their foreheads, and in many countries. Generally vshivenky people
            3. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 June 2016 10: 54
              +34
              Quote: Professor
              one hundred%. These are war criminals. However, I hasten to upset you - they were Lebanese.

              You have not upset me, and in principle you cannot. The point is that I have a clear idea of ​​what I am writing, and you dodge and try to shift the blame for organizing the massacre of women and children in the camps on the mythical Lebanese. Completeness, professor, I am not interested in your translation of arrows on this matter. The officers of the Defense Army ensured the cordon and coordination of their own "mongrels" - the Phalangists, during the massacres in the camps. They are up to their throats in blood and not much different from the SS men in the death camps, and the IDF is in shit after that. And everything that you sing here - leave it for the ignorant with the Unified State Exam education, it is likely that they can believe you. And that's not a fact request

              Quote: Professor
              You started military trips. I thought you were about Chechnya. request

              Have you been to Chechnya? Or do you know something about war crimes? You have to write a paper to the military prosecutor's office, but not here with your "I thought" to put a shadow on the fence. Do not confuse the Russian soldier who is at home and the IDF, who fights off the bearded, as he provides accommodation on foreign lands taken from the Palestinians ...
              You have confused a little situevina negative

              Quote: Professor

              You and most of the people here have not seen Arab officers. Arabs' officers are a caste. These are people who do not sit next to soldiers with a meal. They can not go to a military school and become an officer. So this savage is never an officer. That is, in general.

              Professor, do not bury yourself. You have no idea who and what of those on this site have seen, know, and with whom you talked. Just because the Arabs are closer to you does not mean that you know them. At the moment, you have no idea about the person you are pouring mud on. negative
              Still, I can not resist and ... minus you personally from me. Just because you boast of something - to which you have nothing to do and insult the one - whom you never saw negative
            4. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 11: 18
              -14%
              Quote: Andrey K
              The officers of the Defense Army ensured the cordon and coordination of their own "mongrels" - the Phalangists, during the massacres in the camps.

              Evidence in the studio.

              Quote: Andrey K
              They are sick of blood and are not much different from the SS men in the death camps, and the IDF is in shit after that.

              Just snot do not need to smear on the cheeks. Give facts, not emotions.

              Quote: Andrey K
              Have you been to Chechnya?

              I didn’t, but there was Budanov. And he is not alone.

              Quote: Andrey K
              Professor, do not bury yourself. You have no idea who and what of those on this site have seen, know, and with whom you talked. Just because the Arabs are closer to you does not mean that you know them. At the moment, you have no idea about the person you are pouring mud on.

              What exactly are you from? I have long understood. Yes, and the Arabs, I know better than most here present. At least I live and work with them, and I can pamper in Arabic. You see them exclusively on YouTube.

              Quote: Andrey K
              minus you personally from me.

              Not. Not. I will not survive.
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            6. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 13: 06
              -4
              Quote: Andrey K
              You answer for your words - where is the evidence that the Jews are not in the blood of the Palestinians from these camps. Keep your harlot

              To prove that something was missing? Are you in kindergarten, Mr. liar? wink

              Quote: Andrey K
              What emotions are you talking about? What snot are you talking about? Are you sick? Do not take care of yourself

              SS men, death camps? Less snot and more facts.

              Quote: Andrey K
              Professor, you are not suitable for this Officer.

              I believe. Not a single court has convicted me of war crimes, and he is a war criminal convicted by a court.

              Quote: Andrey K
              including in shoulder straps of the Defense Army - who cut out several thousand people, refugees

              Docs to the studio, Mr. Sovramshi. You can court decision or evidence.

              Quote: Andrey K
              Do you have something on the topic? If not, then round off with this cosmic Jewism. Bored

              Quickly, you were blown away, Mr. liar. Opponent turned to frank insults. How cute. good
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            8. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 13: 58
              -6
              Quote: Andrey K
              Do not hang labels. If I lied, then tell the truth. And so - you are hollow

              The truth is that Tzahal did not participate in the massacre, either directly or indirectly.

              Quote: Andrey K
              Does it make sense to judge you for war crimes? Have you fought on the couch? It’s good that you were not judged. I am happy for you. The guard of Colonel Budanov was tried by a Russian court, not an Israeli one. You put yourself a plus sign or what? But when, suddenly, conscience wakes up and the executioners from Sabra and Shatila are condemned in Israel, then there will be something to tell you. Cover the executioners on

              That’s exactly nothing to judge me for. Unlike Budanov, I did not commit war crimes. The executioners from Sabra and Shatila will condemn the judges in Israel - this is not realistic since these crimes were committed by Lebanese citizens in Lebanon and not against Israeli citizens. There is an international tribunal for this.

              Quote: Andrey K
              See above. The state covers these executioners in uniform. When the investigative bodies of Israel find these material evidence and condemn these "officers", then we will talk.

              You lied again. You have no evidence to support your ridiculous fantasies.

              Quote: Andrey K
              I, however, will be bored without you. If I somehow call you, then:
              This is not an insult, but simply an analysis of your "pearls

              Classics of the genre. An opponent caught in a lie calls the person who has convicted a liar. You start to be boring.

              Quote: Patriot 1
              This is a Hero and not a traitor to the Motherland, like some.

              War criminal convicted by a Russian court.
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            10. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 14: 54
              +1
              What is your evidence of Tsahal’s involvement in the massacre in refugee camps?
            11. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 June 2016 15: 04
              +8
              What is your evidence of NOT Israeli soldiers participating in the massacre of civilians in Sabra and Shatil?
              Do not translate the arrows. Either justify your words, or stop flooding.
            12. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 15: 07
              -3
              Quote: Andrey K
              What is your evidence of NOT Israeli soldiers participating in the massacre of civilians in Sabra and Shatil?

              You claim that Tzahal participated in the massacre. What is your evidence?
            13. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 June 2016 15: 17
              +10
              Quote: Professor
              You claim that Tzahal participated in the massacre. What is your evidence?

              Do not flood and do not leave the answer. We are not in Israel and this mule will not work here laughing
              You will still play the railwayman. You put the arrows on the Lebanese. Where is the evidence that this is so? The words of the soiled "officers" from the Defense Army? Where is the evidence that they did not participate directly in the massacre? If there is nothing to hide, it’s probably an investigation. Even the perpetrators of this horror have been found, right? Or not?
            14. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2016 15: 21
              +1
              Are you able to confirm your claims? Yes or no? if so, then you are welcome to pin me down with facts, if you excuse the liar.
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            16. aiw
              aiw 21 June 2016 19: 45
              +2
              Andrey, your statement about the participation of the Tsakhal in the massacre - you have to prove it.

              Decent people are responsible for their words, but you probably do not belong to those .... alas.
            17. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 June 2016 20: 29
              +8
              Quote: aiw
              Decent people are responsible for their words, but you probably do not belong to those .... alas.

              I will not tell you about decent people. And do you relate to those. Not for you to judge request
              Moreover, you got into the conversation, immediately with claims to the arbitrator and insulting attacks. Notice, I didn’t allow myself to do this even in a dispute with an opponent. repeat
              Quote: aiw
              Andrey, your statement about the participation of the Tsakhal in the massacre - you have to prove it.

              First: I’ll deal with the algorithm of conducting a conversation with my opponent hi
              Secondly: I not only argue about the indirect participation of specialists from the defense army in the massacre (provoking riots and inciting the Phalangists, which I mentioned, under the sauce of revenge for the president), but also the participation of criminals in blocking camps and direct massacres. Opponent in response not a word except slogans: the "Christians" guilty of the massacre, then the Lebanese. If you point your finger at someone - justify. But this is not ...
              For this, I think, I explained to you the essence of our discussion.
              PS My father, his kingdom of heaven, was called Eugene. I’m speaking about Andrey Evgenievich. We didn’t go together with reconnaissance, we didn’t eat porridge from the same pot, we didn’t put an ass together under bullets, and I’m talking with you for the first time - either to me or not to you. What am I to you Andrew?
              Amiable, more careful on turns and lectures on decency, first try on yourself. It is indecent to be rude to unfamiliar uncles. Do not request
            18. Schulz
              Schulz 21 June 2016 20: 50
              -6
              Quote: aiw
              Andrey, your statement about the participation of the Tsakhal in the massacre - you have to prove it.

              Andrey K thinks differently
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        2. Professor
          Professor 21 June 2016 20: 15
          +1
          Are you able to confirm your claims? Yes or no? if yes, then you are welcome to pin me down with facts, if you excuse the liar
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        4. Professor
          Professor 21 June 2016 20: 54
          -4
          Quote: Andrey K
          I'm able to pin anyone

          You are not even able to answer for your words. So, if you are able to confirm your statements, then I ask you to be welcome, and until then you are free, Mr. liar. wassat
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      2. Schulz
        Schulz 21 June 2016 21: 00
        +1
        Quote: Andrey K

        Regarding the liar - when you find my lie, I'm sorry

        Andrei K, I know for certain that the other day you stole a little white piece of bread in a store.
        Because I’m not some kind of hollow-necked one, I’m not going to prove anything to you, but rather you will take the trouble to prove that it was not. I'm waiting!
      3. Andrey K
        Andrey K 21 June 2016 21: 18
        +10
        Quote: Schulz
        Andrei K, I know for certain that the other day you stole a little white piece of bread in a store.
        Because I’m not some kind of hollow-necked one, I’m not going to prove anything to you, but rather you will take the trouble to prove that it was not. I'm waiting!

        When you are on the topic of an article or a dispute, add something yourself and I will consider it possible to answer you, I will answer, but for now ...
        nickname Schultz - off-topic your dreams posted hi Are you an alcoholic?
      4. Schulz
        Schulz 21 June 2016 22: 18
        +1
        Quote: Andrey K

        When you are on the topic of an article or a dispute, add something yourself and I will consider it possible to answer you, I will answer, but for now ...

        Andrey, in my priorities, the "dispute" with you is somewhere between studying the migration route of long-eared owls and mastering the ability to play the dutar.
        PS: nicknames in dogs.
      5. Andrey K
        Andrey K 21 June 2016 22: 36
        +8
        Quote: Schulz

        Andrey, in my priorities, the "dispute" with you is somewhere between studying the migration route of long-eared owls and mastering the ability to play the dutar.
        PS: nicknames in dogs.

        The man nicknamed Schultz - I'm not interested in your priorities and the mythical argument with me request
        Tell doctors about owls and dutar. I think they will help you. laughing
        PSU people: First name, Middle name, Last name. I would be glad to communicate, guided by this - but I do not see either the first, nor second, nor third request
        So don't blame me hi
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    4. andj61
      andj61 21 June 2016 22: 57
      -4
      Quote: Andrey K
      When you are on the topic of an article or a dispute, add something yourself and I will consider it possible to answer you, I will answer, but for now ...
      man nicknamed Schultz - off topic your dreams have you placed an alcoholic?

      And on the individual - and nicknames - why move on? what
      This is the first sign of the troll - when there is nothing to answer, then either the translation of the arrows, or an insult.
      And you seem to have never been so ...
    5. Andrey K
      Andrey K 21 June 2016 23: 13
      +8
      Quote: andj61
      And on the individual - and nicknames - why move on? what
      This is the first sign of the troll - when there is nothing to answer, then either the translation of the arrows, or an insult.
      And you seem to have never been so ...

      The namesake, so I didn’t get personal, an unknown person pokes me, is rude, tries to pull up something, and he has Schultz written. Now, if I have written Andrew and you, too, so you will not be mistaken. I refer to what is written. And rudeness didn’t seem to allow it - on an off-topic issue with vodka, I thought that a person would feel bad without it ... laughing
      And since he is not an expert on owls and dutars, he politely and recommended who decides all these issues in bulk laughing
  2. D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 June 2016 09: 01
    +2
    Look at the avatars, it will become more and more clear!
  3. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 22: 06
    +8
    Quote: Professor
    What is your evidence of Tsahal’s involvement in the massacre in refugee camps?


    Professor, are you this ?! Where is your sophisticated sarcasm, where are philological delights like the resilient priest of an undeveloped maiden, with breathing like the morning breeze? I am disappointed and leave ...
  4. Foxmara
    Foxmara 22 June 2016 06: 21
    +5
    Quote: pft, fkb
    Professor, are you this ?!

    Alas, I have to admit, the professors were replaced;)
  5. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 44
    +7
    Quote: Professor
    War criminal convicted by a Russian court.


    If you yourself are without sin - throw a stone at Budanov. I hope the Lord will forgive me for free expression of what he said. You Israelis do a lot of ceremony with terrorists? Our rossiyansky court "what a drawbar". But the "court" in The Hague will not break that drawbar! By the way, there is nothing to refer to the Russian court. is this an authoritative court? Now, if a masculine Negro judge of some American fly-dog condemned Colonel Budanov, that would be the level. And the decision of the Russian court is bullshit for the Israelis! No actual material to be submitted to the studio ...
  6. Professor
    Professor 22 June 2016 08: 35
    -6
    You can even tear the hair on your head, but this will not change the fact that Budanov is an ordinary war criminal convicted by a Russian court. You can’t argue with the facts.
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  9. Shuttle
    Shuttle 21 June 2016 15: 36
    +15
    Quote: Professor
    Not a single court has convicted me of war crimes, and he is a war criminal convicted by a court.


    Oh Professor ...
    Not everything in this world is so simple.
    Sometimes it happens that the one whom the court called guilty is a greater righteous man than even the court itself. Do you, a resident of the promised land, not know this?
  10. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 57
    +2
    Quote: Shuttle
    Sometimes it happens that the one whom the court called guilty is a greater righteous man than even the court itself. Do you, a resident of the promised land, not know this?


    And who are the judges ?! Yelled Chatsky, like a voice crying in the desert. But in the desert, oddly enough, they heard him ...
  11. Patriot 1
    Patriot 1 21 June 2016 13: 45
    +19
    Professor, why are you hiding behind the Russian surname Sokolov?
    Well, about Budanov - not YOU (sorry that you are not) to judge him !!! This is a Hero and not a traitor to the Motherland, like some. And he did not look for when the new homeland, where the railway station is warm !!!
  12. atalef
    atalef 21 June 2016 21: 58
    -1
    Quote: Patriot 1
    Professor, why are you hiding behind the Russian surname Sokolov?
    !!!

    Well, actually a fairly common surname among Jews, in Haifa there is a street-Sokolov
    <!--QuoteBegin Пат
    Well, as for Budanov, it's not YOU (excuse YOU) to judge him !!! This is a Hero and not a traitor to the Motherland, like some. And he never looked for a new homeland, where there is a warm place !!! [/ quote -> Quote: Pat
    Well, as for Budanov, it's not YOU (sorry not YOU) to judge him !!! This is a Hero and not a traitor to the Motherland, like some. And he never looked for a new homeland, where there is a warm place !!! [/ quote ]
    In fact, Budanov is certainly not a traitor, and he was not convicted of treason.
    As far as I remember, the article was absolutely domestic
    He was convicted by a Russian court (though I don’t remember) military or civilian, for the rape and murder of a Chechen girl (I hope he didn’t mix anything up), he beguiled - the charge of rape was dropped. But BUDANOV pleaded guilty and at one time filed a petition for clemency (the main point of which is repenting of a crime) and was released ahead of schedule.
    Therefore, I think there shouldn’t be any disputes regarding the commission of a crime -
    -
  13. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 22: 17
    +3
    [quote = atalef] [quote = Patriot 1] Professor, why are you hiding behind the Russian surname Sokolov?
    !!! [/ quote]
    Well, actually a fairly common surname among Jews, in Haifa there is a street-Sokolov

    And in Adler there is the Herota River. According to the legend, under the tsar, the Tenth Infantry Company was deployed in the upper reaches of the river, which is now called the Cold, and in fact - a sewer. On the map, the location was designated as "Company X". In Russian "he-rota". However, maybe this is a legend. And I don't know anything about Sokolova Street in Haifa ...
  14. atalef
    atalef 21 June 2016 22: 34
    -3
    [quote = pft, fkb] [quote = atalef] [quote = Patriot 1] Professor, why are you hiding behind the Russian surname Sokolov?
    !!! [/ quote]
    Well, actually a fairly common surname among Jews, in Haifa there is a street-Sokolov

    And in Adler there is the Herota River. According to the legend, under the tsar, the Tenth Infantry Company was deployed in the upper reaches of the river, which is now called the Cold, and in fact - a sewer. On the map, the location was designated as "Company X". In Russian "he-rota". However, maybe this is a legend. And I don't know anything about Sokolova Street in Haifa ... [/ quote]
    NK is not Sokolov, but Sokolov (surnames in Hebrew are not inclined), and the fact that you don’t know doesn’t mean at all that this doesn’t exist — go through your comments — so there shouldn’t be anything in the world at all.
    [quote]. NAHUM FALCONS

    A prominent writer and Zionist leader, he was the largest figure in the Zionist movement of the first half of the 20 century after Herzl and Weizmann. That is why in Israel almost everywhere there is Sokolov Street, starting with big cities: Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Be'er Sheva, and ending with small towns and settlements: God-Gasharon, Kiryat Ata, not to mention, of course, medium-sized cities - Rehovot, Afula, Rishon Lezion, Netanya, Herzliya, Bnei Brak, etc. [/ quote]
  15. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 13
    +6
    Quote: atalef
    NK is not Sokolov, but Sokolov (surnames in Hebrew are not inclined), and the fact that you don’t know doesn’t mean at all that this doesn’t exist — go through your comments — so there shouldn’t be anything in the world at all.
    . NAHUM SOKOLOV A visible writer and Zionist leader, he was the largest figure in the Zionist movement of the first half of the 20th century after Herzl and Weizmann. That is why in Israel almost everywhere there is Sokolova Street, starting with big cities: Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Be'er Sheva, and ending with small towns and settlements: God-Gasharon, Kiryat Ata, not to mention, of course, medium-sized cities - Rehovot, Afula, Rishon Lezion, Netanya, Herzliya, Bnei Brak, etc.


    I don’t know anything about NAHUM FALCON. So I don’t know anything and am not worthy to know! Woe is me!!! Take me, rip my back to shreds!
  16. atalef
    atalef 22 June 2016 04: 53
    -8
    Quote: pft, fkb
    Take me, rip my back to shreds!

    You ask your hairy friends, pervert
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  19. andj61
    andj61 21 June 2016 22: 51
    +8
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Patriot 1
    Professor, why are you hiding behind the Russian surname Sokolov?
    !!!
    Well, actually a fairly common surname among Jews, in Haifa there is a street-Sokolov

    As the unforgettable A.P. said Chekhov, there is no such thing that did not fit the Jew as a surname ... fellow
    Hello to Zionist power engineers! drinks
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  21. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 00
    +14
    The professor is a complete n ... besides a troll. Grandfather for the Soviet Union (for a professor - a scoop) shed blood, thought his grandson would live in the best country in the world. And the grandson chose FREEDOM. God bless him! and deliver us from the evil one ...
  22. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 21: 15
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    I didn’t, but there was Budanov. And he is not alone.


    Such officers as Colonel Budanov, at one time, finally closed the prospect of solving the "Jewish question" by the Nazis.
  23. Andrey K
    Andrey K 21 June 2016 21: 24
    +14
    Quote: pft, fkb

    Such officers as Colonel Budanov, at one time, finally closed the prospect of solving the "Jewish question" by the Nazis.

    It is unlikely that he will hear you, he exchanged the land where he was born. And now he’s climbing out of his skin, proving that he is a greater protector of Jews than Aboriginal Jews. And he watered Budanov with mud knowing that in response the bread slicer would remain intact. Take it easy.
  24. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 22: 38
    +5
    Quote: Andrey K
    Take it easy.


    You need to be "towards this" calmer, I have a gigantic, no - universal experience of communicating with a prepared opponent. At one time, Albert Einstein was caught by some theoretical physicist in ignorance of some physical formula. He was asked: how do you, a great physicist, do not know this formula? To which Einstein replied: I do not need to know her, for this I have a reference book. You cannot be the champion of everything in the world, only fools know everyone. But it is enough to have common sense and be guided by logic, a dancing guide to give a decent answer to any question. And if the answer is not worthy, then it must be witty. The main rule of a negotiator is not to be silent ...
  25. D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 June 2016 08: 56
    0
    [quote] Do not confuse the Russian soldier in his home and the IDF, which fights off the bearded, as it provides accommodation on alien lands taken from the Palestinians ... quote]
    Well said.
  26. lukewarm
    lukewarm 21 June 2016 11: 50
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    I thought you were about Chechnya.

    The irony, huh? Sarcasm ... Well, well ...
  27. bya965
    bya965 21 June 2016 19: 09
    +1

    “I think,” said Schweik, “that one should look at everything impartially. Everyone can make a mistake, and if you think about something for a very long time, you will certainly be mistaken. Doctors are people too, and people tend to make mistakes. Once in Nuslya, just at the bridge over Botich, when I was returning from the "Banzet" at night, a gentleman came up to me and hit me on the head with an arapnik; I, of course, fell to the ground, and he lit me up and said: "It's a mistake, it's not him!" This mistake angered him so much that he took and hit me on the back again. So it is written to a person by birth - to be mistaken until death. Once there was such a case: one man found a half-frozen mad dog at night, took him home with him and put him in bed with his wife. The dog warmed up, came to his senses and ate the whole family, and tore the smallest in the cradle and devoured. Or I will give another example of how one turner from our house made a mistake. He opened the Podolsk church with a key, thinking that he had come home, took off his shoes in the sacristy, as he believed that he was in his kitchen, lay down on the throne, because he decided that he was at home in bed, covered himself with covers with sacred inscriptions, and put the gospel under his head and other sacred books to be higher. In the morning the church watchman found him there, and our turner, when he came to his senses, kindly told him that a mistake had happened to him. "Good mistake!" Says the church watchman. "Because of such a mistake, we will have to consecrate the church again." Then this turner appeared before the forensic doctors, and they proved to him that he was fully conscious and sober - they say, if he was drunk, he would not have hit the key in the keyhole. Then this turner died in Pankrats ... I will give you another example of how a police dog, a shepherd dog of the famous captain Rotter, made a mistake in Kladno. Captain Rotter trained the dogs and trained them on tramps until all the tramps began to bypass the Kladno region. Then Rotter ordered that the gendarmes, at least burst, bring some suspicious person. Once they brought to him a rather decently dressed man who was found in the Lansk forests. He was sitting there on a tree stump. Rotter immediately ordered a piece of the floor to be cut off from his jacket and gave this piece to his bloodhounds to sniff. Then that man was taken to a brick factory outside the city and they let those very trained dogs follow in his tracks, who found him and brought him back. Then the man was ordered to climb the stairs to the attic, jump over the stone fence, throw himself into the pond, and the dogs were lowered after him. In the end, it turned out that this man was a radical deputy who went for a walk in Lanskie forests when he was disgusted with sitting in parliament. This is why I say that all people tend to make mistakes, be they scientist or uneducated. And the ministers are wrong.
  28. Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 49
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    You started military trips. I thought you were about Chechnya


    As I understand it, all the war criminals for whom Nuremberg and The Hague are crying live in Russia. Well, how can I not remember: "they brutally fired at our planes, peacefully bombing their damned cities" ... you, Professor.
  29. D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 June 2016 08: 50
    0
    Honor and praise!
  • alexmach
    alexmach 21 June 2016 00: 39
    +23
    Here people will find something to boast about, at least with their sleek face. Eka is unseen, living in peace in a prosperous country. Yes, in peace, you and does not happen near what is in Syria.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 21 June 2016 09: 23
      +9
      living in peace in a prosperous country.
      Behind which is a crowd of ambuls with dubai, led by the main King Kong from the Potomac.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 21 June 2016 09: 57
    +13
    Professor, what do you want here on "VO"?
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 21
      +3
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Professor, what do you want here on "VO"?


      This is not a Professor. This is his hunchbacked and lame independent shadow. But the king is not real!
  • Rust0626
    Rust0626 21 June 2016 16: 40
    +10
    My grandfather fought in WWII for more than 4 years, but neither he nor his fellow soldiers looked like this savage.


    Do you know how your grandfather looked every day all 4 years of the war? There were days when ours looked exactly like this Mowgli.
  • Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 41
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    My grandfather fought in WWII for more than 4 years, but neither he nor his fellow soldiers looked like this savage.


    I respect your grandfather and his fellow soldiers, but you saw him "at the parade", when he took pictures of himself, including for you. During the battle and after the battle, you did not see him, and then he certainly looked no better than the indicated Mowgli, which, however, did not in any way affect the combat effectiveness.

    Quote: Professor
    You know better since the massacre was carried out by Christians.


    If possible more.


    Quote: Professor
    Are you talking about Chechnya or about Tzahal? I lost the thread of your thoughts


    What do you personally know about Chechnya to bring such charges? Or is a man in Israel not responsible for his words? Do you have matriarchy there?

    Quote: Professor
    I did not see the officer there. Mowgli (in the truest sense of the word) examined, but no officer.


    Who are you, the almighty military guru of the Middle East? Not considered, and okay. If only his leadership and his subordinates would consider an officer in him, but the combat task assigned to him he completed. And the fact that barefoot, so "whoever wants to, and jerks off" ... War.
  • Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 41
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    My grandfather fought in WWII for more than 4 years, but neither he nor his fellow soldiers looked like this savage.


    I respect your grandfather and his fellow soldiers, but you saw him "at the parade", when he took pictures of himself, including for you. During the battle and after the battle, you did not see him, and then he certainly looked no better than the indicated Mowgli, which, however, did not in any way affect the combat effectiveness.

    Quote: Professor
    You know better since the massacre was carried out by Christians.


    If possible more.


    Quote: Professor
    Are you talking about Chechnya or about Tzahal? I lost the thread of your thoughts


    What do you personally know about Chechnya to bring such charges? Or is a man in Israel not responsible for his words? Do you have matriarchy there?

    Quote: Professor
    I did not see the officer there. Mowgli (in the truest sense of the word) examined, but no officer.


    Who are you, the almighty military guru of the Middle East? Not considered, and okay. If only his leadership and his subordinates would consider an officer in him, but the combat task assigned to him he completed. And the fact that barefoot, so "whoever wants to, and jerks off" ... War.
  • D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 June 2016 08: 48
    +1
    What about an Israeli officer? Always with a fresh collar and clean linen? You are a state sponsored by US Jews, the Angles threw you yao, a lot of money, and this man is fighting for his homeland, against which you and the whole world have ganged up. And note, he is the same as you.
  • Ramzaj99
    Ramzaj99 20 June 2016 19: 06
    +40
    [quote =] [quote = professor] We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS.
    Usually we exchange one for 1000 of these. [/ quote]

    Who are we"?? Pseudo-Hebrews ????))
    The rat climbed into the dog’s booth, the dog does not become .......
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 20: 37
    +24
    With your participation, we brought the neighboring country to such a state. You rejoice when a neighbor’s house burned out !!!
  • Gas truck
    Gas truck 20 June 2016 15: 18
    +72
    have been fighting for 70 years ?! and with whom have you been fighting for 70 years? - with the same unwashed and barefoot raggies, like that Syrian! Yes, you just have all these 70 years .... found, damn what to be proud of.
  • Andrey K
    Andrey K 20 June 2016 15: 18
    +59
    Quote: Professor
    Usually we have one of our exchanges on 1000 such. We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS. hi

    You mean those "officers" who staged the massacre in the Palestinian refugee camps "Sabra" and "Shatila"? negative
    Or did they not suit? Were you just "on the naughty", in the "cordon"?
    This filth, even ISIS, has not "surpassed" negative
    After all, they "fought", these "officers" negative
    Colleague, do not distort or exaggerate. There are officers in the IDF, and there are also war criminals, polished, not "ragamuffins" - whom the gallows, at another time, would have been waiting for request
    Let's not get personal, you yourself know how poop can be remembered in such a way that gloss does not help hi
    Closer to the topic: "Syrian officer about T-90 (video)"
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 20 June 2016 15: 31
    +43
    I am very sorry, but Merkava is not able to compete with the T-90, as it was designed to protect Israel precisely in its climatic conditions. T-90 is universal from the Arctic to the Sahara desert. Whatever anyone says. but tank building is on top of us. Let's see what Armata shows, but I think it will not disappoint.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 June 2016 15: 50
      +1
      Quote: Maxom75
      I am very sorry, but Merkava is not able to compete with the T-90, as it was designed to protect Israel precisely in its climatic conditions.

      Do you want to talk about the climate in Israel? wink


      1. tracker
        tracker 20 June 2016 18: 57
        +21
        the snow is visible, and the temperature, do you even have a winter diesel fuel, smart guy? at minus 30 a carrot will start, I doubt it
      2. Nightrain
        Nightrain 20 June 2016 22: 28
        +15
        Do you want to talk about the climate in Israel?

        And in Russia there is an abnormal heat for 40. Once every 20 years. But this is not the rule. The lowest temperature drops in the Jerusalem area in January - up to +11 gr. during the day, +6 at night. http://www.holyland.ru/p14/index.html Funny. But the point is not even the temperature. 90% of the country is stony or sandy, dense soil, well, in Israel there are no swamps of Belarusian scale, or a lake-river network of Karelian scales.
        1. Starshina wmf
          Starshina wmf 21 June 2016 05: 18
          +11
          Well, you turned down. Once in 20 years. Over in Kalmykia and the Astrakhan region every year from May to September under 50 in the shade.
        2. Sergius
          Sergius 21 June 2016 11: 21
          +5
          Abnormal heat behind 40? Are you laughing !? For Rostov on Don, 40 is the norm in the shade, and more than once in 20 years, but every year.
      3. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 22: 26
        +4
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Do you want to talk about the climate in Israel?


        Surprising Russians with snow is like scaring a hedgehog with a bare ass. Taki ...
    2. yehat
      yehat 20 June 2016 17: 37
      +33
      not climate weakness of carrots, but patency.
      river crossing, mud that can reach the tower, weak loose soils,
      wetland, etc. - everything is where the 60+ tank weighs nothing.
      In China, there are entire areas where even a tank weighing 35 tons cannot pass.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 June 2016 17: 56
        -9
        Quote: yehat
        not climate weakness of carrots, but patency.
        river crossing, mud that can reach the tower, weak loose soils,
        wetland, etc. - everything is where the 60+ tank weighs nothing.

        Well, here's a photo "merkav" in the mud:
        http://www.rusarmy.com/forum/threads/sravnenie-t-90-t-80u-s-leopard-2-chiftejn-i

        -pr-1.8315 / page-46 # post-560364
        1. Maxom75
          Maxom75 20 June 2016 18: 48
          +14
          If Merkava is so good, why doesn't anyone need her? The simple answer is not the main tank and too expensive. Israel knows how to do a lot of good, but tanks are not its thing
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 21 June 2016 00: 43
          0
          this is not the main tank

          Well, who cares, primary or secondary? just to solve the tasks assigned to him
        3. Maxom75
          Maxom75 21 June 2016 19: 50
          +4
          Super, and what confronts him? T-50, T-34 of the Syrian army? Well, here it is certainly not difficult to complete the task. It is more difficult when the enemy is worthy like a T-90. here already and the task can fail Merkava easily. Of course, the latter began to supply KAZ, but there are not so many such tanks in the Israeli army. But I sincerely hope that our tanks will never confront Israel, because I don’t understand why we need it? Israel does not threaten or harm us, so it is necessary with it. On the contrary, I would establish maximum cooperation with Israel, especially in terms of modern technologies and developments. I would create a mass of joint ventures to solve the tasks we need, especially in the civilian sector. We need to build and create a ton of everything, in exchange we offer resources, maximum security and assistance to business, and possibly a guarantee of Israeli security (guarantee of existence).
      2. yehat
        yehat 21 June 2016 09: 41
        +3
        with all the humor that I expressed about carrots, the Israelis know how to make tanks that are well suited to their tasks. Maybe nobody needs them anymore, but they perform their main tasks well.
    3. yehat
      yehat 21 June 2016 09: 39
      +1
      it's not dirt))))
      here is the dirt
      http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6703/137106206.404/0_de0b5_bacd034c_orig
      http://w0rld0ftanks.ru/images/tanki_i_gryaz/1/11.jpg
  • atalef
    atalef 21 June 2016 22: 10
    +1
    Quote: Maxom75
    I am very sorry, but Merkava is not able to compete with the T-90, as it was designed to protect Israel precisely in its climatic conditions. T-90 is universal from the Arctic to the Sahara desert. Whatever anyone says. but tank building is on top of us. Let's see what Armata shows, but I think it will not disappoint.

    I dare to suggest that the soils and landscapes in Syria are not much different from Israel, but the temperature + 40 in the shade is a common occurrence - well, how will it be today, yesterday and tomorrow - about competition? You somehow contradict yourself - Merkava was designed for our climate and landscapes - but are you sure that the t-90 not prepared for these conditions will compete with it? How ? To begin with, why are hatches constantly open in T-90 tanks? Do you know how many of us warm lunch? They put on the torpedo -20 minutes and do not need any microwave, but how about the tank? Yes, without condition? What kind of combat readiness can be talked about if, after an hour and a half with a closed hatch, you get dehydrated and die from overheating. This is for starters - without touching anything else
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 21 June 2016 22: 18
      +2
      Quote: atalef
      But what about the tank? Yes, without condition? What kind of combat readiness can we talk about, if after an hour and a half with a closed hatch, you get dehydrated and you die from overheating

      Only our teams fool could deliver T-34 with fur helmets to Angola laughing
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Only our teams could deliver T-34 with fur helmets to Angola


        Actually, I would like to see what the "fur helmet" of a Soviet tanker looks like. Also a speaker. You, apparently, without desire, have just become a classic of idiocy. Secondly, in my opinion, if there were "mechanical helmets" in Angola, then the local Angolan commands, I believe, would find a use for them, without straining the intellect of subordinates too much. By the way, I doubt that anything exported from the USSR would include such gadgets that are readily available for customs clearance. For example, I know firsthand: when imported "chocolate" (specific, very high-quality interior trim, under the "cherry") cars were driven from the GDR to the USSR, then the included porcelain sets, nickel-plated spoons, car keys and even bed linen in covers made of imitation leather, - ended up "not in the cars" after going through the "customs clearance" procedure. Based on the foregoing, I have to object that the T-34s came to Angola equipped with the notorious "fur helmets" ...
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 June 2016 23: 31
        +4
        Quote: pft, fkb
        Actually, I would like to see what the "fur helmet" of a Soviet tanker looks like
        Please, natural sheepskin, which is known to have FUR.
        And about idiocy in vain. Ruslan says everything correctly. A well-known case told by our Angolan war veteran in a documentary. He trained Angolan tankers to work on our equipment. And along with the tanks, the delivery included winter helmets.
      3. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 June 2016 23: 36
        +3
        Lesch drinks Well, what would I do without you crying request Recently, I just got bullied to explain something - people live in some kind of parallel reality and feel good and comfortable
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 21 June 2016 23: 48
        +2
        Hi drinks
        You know, VDNH medalists are rare crying bully
        P.S. Glorious were the times.
      5. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 June 2016 23: 56
        +3
        [quote = Stormbreaker] There were glorious times. [/ quote
        Slowly returning yes Already noble shepherds appeared with the Star of the Hero of Labor laughing
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 21 June 2016 23: 34
    +3
    Quote: pft, fkb
    Based on the foregoing, I have to object that T-34s came to Angola equipped with the notorious "fur helmets" ...

    Historical fact As well as the fact that the commander of the tank company (ours) wrote a memorandum in which indicated, He saw the only T-34 tank on a pedestal in front of the school and would like to receive instructions for it
    Quote: pft, fkb
    that anything exported from the USSR would include such gadgets that are easily accessible with customs clearance.

    It was an urgent transfer with all the consequences and not a planned delivery. All data can be easily found if desired, when and why.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 22 June 2016 00: 02
    +2
    Quote: pft, fkb
    You, apparently, without desire, have just become a classic of idiocy.

    Do not want to apologize? wink
  • Idiot
    Idiot 22 June 2016 11: 44
    +2
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Do not want to apologize


    Want. I apologize.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 23 June 2016 05: 09
    +1
    Quote: pft, fkb
    I apologize.

    We drove through drinks
  • Professor
    Professor 22 June 2016 08: 41
    +2
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Only our teams could deliver T-34 with fur helmets to Angola

    Everything is correct. When the ambient temperature is higher than body temperature, you need not to undress, but to dress. Look at the Uzbeks. wink
  • Lankaster
    Lankaster 22 June 2016 09: 28
    +3
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Only our teams fool could deliver T-34 with fur helmets to Angola laughing

    Iraqi tankers also wore such helmets in the 1980s
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 22 June 2016 14: 38
    +1
    And in Central Asia, what are the caps of national costumes, is it not sheep’s fur? Or do you think they were? By the way, a fur hat helps to avoid heat stroke in the summer. Do not believe, ask the old Caucasians.
  • t-62
    t-62 16 August 2016 17: 30
    0
    Never died at -20 and at + 40 in Afghanistan - I wanted to have a larger view - the terrible thing is when you lean out
  • t-62
    t-62 16 August 2016 17: 35
    0
    Only our fool teams could deliver a T-34 with fur helmets to Angola laughing
    Yours could - our not. Well, if you really need it with bears and laughter
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 June 2016 22: 22
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    But are you sure that the T-90, which is not prepared for these conditions, will compete with him? How ?

    Sorry, but you will have to worry when good air conditioners start to be installed on the T-90SM. In this case, countries such as Egypt and Iran will be more pleased to buy them. And putting the air conditioner into the 90th export I think is not such a big problem . hi
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 22 June 2016 00: 15
    +2
    This is exactly what I’m saying, that the Merkava is not a bad tank in the Israeli desert, but in our open spaces it will stand in the first ditch. And with her weight, she won’t be able to drive a single bridge))) the heavy Merkava tank (chariot) and is not particularly in demand even by the Hindus who, as you say, do not open the hatches (there is a Conder in their version) well, this is for information. And you don’t tell me about the heat, I live in the Volgograd region (in my summer +45 in the shade it’s cool, and in winter it’s quite possible to reach -42 wind up to 30 m / s. And you try to go out at -15 breeze 15-20 m / s here Siberians and Yakuts freeze. This is called a sharply continental climate. And they raked the silk road the race section along the steppes we called the most difficult of all where they ever rode. Jeeps were stuck in the sand, and around them the locals cut goats and cornfields on UAZ. In the summer, in the steppe you can easily boil eggs in the sand and boil some water. And you sing about the climate to me.)) By the way, here is the largest Prodby training ground where they drive on tanks even without a Conder in the summer.
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 June 2016 05: 32
      +1
      Quote: Maxom75
      This is exactly what I’m saying, that the Merkava is not a bad tank in the Israeli desert, but in our open spaces it will stand in the first ditch.

      Actually, we are talking about Syria and T-90 in Syria.
      The conversation about Merkava in the snow of Russia is so hypothetical that it is not worth talking about it.
      Quote: Maxom75
      Merkava heavy tank (chariot) and is not particularly in demand even by the Hindus

      What does it mean - not particularly in demand and why EVEN Hindus?
      Israel never sold Merkavu. Therefore, we can’t talk about EVEN Hindus.
      Quote: Maxom75
      . And you don’t tell me about the heat, I live in the Volgograd region (in my summer + 45 it’s cool in the shade, and in the winter to -42 it’s quite possible to wind up to 30m / s. And you try at -15 to go to the breeze 15-20м / s here

      yes I honestly don’t give a damn what temperature you have in your area and are you ready to wear shorts with -42 or not
      We are talking about + 40 in the shade (In Syria) and the fact that in a tank with closed hatches you glue fins in a couple of hours
      Quote: Maxom75
      . And you sing to me about the climate.)) By the way, here is the largest Prodboh training ground where they drive on tanks even without a Conder in the summer.

      fool
  • L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 20 June 2016 15: 37
    +30
    He walks barefoot because it is his choice, and not because he has nothing to wear.
    1. Maxom75
      Maxom75 20 June 2016 18: 57
      +16
      on the contrary, good advertising, even if a tank has mastered such a miracle, it means the tank is easy to use and does not require the training of professors for its operation. And this is important for promotion in the markets of the Middle East and Africa.
  • Saburov
    Saburov 20 June 2016 16: 01
    +45
    Quote: Professor
    Usually we have one of our exchanges on 1000 such. We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS.


    Bravo! Fight with barefoot araps for 70 years and never defeat them! Only your brave officers were blown away and the wise leadership of Israel ended the "Day of Judgment" when the USSR threatened with a finger and prepared 7 airborne divisions for every fireman, if Israel is playing pranks. Jewish cunning and Jewish self-glorification in truth know no bounds! Do you happen to worship yourself there?
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 17: 52
      -53%
      Quote: Saburov
      Bravo! Fighting barefoot Araps for 70 years and not defeating them!

      Are you twisting again? Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs. Everyone knows the result. By the way, did the scoop beat barefoot in Afghanistan or what? wink

      Quote: Saburov
      Only that your brave officers were blown away and the wise leadership of Israel ended the "Judgment Day", when the USSR threatened with a finger and prepared 7 airborne divisions for every fireman, if Israel is playing pranks.

      Just "blown away". 100 km from Cairo and at a distance of an artillery shot from Damascus. By the way, and rightly so that they were "blown away", otherwise they would have to feed a couple of million more ragamuffins.

      Quote: Saburov
      Jewish cunning and Jewish self-praise truly know no bounds!

      Turns out a trick Israel defeated the armies of Syria and Egypt? Live and learn.

      How is it with the wind gradient? Is there a breakthrough? wink
      Quote: Verdun
      It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like?

      Look at the Russian tankers. This should look like real tankers. Am I very clear?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 June 2016 18: 22
        +45
        Quote: Professor
        By the way, the scoop beat barefoot in Afghanistan or what?

        "Scoop", as you put it, fought in a slightly different way. For example, all the infrastructure that the Majahideen or "Sovki" dismantled for parts, they also restored it. And forgive me that you restored in the same Gaza Strip? Or mattresses in Yugoslavia, Iraq or Libya?
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 June 2016 18: 55
          -37%
          Quote: NEXUS
          "Scoop", as you put it, fought in a slightly different way. For example, all the infrastructure that the Majahideen or "Sovki" dismantled for parts, they also restored it. And forgive me that you restored in the same Gaza Strip? Or mattresses in Yugoslavia, Iraq or Libya?

          What are you talking about? And at whose expense does Gaza live today? I still don’t understand, did the barefoot scoop win?

          Quote: mark2
          And what is considered a victory? The task of destroying the entire population of Afghanistan was not set

          But this did not stop to kill about a million Afghans.

          Quote: mark2
          At the end of 1979, Soviet troops entered the country unhindered, carried out — unlike the Americans in Vietnam — their tasks, and organizedly returned to their homeland.

          Built socialism? Maybe the Americans were not allowed to Afghanistan?

          Quote: mark2
          Those. what happens. The USSR came to the aid of the fraternal DRA, but the leadership itself lost the war for the minds of the population. Who should have been helped further? Therefore, they deduced.

          Well, what kind of brothers are they? Do not need this propaganda. Not at the party meeting. The scoop lost that war, but the army was not to blame for this and those fighters who were sent there. The Kremlin dreamers lost this war. Well, at least Gorbachev was smart enough to get out of there.

          Quote: Polkanov
          ... and in captivity - your officers are the same with a "needle"?

          And Mowgli this prisoner? Somehow I did not notice this.
        2. Garris199
          Garris199 21 June 2016 01: 44
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          I still don’t understand, did the barefoot scoop win?

          Invalid comparison. A war is a country against a country and is essentially a counter-terrorist operation within a narrow framework and limited forces.
          Put the question differently. Does anyone have a doubt, hand on heart, that the USSR would defeat Afghanistan, in a war country by country? What would defeat the Armed Forces of Afghanistan (and at the same time Pakistan, Iran, SA, etc.)? And if you ask the question, then Israel can’t overcome decades of barefoot Palestinians with makeshift bombs.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 June 2016 08: 38
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          What are you talking about? And at whose expense does Gaza live today? I still don’t understand, did the barefoot scoop win?

          You didn’t hear what I told you ... I’m not talking about who lives at the expense of Gaza, but that you, after the bombing and sweeps, recovered after yourself for your hard-earned money. So tell me what was restored in the same Gaza, at the Israeli expense, what was destroyed by your army and air force?
        4. guzik007
          guzik007 21 June 2016 09: 06
          +3
          Professor
          What are you talking about? And at whose expense does Gaza live today? I still don’t understand, did the barefoot scoop win?
          -----------------------------------------------------------------------
          I don’t really understand this, feed your enemies, in the hope that they will change. Don’t feed the wolf ...
    2. mark2
      mark2 20 June 2016 18: 44
      +13

      Are you twisting again? Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs. Everyone knows the result. By the way, the scoop beat barefoot in Afghanistan or how


      And what is considered a victory? The task of destroying the entire population of Afghanistan was not posed. Here are the wonderful words of Colonel General B.V. Gromov - the last commander of the 40th army, which for 10 years had been conducting military operations in Aghvnistan:
      "
      “I am deeply convinced: there are no grounds for the assertion that the 40th Army was defeated, as well as that we won a military victory in Afghanistan. Soviet troops at the end of 1979 entered the country without hindrance, carried out - unlike from the Americans in Vietnam - their tasks and returned to their homeland in an organized manner.If armed opposition units are considered as the main enemy of the Limited contingent, then the difference between us is that the 40th Army did what it saw fit, and the spooks did only that what they could. "

      According to Colonel General Viktor Merimsky, a former deputy. the chief of the Operational group of the USSR Ministry of Defense in the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the leadership of Afghanistan actually lost the fight against the rebels for their people, could not stabilize the situation in the country, although it had 300 military units (army, police, state security)

      Those. what happens. The USSR came to the aid of the fraternal DRA, but the leadership itself lost the war for the minds of the population. Who should have been helped further? Therefore, they deduced.

      Well, in conclusion, the loss of parties
      THE USSR:
      15 052 dead
      53 wounded
      417 missing.

      Afghanistan:
      from 75 to 000 killed, more than 90 wounded.

      The total loss of DRA from 670 thousand to 2 million people.

      Source: Wikipedia.
    3. Saburov
      Saburov 20 June 2016 20: 05
      +28
      Quote: Professor
      Are you twisting again? Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs. Everyone knows the result. By the way, did the scoop beat barefoot in Afghanistan or what?


      As in Ukraine, 150 thousand fights ours? If tens of thousands, as you put it, were there, your state would cease to exist in 70x. Total? The result is neither Egypt, nor Syria, nor Jordan, nor Iraq capitulated. What are you boasting about? And in Afghanistan there was no army or front line. And even those who must surrender. Smarter Professor ... you have to be smarter.


      Quote: Professor
      Just "blown away". 100 km from Cairo and at a distance of an artillery shot from Damascus. By the way, and rightly so that they were "blown away", otherwise they would have to feed a couple of million more ragamuffins.


      So what? Shot? Your government was afraid to fart once again, because in the USSR they would not understand such jokes. Are you directly feeding the Palestinians? Either they "love" you so much, especially after the demolition of residential areas and the shooting of children.


      Quote: Professor
      Turns out a trick Israel defeated the armies of Syria and Egypt? Live and learn. How is it with the wind gradient? Is there a breakthrough?


      Well, only yours ran around the backyards of the UN, especially when they were surrounded. And, of course, you yourself obtained information on the situation and intelligence, and the United States here so ... "slightly" helped. The gradient is fine, but your vision is not very good.

      Quote: Professor
      Look at the Russian tankers. This should look like real tankers. Am I very clear?


      What, you don’t like the clothes on the Syrian? Well, take a look at yours.
      1. Professor
        Professor 20 June 2016 20: 31
        -24%
        Quote: Saburov
        As in Ukraine, 150 thousand fights ours? If tens of thousands, as you put it, were there, your state would cease to exist in the 70s. The result? The result is neither Egypt, nor Syria, nor Jordan, nor Iraq capitulated. What are you boasting about? And in Afghanistan there was no army or front line. And even those who must surrender.

        I don’t know about Ukraine, but there were tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" there (among the Arabs). This is no longer a secret. The countries that attacked us did not capitulate, but rallied in such a way that there is still no desire to test our defenses. There was no army or navy in Afghanistan, and the USSR fled with its tail between its legs. By the way, Georgia did not capitulate on 8.8.8. Do you think she defeated you? Strong logic. request


        Quote: Saburov
        So what? Shot? Your government was afraid to fart once again, because in the USSR they would not understand such jokes. Are you directly feeding the Palestinians? Either they "love" you so much, especially after the demolition of residential areas and the shooting of children.

        Shot. Do you not know what happened to the headquarters of the SAR Air Force. wink And our government didn’t give a damn about the scoop and took the Sinai and the Golan from your allies. Well, where did the Kremlin look? That's just Gaza wasted in vain. Until now, we cannot keep up with this gadyushnik. And we feed them, and we drink and treat, and we supply them with electricity.

        Quote: Saburov
        Well, only yours ran around the backyards of the UN, especially when they were surrounded. And, of course, you yourself obtained information on the situation and intelligence data, and the United States here so ... "slightly" helped.

        Then everything is all right. 100 km from Cairo and the cannon shot from Damascus, we were thanks to the UN. Thank you for enlightening. lol

        Quote: Saburov
        With the gradient, everything is in order, but with your vision you are not very.

        How moral? Your plane crashed in Rostov just because you did not know this gradient. How so? Why didn't they tell him the wind shear? request

        Quote: Saburov
        What, you don’t like the clothes on the Syrian? Well, take a look at yours.

        He looked. Everything is according to the charter. And underwear, and shoes, and Glilon, and armor with helmets. Even the gloves are in place. wink

        But this is disgrace. Where is the bronik?

      2. Tusv
        Tusv 20 June 2016 21: 26
        +11
        Quote: Professor
        Georgia did not capitulate 8.8.8. Do you think she defeated you? Strong logic.

        We told them: "Guys, let's live together" - although they did not agree. No choice was given. Do you remember how Mishiko ate a tie without ketchup Baltimore (there was such an advertisement with Depardieu) And all business.
        And there was no escape from Afghanistan. Distort comrade
      3. Saburov
        Saburov 20 June 2016 22: 46
        +14
        Quote: Professor
        I don’t know about Ukraine, but there were tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" there (among the Arabs). This is no longer a secret. The countries that attacked us did not capitulate, but rallied in such a way that there is still no desire to test our defenses. There was no army or navy in Afghanistan, and the USSR fled with its tail between its legs. By the way, Georgia did not capitulate on 8.8.8. Do you think she defeated you? Strong logic.


        Oh how that hooked you! You don’t get angry like that, Professor, otherwise the locker room will seize. According to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, from 1956 to 1991, 16 thousand 282 people were sent to Syria through the Ministry of Defense of the USSR, including 294 generals, 11169 officers, 624 warrant officers, 2179 soldiers and sergeants, and 2016 SA and Navy workers and employees. Forty-four people died and died from wounds and diseases. Despite the fact that Soviet military experts had been serving in Egypt since at least the mid-1950, the Egyptian government asked the USSR for direct military assistance - this was the reason for sending regular units and formations of the Soviet Army and Navy and the creation of a military -soviet apparatus in the structure of the Armed Forces of Egypt (at that time - the United Arab Republic). The bulk of the twenty thousandth group of Soviet troops was withdrawn between 17 — 27 on July 1972, of which about 12 thousand people. were technical specialists and translators, although a limited number of Soviet military specialists remained in the Egyptian armed forces after the withdrawal of the main group. How the USSR fled from Israel, we know from your tales. So he fled that Israel, from the mere mention of the USSR, still flinches. By the mid-70, when the first information appeared that Israel secretly acquired nuclear weapons, Moscow began to consider the Zionist state not only as a hostile center of power, but also as a strategic value. The Soviet fleet cruised in the Eastern Mediterranean, holding Israel at gunpoint. And even more so, do we have to hold Sadat after the Camp David process? So the professor is past again.
      4. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 21 June 2016 03: 26
        +4
        Quote: Saburov
        Oh how that hooked you! You are not so angry Professor,

        Yeah, bombing to the fullest lol Looks like all the Arabs have already interrupted, will soon reach us. I think it's time for him to go to "Azov" to join, along with all the sympathizers.
      5. Professor
        Professor 21 June 2016 06: 48
        -10%
        Quote: Saburov
        According to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, from 1956 to 1991, 16 thousand 282 people were seconded to Syria through the Ministry of Defense of the USSR ...

        Quote: Saburov
        The bulk of the twenty thousandth group of Soviet troops was withdrawn between July 17-27, 1972 ...

        Here they are tens of thousands. Is there a calculator?

        Quote: Saburov
        How the USSR fled from Israel, we know from your tales. So fled that Israel from the mere mention of the USSR still shudders

        Of course bikes. Sinai and the Golan from the Soviet allies and did not give a damn about the Soviet "advisers" or not? How ugly it turned out.

        Quote: Saburov
        By the mid-70s, when the first information appeared that Israel had secretly acquired nuclear weapons, Moscow began to consider the Zionist state not only as a hostile center of power, but also as a strategic dimension. The Soviet fleet cruised in the Eastern Mediterranean, holding Israel at gunpoint.

        That is, they did not give a damn about the Kremlin and created nuclear weapons? Well you give ...

        Quote: Saburov
        And even more so, do we have to hold Sadat after the Camp David process?

        This is the same when a scoop kick kicked in the ass from Egypt? I will tell you more. Campdavid was without a scoop, peace was concluded with Jordan without a scoop, Madrid Conference without a scoop. Directly some kind of disrespect for these Zionists to the Kremlin. Well, at least Bibi appeared ...
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      7. Professor
        Professor 21 June 2016 13: 37
        -4
        Quote: Saburov
        For 35 years? Is this almost 600 people a year obtained? A huge number!

        Why not for 350 or 3500?

        Quote: Saburov
        If it were necessary for the USSR you would be rolled out as young people on billiards.

        If yes, if only ... but in fact Tsahal stopped less than 100 km from Cairo. And rightly so. enough of their parasites.

        Quote: Saburov
        This must be especially gifted to think that you represented some kind of power for the USSR, rather a bait.

        Nevertheless, the scoop did not pop up and your allies left slightly weakening, leaving both the Golan and Sinai. Takawa is a harsh reality.

        Quote: Saburov
        Yes, the Kremlin before you was like a plumber before the ballet ... He had a million other things.

        But what about tens of thousands of "advisers", billions of rubles in aid to our enemies if the Kremlin had "other things to do"? An inconsistency, however.

        Quote: Saburov
        And the fact that until the collapse of the USSR in Egypt and the SAR remained our military experts and even had a couple of airfields in Egypt at their disposal. Does this fact bother you? Sucks with kicks then. Crutches interfere?

        Doesn't bother. Sadat kicked in the ass in the shortest possible time, returned to the scoop of "advisers" in the mass of them, and together with their families did not have time to stock up. People are upset. They thought to improve their financial situation, but did not have time. That's what upset them then. Scoop in one word. sad
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  • Saburov
    Saburov 21 June 2016 13: 45
    +10
    Quote: Professor
    You should teach a story when the Sinai and the Golan were occupied and when the scoop was flooded from Egypt. To conduct educational program? Hint with a difference of 5 (five) years.


    I know the history, but you keep the chronology of events selectively and fragmentarily. For the USSR, it didn’t matter where you were sitting, in the Golan or in the Sinai. He had a completely different goal. So the Zhidoland owes its "zalugami" more to the restraint of the USSR (when suddenly, in the middle of the sea, the operation and the landing in Port Said and the transfer of airborne troops are canceled) and the United States for the fact that, under no pretext, they did not want to openly side with the Zionists (remember lessons from direct clashes with the USSR in Vietnam and Korea). Yes, perly, right up to the collapse of the USSR and a little later.

    Quote: Professor
    Really? to the Hannanes and the alarm!


    So who is bad with the story? And to which haplogroup do they belong to tell you?

    Quote: Professor
    I can send you packs of such photos from Chechnya. So what? Waving corpses is an Arab national trait. I see you personally decided to adopt this trait. However, when Israel closes its border with Gaza, all over the world, and first of all in Gaza, cries begin that we are not giving Arabs treatment in our country. The paradox is that even the families of Hamas leaders are treated with us. Give names? So their hatred is just business. And by the way, these children are tearing to pieces. Cultural cultures they have.


    Do not even compare, for you are already confused in the testimony. We have a full-fledged entity with a distinguished republic and an administrative entity subsidized from the state budget. And you? What culture-cultures? If you rightfully take away the land that belongs to you, kill your children and demolish residential neighborhoods and drive people like cattle into corrals and throw you dumplings off the table for 50 years, what kind of culture will you have?
  • Professor
    Professor 21 June 2016 14: 04
    -8
    Quote: Saburov
    I know the story, but you keep a chronology of events selectively and fragmentarily.

    Yah? Like you. Sinai and the Golan were occupied by Israel in 1967, and the events you described took place in 1972.

    Quote: Saburov
    For the USSR, in general, it didn’t matter where you were sitting, in the Golan or in the Sinai stomp.

    Why did the scoop so tear up the navel both at the UN and at our neighbors. By the way, he tore his belly button and went all the way to the toilet. Now the scoop is only in the heads of some personalities.

    Quote: Saburov
    Do not even compare, because you are already confused in the testimony.

    Show photos of Chechen children? Or do they have in your blood another chevet?

    Quote: Saburov
    If you rightfully take away your land, kill your children and demolish neighborhoods and drive people like cattle into corrals and throw you dumplings off the table for 50 years, what kind of culture will you have?

    You are directly talking in the words of the Chechens now. That’s how they reason.

    Let's get back to tanks and TOUs or will we continue to discuss war crimes in Chechnya?
  • Saburov
    Saburov 21 June 2016 15: 14
    +8
    Quote: Professor
    Yah? Like you. Sinai and the Golan were occupied by Israel in 1967, and the events you described took place in 1972.
    Why did the scoop so tear up the navel both at the UN and at our neighbors. By the way, he tore his belly button and went all the way to the toilet. Now the scoop is only in the heads of some personalities.
    You are directly talking in the words of the Chechens now. That’s how they reason.
    Let's get back to tanks and TOUs or will we continue to discuss war crimes in Chechnya?


    Professor, honestly, tired of horribly procrastinating with you the same topics. By no means do I underestimate the military victories of Israel (if you deign to name my homeland of the USSR). But still, one must really look at the state of affairs both in the military aspect and in comparing the combat potential of the USSR and Israel, as well as the situation and goals of the USSR and the USA in the international arena. And what role was given to the Middle East in this confrontation. Well, plus to everything, Palestine was the legal successor and it would be possible to exist normally if the corresponding social and administrative infrastructure were created.
  • Professor
    Professor 21 June 2016 15: 19
    -6
    1. As a native of the USSR, I will call him what I want. I have the right. I will never say a bad word about Russia and Russians.
    2. Of course, Israel did not have a single chance against the scoop. This is not the same speech. speech about the Arabs under the strict guidance of the "allies".
  • Slavs
    Slavs 22 June 2016 00: 06
    +4
    The scoop gave you the opportunity to write in Russian without errors, which Russia cannot now give Russians ... Why is there so much hatred for the Motherland, Oleg?
  • viktorR
    viktorR 22 June 2016 11: 24
    +2
    Why so much hatred for the motherland, Oleg?

    Well, as the same it is necessary to justify their betrayal of the Motherland. So our Professor poses as a victim, they say, "scoop" offended him, deprived him.
  • Professor
    Professor 22 June 2016 11: 32
    +1
    Quote: viktorR
    Well, how do you justify your betrayal of the homeland.

    Who would have spoken about betrayal? Maybe when the leaders in Belovezhskaya Pushcha hammered the last nail in the coffin of the Council of Deputies, you or who other of the respected visitors of the site stood up for his defense? How many of you took to the streets? Who among you remained faithful to the oath and defended the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics with arms in hand? That's right, nobody. But now you have suddenly become "patriots" of the USSR.
  • viktorR
    viktorR 22 June 2016 11: 50
    +2
    Did I ruin the chapel too?
    In general, it’s not for the traitor of the Motherland, who is bawling her from abroad, to conduct discussions about who and how should have come out with weapons.

    I can only say that if people were traitors, then not consciously, many simply did not understand what was happening.

    But you made your treacherous choice consciously, sold for cheap, and now get mad now, here, at the Russian-language forum.

    You suddenly became "patriots" of the USSR.
    Not all of a sudden, but precisely because they realized the deception of our Western "partners" and the betrayal of our then leadership.
  • Saburov
    Saburov 20 June 2016 23: 29
    +9
    Quote: Professor
    Then everything is all right. 100 km from Cairo and the cannon shot from Damascus, we were thanks to the UN. Thank you for enlightening.


    So what? The Kremlin blabbed the Americans on the phone, those to you and all. Sneakers for the icon and the truce. Along the way, a change of government.

    Quote: Professor
    How moral? Your plane crashed in Rostov just because you did not know this gradient. How so? Why didn't they tell him the wind shear?


    A phase shift definitely affects it, since you do not know that planes are falling for a thousand other reasons, which are often not voiced.

    Quote: Professor
    He looked. Everything is according to the charter. And underwear, and shoes, and Glilon, and armor with helmets. Even the gloves are in place.
    But this is disgrace. Where is the bronik?


    Two unknown men armed with a pistol and a knife made their way into the room of the soldiers guarding the settlement of Bat Ain (Samaria). The settlement is under the responsibility of the Etzion brigade.
    Threatening with weapons, they took away two M-16 automatic rifles and hid in one of the nearby villages.
    Immediately after receiving the message about the incident, the military went in search of the attackers, but it was not possible to find them or stolen machine guns. Major General Yair Nawe, Commander of the Central District of the Israel Defense Forces, ordered the creation of an investigative commission, headed by an officer with the rank of colonel. In parallel, the military police will investigate the incident, the investigators have already visited the settlement and received the first testimony.
    According to preliminary data, the robbery was committed on criminal and not nationalistic grounds, since the attackers did not harm the soldiers, and only took the machine guns.
    According to military sources, the fact that the Palestinians managed to get into the soldiers' room and that they managed to pick up their weapons is a very serious miscalculation. And this young lady will be pickled and will be taken away if necessary, just want to find those who want to.
  • Saburov
    Saburov 20 June 2016 23: 45
    +8
    And in general, to be honest, I'm tired of reading comments on articles. Administrators !!! Make a separate forum and ban comments. Otherwise, this endless srach and the emission of urine in each other's ears will be endless. Or you don’t understand that you, on a social, religious, national and other level, “quietly” are pushing everyone who is here with their foreheads. More than half of them are young people with a fragile psyche and little knowledge. Moreover, 90% of comments are still either off-topic, or just literal rubbish.
  • Professor
    Professor 21 June 2016 07: 03
    -7
    Quote: Saburov
    So what? The Kremlin blabbed the Americans on the phone, those to you and all. Sneakers for the icon and the truce. Along the way, a change of government.

    And nothing. We did not need either Cairo or Damascus. It’s full of parasites.

    Quote: Saburov
    A phase shift definitely affects it, since you do not know that planes are falling for a thousand other reasons, which are often not voiced.

    And your experts complain about the shift just out of phase. The wind has no nat phase. Materiel.

    Quote: Saburov
    And this young lady will be pickled and will be taken away if necessary, just want to find those who want to.

    And you try to take away. There are many who wish, but there are so few successful attempts that even Saburov knows about them.

    Quote: Saburov
    Otherwise, this endless srach and the emission of urine into one another’s ears will be endless.

    Duc and do not start it. It was worth noting blunders in the article about the allegedly existing battle between the T-90 and Abrams and the supposedly modern TOU among the militias, it began about Merkava, Israel, my personality and other things that are not related to the article. Note that I wrote strictly about the article. hi
  • Saburov
    Saburov 21 June 2016 13: 02
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    And nothing. We didn’t need Cairo or Damascus. It’s full of parasites


    Naturally, otherwise a scribe would come to you. By the way, your superiors understand this for some reason, but for some reason you don’t. Also trying to beat yourself in the chest with a fist and claim that you defeated the USSR? Militarily, for the USSR you were like a ram for a rhinoceros and in direct collision with the regular parts of the USSR and the Navy of the USSR, there would have been no Golan, neither Tel Aviv, nor the Wailing Wall ... to dust.

    Quote: Professor
    And your experts complain about the shift just out of phase. The wind has no nat phase. Materiel.


    It was a sarcasm professor. And everything has a phase.

    Quote: Professor
    And you try to take away. There are many who wish, but there are so few successful attempts that even Saburov knows about them.


    I'll take it, do not go to the fortuneteller. But what about the principle that women should not be beaten? I even know places to which you do not even approach and do not even suspect about their existence.

    Quote: Professor
    Duc and do not start it. It was worth noting blunders in the article about the allegedly existing battle between the T-90 and Abrams and the supposedly modern TOU among the militias, it began about Merkava, Israel, my personality and other things that are not related to the article. Note that I wrote strictly about the article.


    Professor, you are too self-confident. You do not have information on such topics, you must either be a specialist in the profile, or have good intelligence. And fortune telling it on coffee grounds to grandmothers whether there was a tank or not .... And by the way, I’ll tell you a secret ... three samples of the newest Tou there still lit up, maybe it will come to us soon.
  • Professor
    Professor 21 June 2016 13: 16
    -3
    Quote: Saburov
    Naturally, otherwise a scribe would come to you.

    Is it from you? Why didn’t he come when the Arabs were rolled out in the desert? wink

    Quote: Saburov
    Also trying to beat yourself in the chest with a fist and claim that you defeated the USSR?

    It’s as if we were not at war with the USSR, but on the other hand ... look at the world map. Do you see the USSR there?

    Quote: Saburov
    It was a sarcasm professor. And everything has a phase.

    There is no phase gradient in the wind gradient. There is speed. There is a profile. There is no phase.

    Quote: Saburov
    I'll take it, do not go to the fortuneteller. But what about the principle that women should not be beaten? I even know places to which you do not even approach and do not even suspect about their existence.

    Many thought so. I will select. Most of them are already in the next world, the rest in places not so remote and only a few can boast of the success of their actions. No offense to you be told.

    Quote: Saburov
    Professor, you are too self-confident. You do not have information on such topics, you must either be a specialist in the profile, or have good intelligence. And fortune telling it on coffee grounds to grandmothers whether there was a tank or not ....

    ... and while there is no evidence of a clash, this is all OBS.

    Quote: Saburov
    And by the way, I’ll tell you a secret ... three samples of the newest Tou there still lit up, maybe soon will come to us.

    Yeah. The newest. lol For whom the mare is a bride, and for whom the ancient complexes have become "newest". We are, by the way, ready for TOU for a long time.
  • Saburov
    Saburov 21 June 2016 15: 28
    +8
    Quote: Professor
    Is it from you? Why didn’t he come when the Arabs were rolled out in the desert?
    It’s as if we were not at war with the USSR, but on the other hand ... look at the world map. Do you see the USSR there?
    There is no phase gradient in the wind gradient. There is speed. There is a profile. There is no phase.
    Many thought so. I will select. Most of them are already in the next world, the rest in places not so remote and only a few can boast of the success of their actions. No offense to you be told.
    ... and while there is no evidence of a clash, this is all OBS.
    Yeah. Newest. For whom is the mare a bride, and for whom the ancient complexes have become "newest". We are, by the way, ready for TOU for a long time.


    That’s what I don’t like, it’s stupid bragging. Like, we are so cool that even on old messers we will knock down any fifth-generation fighter. Although in my memory, during the four wars of Israel, there were more than 70 failed operations, which (if the Araps were smarter) could lead to disastrous results for Israel. So Professor, you can continue to boast, you will be.
  • Professor
    Professor 21 June 2016 20: 34
    -2
    Nevertheless, the fact is that the Arabs lost despite our 700000000 failed operations. Such a result.


    You better tell me about the "three samples the newest Tows there still lit up "in Syria. lol
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 20 June 2016 23: 55
    +7
    Quote: Professor
    I don’t know about Ukraine, but there were tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" there (among the Arabs). This is no longer a secret.

    And how many advisers did Georgia have on the eve of 2008?
    Quote: Professor
    There was no army or navy in Afghanistan, but the USSR

    ended up under the guidance of traitors.
  • alexej123
    alexej123 21 June 2016 08: 03
    +5
    I am about the same as the overlords of Israel, the Negroid race trained the Lezgins. And then, their students, led by a great democratic western hand, threw warehouses with thousands of weapons. Professor, Georgia, well, not at all mentioned in the topic. This is probably a sample for you, a worthless example for the sample chosen.
  • carbofo
    carbofo 21 June 2016 10: 34
    +6
    There was no army or navy in Afghanistan, and the USSR fled with its tail in its tail. By the way, Georgia did not capitulate 8.8.8. Do you think she defeated you? Strong logic.

    You are raving. there was an order to leave Afghanistan.
    We didn’t need Georgia, no one demanded surrender from it.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 June 2016 15: 12
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Where is the bronik?

    Where repeat lol
  • Dali
    Dali 21 June 2016 17: 52
    0
    Quote: Bort Radist
    Where

    The best defense against attack ... circular capture ...
    laughing repeat laughing
  • Dali
    Dali 22 June 2016 01: 29
    +1
    Is that Israeli girls offended ?! belay laughing
    But I definitely have nothing to do with it.

    This professor sprsil, where the girls have bronik ... well, I scribbled a direct answer where, as well as some methods of self-defense ... And then everything is nishtyak, machine guns on the shoulder ... laughing
  • venik
    venik 20 June 2016 21: 23
    +15
    Quote: Professor
    Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs.


    Stop, stop, stop !!!
    But from this place please DETAILS !!
    These "tens of thousands" when and where ??? Surprisingly interesting!
    Do you know this or, excuse me, lying "as an eyewitness" ?? To me personally, this topic is horrible, how interesting !!!
  • Nightrain
    Nightrain 21 June 2016 00: 43
    +8
    Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs.

    Why are advisers in quotation marks? 60 people soldiers and officers died from the USSR. In all Arab-Israeli wars. Explicitly not directly involved. Even if you include separate episodes with Russian air defense calculations and pilots there. No advisers will change anything if the regular army of a country does not know how / does not want to fight. Georgia is a vivid example of this; for several years, the Georgians prepared and supplied the NATO and Israel by the way. How it ended - everyone in the know. End Yermolkozakatelstvie Jews, as serious uncles you did not even close fight.
  • t-62
    t-62 16 August 2016 18: 01
    +1
    But we didn’t conquer Afghanistan. We prevented the Americans from delivering their missiles — we went out — the Americans are your friends now. Read how many schools we built at the plants of power plants — we built them and guarded them — not from the Afghans — they welcomed them from the Afghans American mercenaries - who were paid $ 50 for an officer; $ 100 for a tank; helicopter for so much; nothing personal - business man. How many Americans have built? - Destroyed - YES. Legalized the drug that comes to Russia, including. We left because
    THE CHIEF TRADER HAS COME-GORBI-AS IT IS LOVELY CALLED BY OUR FRIENDS
  • tracker
    tracker 20 June 2016 18: 58
    +14
    Yes, one MIG-25 flew over Israel and immediately the arrogance was asleep and Moshe Dayan, if I'm not mistaken, suddenly silk became
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 19: 00
      -39%
      Quote: Pathfinder
      Yes, one MIG-25 flew over Israel and immediately the arrogance was asleep and Moshe Dayan, if I'm not mistaken, suddenly silk became

      Please, voice the chronology of the events you are describing, and we will laugh. wink
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 20: 48
        +22
        Your country was created with the blessing of Stalin, and you the USSR cf ... e. You are a boor and you cannot be proud of your grandfather, who fought against Nazism. You support and develop your Nazism. You read and analyze your comments. Each word is full of hatred and contempt for other nations. It’s very bad that it’s impossible to explain to you more simply, they will be banned. You are a Nazi.
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 21 June 2016 17: 35
      0
      tracker
      Yes, one MIG-25 flew over Israel and immediately the arrogance was asleep and Moshe Dayan, if I'm not mistaken, suddenly silk became



      In 1982, the Mig-25 was shot down by a modified Isaillorm Hawk missile.
      More Arabs flew over it over Israel


      ps some records of the Mig-25 are not broken so far, the car was good

      PPS Moshe Dayan By this time, had not served in the army for a long time ...
  • Polkanov
    Polkanov 20 June 2016 17: 21
    +23
    ... and in captivity - your officers do the same with a needle? Less "kipish" and flaunt your officers. Sometimes it makes me sick of your posts and posts, dear ...
  • yehat
    yehat 20 June 2016 17: 29
    +21
    why are you lying, they have been fighting for 70 years!
    if they really fought like that, Israel and Somalia would be synonymous stop
    I do not deny certain successes in conflicts, however, I really do not need to hang noodles on my ears either. How many thousands of shells fell on Israel last week? zero? Oh really?
  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 20 June 2016 17: 44
    +26
    Quote: Professor
    . We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are dirty and dirty barefoot, because they are OFFICERS.

    If everything is cracked up in Israel, as in Syria, then they will go the same way - you can have no doubt.
  • okroshka79
    okroshka79 20 June 2016 20: 57
    +10
    Who are we"? Runaways from the former USSR or local all their lives? In Russian it is called "we plowed". What regiment did you serve in?
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 21 June 2016 06: 41
      0
      okroshka79
      Who are we"? Runaways from the former USSR or local all their lives?


      In Israel, almost all the locals are former "runaways", not you as a father, not as a father as a grandfather.
      You can also replace "fugitive" with RETURNING
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 33
        +2
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        You can also replace "runaways" with RETURNED


        Joke: an Israeli, still a Soviet citizen, bombarded the KGB with letters: I want to return to my historical homeland. I got it. He returned. But, for some reason, I didn’t like it. And he wrote a new letter: I want to return to my prehistoric homeland ... Okay. I'll tell you another joke ...
  • Pereira
    Pereira 20 June 2016 21: 00
    +10
    Professor (6) IL Today, 14: 28
    We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS.


    Oh, don’t promise. They say that God has a fair sense of humor.
  • dauria
    dauria 20 June 2016 23: 09
    +10
    Usually we exchange one of our 1000 such


    lol The branch turned out amazing. Professor, I begin to doubt that you are from the USSR, moreover, that you are a Jew, wink otherwise they would know the saying "Bite a bit ". Eck you got carried away ...

    However, rightly so, they earned honestly. wassat
  • Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 21 June 2016 05: 14
    +5
    It’s strange why the Ishil’s men don’t go to Israel with whom they don’t care who to fight with. They would have fought with the Israelis first, and then with their Muslims. I think they agreed with the Americans and Israelis. We quietly help you, and you assad soak. And in Iraq, so fight on the little things.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 21 June 2016 09: 54
    +3
    Have you fought for 70 years? sorry, but with whom? with the same rags. Well, of course, even with Egypt, Syria and Jordan, they fought for 6 whole days under the wing of the USA, bombing all the equipment at airfields .... Your country has never been in a serious mix, when the very existence of the state was at stake ..
  • lukewarm
    lukewarm 21 June 2016 11: 48
    +6
    Fighting on the other side, regrettably. On the side of the aggressors, in the same camp with the United States. It is clear that you will not be naked with such allies. But this does not add respect to you.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 21 June 2016 14: 47
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    Usually we have one of our exchanges on 1000 such. We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS. hi

    With all due respect, against which tanks are Israeli officers currently fighting?
    With all due respect, with whom are Israeli tanks now making fire contact?
    With all due respect, why not Israeli tankers in their tanks to participate in the tank biathlon? If Alabino is not suitable, you can invite Canadians to renew the Canadian Army Trophy.
  • Dali
    Dali 21 June 2016 17: 34
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers do not go scrubby and unwashed and barefoot because they are OFFICERS

    In fact, you fought only once, with Egypt ... and even then, you were not there then ...

    And all the rest, more than skirmishes on foreign territory, can not be called.
  • Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 19: 50
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    We have been fighting for 70 years


    I'm sorry, I'm drinking. But I remembered the words from the song, which, as you know, you simply cannot throw out: "We have been fighting for 70 years. It seemed to us that life is a battle! But according to new intelligence data, we fought with ourselves!" Can you, as Colonel Vasin and his young wife, reconsider, so to speak, priorities?
  • Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 01
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    We have been fighting for 70 years


    By the way, you like to nail your opponent to a stern pillar named fact. The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet people lasted 1418 days and nights. A description of each day of hostilities can be found in the archives. Description 25550 days of continuous hostilities of the Israeli army with unwashed Mowgli in the studio! You are welcome...
  • Idiot
    Idiot 21 June 2016 20: 17
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    our officers are scummy and dirty barefoot do not go because they are OFFICERS.


    Any army in the world is only then considered combat ready (not counting the Eastern Front) if it survived in Afghanistan. I know what I'm saying. I myself was not, thank God, but my uncle fought there for three years. He was seriously wounded - he was in a coma for nine days, returned back and a year later, not on his own initiative, was relocated to the Union. We both turned on this subject, in the best sense of the word, therefore I know a lot. So: Israeli officers in the conditions of military operations in Afghanistan, if they are really military officers, in combat conditions they would least think about their appearance. And all the more, the most important thing that I’m trying to put into thought is that soldier who considers the unwashed, neobody, (oh, horror !!!) with chicks on his fingers, and maybe even picking his fingers on his nose (or somewhere else), the Afghan is a frivolous opponent, who, according to my uncle, will not see his grandchildren. By the way, if anyone in the world of a warrior is Afghans. Once the entire British army was slaughtered, only the dog survived ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 June 2016 22: 24
      -1
      Quote: pft, fkb
      Quote: Professor
      our officers are scummy and dirty barefoot do not go because they are OFFICERS.


      Any army in the world is only then considered combat ready (not counting the Eastern Front) if it survived in Afghanistan. I know what I'm saying ..

      Well then, there is no chance for China to become combat-ready, and Ukraine was noted
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Well then, there is no chance for China to become combat-ready, and Ukraine was noted


        Who told you that China has an efficient army? What victories did this army gain? On the second question: I do not know the state of Ukraine, especially how Ukraine was noted in Afghanistan ...
      2. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 06
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Well then, there is no chance for China to become combat-ready, and Ukraine was noted


        Who told you that China has an efficient army? What victories did this army gain? On the second question: I do not know the state of Ukraine, especially how Ukraine was noted in Afghanistan ...
      3. Dali
        Dali 22 June 2016 01: 07
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Well then, there is no chance for China to become combat-ready, and Ukraine was noted

        What was noted ... in boilers, total drunkenness, evasion of the army, fascists-banderlog-insinuators-killers ... continue to list or do you want to try it yourself ?!
  • Victorio
    Victorio 22 June 2016 00: 32
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Usually we have one of our exchanges on 1000 such. We’ve been fighting for 70 years, but our officers are not dirty and barefoot, because they are OFFICERS. hi

    ==
    in such circumstances, your officers would look something like this
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 22 June 2016 07: 19
    +2
    you already unsubscribed Syria is fighting the fifth year. Syria is not the USSR, much less not! you look at the old chronicles of the war for your independence were not nearly better.
  • Ustinov 055 055
    Ustinov 055 055 24 June 2016 15: 33
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    barefoot do not go because they are OFFICERS

    Where were those officers when Hitler fired at your ancestors in the stoves in Europe, you are like a cancerous tumor, suck out all the juices from all, only Russians through X
  • VIK_1961
    VIK_1961 28 June 2016 14: 59
    0
    Look at the chronicle of the "Chechen" wars. You see, there’s no time to devour, to fight, you don’t have time to damn it, not just shave.
  • Angara
    Angara 20 June 2016 16: 24
    +12
    Quote: NEXUS
    behind the shoulders of this "ragamount" combat practice and skill, which in no school will not give.

    You are lying, dear, the Syrians were trained at the ChVVKU (Tank Institute). And tactics were taught to them and strategy and taught to drive i.e. full course of study good
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 June 2016 16: 42
      +13
      Quote: Angara
      You are lying, dear, the Syrians were trained at the ChVVKU (Tank Institute). And tactics were taught to them and strategy and taught to drive i.e. full course of study

      For the past 5 years, he also sat at the PMCU at his desk? They took an accelerated course and went to the front line. And military practice is not grades in the grades ... in the war, if you don’t pass, there will be no retake in the spring, and there will be a hospital at best Well, at worst, you know what. hi
      1. Angara
        Angara 20 June 2016 17: 11
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        For the past 5 years, he also sat at a desk at the ChVVKU?

        Let's take a dear minus signer in order: firstly, 2016-5 years = 2011 right? ChMVKU Ch. Mordyukov closed in 2009. Secondly, yes they were not given the entire course of general educational disciplines. Full urs training-general subjects = accelerated courses. But as many tank crews taught in Chelyabinsk, they know.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 June 2016 17: 14
          +7
          Quote: Angara
          Let's take a dear minus signer in order:

          Dear, for your information, I rarely post posts. And in your case, I did not make an exception. These are not my minuses.
          1. Angara
            Angara 20 June 2016 17: 26
            +5
            Quote: NEXUS
            These are not my cons.

            I apologize!
  • SergeBS
    SergeBS 21 June 2016 18: 11
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    but that behind the shoulders of this "ragamuffin" combat practice and skill

    Practice - I BELIEVE! But which one is a BIG question. for 19-20 sec. roller protrudes behind his right shoulder butt. Non-standard (to put it mildly) personal weapon for the tank COMMANDER. And this uncle's sprout is too big for a tanker. 20 centimeters "extra".
  • Starik72
    Starik72 20 June 2016 14: 31
    +22
    Moderators, I haven’t rated anyone yet! When setting the minus to the professor, a positive assessment popped up, there was -1, I put -1 and popped + 2, and YOUR warning is that you can’t often evaluate the same commentator. Please deal with this turmoil. I often noticed this action. Sincerely.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 20 June 2016 15: 51
      +10
      Quote: Starik72
      When setting the minus to the professor, a positive assessment jumped out, it was -1, I put -1 and jumped out +2, and YOUR warning is that you cannot often evaluate the same commentator.

      I am not a moder, but nothing bad happened.
      1. Probably you with the minimum pause give marks to the same user.
      2. In this case, a warning pops up in accordance with the conditions specified on the site.
      3. Do not forget that besides you, other readers are also wailing, in this case, these are those to whom the words "prokhvessora" honey in their hearts (his accomplices), and there are at least 30 such people here. Update the page more often!
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 20 June 2016 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: Starik72
      Moderators, I haven’t rated anyone yet! When setting the minus to the professor, a positive assessment popped up, there was -1, I put -1 and popped + 2, and YOUR warning is that you can’t often evaluate the same commentator. Please deal with this turmoil. I often noticed this action. Sincerely.

      Move the thumb arrow to the grade. And quite often, 1-2 pluses and minuses pop up next to it. These are those who voted while you were on the page and their vote has not been counted. When you vote their voices are automatically entered, that's all.
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 June 2016 22: 11
      +1
      Quote: Starik72
      Moderators, I haven’t rated anyone yet! When setting the minus to the professor, a positive assessment popped up, there was -1, I put -1 and popped + 2, and YOUR warning is that you can’t often evaluate the same commentator. Please deal with this turmoil. I often noticed this action. Sincerely.

      I am not a moderator, but I will explain to you. This site is read by many readers at the same time. And when you put one minus, then someone put 3 plus, the total result is 2 plus. Do not forget, you are not alone on Military Review.
  • Starik72
    Starik72 20 June 2016 14: 46
    +32
    Professor. Aren't you ashamed of such a title, insulting a person who is completely unfamiliar to YOU? Only for this alone YOU need to be mercilessly banned!
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 20 June 2016 16: 00
      +17
      Quote: Starik72
      Professor. You are not ashamed of such a title, insulting a person who is not at all familiar

      He is not ashamed, because he, where there was a conscience, the phallus has grown.
      1. Sergey Polt
        Sergey Polt 20 June 2016 16: 23
        +11
        Maaaaahonky such, well, how conscience ...
    2. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 20 June 2016 18: 18
      +7
      He’s not a professor, he probably bought a diploma at the transition inexpensively :)
  • Verdun
    Verdun 20 June 2016 14: 48
    +29
    Quote: Professor

    Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up.

    It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like? Carefully shaved and trimmed, dressed in a ironed uniform and white shirt? Yes, and be sure to glasses in a thin gilt frame ... smile If someone does not like the appearance of the opponent, this does not mean at all that this opponent is wrong.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 June 2016 15: 39
      +18
      Quote: Verdun
      It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like? Carefully shaved and trimmed, dressed in a ironed uniform and white shirt? Yes, and be sure to have glasses in a thin gilt frame ... If someone does not like the appearance of the opponent, this does not mean that this opponent is wrong.

      From ancient times, in ancient times in the front rows of the central regiment stood the most experienced and living warriors in the same robe to barefoot and with an ax or club to the edge, without armor, shields and leather knees ... and they held a blow.
      As for our "Vladimir", he is a direct descendant of the 72nd, which is "the most belligerent tank in the world." but also in the mountains and wooded areas and in cities, etc., where the Merkava is simply by definition deadly harmful, however, like Abrams.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 June 2016 16: 47
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: Verdun
        It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like? Carefully shaved and trimmed, dressed in a ironed uniform and white shirt? Yes, and be sure to have glasses in a thin gilt frame ... If someone does not like the appearance of the opponent, this does not mean that this opponent is wrong.

        From ancient times, in ancient times in the front rows of the central regiment stood the most experienced and living warriors in the same robe to barefoot and with an ax or club to the edge, without armor, shields and leather knees ... and they held a blow.
        As for our "Vladimir", he is a direct descendant of the 72nd, which is "the most belligerent tank in the world." but also in the mountains and wooded areas and in cities, etc., where the Merkava is simply by definition deadly harmful, however, like Abrams.

        The Israelites did a merkava to themselves. Minimum mobility, minimum power reserve, maximum protection and dust resistance (if I may say so). I'm afraid if he gets into the forest, mud, in the rain .... It will be just a pile of iron. For everything you need a dress, for indestructibility, too.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 June 2016 16: 51
          +10
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          I'm afraid if he gets into the forest, mud, in the rain .... It will be just a pile of iron.

          I once said that the Merkava is too "a big target", and in many combat situations it becomes ... sorry for the braces, an "armored dry closet with a gun" (there is a dry closet in the Merkava, if someone doesn't know) with a sticker, " made in Israel ".
    2. alexej123
      alexej123 20 June 2016 16: 04
      +4
      And with the Order of the Iron Cross around his neck.
    3. activator
      activator 20 June 2016 20: 04
      +10
      Quote: Verdun
      It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like? Carefully shaved and trimmed, dressed in
      after watching the movie, the white tiger seems to me that all tankers should look so a bit tickled differently. It's not about how he is dressed, but what is in his eyes .. it really hooked me on this film.
    4. plebs
      plebs 21 June 2016 18: 16
      +3
      It’s interesting, but what does the esteemed Professor think a real tanker should look like?
      There was such a joke in Soviet times.
      The son and father in the bathhouse, three black people come in, the son asks - is dad blacks? the father answers - no son, this is the tankmen from the exercises.
      And why does one have white?
      And he managed to pop home.
      1. Idiot
        Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 44
        +2
        Quote: plebs
        There was such a joke in Soviet times. The son and father in the bathhouse, three black people come in, the son asks - is dad blacks? the father answers - no son, this is the tankmen from the exercises. And why does one have white? And he managed to pop home.


        Another joke: Teachings. The tank has a track problem. Summer. Heat. Tankers work and swear. A fairy sat on the tower and asked: tankers, do you want sex? Tankers rejoiced. Fairy is pretty. Yes, they say, we want !. The fairy waved her hand and the tower fell off the tank ...
  • Starik72
    Starik72 20 June 2016 14: 53
    +13
    Professor. Aren't you ashamed of such a title, insulting a person who is completely unfamiliar to YOU? Only for this alone YOU need to be mercilessly banned!
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 June 2016 22: 21
      +9
      Quote: Starik72
      Professor. Aren't you ashamed of such a title, insulting a person who is completely unfamiliar to YOU? Only for this alone YOU need to be mercilessly banned!

      Usually, when talking about tanks, the word ban means cleaning the cannon with a banner. It is interesting to look at the professor, who is being banned by a banner, it’s clear what place.
  • Scoun
    Scoun 20 June 2016 15: 14
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up.

    The people pounding the minuses like a machine gun laughing
    Comrades, but he's right about something. He is only wrong about finding fault with the barefoot Mowgli.
    If you watch the video itself then.
    1. the video is filmed monstrously, the operator is the operator, but who put together the video series? Pour the belt.
    2. Voice acting the second slopping moment.

    Well, guys, if you shoot a video about the T-90 tank having excellent reviews, then prepare the material itself properly as well as the video at the OBS level (one grandmother said). hi
    1. alexej123
      alexej123 20 June 2016 16: 07
      +16
      So the movie is not staged. This is not the West and Israel with its PR approach. Filmed not by professionals, which on the contrary speaks in favor of the video.
    2. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 20: 51
      +6
      This is not Hollywood for you.
  • L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 20 June 2016 15: 22
    +17
    Tattered and fighting. And they fight well.
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  • Koshak
    Koshak 20 June 2016 16: 04
    +16
    Quote: Professor
    Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up. And about the comment, when I read it then and answered.

    If any "native" can master this tank, this is the best ADVERTISING.
    And at the expense of the "ragamuffin". Our Soviet (red) army in quilted jackets, windings and earflaps broke the back of the best military machine in Europe. By the way, if not for her, there would be neither your Israel, nor you, nor Jews in general, and you would not post any crap here. The ashes of your ancestors would fertilize the fields of the Reich.
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 18: 36
      -23%
      Quote: Koshak
      The ashes of your ancestors would fertilize the fields of the Reich.

      And yours?
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 20: 54
        +16
        And you do not poke strangers. The ashes of our ancestors are sacred and we do not beg for money for it. However, it’s at your genetic level to sell all the saints and not only.
        1. Idiot
          Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 51
          +4
          Quote: serezhasoldatow
          And you do not poke strangers. The ashes of our ancestors are sacred and we do not beg for money for it. However, it’s at your genetic level to sell all the saints and not only.


          Understand that a creature with the intelligence of a teenager is trying to talk with us all! It makes no sense to communicate with him. For example, I generally ignore him.
      2. Absurdidat
        Absurdidat 21 June 2016 01: 07
        +9
        Professor, well, you campaigned on this topic altogether slipped into the region. Nowhere else to go. Scoundrel.
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  • alexander 2
    alexander 2 22 June 2016 05: 15
    +1
    An officer is judged primarily by how he fights, and not how he looks.
    I know one thing: if the T-90 is good and there are few such tanks, then they will not trust anyone.
    1. atalef
      atalef 22 June 2016 05: 29
      -1
      Quote: Alexander 2
      An officer is judged primarily by how he fights, and not how he looks.
      I know one thing: if the T-90 is good and there are few such tanks, then no one will trust him

      That's how I doubt that barefoot and in a T-shirt belay - this is a good soldier (officer), well, I don’t believe that allegations - like barefoot to feel the pedals and the tank --- deserve admiration.
  • Khariton
    Khariton 20 June 2016 14: 13
    +26
    Quote: Professor
    So what? The Abrams, even in the hands of the Iraqi Hezbollah, have shone more than once, but this does not mean that the Abrams entered the battle with the T-90. Where are the evidence?

    Professor Hezbollah of Iran seems to be ... (you already have it in the liver ..)))) Thing we don’t need docks .. We just wet it silently and without witnesses! When you destroy, no one thing docks with you has the right to demand .. (even the United Nations)))) hi Take it easy, please!
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 14: 15
      -34%
      Quote: Chariton
      Professor Hezbollah of Iran seems to be ... (you already have it in your liver ..))))

      Hezbollah is Lebanese in Lebanon, and Iraqi in Iraq. "Hezbollah" means "Party of Alah"

      Quote: Chariton
      Thing we do not need docks ..

      And we need. OBS I do not believe. request
  • serkhan
    serkhan 20 June 2016 14: 23
    +29

    Yes, you are the face of this rascal officer look at how he walks barefoot and everything about him will become clear to you.

    And what do you dislike about this officer, what do you think should go after a fight in a well-dressed white collar?
    Yes, and what is so suffering that Abrams with the T90 joined the battle? Abrams received from the 72nd lyule ..
    1. atalef
      atalef 22 June 2016 05: 30
      +1
      Quote: serkhan
      And what do you dislike about this officer, what do you think should go after a fight in a well-dressed white collar?

      Well, his shirt is explained very simply in T-kah there are no air conditioners and in the heat in + 40 in the shade, he could walk in his underpants.
  • Abbra
    Abbra 20 June 2016 14: 59
    +77
    I know a bunch of savages who wear boots and wear decent suits ... One, for example, is Obama.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 15: 06
      +19
      This is + good
      Quote: Abbra
      I know a bunch of savages who wear boots and wear decent suits ... One, for example, is Obama.
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 20 June 2016 15: 27
        +51
        Thank. And also I know men in bast shoes and women with a horn ... France also remembers them ...
    2. arnulla
      arnulla 20 June 2016 16: 20
      +4
      ))))))))))))
  • Andrey K
    Andrey K 20 June 2016 15: 10
    +31
    Quote: Professor

    PS
    Yes, you are the face of this rascal officer look at how he walks barefoot and everything about him will become clear to you.
    Technique in the hands of a savage ...

    You have not seen the faces of my officers good
    In the second campaign, at one of the outposts, I had 12 soldiers (from starley to major), our frostbitten men, subordinate. Allowed them not to shave. What does the appearance and combat skills have to do with it? What are you talking about? Does a beard or a barefoot dishonor the rank of officer?
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 21 June 2016 07: 03
      +1
      Israeli generals during the war 73.

      As you can see, they are already dressed not quite in accordance with the charter, but in uniform and boots. shoulder straps are the same.

      all who at least a couple of times pulled the trigger knows that the database is not a prank at the parade, however, soldiers must maintain a minimal military appearance. otherwise you can turn into some sort of gang formation.

      ps how can barefoot be controlled / located in a tank?
      1. atalef
        atalef 22 June 2016 05: 33
        +2
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        ps how can barefoot be controlled / located in a tank?

        This would be easier to appreciate for armor nails wassat
    2. atalef
      atalef 22 June 2016 05: 31
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      Allowed them not to shave. What does the appearance and combat skills have to do with it,

      Compare the same - do not shave or barefoot laughing
  • kenig1
    kenig1 20 June 2016 15: 31
    +21
    You, without American patronage, it’s best that for you this second fortieth year in the desert would have been wound, but without Moses.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 20 June 2016 15: 46
    +9
    Quote: RUSS
    Last year, ISIS defeated the 4th Panzer Division of the Iraqi Army and took Mosul, after which, according to unverified information, it became the proud owner of the following arsenal:

    40 M1A1 Abrams tanks worth $ 4.3 million apiece

    Quote: Professor
    The Abrams, even in the hands of the Iraqi Hezbollah, have shone more than once, but this does not mean that the Abrams were in battle with the T-90.

    If ISIS has Abrams, then there will be something to work on and our T-90 and "Vampires" and "Attack" with the Ka-52.
    At the same time, since the seizure of armored vehicles by the Ishilovites took place, then very soon, the meeting of the T-90 with Abrams will take place. If before that, our helicopter pilots or "ragamuffins" with "Vampires" will not grind the captured Mattress tanks for an advantage.
  • yehat
    yehat 20 June 2016 16: 29
    +1
    somehow you speak arrogantly.
    first make sure that you have real information, not guesses,
    and then draw conclusions.
  • kazanskii
    kazanskii 20 June 2016 17: 03
    +8
    What does "ragamuffin" mean? This soldier protects his homeland and you and me, by the way, from terrorists. Show at least a little respect for these soldiers. And do not stoop to the level of ignorance!
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 20 June 2016 17: 30
      +23
      Quote: kazanskii
      What does "ragamuffin" mean? This soldier protects his homeland and you and me, by the way, from terrorists. Show at least a little respect for these soldiers. And do not stoop to the level of ignorance!

      In fact, I am surprised by the snobbery of those who believe that a soldier or officer in any conditions should look dignified and civilized. This is desirable, I do not argue. However, in the course of hostilities it often becomes unattainable. Those who saw the footage of the military chronicle can recall what the German soldiers and officers looked like in the winter of 1941. Erzatz-boots made of straw, frozen ears, tied with women's scarves ... It looks a little like the appearance of a Wehrmacht soldier from a poster. And this is not to mention the fact that in different cultures a decent view is understood in different ways. And somewhere it’s considered decent to shave your face and wear a tie, and somewhere to grow a mustache and beard and wear a hat. To consider a person as savage only because his appearance does not correspond to your ideas about a certain ideal is the deepest error.
  • Dr. Bermental
    Dr. Bermental 20 June 2016 17: 56
    +1
    I am also a supporter of a sound assessment and not propaganda ... although maybe a beard is right, but there are no facts)))
  • yehat
    yehat 20 June 2016 18: 55
    +8
    Quote: Professor

    Yes, you are the face of this rascal officer look at how he walks barefoot and everything about him will become clear to you.

    Germans tankers after protracted battles looked in 2MV exactly the same
    for example, the well-known Carius writes about this in his book during his retreat from Leningrad. The Germans had a similar situation in the battles near Stalingrad.

    so your purely ignoble look is off topic
    1. bocsman
      bocsman 20 June 2016 20: 37
      +6
      How then everyone missed that "Mowgli" himself gave an explanation for his barefoot. He feels the work of the tank mechanisms better!
      1. Professor
        Professor 20 June 2016 21: 12
        -12%
        Quote: bocsman
        How then everyone missed that "Mowgli" himself gave an explanation for his barefoot. He feels the work of the tank mechanisms better!

        What? In a modern T-90 tank, in order to feel the work of the tank mechanisms, you need to be barefoot? It is a pity Schumacher did not know. He would have taken off his Ferrari.

        Quote: NIKNN
        Oh professor, don’t you really understand that by your fasting you disgrace the whole nation, that’s where the anti-advertising of the whole nation ...

        Actually, here I represent here only my humble person, and not a country or nation.
        1. Rust0626
          Rust0626 21 June 2016 17: 47
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          What? In a modern T-90 tank, in order to feel the work of the tank mechanisms, you need to be barefoot?

          When I worked at a factory, I had an apparatchik who claimed that he felt the reactor. He put his hands to the walls of the reactor, where there was no insulation and listened to him like that. Oddly enough, he "cooked" the best polystyrene.
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 20 June 2016 20: 23
    +11
    Oh professor, don’t you really understand that by your fasting you disgrace the whole nation, that’s where the anti-advertising of the whole nation ...
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 20 June 2016 22: 21
    +4
    T-90 is an excellent tank, it is known throughout the tank building community. But I look to our Prokhvesor this is not known ... request Or maybe he just needs to get out of the "twilight"? lol
  • derik1970
    derik1970 21 June 2016 11: 17
    -4
    Forgive them Professor ... Fooled in trend ... sad but true ... wassat
    1. Dali
      Dali 22 June 2016 01: 22
      +1
      Quote: derik1970
      Forgive them Professor ... Fooled in trend ... sad but true ..

      You chtol light in the night ...?! belay laughing
      Apologize for yourself personally, if there is a reason ... and others will somehow decide without such clever mattresses ...
  • gav6757
    gav6757 21 June 2016 12: 31
    +3
    And, what are you, so smart, you don’t go in formation and don’t wear a sword belt ??? negative
  • Foresterer
    Foresterer 21 June 2016 18: 57
    +2
    An unshaven Syrian can’t be controlled by definition, and a fat hamburger eater with an abrams can be, do you think? What kind of people are you, huh?
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  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 22 June 2016 07: 00
    +2
    and you take a look at the faces of their guys. you have a current girl in army uniform are beautiful.
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 22 June 2016 07: 10
    +1
    I read your comments! I want to fend off you. apparently there is an offensive. Replacements are not expected. you kind of served know how it doesn’t wash for days and don’t change clothes. most likely the brow has leg problems. wash yours every three days. I watched the report of our journalist M. KOZHUKHOV about hesitating. and how would you look being on the front line constantly on the march with battles ????
  • D. Dan
    D. Dan 26 June 2016 08: 41
    +1
    Excuse me, but this savage has more brains than many civilized ones. People are fighting for their homeland in our tank. Why didn’t he please you so much?
  • volot-voin
    volot-voin 20 June 2016 14: 31
    +13
    Quote: RUSS
    Last year, ISIS defeated the 4th Panzer Division of the Iraqi Army and took Mosul, after which, according to unverified information, it became the proud owner of the following arsenal:

    40 M1A1 Abrams tanks worth $ 4.3 million apiece

    If these divisions themselves did not cross the banner of the Islamic State. There were too many evil Sunni Iraqis after the overthrow of Hussein.
    A pleasant response from the Syrian tankman, so that only Russian tanks of a new generation would continue to be better than Russian tanks.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 20 June 2016 17: 14
      +4
      If these divisions themselves did not cross the banner of the Islamic State.,
      it was easier there - the government gave the order not to engage in clashes with (500) bearded. The Iraqi parliament wanted to conduct an investigation, but the Americans banned. Here and think who gave the order to transfer the IS base.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 20 June 2016 22: 29
      0
      Quote: volot-voin
      A pleasant response from the Syrian tankman, so that only Russian tanks of a new generation would continue to be better than Russian tanks.

      And they are already there! In the troops, the envy of the enemy! MBT "Armata" T-14 good Interrupting a production tank of such a lineup in the world yes
  • vpm
    vpm 20 June 2016 14: 33
    +4
    Hezbollah also seems to have:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItK0Jb88quw
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 20 June 2016 14: 36
    +8
    Quote: RUSS
    Iraqi Prime Minister Al-Abadi admitted that a year ago, during the seizure of the city of Mosul, ISIS fighters recaptured more than two thousand American army ATVs from the Iraqi army. A statement came a few weeks after the Pentagon announced the seizure of Abrams tanks by extremists in Iraq. Jihadists have already mastered the captured technique and are transferring it to Syria.
    Last year, ISIS defeated the 4th Panzer Division of the Iraqi Army and took Mosul, after which, according to unverified information, it became the proud owner of the following arsenal:

    40 M1A1 Abrams tanks worth $ 4.3 million apiece

    An excellent supply of ISIS heavy equipment! And most importantly, no one is to blame!
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 20 June 2016 14: 57
    +9
    Given the presence of the US army and allies in Iraq, this news suggests that this is a hidden equipment of jihadists with modern weapons. bully
  • VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 20 June 2016 21: 21
    +1
    40 tanks yes it is such a force compared to the Baltic states.
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 22 June 2016 06: 58
    0
    Citizens you believe in this tulk 40 abrams on 4-lyama Baku. Yankee rich. but ent sales for them gorgeous. I'm not an expert. but I’ve scrubbed the discoverer. so if we had tanks, we would go to re-melting. and they restore completely burned-out cars. cheaper than a new buy. the plant showed where to fix the entrails. Abrams in the field are not suitable for repair themselves, they are not suitable for repair, and the Achilles' heel is well known to grenade launchers.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 20 June 2016 13: 59
    +61
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    Arab praises the Russian tank! Like a sickle in Jewish I ... tsam! laughing
    Abnormally yes? Already the first comment, not in patience? laughing
    1. Safer
      Safer 20 June 2016 14: 06
      +16
      I suppose - by no means Jewish. There are citizens there with an interesting mentality. Those who in due time left the "bloody scoop" and their descendants. Taking with you a lot of interesting things. And for them everything that is Russian is bad. Back in the early XNUMXs, a real Jew told me about this when I had the opportunity to visit the holy land.
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 20 June 2016 15: 26
        +5
        That’s why they and they will be paid a pension so that they pour more dirt. Not the government with us, but a complete suck with the traitors.
      2. Skubudu
        Skubudu 20 June 2016 15: 36
        +10
        Out of 404, a lot of Bandera's mud flowed into Israel, which at the genetic level hates Russia. Most of the representatives of the Promised Land of 404 written here.
      3. alexej123
        alexej123 21 June 2016 17: 57
        +2
        A joke on the topic, two Jewish emigrants are talking: "What are you talking about? Remember, you left not from the KGB, but from the OBKHSS." fellow
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 June 2016 14: 30
      +32
      33 Watcher hi
      Abnormally yes? Already the first comment, not in patience? laughing

      laughing Now, if that "Merkava" or "Leopard-2" were then yes! But these tanks for a civilized war with a strong rear are made !!! And in the video a warrior is standing barefoot. A man's legs are tired. Legs are resting! Here are the Jewish soldiers! they do not rest. And the feet of the Jews do not get tired of roaming about in the desert. So I'll ask you for the "Professor". By the way, if the "Merkava" has a tower in front of it jammed. Is it true that the driver becomes the pharaoh in the crypt? If so, then surely some drivers are not, be not Jews. Here are the citizens of Israel but not Jews laughing
      There and the British thought that the most, most football fans! laughing And it turned out to be a herd of bucks, good for nothing sheep!
  • Khariton
    Khariton 20 June 2016 14: 03
    +12
    Quote: Professor
    According to him, "T-90 showed itself better than anyone, including in the battle with the" Abrams "," which are available to the terrorists.

    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    “The militants are very well armed. The West supplies them with modern anti-tank systems. They use Russian "Cornets" and "Contests", American TOWs, as well as improvised weapons against us, ”added the tanker.

    Tou modern? Oh well.

    The professor, as always, is the first ... Here, how here! A smart little man ... bully Yes, your carrots are the most ... (until they ran into ours ..))))
  • Altona
    Altona 20 June 2016 14: 12
    +16
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    ---------------------
    Professor, especially for you I incur the anger of the site moderators. Nobody saw the Jewish Yahweh of hosts, and many saw the Syrian Jesus Christ. Shalom good to you, dear! hi
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 22 June 2016 12: 51
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Nobody saw the Jewish Yahweh of hosts, and many saw the Syrian Jesus Christ.



      In fact, this is one and the same person. God has many names.
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 20 June 2016 14: 13
    +20
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    And why is Abrams better than the T-90? Does it have better optical systems, better electronic warfare systems, maybe shells are better?
    Professor, you sometimes revered you, you extol Western technology into absolute, and belittle Russian technology to the point of futility.
    Abrams may be better, but "best" is only a few% possible. And not just once. Much also depends on the crew of the tank, who will notice the enemy faster, aim and shoot, and he won.

    Quote: Professor
    Tou modern? Oh well.

    It depends on what modifications. Well, yes, it’s better not to turn off the curtain ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 14: 18
      -27%
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      And why is Abrams better than the T-90?

      And where did I compare them at all? No need to write about the battles that were not there. That's all.

      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      Professor, you sometimes revered you, you extol Western technology into absolute, and belittle Russian technology to the point of futility.

      And you have glitches?

      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      It depends on what modifications. Well, yes, it’s better not to turn off the curtain ...

      Do you want materiel? OK. What are the TOUs of militias in Syria? wink
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 June 2016 15: 23
        +25
        Quote: Professor
        And where did I compare them at all? No need to write about the battles that were not there. That's all.

        Professor, we have eyewitness testimony here, actually. Yes, eyewitnesses can sometimes make mistakes, sometimes they can lie. In general, the source is far from 100%. But where is you going? Do you know everything in Syria? Maybe you from the Heavenly Office every morning put a report on the table, who fought where, how and what came of it?
        How do you know if there were T-90 battles against the Abrams there or not? Where is the confidence that this could not be, because it could never be?
        If you possess some facts - we ask you to welcome, enlighten us, the unknowing. And if this is your personal IMHO, is it not too much categorization attached to it?
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 June 2016 17: 26
          -14%
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Professor, we have eyewitness testimony here, actually.

          Bearded and barefoot Mowgli? Did he see the battle of Abrams with the T-90?

          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Do you know everything in Syria?

          Yes, I know something. I see her not only on TV and communicate with the Syrians not only through RT.

          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          How do you know if there were T-90 battles against the Abrams there or not? Where is the confidence that this could not be, because it could never be?

          It could. But so far there is no evidence of this and therefore it is tales. The same as the padded Almaty in the Donbass.

          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          If you possess some facts - we ask you to welcome, enlighten us, the unknowing.

          Here I am about that. Where are the facts? Did this Mowgli say? wink

          Quote: gispanec
          Are you serious? ... Do you think the Barmalei are militias ?.

          Most of the population of Syria is Sunni. They went into the militia. Even your Foreign Ministry calls them "opposition" now. It is to them that the United States supplies TOU. Not ISIS. hi

          Quote: Alekseev
          Recent modifications are good enough.

          Only in Syria these "latest modifications" have not been found.
          1. yehat
            yehat 21 June 2016 09: 56
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            Did he see the battle of Abrams with the T-90?

            maybe he saw how a hefty Arab with dshk at the ready jumped onto the merkava and knocked her out, shooting from above.
            or will you safely say that the DShK does not break through the roof of carrots or the Arabs are not able to raise the DShK? laughing
            in my opinion, you went to too shaky territory for disputes and categorical statements am
          2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 June 2016 16: 11
            +4
            Quote: Professor
            Bearded and barefoot Mowgli? Did he see the battle of Abrams with the T-90?

            And even could participate in it. Professor, explain in simple Russian words how barefoot or beard can prevent this? Your prejudice is not to offer.
            Quote: Professor
            Yes, I know something. I see her not only on TV and communicate with the Syrians not only through RT.

            Well, tell us in all the chilling details. This is VO, not the "secret of the boarded-up attic", actually. And to say "Yes, I know!" with a smart look - you don't need much mind.
            Quote: Professor
            It could. But so far there is no evidence of this and therefore it is tales. The same as the padded Almaty in the Donbass.

            Nonsense. Why is "Armata" in Donbass a bike?
            On the one hand, we have eyewitness accounts who allegedly fought with this armature and even burned it, and captured the crews of "conscripts from Rostov". These are, so to speak, arguments in favor of the fact that "Armata" fought with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
            But there are also arguments against it: we understand that no one would have sent the "Armata" to the Donbass - the tank is not in the degree of readiness to be sent into battle. This time. Second, if some small batch of "Armata" were still sent to Donbass, the crews there would be the most experienced and officers.
            Therefore, we can conclude that there were no Armats in the Donbass.
            Now about the T-90 and the Abrams. An eyewitness says that there were fights between them.
            Is there a T-90 in Syria? There is. "Abrams"? It is very possible that there is also, because in the hands of ISIS did fall.
            And now it would be nice to get some kind of argumentation why the battles between
            this technique could not be. From you professor
        2. yehat
          yehat 21 June 2016 09: 52
          +1
          Well, given the education of the Syrians, I would not be surprised if they mixed up the M60 with the Abrams or Bradley. However, completely ignoring the statement is more wrong than believing right away.
      2. grandfather
        grandfather 20 June 2016 15: 28
        +7
        militia professor, well you betrayed, maybe these are your brothers?
      3. Ajent cho
        Ajent cho 20 June 2016 17: 59
        +11
        Quote: Professor
        What are the TOUs of militias in Syria?

        militias

        This is fawn ...
        Wow, how many people noticed this)
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    1. gispanec
      gispanec 20 June 2016 14: 33
      +21
      Quote: Professor
      What TOU militias in Syria?

      Are you serious? ... Do you think the Barmalei are militias? ... then, continuing your logic, are we invaders damned there? so chtol? ... professor ... well, just started to put pluses on you and that’s on you .... militias ... ugh on you with them
      1. arnulla
        arnulla 20 June 2016 16: 26
        +7
        The professor has it as a Freudian clause ...
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    3. Chisayna
      Chisayna 20 June 2016 15: 09
      +8
      After all "these" propeysors and others .... and pulls to save Russia.
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  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 20 June 2016 14: 43
    +11
    Quote: Professor

    Tou modern? Oh well.


    Recent modifications are good enough. Although the "brand" itself will soon be like a crocodile Gena (a young, handsome crocodile 50 years old smile)
    But such "Mowgli" really look like "letting go of propaganda." All hooves on the bolts will be crushed if he does not give up his bad habit of climbing barefoot on tanks. wink
    Here Anna-News once showed a real Syrian tanker who spoke about the T-72 tanks on the merits.
    As for the weapons of ISIS and others, then, of course, they also have heavy weapons, but not enough. Several Abrashki could have gotten from Iraq ...
    The war in Syria itself is very specific and recalls, despite all the bloodshed for the peaceful, a medieval peasant uprising. There are relatively few troops and armaments: aviation regiment, the other, tanks are used platoon, rarely to the company, all Sunnis and Shiites, and Alawites, and Kurds etc. they are armed and shoot not know where, mainly because rich uncles, the Saudis with the Turks, urge them to do so.
  • Khariton
    Khariton 20 June 2016 15: 16
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    According to him, “T-90 proved to be the best, including in the battle with "Abrams" "that are available to terrorists.

    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    “The militants are very well armed. The West supplies them with modern anti-tank systems. They use Russian "Cornets" and "Contests", American TOWs, as well as improvised weapons against us, ”added the tanker.

    Tou modern? Oh well.

    In vain do you minus the professors ... He will crush you all by morning! (This is for beginners ..)
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 16: 01
      +5
      Quote: Chariton
      In vain do you minus the professors ... He will crush you all by morning!

      Clarify please? More in detail ... With a machine gun, or what? belay
  • Canep
    Canep 20 June 2016 15: 40
    +8
    Greetings Professor, Regarding the fact that DAISH does not have Abrams, you certainly got excited. And about the barefoot officer - I think he is just shell-shocked, not sure, but it is possible.
    But I see little has changed during my absence on the site.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 16: 11
      +5
      Quote: Canep
      about the barefoot officer - I think he’s just shell-shocked,

      I heard that among the Yezidis, some lands are considered holy, and they don’t walk in these lands in shoes, so as not to defile them. I don’t know how true this is, but I heard that.
      So maybe the tankman from the Yezidis will be?
    2. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 17: 31
      -13%
      Quote: Canep
      Greetings Professor, Regarding the fact that DAISH does not have Abrams, you certainly got excited.

      I didn’t say that. The presence of Abrams in ISIS does not mean their automatic clash with the T-90.

      Quote: Canep
      But I see little has changed during my absence on the site.

      That is yes. The people with brains have decreased, and the idle has increased. sad

      Quote: Observer 33
      So maybe the tankman from the Yezidis will be?

      The officers in the Syrian army were mainly from the Alawites. An Arabs officer is a big figure and this rascal cannot be an officer.

      Quote: Amnestied
      Do not flaunt the resource, you are just a commentator with what for no one needs an opinion that is not clear on what grounds you consider him yours.

      So send me to the emergency. Weakly. By the way, the king is naked. lol
  • Abbra
    Abbra 20 June 2016 15: 44
    +10
    PROFESSOR, oh well ... There is a suggestion: dump in Russia, before it's too late. There is a vacant post in Birobidzhan. It is called - professor of sour cabbage soup.
  • Amnestied
    Amnestied 20 June 2016 16: 44
    +7
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    Do not flaunt the resource, you are just a commentator with what for no one needs an opinion that is not clear on what grounds you consider him yours. For all men are weak and onet in their physical essence is that which is expressed by the term BOTA - Prince of this world and the Son of the god of Judah (Antichrist))
  • Kurasava
    Kurasava 20 June 2016 18: 22
    +18
    Sorry dear professor. I very often see your comments almost everywhere, as far as Israel is concerned and the topic of its defense industry (God himself ordered), and now (you can be proud) I decided to register here just because of you. All the time I wanted to ask, but did you yourself serve in the Israeli army? If so, what is the call and what kind of troops? I’ll tell you right away that I served, in military units and officers in underpants and slippers I saw so many that there was a lot of people who were hacked up and messed up and dirty and unshaven, one such person in 2004 was demoted by Boogie Ayalon personally as a soldier on duty him in his underpants and in slippers, but he captured the machine, so before you roll the barrel on Mowgli you need to look to see if there are any logs in your eye. Sincerely, Akira))) kapara on you Professor
    1. Amnestied
      Amnestied 20 June 2016 19: 08
      +7
      Quote: Kurasava
      kapara on you Professor

      Oh wei, I look forward to hearing from Prof Ger. I hope Herr ProfEssor will answer with dignity, well, will he not remain silent as the last shlimazol? lol
      1. Amnestied
        Amnestied 20 June 2016 19: 46
        +3
        No answer! Yeah professor, I was right, you are just a senior analiteg - drain tanks from closets in the bowels of the Central Command of Mossad und the CIA and the NSA, surrounded by the rotten corpse of Uncle Sam, everyone should have understood right away.

        Py.Sy. The professor has already put me on the "black list" for this. Rzhu-nimagu, oo ger professor laughing
        1. Kurasava
          Kurasava 20 June 2016 20: 06
          +16
          He writes to me in a personal, says that I would not carry nonsense. But I don’t bear it, I say what I myself saw and experienced. I do not in any way belittle the IDF, even on the contrary, while serving in the army I was sometimes frankly amazed how I was able to defeat such a person ........ But it turned out that the first wars, Mivtsa Kadesh 1956, 6-day war 1967, Yom Kippur 1973, it was largely our former compatriots (well, from the allies too) hardened in battles in the Great Patriotic War and their children and later in 1982 in Lebanon their children mainly under their command, the first and second generation, who fought with the Fritz and defeated them and raised their children in the same way, when losing the war was tantamount to destroying the state. But the Arabs, in turn, did not meet such a stubborn and tough opponent, they never fought with people with WWII experience, and therefore for that IDF, the Arabs after the Germans were like Romanians for the Soviet army, they were always beaten. And now a tingling has grown which, well, it’s directly spoiled rather well, and if it goes on like that ...... azohen wei and our bistra tanks.
          1. Amnestied
            Amnestied 20 June 2016 20: 20
            +5
            It is nice to meet a sane, truthful, not infected with Zionism Jew! Almost the entire local kagal has already blacklisted me, I think you appeared on time, you need to dilute the truth a little, the wave of disinformation that local Zionists pour on the ears of comrades.
            1. Kurasava
              Kurasava 20 June 2016 20: 40
              +5
              I think they are now combing me on the airway, that is, forgive me for the pi start))) And I will not often have the opportunity to comment here unfortunately.
              1. Amnestied
                Amnestied 20 June 2016 21: 23
                +3
                All they can do is put you on the black list and complain to the moderator, well, even threaten in PM)))
          2. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 04
            +5
            Our teacher (with two Orders of the Red Star) at the school said: "Achinea is easier to carry than a log." So this "Professor-Nazi", and you +++
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          4. BAD15
            BAD15 21 June 2016 12: 55
            +1
            Has something changed? Or if the Arabs win, the Jews will not be slaughtered?
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 20 June 2016 21: 42
    +4
    laughing Professor grabbed today in full! -148% at 21:53 only for the first koment lol So to gray epaulettes is not far away.
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass. Lying as an eyewitness?

    In vain he blurted it out lol
    1. Idiot
      Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 56
      +1
      Quote: GSH-18
      Professor grabbed today in full! -148 at 21:53


      I have already said that this is his task. As they say: let there be srach! That is his task. And we - like a pinocchio troll ...
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 21 June 2016 23: 56
      0
      Quote: GSH-18
      Professor grabbed today in full! -148 at 21:53


      I have already said that this is his task. As they say: let there be srach! That is his task. And we - like a pinocchio troll ...
  • vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 21 June 2016 05: 19
    0
    another couch expert?
  • kumaxa
    kumaxa 22 June 2016 06: 44
    +1
    Well, national pride haunts !!! such an episode is taken. It’s called the battle at VADI-SALUKI. There, like sales, the Merkava did not burn sourly.
  • dsm100
    dsm100 20 June 2016 13: 50
    +9
    And there’s nothing to add to what was said.
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 20 June 2016 13: 53
    +3
    There are few such tanks there, and most likely trained and competent crews even fewer!
  • dsm100
    dsm100 20 June 2016 13: 54
    +21
    In the praised abrams, the Negro is still loading the tank ... laughing
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 20 June 2016 14: 33
      +4
      Quote: dsm100
      In the praised abrams, the Negro is still loading the tank ...

      "Well, first of all it's beautiful" wink wink wink
      quote from the joke about circumcision
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 14: 50
      +7
      Quote: dsm100
      In the praised abrams, the Negro is still loading the tank ... laughing

      It seems to me that he is being planted there at the factory. One Negro, one tank. laughing
    3. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 05
      0
      There is a Negro under the SDK.
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 20 June 2016 14: 01
    +11
    Good luck to Mowgli and your comrades!
  • Linkor9s21
    Linkor9s21 20 June 2016 14: 04
    +27

    Note the second tank hit the tower and blew up the BC, which means that not so Abrams is invulnerable in front.
    1. Simon
      Simon 20 June 2016 15: 14
      +12
      "Abrams" burns beautifully good
    2. Valeriy 1979
      Valeriy 1979 20 June 2016 17: 44
      +4
      Cool these Abrams are burning
  • Sars
    Sars 20 June 2016 14: 05
    +31
    The Arab is not literate - he does not know that the best tank in the world is a merkava.
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 20 June 2016 14: 08
    +15
    And the professor, as always, will put in his 5 cents. He hates everything Russian, although if this part is taken from him, he is an Australian native, at least, or a beggar at the station.
    No offense.
    To speculate on the past, here's an idea. I would have looked better where Russia is and where Jerusalem is.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 20 June 2016 14: 09
    +12
    Quote: Professor
    Well, just like Almaty in the Donbass.


    Like the Merkavas in Honduras
  • Khariton
    Khariton 20 June 2016 14: 18
    +9
    Israel clearly has something in this massacre in Syria! Merkava would gouge them on all borders of Syria and Iran! Already got the Jews .... am What impudent steel, damn it right ... (received another counteraction .. ???))))
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 20 June 2016 16: 49
      +4
      Quote: Chariton
      Israel clearly has something in this massacre in Syria

      Everything is very simple. Arabs destroy Arabs, with the money of Americans, Saudis and Russians, with the support of the "world community" ... Enemies around Israel are self-destructing and liberating the territory. Just recently Iran jumped out of the planned distribution of lyulya. But all is not lost.
      Well, and the Jews, under the guise of a dot, also bombed where they need ... moreover, do not mind ISIS.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 20 June 2016 14: 19
    +5
    Merkava besides the Israelis someone else needs ?? on this planet. Yes, and I will pour it, do not need it .. but the loot is already swollen and sawn. and you are interested in how many countries of the world have bought and are going to buy the T-90. Menachem you are wrong !!
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 20 June 2016 14: 22
    +16
    the conder exploded inside.)
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 14: 52
      +6
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      the conder exploded inside.)

      So Ukrainian probably ..? laughing
      1. Atlant-1164
        Atlant-1164 20 June 2016 15: 21
        +4
        reloadable)
  • Winnie76
    Winnie76 20 June 2016 14: 23
    +20
    T-90 on the arms market tear off with their hands. And how many Jewish brothers did they realize their high-tech carrots? Professor, do not remind?
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 June 2016 15: 52
      +12
      Winnie76 (1) SU Today, 14:23 PM
      T-90 on the arms market tear off with their hands. And how many Jewish brothers did they realize their high-tech carrots? Professor, do not remind?
      Reply Quote Report Abuse

      What are you a colleague! "Merkava" This is a tank for the elite !!!! It costs a lot, weighs even more. The tank was created against t54 to fight, well, the maximum is t72. 72nd year of release. It does not go further than the Golan Heights. God forbid it breaks! And if it is where the black soil is! The Jews will have a gozlo to get it from there. laughing
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 14: 28
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Do you want materiel? OK. What are the TOUs of militias in Syria? wink

    You might think you know what TOU in Syria laughing
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 June 2016 14: 29
      -21%
      Quote: Munchhausen
      You might think you know what TOU in Syria

      Of course I know. There is no secret to this.
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 20 June 2016 14: 49
        +10
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Munchhausen
        You might think you know what TOU in Syria

        Of course I know. There is no secret to this.

        Who will tell the professor everything! Who wants to be drawn ..? (in PM everything is also readable ..))) Well, who ..? hi He breeds you like suckers once again ... bully
        He will now choose who he needs (who knows something from the "goyim" and may be useful ..)))) And the rest to the black list! Let's chat more ... (he smiles and gathers another crop ..)))
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 June 2016 17: 37
          -9
          Quote: Chariton
          Who will tell the professor everything! Who wants to be drawn ..? (in PM everything is also readable ..))) Well, who ..?

          Open your eyes and look at the video of the militia which they use TOU. Or do you (TOU) not distinguish between them? wink

          Quote: avg-mgn
          In general, it is difficult to attribute the Professor to inadequacies, but today he issued of course. It seems that I used it a little yesterday, but you understand the consequences.

          I'm not one of those who use. I have the impression that the majority here used it because a sober person would not classify TOU militias as modern weapons and would not rejoice over a battle that had not yet happened in nature. request
          1. Ajent cho
            Ajent cho 20 June 2016 18: 10
            +7
            Quote: Professor
            TOU militia

            So, not an accident.
      2. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 07
        +4
        You read your comets, in each barrel ..., there is no GAG in the barrel,
  • Wolka
    Wolka 20 June 2016 14: 31
    +5
    Mowgli can be trusted
  • Alexander War
    Alexander War 20 June 2016 14: 35
    +10
    To the professor smile
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 20 June 2016 14: 36
      +8
      В продолжение
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 20 June 2016 14: 45
        +3
        Russian proverb that burns does not aggravate lol
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      3. cumastra1
        cumastra1 20 June 2016 15: 23
        +2
        Did people manage to jump out? Damn oven.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 14: 36
    +6
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    the conder exploded inside.)


    Damage is not critical, Merkava coped - there was no fire, the ammunition did not detonate. I would look at any other tank, for the sake of justice.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 June 2016 15: 02
      +6
      Quote: Munchhausen
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      the conder exploded inside.)


      Damage is not critical, Merkava coped - there was no fire, the ammunition did not detonate. I would look at any other tank, for the sake of justice.

      Yes, it's a banter, simple. The professor himself is to blame, he would have kept silent ... But, could not resist, about ... al the Syrian.
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    3. Kurasava
      Kurasava 20 June 2016 18: 41
      +13
      I'll tell you in fairness as an eyewitness to the events of 2006 in Lebanon, our most combat-ready army in the world, the Tsakhal, of course, strongly supported by military propaganda that our armored parts are the most armored in the world, briskly rushed to Lebanon on new Merkavas, fours and three and .Frankly speaking, let's say, our tankers shook off and shook off not from new "cornet" or TOU, which by the way, Hezbollah also has, but from "Babies" yes yes, from the ancient "frogs" frogs, as NATO calls them, crawling with dense vegetation, they beat the tanks almost point-blank, and yes it is necessary to give the protection of the tank, the crew almost always remained intact, but the tank was immobilized, they perfectly knew where to aim and hit the tracks, and then they shot at the tank with 3-4 more "babies" knocking it out completely, and so our "shiren" fucked up "hezbollah" in monetary terms every 100 times.
  • Achilles
    Achilles 20 June 2016 14: 39
    +17
    The Arab is not literate - he does not know that the best tank in the world is a merkava.

    "Merkava Mk.4" is distinguished by its excess weight and high coefficient of specific pressure on the ground. With a mass of about 70 tons, this is a tank for one theater of military operations - the Middle East, with its rocky soils that can withstand such a weight. And what will happen to the tank on soft marshy soils, places with an abundance of rivers or rice plantations, tropical jungles?
    That's right, the car will get bogged down to the very tower, and how many bridges can such an MBT withstand? And the Merkava Mk.4 will not be able to overcome water obstacles along the bottom - it was simply not prepared for this, and why equipment for underwater driving of a tank in a desert area?
    Due to the front location of the MTO and the displacement of the driver’s seat to the left side, as well as the small slope of the upper armor plate, the view to the right is very limited to the right, therefore tank accidents are not uncommon.
    In addition, the haze from a heated engine greatly interferes with firing, and engine exhausts in front of the MSA devices make it difficult to aim. In addition, shooting on the go is difficult due to a pinched nose.
    In the aft part of the Israeli tank there is a compartment for infantrymen or a stretcher with the wounded, and ammunition can also be stored there. Such a constructive solution greatly increases the booked volume, which in the "Merkava Mk.4" is twice that of the T-90S. Naturally, it is difficult to protect such an internal space from anti-tank weapons.
    Another weak point of the Israeli tank is the lower frontal sheet, which has a thickness of only 100 mm and is located quite high.
    The T-90 has a dense line-up with a rear MTO, so the booked volume is small compared to the Merkava Mk.4. As a result, with more powerful protection, the weight of the Russian tank is about 50 tons (empty - 46,5 tons).
    "Merkava Mk.4" is focused on maximum protection of the crew, primarily against ATGMs and RPGs, which are in abundance among the opponents of the Israelis - Arab terrorists. But against modern armor-piercing sub-caliber shells, the armor of an Israeli tank is weak.
    For example, during one of the battles, the elite brigade of the TsKHAL "Ikvot ha-Barzel", equipped with the latest "Merkava Mk.4", lost 11 vehicles out of 24 that took part in the offensive. All the tanks of the elite brigade were hit by ATGMs, since they have heavy weapons There were no terrorists, while Israel had complete air superiority. The Israelis explained all their losses by the presence of the Kornet-E ATGM system in the possession of the Arabs.
    1. Achilles
      Achilles 20 June 2016 14: 42
      +7
      Due to the front location of the MTO and the displacement of the driver’s seat to the left side, as well as the small slope of the upper armor plate, viewing to the right is very limited, so tank accidents are not uncommon
      1. Simon
        Simon 20 June 2016 15: 18
        +12
        Well, that is beautiful! Ours do not know how. laughing good
        1. Colleague
          Colleague 20 June 2016 17: 25
          +5
          Funny clown numbers. More often!
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 20 June 2016 22: 50
          +2
          Quote: Simon
          Well, that is beautiful! Ours do not know how. laughing good

          This is probably the Merkava cobra.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 14: 40
    -7
    Alexander War

    We do not know what affected Merkava, and what would be left of any other tank in this situation. Today, it is one of the most protected cars.
    1. Skubudu
      Skubudu 20 June 2016 16: 43
      +1
      2006 showed how much Merkava is really protected ... the technical part is protected badly, or rather, Merkava is easy to disable, but the crew in most cases survived.
      Not in vain after 2006. urgently, all MK4 were equipped with KAZ Trophy, which by the way had already intercepted a couple of shots from the RPG in Palestine.
    2. Kurasava
      Kurasava 20 June 2016 18: 44
      +4
      I'll tell you in fairness as an eyewitness to the events of 2006 in Lebanon, our most combat-ready army in the world, the Tsakhal, of course, strongly supported by military propaganda that our armored parts are the most armored in the world, briskly rushed to Lebanon on new Merkavas, fours and three and .Frankly speaking, let's say, our tankers shook off and shook off not from new "cornet" or TOU, which by the way, Hezbollah also has, but from "Babies" yes yes, from the ancient "frogs" frogs, as NATO calls them, crawling with dense vegetation, they beat the tanks almost point-blank, and yes it is necessary to give the protection of the tank, the crew almost always remained intact, but the tank was immobilized, they perfectly knew where to aim and hit the tracks, and then they shot at the tank with 3-4 more "babies" knocking it out completely, and so our "shiren" fucked up "hezbollah" in monetary terms every 100 times.
  • ksv36
    ksv36 20 June 2016 14: 44
    +7
    Quote: Professor
    Yes, you look who praises. The best anti-advertising is not to come up.


    This is not anti-advertising, but vice versa. On our technology, even the natives can fight and be protected, and the Americans themselves are afraid to sit in their coffins on the tracks. So they sell to everyone who doesn’t get it. The same applies to their much-praised F-35s. In Canada, the face is beaten and shoved in by a non-flying misunderstanding.
    1. Rust0626
      Rust0626 21 June 2016 18: 19
      0
      There was a program on National Geographic about machines.
      There, an American instructor told us that in order to train a soldier to own the M-16, you need to train him for at least a week or two, while he still needs to be sufficiently educated. Kalashnikov is mastered within a couple of hours by a cadet with any intellect
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 14: 46
    -4
    Quote: Achilles
    Due to the front location of the MTO and the displacement of the driver’s seat to the left side, as well as the small slope of the upper armor plate, viewing to the right is severely limited


    There is video surveillance, a review of 360 degrees.
    1. Dr. Stein
      Dr. Stein 20 June 2016 17: 14
      +1
      yeah and the hatch opening button as in the intercom. soldier
      1. Munchhausen
        Munchhausen 20 June 2016 18: 33
        0
        You wanted to tell the airborne squad.
  • ovod84
    ovod84 20 June 2016 14: 47
    +9
    Defender of his homeland. Thanks for the praise of our tank. One request, kill more of this evil, so that it does not return to us.
  • RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 20 June 2016 14: 54
    +8
    Quote: Achilles
    The Arab is not literate - he does not know that the best tank in the world is a merkava.

    "Merkava Mk.4" is distinguished by its excess weight and high coefficient of specific pressure on the ground. With a mass of about 70 tons, this is a tank for one theater of military operations - the Middle East, with its rocky soils that can withstand such a weight. And what will happen to the tank on soft marshy soils, places with an abundance of rivers or rice plantations, tropical jungles?
    That's right, the car will get bogged down to the very tower, and how many bridges can such an MBT withstand? And the Merkava Mk.4 will not be able to overcome water obstacles along the bottom - it was simply not prepared for this, and why equipment for underwater driving of a tank in a desert area?
    Due to the front location of the MTO and the displacement of the driver’s seat to the left side, as well as the small slope of the upper armor plate, the view to the right is very limited to the right, therefore tank accidents are not uncommon.
    In addition, the haze from a heated engine greatly interferes with firing, and engine exhausts in front of the MSA devices make it difficult to aim. In addition, shooting on the go is difficult due to a pinched nose.
    In the aft part of the Israeli tank there is a compartment for infantrymen or a stretcher with the wounded, and ammunition can also be stored there. Such a constructive solution greatly increases the booked volume, which in the "Merkava Mk.4" is twice that of the T-90S. Naturally, it is difficult to protect such an internal space from anti-tank weapons.
    Another weak point of the Israeli tank is the lower frontal sheet, which has a thickness of only 100 mm and is located quite high.
    The T-90 has a dense line-up with a rear MTO, so the booked volume is small compared to the Merkava Mk.4. As a result, with more powerful protection, the weight of the Russian tank is about 50 tons (empty - 46,5 tons).
    "Merkava Mk.4" is focused on maximum protection of the crew, primarily against ATGMs and RPGs, which are in abundance among the opponents of the Israelis - Arab terrorists. But against modern armor-piercing sub-caliber shells, the armor of an Israeli tank is weak.
    For example, during one of the battles, the elite brigade of the TsKHAL "Ikvot ha-Barzel", equipped with the latest "Merkava Mk.4", lost 11 vehicles out of 24 that took part in the offensive. All the tanks of the elite brigade were hit by ATGMs, since they have heavy weapons There were no terrorists, while Israel had complete air superiority. The Israelis explained all their losses by the presence of the Kornet-E ATGM system in the possession of the Arabs.

    The Arab are not terrorists, but militias and partisans fighting against the invaders in their land.
    1. Achilles
      Achilles 20 June 2016 16: 35
      +2
      The Arab are not terrorists, but militias and partisans fighting against the invaders in their land.

      Yes, they call them terrorists, although they are really militias and partisans, I wanted to put quotes, I didn’t
      1. wanderer
        wanderer 20 June 2016 19: 34
        0
        Achilles is how did Lebanese Hezbollah become Israeli partisans? And what did we occupy at Liana? In short - learn the materiel! By the way, Shiite hezbalons, Israeli Sunni Arabs, and this is such a small difference.
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 17
          0
          Do not be rude, isn't it yourself disgusting to read what your mouth is saying. Here in Germany in the 30s they treated other peoples with the same contempt.
        2. Thomas 1989
          Thomas 1989 21 June 2016 19: 50
          +1
          [quote = wanderer] Achilles is how did Lebanese Hezbollah become Israeli partisans? And what did we occupy at Liana? In short - learn the materiel!
          Learn the materiel yourself. To begin with, David took Jerusalem away, then the ethnic composition was changed, then statehood was lost, like the Greeks = Byzantines or Parthians. Then, for some reason, the Europeans in 1945 gave part of the Mediterranean coast to the alleged ethnic heirs of the same David and Moses. Of course * the wanderer is "right, the Israeli Armed Forces are conducting very successful military operations, I will add that there are wonderful people in Israel, BUT Israel is pursuing a very aggressive foreign policy, showing signs of war crimes, for example, air strikes on the territory of sovereign states.
  • Alexander War
    Alexander War 20 June 2016 14: 59
    +6
    I understand Hezbollah now
  • Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 20 June 2016 15: 00
    +5
    Nice to hear. I would also like to see a real clash with Abrams.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 15: 04
    +1
    Quote: Achilles
    With a mass of about 70 tons, this is a tank for one theater of operations - the Middle East, with its stony soils


    You should have seen those rocky soils; there the mud is simply impassable.
  • CTPEJIKuH
    CTPEJIKuH 20 June 2016 15: 10
    -12%
    So far, there is a video of how the T90s catch ATGMs, so the professor is right.
    1. Lanista
      Lanista 20 June 2016 15: 34
      +14
      ATGM is easy to catch. It’s difficult to survive after that. At T-90 - it turns out. At Abrams and Merkava - not really.
    2. Kurasava
      Kurasava 20 June 2016 18: 56
      +3
      And to you too I will tell you in fairness as an eyewitness to the events of 2006 in Lebanon, our most combat-ready army in the world, the Tsakhal, of course, strongly supported by military propaganda that our armored parts are the most armored in the world, briskly rushed to Lebanon on new Merkavas, fours and triples, etc. .... frankly speaking, our tankers shook off and shook off not from the new "cornets" or TOU, which by the way, Hezbollah also has, but from the "Babies" yes, yes, from the ancient "frogs" frogs, as NATO calls them, crawling through dense vegetation, they thrashed at the tanks almost point-blank, and yes, it is necessary to give the protection of the tank, the crew almost always remained intact, but the tank was immobilized, they perfectly knew where to aim and hit the tracks, and then they shot at the tank with 3-4 more "babies" knocking it out of action completely, and so our "shire" in the net fucked up "Hezbollah" in monetary terms 100 times.
  • Time
    Time 20 June 2016 15: 42
    +4
    ...Professor. Professor.
    Soar above the sun ...
  • Alexander War
    Alexander War 20 June 2016 15: 46
    +7
    Who has not seen the T-90MS test in Kuwait
  • vasek-3180
    vasek-3180 20 June 2016 15: 48
    +7
    The fact that the T90 with a normal crew will tear the paintbrush of any modification is 100%, the question is different, if such collisions occurred in reality, our guys would be the first to say this to the whole world. The advertisement is engine of the trade smile
  • CTPEJIKuH
    CTPEJIKuH 20 June 2016 15: 55
    -18%
    Quote: vasek-3180
    The fact that the T90 with a normal crew will tear the paintbrush of any modification is 100%, the question is different, if such collisions occurred in reality, our guys would be the first to say this to the whole world. The advertisement is engine of the trade smile

    Abrams will not even let in 90 tons, the optics of Abrasha are many times better, the thermal imager is many times better. The pine tree on the T90 can not be compared with the abrams optics. Yes and suo have more advanced Abrasha. I don’t want to stir up here, but hatred is infuriating me.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 June 2016 15: 58
      +12
      Quote: CTPEJIKuH
      Abrams won't even let in 90 tons,

      Remind me the maximum range of the aimed shot of Abrams and T-90, dear. And then ask yourself who will not let anyone go where.
      1. CTPEJIKuH
        CTPEJIKuH 20 June 2016 16: 20
        -10%
        The identification range of a tank type target at any time of the day at t90 2500-3000 m.
        At m1a2 up to 5000 m.
        At the same time, the T90 has a 1st generation thermal imager, and on the second one.
        Comparing the firing range is stupid since the t90 has ATGM. The problem is that the T90, as well as the T72, simply will not see the target to launch ATGMs at a distance of, for example, 6 kilometers.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 June 2016 16: 35
          +11
          Quote: CTPEJIKuH
          The identification range of a tank type target at any time of the day at t90 2500-3000 m.

          On T-90 SM (export) there are thermal imaging cameras Buran-Katrin-E
          Gunner's thermal imager
          A type
          Buran-Catherine-E
          Range of working wavelengths, microns from 8 to 12
          Wide field of view, °, not less than:
          - vertical 6,75
          - horizontal 9
          Narrow field of view, °, not less than:
          - vertical 2,25
          - horizontally 3

          Field of view with electronic magnification, °, not less than:
          - vertical 1,12
          - horizontal 1,5
          Target detection range, m, not less than:
          - in a wide field of view 5000
          - in a narrow field of view 12000
          Target recognition range, m, not less than:
          - in a narrow field of view 5000
          Target identification range, m, not less than:
          - in a narrow field of view 2500

          Ready time (depending on the ambient temperature), min from 5 to 8
          Field of view stabilization:
          - vertical electric drive
          - horizontally in conjunction with the tower
          Range of angles of retention of the aiming line vertically, ° from -15 to +20

          And where is up to 3 km?
          1. CTPEJIKuH
            CTPEJIKuH 20 June 2016 16: 56
            -14%
            Does the export option not bother you? t90ms has a 3rd generation TVP. Do we have a lot of them in the army? I do not in any way favor Abrams, but there are obvious facts and you should not ignore them.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 20 June 2016 17: 10
              +8
              Quote: CTPEJIKuH
              Does the export option not bother you? t90ms has a 3rd generation TVP. Do we have a lot of them in the army? I do not in any way favor Abrams, but there are obvious facts and you should not ignore them.

              And what kind of modification of the T-90 is there in Syria right now?
              1. CTPEJIKuH
                CTPEJIKuH 20 June 2016 17: 51
                -7
                I will not prompt, I do not possess such information. But obviously not SM, this can be seen even on vidosik from YouTube.
            2. barbiturate
              barbiturate 21 June 2016 10: 28
              +2
              I wonder what facts are you talking about? Why in the afternoon, should an American see me in his huge 10x tank before I see him in my own? It will already depend on many factors at night, perhaps Amer will see it earlier, but I will definitely see the huge carcass of Abrams in my imager from 4-4.5 for sure. What superiority are you talking about in the LMS. If we take our old tanks and new American ones, and also at night or under poor visibility conditions, then yes, and so ...
    2. Alexander War
      Alexander War 20 June 2016 16: 00
      +13
      smile All the power of Abrams optics manifested in Yemen laughing
    3. vasek-3180
      vasek-3180 20 June 2016 16: 12
      +6
      And which automatic loader (which has no analogues in the world) laughing
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 20 June 2016 19: 26
        +4
        Quote: vasek-3180
        And which automatic loader (which has no analogues in the world) laughing

        Well, about having no analogues, it's you in vain repeat In the armies of most African countries, such analogues are a dime a dozen laughing
        1. vasek-3180
          vasek-3180 20 June 2016 21: 21
          +1
          African countries are not that, but from "Harlem" just right laughing
    4. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 19
      +2
      And you cool down. In Abrams, instead of a black man and on the T-90 with all his hatred.
  • sounddoc
    sounddoc 20 June 2016 15: 56
    +22
    Especially for the Professor: A solemn ceremony was held in Ashdod near the monument to the Heroes of the Soviet Union, the famous tankers brothers Eusebius and Matvey Vainrub, dedicated to the celebration of Victory Day over Nazi Germany. Brothers Eusei and Matvey Vainrub were born in Belarus in the city of Borisov. From the first day of World War II, they were part of the active Red Army.

    The eldest of the brothers, Yevsey, from December 27, 1944, commanded the 219th tank brigade of the 1st mechanized corps of the 2nd Guards Tank Army of the 1st Belorussian Front. In January-February 1945, the tankmen of the brigade of Lieutenant Colonel Yevsey Grigorievich Vainrub, participating in the Vistula-Oder offensive operation, inflicted heavy losses on the enemy in manpower and equipment, and also distinguished themselves in the battles during the liberation of Poland. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 6, 1945 "for the skillful command of the brigade and the shown courage and heroism in battles against the Nazi invaders" Lieutenant Colonel Vainrub Yevsey Grigorievich was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union (No. 4569).

    At the final stage of the war, the tank brigade of Lieutenant Colonel Yevsey Grigorievich Weinrub distinguished itself during the Berlin operation, participating in the capture of the capital of Nazi Germany, in connection with which the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the 219th Tank Brigade was given the honorary name "Berlin".

    Having gone on a well-deserved rest, Yevsey Vainrub repatriated to Israel in January 1995 and lived in Ashdod.

    The youngest of the brothers - Matvey Vainrub - fought as part of the troops of the Western, South-Western, Stalingrad and 1st Belorussian fronts. He commanded a tank regiment. As commander of the armored forces of the 62nd Army, he showed himself brightly in the defense of Stalingrad. Commander of the armored and mechanized troops of the 8th Guards Army of the 1st Belorussian Front of the Guards, Major General of Tank Forces Matvey G. Vainrub, distinguished himself during the Vistula-Oder offensive. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR dated April 6, 1945, "for the skillful command of the entrusted troops and the displayed courage and heroism in battles against the Nazi invaders", the Guard Major General of Tank Forces Vainrub Matvey Grigorievich was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union (No. 5175).

    During the memorial ceremony at the foot of the monument to the brothers Eusebius and Matthew Vainrubam, a symbolic burial of a capsule with earth specially delivered from the city of Borisov took place.

    AEN 2014
    Better tell about them, Professor, and do not try to hide the smoke from the dying "Merkava" with a curtain of words ...
  • Irokez
    Irokez 20 June 2016 15: 56
    +8
    Quote: Starik72
    Professor. Aren't you ashamed of such a title, insulting a person who is completely unfamiliar to YOU? Only for this alone YOU need to be mercilessly banned!

    Yes, you look even at the avatar - this is the physicist who pinned the whole world and therefore shows the language to everyone. No matter how he was cut off. One can judge a person by his image - this is what is inside him.
  • Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 20 June 2016 16: 04
    +5
    Quote: Munchhausen
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    the conder exploded inside.)


    Damage is not critical, Merkava coped - there was no fire, the ammunition did not detonate. I would look at any other tank, for the sake of justice.

    I recall something ... it was a random shot from a different merkava training disc, so in fairness, I would have looked if it were a military armor-piercing or sub-caliber ...
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    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 June 2016 21: 09
      +1
      Quote: certero

      This is where you get this grass? In the front rows there always stood shield-bearers with spears. Russia, and Russia fought most of the time with the nomads, who generally throw arrows, so without a defense a warrior is just a target.

      Not. This is from Lebanon 2006. Hit ATGM.
  • certero
    certero 20 June 2016 16: 55
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    From ancient times, in ancient times in the front rows of the central regiment stood the most experienced and living warriors in the same robe to barefoot and with an ax or club to the edge, without armor, shields and leather knees ... and they held a blow.

    This is where you get this grass? In the front rows there always stood shield-bearers with spears. Russia, and Russia fought most of the time with the nomads, who generally throw arrows, so without a defense a warrior is just a target.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 June 2016 17: 08
      +3
      Quote: certero
      This is where you get this grass?

      Do you judge people by yourself, dear?
      Quote: certero
      In the front rows there always stood shield-bearers with spears.

      Do you understand the difference between in the front rows and in the front row? I said IN FIRST ORDER.
      And stop smoking all the crap, learn to read.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 20 June 2016 16: 55
    +3
    In general, it is difficult to attribute the Professor to inadequacies, but today he issued of course. It seems that I used it a little yesterday, but you understand the consequences.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 17: 05
    -5
    If you get into your tank, even if it’s an ATGM Cornet, would you rather be in the T-90 or MK4? The condition is both tanks with a full supply of fuel and ammunition, MK4 without AZ.
    1. Skubudu
      Skubudu 20 June 2016 17: 47
      +2
      in the T-90SM or in the T-14 wink
    2. vasek-3180
      vasek-3180 20 June 2016 22: 23
      0
      In t90, 100% is already proven. In t90 without AZ, tou got laughing
    3. Idiot
      Idiot 22 June 2016 18: 32
      +1
      Quote: Munchhausen
      If you get into your tank, even if it’s an ATGM Cornet, would you rather be in the T-90 or MK4? The condition is both tanks with a full supply of fuel and ammunition, MK4 without AZ.


      Kindergarten of some kind. And who is stronger: a cavalry soldier or an Indian? I would prefer to be next to the Kornet ATGM.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 17: 11
    0
    Quote: Skubudu
    2006 showed how much Merkava is really protected ... the technical part is protected badly, or rather, Merkava is easy to disable, but the crew in most cases survived.


    But the crew, in most cases, survived - this is the concept of booking and layout of Merkava tanks.
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  • wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 20 June 2016 17: 44
    +10
    The T-90 is the best tank in the world, “may the Almighty keep him as a designer,” the Federal News Agency quoted the words of the commander of the combat vehicle, Lieutenant Mowgli.

    Unfortunately, from that team of UVZ design engineers who were at the origins of the T-72 and T-90 machines and were the engine of the whole process, no one was left alive.

    Recall their names:

    Leonid Nikolaevich Kartsev

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Карцев,_Леонид_Николаевич

    http://ria.ru/spravka/20120721/704572421.html

    http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/kartsev_ln/index.html

    Valery Nikolaevich Venediktov

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Венедиктов,_Валерий_Николаевич

    http://www.rulit.me/books/glavnyj-konstruktor-v-n-venediktov-zhizn-otdannaya-tan
    kam-read-249851-1.html

    Vladimir Ivanovich Potkin

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Поткин,_Владимир_Иванович

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/2014/05/blog-post.html
  • hunt1
    hunt1 20 June 2016 18: 37
    +2
    there is nothing to prove the excellent T-90 here. Well, you have to make a discount on the words of the Syrian, agree it would be strange to hear from a syrian about bad Russian tanks Yes, probably for free.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 18: 37
    +2
    Quote: vasek-3180
    The fact that the t90 with a normal crew will tear the abrash of any modification is 100%


    The tank does not fight the tank, the system fights with a system in which the tank is just a screw.
  • sounddoc
    sounddoc 20 June 2016 18: 38
    +3
    Quote: Munchhausen
    If you get into your tank, even if it’s an ATGM Cornet, would you rather be in the T-90 or MK4? The condition is both tanks with a full supply of fuel and ammunition, MK4 without AZ.

    From the point of view of banal erudition, I personally would prefer to be in the place of the operator of the "Cornet" ...
    1. Munchhausen
      Munchhausen 20 June 2016 18: 48
      +1
      From the point of view of banal erudition, the crews of both tanks would prefer to be in such a place, but this makes it no easier for them.
  • Just me
    Just me 20 June 2016 18: 49
    +7
    My thoughts about the article Immediately; what the hell Abrams is there Lying like a hundred pounds next ... I looked at the tanks of the Syrian army and not only the tanks but also the BMP and you won’t look at them without tears All torn ragged but all rides shoots it works it performs tasks What kind of equipment can this withstand even in the absence of competent service, I don’t know. There’s a war for a second, understand this war has been going on for a long time, resources haven’t been there for a long time, and the technique works. In real combat conditions. : Did you go to war? Do you know how shaving wash there and so on. Banter in this case is inappropriate, I think The video leaves an impression of advertising, of course, but it’s not worth mocking a person Further ... Concerning: Which tank would you like to be in when you hit and blah blah blah: Tanks don’t choose There is one and they are fighting in it no matter what Because the Motherland ordered and it doesn’t have such a tank and others Only in potatoes tanks choose Something like this
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 21 June 2016 12: 42
      +2
      Everything is correct. Life is not easy. And the war ...
      They also told us at the school that they would fly there, and not return back. And nothing! Everyone took it for granted. I remember throwing grenades (cans of RG-42), and Totoshka stood nearby (a colonel who looked like a hippopotamus who was afraid of vaccinations). He had to kick back the grenades that the careless cadets would drop. There were none. In general, evaluating and looking around the past in the 1970s, you think: but not bad! Now I bring up grandchildren.
  • Victor19
    Victor19 20 June 2016 18: 56
    +2
    All anti-Semites on the site should know that Russia is in the same boat as Israel. And regular summits only prove that the Russian leadership is fully aware of this. Regarding the construction of the third temple in Jerusalem. This is stated in biblical prophecies.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 18: 58
    +2
    Quote: Victor19
    All anti-Semites on the site should know that Russia is in the same boat as Israel.


    Very superficial judgment.
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 20 June 2016 19: 02
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Are you twisting again? Tens of thousands of Soviet "advisers" were on the side of the Arabs. Everyone knows the result. By the way, did the scoop beat barefoot in Afghanistan or what?

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;
    When in 1972, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat decided to “virtually expel” the group of Soviet troops and advisers, it amounted to about 15 people. [000] Chaim Herzog writes about 23 Soviet troops stationed in Syria in 4500 [1983]. In his documentary “Beirut 21: An Unknown Brezhnev War”], director A. Pobortsev, referring to the Russian Ministry of Defense, cites data on 82 Soviet troops in Syria from 8000 to 1982.

    The exact data on the dead and wounded Soviet troops is also unknown. Only after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the beginning of the struggle of Soviet veterans of the Middle East conflict for their recognition and social rights, some of the names of the victims became known. Official and reliable data have not yet been made public. The number of injured is unknown. The losses of the Soviet side were previously based only on partial data of the Israeli side, but with the spread of the Internet, publications of veteran memoirs appear, shedding light on the question of the volume of Soviet losses. According to these data, relating to the period 1967-1974, more than forty Soviet military personnel died as a result of “reflection of enemy aircraft raids, in air battles, as a result of air crashes and accidents in the line of duty; six people died as a result of the disease ”[24]. The list “Soviet military personnel who died in Egypt” presented in the “Book of Memory” lists the names of 60 people, in Syria - three. [25]. Colonel General G. Yashkin, the chief military adviser to the Syrian armed forces, an adviser to the Syrian Minister of Defense in 1980-1984, also writes about ten more dead and many wounded in Syria in the early 1980s [26]. In his documentary Beirut 82: The Unknown Brezhnev War, director A. Pobortsev, referring to the Russian Ministry of Defense, cites data on 13 dead and 200 wounded in Syria from 1982 to 1985.
  • Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 20 June 2016 19: 04
    0
    Quote: Simple
    I looked at the tanks of the Syrian army and not only the tanks, but also the BMP, you won’t look at them without tears


    If the state of Syrian armored vehicles causes you to tear, then the state of Ukrainian should cause convulsions with white foam from the mouth. Since you are so emotional.
    1. Just me
      Just me 20 June 2016 19: 58
      +3
      I will explain my emotions. I am proud that the SOVIET equipment works and works and works in SUCH conditions. I doubt very much that Abrams Leopards and so on could fight for SUCH conditions for such a long time. I do not comment on the policy towards Ukraine, but here is a MILITARY REVIEW or what?
    2. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 20 June 2016 21: 29
      +1
      Why are you doing this?
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