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Bulgaria refused the offer to take part in the creation of the NATO Black Sea Flotilla: “We do not see any threats for ourselves from Russia”

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News agency Reutersreferring to Bulgarian sources, reports on the actually anti-NATO demarche, which the head of the Bulgarian government Boyko Borisov allowed himself to do. According to Borisov, his country does not intend to join the so-called Black Sea flotilla, which they are going to create in the format of the North Atlantic Alliance.

The Bulgarian Prime Minister explained his decision by saying that he does not want war. From the statement of Boyko Borisov (in Facebook):

I always said that I want to see sailboats, yachts, cruise liners with tourists in the Black Sea, and I do not want it (the Black Sea) to become a theater of military operations. I do not need a war on the Black Sea. I do not see a threat to Bulgaria from Russia. Russia is conducting economic interaction with us and certainly does not intend to use either Tanksnor rockets. Russia has no such ideas.


Bulgaria refused the offer to take part in the creation of the NATO Black Sea Flotilla: “We do not see any threats for ourselves from Russia”


The decision of Prime Minister Borisov was supported by Bulgarian President Rosen Plevneliev. According to Plevneliev, it is necessary to stop speculation on the subject of "creating a new force against someone."

Bulgarian President:
We do not want to participate in the creation of the fleet against anyone. We have a peaceful country. Our foreign policy is not directed against anyone.

Recall that earlier on the initiative of Romania and Turkey, the question was raised about the creation of the so-called Black Sea Flotilla, which should "restrain Russia." After some time in Kiev, they said that they were ready to send several of their warships to such a flotilla. The Bulgarian authorities all this time, the proposal of Bucharest and Ankara digested. And now they decided to make a statement about the unwillingness to participate in this kind of project.

Another statement of the Bulgarian authorities attracts attention. Boyko Borisov said that Bulgaria fulfills all the requirements in the composition of NATO and the EU, but the partners are not in a hurry to do the same for Bulgaria. According to Borisov, when Bulgaria was actually forced to refuse to participate in the South Stream and the construction of a nuclear power plant in Belene, Turkey immediately concluded a contract with Russia for the construction of the Turkish Stream and its nuclear power plant. Then none of the partners in the European Union supported Bulgaria. Now, Turkey, as the Bulgarian prime minister says, proposes to support it against Russia in creating the Black Sea Flotilla ... Borisov said that if someone from the ministers of his Cabinet promised something by participating in the Black Sea flotilla of Bulgarian ships, then he would be sure to ask for his words.

For reference: according to travel company estimates, only since the beginning of 2016, the flow of Russian tourists to Bulgaria has increased by more than 12%.
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  1. Onegin
    Onegin 16 June 2016 19: 02
    +3
    Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.
    1. poquello
      poquello 16 June 2016 19: 07
      +18
      Quote: Onegin
      Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.

      the Turks have not forgotten yet, so they bucked
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 16 June 2016 19: 36
        +61
        I don’t know why, but I don’t believe in the frankness of this refusal due to the manifestation of respect for our country. Most likely, there is no money. Maybe I'm wrong. Too often they trip us. One "South Stream" is worth something. There was not enough political will to resist external pressure. What has changed since then?
        1. poquello
          poquello 16 June 2016 19: 54
          +8
          Quote: Stock Officer
          I don’t know why, but I don’t believe in the frankness of this refusal due to the manifestation of respect for our country. Most likely, there is no money. Maybe I'm wrong. Too often they trip us. One "South Stream" is worth something. There was not enough political will to resist external pressure. What has changed since then?

          so they didn’t give money for abandoning the south stream
          Boyko Borisov said that Bulgaria fulfills all the requirements of NATO and the EU, but the partners are in no hurry to do the same with regard to Bulgaria.
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor 16 June 2016 21: 42
            +24
            Naturally, no money.
            They already lost their "virginity" when they rode with the South Stream - it would be silly now to declare that it does not count once.

            The creation of the Black Sea flotilla must be paid by someone. It is unlikely that someone will give Bulgaria a corvette and pay its resource - everything will have to be done for money from the budget - or for a targeted loan.

            An anti-Russian position that does not bring money is meaningless (well, only if you are not Ukraine, where you need to steal more under any slogans).
            1. Berkut24
              Berkut24 16 June 2016 22: 25
              +25
              Then the news slipped - Rosatom won over $ 700 million from the Bulgarian government in compensation for the broken Belene contract. Money here and now.
              So, such "volatile" people definitely do not have money.
              1. The stranger
                The stranger 17 June 2016 00: 04
                +1
                And did not read it?
                Rosatom lost - compensation denied. The 550 million euros that were awarded - not even disputed at all - is money for already constructed equipment - one and a half reactors, which we will pay you anyway, or not, if you yourself need the reactors, then we just disagree. Each at their own losses from the design, and other paper.
                1. krot
                  krot 17 June 2016 03: 40
                  +3
                  Bulgarians are just stuffing a price for themselves. They will not trample against the USA anywhere.
                2. fan_
                  fan_ 17 June 2016 10: 35
                  0
                  Why did the trial begin ?? It would have been long ago for peacefully to disperse peacefully, but Bulgaria refused the contract, refused and paid for the majority of the work done.
                  1. The stranger
                    The stranger 17 June 2016 13: 56
                    +2
                    Yes? And is it that simple? Then why such arbitration, so awarded?
                    This story is almost 30 years old. All the time, not just monkeys settled on this branch, but monkey families, monkey villages, sometimes crowds of monkeys. And they all howled all the time, punched themselves in the chest, shouting numbers and prices. No one was haggling, everyone just cheated, on both sides. Moreover, both sides did not sign anything. We would just like to build, just a nuclear power plant, it would have paid off, not only would have been built. So politics is really politics, but thieves and business idiots are to blame here, and the euro jackals were the winners ...
        2. marl
          marl 16 June 2016 19: 55
          +4
          Quote: Reserve officer
          I don’t know why, but I don’t believe something in the frankness of this refusal because of respect for our country. Most likely - there is no money. Maybe I'm wrong.

          Quite rightly, read the answer at the end of the article.
          For reference: according to travel company estimates, only since the beginning of 2016, the flow of Russian tourists to Bulgaria has increased by more than 12%.

          They don’t want to quarrel with a chicken, which can bring them golden testicles.
          They screwed up the southern stream, chopped off a bitch from all the foolishness who could sit happily for many years, but now, after our scandal with the Turks, they blow water for water, they hope to earn money at least from tourism.
        3. Denis Obukhov
          Denis Obukhov 16 June 2016 20: 10
          +15
          Quote: Stock Officer
          I don’t know why, but I don’t believe in the frankness of this refusal due to the manifestation of respect for our country. Most likely, there is no money. Maybe I'm wrong. Too often they trip us. One "South Stream" is worth something. There was not enough political will to resist external pressure. What has changed since then?



          Apparently the deserted beaches of Turkey make an indelible impression on the leadership of Bulgaria.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 17 June 2016 06: 55
            0
            These beaches ukriki now obgadite-holy place is never empty ..
        4. just exp
          just exp 16 June 2016 21: 35
          +1
          and the reason is described in the article
          For reference: according to travel company estimates, only since the beginning of 2016, the flow of Russian tourists to Bulgaria has increased by more than 12%.

          Rusotourist is money, the NATO flotilla is a confrontation with Russia and Rusotourist go somewhere else.
          but NATO only promises money.
        5. alexmach
          alexmach 16 June 2016 22: 06
          +3
          I don’t know why, but I don’t believe something in the frankness of this refusal because of respect for our country


          And what does respect have to do with it? They openly bargain with their "signors" for their own interests. Only that and everything. Not everyone is as "smart" as Ukraine, who would exclusively drown their interests to please their uncle from across the ocean
        6. TT1968
          TT1968 16 June 2016 22: 06
          +21
          A smartly pragmatic populist. He understands well that the Bulgarian PEOPLE are against escalating tensions with Russia. And on the nose - the presidential election in the fall.
          That's why he dances yes
        7. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 17 June 2016 06: 51
          +4
          They will call on the carpet in Washington, they will say different ..
        8. Skif83
          Skif83 17 June 2016 07: 29
          +9
          Yes, the point is rather not in the Bulgarians, but in Russia.
          There was a president of the USSR Gorbachev, there was a betrayer of the USSR, there was a president eltsin, there was a weak Russia.
          In the world, only power is respected!
          Partnership, love, fraternity are all words and politics.
          Russia is strong and drawn to it, weak, shy away from it.
          Mostly the Slavs are drawn and those who remember that if it were not for Russia, maybe they would not have existed at all.
          Bulgarians are no exception.
          And the ambiguity of the position ..., so Russia is not yet strong enough.
          Need to work on it.
        9. The stranger
          The stranger 17 June 2016 13: 59
          +1
          You are definitely mistaken. Anyone who considers geopolitics from the window of an accountant in a seed shop is always mistaken. After all, when the question rests on the war, though big, money no longer counts, they are a trifle.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 19 June 2016 11: 54
            0
            Money in a big war doesn’t count? Truth? Ahhhh! But it seemed earlier the opposite was true - war is always money, money, money. Moreover, big money can be made even in a small war. Do not believe? And you ask the Ukrainian government!
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 16 June 2016 19: 55
        +7
        Yeh, heartfelt! To bark and mischief Russia with a whole crowd of mongrels, and the Bulgarians fall into grandmothers, and with gas, and nadys 650 million dollars. for the unfinished nuclear power plant. Some kind of Bulgarian pichalka, they lick, they lick, but everything is empty! fool
      3. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 17 June 2016 08: 10
        +2
        yeah, like the Ukrainians, brothers, Slovenes (Yaroslav helped them there too, and disappeared, as they all got out of the Warsaw Pact, they’re going to the forest, they themselves are not bad people, but politicians will steer under the influence of the US Regional Committee.
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 16 June 2016 19: 09
      +2
      The second option: no money.
      1. poquello
        poquello 16 June 2016 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: vodolaz
        The second option: no money.

        well, they directly expressed it: "Neither jam, nor cookies ..."))))
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 16 June 2016 19: 12
      +20
      Quote: Onegin
      Inconsistent what kind of Bulgarians.

      I think Boyko Borisov did not stay long at his post. yes
      1. TT1968
        TT1968 16 June 2016 22: 18
        +15
        You think wrong wink . Smartly flexible like a water hose laughing .
        He is sensitive as a weather vane laughing .
        Jokes aside! Now we do not have someone who could remove B. B.
        Last month, the Congress of the Socialist Party (BSP) was held, the largest opposition party with half as many deputies in Parliament as the ruling GERB. The new party chairman, Cornelia Ninova, is more harsh on BB, but she is just starting Strengthening the loose structures of the party. But there are no other real candidates!
        And the overseas regional committee will not allow such to appear!
        We have already passed once recourse !
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    5. Zus
      Zus 16 June 2016 19: 17
      +3
      Well, not that Ukrainians here were wailing in peaceful houses, but here they were not wacking .....
    6. Simon
      Simon 16 June 2016 19: 22
      +9
      The main thing is to start thinking correctly! I think that soon the South Stream will also be launched through Bulgaria. A gas pipe is a piece of money that will flow into the budget of Bulgaria and gas will do. There is no use from the EU and the states if the country is only impoverished. request
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 16 June 2016 19: 25
        +5
        It seems like banal blackmail that they will beg for in the form of compensation from NATO allies.
    7. Aleksander
      Aleksander 16 June 2016 19: 48
      +5
      Quote: Onegin
      Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.


      Yes, they will be! Tomorrow they will crush, promise ... And they will. Where are they going? After all, today they live at the expense of the EU ....
    8. vlad66
      vlad66 16 June 2016 19: 53
      +12
      After a while in Kiev, they announced that they were ready to send several of their warships to such a flotilla

      But do these horses have anything to send except Saygadyushny? request Or a couple of boats?
    9. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 16 June 2016 20: 06
      +1
      Quote: Onegin
      Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.




      Today against, tomorrow for. Like two fingers on the asphalt.
    10. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 16 June 2016 20: 07
      +5
      And I really like the Gulf of Mexico ... Beautiful, smart Russian cruisers, elegant Russian destroyers would look great there ...
      1. family tree
        family tree 16 June 2016 21: 28
        +1
        In the strait, a little north, cho drinks Two more hours with not much and I'm on vacation, the second half of 54, as many as 30 calendar, garage, bibika, how to rest. No, I’m wound up at sea, I have a mnu address here, on the southern coast of Bely, well, Gandvig which, as a rule, if the sea, it’s masculine, well, in the north it’s approximately.
    11. Talgat
      Talgat 16 June 2016 20: 32
      +1
      Quote: Onegin
      Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.


      Actually consistent

      Everything is repeated once again.

      In all wars, the Bulgarians took the side of Europe - Germany - well, it is understandable - the Bulgarians are middle-earth - and we are "Orcs" - simple geopolitics - McKinder, etc.

      But Hitler did not send the Bulgarians to the eastern front. And during the offensive of the Soviet army, the Bulgarians did not suit Berlin and Stalingrad. There was a green light. that is, they are on the west side - but if they don’t have any serious resistance. All the same, the factor of the Slavic Orthodox fraternity.

      But if without jokes, once again I remind everyone - Slavism is a myth, as well as pan-Turkism

      Only geopolitical kinship is real - that is, the Tuvinian Mongol or the Buryats will always be closer to the Russian than the Bulgarian or the Slovak or who else is there
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      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 16 June 2016 21: 15
        +3
        That's bad luck, compatriots, some kind of "bell pepper" scribbles with minuses as much as the guy makes noise. And in Bulgarian, surreptitiously, the finger is tired of extinguishing the minus. Come out, sneaky coward, let's have a discussion! negative
    14. 4ekist
      4ekist 16 June 2016 21: 23
      0
      The Russian company Atomstroyexport will receive compensation from Bulgaria about 620 million euros for the fact that Sofia has broken the agreement on the construction of a nuclear power plant in Albena. Such a decision was made by the arbitration court at the International Chamber of Commerce in Geneva.
      Maybe they don’t want to leave money quickly.
    15. seti
      seti 16 June 2016 21: 25
      +1
      As we know from experience, Bulgarians change their opinion quickly. The only question is who will put them in place of Kerry Nuland or someone else. It doesn't matter. Let's remember that after our good in 1878, they fought against us in two World Wars. Of course, who will remember the old, well, you know, but the fact is that this is more relevant than ever. Therefore, we are waiting for it to be announced that Borisov was "misunderstood"
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 16 June 2016 22: 10
        +2
        Of course, who will remember the old


        And who will forget both?
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    16. Kent0001
      Kent0001 16 June 2016 21: 36
      0
      Like a "brother" for old memory ...
    17. ohtandur
      ohtandur 17 June 2016 12: 01
      -3
      very consistent. The tourist season begins. And hints of sailing boats and yachts are proof of this. Just Bulgaria in the * opera. There is nowhere else to go, and in such a situation, I don’t care at diplomacy - you say what you think.
  2. isker
    isker 16 June 2016 19: 03
    +5
    or no money or a toad presses ...
    I do not believe in their "honest eyes with hands" ... the entire former post-Soviet space is rotten, very rotten
    1. Zus
      Zus 16 June 2016 19: 15
      0
      Well, don’t believe .. it’s immediately clear that you are a crest !!! And I believe little brothers !!! And they still have brains, not like Erdogan ... she and a couple .... Yenki! Yes, maybe there is no money, it’s better to put it on a social network than on a NATO linden ... Bravo Bulgarians !!!
      1. Gado
        Gado 16 June 2016 20: 40
        +20
        I see that you are an adequate person, not like some of those who commented here. And thank you!
        Nobody asked us ordinary people from the people whether we want to join NATO or not, and now the moment has come when our managers have listened to the people. And we really do not see a threat from Russia, although some of you have long been bombarded with threats. But we remember what Russia has done for us, and, God willing, still do it. Be healthy!
    2. reservist
      reservist 16 June 2016 19: 20
      -1
      those. statement "I do not see a threat to Bulgaria from Russia" not true and is there a threat?
      that is why the Bulgarians are friends with us against the Turks?
    3. family tree
      family tree 16 June 2016 21: 51
      +6
      Quote: isker
      or no money or a toad presses ...

      In vain, by the way. I’ll intercede. Those in Bulgaria who are closer to land and life, understand correctly, well, the Slavs, in general, can’t get into a fight in fashion, but they can help in a war, without a bazaar drinks
  3. Ased
    Ased 16 June 2016 19: 05
    +14
    Slightly off topic, but fun:
  4. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 June 2016 19: 07
    +4
    Now the US is organizing protests in Bulgaria like why Russia freed us from Turkey, demanding the resignation of the prime minister
  5. Olegater
    Olegater 16 June 2016 19: 09
    +3
    You don’t want to participate in the robbery of Russia in a criminal group called NATO, well then you will have the Bulgarians igil and terrorist attacks, and if you do not continue to cuddle then there will be a heart attack live on the main protesters (Prime Minister Borisov and President Plevneliev). Well, for the seed we will arrange a small Maidan and a color revolution and bell pepper will probably be a symbol of this outrage laughing . As previous events, orange with orange, clove, etc., etc.
  6. populist
    populist 16 June 2016 19: 10
    +16
    A somewhat unexpected and encouraging statement by the Bulgarian authorities.
    If I would like to establish relations with anyone, it is with Bulgaria.
    And these relationships can be mutually beneficial.
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  8. roskot
    roskot 16 June 2016 19: 11
    +3
    All according to Stanislovsky. I do not believe.
  9. dmitriyruss
    dmitriyruss 16 June 2016 19: 11
    0
    Just don’t clap your hands, they refused something, and what thread the missile defense element will deploy to the States at once
    1. Simon
      Simon 16 June 2016 19: 33
      +2
      What can I say here, it will be seen further, time will tell. Under the states they want to be or abandon them. Here, please, neither please the Americans, the year the budget is empty, the people are not happy, and America does not give anything, then you need to save money, not waste it on all kinds of fleets. request
  10. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 16 June 2016 19: 12
    +1
    What color the revolution in Bulgaria will be, is interesting. Although, rather, they will bend Borisov, they will save.
  11. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 16 June 2016 19: 12
    0
    To be a member of NATO and not to comply with the decisions of the alliance. It somehow somehow does not fit with the charter of the alliance. Or they do not have a charter, but have orders? Probably they have some kind of caste there. Hegemon fools around us with might and main.
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  13. volodya
    volodya 16 June 2016 19: 16
    0
    Really thought better? I can not believe something!
  14. raketnik
    raketnik 16 June 2016 19: 16
    +7
    hold me seven!!!! Shaw for a riot on the ship ???? Boyko Borissov is ready to become the main corrupt official in Bulgaria ?????
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 16 June 2016 19: 17
    0
    And I liked it, specifically: Like South Stream, Turkey and Bulgaria are on the side. Like the Fleet: Bulgaria save Turkey.
    Yes, of course, they break it down once or twice. But it's nice how they jump there.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 16 June 2016 19: 21
    +10
    Honestly - I did not expect it!
    They would have asked the Bulgarians, I think 90% of the population had such an answer, but in democracies they don’t ask a damn about the opinion of the people, that's why I’m surprised!
  17. Zus
    Zus 16 June 2016 19: 23
    +1
    Here's how to drink .... I knew that the mud will pour .... Yes, the mericosa will not forgive this. And if you don’t punish shit. But these are Merikos and they would not be Merikos if they missed it.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 June 2016 19: 54
      +1
      But the Bulgarians would not be Bulgarians if they had not twirled their skirts like slutty girls, then towards Russia, then towards Germany, then the USSR, then the USA. As I understand it, it's time for them to flirt with us again winked
  18. Wiruz
    Wiruz 16 June 2016 19: 25
    +1
    Oh! And what did our "brothers" remember about Mother Russia? Is life really bad without South Stream? If they did not see a threat, they would not join NATO, and even more so, they would not place American military bases on their territory. bully
    1. Zus
      Zus 16 June 2016 19: 30
      -1
      Here are the people ... "new" and with a big star! And here I am, too, "new" and I don't even have stripes! =)))
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 16 June 2016 19: 49
        0
        Here are the people ... "new" and with a big star! And here I am, too, "new" and I don't even have stripes! =)))

        We will provide now. Gray. And besides the stars and bastards, is there anything on the topic?
  19. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 16 June 2016 19: 31
    +7
    At least one country was found and showed common sense.
    Such a statement by Bulgaria is worth a lot, this was stated by the country's leadership, and not by an ex-prefix figure.
    After abandoning the South Stream, they realized that the EU was simply neglecting their interests.
    Russia is not going to fight with anyone, all sane people understand this.
    Unfortunately, tolerance and rationality are obviously not compatible, hence demonization, provocation, sanctions.
    It does not reach the heads of European states that they have made their countries the target, and in the event of war they will become a training ground, and there will be nothing to do with the trick.
    1. Sunseich
      Sunseich 16 June 2016 20: 28
      +3
      it's simple: in European countries - proteges
      pokurazhitsya and dump in the United States ... they do not care for the people
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 16 June 2016 22: 20
      +1
      Quote: olimpiada15
      At least one country was found and showed common sense.

      This is not common sense, it is just an insult. When Bulgaria was forced to abandon the UP, she got money, and no one from NATO and the EU did not even give her part of the losses. Now she shows the Turks a fig and shows. But, as experience shows, Boyko Borisov is such a gutta-percha, he is the master of his word, as he will, he will take it.
  20. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 16 June 2016 19: 33
    +2
    Everything is very simple-Bulgaria is essentially free of economics, and is not able to pull the supply of this new flotilla on a par with other countries! They don’t have enough money whatsoever, but here they put a vacuum cleaner in their pocket that the last loot will be pulled out!
  21. Sotnik77s
    Sotnik77s 16 June 2016 19: 33
    +4
    Well, glory to you, God, at least something finally began to be understood, as it was a little reasoned, maybe it will continue like that, God forbid !!!!
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 16 June 2016 20: 23
      0
      But who understands there, two important economical projects were cut off!. And they could have mowed the money belay
    2. Gado
      Gado 16 June 2016 20: 56
      +11
      Will, will be, the hope of us born during the Soviet Union never died, I hope, and you?
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 17 June 2016 22: 45
        +1
        I work with the Bulgarians. The older generation, not all, but most with sympathy for the Russian Federation. The younger one is already bombed, the western line is bending, but the future lies with them ...
  22. Приговор
    Приговор 16 June 2016 19: 33
    +2
    It's strange. Bulgarians behave like non-Bulgarians ..;))) What is it with them? Don't give money for the "flotilla"? Do you need to invest your own? ..;))
    1. Gado
      Gado 16 June 2016 20: 54
      +15
      And Russians don't always look Russians, but that doesn't make you Afghans, right?
      And we need money for other things, there will be no money at all to create a flotilla against Russia.
  23. t118an
    t118an 16 June 2016 19: 37
    0
    They are asking for money from Uncle Sam, NATO .. ​​and all ... more to the Brothers Vera no ..
  24. Mercenary
    Mercenary 16 June 2016 19: 40
    0
    Borisov is so cool until Biden is on a yacht? I do not believe the Bulgarians anymore.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 June 2016 19: 50
      0
      I do not believe the Bulgarians anymore.

      The second after the Poles winked
  25. izya top
    izya top 16 June 2016 19: 42
    +2
    can you really hope for south sweat ... requestwe have dumb money, we are in shreds tongue
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 16 June 2016 19: 50
      +1
      But everyone is healthy and in a good mood. Prime Minister tried bully
    2. poquello
      poquello 16 June 2016 20: 01
      0
      Quote: iza top
      can you really hope for south sweat ... requestwe have dumb money, we are in shreds tongue

      not quite so, there is no extra money (and they won’t have it), they will give Borisov a runner and let all the cadets sign a guarantee
  26. vanavatny
    vanavatny 16 June 2016 20: 04
    +4
    I noticed here that in any topic about Bulgaria (and what is clearly expressed about it negative ) someone quietly always minus, approximately one two people, bros, go out into the light laughing so rarely and with mistakes write something that I forgot about your name drinks do not hesitate in the end the scam not so much of you as of those whom you allowed yourself to lead, so let's contact love
    1. Gado
      Gado 16 June 2016 20: 48
      +13
      I have never minus anyone just like that and, as you see, I write in good Russian. And my other compatriots dumped from VO thanks to the misunderstanding which is observed at the end. And be so kind as to write the name of my homeland with a capital letter, otherwise you create the impression of an illiterate, all the best.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 16 June 2016 20: 57
        +3
        "... got out of VO due to misunderstanding ..."
        Get out of NATO (at least in the end) and gain understanding! hi And then, make chaotic movements, like feces in unfrozen water in the winter ...
        1. Gado
          Gado 16 June 2016 21: 21
          +12
          And you, I see, everything is clear, right? Have you already gained understanding? Everything is good in Russia and how it should be, right? You are no longer wondering about the future and have never made chaotic movements? Then I congratulate you, you are a true enlightener, do not want to be president?
      2. vanavatny
        vanavatny 16 June 2016 21: 19
        +1
        hmm, I admit the justice of your reproach, but only regarding my non-compliance with the rules of the Russian language, by the way your knowledge of it is not ideal laughing I also sincerely wish you well and express hope that certain progress in your glorious state will allow me to continue to prevent annoying flaws in spelling hi I really wish all the best to you and your people drinks love there is a suspicion of non-identity of his position on the line of authorities
        1. Gado
          Gado 17 June 2016 23: 11
          +5
          And you, I see, still think that you write competently, right? Or do you think that you speak Russian better than me ?! They will forgive me, Russian is not my native language, but look at your "work", which you have decorated with emoticons.
          Thank you for your wishes, and you do not get sick, and yes, you think correctly about non-identity, it is available. Good luck!
  27. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 16 June 2016 20: 13
    +3
    These "brothers", like Ukrainians, have their own zeal: the Arbitration Court at the International Chamber of Commerce in Geneva ruled in favor of JSC Atomstroyexport in a dispute with the National Electric Company of Bulgaria (NEC) to terminate the Belene NPP project; The court's decision is final, a representative of Rosatom said. Atomstroyexport "will receive 620 million euros from Bulgaria", - reports RIA Novosti the words of a representative of Rosatom. According to him, the court ruled to compensate Atomstroyexport for damage in the amount of 620 million euros.
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny 16 June 2016 20: 19
      0
      and there’s a penalty if they slow down with payment
  28. 2s1122
    2s1122 16 June 2016 20: 17
    0
    It seems that Bulgaria was simply overlooked on this issue. Or the Bulgarian Navy was undergoing repairs in an independent wassat
  29. Navy7981
    Navy7981 16 June 2016 20: 20
    +1
    Oh how! Even strange as that! Is Russia a threat? Now the Bulgarians will teach NAT to love.
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    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 16 June 2016 22: 25
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The fleet is an expensive thing.

      so it’s not about building new boxes. Formally, all the fleets of NATO countries are already known to whom. And the stupid initiative of the Turks to bung the consolidated fleet in the World Cup is not even idiocy. This is generally the twilight of psychiatry. To provoke an incident? Well, with the Xoxlahs, everything is clear - just let them take part in something consolidated - in gay parades, brigades, fleets or other European groups.
      And the Romanians, of course, pleased. Gypsy water camp is power.
  33. bald
    bald 16 June 2016 21: 23
    +1
    They are trying to regain the trust of Russia. They themselves threw themselves on money with the "South Stream" -fit. The nuclear power plant was abandoned. They have made big energy problems for themselves. Tourism and winemaking remain, but they are under sanctions - before, you had to think with your head about who to deal with. And they have no faith.
  34. sounddoc
    sounddoc 16 June 2016 21: 26
    +1
    Well, finance you sing yourself know that))) ... Trying to make a good face with a bad game is the eternal destiny of the rogue ...
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 16 June 2016 21: 39
      -3
      Quote: sounddoc
      the eternal destiny of the rogue ...

      = More precisely - traitors. They always suffer poverty, first spiritual, then material.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 16 June 2016 22: 12
        +2
        Quote: cherkas.oe
        = More precisely - traitors. They always suffer poverty, first spiritual, then material.

        favorite mantra of the local jingoistic patrioticum is "all traitors!" and a quote from Alexander III.
  35. Yak28
    Yak28 16 June 2016 21: 41
    -1
    Quote: fa2998
    Bulgaria is a mongrel of the West! The hosts will not like such words.

    Of course, they won’t like it, like the United States of France and the Mistrals besieged and showed who is the master in Europe. The USSR dismissed the Warsaw Pact countries, and the Americans did a good job of putting dogs on a strict collar. This is only if some republics of the USSR and Warsaw Pact countries betrayed Russia in a difficult moment. when Russia was sick and went over to the side of the most probable adversary, they would betray their overseas masters with ease if something went wrong in the USA. So we wait and see, only the main thing is that centuries later the Russian leadership and its people would remember the traitors like Ukraine, Georgia, Poland and so on, and they have never been forgiven for this.
  36. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 16 June 2016 22: 08
    +1
    Quote: vlad66

    But do these horses have anything to send except Saygadyushny?

    yeah, I have a similar question to
    in Kiev said they were ready to send several of their warships to such a flotilla

    this is the first. And the second: what the hell is xoxlam in general in the NATO synchronized rowing team?
    And in general - it’s time for NATO to branch off the branch - B3DO, i.e. - (may the local grammar nazi forgive me) in English-German-Italian-Romanian: Black See Difesa Organizație.
  37. bad
    bad 16 June 2016 22: 34
    0
    Bulgaria refused the offer to take part in the creation of the NATO Black Sea Flotilla: “We do not see any threats for ourselves from Russia”
    ... do you think that they, out of respect for RUSSIA, refuse? .. they simply didn’t unfasten the money laughing they will pay and they will run their pants forward .. I don’t believe these "brothers" for a penny .. No.
  38. Chulman
    Chulman 16 June 2016 22: 36
    +4
    And when they smoked cigarettes "brothers"
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 16 June 2016 22: 56
      -2
      Quote: Chulman
      And when they smoked cigarettes "brothers"

      and ate lecho and peas. So what? "Brothers" is an atavism. On that very Shipka the brothers ended.
      1. 1536
        1536 17 June 2016 21: 30
        0
        Smoking is harmful!
    2. Pitot
      Pitot 17 June 2016 01: 54
      +2
      I remember, dad smoked such. Without a filter ...
  39. Barakuda
    Barakuda 16 June 2016 23: 11
    +1
    Looks like Phil Kirkorov began to work for the FSB winked
  40. Garris199
    Garris199 16 June 2016 23: 34
    +5
    Stream-stream, but when it comes to military movements against Russia, the Bulgarians show a consistent, friendly position. For this they respect.
  41. The stranger
    The stranger 16 June 2016 23: 39
    +20
    Hmm. This analytics has gone - nowhere is cooler ...
    Guys, aren’t you ashamed sometimes for nonsense? And do not be lazy to twist the same mantra, regardless of what reason?
    As I look, no one not only does not know what happened, but in general is not interested. In the meantime, everything is simpler.
    Romania needs Moldova, but it itself is nobody, and there is no army, navy, or statehood. Therefore, she agreed to voice the desire of Turkey, which she really wants to spoil Russia, but, without at least formal foreign support, nothing. Even if we have neither the army nor the navy, and the population does not go against the Russians, but knowing what kind of rags in the leadership they tried. Then something went wrong, and the president and the Minister of War, who by innate extreme dullness would happily agree, today supported the Prime Minister, who refused. An altercation occurred between our Borisov and Erdogash, in which the Turks were sent by the forest. For which they immediately denounced the agreement on the return of refugees back to their territory. By the tone of Borisov’s statement, he simply got tired of endless tantrums and extortion of Erdogashi, and he worked according to his natural concepts, he is one of his brothers. In the 90s he started as a simple retailer. The formal reason that has been voiced is that there are far more NATO, we are already all NATO, and then there are some kind of muddy bilateral showdowns with some sort of Russia - let them understand, we have something to do, go on!
    By the way, this is the second hard blow on his part against Erdogan; six months ago, he beheaded the local Turkish residency, along with the pro-Erdogan party, which was about to become a shadow-ruling party. In this sense, Bulgaria has already acted as Russia's military ally, proactively blocking the Turkish fleet politically.
    There is nothing to conceal, I am also surprised by the foreign political spark on our part. This is not politics of course, but did not even count on so much. Even if the Americans simply gave a slap in the air to Erdogan with our hands, it’s still not bad.
    But most of you do not understand. At least one would ask what happened - you know that we are here. Already completely unfashionable to think? But no - the Elephant said without analyzing, It is visible to be a flood! And away we go ... But what if we meet tomorrow, look into your eyes, huh?
    1. teron
      teron 17 June 2016 10: 10
      +6
      Never mind, dear. On the one hand, the Russians from the NATO countries have not heard anything good over the past couple of years. On the other: the ability to think and analyze has long been out of trend with Russian education.
  42. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 June 2016 23: 40
    0
    Yes, I think that the dude is bent under the general decision.
    Well, or change to a more accommodating one.
    For an anti-Russian coalition is being formed in the Black Sea and
    such rulers who have an opinion different from that of those who have been let down from above
    there are unacceptable.
  43. overb
    overb 16 June 2016 23: 48
    -1
    Bulgaria refused the offer to take part in the creation of the NATO Black Sea Flotilla: “We do not see any threats for ourselves from Russia”

    Till. So far, refused. But they will give her, for example, 2 written off corvettes in the USA, then there is a chance that she will change her mind.
    There is nothing surprising here. Such is the proportion of small, and in this case also poor, countries. We have to spin, as it were in a frying pan.
  44. iouris
    iouris 16 June 2016 23: 49
    -2
    Lost in a Swiss arbitration court Rosatom and sharply wiser.
    1. The stranger
      The stranger 17 June 2016 00: 07
      +4
      Can you read who lost what?
      Rosatom lost. The lawsuit was for 1 euros. 200 were awarded, which no one disputed anyway - this is money for equipment already built.
      1. iouris
        iouris 17 June 2016 02: 04
        -2
        So what? This "built" has become illiquid, and "live" money will have to be given. And what is the economic benefit of Bulgaria from the implementation of Washington's decisions? That your partner's cow died? So the partner is no stranger.
        1. The stranger
          The stranger 17 June 2016 09: 31
          +6
          Is the VVER-1000 enclosure illiquid? Nu-nu ... Why are you going to sell breeders abroad, or do you consider reactors only fast neutrons? And do you already have VVER in the trash?

          The idiocy to discourage the Belem nuclear power plant was not even American, but European. Mostly French, they also destroyed the Kozloduy NPP.
  45. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 June 2016 04: 11
    -3
    One slaughtered became less, only for how long ..
  46. Plamenvarna
    Plamenvarna 17 June 2016 04: 17
    +5
    Hello patrioti Gazprom.
    Aren't you tired of la-la-la about "The Bulgarians ate UP us"?
    Not ?
    I suggest you complete the feat - to think once in a lifetime.
    ---
    Here is the problem condition:
    - the statue is completely without ... but sorry with another textbook ... I'll start first.
    - it means that the seller, Comrade Miler from Gazprom, is standing on one shore, he has gas in cash, he wants to change gas for money - bourgeois - at least the euro, at least the dolar.
    - a buyer is standing on the other side - comrade Merkel from the EU, she has bourgeois grandmothers, wants to change them - at least through SP-1, at least through SP-2, and if needed through SP-3 and more.
    QUESTION:
    - With some fear, comrade Merkel needs some South Stream, if he can take gas at lower transit costs directly through the Baltic Sea?
    CORRECT ANSWER:
    - with none.
    ADDITIONAL QUESTION:
    - how much time does the standard patriota need and to guess that the UP project had only one goal - to prevent the implementation of the NABUKO project, from which bourgeois grandmas won't go to Comrade Miler’s pocket?
    CORRECT ANSWER:
    - the patreot guessed already about the summer, but somehow it was inconvenient for him to publicly admit that it was so ... and that the Bulgarians crawled into the blind and played the dirty Gazprom game against the NABUKO on the Bulgarian.
    ANOTHER MORE QUESTION:
    - How long do you still think that this manipulation is to be held, that not your Bulgarians have been thrown, but they are you, and you will cease to be white and furry, and be rude to the Bulgarians?
    CORRECT ANSWER:
    - the manipulation of eta will be so clearly shown to you, immediately after the next OFFICIAL statement, once by your ruler, that the Bulgarians have obstructed the UP.
    ====
    The second task.
    CONDITIONS:
    - there is a statue that did not think at all that it would ever be ... ohhh I again began to read from another textbook.
    - it means that the seller, comrade Miler from Gazprom, is located on one coast, the gas pipeline is built if only for his grandmothers, he will blame himself, if that, but if he took bulgarians (50% - borrow from him) he will blame, they will stomp and the Bulgarians + will return the debt to the comrades Milera.
    - along the bottom of the Black Sea (in places of 1,7 km. depth), then through the territory of Bulgaria, a pipe was placed, pipe manufacturers and pipe layers took the headstock to the pipe. And the pipe passed through some countries and rested on the powerful chest of Comrade Merkel. And Comrade Merkel says, comrades, myrrh bearers ... sorry for the gas, I remind you that WE TOLD YOU THAT YOUR GAS DOES NOT MEET OUR TERMS AND WILL NOT BE TAKEN.
    I repeat to the patriots, they are difficult to move their brains - I have been told by YOU EUROPEAN THAT THIS YOUR PIPELINE DOES NOT MEET OUR TERMS !!! OUR, not the conditions of the Bulgarians (as there was - Bulgaria is not abroad, but our chicken)
    QUESTION:
    - Comrade Miler, what will he do?
    CHOOSE THE RIGHT ANSWER:
    (a) Comrade Miler will shoot himself immediately and forever;
    (b) Comrade Miler, shoot the one who clicked on him, and then shoot himself, so that the friends of the one who clicked are not tortured to death;
    (c) Comrade Miler fill the pipes with gas and sit there on the tap’s ground - wait until Comrade Merkel graciously allows him to slightly open the tap so that Comrade Miler pays for the costs by around the year 3000;
    (d) Comrade Miller, to fill the pipes with water from the Black Sea and begin to transit through the pipe — such a pipeline to Europe.
    (f) Comrade Miller thought that the then Bulgarian president, Comrade Piervanov, would press on the EU, but it turned out as always - one balabolka, balabolila another balabolka, then the calculator (which is Bulgarian for the bookkeeper) took the calculator, pressed a few keys and said - it’s better to send a pipe blow to Europe to the north - where the grandmother is waiting for us.
    1. Sly
      Sly 17 June 2016 07: 00
      0
      Quote: PlamenVarna
      Aren't you tired of la-la-la about "The Bulgarians ate UP us"?

      It is painted a lot, but I think it’s more complicated, there are a lot of other factors.
      And on the fact of your quote, that UP did not start - so we don’t worry about ourselves, but how much more for your country and citizens who could make a profit and this could bring our states closer together. It is strange that you do not understand this.
      And UP or SP or somewhere else, something else will draw anyway - the water wears away the stone, it’s a pity that it’s not with you anymore!
      1. The stranger
        The stranger 17 June 2016 09: 46
        +2
        I won’t say anything about grandmas — I don’t know. UP was more a political project than an economic one, like the Belene NPP half as well. What, by and large, of course, we were interested in. That’s why there was so much noise, that’s why they failed. But of course not us.
  47. Wolka
    Wolka 17 June 2016 05: 55
    -1
    apparently still hoping to revive the southern stream ...
    1. Mudry
      Mudry 17 June 2016 17: 35
      +1
      I don’t think ... Elections in autumn :)
  48. Taygerus
    Taygerus 17 June 2016 06: 37
    +5
    I hope someday the Bulgarians will again become our closest allies drinks
    1. Mudry
      Mudry 17 June 2016 17: 30
      +3
      This will happen only after the collapse of the EU and NATO. As long as we are blue in power, the official position will be about the EU and about NATO.
    2. potapych
      potapych 20 June 2016 12: 43
      0
      and when were that ????
      first, no
      in the second - no
      when NATO Serbs wet - no.
  49. VP
    VP 17 June 2016 07: 00
    0
    Quote: Onegin
    Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.

    From what ?
    Turks offered with ukrami. And they are not the authority for the Bulgarians, why for the sake of them, without any profit, enter into the next.
    If the Americans suggested, they would jump out of their pants in executive zeal.
    1. The stranger
      The stranger 17 June 2016 09: 48
      +1
      Not, this time not Ukrainians, but corn-makers, to the Turkish tune. Well, Romanians.
  50. mamont5
    mamont5 17 June 2016 07: 09
    -1
    Quote: Onegin
    Inconsistent which Bulgarians ... I will not be here.

    And there is. The right hand does not know what the left does (says).