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Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense

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Russia and China are developing a hypersonic weapon to overcome the missile defense systems of continental America, Forbes magazine cites the opinion of one of the leaders of the program on the nuclear policy of the Washington Carnegie Foundation James Acton.


Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense


"I suspect that the Russian gliders will be extremely effective in overcoming existing defenses, such as the GBMD system, designed to protect the continental United States," - Acton quotes RIA News.

“The United States also has the THAAD missile system, but it is aimed at intercepting medium-range missiles, rather than intercontinental ones. I don’t think that Moscow is developing gliders to fight THAAD, ”said the expert.

The article notes that "despite its highest speed, hypersonic devices remain maneuverable and are capable of hitting targets around the world with an accuracy of up to several meters, within an hour of the launch."

Gliders "can carry both nuclear and conventional charges, while tracking them is extremely difficult: the flight takes place at lower altitudes than in the case of ballistic missiles, and ground-based radars are powerless," explains the magazine.

“Thus, a substantial part of the world's nuclear arsenals may be vulnerable to hypersonic gliders,” the author writes.

In the US, they are also actively engaged in the development of such weapons: the program for creating the “Advanced Hypersonic Weapon” military unit was launched in 2003. Its creation is estimated at $ 2,4 billion.

“For decades, the strategies of Russia, the USA and China relied on the so-called“ nuclear triad ”: submarines, ballistic missiles and strategic bombers. However, after the end of the Cold War, new missile defense systems began to be introduced in the United States and Europe, which worried Moscow and Beijing extremely, ”the publication says.

In Moscow, in particular, they stated that the American missile defense system in combination with a hypersonic weapon would lead to a violation of the strategic balance of forces.
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  1. Engineer
    Engineer 16 June 2016 10: 16
    +6
    Glider Glider is a planning vehicle! The expert called a senseless GBMD and a good THAAD, but completely forgot about the basis of US missile defense.
    1. Kostyar
      Kostyar 16 June 2016 10: 27
      +3
      Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense

      Drain the snot of the G-recession Americans, or else there will be ..... !!!
      1. USSR 1971
        USSR 1971 16 June 2016 10: 29
        +1
        That's just James and I believe. And all that he writes.
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 16 June 2016 10: 56
          +3
          Quote: USSR 1971
          That's just James and I believe. And all that he writes.

          Come to your senses, for only Dave Mezhdudyrm brings the light of truth!
      2. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 16 June 2016 10: 34
        +6
        Yes, it’s not about, with the massive use of nuclear weapons it will not seem weak to everyone, the topic of Nuclear Winter has not been canceled, and those who survive will envy the dead.
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 16 June 2016 10: 45
          +6
          Something I looked at our football fans ... I think these developments will already be superfluous ..! (Joke)))) I can’t do it again, my laugh makes it to tears ... laughing wassat
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 16 June 2016 13: 49
        +3
        Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense

        Did the "partners" fidget? And there was nothing to squeal about the concept of an instant global strike! Here we are! lol
    2. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 16 June 2016 10: 48
      +2
      What is the article about ??? )))
      What for hypersonic glider, not too long ago as yesterday the article here was about nuclear weapons. So there, if I'm not mistaken, figures of 10 mach appeared at the stage of passage of the atmosphere - or is this not hypersound ????
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 16 June 2016 10: 59
        +3
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        What is the article about ??? )))
        What for hypersonic glider, not too long ago as yesterday the article here was about nuclear weapons. So there, if I'm not mistaken, figures of 10 mach appeared at the stage of passage of the atmosphere - or is this not hypersound ????

        At the final stage, such speeds seem to be like. But it is necessary that on the entire section of the trajectory ..
        1. BEECH 1972
          BEECH 1972 17 June 2016 23: 31
          0
          Quote: Muvka
          At the final stage, such speeds seem to be like. And it is necessary that the entire section of the trajectory.

          That's the whole point. If the ICBM brought the combat platform to the marching section of the trajectory and the separation of warheads occurred, then it has already completed its mission. Because if the warheads reached the terminal portion of the trajectory, then this process is already irreversible, just as the punishment from above is irreversible. And then the numerous critics from the meeting and mourning parties will no longer have time to assess the ICBM flight. They will be much more interested in the characteristics of the nearest shelter, of which many have survived since the Cold War.
      2. Karasik
        Karasik 16 June 2016 12: 13
        +1
        The article is a horror story for Americans. A very useful horror story, there would be more of these. To cool your hot heads! Let them know that they have two options against hypersonic weapons: to express concern, or to express extreme concern!
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        What is the article about ??? )))
      3. region58
        region58 16 June 2016 13: 12
        +1
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        10 max at the stage of passage of the atmosphere - or is it not hypersound ????

        Quote: Muvka
        At the final stage, such speeds seem to be like. But it is necessary that on the entire section of the trajectory ..

        An ICBM has a ballistic trajectory (it is called an intercontinental ballistic missile), that is, predictable to any decimal place (taking into account the "bus" and the atmosphere, it is a little different, but the essence does not change), plus the apogee of the trajectory reaches several thousand kilometers, that is, they are detected at a time.
        The article is about an arbitrary trajectory in the dense layers of the atmosphere, that is, even if you find this device, it is extremely difficult to take any measures for the remaining seconds before arrival.
        Information on such developments is zero (everything is under the heading), so I have a very skeptical attitude to all articles on this topic. Most likely, as usual, they hint at the noise that money would be allocated.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 16 June 2016 14: 11
          +1
          Quote: region58
          ICBM ballistic trajectory (it is called intercontinental ballistic missile)

          Modern Russian ICBMs and other BRs are multifunctional:
          can fly to the target along different trajectories - ballistic (classic), "flat", aero-ballistic (Iskander, for example), "imaginary" (acceleration-deceleration, "yaw" along the roll) some ICBMs are plane to everything - along the "orbital" , for example, through Yu.P ...
          1. region58
            region58 16 June 2016 19: 14
            0
            This article is about the United States:
            Russia and China are developing hypersonic weapons to overcome the missile defense systems of continental America, Forbes magazine cites

            so that
            "flat", aero-ballistic (Iskander, for example)
            Iskanders do not roll here.
            "imaginary" (acceleration-deceleration, "yaw" on the roll)
            after all this (by the way braking is how?) pure ballistics.
            Again there are maneuvering warheads - but that's a different song.
            some ICBMs are flat to everything - along the "orbital", for example, through Yu.P ...

            R-36orb and the like are prohibited by the OSV-2 agreement, if you are talking about them.
            If we recall the "Satan", then it does not care through the north, through the south, across the equator, but again, after turning off the engine - ballistics.
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 16 June 2016 13: 57
        0
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        What is the article about ??? )))
        What for hypersonic glider, not too long ago as yesterday the article here was about nuclear weapons. So there, if I'm not mistaken, figures of 10 mach appeared at the stage of passage of the atmosphere - or is this not hypersound ????

        See, there are differences. Ballistic ICBMs fly along a ballistic trajectory, it is higher than that of a glider, which makes it possible for enemy radars to detect a rocket in space, where it is not yet surrounded by a plasma atmospheric cocoon absorbing radio waves. In addition, the glider is controlled along the entire flight path, which is a very significant factor for passing the enemy’s missile defense.
        1. region58
          region58 16 June 2016 19: 42
          0
          Quote: GSH-18
          where it is not yet surrounded by a atmospheric plasma cocoon absorbing radio waves

          This is a bit wrong. Or rather not at all. In the end, the radio waves are completely reflected from the ionosphere (essentially plasma), and the aurora (also essentially plasma) is visible on radars.
          1. region58
            region58 16 June 2016 20: 17
            +1
            I forgot about meteorites: - fly into the atmosphere at speeds of 11-72 km / s. On the radars you can see. Like warheads.
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 16 June 2016 12: 08
      +3
      Something too many experts have divorced recently, especially in the USA and Ukraine. What is not a blogger, is an expert, that is not a journalist, is an expert observer, that is not a kettle in front of a computer, then a guru in all matters and the last resort. And what American experts have been saying recently is unfortunate propaganda with a custom textbook. Everything is done to increase the military budget under any pretext.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 16 June 2016 15: 23
        0
        Obviously, you simply do not see many aspects of the discussions. Firstly, if someone expresses his opinion on the site of this forum, it is rather people who sympathize with Russia. Enemies do not share their reasoning, but hide and create and use their weapons. Therefore, superfluous information is a new idea and the opportunity to hear it, if there is one, and if it is not just empty talk. And that is why you, like in the Soviet Union - "there is no sex because it is not." Learn to listen and hear. I know many scientists with progressive ideas who are no longer looking towards Russia, but something will happen sometime and somewhere, and whoever owns will have priority for many years. So think. what do you say and
    4. Pavel1
      Pavel1 16 June 2016 12: 12
      0
      a glider isn’t for good, but the meaning is absolutely inaccurate, so a hypersonic plane should be called differently, in our opinion, I suggest calling it a REAL.
  2. Siberian
    Siberian 16 June 2016 10: 16
    +4
    Well, science does not stand still, especially in the military sphere. You create missile defense, we create what makes your missile defense useless. There is a reason - there is a consequence. smile
  3. avvg
    avvg 16 June 2016 10: 17
    +2
    We are glad that we have something to answer to Washington and its satellites. However, it is possible that against the Russian hypersonic glider, the Pentagon will ask from the budget a lot of money.
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 16 June 2016 10: 23
    +5
    Missile defense and aug, you say? I wouldn’t have to pray to my grandfather’s tambourine for the last time, Nobel laureate. And you do not go.
  5. Taygerus
    Taygerus 16 June 2016 10: 25
    +4
    good pentogon foam
  6. siberalt
    siberalt 16 June 2016 10: 28
    +4
    Well, if the author "suspects", then OW! laughing As for the joint design with China, then, in principle, neither we nor the Chinese need it. Here, certainly each on its own.
    1. Eugen
      Eugen 16 June 2016 11: 06
      +1
      Indeed, if everything is so cool, then such weapons are not jointly developed.
  7. sogdianec
    sogdianec 16 June 2016 10: 30
    +1
    Agency "OBS". Hand face. Why push bullshit on the forum?
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 June 2016 10: 32
    +5
    Well, the hypers will fly to the merikatos. Well, turn their continent upside down. Who will be worse from this, except themselves? And judging by their behavior, they have an irresistible desire to "get a grenade." Why not deny the pleasure of the Merikatos! laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 June 2016 10: 39
      -4
      He will fly to them, but he will also fly to us from them - only twice as powerful.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 16 June 2016 10: 48
        +2
        Vadim237 (3) RU Today, 10:39 ↑ New
        He will fly to them, but he will also fly to us from them - only twice as powerful.

        From the bottom of the sea, hypers do not take off! fellow
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 16 June 2016 12: 10
          -4
          In terms of megatonnes of strategic nuclear forces we are twice as inferior to the United States - 830 against 1606.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 16 June 2016 13: 27
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            In terms of megatonnes of strategic nuclear forces we are twice as inferior to the United States - 830 against 1606.

            what And the meaning and difference? all the same, 40-50 percent of missiles will fly to both sides and it is enough to destroy both countries several times, and the fact that the bulk of the US population and industrial facilities are located on the coasts must be taken into account.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 16 June 2016 14: 12
              0
              The idea is that these 830 megatons will have to be divided between the NATO countries and the USA - Russia will get twice as much as the opponents combined.
              1. Krasniy_lis
                Krasniy_lis 16 June 2016 15: 50
                -3
                Quote: Vadim237
                The point is

                the point is that no matter how many were not enough to cover the entire territory of the Russian Federation.
                And the point is that perhaps there will be no one to send a "response".
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 16 June 2016 17: 53
                  -1
                  “The point is that perhaps there will be no one to send a response. - There will be a counter strike - so that everything will fly, but the one who attacks first will achieve great success.” The point is that no matter how much there is, it will not be would cover the entire territory of the Russian Federation. "And calculations say the opposite - 1606 megatons will cover 24 million square kilometers with a radioactive footprint - with an annual dose of 0,02 Gy / year for 1 year, which is equivalent to 2 Roentgens per year or 0,02 Sievert - the territory can be considered unfit for life during the first year.
                  1. insular
                    insular 16 June 2016 23: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    And the calculations say the opposite - 1606 megatons will cover 24 million square kilometers with a radioactive trail - with an annual dose of 0,02 Gy / year for 1 year, which is equivalent to 2 X-rays per year or 0,02 Sievert - the territory can be considered unsuitable for life during the first year .
                    Here it is such a thing that the total megatons will cover the whole earth and the planet will become unsuitable for life.
                    Have you heard anything about the "last war of mankind"? What difference does it make to whom and how many will arrive, if after that no one will live ...
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 17 June 2016 10: 56
                      0
                      "Here is the point that the total megatons will cover the entire earth and the planet will become uninhabitable." - This is a fairy tale - I gave you figures from practical studies of the impact of a nuclear explosion on the territory, after the first year the zone of radioactive contamination will decrease tenfold with each subsequent year - the entire megatonnage of Russia and the United States will cover the territory with radioactive fallout with an area of ​​36 million square kilometers - the surface area the globe is 510 million square kilometers, all other countries have lived and will continue to live, only in new environmental conditions, but they will fight them because the entire infrastructure there will survive. Even in the United States and Russia, most of the people will not die. The most dangerous radioactive element formed after a thermonuclear explosion for humans is Iodine 131, but it has a half-life of only 8 days, other elements are longer-lived Strontium 90 - 28 years, Cesium 137 - 30 years and Americium 241 - 433 years. In an open space, an ordinary medical bandage can save them from entering the body through the respiratory tract.
                2. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 16 June 2016 22: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasniy_lis
                  And the point is that perhaps there will be no one to send a "response".
                  The impression is that you have never heard of "Permeter"!
                  And besides, where is the guarantee that all our rpkSNs will be tracked down and destroyed? And the "Barguzins"? Yes, and the strategists on duty are also not sickly to answer. yes
                  1. Krasniy_lis
                    Krasniy_lis 21 June 2016 16: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    you have never heard of "Permeter"!

                    in general, it was about the strike of the Russian Federation 1 US 2. In the light of the article on hypersonic missiles. And not vice versa USA 1, RF 2. This is where the "perimeter" will work.
                3. Corsair
                  Corsair 17 June 2016 11: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasniy_lis
                  And the point is that perhaps there will be no one to send a "response".

                  laughing that is, do you assume that the United States and its allies will gulp all their missiles in one gulp and they will almost instantly teleport to us?
                  1. Krasniy_lis
                    Krasniy_lis 21 June 2016 16: 43
                    0
                    Quote: Corsair
                    that the us with the allies

                    one more. Reread the branch. The conversation was about
                    Quote: aszzz888
                    Well, hypers will fly to the mericatos. Well, their continent is upside down. Who will be worse off from this than themselves?

                    Quote: Vadim237
                    The point is that these 830 megatons will have to be divided between NATO countries and the United States

                    Quote: Krasniy_lis
                    the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    And the point is that perhaps there will be no one to send a "response".

                    otvetka not "from us to them." In light of the discussion above, how would it be obvious?
  9. dmitriyruss
    dmitriyruss 16 June 2016 10: 40
    +2
    We need these Gliders now, and taking into account the time required to bring them to mind and start production, we will cut like butter the US missile defense system closer to 2030, and then provided that there is adequate military-political leadership at the helm, and it's not about Dima "No money, hold on"
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 June 2016 18: 02
      0
      In 2030 they will improve their missile defense system and it will be able to shoot down ICBM warheads during separation, as well as everything that flies — the number of missile defense systems and their carriers will increase dramatically.
    2. INTA_VEGA
      INTA_VEGA 20 June 2016 13: 56
      0
      Therefore, there is no money, that an adequate military-political leadership puts them in the Gliders. The current pension is enough to eat. The necessary medicines - there is a whole state program. If you want to live normally in old age, you had to give birth and raise normal children. In the socialist PRC, for most of the population, an old-age pension is not provided for at all, maybe that's why they drag their own economy?
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 16 June 2016 10: 41
    +1
    Quote: Bone
    Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense

    Drain the snot of the G-recession Americans, or else there will be ..... !!!

    In my opinion, the Americans are in too much of a hurry, and our "uryakalok" should wait a little (at least about 5 years)! THERE IS NO ARMS NOW, and "gliders" are not even tested! There are only beautiful pictures taken from the Internet. Although as a horror story, that- to knock money out of the budget. Let the old "Satan" at least "get tired" - there is such a throw-away weight that you will get tired of shooting down false targets. yes hi


    1. Muvka
      Muvka 16 June 2016 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: Bone
      Expert: Russian hypersonic glider will easily “cut through” US defense

      Drain the snot of the G-recession Americans, or else there will be ..... !!!

      In my opinion, the Americans are in too much of a hurry, and our "uryakalok" should wait a little (at least about 5 years)! THERE IS NO ARMS NOW, and "gliders" are not even tested! There are only beautiful pictures taken from the Internet. Although as a horror story, that- to knock money out of the budget. Let the old "Satan" at least "get tired" - there is such a throw-away weight that you will get tired of shooting down false targets. yes hi

      Just the same, they are tested and quite successfully. Follow the news.
  11. atamankko
    atamankko 16 June 2016 10: 42
    +1
    There is an antidote for every poison.
  12. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 June 2016 10: 43
    +1
    It will not cut through, but will burn through any defense of the United States and NATO. Let them spend money on their own defenses, let them see another "monkey labor", and we smile at the "advanced" West.
  13. Koresh
    Koresh 16 June 2016 10: 47
    +1
    The title can be designated as follows: guard give money for a new missile defense! Russian aggression everywhere! From football fans to hypersonic weapons !!!
  14. kolkulon
    kolkulon 16 June 2016 10: 47
    0
    Let them know and be afraid. Ignorance can push them to rash steps.
  15. Berber
    Berber 16 June 2016 10: 52
    +1
    Whatever the United States is doing now is a desire to bring back the time of the Cold War. They use all kinds of horror stories and misinformation of everyone - both ours, and geyrops, and us. The goal is to regain dominance. There is also a military lobby that uses the cynical US budget. Indeed, from real production only the US military-industrial complex is always in the black. And no matter what fantastic projects the weapons developers spend: F35 (which doesn’t fly in any way), combat lasers, freeze, the last space project with a landing stage, etc. guilty of this and never will be.
    Let them spend money
  16. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    -1
    “Thus, a significant part of the world's nuclear arsenals may be vulnerable to hypersonic gliders”

    It is tempting how !!! repeat Knock out this support of impudence and permissiveness from the "untouchables" and the world would begin to live much quieter and better! hi
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 16 June 2016 11: 42
      0
      If from the world for this period something remains.
      1. INTA_VEGA
        INTA_VEGA 20 June 2016 14: 04
        0
        Yes, the world will just remain. Unless the USA, Russia, Europe will fall in the Middle Ages. But whether this will be better and calmer is a big question.
  17. pavelty
    pavelty 16 June 2016 11: 03
    0
    It smacks of light delirium ... before such technologies it’s still to saw and saw (in a good way))
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 June 2016 11: 06
    0
    In the photo in the article, the Chinese experimental apparatus WU-14.
    He made three successful flights.

    Among the Americans, the Boeing is most close to something real.
    Pictured is a rocket engine with a ramjet engine
    under the wing of the B-52.
    Reached the speed of 9.5 MAX in the tests. Americans are trying to achieve
    sustainable remote controllability of the device throughout the flight.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 16 June 2016 12: 23
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Pictured is a rocket engine with a ramjet engine
      under the wing of the B-52.

      ... they still have an experiment with a scramjet, the Russians and Indians have Zircon and Brahmos-2, as well as a variant of equipment for the Sarmat -






      On the other hand, GLIDER and LA with a scramjet engine are two big differences ...

      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 June 2016 13: 17
        +1
        Something the upper scheme does not fit well with common sense.
        ICBM warheads for good reason - symmetrical short cones with a thick shell
        (from overheating). They are aimed at the target in space before the descent (by the stars). Then they fall almost vertically down like meteorites.
        Therefore, it is extremely difficult to intercept them.
        How (and why?) To place gliders instead of these cones is unclear.
        They will be untwisted and carried away at the slightest attempt to deviate from the line.
        Another thing is the horizontal glider. They can be raised to the stratosphere
        and shoot almost horizontally on the target. Accelerating gradually, he can
        fly away for thousands of kilometers. Management is problematic, but working on it.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 16 June 2016 14: 01
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          How (and why?) To place gliders instead of these cones is unclear.

          ... are you familiar with the concept of "energy-consuming quasi-ballistic flat" ICBM trajectory? :)))
          When the track does not exceed the height of something no more than 150-160km.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 16 June 2016 14: 15
            0
            The second photo shows a general demonstrator of a hypersonic passenger plane, which Russia is developing together with Australia.
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  19. sa-ag
    sa-ag 16 June 2016 11: 11
    0
    Gliders “can carry both a nuclear and conventional charge, and it’s extremely difficult to track them

    "I can see everything from above, you just know" (C) :-)
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 16 June 2016 11: 51
      0
      In fact, first you need to achieve a stable flight at such speeds. And there are no prerequisites for such a thing at all. Why, because in mathematics there is a concept of dimension, and the polarization of an aircraft from beginning to end is subject to varying degrees the processes of hull ionization by the flight environment. Therefore, after about five years, remember my words that even a minute will not be able to support a controlled flight. In general, the system and methodology for estimating flight speed does not give an answer that an object is flying that was launched or the remains of its disaggregated structure are in a melting state.
  20. bad
    bad 16 June 2016 11: 15
    +1
    "I suspect that Russian gliders will be extremely effective in overcoming existing defenses, such as the GBMD system, designed to protect the US continental territory," RIA Novosti quoted Acton as saying.
    ..and I suspect that you are stupidly promoting .. "expert" laughing you need to grow up to dave majumara .. here he is an expert so expert .. laughing
  21. Cananecat
    Cananecat 16 June 2016 11: 32
    0
    Work with plasma is underway and do not hide it. So sho will be something to see soon.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 16 June 2016 11: 55
      0
      Sorry, but plasma processes are highly dynamic complex processes at the level of electromagnetic interactions. Moreover, the plasma behaves identically to the behavior of the hydrogas dynamic flow of a mobile substance. Therefore, you can look at the "bolt", but the processes need to be analyzed and modeled, but there are no methods for assessing complex physical processes.
    2. gridasov
      gridasov 16 June 2016 17: 46
      0
      Sorry, but plasma processes are highly dynamic complex processes at the level of electromagnetic interactions. Moreover, the plasma behaves identically to the behavior of the hydrogas dynamic flow of a mobile substance. Therefore, you can look at the "bolt", but the processes need to be analyzed and modeled, but there are no methods for assessing complex physical processes.
  22. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 June 2016 12: 19
    +1
    Quote: gridasov
    plasma processes are highly dynamic complex processes at the level of electronic magnetic interactions.

    This factor is the main limitation on attempts to achieve stable remote controllability of the device throughout the flight.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 16 June 2016 15: 34
      +1
      But! e-mail processes magnetic interactions can be controlled and most importantly they can be analyzed as accurate determinations by dimension, direction of the process development vector and as a relative state in the potential. Secondly, it’s nice to see adequate people in your face who understand the reality of what is happening and the need for new methods of analysis. After all, everyone has heard the notion of “complex methods of analysis,” and no one sees or understands their essence as it should be. Naturally, there are no direct solutions to vital tasks. Including controlled and long flight in the mode of new properties and interactions.
  23. Oskar1965
    Oskar1965 16 June 2016 12: 32
    0
    Quote: jarome
    I recall the folklore ...
    Another chicken in the nest, testicle ....
    More than one year will pass before we see hypersound in the form in which we present it.
    There is a lot of talk about development, even layouts, but so far nothing more, and this is a sign of "not soon meeting", verified.

    Well done, buddy!
  24. Ardein
    Ardein 16 June 2016 12: 36
    +2
    Actually, we summarize:

    1. Developing a vehicle that can fly at speeds under M = 10 is no longer a problem either for us, or for the Chinese, or for the United States.
    2. Full-scale tests in the Russian Federation of a new combat unit ALREADY were carried out using the Stiletto as a carrier.
    3. Work continues. (at least a flying laboratory based on Il-76 for this program, as well as a state tender for the construction of production facilities for the production of these same gliders (more precisely, only the product number is indicated in the tender, not the name itself))
    4. The main problem of creating the final product lies precisely in providing controllability and communication with the apparatus on the main course. Judging by the indirect data - ours somehow managed to solve this problem.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 June 2016 14: 19
      +1
      4. "The main problem of creating the final product lies precisely in ensuring controllability and communication with the apparatus on the marching sector. Judging by indirect data, we somehow managed to solve this problem" - This problem was solved back in the 80s, on guided warheads for the R36M2 The Glider is a conventional maneuvering warhead.
  25. shinobi
    shinobi 16 June 2016 13: 31
    +1
    And why did everyone cling to hypersound. The standard ballistic maneuvering warhead (that is, maneuvering along the ballistic line of course), which has been in service since the middle of 80gg, reaches the target at a speed of 4,5-5 km / s. At the moment, none of the existing and promising missile defense systems are not able to intercept them. That is, if the upper stage put the cartridge into orbit, then before separation it can still be intercepted by anti-satellite systems, which only the Chinese and we have, as if the Yankees did not puff up. that is. So the super super-duper hyper, 10 max, 2350 m / s. It is assumed that these devices will be cheaper than solid-fuel ICBMs, but it is only assumed. Actually, this and the principle of launching the atmosphere-atmosphere all the advantages.
  26. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 16 June 2016 13: 33
    +1
    Be that as it may, in any case, it is necessary to throw all possible and impossible forces and means into the development of hypersonic missiles, as well as urgently and thoroughly work out the question of laying the many nuclear deep-sea explosive bombs around the perimeter of America and small Britain. Well, STATUS should be urgently put on combat duty, to organize an underwater flock of them and connect to the Perimeter, for sure!
  27. Samoyed
    Samoyed 16 June 2016 16: 17
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    It is necessary to use internal "weapons" in the United States. Type: dams of power plants, hazardous chemical industries, skyscrapers .... That is, the weapon used will only detonate the subsequent destructive action from the "bookmarks" made by the Americans themselves. The domino effect.
  28. Old26
    Old26 17 June 2016 07: 02
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    Quote: Ardein
    Actually, we summarize:

    1. Developing a vehicle that can fly at speeds under M = 10 is no longer a problem either for us, or for the Chinese, or for the United States.

    To develop, yes, not a problem. Problem bring
    to working condition

    Quote: Ardein
    2. Full-scale tests in the Russian Federation of a new combat unit ALREADY were carried out using the Stiletto as a carrier.

    Did not take place. Only tested PROTOTYPE such a block

    Quote: Ardein
    3. Work continues. (at least a flying laboratory based on Il-76 for this program, as well as a state tender for the construction of production facilities for the production of these same gliders (more precisely, only the product number is indicated in the tender, not the name itself))

    Work is ongoing, and indeed in relation to production facilities. And the product number is said, not the name or index of the GRAU, just because it probably has not reached the stage when it comes to the finished product. Of course, work continues on hypersound, but with problems, last year Boris Obnosov spoke about this, saying that up to 5M there are no more problems, but with 6-10M the problems have not yet been resolved
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 17 June 2016 09: 30
      +1
      Quite often, when talking with interested people, it is worth noting such an important aspect as what we want to create, shall we say this - a working form of an aircraft or we want to create a complex of physical effects that will allow the same aircraft to fly in a new quality or under new physical conditions - hypersound. And if it is understood that we are still striving to achieve controlled complex physical effects, then we can clearly say that there are no technologies for rotating the same rotor or a corny simple rotation disk at such speeds in atmospheric conditions. This means that there is no way to compare this with the phenomena in the conditions of aircraft flight. Therefore, we are working, for example, in the direction of creating a basic sample of a device that combines transformation processes both in "hardware", but also in the flight environment, or in the substance of the flight environment. In other words, the task is to ensure that the rotor speed at the periphery is at least twice the speed of sound. But! But if I told you what physical effects are reproduced there, it is in email. magnetic level, I'm sure everyone would say it's fantastic. This is actually a new opportunity in creating a new quality and the same water, when it is distilled, but with the properties of electrical conductivity of salt brine and the freezing point is orders of magnitude lower than you can even imagine. But! Again, these are, first of all, new methods of understanding the processes that can and do occur during a hyperspeed flight of an object. And it is obvious that everything is deeply different from what many imagine.
  29. Old26
    Old26 17 June 2016 07: 14
    +2
    Quote: Volzhanin
    Be that as it may, in any case, it is necessary to throw all possible and impossible forces and means into the development of hypersonic missiles, as well as urgently and thoroughly work out the question of laying the many nuclear deep-sea explosive bombs around the perimeter of America and small Britain. Well, STATUS should be urgently put on combat duty, to organize an underwater flock of them and connect to the Perimeter, for sure!

    You also forgot to mention "Caliber" and "Iskander", then there would be a complete set of weapons systems usually mentioned at posts like "We'll tear everyone."

    And what, without the development of hypersonic KR, which, as you write, you need to throw all your strength and money into, there will be a khan? Maybe let everything go on as usual?

    The laying of many deep-sea nuclear explosives along the perimeter of these two countries is certainly enchanting, cheers-patriotic, and most importantly - WONDERFUL. Tell me, for example, how are you going to carry out a six-month nuclear charge schedule? Pull out these dozens of charges, carry out routine maintenance with them (probably on a super-ship) and set them again?

    Well top secret RAVE called "STATUS-6" - This is a balm, not otherwise. Just no one wants to look at this stuffing (done it must be said masterfully by our intelligence services) not through pink glasses. There are so many stretches and absurdities in everything that reluctance is to disassemble.

    Well, how can all this not be connected to the "Perimeter". Without even knowing how it actually works ... Well, you connect these "STATUSES" to the "Perimeter", and what next ??
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 June 2016 09: 18
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    The essence of capitalism is to create what you can sell and make a profit. This is in their blood, at the subconscious level. And they are used to comfort. Even in the current state of affairs, we have a different mentality. We just have different brains. And from here different approaches to the creation of all ultramodern weapons. Therefore, we will surpass them.
    You can scream as much as you like about this, but it will be so. hi
  31. keeper03
    keeper03 17 June 2016 11: 44
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    When these idiots will understand that on any bolt we always have a nut !!!
  32. gridasov
    gridasov 17 June 2016 23: 49
    +1
    By and large, the achievement of stable and controlled flight processes at high-potential speeds is not only the ability to fly in the Earth's atmosphere, but also the ability to fly in the most diverse in dimensional density and composition of the "atmosphere" of any planet. This is the possibility of flight at higher speeds in the medium of the inverse pressure vector of the space medium. This in itself means an incredible breakthrough in the achievements of mankind. And as they say, that simple banal reasoning cannot describe fundamental physical processes - this requires a mind of a different state and capabilities.