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Turchinov said that in Ukraine, Soviet-made ammunition volumes are running out

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The secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Turchinov, during an inspection of the holding company Artyom in Kiev, said that Soviet-made ammunition was running out in Ukraine. At the same time, Turchinov could not resist another batch of shrill criticism of the past authorities of Ukraine on this issue. According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, earlier in Ukraine, "the authorities thoughtlessly disposed of ammunition, without thinking about what Ukraine will have to fight."

Turchinov said that due to the almost complete absence of Soviet-made ammunition in warehouses, Ukrainian enterprises should urgently launch the production of similar ammunition in their own capacities. According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Ukraine today has no other options.

What does “no” mean? But what about statements on the need to switch to NATO standards? After all, the main NATO functionaries have long identified Ukraine as a state in which it will be possible to send used weapons trash. And the fact that Soviet-made ammunition is running out in Ukraine is warming the souls of the representatives of the North Atlantic Alliance, because now Kiev will obviously be asked to intensify the purchase of NATO military equipment and NATO ammunition. And for Kiev, this will definitely become a proposal that the Maidan authorities of the country will not be able to refuse ...

Turchinov's statement about the need to set up the production of ammunition in the right quantities at Ukrainian enterprises leads press office NSDC:



From Turchinov's statement:
About 800 Ukrainian enterprises of various profiles can be involved in the process of manufacturing ammunition - this includes chemical production, engineering, and many other related enterprises and structures.
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  1. CORNET
    CORNET 16 June 2016 07: 20
    +48
    Smartly they steal there ... (there were reserves for two world wars ..))))
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 16 June 2016 07: 21
      +29

      Pick stones from pavements now laughing
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 16 June 2016 07: 26
        +35
        If we take into account that in Ukraine there is not a single plant for the production of ammunition (the Lugansk cartridge does not count - it is in the LPR), then the situation for Kiev really looks sour. Ukrainians are not able to quickly establish their own production, there are no pennies to buy NATO military equipment and ammunition.
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 June 2016 07: 56
          +24
          The USA will deliver on loan what is to be disposed of.
          1. theadenter
            theadenter 16 June 2016 08: 14
            +12
            In the United States, this is already at the genetic level, probably: there is no money — build a war with the wrong hands, destabilize the world ... And collect money from a flurry of orders for weapons.
            This is already a run-in business.
          2. okunevich_rv
            okunevich_rv 16 June 2016 08: 58
            +6
            Poland is the main candidate for supplies.
            1. Sharapov
              Sharapov 16 June 2016 09: 07
              +6
              I agree that they are already moving to the NATO standard, the remains of Soviet ammunition will be sold to Khokhlov.
              1. Krasniy_lis
                Krasniy_lis 16 June 2016 10: 22
                +3
                Quote: Sharapov
                remnants of Soviet ammunition

                so there is almost nothing left. It has long been disposed of or sold.
                Quote: Sharapov
                Khokhlam will be sold

                to buy something unnecessary, you must first sell something unnecessary, but they have no money.
                1. potroshenko
                  potroshenko 16 June 2016 14: 28
                  0
                  Quote: Krasniy_lis
                  to buy something unnecessary, you must first sell something unnecessary, but they have no money.

                  The Pentagon allocates 500 million from the budget, 250 immediately and 250 then, if Obama does not veto the budget. Ukraine has long had plans to build a cartridge factory, possibly under 5,56. I wonder how much money it will take.
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit 19 June 2016 04: 43
                    0
                    There would be a plant, and what caliber to produce, it makes no difference. But in Ukraine, ten old factories are more likely to be closed than one new is built. And by the way, for any ammunition, you need a weapon. A NATO standard rifle in Ukraine has not yet been observed.
          3. okunevich_rv
            okunevich_rv 16 June 2016 08: 58
            +1
            Poland is the main candidate for supplies.
          4. Imperialkolorad
            Imperialkolorad 16 June 2016 09: 36
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            The USA will deliver on loan what is to be disposed of.

            They have grenades of a different system. So also the weapon itself will have to be supplied.
          5. Stalker.1977
            Stalker.1977 16 June 2016 09: 42
            +1
            Well Turchinova listen ...., do not respect yourself, but in fact in parallel what they have and where it ended.
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          7. Normal ok
            Normal ok 16 June 2016 10: 57
            0
            Quote: cniza
            The USA will deliver on loan what is to be disposed of.

            American ammunition is absolutely not suitable for Soviet artillery systems. Namely, these are exploited by Ukraine.
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        3. theadenter
          theadenter 16 June 2016 08: 00
          +10
          Everything is as simple as that - again, one hundred skins will be removed from the people.
          "Lishbynebyylomaidanatri" will remain silent in a rag. For the time being.
        4. Egoza
          Egoza 16 June 2016 08: 08
          +18
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Ukrainians are not able to quickly establish their own production, there are no pennies to buy NATO military equipment and ammunition.

          Shaw means "buy"? We must give us a mustache for free! Moreover, we protect "them" from Russia!
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 16 June 2016 08: 28
            +4
            Quote: Egoza
            Shaw means "buy"? We must give us a mustache for free! Moreover, we protect "them" from Russia!

            It would be more rational for the Baltic states to throw their Soviet heritage to Ukraine, and throw off picking up old NATO rubbish from European countries, and to European countries to buy new ones. Updating armaments, and there is no need to dispose of anything, the trash is in the person of Ukraine.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 16 June 2016 08: 52
              +3
              Quote: Alexej
              It would be more rational for the Baltic states to throw their Soviet heritage to Ukraine, and throw off picking up old NATO rubbish from European countries, and to European countries to buy new ones. Updating armaments, and there is no need to dispose of anything, the trash is in the person of Ukraine.

              Yatsenyuk Maxim machine gun with the right to wear !!! wassat loaded up. To whom else - it seems a lot, but it is still unknown. However, dashing disappears, let's take it, anyway "bite".
            2. Lelek
              Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 04
              +1
              Quote: Alexej
              It would be more rational for the Baltic states to throw their Soviet legacy into Ukraine, and throwing off to collect the old NATO rubbish from the countries of Europe, and to the countries of Europe to buy a new one.


              And not "zapadlo" give advice to the Crazy enemy? By the way, what you propose has long been mastered by the Kiev banderlog and is supplied to them through Lithuania, Poland and Turkey. After all, it is not for nothing that the "Christ-man" Waltzman shuttles to these countries and slobber over the boots and shoes of their leaders. yes
          2. Altona
            Altona 16 June 2016 10: 24
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            Shaw means "buy"? We must give us a mustache for free! Moreover, we protect "them" from Russia!

            -----------------
            Having bought, not bought, but actually declared the slogan "guns instead of butter".
        5. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 29
          +20
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Given that in Ukraine there is not a single plant for the production of ammunition

          This is a patriotic statement for the crutchheads.
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          situation for Kiev really looks sour

          They will be delivered by our partners from NATO
          Another thing, if you believe the words of the same Turchinov, separatists fired at Donetsk. At the same time, shells end at Kiev.
          Template break
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 09
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Another thing, if you believe the words of the same Turchinov, separatists fired at Donetsk. At the same time, shells end at Kiev.


            hiSanya.
            Properly noticed, respect.
        6. WKS
          WKS 16 June 2016 09: 52
          +4
          Well damn give these ukrovoyaki! The ammunition of the three border military districts of the USSR was shot in vain. There were so many things there, enough to conquer all of Europe with Britain and Iceland, as well as North Africa and the Middle East. Yes, Joseph Vissarionovich would be very unhappy.
        7. WKS
          WKS 16 June 2016 09: 55
          0
          Joke. In Ukraine, ammunition ran out.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 16 June 2016 10: 43
            +3
            Quote: wks
            Joke. In Ukraine, ammunition ran out.

            Of course, a joke. And they kind of put pressure on pity. As it turned out, Ukrainians need Russians to have weapons and ammunition. There will still be roofing felts. I wrote in the winter that even in a positional war the army devours a huge amount of ammunition, food, fuel ... and etc. Well, the Poles also do not have bottomless reserves. Without their production, only limited partisan actions can be conducted. Yes and even at the level of pervert enthusiasts.
        8. revnagan
          revnagan 16 June 2016 10: 49
          0
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Ukrainians are not able to quickly establish their own production

          Blessed are those who believe ... There is gunpowder, there is a means of initiation (primer), there is a question in the bullet casings ... You can buy equipment and get all the components of the domestic production, but you can "cut the dough" on the purchase of imported ammunition .And you can combine business with pleasure. The states are nat, there are simply clans of oligarchs. What they consider the best option, it will be.
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        11. begemot20091
          begemot20091 16 June 2016 15: 39
          +1
          You are mistaken, dear. and in shostka? gunpowder, capsule, NIIHP - is engaged in expelling charges for cluster munitions and gunpowder, and the director is a graduate of TSU FTF
        12. begemot20091
          begemot20091 16 June 2016 17: 34
          0
          You are mistaken, dear. and in shostka? gunpowder, capsule, NIIHP - is engaged in expelling charges for cluster munitions and gunpowder, and the director is a graduate of TSU FTF
        13. Vasek Trubachev
          Vasek Trubachev 17 June 2016 09: 05
          0
          But they have cyborgs, all that remains is to create a time machine so that the "enemy" of Yanukovych can be "economized" on Soviet reserves.
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 16 June 2016 07: 50
        +6
        What does no mean? But what about the statements about the need to move to NATO standards?

        That's how..
        “Military-technical cooperation with our strategic partners on the acquisition of lethal weapons has been artificially blocked, and again we have to rely on our own strength,” said Turchinov.

        Squares however! request

        But still peremogi post ...
        In the Verkhovna Rada, Galician deputies staged a scuffle with people's deputies from the Opposition Bloc because of criticism of Lviv Mayor Andriy Sadovy. This happened during the presence in the hall of the delegation from the Netherlands.
        Rada is tearing to shreds all the European standards ... for the good of the Dutch ... well done ... repeat

        Oleg Voloshin, an international political analyst, responded to the scandal in the parliamentary hall on his blog.

        “Well, Parubiy and the Nazi bastard ... And is it such a damn democracy? Nor respect for the regulations, nor even the presence in the Parliament of the delegation of the Parliament of the Netherlands. A donut hole this power will receive, not support the Association Agreement in The Hague "- wrote Voloshin.
        yes
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 30
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          .to the Dutch fun ... well done ...

          The task was to amuse the guests, the task was completed!
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 16 June 2016 08: 35
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The task was to amuse the guests, the task was completed!

            And in truth, what about the (Maidan) market and without buffoons ... yes
            Buffoons. They - in the bazaars, at the princes' feasts, At the games they set the tone, Playing the harp, bagpipes, beeps, At the fairs people amused.

            Greetings, Alexander! hi
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 09: 10
              +2
              Quote: Sid.74
              Greetings, Alexander!

              Zhenya is healthy hi There is only one state left in the world, where for the past 25 years, deputies have beaten each other's faces.
              I propose to add this to the Guinness Book of Records.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 18
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          Well Parubiy and the Nazi bastard ...


          Well, what are the "godfathers" -deb.i.l., such is the country as a whole. Apart from disgust - no other emotions. fool
      3. The black
        The black 16 June 2016 08: 20
        +6
        Such a quantity of ammunition in two years against the inhabitants of Donbass could only be used by a demon. Although ... the authorities are possessed. They could.
      4. Felix99
        Felix99 16 June 2016 08: 56
        +1
        This is the training of athletes to the Olympic Games.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 16 June 2016 09: 22
          0
          Quote: Felix99
          This is the training of athletes to the Olympic Games.

          They would already be in time to train to sprint, to run on average distances, to run on long distances, including to run on 3000 m with obstacles. bully
      5. Vasek Trubachev
        Vasek Trubachev 17 June 2016 09: 01
        0
        This is zrada ... another belay
    2. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 16 June 2016 07: 30
      +10
      Quote: CORNET
      ... there were reserves for two world wars ..))))

      This is how everything in Donbass was used during the "Minsk truce" - it began in 2014 and continues to this day.
      So Ukraine honors the truce that all stocks of ammunition for the two world wars released on the inhabitants of Donbass.
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 16 June 2016 07: 44
        +5
        Quote: olimpiada15
        Quote: CORNET
        ... there were reserves for two world wars ..))))

        This is how everything in Donbass was used during the "Minsk truce" - it began in 2014 and continues to this day.
        So Ukraine honors the truce that all stocks of ammunition for the two world wars released on the inhabitants of Donbass.

        I doubt it ... In Ukraine, over the years, millionaires (bucks) have doubled ... One Yaytsenyukh, which is worth, has disappeared and is now laughing abroad! In the Donbass, they copied everything! They fire at peaceful cities and wrote off a couple of echelons ... This is theft and the destruction of the country ... Horror!
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 16 June 2016 08: 15
        +2
        Quote: olimpiada15
        So Ukraine honors the truce that all stocks of ammunition for the two world wars released on the inhabitants of Donbass.

        The Donetsk residents are not in debt either ...

        For five months, medical institutions in Kiev took 3,5 thousands of wounded from the Donbass
        She also reported that in five months, Kiev medical facilities had taken 3,5 thousand wounded fighters from the ATO zone, including 2,5 thousand from the Donetsk region and 1,5 thousand from the Luhansk region. Http://www.politnavigator.net/za-pyat-mesyacev- meduchrezhdeni
        ya-kieva-prinyali-35-tysyach-ranenykh-iz-donbassa.html

        Approximately 700 people per month ... and this in the institutes of neurosurgery and orthopedics ... what
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 31
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          About 700 people a month ... and this to the institutes of neurosurgery and orthopedics

          And how many took to the asylum?
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 25
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          About 700 people a month ..


          Natural selection is all Darwin's. In this situation, about 20 million with brains should remain in the "very square". yes
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 16 June 2016 07: 42
      +15
      Quote: CORNET
      Smartly they steal there ... (there were reserves for two world wars ..))))

      Fast all of Africa with their ammunition littered lol
      The only cartridge factory remained in Lugansk. During the battles of 2014-2015, there were attempts, if not to capture it, to destroy it so that LDNR would not get it.
      Themselves, they tried to purchase equipment and launch new production. It came to the signing of a contract with the French. Further, the story is dark, or the rollback was "asked", or the equipment of the French did not fit the ukrospets. In general, they ate up the remnants of the USSR and what the Luhansk residents had supplied before 2014 request
      With artillery ammunition the same story. Production of shells used in Ukraine to all types of artilleryas such request
    4. bronik
      bronik 16 June 2016 07: 47
      +21
      I propose, in the light of the struggle with everything Soviet, to undermine the remaining stocks directly in warehouses.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 16 June 2016 07: 51
        +12
        Quote: bronik
        I propose, in the light of the struggle with everything Soviet, to undermine the remaining stocks directly in warehouses.

        Colleague, you realized late with this advice. There and without any wars, warehouses took off. Not without crime, for sure, most likely part of it went "to the left", and part of it suddenly burned down. And ends in water. But fact is fact request
        1. jjj
          jjj 16 June 2016 08: 09
          +1
          Traces of some deliveries found in IH
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 16 June 2016 08: 13
        +2
        Quote: bronik
        I propose, in the light of the struggle with everything Soviet, to undermine the remaining stocks directly in warehouses.

        And the concern "Artem" should be urgently liquidated, or renamed ... otherwise, as long as it remains named in honor of the legendary leader of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, revolutionary Artem, no progress or production can be organized there. tongue
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 16 June 2016 13: 18
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: bronik
          I propose, in the light of the struggle with everything Soviet, to undermine the remaining stocks directly in warehouses.

          And the concern "Artem" should be urgently liquidated, or renamed ... otherwise, as long as it remains named in honor of the legendary leader of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, revolutionary Artem, no progress or production can be organized there. tongue

          Especially if you recall that the son of Comrade Artem was raised by Stalin in his family. laughing Zrada zradnaya! fellow
    5. andj61
      andj61 16 June 2016 08: 05
      +5
      Quote: CORNET
      Smartly they steal there ... (there were reserves for two world wars ..))))

      Part sold-stolen over 25 years of independence, partly exploded along with warehouses to hide theft, and something in the Donbass over the past years has been spent or sold stolen again, but written off for military operations. And in the case of constant operation of artillery, especially reactive, ammunition is not even consumed by wagons - by trains ...
    6. SveTok
      SveTok 16 June 2016 08: 05
      +5
      It's time to switch to a trench tool, because it is not in vain that Lyashko will not part with the pitchfork.
    7. Baloo
      Baloo 16 June 2016 08: 06
      +4
      Soon the chocolate will go again to beg for help against the aggressor. There is much more to eastern Europe.
    8. Maksus
      Maksus 16 June 2016 09: 00
      +6
      And 25 years of independence where to put? Crest weapons flooded all of Africa and half of the Middle East.
    9. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 16 June 2016 12: 38
      +2
      well, they sold it to the former Papuans for 23 years, to all kinds of extremists and terrorists, to terrorists and sold militias to a small army, to steal not to build, as they say, on the other hand, in Donetsk, they may need to save less on cities for a trip to Kiev.
    10. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 June 2016 14: 17
      +2
      They also shockly disposed of ammunition.

      Moreover, the Bloody Pastor, who said that
      earlier in Ukraine, "the authorities thoughtlessly disposed of ammunition, not thinking that Ukraine would have to fight."
      doesn’t seem to know who he’s rolling the barrel at. smile

      Here is a photograph of the curator of the US ammunition disposal program during a visit to Donetsk KZHI. Then he was still a senator ...
    11. alexmach
      alexmach 16 June 2016 22: 45
      0
      Something probably did not survive storage in warehouses, especially in the open.
      regularly something exploded
      Turchinov is a person who can say anything in general.
  2. Siberian
    Siberian 16 June 2016 07: 21
    +20
    So you, due to the achievements of the creature scoop, have lived up to now.
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 16 June 2016 07: 36
      +13
      Why they lived, they continue to live like this, all industry, factories, stations, everything was created by the USSR. And about "scoop", if you use such terminology, then please do not forget the quotes.
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 16 June 2016 07: 55
        +2
        Lived until recent events, and now survive. They have a struggle with everything Soviet, everything that can be ruined or ruined. And about quotes, you're right, I overlooked.
  3. Professor
    Professor 16 June 2016 07: 22
    .
    I don’t understand, in Ukraine ammunition is running out, and in the rear Donbass there is an abundance of them. "Militias" do them on their knees? request
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 16 June 2016 07: 26
      +20
      Quote: Professor
      in Ukraine ammunition is running out


      that is precisely why in the Donbass there are plenty of them laughing
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 16 June 2016 07: 26
      +9
      About 800 Ukrainian enterprises of various profiles can be involved in the production of ammunition

      Yes, and a lot is already being done. laughing
    3. inkass_98
      inkass_98 16 June 2016 07: 27
      +12
      The cartridge plant, for example, remained in Lugansk. It even works for export. By the way, he bought bullets for pneumatics, without looking at the manufacturer, chose cheaper (all the same, children at the dacha shoot at banks), so it turned out - Lugansk. No worse than Spanish, but at a price two to three times cheaper.
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 June 2016 07: 52
      +12
      Don't be sneering, colleague. Everyone understands everything, but why talk about it? Do you support dill? Or just "for justice"? Or should I start to sympathize that the Gaza Strip has run out of ingredients for assembling the Kasams?
      Not at all. I like your state, its army and the courage of the people, its unbending character. Let's imagine for a second that Donbass is Israel of the 48th. In the context of Pan-Arab intervention. After all, there was really a blockade on the supply of weapons. And what excess blood did it turn into? Yes, fought off, well done. So, get up against ukrofashisty with hunting rifles?
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 June 2016 08: 00
        .
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Everyone understands everything, but why talk about it?

        Are you proposing to continue to lie and pretend that there are "militias" and ammunition they make themselves? We must call things by their proper names.

        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Do you support dill?

        I am for tomatoes.

        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Or should I start to sympathize that the Gaza Strip has run out of ingredients for assembling the Kasams?

        Your right.

        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        I like your state, its army and the courage of the people, its unbending character.

        And to me yours. This, however, is not about yours and not about my state, but about Ukraine.

        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Let's imagine for a second that Donbass is Israel of the 48th.

        No, we can’t imagine. Israel fought for its independence, and did not trade coal with the Arabs, and Jews went to fight for Israel, and did not flee to neighboring countries with outstretched hands pleading for refugee status.
        An article about ending ammunition in Ukraine. Let's stay in the subject.
        1. andj61
          andj61 16 June 2016 08: 26
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          Are you proposing to continue to lie and pretend that there are "militias" and ammunition they make themselves? We must call things by their proper names.

          Well, call on health! hi
          Do you think this will change anything? wink
          It's like in Khazanov's miniature about a parrot. "No meat is reported to the tiger!" - and this is so everyone knows. repeat
          1. Professor
            Professor 16 June 2016 09: 49
            -7
            Quote: andj61
            Do you think this will change anything?

            I believe that will change. It is always easy and pleasant to tell the truth.

            Quote: andj61
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Jews who care about Ukraine. A touching picture. Even a tear breaks through

            It turns out I am commented on by His Majesty hiding in the emergency. What an honor. wassat

            Quote: BLOND
            When the conflict escalated in Israel, apartments in Odessa and Kiev rose in price ...

            Tales of a thousand and one nights.

            Quote: Observer 33
            And all this .. that is at war with Donbass, will collect guts from the burning earth, as long as you like, until it is removed from the Russian lands.

            I was always touched by the sofa defenders of the Russian lands. Why are you a nice person not in the Donbass with a gun? wink

            Quote: Gray Brother
            Shabak does not allow you to write the word militia without quotes? Afraid of what will be written down as agents of Putin?

            I am a free man in a free country. I am writing as I see fit.

            Quote: Observer 33
            If you ask a lot of unnecessary questions, Hezbollah and Hamas will begin to do them on their knees ...

            Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass. They have long had your weapon. Did it help them? bully
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 16 June 2016 10: 24
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              I am a free man in a free country. I am writing as I see fit.

              Freedom country? Naive Jewish young man. smile
              https://soundcloud.com/ravid-gor/9mlxcjlkluul
              "Prove that you are not Putin's agent." Ravid Gore's interview with Israel Army Radio

              The situation with Ravid Gore, whose activity as the editor of the site Israel 24, attracted the attention of Israeli intelligence services, received media development.
              One of the country's largest media outlets, Army Radio (Israel Defense Forces radio station - Galei IDF), interviewed Ravid.
              Recall that, according to Ravid Gore, he is under pressure from the Israeli counterintelligence SHABAK in order to gain recognition in cooperation with Russian special services and anti-Israeli activities.
              The reason is the journalist’s position in relation to events in Ukraine and an interview with Channel One of Russian TV about threats against the organizers and participants of the Immortal Regiment ’campaign in Israel.
              The beinenson.news portal provides a Hebrew translation of an interview with Ravid Gore of the Israel Army Radio.

              Translation: http://blog.beinenson.news/2016/05/24/ravid-radio-israel/
              1. Professor
                Professor 16 June 2016 12: 04
                +1
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Freedom country?

                Exactly. This radio interview confirms this. Counterintelligence does its job, press its own. Dude continues to maintain his website, travel to Russia, Shabak continues to look after him.
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 16 June 2016 15: 44
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  This radio interview confirms this.

                  This interview confirms only that the IDF does not like the SHABAK and does not miss the chance to put kaku in it.
                  And your underperformance how it worked and works, puts pressure on the media so that, God forbid, your firmware does not fly off, otherwise you (horror) will form your own opinion different from the party line.
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 16 June 2016 10: 27
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              I was always touched by the sofa defenders of the Russian lands. Why are you a nice person not in the Donbass with a gun?

              Where I was, and what I saw, you do not know. And I know for sure that in the eyes it will all be repeated in someone's douche, and you know this. And you can poke a "nice man" to your mother, your wife, your mistress.
              Quote: Professor
              Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass. They have long had your weapon. Did it help them?

              Well, apparently it helped, since your snot is smeared here, about the influence of Russia on these guys. laughing
              1. Professor
                Professor 16 June 2016 11: 09
                0
                Quote: Observer 33
                Where I was, and what I saw, you do not know. And I know for sure that in the eyes it will all be repeated in someone's douche, and you know this. And you can poke a "nice man" to your mother, your wife, your mistress.

                It’s not known who saw what, but it’s known for certain that you are a nice person to never defend the Russian lands in Donbass, but sit on the couch and tap the keys with your fingers.

                Quote: Observer 33
                Well, apparently it helped, since your snot is smeared here, about the influence of Russia on these guys.

                It helped. laughing Today we celebrate ten years of the second Lebanon war. Our northern border has never been so quiet as in these 10 years. But Hizbullah has been breathing smoothly for these 10 years, Nasrallah only occasionally leaves the bunker.
                1. 33 Watcher
                  33 Watcher 16 June 2016 13: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  that YOU are a nice person, you’ve never defended the Russian lands in Donbass, but sit on the couch and tap the keys with your fingers.

                  That's right. Because I had the honor to defend them elsewhere, where I safely lost the ability to tap with the fingers of my left hand, this knock was only with my right. Also lost the ability to fully exploit the left leg. Maybe that's why I was not invited to the Donbass?
                  What else do you know for sure?
                  Quote: Professor
                  Our northern border has never been so quiet as in these 10 years.

                  It’s still not evening ... Look, you didn’t have to tear as if to emigrate backward (you don’t get used to it), but you already wrote some nasty things to people ... winked
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 16 June 2016 13: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    That's right. Because I had the honor to defend them elsewhere, where I safely lost the ability to tap with my fingers on my left hand, this knock was done only on my right. Also lost the ability to fully exploit the left leg.

                    Excuse. Maresyev fought without legs. I know 2 disabled fighting in Tsakhal, one without a hand from birth, the other lost a leg in battle.




                    Quote: Observer 33
                    Maybe that's why I was not invited to the Donbass?

                    Does anyone have to call to defend the Russian land? You have to go to such a thing yourself, at the call of your heart.

                    Quote: Observer 33
                    It’s still not evening ... Look, it wasn’t necessary to tear aside in return emigration (you don’t get used to it), but you already wrote nasty things to people here ..

                    No need to think ahead. Quietly 10 years, wait another 10 years. In that war I did not run anywhere from the draft; I will not run to the next.

                    Quote: Observer 33
                    What else do you know for sure?

                    That all the characters knock on the keys.
                    1. 33 Watcher
                      33 Watcher 16 June 2016 14: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Excuse

                      It would be in front of someone ...
                      Quote: Professor
                      Does anyone have to call to defend the Russian land? You have to go to such a thing yourself, at the call of your heart.

                      laughing An emigrant from the stars of David sang to us ...
                      Quote: Professor
                      That all the characters knock on the keys.

                      I see ...
                      Quote: Professor
                      In that war I did not run anywhere from the draft; I will not run to the next.

                      And the heart does not call? Or land, wrong? Or called, yes, not there? laughing
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 16 June 2016 14: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Observer 33
                        It would be in front of someone ...

                        Before a respected forum audience.

                        Quote: Observer 33
                        An emigrant from the stars of David sang to us ...

                        This emigrant honestly defended the sickle and hammer, and now honestly defends the very star of David. I did not fly away from service under any pretext, and now I do not fly away.

                        Quote: Observer 33
                        And the heart does not call? Or land, wrong? Or called, yes, not there?

                        Defend the Russian land? Not calling. I can defend my own. soldier
                      2. 33 Watcher
                        33 Watcher 16 June 2016 15: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Before a respected forum audience.

                        Only one so far called me as a sofa defender ...
                        What caused me a personal insult.
                        Quote: Professor
                        I can defend my own.

                        God grant. But with such convictions, not sure.
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 16 June 2016 19: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Observer 33
                        Only one so far called me as a sofa defender ...
                        What caused me a personal insult.

                        The last thing I would do is to insult. Nevertheless, real fighters are now at the forefront, but here all are couches.

                        Quote: Observer 33
                        God grant. But with such convictions, not sure.

                        Rest assured. Nowhere to retreat. They will not take us prisoner and we will not become refugees.
                      4. 33 Watcher
                        33 Watcher 16 June 2016 19: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        we will not become refugees.

                        smile How cute.

                        Quote: Professor
                        This emigrant honestly defended the sickle and hammer, and now honestly defends the very star of David.

                        I have a feeling that these are two different people writing laughing
                        Quote: Professor
                        The last thing I would do is to insult.

                        It is one thing to want, another ... A conversation was not asked, in general.
                        Quote: Professor
                        and here are all the sofas.

                        But this is generally superfluous. No.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 35
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          And to me yours. This, however, is not about yours and not about my state, but about Ukraine.

          Jews who care about Ukraine. A touching picture. Even a tear breaks through crying
          Interestingly, he showed the same concern when they bombed Iraq and Yugoslavia?
          1. andj61
            andj61 16 June 2016 08: 44
            -1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Jews who care about Ukraine. A touching picture. Even a tear breaks through

            Prof is not taking care of Ukraine, he is against silence and double standards. Well, there you can constantly repeat to diplomats - they say prove it!
            It’s clear to everyone where the ammunition comes from in LDN, and in Ukraine money ... request
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 09: 14
              +9
              Quote: andj61
              he is against silence and double standards.

              I remember saying that the Americans deliver weapons to Syria. He broke his forehead proving to me that this is not so.
              Quote: andj61
              It’s clear to everyone where the ammunition comes from in LDNR, and in Ukraine it’s money.

              This is not his problem! I do not interfere in the affairs of Israel, because Israel has its own interests at its borders. And he does not care about the interests of Russia, he believes we are a real threat to NATO. What are we putting bases at the borders of NATO. There is no desire to read his posts in one of the recent topics?
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 16 June 2016 09: 15
              +5
              Quote: andj61
              he is against silence and double standards.

              Oh, fuck!? belay laughing
            3. Lelek
              Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 43
              +2
              Quote: andj61
              It’s clear to everyone where the ammunition comes from in LDN, and in Ukraine money ...


              Do not make an open secret out of the "known". Yes, we have helped and will continue to help Novorossiya. And we are proud to do it. Jews in Israel are proud of world Jewry, and we are proud of the RUSSIAN WORLD. Anyone who oppresses Russians (by the way, Jews by nationality) in any other territory will have to deal with Russia. And there is nothing to talk about the mantras of the Kiev and Washington URODOs (scoundrels - in their language) about the unpredictable aggressiveness of the Russians. yes
        3. BLOND
          BLOND 16 June 2016 09: 01
          +7
          Jews went to fight for Israel, and did not flee to neighboring countries with outstretched hands pleading for refugee status


          are you telling us about the Jews ...?

          When the conflict escalated in Israel, apartments in Odessa and Kiev rose in price ...
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        5. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 16 June 2016 09: 10
          +9
          Quote: Professor
          You need to call a spade a spade.

          You are welcome! There are Fascists and Nazis in Ukraine, and there are a lot of them, and those who do not are sympathetic. And all this ... that is at war with the Donbass, will collect guts from the burning earth, as long as necessary, until it gets out of the Russian lands. And where, it's their business, they can go to the gamerope, as they wanted, or they can "Ad Patres".
          Frankly enough?
          1. boris-1230
            boris-1230 16 June 2016 16: 25
            +1
            You are welcome! There are Fascists and Nazis in Ukraine, and there are a lot of them, and whoever is not is sympathetic.

            And then there are unique ones, like Poroshenko - Valtsman! Jewish fascist, or fascist Jew? hi
        6. Serg65
          Serg65 16 June 2016 11: 58
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Israel fought for its independence, and did not trade coal with Arabs

          Oleg, but do not tell me what the fighters of “Jebhat al-Nusra” treat in Israeli hospitals?
          Quote: Professor
          Jews went to fight for Israel, and did not flee to neighboring countries with outstretched hands pleading for refugee status.

          Well, yes, yes, especially Soviet Jewish immigrants settled on Brighton Beach and not in Tel Aviv wink
          1. Professor
            Professor 16 June 2016 12: 24
            -1
            Quote: Serg65
            Oleg, but do not tell me what the fighters of “Jebhat al-Nusra” treat in Israeli hospitals?

            Not hospitals, but hospitals. Not fighters, but all whom the UN soldiers will drag. As you know, we are separated from Syria by a neutral band in which UN observers dominate. Whom they drag that we treat without asking questions. And women and children and bearded. Under international law, we cannot refuse anyone. Two weeks ago, an Mi-8 passed over me to the hospital from Lebanon. I am sure that the delivered patients received medical care. wink

            Quote: Serg65
            Well, yes, yes, especially Soviet Jewish immigrants settled on Brighton Beach and not in Tel Aviv

            Yeah. And tens of thousands of Soviet Jews who arrived at the height of rocket attacks. They generally received gas masks at the airport.
      2. Lyton
        Lyton 16 June 2016 08: 07
        +3
        That's right, we noticed that the professor is so malicious, that he understands everything, our ammunition in the warehouses must also be updated, they cannot lie there forever, they can go bad. hi
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      , and in the rear Donbass they are in abundance. "Militias" them on the knee de

      Thanks to Israel! Deliveries from Israel are established fellow
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 16 June 2016 08: 43
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Professor
        , and in the rear Donbass they are in abundance. "Militias" them on the knee de

        Thanks to Israel! Deliveries from Israel are established fellow

        They delivered to Georgia, now everything will go to Ukraine on credit ... Ukraine fell specifically into the debt hole .. (we are trying to pull it out ..)))) It is useless!
        The essence of the global economy! (simple and specific ..)))))
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 16 June 2016 16: 39
          +1
          The essence of the global economy! (simple and specific ..)))))

          As in an old Soviet joke: “There are two soldiers in the trench — a Russian and a wounded Jew.
          The Jew says: "Ivan, there is no strength to endure, shoot me"; Ivan answers him: "I have no cartridges, I have run out";
          Jew: "so buy from me!" ... hi
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 16 June 2016 12: 52
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Thanks to Israel! Deliveries from Israel are established


        Especially for ultrasound and "drones" for the half-Jew Waltzman. As the saying goes: "It's nothing personal, because money doesn't smell."
    6. Gray brother
      Gray brother 16 June 2016 09: 00
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      ... "The militias"

      Shabak does not allow you to write the word militia without quotes? Afraid of what will be written down as agents of Putin?
    7. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 16 June 2016 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      I don’t understand, in Ukraine ammunition is running out, and in the rear Donbass there is an abundance of them. "Militias" do them on their knees? request

      If you ask a lot of unnecessary questions, Hezbollah and Hamas will begin to do them on their knees ... tongue laughing
      "Clever" You are ours, why didn't you ask Beba Netanhu in Moscow ..? Was he afraid that the tank would not be given back, or what? laughing
    8. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 16 June 2016 10: 30
      0
      Quote: Professor
      rear Donbass them in abundance

      1 help
      2 trophies (I recommend to see how many vidosiki on YouTube are available in Dbel)
      3 so and for what kind of shi ukrovoyaki thump constantly? These are ammunition and thump.
      4 Well, as if only two industries were in Ukraine. In Lugansk and in Donetsk (suddenly).
    9. samoletil18
      samoletil18 16 June 2016 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      I don’t understand, in Ukraine ammunition is running out, and in the rear Donbass there is an abundance of them. "Militias" do them on their knees? request

      You have passed the corrupt Ukrainian leadership just now. Everyone who had the official opportunity to sell ammunition in LDNR already did this, but Turchinov did not have time or LDNR is ready to take nothing for nothing from excess due to dumping from Ukrainian authorities. I decided to throw in resentment.
  4. evil partisan
    evil partisan 16 June 2016 07: 23
    +3
    If this happens, then soon Ukrainian deputies and politicians will have to use as air bombs sad ... Moseichuk, for example what . Imagine: HOW MUCH belay shit formed when it meets the Earth? Sprinkles half a hectare. Boldly yes ...
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 16 June 2016 07: 23
    +18
    In Ukraine, the production of ammunition has been established.
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    2. Igor39
      Igor39 16 June 2016 07: 44
      +14
      This is the same "nuclear" weapon belay
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan 16 June 2016 07: 51
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In Ukraine, the production of ammunition has been established.

      Colleague. Just don’t say that the picture was taken at the Kiev zoo in an aviary with elephants ... sad
      Hello poacher! drinks
      1. sdc_alex
        sdc_alex 16 June 2016 07: 54
        +5
        More likely in the next open-air cage - in Rada. laughing
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 16 June 2016 14: 48
        +1
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        The picture was taken at the Kiev zoo in an aviary with elephants ...

        What are your, dear, intricate fantasies. what
        Hey. drinks
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 16 June 2016 13: 04
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In Ukraine, the production of ammunition has been established.


      Stop fantasizing. Goat-bearded Sam will not let his puppets end the bloodshed due to some lack of ammunition. Boeings are already landing and unloading at night, and the crowing of the uncut pastor is just blah blah for "cutting" the budget item (you want to eat and preferably with caviar under the "Burgundy"). stop
  6. kolkulon
    kolkulon 16 June 2016 07: 24
    +2
    They are embarrassed that the russophobic brothers are tossed to a freebie. Then you can still shove it to the side.
  7. Yak28
    Yak28 16 June 2016 07: 25
    +3
    If the Ukrainian government will spray mud from the mouth towards Russia, then the United States will always help with ammunition, and money, and instructors
  8. Vladimir57
    Vladimir57 16 June 2016 07: 26
    +3
    But they have mastered the slingshots, tires, fireworks on the Maidan quite well. This "good" is full ... laughing
  9. ovod84
    ovod84 16 June 2016 07: 27
    +5
    And something is not visible that they end once the Donbass including Donetsk all the time under fire.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 June 2016 09: 49
      +2
      Yes, in Ukraine, after the collapse of the USSR, huge reserves of ammunition remained - tens of millions of tons of shells and ammunition of all calibers, so Turchy drives.
  10. vasdel
    vasdel 16 June 2016 07: 31
    +2
    "The authorities thoughtlessly disposed of ammunition, not thinking that Ukraine would have to fight."
    The past authorities did not think that they would kill their people, they would need these ammunition.
    1. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 16 June 2016 10: 36
      +2
      Quote: vasdel
      Past authorities did not think

      these authorities are right now in power ...
  11. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 16 June 2016 07: 32
    +3
    Now various Poland and the Maldives will come in handy where there are old non-destructive Soviet reserves, for the sake of the genocide of the Russian population for Ukraine there is everything!
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 June 2016 07: 33
    +2
    Probably Ukraine will have to take advantage of the old Chinese experience of Mao Zedong - the Chinese smelted cast iron in each yard, but the Ukrainians will also start making cartridges in each yard according to the established norm. How it ended in China is known.
  13. 65 Centurion
    65 Centurion 16 June 2016 07: 36
    +3
    I am glad, of course, that the junta has ammunition running out!
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 16 June 2016 07: 45
      +2
      Centurion 65 (1) RU Today, 07:36 AM New
      I am glad, of course, that the junta has ammunition running out!

      Mericatos will drive ukrokakl for slaughter, and without BP.
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 16 June 2016 07: 37
    +3
    if not a fake, then the news is definitely good, the ATO will stop faster
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 16 June 2016 07: 47
      +7
      Unfortunately, stocks remained in the former VD lines (maydaunam and substandard conditions will be delayed), and production is probably possible. sad
      One thing pleases: first, Turchinov demanded nuclear weapons with ICBMs, then air defense / missile defense, now "at least shoot something" - a tendency, however!
    2. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 16 June 2016 07: 47
      +1
      Yes, no, the ATO will not cover up. The show is mast go.
      They’re just trying to get the mericos.
      1. Alekseits
        Alekseits 16 June 2016 09: 02
        +2
        In the light of this pastoral statement, I won’t be surprised if Ukraine’s screaming that Donetsk and other Donbass, due to lack of ammunition, is fired upon, not by them, but militias who organize provocations, shelling themselves.
  15. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 June 2016 07: 39
    +2
    Shaw, the "bloody pastor" is dumb with what to shed people's blood?
  16. ydjin
    ydjin 16 June 2016 07: 39
    +7
    Establish production of your own ammunition? The pastor is clearly stupid like a cork. This production is developed and debugged for years! Exit only spears, bows and slings! So let them form a new look for the Armed Forces, the time of the diggers of the Black Sea and the mound of the Caucasus Mountains! laughing And it would not hurt to help with the "spontaneous detonation" of the remnants of the Soviet BP. am Like they themselves ... laughing
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 16 June 2016 07: 50
      +4
      ydjin (2) RU Today, 07:39 AM New
      Establish production of your own ammunition? The pastor is clearly stupid like a cork. This production is developed and debugged for years!

      Yes, they all posat! They dug up the Black Sea, aircraft construction rises at an unprecedented pace, the navy is about to reach the world’s oceans (you just need to find the commander in chief), ukrokaklovsky rockets will soon plow through space ...! So, the riveting ammunition will begin tomorrow, or in the worst case the day after tomorrow, all 800 enterprises ... D, B!laughing
  17. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 16 June 2016 07: 39
    0
    Turchinov said that due to the almost complete absence of ammunition from SOVIET production in warehouses, Ukrainian enterprises should urgently establish the production of ANALOGUE ammunition at their facilities

    Trupchinov, but what about desovetization? Zrada.
    And where does the SBU look ??????
  18. Sars
    Sars 16 June 2016 07: 42
    +1
    A huge number of Soviet shells are stored on the territory of Transnistria.
    Ukrainians-Baptists are well aware of this.
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 16 June 2016 07: 51
      +1
      Who will give it to them then.
    2. CORNET
      CORNET 16 June 2016 08: 15
      0
      Quote: SarS
      A huge number of Soviet shells are stored on the territory of Transnistria.
      Ukrainians-Baptists are well aware of this.

      So it’s not in vain that their National Battles pulled up there ... They are waiting! Let the horses just stick in ...
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 June 2016 07: 43
    +2
    Divorce. We need Western equipment, respectively, and ammunition for it. They buried and abandoned their own, all sorts of monsters coming out from under local manufacturers, completely sucks. They are preparing public opinion for transferring to NATO standards, only where they get the money is an expensive pleasure.
  20. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 16 June 2016 07: 44
    +7
    I imagined for a second how Hitler in the 43rd broadcasts to the whole world the headquarters shells run out and there will soon be nothing to fight and the Kaiser Wilhelm soldier mustache sold out ..... zrada shorter.
  21. volodya
    volodya 16 June 2016 07: 48
    +5
    Zrada, around zrada.
  22. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 June 2016 07: 50
    +1
    no comments
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 June 2016 08: 36
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      no comments

      Here is a pancake. Henry wanted to buy fellow
  23. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 June 2016 07: 54
    0
    The pastor lies that two fingers ...! laughing
  24. VP
    VP 16 June 2016 07: 56
    +6
    He’s lying. They have enough deposits for a couple more wars.
    Perhaps some types of ammunition end, for example for hail.
    Or maybe he was going to stir up money on the construction of production.
    Or on purchases from different Poles from storage.
    About NATO weapons - nonsense. This will not pull Krajina and there is no practical sense to carry out a radical rearmament during the maintenance of the database. They would have to deal with what is available; under NATO, it’s stupid to retrain and serve for a very long time.
    1. Sars
      Sars 16 June 2016 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: VP
      He’s lying. They have enough deposits for a couple more wars.

      For some calibers, shells began to end last year.
      It is a pity that the site is completely boiled in its juice.
      An official expert would come out from the Moscow Region, give his comments on what Svidomo had, what remained.
      1. VP
        VP 16 June 2016 08: 23
        0
        With individual calibers, the issue is being solved - Poland with Romania and Hungary nearby.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 16 June 2016 11: 27
          0
          Czechs with Slovaks will be more interesting.
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 June 2016 07: 57
    +4
    Now they will beg for stocks from the countries of the former Warsaw Pact. The Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians, in the former Yugoslavia ... NATO calibers will not suit them, well, unless hand grenades laughing APU without ammunition - this is happiness! Finally, they will stop peeling in residential neighborhoods.
    And arranging the production of ammunition is generally not an easy task. Even mortar mines - and explosives, and gunpowder, detonators, capsules? And to take de pennies? IMF stalled something ...
    1. andj61
      andj61 16 June 2016 08: 18
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      APU without ammunition - this is happiness! Finally, they will stop peeling in residential neighborhoods.

      They will have more than enough old stocks for a year, and then they will switch to WWII and post-war weapons - they have huge warehouses there, for example, in Soledar.
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 16 June 2016 08: 27
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      APU without ammunition - this is happiness! Finally, they will stop peeling in residential neighborhoods.


      Yes, if ... They couldn’t shoot so much. There is hope for Hohlak greed that they poured everything into Africa, only who needed so much there? The Moldovan Poles scattered about the gutters, they don’t. But with Batska more closely, this one can throw, he will become an ally from him.
  26. solovey
    solovey 16 June 2016 08: 05
    +1
    The freebie is over !!!
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 16 June 2016 08: 23
      0
      Quote: solovey
      The freebie is over !!!

      Soviet yes! And he kakbe boldly hints at the Russian headquarters again on the back of Europe and we need help to sip the NATO budget. After all, they, the Great Ukrainians will take the first blow on themselves, while there the bear drives the polygons from the Baltics, they will repel the nuclear strike ..... here I am writing and I understand that complete nonsense from a fucked hangover, and the torch seriously declares responsibly))) )
  27. Denis DV
    Denis DV 16 June 2016 08: 13
    0
    about 800 Ukrainian enterprises of various profiles can be involved

    Maybe 100500 or 404? laughing
  28. valent45
    valent45 16 June 2016 08: 18
    +1
    Another concern for ukrov was revealed - lack of shells. Quite a problem! Especially with money.
  29. BOB044
    BOB044 16 June 2016 08: 25
    +1

    Turchinov said that in Ukraine, Soviet-made ammunition volumes are running out
    I can advise only one thing. Leave yourself one cartridge so that there would be an opportunity to shoot himself. Otherwise, the people will shove with the shovels that the great Ukrainians dug up the Black Sea. hi
  30. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 16 June 2016 08: 43
    +1
    "About 800 Ukrainian enterprises of various profiles can be involved in the process of producing ammunition - both chemical production and mechanical engineering,"

    Well, where are you Mr. Turchinov tsvet.met. are you going to take? As ...?
    Your "patriots" say that even recyclable materials, and - that, everything went to the Turks ... Will you buy back? laughing
  31. qwert111
    qwert111 16 June 2016 08: 43
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    I don’t understand, in Ukraine ammunition is running out, and in the rear Donbass there is an abundance of them. "Militias" do them on their knees? request


    Let me remind you that the gentlemen from Kiev are carrying out decommunization and desovetization at a tremendous pace, that is, they destroyed the ammunition as a legacy of the Soviet past. But in the Donbass, such events are not held, the guys take care of the legacy, so that Bandera’s evil would not be sent to the other world and of course the militia wouldn’t do ammunition on their knees, but they would do it through the knee of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. But Turchinov does not need to worry at all, he recently shouted that they had invented a rocket capable of flying to Chelyabinsk laughing
  32. KRIG55
    KRIG55 16 June 2016 08: 44
    0
    Tomorrow Russia will start asking for a discount ...
  33. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 June 2016 08: 46
    +1
    American landing has landed in Ukraine
  34. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 June 2016 08: 47
    +1
    American instructors teach Ukrainian military
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 16 June 2016 08: 53
      +1
      there are no yanks
  35. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 June 2016 08: 55
    +1
    They are not there US senators
  36. Alex ..
    Alex .. 16 June 2016 08: 56
    0
    Chu ... There is zbroya smile
  37. NACC
    NACC 16 June 2016 08: 56
    +1
    Quickly arrange the release of ammunition does not work. This is not a confectionery.
  38. Alexander War
    Alexander War 16 June 2016 08: 57
    +1
    all ammunition in the exercises shot
    1. Onegin
      Onegin 16 June 2016 10: 33
      0
      Eka not seen, Israeli border guards have been training Ukrainian for half a year
      while militias from Israel are fighting in LDN
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  39. Vladimir
    Vladimir 16 June 2016 08: 59
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    "Militias" do them on their knees?


    Why on the knee, they buy them in the "Voentorg" with hard earned money, and in general you never know where you can buy cartridges, even in the Kiev metro what problems.
  40. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 16 June 2016 09: 03
    +2
    Establishing the production of ammunition is like flying into space. It's easier to make a weapon chambered than vice versa. But under Yanukovych and Yushchenko, warehouses near Zaporozhye were regularly staged with “fireworks”.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 June 2016 09: 55
      0
      One of the American companies last year signed a contract with Ukraine for the construction of an enterprise for the production of ammunition.
  41. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 June 2016 09: 07
    +2
    Now to declare martial law, put cots in factories and make them work around the clock. Do not forget to hang the slogan "Outskirts above the mustache." And there is no need to pay a salary, let them work for a stew. The only problem is where to take metal for ammunition and for everything else. It seems that the Kursk deposits are not observed.
  42. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 June 2016 09: 21
    +1
    Well, I don’t think that everything is just so bad.
    Some calibers may have to be removed from the battle,
    but especially this will not affect the war.
    And the Warsaw Pact countries will definitely help.
  43. Taygerus
    Taygerus 16 June 2016 09: 23
    0
    cores gnaw out of granite
  44. vnord
    vnord 16 June 2016 09: 26
    +1
    In the former GDR, a factory built by the USSR for our calibers works. So, they put the cartridges for them, they just started preparing the ground in advance: there is no money and no cartridges.
  45. Vladimir
    Vladimir 16 June 2016 09: 27
    +1
    Turchinov and others like him in the pursuit of the Deriban forgot that cartridges sometimes tend to end.
  46. CORNET
    CORNET 16 June 2016 09: 28
    +2
    I wonder why the "professor" so cheered up this article ....? bully
  47. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 16 June 2016 09: 34
    +6
    Ukraine was pretty shitty to Russia by simply outrageous dumping, especially in the sector of "regular buyers" of Soviet weapons - selling off the stocks of equipment inherited from the USSR at bargain prices. Historically, a huge amount of weapons was stored on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. This is the reserve of the first wave for the Western Group of Forces, this is the Kiev Military District, these are the reserve warehouses where everything removed from service was sent, but not sent for melting. And of course, warehouses for humanitarian aid to various cannibals "fighting capitalism." At the time of the collapse of the USSR, these warehouses in total had almost half of all aviation, tank forces and artillery of the Union. Something was saved and taken away (part of the "new" property taken out a little earlier by the ZGV). Something was promptly transferred to the Russian bases in Crimea. But the bulk remained to be plundered by the Raguli.
    All that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is now capable of is overhauling tanks from storage, plus partial modernization of unnecessary armored vehicles supplied by NATO. All're coming out "handicrafts on the knee" in real life turn out to be useless rubbish, unable to overcome even elementary obstacles, such as this armored car "KrAZ Cougar" (Cougar), which was so honored by PARAShenko.

    As they say feel the difference;


    The same applies to the production of tanks in Kharkov, where there are neither people nor equipment. They did not cope with the Thai contract, despite the impressive advance. Let neither themselves nor the people deceive. Tank replenishment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the future - exclusively scrapped from the rust scrap metal from the warehouses, plus junk from the master's shoulder from the "brotherly peoples".
    HZTM did not pay wages for last year. The adjacent companies are closed by dozens of enterprises due to a multiple increase in the price of gas and electricity.
    Explosives for KAZ were produced in Donetsk, gunpowder and explosives for warhead artillery were produced in the Luhansk region, and optics were made in the Crimea, FOMZ.
    Now're coming out, the military-industrial complex finally flunked the Thai contract, from September 1, 2011, i.e. from the moment of its signing, only 10 cars were delivered and that's it, adyu ... After that, the poor Thais decided to buy Chinese cars. Only the lazy did not write about the "majestic peremogu" with the delivery of the BTR-4 to Iraq. True, the ukroids themselves, including on the site foaming at the mouth, argued that the reversal was close and these were just empty slander of Russian competitors, and the photos of cracks on the armor were photoshop, but time put everything in its place. When testing the captured BTR-4 in Arzamas and Bronnitsy, only the lazy one did not spit and did not swear from this pepelatsa, I will not say anything about the quality of the armor, not only is it cracked, it also crumbles.
    So it remains only for small things to crap out from under the tishka, because they are not capable of anything else: you don’t understand how to grow your hands from that place ...
    Ukraine has not died yet, but it has already given the smell ...
  48. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 16 June 2016 09: 56
    +1
    To establish the production of ammunition, huge money is needed, which Ukraine does not have.
  49. Bramb
    Bramb 16 June 2016 10: 05
    +1
    How do they end ?! They don’t shoot: they themselves recently said that only separatists shoot.
    Constantly lying - refute yourself!

    In general: they left ammunition there for World War II and another half. There were so many vehicles to capture the whole of Europe in a month with a guarantee of three times! where did everything go?
    Unsustainable nation! It ends with everything that the Russians (Soviet) did to them - and that’s it! The state is falling apart, the war, less and less work, millions are fleeing from under-state to earn money wherever they look ...
  50. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 16 June 2016 10: 50
    +1
    After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine received huge reserves of missiles and artillery ammunition.
    The lion's share of arsenals that were located in the Warsaw Pact countries was transferred to its territory.
    "All the arsenals and ammunition of the Soviet group of forces in East Germany ended up in Ukraine, it is stuffed incredibly with them," military expert Valentin Badrak told the Ukrainian Air Force.
    According to him, the approximate stock of ammunition in 2008 year amounted to 1,5 million tons.
    For informational reference - one round for the "Grad" system weighs about 100 kilograms, and the usual 82-mm mine - just over three kilograms.
    Back in 2005, the Razumkov Center conducted a separate study on the volume of ammunition in Ukraine, and then almost 2,5 million tons were stockpiled.
    Although the condition of most of the shells was already deplorable.
    The average ammunition technical life is about 12 years, and the maximum is 35 years.
    "The last deliveries of new ammunition date back to 1989-1990, and almost no replenishment and renewal were carried out," the Razumkov center said in a report almost ten years ago.
    In the 2000's in Ukraine there was no problem with shells, but with recycling - yes. Old stocks nearly in the middle of the last century spontaneously exploded near Novobogdanovka, Artemovsk and Lozova.
    A large number of ammunition was stored in unsuitable premises and even in open areas, and therefore their condition is even worse than the regulation provides.
    "Ukraine has significant stocks of ammunition. The term of use has mostly expired, but, taking into account the requirements of the war, such shells allow artillerymen to carry out tasks," military expert Sergei Zgurets told the Ukrainian Air Force.
    “I don’t presume to say how many shells were used, but I don’t think that there may be a problem and there will be nothing to shoot,” Badrak added. Read more here:

    http://zik.ua/ru/zmi/bbc/2015/03/05/150305_ru_s_artillery_ammunition_supply_6140