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Why the operation against the militants in Aktobe did not bring results

The security forces of Kazakhstan carried out a special operation within a week after the June 5 bandit sortie in Aktobe. According to official representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Security Committee of the republic, all participants in the attack on two armory store and the military unit of the National Guard have already been established and measures are being taken to arrest them.

On Friday, June 10 was found shelter, where militants were hiding from law enforcement. During the assault, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan, four terrorists and one accomplice were killed.

“A day after the attack on Aktobe, the National Security Committee and the Prosecutor’s Office of Kazakhstan detained several people who allegedly planned a coup d’état”
A few days before, the media in Kazakhstan and Russia almost every hour reported on the seizure or liquidation of another militant. True, no one was killed or arrested. If we compile information from the media, the security forces detained or eliminated at least two dozen terrorists, although 15 people took part in the attack itself. But on Wednesday, the Kazakh special services stopped sending out triumphant reports, limiting themselves to on-duty unsubscribing: "The operation continues."

Meanwhile, in the middle of the week, a certain “Army of the Liberation of Kazakhstan” claimed responsibility for the attack, spreading the statement that it was “the first battle of supporters of the democratic development of Kazakhstan against the dictatorship of the Nazarbayev clique”. True, law enforcement officials denied the report, in turn stating that the raid on Aktobe was carried out by former militants of the “Islamic state” banned in Russia, recently returned to Kazakhstan.

Ghost Hunt


So what happened in Aktobe and how effective is the counterterrorist operation, to which, besides the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the forces of the National Security Committee and the Ministry of Defense of the Republic are now involved?

Special AmateursAs is known, after the attack on the operational regiment of the National Guard, the militants left the territory of the military unit, after which there was no reliable information about what they were doing.

According to reports, the detachment was divided into several groups, which, carrying away the carbines and rifles captured in the hunting stores, tried to leave the city. The injured attackers allegedly hid in the previously prepared apartments in Aktobe and its suburbs.

Meanwhile, the placement of roadblocks on all entry / exit routes from the city took almost a day from the Kazakh law enforcement officers. At the same time, without even properly creating security rings, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the National Guard and the KNB began conducting targeted checks.

On Friday, the search for militants who remained in the city was crowned with success. They were found in an apartment where an accomplice hid them. The fighters of the Kazakh special forces went on an assault, the video of which became available to the public after some time.

To comment on the assault that took place, “Military-Industrial Courier” asked the current employee of the Russian special forces, who have experience of similar operations.

“There was an impression that the fighters were going to take a gangster“ raspberry ”or, at best, a drug gang, but in no way prepared and armed militants,” explains the source. According to him, it immediately catches the eye that during the assault the special forces call each other not by call sign, but by name. It is not clear for what reason the negotiator (perhaps the commander) turns out to be in the assault team, which seriously interferes with the work of the four fighters, but does not even put on personal protective equipment.

The staircase, on which the battle took place, is not fully controlled by the special forces. If the militants decided to make a breakthrough, the soldiers of the special forces could have great difficulty in holding them.

The assault group has a very strange choice of weapons - Ak-74 assault rifles, the silent Val "AS", as well as submachine guns. And the fighters themselves showed not the best level of fire training. It is surprising that they went to storm the premises with the militants, not even taking the shield.

Neither the external cordon, nor the fire trucks, nor the ambulance carriage can be seen on the video from the adjacent street.

"Work by the method of quickly filling the room, confusion and the presence of uncontrollable stress are visible to the naked eye," the interlocutor sums up

As stated in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan, the elimination of the militants was a success thanks to the conducted operational-search work, during which the apartment was clearly established, where the attackers were hiding. True, this statement after watching the video raises well-founded doubts. It is more likely that during the check, special forces soldiers accidentally stumbled upon hidden militants.

“This was how the American special services acted when they were looking for the Tsarnaev brothers who committed the terrorist attack in Boston. They cordoned off the areas and abandoned the fighters to check all the houses and buildings. As you know, brothers found. One was liquidated, the second was arrested. But there the search area was several times smaller and consisted mainly of one- and two-storey houses. Here is a whole city with communications and technological facilities, ”an employee of the Russian authorities tells the Military Industrial Courier. The work of Kazakh law enforcement agencies is reminiscent of chaotic throwing. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Security Committee independently and secretly from each other try to use the obtained operational information. It is not entirely clear how long the search will continue in Aktobe itself, if it is already clear that, despite all the reports about dozens of terrorists killed, the bulk of the militants left the city on Sunday.

Terrorists or rebels?


As already mentioned, the responsibility for the attacks was assumed by a certain “Liberation Army of Kazakhstan”, declaring a struggle with the current military-political leadership of the country. But the investigating authorities are skeptical about the AOK statements, especially since they were common through the Moscow branch of Radio Liberty. Siloviki prefer to work out the version of the militants of the IG.

A day after the attack on Aktobe, the KNB and the prosecutor's office of Kazakhstan detained several people who allegedly planned nothing more than a coup d'état. Moreover, the conspirators gathered to destabilize the situation in the country through similar attacks on government and military facilities.

It is noteworthy that immediately after reporting the arrest of the suspects, some media outlets directly stated their involvement in the organization of the attack in Aktobe. True, no official confirmation of this version was received from the investigative bodies of the republic.

It must be admitted that lately a certain number of citizens of Kazakhstan have risen under the banner of the IS and took an active part in the hostilities. But the percentage of the population in the country, where, despite the fall in oil prices, the economic situation is quite stable, is still insignificant in the ranks of the Islamic State compared to neighboring Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

Militants of the IG receive good training and, as experience shows, they are ready for contact combat even with an experienced opponent. Although the attackers in Aktobe turned out to be head and shoulders above the NG fighters of Kazakhstan in their moral and volitional qualities, the raid itself was very confused, and the attackers, not achieving an instant result, preferred to retire.

It is important that the militants did not wear the religious attributes of the IG or other radical Islamic movement, they looked more like secular society in the video. Therefore, it cannot be denied that the version in Aktobe was acted by a certain resistance group, although united by the Qur'an, but more moderate.

Although with the similar protests of the townsfolk began the collapse of the regime of Gaddafi in Libya, when the first were enough secular residents, dissatisfied with social conditions. A similar scenario began and the civil war in Syria. And only after some time, black and green banners of Islamic terrorist organizations appeared.
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  1. +2
    15 June 2016 21: 43
    I pay tribute to the author for the work done to prepare the article and its publication, but I am forced to express my opinion on the content and information content of the article. Extremely weak and not interesting!
    Something like this, naturally subjective opinion. winked
    1. +25
      15 June 2016 22: 07
      Good news "from the outskirts" !!!

      Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Volodymyr Turchynov said that the Soviet ammunition used by the Ukrainian army during the punitive operation in the Donbass is coming to an end. At the same time, there is no domestic production of shells in the country. According to Turchinov, during the two years of the conflict in the Donbass, the Ukrainian military “used the military stocks that were inherited from the Soviet army”. “But these reserves are not unlimited, a significant part of them was thoughtlessly disposed of or sold at a time when no one thought that they would have to fight,” the NSDCU press service quoted him on his website.

      Svidomye reached ... laughing
      1. +9
        15 June 2016 22: 37
        Che for nonsense about the video of the assault on the apartment? This 2012 video in Zheleznogorsk stormed the apartment, so don’t have to cheat, look for the video, look at the comments on it.http: //newtimes.kz/proisshestviya/item/33016-poyavilos-video-shturma-kv
        artiry-s-terroristami-v-aktobe
        1. +4
          15 June 2016 22: 47
          Quote: Igor39
          Che for nonsense about the video of the assault on the apartment? This video of 2010 in Neftekumsk stormed the apartment, so do not cheat, look for the video, look at the comments on it.

          And really.
          Here the truth is written about Zheleznogorsk, but the date ... 2012.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76qNKTA-YEE
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K71icF7Gh7o&app=desktop
          Perhaps this Alexei Ramm is a "representative of the opposition" himself, since he allows himself to slip such bullshit, such things are just in the style of fighters with a redhead.
          This is a stuffing campaign.
          1. +7
            15 June 2016 23: 39
            Such murder is being printed that the site looks more like a collective farm public than Military Review laughing
      2. 0
        15 June 2016 22: 40
        Incorrect information, there are warehouses near Kharkov warehouses near Tiraspol ... :-) I hope they went into a sudden check of availability ... Again, one of the advisers to the mayor of Sevas had access there and traded even with Africa ... With Ukraine - nearer...
      3. +1
        15 June 2016 22: 44
        The work of Kazakh law enforcement officers resembles chaotic throwing.
        - The first damn ... Well, it seems that the years of Nazarbayev’s calm reign end. In theory, the leadership should draw conclusions from the actions of the Kazakh special forces, urgently (!) Seek advice from the Russian special services and then rebuild their anti-terror systems. And as soon as possible, - by all accounts, this is far from the last speech against the authorities by our neighbors.
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      5. +2
        16 June 2016 01: 50
        In Ukraine, the USSR left ammunition, which would be enough for the Third World War. Got it, of course. Before fighting, it was necessary to at least conduct an audit in the warehouses. But then Ukraine! laughing
        1. +2
          16 June 2016 02: 09
          And they sold and wrote off, but there were other expenses - fires in ammunition depots. Since 2002, there have been several in Melitopol (900 cars), Kharkov, Khmelnitsky. In 2015, the APU warehouse burned down in the Luhansk region, where there were 3,5 shells for multiple launch rocket systems (probably air conditioners).
      6. +2
        16 June 2016 02: 17
        Quote: Persistent
        Soviet ammunition used by the Ukrainian army during the punitive operation in the Donbass is coming to an end.

        Poor Donbass. How much iron and TNT fell on them in two years? Even taking into account all their sales, it was unmeasured in a warehouse. Creatures stupidly bombarded the city with shells.
      7. 0
        16 June 2016 07: 30
        Quote: Persistent
        Good news "from the outskirts" !!!

        The fact that ammunition is not enough is certainly good, but the news is incomplete, this apricot also said that 800 types of plants can produce new ones. There is such an idea that soon the plants owned by pigs and hedgehogs with him will begin to produce them in large quantities, for state money of course.
        So that's how it is ...
  2. +3
    15 June 2016 21: 46
    In general, the operation itself resembled a movie. All day there were some reports. The militants acted competently, if they really captured the weapons store, then there you can stock up on semi-automatic rifled carbines, in fact, army machine guns. And about the "capture" or "liquidation" I did not see anything on the news. They showed some kind of intersection and then the adjacent territory, where an olive-colored "Tiger" car drove. And that's all.
    1. +5
      15 June 2016 22: 11
      Quote: Altona
      In general, the operation itself resembled a movie. All day there were some kind of relations.

      This always happens when politicians interfere with the operation. Their presence at the scene brings confusion to the work of even the most trained professionals.
      1. 0
        15 June 2016 23: 11
        Nobody will intervene in the actions of the Real Special Forces. Dancing on the bones for Isil PR. The Security Service IS UNDERFINING. Look for the person concerned by zhuz.
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 12: 21
          Quote: ty60
          Nobody intervenes in the actions of the Real Special Forces.

          This you tell the dead in Budyonnovsk and Dubrovka.
  3. 0
    15 June 2016 21: 48
    Well, how would it be, but where is the opinion on these remarks of the official side, "ah! They call each other by name" and so forth - does not convince
  4. 0
    15 June 2016 21: 49
    I'm tired of all. I'm leaving
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  5. +15
    15 June 2016 21: 49
    The most important conclusion from all that happened and not only in Kazakhstan: another growth has grown that does not know life and its values, which did not live in the USSR and which has a completely different perception of the world and their place in this world.

    Idleness, lack of control, the absence of serious life tasks and the need for labor - this is a single reason that gives rise to general consequences.
    1. 0
      15 June 2016 22: 29
      Dear, if so, here the prepared actions (film crew) with information support, as the events showed, were simply not ready for this (not even trained)
  6. +7
    15 June 2016 21: 49
    Well, Kazakhstan did not have its own Chechnya, and therefore the actions of the security forces left much to be desired.
    1. 0
      16 June 2016 00: 48
      There, a kind of "Chechnya" was in Alma-ata back in 86. This was one of the first performances, i.e. an attempt at a color revolution. From recent Zhanaozen. Due to the corrupt mentality, the KNB is a complete failure. And special forces not participating in real operations against terrorism
      1. +1
        16 June 2016 02: 40
        In Zhanaozen, they simply suppressed the unrest that was brought about by corruption, non-payment of salaries and unemployment ...
        Well, rather, they did not suppress it, but they went about shooting unarmed people, including those already lying, and all this is on video.
  7. +2
    15 June 2016 22: 24
    Dear, partly correct analysis, the actions of the attackers immediately raised a number of questions, namely the purpose (resonance, then armament), note that the attack was not against banks, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, weapons depots, but objects (as if protected, but rather conditionally). This is where the action comes from, everything is unexpected (the question is how the gun shops are guarded, how the guard service is organized), then the actions of the authorities and local and central, there are a lot of questions (I am sure the information for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the security authorities was different), here and actions. By the way, the legal system still has not qualified the attack from the point of view of the law. Here are the conclusions, not legally organizationally, not on the level (regional in general, but on the central issues), the authorities are not ready for such confrontations
    1. 0
      15 June 2016 22: 32
      Quote: 31rus2
      the authorities are not ready for such confrontations

      In my opinion, your idea, Mikhail, is really competent. But I have not changed my opinion about the article, the article is weak. hi The topic is interesting and topical, but the author (topic) did not disclose it, limiting himself to retelling other publications, plus his own (author) extremely weak analytics, if it can be considered at all among populist cliches. hi
      1. +1
        15 June 2016 22: 46
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        . But opinions about the article I have not changed

        and rightly so, I regret that I put the plus, 20 people, 15 people, and the chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs said that they agreed 29, the imam preached for 45, they went to the store 25
        https://i-news.kz/news/2016/06/14/8324177-sem_uchastnikov_terakta_v_aktobe_byli_
        ra.html
  8. +5
    15 June 2016 22: 35
    During the nineties and two thousand years, Kazakhstan went around wars, major crime and terrorism. The National Security Committee was engaged in the protection of power, the police in the protection of order, and the army simply served in peacetime! And so that the siloviki have professionalism, training in combat conditions in hot spots is necessary, which Kazakhstan did not have. Hence the loss of professionalism and such a reaction to the terrorist threat. In calm Kazakhstan, they were not ready for this, and there were no specialists with experience. I believe that after this tragedy, conclusions will be drawn and the situation will improve!
    1. 0
      15 June 2016 23: 17
      Spain asked for advisers. In Russia, there are enough of them now, past hot spots. Want to learn, teach. Well, not like Obama to force! East is a delicate matter
      1. 0
        16 June 2016 11: 03
        Quote: ty60
        Spain requested advisers.

        Spain just did not ask for advisers, the USSR itself got there. And where is that Spain and where is the USSR?

        But modern Kazakhstan is the geopolitical underbelly of Russia in Central Asia, the preservation of stability and the prevention of civil war there - A LIFE ISSUE FOR THE NATIONAL INTERESTS OF RUSSIA.
    2. 0
      15 June 2016 23: 17
      Spain asked for advisers. In Russia, there are enough of them now, past hot spots. Want to learn, teach. Well, not like Obama to force! East is a delicate matter
  9. 0
    15 June 2016 23: 03
    Nazarbayev is an intelligent and strong-willed politician,
    Kazakhs will not follow the path of Bandera.
    1. 0
      15 June 2016 23: 34
      You apparently did not live in Kazakhstan, if you think so. The Kazakhs did not leave the path of brutal nationalism and the destruction of Russians.
      1. +5
        16 June 2016 01: 01
        Quote: s30461
        The Kazakhs did not leave the path of brutal nationalism and the destruction of Russians.

        1. -1
          16 June 2016 02: 41
          Whatever Estonia wrote, where in the 90s raids into the Pskov region were used to move not only the border posts to the Pskov Kremlin ...
          1. +1
            16 June 2016 11: 16
            Quote: Simpsonian
            Whose Estonia would write ...

            And I know better from here! laughing
  10. +6
    15 June 2016 23: 16
    By the way, such reconnaissance in battle turned out ... from the side of an unknown enemy.
    Which showed that the power structure of Kazakhstan has little idea of ​​how to defend its state.
    Please note that in the power structures of Kazakhstan there are no Russians in high positions. It looks like senior posts in the power block are appointed there according to national affiliation and family ties, and not according to professional qualities.
    1. +5
      15 June 2016 23: 37
      Quote: Skubudu
      By the way, such reconnaissance in battle turned out ... from the side of an unknown enemy.
      Which showed that the power structure of Kazakhstan has little idea of ​​how to defend its state.
      Please note that in the power structures of Kazakhstan there are no Russians in high positions. It looks like senior posts in the power block are appointed there according to national affiliation and family ties, and not according to professional qualities.

      And in what national republic is the power vertical built differently? And where did the national authorities show themselves as good administrators and managers?
      1. 0
        16 June 2016 02: 35
        In the RSFSR, where there were almost no Russians in any leading positions, in the Kazakh SSR they were "at least" deputies of the general laughing

        And in the SA no crest is a sergeant ...
        1. 0
          16 June 2016 07: 55
          Quote: Simpsonian
          in the Kazakh SSR they were "at least" deputies of the generals laughing

          Yeah, the boss is Kazakh, the chief engineer is Russian or German.
          There is no boss, he is drinking vodka and eating meat at a wedding, a funeral, and he is fulfilling the Russian (German) plan.
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  11. +1
    16 June 2016 01: 31
    Is "MIC News" a Kazakh site or hosted in Kazakhstan? What is he writing to Aktobe instead of Aktyubinsk?
    We look forward to receiving good news from Paris, Roma, Washington and Chisinau ... laughing
  12. 0
    16 June 2016 03: 22
    Quote: Persistent
    Good news "from the outskirts" !!!

    Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Volodymyr Turchynov said that the Soviet ammunition used by the Ukrainian army during the punitive operation in the Donbass is coming to an end. At the same time, there is no domestic production of shells in the country. According to Turchinov, during the two years of the conflict in the Donbass, the Ukrainian military “used the military stocks that were inherited from the Soviet army”. “But these reserves are not unlimited, a significant part of them was thoughtlessly disposed of or sold at a time when no one thought that they would have to fight,” the NSDCU press service quoted him on his website.

    Svidomye reached ... laughing


    But
    there are other unfortunate countries from the socialist camp, they will give me a ride ...
    ..
  13. +1
    16 June 2016 03: 53
    What can I say ... the first sounding of the actions of the authorities was carried out, the reaction time ... of the action.
    In the victorious broadcasts, one thing was not heard ... that all the stolen weapons were returned ... and this is something worth considering.
  14. +3
    16 June 2016 04: 01
    It turns out that Semin rebuked Madame from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that she did not care about the Russians. Surname Madame Zakharova.
  15. +2
    16 June 2016 05: 29
    That you clung to the Kazakhs, well, they did not have terrorists before. If there weren’t on the USA planet, there wouldn’t be any terrorists in Kazakhstan. By the way, the terrorists are also poorly trained, just the United States had to create the appearance of a zone of instability in order to divert attention from something important and quickly.
  16. -6
    16 June 2016 05: 42
    The Nazarbayev clan, with its complete shamelessness and greed, has long outraged Kazakhstan.
    In addition to the appropriation of the public property by the clan, there is a hypocritical national policy, the Kazakhs are brazenly crowding out Russians, robbing, raping, killing, and law enforcement officers do not even accept applications from victims.
    The Russians in Kazakhstan remained only in the places of their compact residence on the primordially Russian lands and did not mind joining Russia at all.
    1. +1
      16 June 2016 07: 59
      Quote: Corsair5912
      The Russians in Kazakhstan remained only in the places of their compact residence on the primordially Russian lands and did not mind joining Russia at all.

      Sorry, each with a side vision, accidentally zamusnovat.

      Kazakhs in Kazakhstan are all so ardent for independence, but in the Omsk, Novosibirsk region, and in other regions of the Russian Federation they live satisfied, no one is going to move to the Kazakh steppes.
    2. 0
      16 June 2016 11: 05
      Quote: Corsair5912
      The Nazarbayev clan, with its complete shamelessness and greed, has long outraged Kazakhstan.

      And this very strongly reminds the Yanukovych clan.
    3. +1
      17 June 2016 14: 15
      Wow, like cross-eyed menus.
      Did you not like the map? Or a comment?
  17. +2
    16 June 2016 05: 52
    Quote: Corsair5912
    The Nazarbayev clan, with its complete shamelessness and greed, has long outraged Kazakhstan.

    The whole essence of the division of the Soviet Union was in this - the seizure of power by local clans. In this case, the people will receive nothing but infringement of their rights. It is absolutely useless to organize a revolution under such conditions; a neighboring, competing clan will simply come to power.
  18. 0
    16 June 2016 05: 52
    as grandfather Lenin bequeathed (it is also Ulyanov V.I.) "Study, study, and study again" to paraphrase a little, "while teaching others, learn yourself" ...
    1. 0
      16 June 2016 08: 03
      Quote: Volka
      as grandfather Lenin bequeathed

      Grandfather Lenin and his partner Leiba Trotsky all sorts of Kazakhstan and Ukraine and penned.
      Learning it is necessary not to step on the rake several times.
      1. 0
        16 June 2016 14: 57
        You need to be treated and studied.
        Lenin and Trotsky have never been partners for a single minute. Trotsky until the 1918 year was a Menshevik and joined the Bolsheviks after the victory of the revolution.
        Lenin did not compose the Kazakhs and the Ukraine, they and another dozen or so "sovereign republics", like the "Don Troops" of the ghoul Ataman Krasnov and "Gulyapol" Batka Makhno themselves bred in 1917, like toadstools after rain. Their elimination meant the resumption of the civil war.
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