Russian demographic indicators puzzled Western "partners"

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The other day in the English version Forbes An article appeared in which the author expresses bewilderment about demographic indicators in Russia. According to the author, the complication of the economic situation in the country, as the author himself expected, should have led to a repetition of the 1998 situation of the year: economic problems giving rise to a demographic failure. However, in Russia there was not only a demographic failure, but also a significant decline in the birth rates.

Russian demographic indicators puzzled Western "partners"


Moreover, mortality rates continued to decline in the country.

At the end of the “Forbes” material, the author even tries to reassure himself by giving the following phrase:

It is likely that with a further extension of the recession in the economy, the situation (...) may change. Even in countries with a developed economy and a more efficient social protection system, including a developed health care system, the economic recession still affects demographics. And I find no reason for Russia to suddenly become an exception to this rule.


Logic-s ... One compares Russia with Bangladesh (while in Bangladesh, with an economic collapse, everything is so “in order” with demographic indicators that a population that is larger than the population of the Russian Federation lives in a territory about the size of Tajikistan), the other is killed about that the population of Russia “does not die out” ... In general, the logic of the “partners” is the same: they literally dream of the territory of Russia as of the territory of Bangladesh with the level of Bangladeshi “technologies”, constant civil strife and at the same time an endangered people. Yeah ... It is literally a day-to-day dream of those who, since the end of World War II, pondered: which regions of Russia (USSR) should they drop atomic bombs of "democracy" for greater effectiveness ...

Now it is worth referring to those indicators that so outraged one of the authors. Forbes.

According to Rosstat, the fall of the Russian economy in 2015 was about 3,7%. In 2016, a drop is expected again, but significantly lower - no more than 0,8% (the World Bank forecasts up to 1,5%). What about birth and death rates? Things in this area are as follows (if you believe the indicators of the same Rosstat):

For the period from January to April, about 605 thousands of babies were born in the Russian Federation. This is about 6 thousand people less than the same period last year. However, at the same time, mortality, including infant mortality, has decreased by almost 30 thousand. The natural decline in the population still manifests itself - about 37 thousands of people for a specified period. However, the new tendency to reduce natural losses suggests that by the end of the year, the indicator may again either go to zero or be replaced by a natural increase.

It is noteworthy that the death rate in the Russian Federation is declining for all categories of causes. Thus, according to the country's main statistical office, on a monthly comparison (for April) of 2016 and 2015, the mortality rate from tuberculosis decreased by 319 cases; on 1072 cases - from neoplasms, including malignant ones, on 218 - from alcohol poisoning, on 655 - from pneumonia, on 230 - from cases on transport (including accidents), on 5493 from ischemic disease, on 109 - from hypertension, on 695 - from from diseases associated with circulatory disorders. In addition, on the 284 case, the death rate from suicide decreased, on 32 - from murder. The increase in the mortality rate was observed only in three categories: deaths from influenza and acute respiratory infections (plus 21 case compared to April 2015), intestinal infections (plus 2 case) and from accidental drowning (plus 31 case).

General indicators of reducing infant mortality also can not be encouraging. The number of children who died before the age of 1, on 1000 born in January-April, 2016, was reduced to the 6,1 case. Over the same period of 2015, 6,7 cases were noted. For comparison: the average infant mortality rate in EU countries is 5-5,2 cases, in Ukraine 8 cases per 1000 people. Moreover, if in the EU the trend develops towards the decline in the percentage of infant mortality, Ukraine is experiencing its growth (about 0,4 cases compared to January-April 2015).

Over the past 12 years, infant mortality in Russia has declined by more than 40%. The leaders among the regions with low infant mortality in the Russian Federation include: the Nenets Autonomous District (zero deaths from January to April 2016), the Chuvash Republic (2,6), the Novgorod region (3,7). There are alarming indicators in this regard in the Chukotka Autonomous Region (26 infant deaths on 1000 born), in the Jewish Autonomous Region (18) and Karachay-Cherkessia (10,4).

Birth and death rates in the regions of Russia, as noted by experts, are not directly dependent on their economic indicators. The availability of a relatively developed health care system and the possibility of obtaining real (but not paper) access to the population make a much more significant contribution to the processes. Although the developed health care system is actually also part of the economy.

Where local statistical services allow themselves to report on improving the quality of medical care provided, trying to gloss over the real situation, after a very short period of time, truth reveals itself in mortality, including infant mortality. In other words, it is pointless to hide real numbers when taking into account the presence of a large number of modern ways to check and compare such reports, including journalistic inquiries, which sometimes make it possible to reveal some “postscripts”.

It should be noted that in order to improve the demographic situation in Russia, the state is implementing a large-scale project called the State Program of the Russian Federation "Health development". The program is designed for the period up to 2020 of the year and in its essence, from the point of view of national security, it is certainly no less important than the program of reform and re-equipment of the Russian army.

It is encouraging that for 4 year before the end of this program, some goals set by the state have already been achieved. In particular, the Ministry of Health planned to reduce infant mortality rates to 6,4 (for 1000 born) by 2020. As it was said in the material above, for the first 4 months of the current year this indicator is fixed at the mark of 6,1.

A very ambitious task is the state to bring life expectancy in Russia to 74,3 years to the year 2020 mentioned. At the moment, this figure is 71,4 of the year.

Among the goals: anti-tobacco and anti-alcohol. They are associated with the intentions of the Ministry of Health to reduce the percentage of the number of people consuming tobacco and tobacco products among the adult population of the country to 25% and among adolescents to 15%. Alcohol - up to 10 l (in terms of pure alcohol) per person per year. While alcohol consumption is 11,2 l.

It is worth noting that a set of certain measures already leads to positive results. Over the past 3 of the year, the number of tobacco users in Russians has decreased by almost 12%. In terms of alcohol consumption 10 years ago, Russia was in 3-th place in the world (after Moldova and the Czech Republic), now - on 8.

The health improvement program, of course, is directly dependent on funding from the state. And if this funding is not cut in favor of those who declare savings more important than the health and lives of Russians, then most of the goals will really be achieved. And how will not the "Forbs" experts react? - the problem of the Forbes experts themselves.
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  1. +86
    14 June 2016 06: 19
    How do you "love" us! . to your! Who else believes that the West brings prosperity to democracy for us?
    1. +26
      14 June 2016 07: 28
      ......... The extermination war against Russia, the skillfully planned genocide of the Russian people, are carried out under the guise of sonorous distracting signs of a dozen programs, including such a large-scale, publicly called "Family Planning", which, however, has only one goal - the destruction families. In all documents, including the article “Family Planning” (section 7) of the Law on Health Care in the Russian Federation, it is clearly defined what is included in the medical concept of “family planning”, there are only three points: contraception, abortion, sterilization. All! In the strategy of “family planning”, even at the official level, even to avert eyes, there is no talk of family. In the guidelines for the numerous “family planning” centers that have entangled Russia, the criterion for success is the number of abortions. Not the number of cured infertile couples, not the increase in the number of newborns, namely, the number of murders of infants in the womb. Is this not the most vivid evidence of the true goal of creating centers of "family planning"! .......

      This is for example ...
      1. +34
        14 June 2016 08: 23
        "Russian demographic indicators puzzled Western" partners "
        Sounds weak "PUZZED" should be SHOCKED! And for this you need as air: Affordable housing for everyone !!!! Kindergartens for everyone !!! Decent salaries for everyone !!!! A Russian woman who has devoted herself to the birth and upbringing of her children should be equated with a civil servant. Persons of nationalities who immigrated to Russia. Members of non-Russian diasporas who have their own country of residence should not have any rights to support the demography in Russia. In mixed marriages, if children are not registered as Russians, nor any support or social protection.
        That's when every Russian family will have from 4 children and above. Here then in each family there will be a child whose parents are not afraid of procreation, will send him to the army. To protect our homeland.
        1. +2
          14 June 2016 19: 06
          Quote: Observer2014
          Russian woman dedicated to the birth and upbringing of her children should be equated with a civil servant.



          Um ... I agree with your conclusions with many, although they are somewhat emotional ...

          However, equating a woman who gave birth to a civil servant is already fantastic ...
          Who will allow this ... You probably just don’t know how officials are fighting for this title ...
          Indeed, in the same state-federal organization it may be that civil servants make up from 10 to 25%, and the rest are all just employees ... not state ... Salaries, "bonuses", and much more depend on this. other ...

          Well, and something else ... Almost all of us know that since last spring the Swiss tried to introduce almost communism ... Well, they have a lot, too much free (interest) money from around the world ...

          However, last week they already made a firm decision to abandon this project ... It can corrupt the population too much, generally they’ll spill anything to do ...

          Also with some of your suggestions ... If you adopted such a law, it would certainly be crude and perverted (well, we are not used to thinking in our Duma), and the devil would begin to know what twists and turns ...
        2. +1
          19 June 2016 16: 58
          Quote: Observer2014
          how air is needed: Affordable housing for everyone !!!! Kindergartens for everyone !!! Worthy salaries to everyone !!!! A Russian woman who has devoted herself to the birth and upbringing of her children should be equated with a public servant. Persons of nationalities immigrated to Russia. Members of non-Russian diasporas and having their own country should not have any rights to support demography in Russia. In mixed marriages, if children are not registered as Russian. There is no support and social protection.
          That's when every Russian family will have from 4 children and above. Here then in each family there will be a child whose parents are not afraid of procreation, will send him to the army. To protect our homeland.

          I will support with all the limbs!
      2. +4
        14 June 2016 12: 45
        This is for example ...
        And for example, take and give birth to a child unplanned, as "partners" say - extra, or convince a son-daughter to give birth. Yes, name your grandfather (grandmother) after the winner. Yes, educate a worthy person as a patriot of Russia. That would be a real memory, and not just the St. George ribbon on the dirty antenna of the car and half a liter for the collar on May 9. And no family planning centers can interfere with anything. But that’s all. It’s gone to speak easier and more carefree
        1. +4
          14 June 2016 21: 17
          Quote: jktu66
          And no family planning centers will be able to interfere with anything.

          How can they interfere?
          Help, yes, but you can only interfere with yourself (or you don’t want children or health pro .. smoked, drank, etc.)

          This is because an abortion can even be done at home, at least if you do not think about the consequences, then any student of the third honey will be able to.
          But IVF or the management of a complex pregnancy or premature birth - such centers are being built for this.
          Earlier in the USSR, it was believed that the child was less than a kilo dead, I'm not kidding - they weighed, they covered the "dead" column, if the normal doctors resuscitated - one out of 50 survived. Now they are nursing (at least in Moscow) 700 grams and no one will turn off the box. And this is not because the doctors have become better, just the carelessness, to put it mildly, has not really decreased. This is because the equipment, again, to put it mildly, was not cheap.
          And in general, it’s necessary to say thanks to the state specifically for the centers; citizens haven’t increased their health. Half of my acquaintances gave birth to me with serious complications, and my second one, if it hadn’t given birth in the Central Rescue Center, gave birth to no one knows how it ended ...
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      4. +4
        14 June 2016 20: 31
        Quote: gla172
        In all documents, including in the article “Family Planning” (section 7) of the Law on Health Care in the Russian Federation, it is clearly defined what is included in the medical concept of “family planning”, there are only three points: contraception, abortion, sterilization




        Firstly, YOU refer to the law of 93 years, which LOSED FORCE (forgot to update the training manual?)
        Secondly, in this law there is no clear definition family planning concepts
        Thirdly, in the above-mentioned section, which by the way is called not "Family planning" but "Medical activities in family planning and regulation of reproductive function" no word contraception
        Fourth, the section begins with an article on artificial insemination and implantation of an embryo, which is why reproduction centers and family planning, and due to which they were able to give birth to tens of thousands of women
        - and finally, the fifth, in the current law, section 7 (now it is the sixth) is completely rewritten and now it is generally about something else, namely about the rights of mother and child

        Is this not the most vivid evidence of the sinlessness of some publicists.
        This is for example ...
        1. 0
          15 June 2016 06: 41
          Quote: bk316
          Is this not the most vivid evidence of the sinlessness of some publicists.


          I agree one hundred this is outdated information ...... but the fact remains a fact ... but idle talk has nothing to do with it ...
          1. +2
            15 June 2016 10: 38
            Quote: gla172
            but the fact remains

            Fact is that NO DEFINITION TERM "FAMILY PLANNING" like abortion, contraception and sterilization and nothing else NO NOR NEW IN AN OLD LAW.

            Admit it or you are a liar
          2. +2
            15 June 2016 13: 45
            In general, I am struck by this stupid typing of fakes on more or less decent forums.

            Well, okay, something about the ERP and the wavelength, the corresponding integral are able to count 2 people out of 10000 (or maybe less). And you want to show yourself, so they retype the formulas without understanding what follows from them.

            Well, I understand that they do not know what abortions are done in any hospital (even one day's hospital in the early stages), and IVF in 10–2 years ago in 3-XNUMX places in the country until they started to build reproduction centers.

            Well, the laws are in fact accessible to anyone, they are in the public domain, I went in and looked, I saw that it says something completely different, no, because at first they thoughtlessly copy-paste, then they also rest.
            In this case, I was not too lazy to find a student source of 90 something shaggy year, because even it was distorted.

            Is that stupidity? Liberal reluctance to see the obvious? Bias?
    2. +7
      14 June 2016 09: 03
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Aw, who else believes that the West brings us prosperity democracy?

      Clarify, if only for yourself, what is "democracy"? Then you can answer the question: "How can the power of slave owners bring prosperity to the people?" The sane understand how the "demos" differs from the "okhlos" and how those "lop-eared" who do not understand the meanings are more dangerous than those who substitute these meanings.
    3. +1
      14 June 2016 09: 38
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      How do you "love" us! . to your! Who else believes that the West brings prosperity to democracy for us?

      Well, there are characters who write NATO aggression exclusively in quotation marks. And also some trajectories of Iranian missiles over Romania are drawn. (only Iranian, and only over Romania) Yes
    4. 0
      14 June 2016 10: 44
      They can carry democracy only on the wings of bombers ..
      1. +14
        14 June 2016 12: 48
        A couple of weeks ago I gave birth to a third kid ... Happy. Watch football hockey five ..
        1. +6
          14 June 2016 14: 01
          Quote: gray smeet
          A couple of weeks ago I gave birth to a third kid ...

          Congratulations. And I’m soon 2 months as a grandfather three times. And another tribe appeared. For the first time in the family, it is not possible to equip all babies with used things - you need to buy not individual things, but a set, starting with a stroller. Nicely...
          1. 0
            15 June 2016 02: 00
            Generally handsome
          2. +1
            16 June 2016 15: 05
            And this year my grandson and granddaughter were born, now I have seven grandchildren. Who has more?
        2. 0
          15 June 2016 01: 59
          Ay, well done
      2. +5
        14 June 2016 13: 58
        Quote: dmi.pris
        They can carry democracy only on the wings of bombers ..

        Not at all. That's just on the wings they do not work very well. And on the famous donkey - just come on. Which bombers democratized our country 30 years ago? I have not seen one. And Pavlovsky 60 rubles. remember well. And I understand that Khan, tomorrow a wooden shovel of 8 million will cost, I also remember. And the glossy part of the head in front of the gadar’s eyes, too. So where does the power of the American people in our country come from? What wing?
    5. +2
      15 June 2016 00: 38
      Shit democracy and carries (us)
      And prosperity to them.
      We believe in it.
    6. -2
      16 June 2016 07: 00
      "You can't understand Russia with your mind, you can't measure it with a common yardstick, She has a special place, You can only believe in Russia" - probably something like this ...
  2. +8
    14 June 2016 06: 22
    . Even in countries with developed economies and more effective social protection systems, including a well-developed healthcare system, the economic downturn still affects demographics


    He doesn’t want to look at his country? There is a developed economy and a developed social sphere: they DO NOT want to give birth! But in Africa and Asia, as much as you want .....
    1. +12
      14 June 2016 08: 51
      Quote: Aleksander
      . Even in countries with developed economies and more effective social protection systems, including a well-developed healthcare system, the economic downturn still affects demographics


      He doesn’t want to look at his country? There is a developed economy and a developed social sphere: they DO NOT want to give birth! But in Africa and Asia, as much as you want .....

      So this is a general trend - the better the living conditions, the better the deal with social programs and pensions, the lower the birth rate. Plus, traditions play a role.
      Even in laboratory rats, with a lack of food, they multiply much more intensively than with an excess of it.
      Just 100 years ago in Russia, the only way to provide pension to the bulk of the population was to have children — the more they are, the higher the chance to live well in old age. With the involvement of women in wage labor and with the development of social services and pensions, fertility declined. Now, for a real increase in the birth rate, it is already necessary for a third child - at least in the Slavic-European (by population, not geography) regions, to pay a woman an average, or slightly less, salary for women in the region. And for the fourth child - to increase this salary plus increase the child allowance, plus parental leave - up to 7 years and paid. Then it will be good.
      But you shouldn’t have a ulcer about Western publications - there’s nothing to rejoice about: we again have a natural population decline, but a couple of years ago there was a slight increase. And this decrease is explained by nothing more than a crisis.
      1. +8
        14 June 2016 09: 42
        the only way to provide retirement benefits to the bulk of the population was to have children - the more they are, the higher the chance to live well in old age.


        That's right ... And even the Soviet childless tax was correct in the face of seeming absurdity. Do you want to raise a breadwinner (and our children make pensions for us) - pay. Now this will not work (parasitism is not prosecuted). Therefore, the woman must pay directly, and not a penny, but seriously. This is a problem for all developed countries, the number of pensioners is almost equal to the number of employees. And they will increase the retirement age, they simply have nowhere to go ...
    2. +6
      14 June 2016 09: 51
      Quote: Aleksander
      . Even in countries with developed economies and more effective social protection systems, including a well-developed healthcare system, the economic downturn still affects demographics


      He doesn’t want to look at his country? There is a developed economy and a developed social sphere: they DO NOT want to give birth! But in Africa and Asia, as much as you want .....

      They, miserable, still think that to raise the birth rate you need an EXCLUSIVELY developed social sphere ....

      Let them try to tell this to the parents of my generation - the military-post-war ... In the 40s, there was no such word "social sphere" ... It was difficult, but they gave birth ... One child in a family - either from a "creative intelligentsia ", or the rarity is the same as now four or five ...
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 20: 12
        Zoldat_A
        Let them try to tell this to the parents of my generation - the military-post-war ...
        In the 40s, there was no such word "social sphere" ... It was difficult, but they were giving birth ...

        Ha! Well, you have examples! You don’t know life!
        Let it be known to you that abortion in the USSR was banned from 1936 to 1956.
        And you: "It was difficult, but they gave birth ..." Of course, they gave birth if they were imprisoned for 10 years in camps for illegal abortion!
        Over the years, 3,5 million women have been convicted between the ages of 15 and 49. And how many of them died from community-acquired abortions and births ?! And big growth was infanticide. And this is only in the cities! In rural areas, this account for abortion was not conducted then.
        1. +1
          17 June 2016 14: 18
          Quote: Tatiana
          if for illegal abortion they planted 10 years in camps!

          Yes, not ... It's not like that ... Not for 10 years, but immediately shot through quartering. And not 3,5 million, but all 350 ... And plus - a dozen "with execution" for those who performed illegal abortions ...

          3,5 million women were convicted from ages 15 to 49 years.

          Is it written in the history textbook from Soros? Well, at least you would not be too lazy and open adequate sources, from where you would know that 10 years of camps for minors (this is about your "from 15") is a terrible nonsense.

          In rural areas, this accounting for abortions was not conducted then.

          Well, of course. All are in the camps - to whom to lead something? ..
          1. +1
            17 June 2016 15: 04
            Volodin
            ........................

            Nefig humor in vain in serious business!
            In 2015, the Russian Federation was a serious reason to study the issues of abortion in the history of our country closely! And there were many articles on this subject.
            And even there were articles on this topic on the site "VO". I strongly advise you to read it, otherwise you will remain a "humorist" for life!
            Article “Abortion. To give birth or not to give birth? Orthodoxy and National Security of the Russian Federation ”from June 8, 15, 25, 2015.
            Article 1. - https://topwar.ru/76412-abortion-rozhat-ili-ne-rozhat-pravoslavie-i-nacionalnaya-be
            zopasnost-rf-statya-1.html
            Article 2. - https://topwar.ru/76913-abortion-rozhat-ili-ne-rozhat-pravoslavie-i-nacionalnaya-be
            zopasnost-rf-statya-2.html
            Article 3. - https://topwar.ru/77363-abortion-rozhat-ili-ne-rozhat-pravoslavie-i-nacionalnaya-be
            zopasnost-rf-statya-3.html
            1. 0
              17 June 2016 15: 41
              Quote: Tatiana
              Nefig humor in vain in serious business!

              Dear Tatyana, who is here and "humorous" is you. Your statement about 3,5 million imprisoned for abortion in camps during the Stalin years, and all of them - for 10 years, and even from the age of 15 - can hardly be called anything other than "black humor".

              Or at least this phrase:
              "And how many of them died from out-of-hospital abortions and childbirth ?!"

              And how many? You have statistics, or so - just "by the way".
              1. 0
                18 June 2016 00: 53
                Volodin
                Dear Tatyana, who is here and "humorous" is you. Your statement about 3,5 million imprisoned for abortion in camps during the Stalin years, and all of them - for 10 years, and even from the age of 15 - can hardly be called anything other than "black humor".

                Have you read the articles? After all, there are links to the source data.
                Actually, in my ardor, I wrote a post - simply from memory, without checking all the data I have.
                And, firstly, I was mistaken in the year that the ban on abortion in the USSR was lifted. After the war, the USSR was the first country in Europe in which the abortion ban was canceled - this was 1 year earlier than I indicated in my post - in 1, and not in 1955. And already in 1956, following the example of the USSR, they began to abolish the ban on abortion in other countries, primarily in the countries of the socialist camps and, lastly, in Western countries.
                The number of women convicted of “non-hospital” abortions can be judged by registering the number of these abortions, because they were punished without leniency. But statistics on them for those 1936-1955 years were preserved only for cities, and then not for all republics, but mainly for the Russian Federation, Belarus, Ukraine. In rural areas, with medicine at that time it was worse than in cities, and people were more friendly (they did not give out their own). In general, no statistics on abortion have so far been found in rural areas (at feldsher points). It is believed that statistics on them were simply not kept there by employees, and the diagnoses themselves were replaced.
                Well, here's the statistical number of these so-called “Community-acquired” abortions and the number of convicted women was calculated. And the ban on abortion applied to women aged 15-49 (this is the fertile age of women), and it didn’t matter that, for example, a pregnant woman was already a mother with many children. All were sent to the zone. True, secondly, in my opinion, I was somewhat mistaken in the number of convicts - I wrote that 3,5 million women were convicted of so-called “Community-acquired” abortions, but, in my opinion, it would still be more correct to say - FROM 2,5 million, only pregnant abortion women and “child-bearing” women in labor were convicted. And there were also doctors, and healers, etc. concealers.
                This ban on abortion in the USSR was canceled due to the fact that it dawned on the leadership that this law was unprofitable for the country's economy and discriminated against women's rights ERROR - male chauvinism.
                Read the articles I have indicated - everything is told about it there.
                1. +1
                  18 June 2016 01: 59
                  Volodin
                  Your statement about 3,5 million imprisoned for abortion in camps during the Stalin years, and all of them - for 10 years, and even from the age of 15 - can hardly be called anything other than "black humor".
                  Alexey! I was still not too lazy and checked. It turns out that my memory did not disappoint me. Yes, for 1936-1955 for the so-called. "community-acquired" abortions in the USSR were condemned by about 3,5 million women-abortions of fertile age (aged 15-49 years).
                  See Article “Abortion. To give birth or not to give birth? Orthodoxy and national security of the Russian Federation ”-
                  https://topwar.ru/76913-abort-rozhat-ili-ne-rozhat-pravoslavie-i-nacionalnaya-be
                  zopasnost-rf-statya-2.html
                  1. -1
                    18 June 2016 06: 50
                    Tatyana
                    I actually wrote a post in my fervor.


                    Key phrase
                    1. +1
                      18 June 2016 08: 48
                      Volodin
                      Tatyana
                      I actually wrote a post in my fervor.
                      Key phrase

                      Well, you give! And what of it? Did ardor cancel this problem ?! or sent her into historical oblivion ?!
                      After all, nothing has changed from my ardor. The figures after verification, as they were 3,5 million, remained the same - 3,5 million people.
  3. +1
    14 June 2016 06: 28
    And why are the statistics for the regions not given?
    1. +10
      14 June 2016 06: 46
      Well, there is only one conclusion - the foreign author either does not know the "theory of the aquarium" or knows, but does not want to know. Meanwhile, demographers have long determined that the population does not grow where there is social despair. There is no way to explain the growth of the population in Brazil and a number of other countries where nationally oriented governments came to power. Did they immediately become richer? No, but there was hope and guidance. So the growth of the population of the Russian Federation is also an important indicator that the "people" feel that it is worth reproducing, it makes sense, it is simply profitable. This also speaks of trends in the development of the economy, no matter how much it is scolded.
      There is an interesting work on this subject: Kapitsa SP, World demographic crisis and Russia. In Sat: The Future of Russia. Challenges and projects: History. Demography. The science. Defense / Ed. G.G. Malinetsky, M., Librocom, 2009
      1. +2
        14 June 2016 09: 01
        Is it profitable to reproduce? Is this in the sense of "maternity capital"? But what about reasonable sufficiency and opportunity? In general, demographic statistics are as tricky science as all statistics. And the process of birth and death is cyclical. The cycle duration is approximately equal to one generation and is associated with other events: war, epidemics, regime change, etc. Try to find statistics in the public domain on the population decline after the revolution and its consequences after 1917 and similar after the Second World War. However, after such shocks, the birth rate rises sharply. The same shock was for the generation of the late 80s - mid 90s. If the economy is stable, the growth in the birth rate and the decrease in the death rate will last for another five years. With the same situation in the future, the birth rate will stabilize below the current level, but there will be more pensioners if the retirement age is not raised.
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        2. +3
          14 June 2016 09: 14
          Remember from history how the ancient priests pacified popular riots, knowing the cyclical nature of solar eclipses. The same thing happens with demographics. The authorities know the demographic cycles and easily manipulate this knowledge. He outlines a program to protect the health of the nation, and then reports on what has been done, knowing the result in advance. However, this provision should not be perceived that nothing depended on the state. Of course! But downhill and pushing is easier.
      2. +3
        14 June 2016 19: 12
        Quote: kalibr
        There is an interesting work on this subject: Kapitsa SP, World demographic crisis and Russia. In Sat: The Future of Russia. Challenges and projects: History. Demography. The science. Defense / Ed. G.G. Malinetsky, M., Librocom, 2009

        Our respected professor S.P. Kapitsa, for those who did not know, was a member of the Club of Rome (a bad sharashka like the Trilateral Commission or the Bilderberg Club) and carried out tasks and assignments from him. With all due respect, but this is a fact.
  4. +9
    14 June 2016 06: 38
    Soon I will count and how many times do Russians go to the toilet
    1. 0
      19 June 2016 17: 06
      Quote: azer
      Soon I will count and how many times do Russians go to the toilet


      ))) How many times the toilet handle is pulled))
  5. +15
    14 June 2016 06: 51
    And I remember how Western analysts drooled, saying that by the 30th year Russians will already have less than 100 million.
    I understand their disappointment: well, again, they made a mistake regarding Russia.
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 11: 24
      Quote: Holsten
      And I remember how Western analysts drooled, saying that by the 30th year Russians will already have less than 100 million.
      I understand their disappointment: well, again, they made a mistake regarding Russia.

      He recalled the old bearded Soviet joke: Ah, you, didn’t try to poison them with dust? laughing
    2. 0
      14 June 2016 16: 27
      Quote: Holsten
      And I remember how Western analysts drooled, saying that by the 30th year Russians will already have less than 100 million.
      I understand their disappointment: well, again, they made a mistake regarding Russia.

      We won’t wait, we will survive all, for the Truth and the Russian spirit are behind us, based on justice, humanity and traditional Christian values!
      1. 0
        15 June 2016 01: 17
        traditional Christian values!
        Prayer, fasting and radio Radonezh ...
  6. +3
    14 June 2016 06: 55
    Sociological studies show that the higher the country's well-being, the lower the birth rate.
    1. +4
      14 June 2016 09: 48
      Quote: RexMVDshny
      Sociological studies show that the higher the country's well-being, the lower the birth rate.

      As with any rule, there are exceptions. For example, the USA and Israel, the welfare of countries is high and the birth rate is high.

      Quote: koksalek
      A crowd of homosexuals with fagots are at a loss as to how a man and a woman have children, and even surpassed their most "developed" gayrope. Oh well

      Do you want to compare America? Oh well

      Quote: Serge Boss
      A friend gave birth to twins on 9.06, a friend gives birth to a friend at the end of the month! Fertility is on the rise, at the playgrounds congestion! from the kids!
      Tolerasts will not wait for the death of our Great and Mighty country!

      Your buddies are certainly an indicator. wink but in Russia as a whole, the birth rate is 11.6 per 1000 people, which is 169th in the world. It is between Barbados and Macedonia. Mortality in Russia 13.69.
      By the way, for the reproduction of the population, more than 2 children per woman are needed. You have 1.61 (179th in the world).

      Quote: Volodin Alexey
      It is encouraging that for 4 year before the end of this program, some goals set by the state have already been achieved. In particular, the Ministry of Health planned to reduce infant mortality rates to 6,4 (for 1000 born) by 2020. As it was said in the material above, for the first 4 months of the current year this indicator is fixed at the mark of 6,1.

      And then Russia will take the honorable 164th place between Gibraltar and the Siamese islands. In Germany, this figure is 3.43, in Israel 3.55.

      Quote: Volodin Alexey
      A very ambitious task is the state to bring life expectancy in Russia to 74,3 years to the year 2020 mentioned. At the moment, this figure is 71,4 of the year.

      And then the "honorable" 148th place, between Ukraine and Iran? Is this the ultimate dream? Japan is the second largest in the world with a life expectancy of 84.74 years. Even in Chile 78.61.

      It is necessary to set more ambitious goals and seek to achieve them.
      1. +3
        14 June 2016 15: 29
        Quote: professor
        As with any rule, there are exceptions. For example, the USA and Israel, the welfare of countries is high and the birth rate is high.

        I don’t know about you, in Israel, but in the United States the main population growth is provided not by the white population - blacks and Hispanics - immigrants from Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Ricans. We have the same crap. The birth rate in the North Caucasian republics is off the charts, and in the "European" regions - wherever these regions are located - is very low. And if somewhere you need to stimulate the birth rate, then not in the North Caucasus ...
        Quote: professor
        It is necessary to set more ambitious goals and seek to achieve them.

        good I fully support you! hi
        1. +1
          14 June 2016 17: 23
          Quote: andj61
          I don’t know how you have it, in Israel, but in the USA the main population growth is provided by the non-white population - blacks and Hispanics - immigrants from Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Ricans.

          You are mistaken. Most of America is religious and lives in two-story cottages. They go to church and rarely leave their town. They breed and multiply. My American colleagues have three, four children, and they are never Mexicans or Negroes.

          Quote: andj61
          We have the same crap. The birth rate in the North Caucasian republics is off scale, and in the "European" regions - wherever these regions are located - is very low. And if somewhere you need to stimulate the birth rate, then not in the North Caucasus ...

          And they are second-class citizens and their large number is not welcome? Just kidding, just kidding ... I know everything. wink
          1. 0
            15 June 2016 08: 53
            Quote: professor
            Most of America is religious and lives in two-story cottages.

            Not the main, but less than a third ...
            Quote: professor
            My American colleagues have three, four children, and they are never Mexicans or Negroes.

            I have four children, my friends - many have three, but mostly, of course, two. And we are never Mexicans and not blacks. feel And even the Caucasians .. wink And not the Jews ... crying
            Quote: professor
            And they are second-class citizens and their large number is not welcome?
            No, all Europeans, Yakuts, Chukchi, etc., simply have to stimulate the birth rate, but they don’t need it: everything is fine. And Russia is strong in its national diversity. In Israel, even for Arabs loyal to the state - Druze, Maronites, Bedouins, there is also no need to stimulate fertility ... feel
            1. -1
              15 June 2016 09: 21
              Quote: andj61
              Not the main, but less than a third ...

              Yah?
              Here are statistics on the number of residents per home in the United States.
              http://www.statista.com/statistics/183648/average-size-of-households-in-the-us/

              Here are the 10 most popular homes.
              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/15/popular-home-styles_n_6460034.html

              Quote: andj61
              I have four children, my friends - many have three, but mostly, of course, two. And we are never Mexicans and not blacks. And even the Caucasians ..


              Now attention. Gap template. Only for you. wink
              Number of children in an American family as a function of race and ethnicity:
              http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/05/07/family-size-among-mothers/

              Spaniards 2.6 baby on mother
              Black 2.5
              White 2.3
              Asians 2.2
              1. +1
                15 June 2016 14: 38
                Quote: professor
                Now attention. Gap template. Only for you.

                good I did not know, to be honest ... request
                I was not in the States, and I can only judge by the words of a few acquaintances, mostly Jews, by the way feel who all live in big cities, but according to students - children of friends who were there on student programs during the holidays.
                And so - about breaking the template - that's right. Well, okay, they are some kind of Mormons, or Catholics, but that for the most part - you really can’t block any white ethnic groups.
                Since the days of the USSR, I remember that the simple reproduction of the population is 2,3 children per woman. In the USSR - taking into account the Caucasus and Central Asia - there were even more. But we are very far from this indicator. And the leadership of the country, unfortunately, only indicates concern, but very little is really done.
                1. 0
                  15 June 2016 14: 54
                  Quote: andj61
                  I was not in the States, and I can only judge by the words of a few acquaintances, mostly Jews, by the way, who all live in big cities, and according to the students, children of friends who were there on student programs during the holidays.

                  I have been to the United States 200 times (just kidding, at least 20). I will never forget the first time I flew to Miami. Then the GPS was not yet available and I printed out the path from the airport to Hollywood in advance where they were waiting for me. It was night. The first problem was that they didn’t give the car for rent at the airport itself, but in the industrial zone next to it where the shuttle from the airport takes you. I took the car, but I don’t know where to go. It was necessary to first return to the airport since the path was printed from the airport. I twisted a couple of hours next to the fence. Egyptian darkness and no living soul. Finally I see a police car standing. I stop and ask how to get to the airport. Police zero reaction, do not understand. I am so and so with and without accent. He does not understand. Finally it dawned on me that I wanted him and he in spanish and waving his arms begins to explain to me how to get there. Only by his gestures and keywords "to the right" and to the left "(I didn't know much more in Spanish), I understood how to get out of this industrial zone and get to the airport. Relatives in Miami (their native language is Spanish by the way) then spoke me: "This is Miami, baby." wink

                  Quote: andj61
                  Since the days of the USSR, I remember that the simple reproduction of the population is 2,3 children per woman.

                  The bourgeoisie this figure is 2.15. There is less child mortality.

                  Quote: andj61
                  And the leadership of the country, unfortunately, only indicates concern, but very little is really done.

                  The train is about to leave. Look at the histogram of the Russian population.


          2. 0
            16 June 2016 00: 31
            Do not embellish.
            The positive statistics of the white population in the USA are drawn numbers.
            Large cities in the United States - they are the economy of the country and not in the towns of 2000-10000 people. population. So these large cities are rapidly "turning brown" and "blackening" and the white population in these cities is declining. Black and brown are not able to work and create - a fact.
            Ultimately, all major US cities will become Detroit.
      2. +1
        14 June 2016 19: 35
        Quote: professor
        As with any rule, there are exceptions. For example, the USA and Israel, the welfare of countries is high and the birth rate is high.

        Professor, I was yours. The locals complained that it was necessary to keep the haredim at their own expense (it seems). And they just multiply, and the rest are not very keen on having more than 2 children in the family.
        You have a haredim as pious Muslims in our northern Caucasus, the process is the same, put it in - took it out - gave birth ...
        1. 0
          14 June 2016 19: 53
          Quote: ImPerts
          Professor, I was yours. The locals complained that it was necessary to keep the haredim at their own expense (it seems). And they just multiply, and the rest are not very keen on having more than 2 children in the family.

          Not certainly in that way. Most orthodoxy works, but everyone loves to hate them. Consensus. Secular women have more than 2 children. An exception may be Tel Aviv.
          I live on the periphery and there are no religious neighbors. So the neighbor has 6 children against, on the left 5, on the right 3, through house 4. Only two neighbors have 2 children. About the same situation at work. Three four children in a family. And this despite the fact that raising children in Israel is very expensive.

          By the way, the birth rate among Orthodox and Bedouins fell dramatically when Bibi first became the prime minister. The freebie broke off a bit. wink

          Quote: ImPerts
          You have a haredim as pious Muslims in our northern Caucasus, the process is the same, put it in - took it out - gave birth ...

          Well, the Bible clearly says: be fruitful and multiply. laughing
  7. +11
    14 June 2016 07: 08
    A crowd of homosexuals with fagots are at a loss as to how a man and a woman have children, and even surpassed their most "developed" gayrope. Oh well
  8. +1
    14 June 2016 07: 14
    The West shows its true face - the desire to die out the entire population of Russia, and they wonder why their plan did not work.
  9. +3
    14 June 2016 07: 15
    All analytics in the West are built on an erroneous principle. They take the desired result and customize facts and actions. Therefore, they are mistaken. Naturally, not all analysts do this. But those who give out the truth, either quit or work in places where this information is distributed among a narrow circle of limited people.
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 07: 42
      The principle of 80 and 20 just works.
      1. +1
        14 June 2016 11: 49
        20% of the effort gives 80% of the result ?!
        I would say the opposite, 80% of the effort gives 20% of the result, and the rest is how it goes ...
  10. +2
    14 June 2016 07: 18
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Aw, who else believes that the West brings us prosperity democracy?

    Unfortunately, there are still enough of them. Many surnames are well-known: Nadezhdin, Ryzhkov, Gozman and a whole cohort of their associates and the so-called "liberal" (or rather anti-Russian) media, which do not care about real results, the main thing is to pour out more dirt and please yourself "beloved". That's who it is high time to cleanse ourselves.
    And the decrease in mortality and the increase in fertility are pleasing, as any sane resident of our country should be pleased.
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 07: 33
      This, I beg your pardon, Caula doesn't believe. She paid generously.
    2. +1
      14 June 2016 08: 14
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Nadezhdin, Ryzhkov, Gozman

      The answer is simple - they are not Russian.
  11. +9
    14 June 2016 07: 39
    As a "young grandfather" I report: in Yekaterinburg, a "baby boom" is really being observed. Yes The number of kids walking in parks, kindergartens and playgrounds is simply impressive good .
    1. +7
      14 June 2016 08: 19
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      As a "young grandfather" I report:

      And he decided to sit aside? wink I've been pouting for you all. True, some girls turn out. crying Well, it doesn’t work out with quality - add up. laughing
      Proveet Yu ... Poluekt Yuryevich! wink
      1. +3
        14 June 2016 08: 36
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And he decided to sit aside?

        Yes, after it you have to redo it.
        1. +3
          14 June 2016 09: 29
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, after it you have to redo it.

          belay
          You this sad ... Look: who are you crushing a loaf of! am And then I will redo angry .
          Hello, blue! drinks
          Quote: andj61
          I welcome you, Igor and the Urals partisan retired!

          Welcome, dear! drinks Nice to talk with you! hi And then there is young growth alone negative ... life has not yet been seen request , and already run over sad ...
      2. +7
        14 June 2016 08: 55
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        As a "young grandfather" I report:
        And he decided to sit aside? I've been pouting for you all. True, some girls turn out.

        Nothing - I only got girls, too, but in the end I got my way: 16 years ago, and the boy happened, however, also with the girl. laughing Apparently, without this in any way. request So I have four in total. And a couple of grandchildren!
        I welcome you, Igor and the Urals partisan retired! hi
      3. +3
        14 June 2016 09: 23
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I've been pouting for you all.
        Yes, I’ve taken a break. And even already blown away ... recourse
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        True, some girls turn out.
        what
        Single and bullet go. But it is necessary with queues, queues Yes ... Hello, having many children! drinks
        1. +3
          14 June 2016 10: 04
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          But it is necessary with queues, queues

          Pulnul already, we are waiting for the targets with the results to arrive! wink
          Quote: andj61
          So I have four in total.
          I'll catch up at the end of the year! drinks
          1. +3
            14 June 2016 11: 07
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            I'll catch up at the end of the year!

            That's right - to victory, that is, you need to shoot before the kid! good drinksMaybe, like mine, two will work out right away ... feel
            At the same time and overtake succeed! good bully
            1. +2
              14 June 2016 12: 24
              Quote: andj61
              That's right - to victory, that is, you need to shoot before the kid!

              Correctly Yes . True, my friend (the deceased already unfortunately ...) shot 9 times ... sad
              1. 0
                14 June 2016 19: 22
                Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                Shot 9 times ...

  12. +7
    14 June 2016 07: 43
    The people do not die because they want to see how the sanctions story ends.
  13. +4
    14 June 2016 08: 08
    A friend gave birth to twins on 9.06, a friend gives birth to a friend at the end of the month! Fertility is on the rise, at the playgrounds congestion! from the kids!
    Tolerasts will not wait for the death of our Great and Mighty country!
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 08: 35
      What prolific friends you have. Too shy to ask what places you are from. We have congestion from representatives of non-Slavic ethnic groups. It's time to learn oriental languages ​​or bring down somewhere in the taiga
      1. +6
        14 June 2016 09: 21
        And do not be shy, from Peter I and my whole family. And what do ethnic groups bother you? You do not forget that the Russian Federation is a multinational country and for fomenting ... you really can leave for the taiga. And learning languages ​​is good for the brain hi
        1. +1
          14 June 2016 10: 54
          Quote: Serge Boss
          And do not be shy, from Peter I and my whole family. And what do ethnic groups bother you? You do not forget that the Russian Federation is a multinational country and for fomenting ... you really can leave for the taiga. And learning languages ​​is good for the brain hi

          Figase. Yes, it’s not about Kindle speech, but about elementary security. And national identity.
          In Kazakhstan, recently Russians refused a pharmacy because of their lack of knowledge of Kazakh.
          And then, it is strange that you are not interested in the issues of your personal employment in the light of competition with ethnic groups that have not had any relation to our long-suffering multinational homeland.
          1. 0
            14 June 2016 11: 20
            I am interested in the issues of raising my children and their subsequent employment; I do not worry a bit about the competition of my employment, in the area where I work ethnic groups are competitors only to movers. And what is happening in other countries is not my business, it is my business to put in place a pernicious ethnic group if its behavior goes beyond the norm and morality in my glorious city on the Neva.
            1. +2
              14 June 2016 12: 00
              Quote: Serge Boss
              I am interested in the issues of raising my children and their subsequent employment; I do not worry a bit about the competition of my employment, in the area where I work ethnic groups are competitors only to movers. And what is happening in other countries is not my business, it is my business to put in place a pernicious ethnic group if its behavior goes beyond the norm and morality in my glorious city on the Neva.

              That is, you are selfish and think exclusively about your well-being.
              I am forced to disappoint you by the way. Quite a lot of doctors, for example, and not just loaders, and there’s nothing to say about the management sphere, there will soon be the majority.
              1. +1
                14 June 2016 17: 49

                That is, you are selfish and think exclusively about your well-being.
                I have to disappoint you by the way


                Perfectly identified. An egoist who does not realize that "outsiders" lower the salary bar for everyone, even pimps. The more people shy away from work, the lower the price of their labor, even if he is an astronaut ..

                Then one friend told how they tried in England with their cargo arrows and their crew to unload their cargo ship during a dockers strike .... laughing The police, by the way, did not intervene ... They brought the "stamp" of proletarian solidarity on their mugs.
  14. +1
    14 June 2016 08: 09
    Quote: azer
    Soon I will count and how many times do Russians go to the toilet

    Already counted while the quantity. They said that the Russians weren’t eating up, though quantitatively, but I didn’t see the analysis on the quality of the food, it seems that the customs did not release samples.
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 08: 38
      Quote: avg-mgn
      They said that the Russians didn’t eat up, but quantitatively,

      Probably means that they are malnourished and there is a lot left on the plates laughing
      Quote: avg-mgn
      , but I didn’t see an analysis of the quality of food

      What does quality mean? Do you have borscht sour?
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 09: 11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Probably means that they are malnourished and there is a lot left on the plates

        And the fact that they don’t eat up - then they eat it, and even a little happens ... laughing
        1. +3
          14 June 2016 09: 17
          Quote: andj61
          And the fact that they don’t eat up - then they eat it, and even a little happens ...

          So for this, you also have to pay for those who eat recourse Khrenova live laughing
          1. 0
            14 June 2016 15: 34
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            So for this, you also have to pay the one who eats Khrenova live

            Damn, how did it come to my mind - to provide such services ?! what It’s interesting, but in addition to eating up, there is a finish? After all, this is the same bonanza - and is full, and drunk, and nose in tobacco! laughing
  15. 0
    14 June 2016 08: 56
    The Americans and Western fascists are working inward. First of all, they poison the youth with the propaganda of their "way of life." What will happen in 5-10 years? Most likely, the boomerang will return to the US and the EU.
  16. +3
    14 June 2016 09: 10
    At least 250-300 million Russians should live in our territory, and this should be a priority for our leadership. And this is for you the development of the territory, and the development of the economy and the rise of the prestige of our country. But this requires a sane leadership and a patriotic executive apparatus, and not an iPhone at the sight of an airplane that declared "cool." Are you a teenager or what?
  17. +3
    14 June 2016 09: 10
    For some reason, the author forgot to indicate the factor of maternal capital for the birth of a second or more children. This is certainly not a lot, but still.
  18. 0
    14 June 2016 09: 16
    Do not wait! am
  19. +2
    14 June 2016 09: 36
    Euro statistics are still the science 'the governments of the EU countries deceive each other about the size of their population. You will drive through the cities of Europe and be surprised - you will not see children and mothers with kalyaska, but there are a lot of empty houses! That's all sociology with demography! Europe is aging rapidly!
  20. mihasik
    +1
    14 June 2016 09: 40
    drop atomic bombs of "democracy" for greater efficiency ...

    Doesn't it seem that in Russia the very name "democracy" causes a gag reflex among the population?) But ... the mice cried, injected, but continued to eat "cactus" ...
  21. +1
    14 June 2016 09: 50
    Do not wait!
  22. +1
    14 June 2016 10: 02
    I don’t know how it is with reporting ..... but due to a lot of economic problems among young people (constant decrease in wages with rising prices, unemployment, etc.), at least in the North-West of the country (probably Peter’s exception) the birth rate in the coming year - two, will plummet.
  23. +1
    14 June 2016 10: 09
    How poorly the West predicts Russia, it is always mistaken.
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 21: 53
      atamankko
      How poorly the West predicts Russia, it is always mistaken.

      Ha! The West "does not forecast badly" Russia, but it deliberately deceives it - misinforms. Foreign services know more and more accurately about us in Russia than you think. Ask: why? This means that the West needs it that way. This is hybrid warfare.
  24. +2
    14 June 2016 10: 14
    Quote: ruAlex
    Do not wait!

    YES!!!
  25. Erg
    +4
    14 June 2016 10: 21
    It is not necessary, though, to lie to ourselves, relying on "statistics". I have my own "statistical research" which does not require absolutely any funding - I just look at the people around me - neighbors, acquaintances, acquaintances, relatives, etc. And I see that the material level of all of them is falling. Children give birth less than our parents. All! I live in Moscow. region
  26. +4
    14 June 2016 10: 30
    Demography is our front line, each family has three children at least. From my own experience I can say that one child is simply unbearable, two are simply difficult, and three is something surprising, this is a self-adjusting organization that does not require control, only adjustment during the day, so do not piss, give birth to everyone.
  27. Erg
    +3
    14 June 2016 10: 30
    And not much more about "statistics". The other day I walked with my spouse around the neighborhood - so in fifty percent we did not understand the speech of those passing by ... No, I certainly understand that we are all Russia ...
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 10: 59
      Quote: Erg
      And not much more about "statistics". The other day I walked with my spouse around the neighborhood - so in fifty percent we did not understand the speech of those passing by ... No, I certainly understand that we are all Russia ...

      Here I am about that.
      But SeregaBoss threatens to imprison him for fomenting.
      In addition, Russia is far from all of us, crowding the streets on weekdays.
  28. +2
    14 June 2016 10: 44
    Yeah x ghouls at them am My second granddaughter will be born in September smile
  29. 0
    14 June 2016 10: 54
    Well, what kind of partnership can we talk about, if they wait they will not wait when we die out angry It is clear that everything is not so good with us, but why so much gloating? You might think that everything is top-level there, they would rather look after their own than climb into someone else's garden.
  30. +2
    14 June 2016 11: 14
    Dear, there was growth, and this is a fact until 2015, now the fertility has declined again and this is the same fact and the main thing is the deterioration of the economic situation. For health, this is a separate issue, but the fact that the failure there is already clear to everyone, in March the president reported and gave instructing the head of the Ministry of Health on reform adjustment. Further, mortality again, the situation is not entirely true and they already wrote about it. It all comes down to targeted assistance, but the mechanism of this assistance is not worked out, people don’t even know about benefits, not about the existence of the program.
  31. +1
    14 June 2016 11: 27
    so we got to our demographics, right now they will impose sanctions on those who have 3 or more children fool
  32. 0
    14 June 2016 11: 50
    Why they are surprised, NATO did not send troops to us, and the birth rate has increased. Another thing is in the Baltic states, soon there will be nowhere to put children!
  33. +1
    14 June 2016 11: 56
    Hopefully the trend will progress.
    Among the goals: anti-smoking and anti-alcohol.

    It is one thing to reduce the volume of drunk pure alcohol per person, it is another thing to improve the quality of the drunk alcohol.
    For example, the practice of reducing the volume of low alcohol bottles works great. In addition, it is worth removing from the sale all sorts of necks, jaguars, etc. They seem to be a drop in the ocean in relation to strong alcohol, but they kill much more efficiently.

    And it is imperative to conduct an anti-abortion campaign. This is an extremely important factor. To persuade, help with advice, because making an abortion decision is an emotional act. It is necessary to show the situation from the side, to point out all the factors that will prevent this terrible act. It used to be like doctors even encouraged for the number of abortions - sadness and sadness!
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  35. 0
    14 June 2016 12: 03
    Russian demographic indicators puzzled Western "partners"
    Let these (Western, now most) (21) break from anger or wear! And yes, we need to work on these indicators for the country!
  36. 0
    14 June 2016 12: 24
    If now you can pass the analysis to a couple and find out whether children or healthy children can appear. (I don’t know, of course, that they don’t kill us ... we will give money to a big city ...) but this is a step towards selection and we should strive for it.
  37. 0
    14 June 2016 12: 31
    They began to drink and smoke less because it is useless to rely on Russian healthcare. You just understand - if you start to get sick, it is expensive to be treated and you have forgotten how to treat it (even the elderly doctors are "about nothing"). And they will also be kicked out of work (they will find a reason) because who needs you sick. Where in Russia the treatment conditions are improved is the great secret of the "Kremlin court". In any case, there is only one "talking shop" in central Russia. In reality, the number of medical institutions is decreasing and the waiting lists are growing.
  38. +1
    14 June 2016 12: 32
    The article lacks statistics on mortality — gender, age, cause of death (preferably nationality), and all this in the regions of our vast country. Here, in my opinion, it will be both interesting and creepy. And in such a context, as described in the article, there can be no talk of any analysis of the demographic situation in the country as a whole. I generally am silent about the regions, each has its own characteristics.
  39. +2
    14 June 2016 12: 35
    In the organization to which I have some relation, a doctor from Vinnitsa works. He hates everything Russian, and from one type of the Russian military, it disturbs her. Does not hide his feelings. This is our demographic increase due to the migration factor.
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 13: 48
      Quote: Beefeater
      Beefeater Today, 12:35
      In the organization to which I have some relation, a doctor from Vinnitsa works. He hates everything Russian, and from one type of the Russian military, it disturbs her. Does not hide his feelings. This is our demographic increase due to the migration factor.


      Really curious. And what does she say on occasion on this subject, if not secret? Vinnitsa is a pretty good and cozy town. I myself am from there, close by, from Khmelnikov. At one time it was an all-Union resort. And he also had a similar meeting. In 1982 at the sanatorium there. Only that guy was from Saransk. Well expressed ugly, well, in a boorish and buggy! Actually to the host and treating and serving him, to the local population. On all topics, one negative! Indescribable! And to our local public and staff --- disrespectfully, contemptuously! Some only looked at him in bewilderment. Even I was snubbed, even though I was then deeply Soviet. And it seems like that quite normal man was, not already his first youth, about 45 years old. In fact, on a visit and so to speak! What’s due to the migration factor? Do you think that those from Vinnitsa, they are far behind those from Samarkand? Well, then --- you did not explain when the doctor migrated? In 1984, I graduated from my Vinnitsa honey and got into your places by distribution?
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 15: 40
        Quote: svelto
        neoplasms

        Doctor 28 years old.
        Studied in Russia. In Ukraine, they said that Russian education does not suit them, it is necessary to retrain. Or finish your local residency. The Russians are to blame. Very dissatisfied with the fact that not everywhere they take it. In terms of work. Once she was learned here, they are obliged to provide work that she likes best. Well, of course, everything is better in Ukraine and Russia, the aggressor, is killing the right Ukrainian boys. Hence the hatred of our military. She told all this to my wife who is also with a Ukrainian passport. And the wife betrayed - it is necessary, but in fact they lived in the same country with her. Now again in one country. But in another. In which Maidan has not happened. But it is bound to happen with such settlers.
        1. +4
          14 June 2016 15: 55
          In the organization to which I have some relation, a doctor from Vinnitsa works. Hates everything Russian


          I recognize compatriots))) Say hello and notify that in Lugansk hospitals (now) are treated for free, even coronary artery bypass surgery.
        2. +2
          14 June 2016 18: 08
          Yeah, but there are also refugees (in general, patriots and supporters of the "brotherhood" minus, and do not care), in Novosibirsk: give us a job and a salary of at least 30 thousand (at the moment the average in the hospital was 24, and thirty is not so and bad), and housing, you owe us, because it was you who unleashed the war. That's it.
          So let the "brothers" deal with their own authorities there.
      2. +2
        14 June 2016 16: 03
        And to our local public and staff --- disrespectfully, contemptuously!


        "Put the pig on the wall and feet on the glass."
        I remember how in 10 minutes they made an extract and threw nah. from the hospital of a former soldier-internationalist, who sent 3 letters of a medical practitioner at the Institute of Traumatology named after Sitenko in Kharkov, and rightly so.
  40. +5
    14 June 2016 14: 03
    Come on! My son was born !!!
  41. +1
    14 June 2016 14: 06
    Fucked and will fuck! You give an increase in the population of Russia: for every adult human unit - two human babies !!!
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 14: 47
      Quote: Pyohar
      Pyokhar Today, 14:06 New
      Fucked and will fuck! You give an increase in the population of Russia: for every adult human unit - two human babies !!!


      Yes, 7,75 babies per fertility girl! Some Niger near the Sahara can, but we can’t ?! From today! And after 20 years, catch up and overtake!
  42. 0
    14 June 2016 17: 14
    No wonder! Problems cause a terrible excitement turning into a stormy sekas! laughing
  43. 0
    14 June 2016 17: 39
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    How do you "love" us! . to your! Who else believes that the West brings prosperity to democracy for us?

    only the West itself + liberals of all stripes and sexual shades!
  44. +1
    14 June 2016 17: 51
    The main thing now is not to let police provocateurs with drugs near these children, but to drive out the "ravshans" in order to free up jobs for the parents of these children, these children will win the "third world war."
  45. +2
    14 June 2016 18: 04
    the Englishman is not aware that the euro is not capable of reproduction (AND THANKS TO GOD !!!)
    and Russians do not share such European "values." That's the whole secret. Fuck each other in the ass, you scum.
  46. 0
    14 June 2016 20: 39
    Quote: andj61
    The birth rate in the North Caucasian republics is off scale, and in the "European" regions - wherever these regions are located - is very low. And if somewhere you need to stimulate the birth rate, then not in the North Caucasus ...

    Forgive me cynicism, but even with such infant mortality, everything will be fine — the region is traditionally large and the population is growing. Yes, and the figure does not exceed the average for Russia many times. But the figure for Chukotka and Jewish Autonomous Okrug is unsettled , there they must fight for each child, but mortality exceeds the average 3-4,5 times! recourse
    And yet, indicators of alcohol consumption. Yes, the decrease pleases (on paper). Of course, the price of vodka was set at 250 rubles. drugstore "dope" - aseptolin, hawthorn
    and much more ?? Whoever drinks with us is drinking IT! And the alcohol departments are empty. I think the statistics need to be fixed! drinks hi
  47. +2
    14 June 2016 21: 13
    Forget the men. 14 June 1995 year. Budenovsk!
    This should not happen again. to click.
  48. 0
    14 June 2016 22: 35
    Do not wait.
  49. 0
    14 June 2016 22: 43
    Quote: Bort Radist
    Forget the men. 14 June 1995 year. Budenovsk!
    This should not happen again. to click.

    In Russia, it is now "not in the trend" to talk about the Chechen wars, like they are our president's first friends and support. Over the bridge in St. Petersburg gathered in honor of the father of the current Chechen Khan to rename.

    But for me - having such friends and enemies is not necessary. Russia sipped so much grief with these non-peaceful parts of the Caucasus that it will be enough for a long time.
  50. 0
    14 June 2016 23: 09
    It's just that in Russia, sorry "fuck" women, not men's asses. Bohemia, power structures and other liberal forces in their numbers are vanishingly small to influence the performance indicators.
  51. 0
    15 June 2016 03: 33
    In Siberia, in the courtyards of children, you look out the window 2 - 3 strollers in the “frame”. There are not enough places in the first classes, but with places it should be the other way around. Kindergartens - increased the number of children in the group to 25 children, the problem has been partially solved. A new block has been built, apartments are not selling well - “in the future there will be construction of a school.” I would like to ask - who was it built for? for the rainbow ones?
  52. 0
    15 June 2016 05: 46
    “Do you still think that we live badly here? Then we are coming to you!”
  53. +1
    15 June 2016 19: 07
    Quote: Beefeater
    Figase. Yes, it’s not about Kindle speech, but about elementary security. And national identity.

    One Austrian artist also began his career with such mutually exclusive theses. Ended badly, by the way. Instead of emphasizing their nationality, it would be better to understand the issue of migrants “taking away” jobs from the indigenous population. Who is promoting this? In whose interests are migrants brought in and hired for pennies? And why doesn’t the state do a damn thing about this, although it regularly hits itself in the chest with its heel?
  54. +1
    15 June 2016 21: 34
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    America has long been counting how many WASPs are left there - indigenous, according to the official ideology, Americans, originating from the “founding fathers” (ha ha! - also, by the way, a close group of men...)

    In the US, the birth rate is fine. And more than 70% of the population is white. In Russia, alas, it’s worse, but it will get better.
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  56. +1
    16 June 2016 02: 17
    Hello everyone. Can I see a link to the Forbes article above?

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