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Baltic States and Poland intend to create a regional air defense

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Poland and the Baltic countries are discussing the possibility of creating a regional air defense system, which the parties would like to commission in a year through 2-3, reports RT With reference to the head of the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania Juozas Olekas.


Baltic States and Poland intend to create a regional air defense


“We are negotiating with representatives of Estonia, Latvia and Poland on the creation of a regional air defense system”,
said Olekas.

As the newspaper notes, this issue was raised in connection with the "build-up of Russian troops" on the borders with the EU.

Earlier, the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Igor Konashenkov, stated that “the deployment of Iskander missile systems in the western military district of Russia does not contradict any international agreements or agreements”.
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  1. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 13 June 2016 11: 16
    +13
    They scare each other, and then cheer each other up, masochists ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 June 2016 11: 19
      +7
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      They scare each other and then cheer each other up.


      The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all
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      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 13 June 2016 11: 25
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all
        And the third question is that the Pshek sprats don’t hope for NATO.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 June 2016 11: 47
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          donuts with sprats do not hope for NATO.


          They hope, but the maintenance of the bases is very expensive for the local people. It is clear that it is profitable to sell tanks in tanks.
          1. cniza
            cniza 13 June 2016 12: 12
            +5
            How much can one be afraid of one’s own shadow and what is a regional missile defense system?
            1. Alf
              Alf 13 June 2016 20: 03
              0
              Quote: cniza
              and what is a regional missile defense system
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        2. Arkuda
          Arkuda 13 June 2016 12: 37
          +1
          In my opinion, the provocation is just around the corner, they want to repeat the Turkish gambit, madmen ...
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 13 June 2016 13: 23
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Quote: Vadivak
          The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all
          And the third question is that the Pshek sprats don’t hope for NATO.

          Most likely it’s not convenient for one to kneel before the Americans, because you have to beg for it, but if you pick up the whole company ............... laughing
      3. Ros 56
        Ros 56 13 June 2016 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        it turns out that they had no air defense at all


        The most interesting thing is not that it was not, but that it will not. laughing
      4. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 13 June 2016 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: RUSIVAN
        They scare each other and then cheer each other up.


        The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all

        Well, now they will fold and buy one used Patriot laughing
      5. ARS56
        ARS56 13 June 2016 13: 02
        +2
        Poland with tribals create a fund to help their warriors:
        "Air Defense - Help! Military Done"
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    3. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 13 June 2016 11: 21
      +5
      Already created laughing
    4. CORNET
      CORNET 13 June 2016 11: 21
      0
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      They scare each other, and then cheer each other up, masochists ...

      laughing bully And one result will still be ... As always in our history!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 13 June 2016 11: 27
        +3
        Poland and Baltic countries discuss the possibility of creating a regional air defense system

        To the Russophobia complex, do you want to add air defense systems? sad
    5. Finches
      Finches 13 June 2016 11: 34
      +5
      Let them create! The Balts already live in poverty, but here they want something high-tech to build from the field of weapons - expensive to manufacture and maintain ... Or do they hope that the Anglo-Saxons will become sponsors? Even if we assume that they will find money, then for the construction of such a complex system, a school is needed - a designer, an engineer, workers, industrial facilities that are not there, etc. In short, this is another shake of air to justify finding oneself in office and no more ... well, of course, once again emphasize about "aggressive" Russia! Although, however, in these non-states, any speech by an official, even about the work of a sewage bag must end with a spit in our direction, otherwise daddy will cut his money ... laughing

      Although, seriously speaking, there is already a normal heap in the ABM plan! A military radar is being built in the Audrinsky volost of the Daugavpils region. In the region of the town of Rezekne, 53 km from the Russian border. Near the village of Audriny, a powerful newest three-dimensional air tracking radar TPS-117 has already been installed, for detecting fast and small targets, incl. ballistic and cruise missiles at a range of up to 1000 km and an altitude of more than 20 km. ... This crap "covers" our territory in the Borovichi - Vyshny Volochok - Rzhev - Roslavl sector ... So I would not be surprised if these conversations are being conducted at the suggestion of the Pentagon to build up its ABM and air defense forces in this region, only under the flags of local slaves!
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 14: 08
        +2
        Zyablitsov (3) RU Today, 11:34 ↑

        This crap "covers" our territory in the Borovichi - Vyshny Volochok - Rzhev - Roslavl sector ... So I would not be surprised if these conversations are being conducted at the suggestion of the Pentagon to build up its ABM and air defense forces in this region, only under the flags of local slaves!
        --------------
        It is unlikely that the Pentagon would serve, there would be a desire for the Pentagon - the Balts in URA picked up.
        so the usual hysteria of the Pans of the Poles.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 13 June 2016 15: 10
        0
        Most likely, this regional air defense implies the THAAD missile defense system.
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 15: 50
          0
          The original still has:

          Those changes are unlikely to be agreed by Nato allies swiftly. Lt Gen Zukas believes it is part of a process that will unfold over the coming years and would need political sanction from the North Atlantic Council, Nato's principal political decision-making body.
          That may prove difficult. Many within Nato are wavering at the prospect of triggering an escalation in hostilities with Russia, and fear eastern European alliance members are paranoid.


          Some NATO official said more simply - Balts paranoid.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 13 June 2016 11: 47
      +1
      This is already some kind of endless looped tantrum. Fear drives weapons, and weapons reinforce a sense of danger. )) Soon, the children will be distributed with machines in the manger.
    7. brasist
      brasist 13 June 2016 13: 01
      -3
      RUSIVAN (1) RU Today, 11:16 AM New
      They scare each other, and then cheer each other up, masochists ...

      And I kept wondering why almost all of them had a three-day shave, and it turns out they just bristled with fear, although this comes from anger ...
      1. brasist
        brasist 13 June 2016 13: 10
        0
        In how the sprats minus practicing tactics of air defense and you speak weakly to them ...
    8. svp67
      svp67 13 June 2016 13: 53
      +3
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      They scare each other, and then cheer each other up, masochists ...

      Yeah, only the result of these "scares" works against us. The question is, if a "regional air defense" is being created, then against whom is it directed? The answer will apparently be that against Iran and the DPRK. But we perfectly understand who we really are against.
      Note that we do not have agreements with these countries on limiting missile defense issues, which means they can act as they wish, they are not unlimited. Whose technique will they use in creating this air defense system? Even "no need to go to a fortune-teller," the answer is clear - American. Many may say that they have no money for this, but something tells me that the United States will "shake the machine" and give out everything that is required. As a result, in about three years, a full-fledged air defense zone with elements of missile defense will be created at our western border. I do not think it is worth saying that, even if not openly, it will FULLY enter into the US global air defense system.
  2. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 13 June 2016 11: 17
    +3
    “We are negotiating with representatives of Estonia, Latvia and Poland on the creation of a regional air defense system”

    The main thing is that their air defense was not like their own intelligence! laughing
    1. nazar_0753
      nazar_0753 13 June 2016 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: Grandson of Veteran

      The main thing is that their air defense was not like their own intelligence! laughing

      I think it will be even more fun. Oil painting: "Latvian air defense fighters take off to intercept Russian bombers"
  3. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 13 June 2016 11: 19
    +4
    The hysteria continues. Balts in their spirit fool
  4. gelezo47
    gelezo47 13 June 2016 11: 21
    +5
    It’s interesting that this man’s head besides the Russian threat. Doesn’t he think that the air defense system will really save them in the event of a conflict !?
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 13 June 2016 21: 17
      0
      Quote: gelezo47
      Does he really think that the air defense system will really save them in case of conflict !?

      I think those who vparivayut this air defense all the same will be far away when the thunder strikes. well, and about the locals ... who the natives thinks in a meat grinder.
  5. Safer
    Safer 13 June 2016 11: 27
    +1
    Apparently in the future they will ask to create a couple more stationary NATO missile defense bases. As the General said - Well, everything is so clumsy (s). And why do we need these Balts? Once they have already been "captured", built production facilities and with that left. They shouldn’t be fed up that we’ll go around the second circle. And then we have nowhere to put subsidies ...
  6. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 13 June 2016 11: 27
    +5
    Baltic air defense at work.
  7. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 13 June 2016 11: 34
    0
    The wind blows from overseas. Labushki bred for money. They put them a missile defense system, and now they are laundering money. What can help in the event of a global war? ...
  8. smith7
    smith7 13 June 2016 11: 39
    +2
    Is Polish-Baltic air defense a possible way for some officials to make a fortune? Why not! This is a costly business, the financial flow is significant - the very thing to warm your hands! Ideologically sustained theft is a new trend in NATO. Although, I’m sure that it’s not the first to cover the plunder of the budget with a plausible excuse. Is there really no Polish-Baltic military expert whose voice can be heard able to explain the absurdity of the cost of air defense against Russia?
  9. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 13 June 2016 11: 47
    +1
    As the newspaper notes, this issue was raised in connection with the "build-up of Russian troops" on the borders with the EU.

    Old songs ...
    Nevertheless, the West embodies its cunning plans.
    They sit across the ocean and wage war (so far) with Russia with the wrong hands. It won’t end in good. IMHO
  10. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 13 June 2016 11: 50
    +1
    There is such a concept "lost fear", when they joined NATO they felt that they had caught God by the beard.
  11. sabakina
    sabakina 13 June 2016 12: 14
    +2
    the creation of a regional air defense system, which the parties would like to put into operation within 2-3 years

    After 2-3 years, or they will not be, or them together with the ball ...
  12. faiver
    faiver 13 June 2016 12: 14
    +3
    Yes, let them build, and not only air defense, even build a system of fortified areas, and a coastal defense system, you see, even if they are busy, they can only tremble and can ...
    By the way, in vain the Balts from Poland hobble not in vain; they called her the jackal of Europe - she loves to offend little ...
  13. 31rus2
    31rus2 13 June 2016 12: 23
    +1
    Dear, you are mistaken, these statements are not hysteria, but a clear US plan to create a buffer zone between the EU and Russia, to bring as much weapons as possible to the borders of Russia, to fully control the countries bordering Russia, and displaying this as their request. All this despite to the statements of our politicians, it gives its results (Finland, Montenegro, Sweden a step away from joining NATO), despite all the contradictions in the EU, militarily there is an increase in armed forces along the entire border with Russia.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 13 June 2016 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: 31rus2
      ... a clear US plan to create buffer zone...


      Buffer zone? what What the United States creates even for cheap pornography does not pull No.
      Here it is the buffer zone laughing wink
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 June 2016 12: 24
    +1
    And who will put them all this? An air defense system is not an easy thing. And dangerous, if mistreated, for their own. And for foreigners flying by, inept Baltic anti-aircraft gunners with foreign missiles ... Dill is not an example for them? sprat-haughty. The saying "Matches are not toys for children" do they understand in what language?
  15. Disorder
    Disorder 13 June 2016 12: 31
    0
    Earlier, the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Igor Konashenkov, stated that “the deployment of Iskander missile systems in the western military district of Russia does not contradict any international agreements or agreements”.

    And what can apple-sprat anti-air defense be able to counter Iskanders?
    And what chiches will they build this anti-aircraft defense on?
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 13 June 2016 12: 32
    0
    Bad business is not tricky.
  17. akudr48
    akudr48 13 June 2016 12: 48
    +1
    These dwarfs will first create a regional air defense system, then a regional missile defense system, then add regional air defense systems to them, finally they will unite into a regional UN, etc., etc., until their KGB (obsolete) conducts the corresponding ORM and will forward to the bullpen.
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 13 June 2016 13: 19
    +2
    We got hold of it! But will Obama approve? Whose loaf are being encroached on.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 13 June 2016 13: 25
    +1
    It’s interesting, but to whom, initiator of the Minister of Defense of Lithuania Olekas, is there a rollback, or are there other options already?
  20. shadow
    shadow 13 June 2016 13: 31
    +1
    Yeah, they will shoot down with a slingshot missile. Have seen enough "tower birds".
  21. Res_Ullus
    Res_Ullus 13 June 2016 13: 42
    +2
    As my grandmother used to say about my grandfather (in the eighth decade), I want to eat and there is no urine (with emphasis on the first syllable) laughing
  22. Pitot
    Pitot 13 June 2016 13: 43
    +1
    Not only is a geyropa a geyropa, it’s also a hysterical woman with elements of BDSM. Or just a business ....
  23. yuriy55
    yuriy55 13 June 2016 13: 56
    0
    Although the Baltic states, even Poland, though all NATO taken together No. I always remember:
  24. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 13: 59
    0
    Quote: Observer 33
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    They scare each other and then cheer each other up.


    The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all

    Well, now they will fold and buy one used Patriot laughing


    It seems like the Poles have long wanted to buy a "Patriet". It turns out that the Americans did not deliver.
  25. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 13 June 2016 14: 07
    +9
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    They scare each other and then cheer each other up.


    The question is different - from the statement it turns out that they had no air defense at all


    This is not a question - there was no air defense as such in the Baltic states, several MANPADS are not taken into account. And there was no such task, the Balts themselves have no money, and the "allies", God forgive me, are in no hurry to share. In the fall of 1996, the striped ones offered the Balts to join the Regional Airspace Initiative program, in the Baltics it was called BaltNet - airspace monitoring and integration into Western European air defense. As a result, the United States presented workstations for 40 lyamas, but the radars had to be bought by ourselves. Guess who was the first to hurry up - right, Lockheed Martin Oceanic division. They are the ones who produce the TPS-117, they hoped to sell about a dozen and a half, boyish: 16 lyamas apiece. Lithuanians resisted and started with the modernization of the Soviet legacy; Estonians held a competition and gave themselves to the Americans; Latvians could not even hold a tender, they were mired in disputes like a rollback to cut. When pressed, they accepted the Estonian competition. The installation of radars is still far behind the original plans - there will be no freebies here.
    A sort of early warning system for western Europe. The Estonians did not talk about combat systems at all, they really looked at the situation. The Lithuanians made huge plans. In Latvia in '99 was the last briefing on the active air defense system.
    Everything is simple as always, the "allies" were not interested in the safety of the vassals, the fate is such. The bourgeoisie themselves needed radar information, or lack thereof. In a word, the classic construction of the combat system, all according to manual
  26. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 14: 48
    0
    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    A sort of early warning system for western Europe. The Estonians did not talk about combat systems at all, they really looked at the situation. The Lithuanians made huge plans. In Latvia in '99 was the last briefing on the active air defense system.


    What is the meaning of air defense in the Baltic states? They will not be able to shoot down hurricane shells, the Americans are well aware of this. so the whole idea makes sense only in radars for reconnaissance. According to the logic, NATO is not going to protect anyone in the Baltic States, so the territory for military operations. And what will remain there after - let the Balts have a headache (or rather, no one, the whole head will be in London). All air defense systems there will be destroyed in the very first hours after the start of active hostilities.
  27. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 13 June 2016 16: 48
    +7
    Quote: Alex_Tug
    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    A sort of early warning system for western Europe. The Estonians did not talk about combat systems at all, they really looked at the situation. The Lithuanians made huge plans. In Latvia in '99 was the last briefing on the active air defense system.


    What is the meaning of air defense in the Baltic states? They will not be able to shoot down hurricane shells, the Americans are well aware of this. so the whole idea makes sense only in radars for reconnaissance. According to the logic, NATO is not going to protect anyone in the Baltic States, so the territory for military operations. And what will remain there after - let the Balts have a headache (or rather, no one, the whole head will be in London). All air defense systems there will be destroyed in the very first hours after the start of active hostilities.


    Everything is very simple, as I wrote above bourgeoisie needed information from radars, or lack thereof. Therefore, they were primarily interested in the airborne surveillance system. They received a picture of what was happening in the east of the Baltic states or the absence of a signal that it was all destroyed. Early warning. Elegantly, and at the expense of others.
  28. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 13 June 2016 18: 04
    +2
    They decided to create a powerful suverennnnuyu bunch of pshek-bolsheviks. Yes. There is nothing more to do. The owner of the black-and-white ,,, drunk because of the sea-ocean, ordered that now they will carry out.
  29. adena
    adena 13 June 2016 20: 02
    0
    Why is it always funny to me when the Baltic pygmy tigers demonstrate "muscle" or desire to "grow muscle"? maybe because I am damned "krievu" (Russian) "occupants" living in Riga and watching the agony of the Latvian country.