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Missile defense: entrance from the back yard

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A small piece of America appeared in 2016 on the territory of Romania: the base of the US missile defense system, consisting of X-NUMX SM-24 missile launchers, radar and other technical facilities, opened near Deveselu. Even the appearance of the buildings would be much more suitable for a place somewhere in Texas than in Eastern Europe and only emphasizes the special status of the object as being outside Romanian sovereignty. The tasks of local authorities include only the provision of water, electricity and everything necessary for the functioning of the complex of facilities.



The logic of the Americans, who preferred the base to the ship-based, can be understood. On any ship you can cram only a limited number of installations mk 41, and on the ground base of the satellite country there are no such restrictions in principle. In addition, the ship can be sunk, and the enemy will be able to cope with a full-fledged base only with a tactical nuclear charge, which is guaranteed to destroy all buildings at once throughout the entire base area. In a sense, Romania can be called the unsinkable destroyer of the US Navy - even though the base in Deveselu even looks a lot like a ship's superstructure.

However, the Americans did not at all refuse to reinforce the European missile defense with the ships. If necessary, the anti-missile capabilities of the base will be strengthened by the destroyers Arli Burk, which have risen in the Romanian ports. The new version of the Missile Standard Missile 3 Block IIA has an operational radius of 2500 km. If you count this distance from the base in Romanian Devesulu and Polish Redzikovo, then the area over the whole territory of the Russian Federation to the Urals falls into the affected area.

If missile defense were really built against Iran, then its elements would be located in Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, where American military facilities are already standing without any problems. With the same success, Russia could place its missiles in the Caribbean under the pretext of protection against Somali pirates. In addition, Iran has never threatened Europe, for even its hatred of Israel is more likely to be operative. In general, any statement that missile defense in Europe is aimed at the missiles of the Islamic Republic can be immediately considered as contrary to all elementary concepts of logic, physics and geography.

Even at the dawn of 2000, when Bush only proclaimed a firm intention to engage in a missile defense system, Russian analysts did offer possible answers. Including quite unexpected. For example, the conversation was about autonomous underwater modules carrying nuclear charges. As conceived by the authors of the idea, such machines could be in autonomous campaign for months for many months, hanging out on the expanses of the oceans. In the case of the outbreak of war, the modules would have attacked the pre-planned targets on the coast of the enemy, penetrating even into internal rivers and lakes. Tracking such modules would be extremely difficult, if not impossible.

However, a good idea, as in our country, turned out to be of no interest to anyone. In addition, for such modules there would not be just a suitable power plant with good autonomy. The reactor is excessively bulky, the radioisotope battery is weak, and with the non-volatile engine, domestic designers knowably got into a puddle, filling up promising project 677, after which for fleet the ancient Varshavyanka began to build again.

What are the main conclusions from this situation? Pretty simple. True, they will have to be made not only to us, but also to the Poles with Romanians. And they, perhaps, even in the first place. For it is for them to feel on themselves all the delights of the first nuclear strike with the transformation of the nearest settlements into a cloud of radioactive steam and the transition of vast territories into the category of unfit for habitation.

“Russia did not become a threat to Romania after the opening of a missile defense base in Deveselu, because the Russians know that the shield does not pose a threat to them,” the US ambassador to Romania told REGNUM, answering the student’s question whether Russia had become a threat. a threat to Romania after the opening of the missile defense base in Deveselu. - Answer to this question: no. Russia knows everything, but continues to talk nonsense. The anti-missile shield in Deveselu is one of the main investments of the United States and Romania in order to protect NATO throughout the region. And Romania should be proud of it. He poses no threat to Russia. The shield protects against missile threats that may arise from outside the European space, Iran, for example, and other countries in the Middle East. Russia knows this, we have spoken about it a thousand times, and Russian comments are disappointing in which the opposite is asserted.

The absurdity of this statement is difficult even to comment. Turning to everyday language, the situation can be described as follows. The world kickboxing world champion lives on your street and he didn’t care. And now, for some reason, you began to provoke him. Let even for money or some promises from outside. Attention is the question: how will such an activity affect your prospects to get in the head? But you are proud - they noticed you. Also invited to be proud of Romania and Poland.

In the event of an unexpected escalation, Washington may well write off the loss of several objects in the countries of the border countries, if in this way it is possible to avoid critical losses for the territory of the United States in the event of a nuclear war. American philistines are also quite capable of giving up on nuclear mushrooms over Deveselu or Redzikovo, if similar pictures do not appear over Cleveland or Anchorage. After all, how many will be able to find the same Romania on the map?

For Russia, there are also conclusions. Geographic opportunities for a quick and effective retaliatory strike give us, in fact, two regions - Kaliningrad and Crimea. The hypothetical loss of them will mean that the hands of Moscow will become much shorter, and the eyes - less keen. The essence of NATO’s urgent military preparations, according to the author of this text, is not to repeat the disastrous campaigns of Napoleon and Hitler again, but to capture these key regions at the right moment with military force. The “moment” means events similar to the Kiev Maidan or the revolutions in Petrograd 1917 of the year when the controlling military-political center is either paralyzed or otherwise ceases to exist as a subject of basic decision-making. For more NATO today is hardly capable.
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  1. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 14 June 2016 12: 19
    +13
    It's time to return the missiles to Cuba.
    1. bogdan4ik
      bogdan4ik 14 June 2016 12: 27
      .
      So what? No matter how powerful it is to create a group in Cuba, it will be destroyed in minutes. Khrushchev and the USSR were given a stump in the ass in Cuba, and all the missiles that were there were taken out and scrapped. And this is billions of rubles.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 14 June 2016 12: 35
        +28
        Quote: bogdan4ik
        No matter how powerful a group is created in Cuba, it will be destroyed in minutes
        Why did you decide that? Without a full-fledged and large-scale amphibious operation like the Overlord, the Americans in Cuba could not get anywhere. After all, destroying the island of nuclear weapons was fraught, first of all, for the United States. From Havana to Miami 350 km.
        Quote: bogdan4ik
        Khrushchev and the USSR gave a stump in the ass
        And Kennedy and the United States gave a stump in the ass in Turkey
        Quote: bogdan4ik
        all the missiles that were there were taken out and decommissioned. And this is billions of rubles.
        From now on, please
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 14 June 2016 13: 06
          +15
          I wouldn’t be in Chukotka for a 10-minute flight to the American cities of Alaska and the western coast of the states. Actually, it’s not in vain that our people in the Arctic have stepped up. Negroes with Latinos are unlikely to be delighted by Americans with service beyond the Arctic Circle laughing
          But a lightning jerk to Alaska with the capture of cities and shelter there from the use of nuclear weapons. Ours can do it. In general, something will be interesting. And then all Cuba and Cuba. Ready America. The Baltic States and Poland to Alaska should be exchanged. That's how the question needs to be raised. Let us fear better than we should worry.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 14 June 2016 13: 49
            +6
            Observer 2014! 13.06/XNUMX. Thought is certainly good. Only Alaska is the periphery. If you beat, then hit the financial centers, energy. How buggy they are when their light is cut down! How will they live without electricity? There is no Internet, ATMs do not work. All! End of the world!
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 14 June 2016 14: 02
              +7
              34 region
              . Thought is certainly good. Only Alaska is the periphery. If you beat, then hit the financial centers, energy. How buggy they are when their light is cut down! How will they live without electricity? There is no Internet, ATMs do not work. All! End of the world!

              Scenario with "Alaska way home" Not for a global war! God forbid! This is in case of a local "batch" in Europe. A quick capture of Alaska with the instant deployment of medium and short-range strike complexes there that will target the entire territory of the states. And the states are such cadres that they will hardly create an Arctic group to "liberate" Alaska, especially in winter. So they will escalate us in Europe we told them "Alaska way home" By the way, we can announce the printing of ballots for democratic voting. This is what the brain would take out from sworn partners. They give us "Missile defense: entrance from the backyard" And we told them "Alaska way home" Through them anus laughingAnd then through Cuba in the forehead to storm them somehow tired.
              1. 34 region
                34 region 14 June 2016 14: 26
                +3
                Observer 2014! 14.02/XNUMX. Yes! Thought is not bad! Way back home! Just how will it look in the minds of citizens of the world? Bloodthirsty Russia attacked America. So NATO was created not in vain! At the UN, by the number of US satellite countries, a resolution signed by the majority will be adopted. Who will harness for Russia. China? India? Iran? To compete with America, we must first make a breakthrough in the economy. After that, other countries will begin to rake and beat us.
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 14 June 2016 14: 40
                  +3
                  34 region
                  Just how will it look in the minds of citizens of the world?
                  The question is not how Russia will look at the same time. What will the hegemon look like? Which has depressed in the blink of an eye 25% of the territory. And besides, then we’ll talk to the rest about the adult. And forget about the sanctions. in response, the remaining states may even threaten the taiga with a grizzly bear clogged by our missiles and bears, even in addition to turning blue. Besides our military and new respectable citizens of Russia. In Alaska, there were not so many who will not and will not be until we have settled all the issues with the remaining hegemon, we will not conduct the Olympics there yet.
          2. ibu355yandex.ru
            ibu355yandex.ru 14 June 2016 15: 36
            +1
            In Chukotka, in Ugolki, there are only mines that can hardly be brought into proper form ... And at one time the name Gudym alone plunged into shock the valiant American warriors !!!
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 June 2016 13: 44
          -1
          and with a full-fledged base, the enemy will be able to cope only with a tactical nuclear charge
          The hand of a "specialist" is felt.
          However, a good idea, as in our country, turned out to be of no interest to anyone
          To build a death star in space is even more interesting.

          For Russia, there are also conclusions. Geographic opportunities for a quick and effective retaliatory strike are, in fact, given to us by two regions - Kaliningrad and Crimea

          Fast and efficient is how?
          By “moment” we mean events similar to the Kiev Maidan or the revolutions in Petrograd in 1917,
          Oh yes, Kabardin dreams of Maidan.
          From his blog

          Instead of an afterword. In fact, Vova made an obvious and predictable step. I don’t know what about the FSB, but he can trust the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the army with a boooooo big reservation.
          1. Kibalchish
            14 June 2016 14: 10
            +2
            Romanov, I have only three questions for you.

            Who put Serdyukov, Nabiullin and the like?

            Who is to blame for the fact that the factories are closing, that they even worked in 1990 and that the people are impoverished, and the oligarchs are getting richer?

            If Putin, who is already at the helm of 16 for years has nothing to do with it, then who has?

            About Maidan, I never dreamed of, for not. But with the current policy shocks can not be avoided. Because people do not want to just die of hunger.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 14 June 2016 14: 28
              +3
              Quote: Kibalchish
              Who set Serdyukov

              Putin put and during the reign of Serdyukov, throwing away the cries of propils, how much and what was put into the military?
              Quote: Kibalchish
              Nabiullin and the like?

              What do you know about the work of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?
              Quote: Kibalchish
              Who is to blame for the factories are closing down

              And new plants do not open? You have hatred of Putin turned into hatred of Russia as a whole.
              Quote: Kibalchish
              I never dreamed about the Maidan, for not.

              I read your blog and therefore, in your case, I was interested only in the psychology of a person like you.
              Quote: Kibalchish
              But with current politics, shocks cannot be avoided

              Do not dream.
              Quote: Kibalchish
              Because people do not want to just die of hunger.

              Are you exactly Russian?
              And tell me, you are a type of patriot of Russia, but there are many BUT. Your articles in LiveJournal are popular with a certain public, those who hate my country applaud you, reprinting your articles at home.
              While reading your blog, I sometimes feel very sorry that this is not the year in our country.
              1. Kibalchish
                14 June 2016 14: 53
                -4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Putin put and during the reign of Serdyukov, throwing away the cries of propils, how much and what was put into the military?


                I just served at Serdyukov. I know the opinion of the officers about him.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                What do you know about the work of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?


                Enough to see the consequences of his work. I also regularly listen to patriotic economists Glazyev, Katasonov, Zhukovsky, etc. For he is not an economist himself.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And new plants do not open? You have hatred of Putin turned into hatred of Russia as a whole.


                I have never had a hatred for Russia. I have a hatred for people who scream about patriotism and at the same time destroy the country.

                On IN often come across articles about the plight of employees of defense enterprises. And this is not the 1-2 case. Who built such a system?

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Do not dream.


                Never dreamed of. I only know that without modernization, we will definitely follow the empires of the Qing, the Ottomans and the Romanovs (I don’t mean you, but the dynasty that ended with Nicholas II). We lag behind and lag behind critically. The current leaders and mustache do not blow. At the same time, the people are impoverished and angry. Drunks reappeared on the streets, who had not been watched by 15 for years.

                Either these "leaders" will take up their minds, or the people will start looking for others. Or the third option is Byzantine and quite sad.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Are you exactly Russian?
                And tell me, you are a type of patriot of Russia, but there are many BUT. Your articles in LiveJournal are popular with a certain public, those who hate my country applaud you, reprinting your articles at home.
                While reading your blog, I sometimes feel very sorry that this is not the year in our country.


                Alice, I personally do not know. But if I understood correctly, she is from Slavyansk. She certainly thank the Russian for nothing. And yes, Bandera never cite me.

                By the way, about the popularity you greatly exaggerate. My blog is on the strength of reading a 30 man a day. Sometimes more. I'm not El Murid.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 14 June 2016 15: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Kibalchish
                  . I know the opinion of the officers about him.

                  So do I.
                  Quote: Kibalchish
                  Enough

                  It means nothing!
                  Quote: Kibalchish
                  I have never had hatred of Russia.

                  Of course not, Mr. Navalny and Kasyanov, too, like you love Russia and hate Putin. They, like you, are happy to cite and reprint including in Ukraine.
                  You managed to try to score points, even on the Holy Parade of Victory for Russia.
                  Quote: Kibalchish
                  Who built such a system?

                  I once looked at what the well-known opposition says today. For any questions they immediately affect the economy. Trying to score points on sensitive issues. You do the same thing because your goals are the same. And your goal ... and I think. that you will deny it, the change of power in Russia. at what you are satisfied with any option, how this change will occur.
                  Quote: Kibalchish
                  . But if I understood correctly, she is from Slavyansk. There’s certainly nothing to thank her for.

                  Of course, Russia must, Russia is obliged. In Slavyansk, thousands of people who hate Poroshenko, and a few who write about Russia as she is. In Kiev, there are more of them.
                  BZDIplomaty uSrashki)))
                  FLOWING EREFIA)))
                  I didn’t know about the harvest ...
                  HOUSEHOLIDAY HOLIDAY
                  WHO SAID THAT THE PUTINOIDS HAVE CHANGED THE METHODS?
                  EREFIA IS STUPIDITY, CRAZYNESS, SALE!
                  1. Kibalchish
                    14 June 2016 15: 38
                    -6
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Of course not, Mr. Navalny and Kasyanov, too, like you love Russia and hate Putin. They, like you, are happy to cite and reprint including in Ukraine.
                    You managed to try to score points, even on the Holy Parade of Victory for Russia.


                    Victory Parade I honor as well as any normal Russian. I am annoyed by attempts to speculate on the saint in the name of lies.

                    Victory won the generation. This is a glorious, but past. The country must look to the future.

                    Here are just our "commanders and chiefs" shouting loudest about patriotism, but they themselves have houses / families in Switzerland, Greece, London, Austria, Cote d'Azur, New York, Canada, etc. That is, they do not have their future with Russia tied up, and patriotic chewing gum is slipped into us.

                    Navalny and Kasyanov, I despised and will despise. I never wrote a single laudatory word about liberals. Neither LJ nor here.

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I once looked at what the well-known opposition says today. For any questions they immediately affect the economy. Trying to score points on sensitive issues. You do the same thing because your goals are the same. And your goal ... and I think. that you will deny it, the change of power in Russia. at what you are satisfied with any option, how this change will occur.


                    Economy - one of the foundations of the country. The economy will collapse - riots will begin. Riots will begin - the state will be shaken. The experience of the USSR did not teach anything?


                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Of course, Russia must, Russia must. In Slavyansk, there are thousands of people who hate Poroshenko, and few of those who write about Russia as she does.


                    Ask a question to her personally. I am not personally acquainted with her.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 14 June 2016 16: 09
                      +3
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      . I'm annoyed at trying to speculate on a saint in the name of a lie.

                      Kakoy lie? But if it comes to that, you do the same.
                      Quote: Kibalchish

                      Only our "commanders and chiefs" shout about patriotism the loudest, but they themselves have houses / families in Switzerland, Greece, London, Austria, Cote d'Azur, New York, Canada, etc.

                      And where is Putin's house?
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      I despised Navalny and Kasyanov and will despise.

                      Well, now Navalny is also watering Kasyanova with slop. But the goals then remain the same for both.
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      . The economy will collapse - riots will begin

                      Strangely, none of the economists predicted the collapse of the economy.
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      The experience of the USSR did not teach anything?

                      It was the incompetent management of the economies that destroyed the USSR. The economic model of the USSR is a utopia. Socialism is being built in Venezuela, the DPRK, and Belarus. Belarus holds, only thanks to Russia.
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      Ask a question to her personally. I am not personally acquainted with her.

                      I don’t ask questions like she does.
                      1. Kibalchish
                        14 June 2016 16: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Kakoy lie? But if it comes to that, you do the same.


                        I am only making fun of outright hypocrisy.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Strangely, none of the economists predicted the collapse of the economy.


                        Ulyukaev, Siluanov and Kudrin certainly do not predict.

                        But Glazyev, Katasonov and many others - on the contrary. I advise you not to listen to liberal, but normal economists.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        It was the mediocre management of economics that destroyed the USSR.


                        And now what, talented?

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Socialism is being built in Venezuela, the DPRK, Belarus


                        Venezuela is on the verge of starvation riots. In the DPRK, the population eats grass and is also on the verge of starvation.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Belarus holds, only thanks to Russia.


                        This is not socialism, but parasitism.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And where is Putin's house?


                        I don't know about Putin. But the rest in this regard, everything is OK. These guys who appointed? Obama, I suppose.
                    2. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 14 June 2016 17: 25
                      0
                      "The economy will collapse - riots will begin. Riots will start - the state will stagger." - You don't have to worry about this, all the riots will be pressed to the asphalt - all this has already passed.
              2. Persistent
                Persistent 14 June 2016 18: 04
                +1
                While reading your blog, I sometimes feel very sorry that this is not the year in our country.

                good
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek 14 June 2016 23: 09
                  0
                  Quote: Persistent
                  While reading your blog, I sometimes feel very sorry that this is not the year in our country.


                  Well, why so categorically. Once they squeal and tear on w ... hair, then everything is done correctly.
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 15 June 2016 19: 26
              +1
              Quote: Kibalchish
              But with current politics, shocks cannot be avoided.
              That's really itching! And give this "shock"!
              And what’s impossible without them?
              Quote: Kibalchish
              people don’t want to just starve to death.

              The nation (according to the WHO) ranks second after the pinnacle of population obesity. Apparently they are "swelling with hunger" ...
              And the fact that indexation of pensions is introduced is not counted? Raise the minimum wage - too, so-so, did you quit smoking?
              I would like more, but a very fat chunk of income has to be unfastened for defense. Or has the "guardians for the people's welfare" already forgotten about June 22, 41?
              Do not rock the boat! The first and drown!
              And the fact that a lot has been done in 16 years is not counted, or what?
        3. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 14 June 2016 13: 56
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          And Kennedy and the United States gave a stump in the ass in Turkey

          And in Itally with England
      2. PPD
        PPD 14 June 2016 12: 35
        +5
        Well, if the missiles in Cuba didn’t pose such a threat, why didn’t they even get to the war then? fool
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 14 June 2016 13: 45
          +6
          Quote: PPD
          Well, if the missiles in Cuba didn’t pose such a threat, why didn’t they even get to the war then? fool

          Before the war, missiles in Turkey were almost brought, everyone remembers about the "Cuban missile crisis" and not everyone remembers how it started at all. This was after we settled in Cuba .. The US agreed to remove missiles from Turkey, and part of the Pershing was removed from Europe.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 14 June 2016 13: 58
            +1
            Quote: Scoun
            The United States agreed to remove missiles from Turkey, and part of the Pershing was removed from Europe.

            The Cuban missile crisis ended in 1962, and the Pershing-1 missiles were adopted by the Americans in the 1963 Matra. A discrepancy however ...
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 14 June 2016 15: 00
              +3
              Quote: Scoun
              The United States agreed to remove missiles from Turkey, and part of the Pershing was removed from Europe.
              Quote: V.ic
              The inconsistency however ...
              What has "Pershing" to do with it ?! In Turkey and Italy, there were Jupiter RSDs, which were put into service in 1958.
              1. Scoun
                Scoun 14 June 2016 15: 23
                +2
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                What has "Pershing" to do with it ?! In Turkey and Italy were RSD "Jupiter",

                Quote: V.ic
                and the Pershing-1 missiles were adopted by the Americans in the 1963 Matra. A discrepancy however ...

                ++ rockets corrected everything correctly but the essence does not change, the rockets were removed.
              2. V.ic
                V.ic 14 June 2016 20: 51
                0
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Quote: Scoun The USA agreed to remove missiles from Turkey, and part of the Pershing was removed from Europe.
                Quote: V.ic
                The inconsistency, however ... What does "Pershing" have to do with it ?! In Turkey and Italy, there were Jupiter RSDs, which were put into service in 1958.

                Dear, once again re-read your and other people's comments on the topic, air your brains, evaluate the situation and ONLY THEN try to make an unambiguous conclusion. Crayfish that have not yet been taken into service could not be removed! DIXI.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 14 June 2016 13: 49
          +2
          Quote: PPD
          Well, if the missiles in Cuba didn’t pose such a threat, why didn’t they even get to the war then?

          what it wasn’t just a matter of safety, although the air defense systems were much weaker then the current ones, because there were all kinds of submarines nearby, and not only that.
          The point is face loss, such a serious loss to the Amer’s diploma is very serious, they consider themselves invulnerable, but here nuclear weapons are close to others, you can’t even react in time.
      3. volot-voin
        volot-voin 14 June 2016 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: bogdan4ik
        No matter how powerful a group is created in Cuba, it will be destroyed in minutes

        It depends on how you look, maybe before that she will have time to spit a deadly charge into the face of the enemy. But I hope it won't come to that. In addition, how to "dig in", disguise, classify simply not advertise.
        Quote: bogdan4ik
        And this is billions of rubles.

        Defense has never been cheap. Billions of rubles were spent, will be spent and will be spent - and this is a necessary minimum. Cuba is still a splinter in the United States.
      4. Pitot
        Pitot 14 June 2016 13: 39
        +5
        Dear, you don’t know the story? Who kicked someone there, the second question. Merikos, and not the USSR, have fallen. Although, you can think of anything, only the fact on the face (x .. on the snout) of the Merakanos from Turkey has faded ... in the form of missiles ....
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 14 June 2016 17: 41
        -1
        Not so simple. We left Cuba, and the Persings from Turkey.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 14 June 2016 23: 22
          +1
          Quote: NordUral
          Not so simple. We left Cuba, and the Persings from Turkey.


          This is called - the two powers agreed on parity. In today's situation, the United States operates an indirect tool called NATO. And although they (the USA) are the main smokers, they don’t seem to have anything to do with it (as they say), but everything, they say, comes from the EU’s concern about their security. The cunning plan of the Anglo-Saxons in action. So we need a reciprocal, no less cunning plan on our part. (IMHO)
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 15 June 2016 22: 24
          0
          I made a mistake with the type of missiles, but the essence does not change from this.
      6. zak167
        zak167 14 June 2016 23: 12
        0
        And you were in Cuba at that time? Bogdan, you are trying to talk about things that you absolutely don’t understand. And this looks stupid. Yes, and he recently kicked us from Kubynikto.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 14 June 2016 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: tiredwithall
      It's time to return the missiles to Cuba.

      And in Venezuela it would be nice until Maduro organized the Orange Revolution.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 14 June 2016 12: 46
        +2
        Quote: volot-voin
        And it would be nice to Venezuela
        Unfortunately, the power of Maduro is breathing in the dark! Even with Hugo Chavez alive, it was clear that Maduro was a weak politician and would not become a consolidating nation leader!
      2. 34 region
        34 region 14 June 2016 13: 54
        +3
        Volot warrior! 12.33. Why are submarines bad? It is not known where they are at this time. Start from several boats and from different directions. And so the direction is known.
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 June 2016 12: 38
      +8
      ... Only a limited number of mk 41 installations can be shoved onto any ship, and on the ground base of the satellite country such restrictions do not exist in principle. In addition, the ship can be sunk, and the enemy will be able to cope with a full-fledged base only with a tactical nuclear charge, which is guaranteed to destroy all buildings on the entire base area at once ...

      Still, an understanding of this logic of the United States would be in the satellite countries. They set themselves up as a land target - and you don't want to *** request
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 14 June 2016 12: 53
        0
        Quote: Andrey K
        Still, an understanding of this logic of the United States would be in the satellite countries. They set themselves up as a land target - and you don't want to ***


        Why did you decide that they do not understand this? They are not stupider than stools. Simply, this price seemed reasonable, acceptable to them.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 14 June 2016 15: 40
          +5
          Quote: Haettenschweiler

          Why did you decide that they do not understand this? They are not stupider than stools. Simply, this price seemed reasonable, acceptable to them.

          Yes, thank God, I do not have to decide for the Magyars with the Poles hi
          Why did you decide that 100% destruction (response) for them is a reasonable and reasonable price? request
    4. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 14 June 2016 12: 51
      +6
      Quote: tiredwithall
      It's time to return the missiles to Cuba.

      It is hardly possible, our leadership at the beginning of 2000's almost abandoned Cuba and now the Americans are returning there.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 June 2016 13: 49
        +1
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        , our leadership almost abandoned Cuba in the early 2000s

        And how much can you feed them? The constant swelling of bad loans to Cuba with a very dubious return. Olga hi
        1. 34 region
          34 region 14 June 2016 14: 35
          +1
          Romanov! 13.49. What does it mean to feed them? Here Americans open their bases everywhere and do not say that the owners are feeding from their bases. What do you mean bad loans? Like, are we bags of bucks for them, and they bought American goods on them? If you give such loans, it is to support a foreign economy. We had such stupid people? And if they were given loans to purchase Soviet products? Was that stupid too? After all, the money went into our industry, economy. In this way we credited our industry, and creditors paid on loans. What's so stupid?
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 15 June 2016 20: 02
        +1
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        our leadership at the beginning of the 2000's almost abandoned Cuba and now the Americans are returning there.

        They were late: the Chinese had already put their caps on all the chairs in the front row.
        In the first three quarters of 2015, China's trade turnover with Cuba grew by 57% to $ 1,6 billion ... China already ranks second among Cuba's trading partners; True, he is still behind the leader - Venezuela. "China has influence in all areas," said Richard Feinberg, a former diplomat and economist at the University of California. “As for the Cubans, they are still paranoid about America.”
    5. DMB_95
      DMB_95 14 June 2016 13: 18
      +4
      Maybe to Cuba .. But, in my opinion, the article has a very plausible idea that all these bases and NATO troops, pulling up to our borders, will wait for a period of political instability in Russia. 2018 is the election of the President. Many different forces are preparing to take revenge with the help of the States and Europe.
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 14 June 2016 14: 38
        +1
        Quote: DMB_95
        2018 is the election of the President. Many different forces are preparing to take revenge with the help of the States and Europe.


        Yes, it is already clear who the president will be. What a "revenge" there.
    6. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 June 2016 13: 37
      +2
      The Cuban government will not approve and will not allow the return of missiles to its territory.
    7. Scoun
      Scoun 14 June 2016 13: 42
      0
      Quote: tiredwithall
      It's time to return the missiles to Cuba.

      I think a hypersonic missile will "shorten" the distance. The meaning of placing missiles in Cuba will immediately become unnecessary if a missile launched from a submarine reaches, say, 15 minutes and from the Urals in 25 minutes ... well, approximately.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 June 2016 17: 36
        +2
        Forget about the missiles in Cuba, they will never be there anymore - because you didn’t need them, in 1962 the USSR did not have enough nuclear submarines capable of carrying ICBMs, and the long-range ICBMs themselves were few in the USSR - now such submarines are on combat duty in Atlantic and the Pacific.
    8. Simple
      Simple 14 June 2016 17: 09
      +1
      The Americans have already returned to Cuba.
      In December 2015 in Havana, US and Cuban officials held their first talks on mutual compensation for Cold War policies. Havana claims about $ 120 billion for damage from 50 years of economic blockade. Washington, in turn, demands from Cuba $ 8 billion in compensation for property expropriated under Castro






      1. Simple
        Simple 14 June 2016 17: 14
        +1
        e. Last week, the Cuban authorities have already announced the abolition of the 10 percent tax on the use of US dollars on their territory, and the US Ministry of Finance has provided Cuban citizens with the opportunity to officially receive salaries in the US and open accounts in American banks. Then it was decided to allow “individual educational tourism” to the island: free access to Cuba for Americans is still unavailable, as
    9. RedBaron
      RedBaron 14 June 2016 18: 21
      -1
      Quote: tiredwithall
      It's time to return the missiles to Cuba.

      Cubans now have nothing to do, only serve the ambitions of the Russian Federation? Keep your pocket wider and they will not let anyone in for a cannon shot.
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 14 June 2016 12: 28
    0
    Maybe this what ... Indeed, Poland will be occupied and from there already scorching Europe repeat ? Closer to the goals no matter how ... winked And Poles will gladly take Germany to themselves. She still has few immigrants ... And here are her brothers fellow can say.
  3. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 14 June 2016 12: 30
    +2
    and with a full-fledged base, the enemy will be able to cope only with a tactical nuclear charge, which is guaranteed to destroy all buildings on the entire base area at once.
    Now, not at all, by a nuclear charge. But the consequences for the base will be no less dire.
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 14 June 2016 12: 32
    +4
    The new version of the missile Standard Missile 3 Block IIA has an operational radius of 2500 km

    Since the author does not understand what he is writing about, I will give an illustration for understanding this very operational radius
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 14 June 2016 12: 45
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      Since the author does not understand what he is writing about, I will give an illustration for understanding this very operational radius

      I wonder at the expense of what the United States, while maintaining the dimensions of the missiles (for use MK-41) increase several times the range and altitude?
      1. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 14 June 2016 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve

        I wonder at the expense of what the United States, while maintaining the dimensions of the missiles (for use MK-41) increase several times the range and altitude?



        A more powerful engine and, accordingly, increased thrust-to-weight ratio. Read here:
        http://topwar.ru/93296-sistema-pro-ssha-chast-3-ya.html
      2. vadimtt
        vadimtt 14 June 2016 13: 01
        +3
        Most interesting. The maximum that I can assume is that there is more and more RDX in the fuel, and even in the first stage. And this fuel is unlikely to be stable with such energy - it may even start at the start, IMHO.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 14 June 2016 14: 40
          0
          Quote: vadimtt
          And this fuel is unlikely to be stable with such energy - it may even start at the start, IMHO.

          An explosion from combustion differs in the speed of a chemical reaction, so the main thing with solid fuel accelerators is not to overdo it.
  5. evgen1945
    evgen1945 14 June 2016 12: 33
    +3
    That's what Romanians would have to remember how they battered our whole war, and Stalingrad would not be allowed to forget, how much fertilizer they left in the form of corpses
    1. Pitot
      Pitot 14 June 2016 13: 41
      0
      Exactly, and they have not yet paid their due. Recall ....
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 14 June 2016 12: 38
    +7
    You read the "thoughts" of these striped ghouls, and the roof really begins to melt. It's like yesterday they were quoted here: “Russians disguised as German fans beat up Russians disguised as Ukrainian fans ...” It's logical, you just believe. The world specifically suffered a tower - one incorrect operation, and a worm is guaranteed. And to comrade obamenke and through Alaska and the North Pole, we will have time to knock on smoked Big Macs, as much as his hot dog will come off.
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  8. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 14 June 2016 12: 53
    +4
    Romanians have always been cunning. And now they have fallen under the strong, as has always been the case in history. Well, the local government traditionally does not care about the opinion of the people. Everyone hopes that Russia will not use nuclear weapons if something happens.
    But in fact, all this is sad. Pen.dossia systematically surrounds our country with bases, missiles, ships and hostile states. Now they are held back only by the awareness of guaranteed destruction. As soon as this law of self-preservation in mattresses and K dries up, there will be "big badabum". Overseas people can easily exchange the old Europe to achieve their geopolitical goals.
    1. Oznob
      Oznob 14 June 2016 13: 07
      +5
      There will be no badabum, it completely kills the meaning of NATO in general. It's a sawmill - Tubaretkin nervously smokes on the sidelines. You need to make some noise about this on an ongoing basis, start all sorts of maneuvers there, sow fields from a Humvee plane and all sorts of such movements. Badabum-sword is needed only for us, darn did not even dare to climb with pistols on tanks in our taiga. I see the scheme as simple to disgrace. NATO organizes theatrical gay parades in camouflage near our borders, we wave a vigorous club from the bell tower, we play along like "Omerega! I beat your shield at your gate!" allows you to allocate a lot of money for defense initiatives. They will master the money, they will play a new performance.
      "There are few real violent" (c) Vysotsky V.S.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 14 June 2016 14: 11
        +1
        Chills! 13.07/XNUMX. It seems logical. What if she gets banged? Purely by accident? Was there not enough random shelling and bombing? How will the fearful America suffer from this? No way! A powerful competitor, the EU-Russia, will be cut down. From the fact that Afghanistan is at the technological level of the Stone Age, America only benefits. So it will be here. Separate gangs will destroy each other and sell the remaining values ​​for weapons. What is ISIS doing today? They exterminate each other and sell everything that is of some value for weapons. And they sell for nothing. That’s the whole tricky plan. hi Why change something in technology if it is already well-honed and works well !?
      2. Bramb
        Bramb 14 June 2016 14: 43
        +2
        The problem is that they are sawing alone, and tomorrow others will come.
        And the third give orders. The Western economy is colonial. And their colonies are over. We need new ones, moreover, richer ones. Otherwise, a decline in living standards. And they are not ready for this.
        So, I would not say so confidently that the sawmill is everything.
        1. Oznob
          Oznob 14 June 2016 16: 10
          +2
          Well, we are talking specifically about bad boom, just this component of the war is unacceptable for capital holders. The script is transparent and logical. YA flies to us, it drops visor, The history of this planet begins with 0 (without people, probably).
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  9. shinobi
    shinobi 14 June 2016 13: 01
    0
    Emphasis on mobile installations must be done. Like Iskander and Clubs. So that the bastards knew that retaliation was inevitable. Strengthen the Strategic Rocket Forces with a pair of nuclear submarines. Well and all the ex-brothers, by the ground squirrels, it’s indicative. They don’t want peace and friendship, nothing is shaking further from fear.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 June 2016 20: 45
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      Strengthen the Strategic Missile Forces with a pair of submarines.
      A couple, however, will not be enough! But 8 may be enough (but for every ocean-going fleet: Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet!) And to prop it up with Barguzins - that will be the most!
  10. mamont5
    mamont5 14 June 2016 13: 09
    +3
    Quote: bogdan4ik
    So what? No matter how powerful it is to create a group in Cuba, it will be destroyed in minutes. Khrushchev and the USSR were given a stump in the ass in Cuba, and all the missiles that were there were taken out and scrapped. And this is billions of rubles.

    They didn’t give anything to anyone. Reason prevailed. Negotiations were held and a compromise was reached. But Cuba was not asked at the same time, and it is unlikely that today they will allow us to carry out such a feint.
  11. tundra
    tundra 14 June 2016 13: 10
    0
    Romanians have always been smart ...
    And they are called dead Romanians here.
  12. VladimS
    VladimS 14 June 2016 13: 19
    +2
    Quote: Corsair0304
    Now they are held back only by the awareness of guaranteed destruction. As soon as this law of self-preservation in mattresses and K dries up, there will be "big badabum". Overseas people can easily exchange the old Europe to achieve their geopolitical goals.

    One hydrogen waved, a blast wave circled the planet several times, half of the world got rid of ... And then there will be badabum many times higher than everything previously seen. It will no longer be possible to settle down anywhere. And even a large puddle will not help. Absolutely.
  13. GAndr
    GAndr 14 June 2016 13: 46
    +9
    I remember how sad the reduction and withdrawal of troops from Chukotka looked in the late 80s and especially in the 90s .. It's just some kind of horror. Everything looked like a flight that they could not take out, they just blew up. In Urelyki, there was once such a village. Huge warehouses of weapons were located. Shells, mines, ammunition boxes, rockets, even sea "horned" mines. All this stuff stood in racks as high as a five-story building and stretched for many, many kilometers.
    Equipment warehouses: tanks, hail installations, etc., also for kilometers. And then the troops began to withdraw, or rather how to withdraw, they drove a couple of dry cargo ships that they could loaded, and the rest was stupidly blown up. The noise and rumbling has been standing for more than one year, and this is several kilometers away from us in Providence. They destroyed so much good ... But there were also camouflaged bases with tactical nuclear missiles. Eyewitnesses told how they saw that almost half of the hill drove off and missiles came out from there ... The USSR made a powerful outpost in Chukotka. many years and forces were put on it and more than one generation, and then .. then .. In general, there is nothing of this for a long time. Chukotka has been completely demilitarized and turned into the Beringia National Park. The largest military formations that now exist in Chukotka are border outposts with a contingent of 25-35 personnel. And you say missiles to Chukotka :) Hey ...
    And then there was a terrible famine in Chukotka, hunger and cold, when people had nothing to wear and nothing to drown in cold weather in winter, and winter in Chukotka was 8-9 months, by the way ... I remember how people hung themselves from what they could not feed your children dying from the cold. It's just awful.
    And I also remember very well how disgusting it was to look at the well-fed and contented faces of the Americans, who poured into Chukotka from Alaska in the early nineties. They walked, looked at all the prevailing poverty and devastation, took pictures and rejoiced. Once one such bastard got drunk and said that we supposedly were going here on purpose - to look at the defeated and dead bear.

    They want missile bases for your mother in Chukotka, but where have you been before? Sorry for the emotions ...

    And just then, I hated the Americans fiercely, until now I just can not stand them. Up to the point that I think that a good American is a dead American.
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 15 June 2016 01: 01
      -2
      a good American is a dead American.
      Skolkikh personally killed?
    2. romex1
      romex1 15 June 2016 02: 44
      +3
      I work on Sakhalin. and, you know, I also think. no good amers.
  14. Pitot
    Pitot 14 June 2016 13: 46
    +3
    My grandmother was under occupation under the Romanians (or rather, the units stood) near Voronezh. She called them Magyars and talked a lot about how these dodges hung, fired and were just rogue robbers. They still did not give an answer to my granny. Descendants will have to ask for this.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 14 June 2016 14: 29
      0
      Magyars are Hungarians. Romanians, as a rule, liked to bully and steal. Incidentally, Germans could try to complain about them. Sometimes it helped. Gypsies what to take from them. But the Hungarians behaved much more frostbite.
  15. Operator
    Operator 14 June 2016 14: 03
    +4
    Without exception, all US missile defense systems, both sea and ground, are equipped with transatmospheric interceptors with a kinetic warhead. Those. they cannot intercept a single combat block of Russian ICBMs and SLBMs, accompanied by dozens of false targets in the transatmospheric space, even in theory.

    But the United States does not have universal (atmospheric-atmospheric) interceptors with high-explosive fragmentation (C-500) or nuclear (A-235) from the word at all.
  16. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 14 June 2016 14: 53
    +2
    "with an air-independent engine, domestic designers have notably sat down in a puddle, having filled up the promising project 677, after which they began to build the ancient" Varshavyanka "for the fleet again."

    The author of the article does not seem to fully understand what "Varshavyanka" of the 1980s and modern "Varshavyanka" are.
  17. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 14 June 2016 19: 56
    +1
    If missile defense were really built against Iran, then its elements would be located in Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, where American military facilities are already standing without any problems. With the same success, Russia could place its missiles in the Caribbean under the pretext of protection against Somali pirates. In addition, Iran has never threatened Europe, for even its hatred of Israel is more likely to be operative. In general, any statement that missile defense in Europe is aimed at the missiles of the Islamic Republic can be immediately considered as contrary to all elementary concepts of logic, physics and geography.

    The author is interesting, has he ever seen a globe? Missiles from Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia will try to catch ICBMs with chemical warheads from Iran (they officially have chemistry, and they also launched a satellite). And from Romania and Bulgaria to meet.
    I'm more interested in how, from Romania and Bulgaria, missiles with a miserable radius of 2500 kilometers will try to catch up with our ICBMs launched from beyond the Urals. From the closest point in Romania, to the Ob River, even on the border with Kazakhstan, 2730 kilometers, and they still need to catch up with the ICBMs flying to the north. How can they physically do this?
    Missiles against us must be in Norway, Canada, Alaska, and in Alaska GBI are against us. But why they prefer to forget every time.
  18. Old26
    Old26 14 June 2016 23: 00
    +1
    Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
    In Chukotka, in Ugolki, there are only mines that can hardly be brought into proper form ... And at one time the name Gudym alone plunged into shock the valiant American warriors !!!

    Of course plunged, how could it be otherwise. Especially when you consider that the mines have never been there. 4 land launches were built for the R-14, which were not deployed and which only Alaska could cover

    Quote: Vadim237
    Forget about the missiles in Cuba, they will never be there anymore - because you didn’t need them, in 1962 the USSR did not have enough nuclear submarines capable of carrying ICBMs, and the long-range ICBMs themselves were few in the USSR - now such submarines are on combat duty in Atlantic and the Pacific.

    To say that there were few missile submarines is too strong. And at that time there were only THREE boats of project 658 with the D-2 missile system (R-13 missile with a range of 600 km). TWO boats were modernized according to project 658M with the D-4 complex (R-21 with a range of 1400 km). But these two went into operation after the crisis. And what does it mean to come up and emerge at a distance of 600 km from the United States I think it’s not worth talking

    Quote: Operator
    But the United States does not have universal (atmospheric-atmospheric) interceptors with high-explosive fragmentation (C-500) or nuclear (A-235) from the word at all.

    By and large, these interceptors, and we still do not have
  19. Old26
    Old26 14 June 2016 23: 40
    +1
    Quote: Old26
    4 land launches were built for the R-14, which were not deployed and which only Alaska could cover

    Sorry. It is unclear how slipped NOT. Read correctly: 4 land launches for R-14 were built, which were deployed and which only Alaska could cover
    1. Operator
      Operator 15 June 2016 00: 47
      +1
      Something flag on you on the avatar badly affects you laughing

      The flight distance of the medium-range missile P-14 was 4500 km, i.e. when starting from Anadyr, she could hit with her 2,3 megaton warhead any of the targets in the entire North-West of the USA, and not just in Alaska.

      The opening of a missile base in Chukotka was an excellent compensation for the closure of a Soviet missile base in Cuba (apparently, it was not for nothing that the operation to deploy medium-range missiles in Cuba was called Anadyr).

      If the RSD R-14 was replaced by the RSD Pioneer with a range of 5500 km, the latter could reach targets in all western and northern states of the United States. But no one is now forbidding the deployment of new Rubezh ICBMs with a range of over 5500 km in Chukotka.
  20. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 15 June 2016 00: 40
    0
    Who knows the news from the Yellowstone Caldera? laughing
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 15 June 2016 00: 56
      0
      Who knows the news from the Yellowstone Caldera?
      Don’t get it! tongue
  21. smokyrabbit
    smokyrabbit 15 June 2016 02: 23
    0
    Strange reading sensation. Some kind of confusion. It doesn't look like an analytical article, although it tries to be one. They dragged a little of that, a little of this, but didn't really say anything about it ... they thickened the colors, like in some detective novel. A little fiction was added about some kind of "autonomous submarine modules carrying nuclear charges" and made conclusions (without giving any facts) from the fact that the idea is "super" - "but not underestimated" (some kind of Wunder Wafer). They immediately dragged in the "failure" with the 677 project - how is it here?
    In the end, in my head there is one question "What is the article about?"
  22. Old26
    Old26 15 June 2016 09: 34
    0
    Quote: Operator
    The flight distance of the medium-range missile P-14 was 4500 km, i.e. when starting from Anadyr, she could hit with her 2,3 megaton warhead any of the targets in the entire North-West of the USA, and not just in Alaska.

    Andrew! The range of the R-14 rocket was BEFORE 4500 km. For example, I met a range of 4200 km. Yes, a couple of states in the Northwest of the USA could be in the affected area. But not a 2,3 mt warhead. With this heavy BG, the R-14 flight range was 3200-3700 km. With a 1-mt head - BEFORE 4500 km. In addition, even with the achievement of the Northwest of the United States, a strike could only be delivered FOUR rockets. The regiment was not deployed in full force, only one division. This could be enough for targets in Alaska, there are not so many goals there, a couple of radars, an air base. And on the continental side - this would not be enough in any case.

    Quote: Operator
    The opening of a missile base in Chukotka was an excellent compensation for the closure of a Soviet missile base in Cuba (apparently, it was not for nothing that the operation to deploy medium-range missiles in Cuba was called Anadyr).

    What compensation is there. In Cuba, there were only 12 launch R-24s and 16 launch R-14s were planned (not deployed). This is the first.
    Secondly, they planned to deploy a maximum of regiment in Chukotka. And these are 8 launchers. Deployed 4.
    Thirdly. How can the opening of a missile base in Chukotka be compensated for the base in Cuba, when the base in Chukotka was opened in June-August 1962, and missiles from Cuba were removed in November-December.

    Quote: Operator
    If the RSD R-14 was replaced by the RSD Pioneer with a range of 5500 km, the latter could reach targets in all western and northern states of the United States. But no one is now forbidding the deployment of new Rubezh ICBMs with a range of over 5500 km in Chukotka.

    Thank God, there were smart people in the Strategic Missile Forces who did not deploy Pioneers in Chukotka. And they were able to defend their opinion even under pressure from the Politburo. Chukotka is not a place where you can normally operate missile systems. This is the first
    Second. You overestimated the range of the "Pioneer" again. "Pioneer" (15Ж45) had a range of 4700 km. True, there was information that in a monoblock version it could reach a range of 5000 km, but 18 such missiles were deployed, and all in the European part of the USSR. But "Pioneer-UTTH" that had a range of 5000 km.
    And the last thing. Nobody will deploy new divisions in the Strategic Missile Forces. The nearest prospect is one division (no one knows where) of the BZHRK, if a decision is made on its full-scale development. Where the "Frontiers" will be is, in principle, clear. At least one exact location is known.
  23. GAndr
    GAndr 21 June 2016 10: 06
    0
    Quote: Anglorussian
    a good American is a dead American.
    Skolkikh personally killed?

    Yes, unfortunately, has not yet happened. All the same, and this is good, while peacetime. Incidentally, thanks to the Strategic Missile Forces.
    But, if there is a war, do not hesitate for me not to be. That the Americans, that the p.p.i.s.d.sski, such as the English, Poland and other Baltic states, personally I will not cause any sympathy. Excuse me, fiercely hate all scum ..