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Lived: in the parades are already marching combat robots. And this is not a joke: the multifunctional robotic complexes "Uran-9" have recently passed on Hmeimim along with the usual technology.
About how far our military equipment has stepped, I talk with the host of the program "Military Acceptance" of the TV channel "Star" Alexei Egorov.

Alexey, a strong impression was left by the scene from your plot about combat robots. Especially when the creator of "Uranus" is experiencing it for himself: he gets in the way of the 10-ton machine ... Is this, let's say, a movie?

Alexey Egorov: It was so. But the speed at that moment was small, so the risk is small. Everything on our shoot is absolutely real. The only thing in the case of testing "Uranus-9" for safety net was a person who could press the red button and remotely stop the robot.

But he never pressed the red button. There was no need.

Are robots so smooth?

Alexey Egorov: The biggest problem with robots is the speed of communication. Relatively speaking, you see with the help of a robot that you need to shoot. So far I have processed the information, while the signal has passed ... It is about fractions of a second, but it also matters. The decision in battle should be made instantly. The development of combat robotics goes in two directions. Under the robots create new programs that reduce the time of the signal. And as never before, the problem is: is it possible to transfer to the robot the right to make a decision on a shot, and therefore on shooting at a person. But this is a matter of law.

"Uranus-9" is a robot in the literal sense of the word. But there are robotic Tanks, the same "Armata": the crew in an isolated armored capsule, the tower is uninhabited, firing is controlled remotely.

I correctly understood the story about smart mines: will they soon be able to distinguish a soldier from a civilian?

Alexey Egorov: So it is. For many years, no one in the world could understand how even our relatively old mines, such as “The Hunt”, are arranged. They were used in Afghanistan. Mina distinguished animals from humans: the sheep will pass and will not explode, but man will not pass. Only after the collapse of the USSR such mines were found in the warehouses of one of the Baltic republics. They found out: the main secret in the seismic sensor.

More advanced ones, such as the Medallion, have now been developed. She is even smarter. Indeed, the next generation of our mines will teach us to distinguish a soldier from a civilian. How is this possible? Mines are sensitive to metal. But not only that. There are more secrets that we cannot talk about.

Scene: here you are in a white shirt "riding" on a self-propelled gun "Coalition". At the speed of leading the report, holding the barrel. Not risky?

Alexey Egorov: By the way, it goes very smoothly. Risk? We train first, the crew chooses the optimum speed. By the way, much more difficult for my operator. I hold onto the trunk with my hands, but he has a camera in his hands. Sometimes the operator even bind. And always choose places where there are three points of support: for the legs and for the body strut.

As for the cameras: you often place them in the firing zone. Are bosses understanding losses?

Alexey Egorov: We have already started collecting broken GoPro. But many cameras survive, only the mount is damaged. As for the authorities, everyone understands that, by making a serious military program, you cannot risk people. And if you do not risk technology, then nothing can not be removed.

We, for example, when we made a film about flame throwers, we had a kopter hanging right above the point of impact. And there expensive equipment, once in 10 more expensive than the usual GoPro.

It happens that losses do not come from mines and shells, but from the fact that they fall into the zone of electronic warfare.

There was a case. Worked on a serious object, on which one, I will not say. Got all permissions. And for no reason at all, a kopter is off course. It flies normally and - once, it falls.

The equipment is good, the batteries are charged, the control is normal. And suddenly some kind of power changes everything. Whack - and at full speed in the ground.

In the submarine storyline, your drones also behaved very strangely.

Alexey Egorov: During the filming of "Vladimir Monomakh" we did not have our own kopter. We hired a team with great experience. The camera they had was not a GoPro, but a full-fledged "Mark" with an expensive lens. And now our kopter flies and in some place sags down half a meter, then the flight is restored. Devilry! Smooth flight - failure - smooth flight - again failure. Panorama can not be removed, we write only fragments of seconds on 5-7. In the end, the guys, without my consent, took and started the kopter at full speed along this trajectory. Just to understand what's going on. And ... the copter disappeared.

Imagine the situation: Severodvinsk, five in the morning, the footage is not known where. They lifted all services on their ears, found it. The copter crashed, but the camera survived.

How do you understand the sailors of "Donald Cook"! (destroyer fleet The United States, which all electronics refused when approaching the Russian Su-24 bomber. - Ed.). And the question begs: due to what are we creating something of this sort, but it does not work out for others? Let's say the most accurate RPG-29 is the Vampire, which is called the "sniper grenade launcher." We can do these, they are not. Nicely. But still, why?

Alexey Egorov: Designers told me more than once: they do that weaponwhich they ordered. The military set the requirements, which are always outside the existing level. Two or three steps ahead.

And further. Excellent systems are always obtained when an enterprise does not boast of its achievements, and within the framework of the military-industrial complex unites efforts with its colleagues. For example, in Soviet times, the priority for resources and funding was from the nuclear industry. And when the nuclear scientists developed a projectile for the Chrysanthemum complex, it turned out to be unique.

Or take the original solution - ignition of charge when firing ACS "Coalition" occurs due to microwave radiation. That is, the powder is set on fire simultaneously, as in a microwave, which dramatically increases the efficiency of the shot. But how it is a secret.

Are the viewers unhappy?

Alexei Egorov: We are reproached: you do not let people open up, my long question sounds in the air, in response: "yes", "no" and "does not matter." It seems that our general designers and military representatives are tongue-tied. This is not true. Simply speaking into the camera, they think all the time: they wouldn’t have missed the point. By the way (laughs), I caught myself thinking that now I am behaving just like them.

Coalition, Su-34 and T-50 are high-tech products. And take a mortar. He created more than a century ago. Nothing new in the design appeared: a pipe, a plate and a sight. During the Great Patriotic War a ingeniously simple mechanism for re-loading was added. And that's it! But we created a silent mortar, but no one in the world could.

Alexey Egorov: We have an organization whose name it was not possible to say out loud until recently, - the Research Institute of Applied Chemistry. We are very strong in developing chemical formulations. You could say trendsetters. For example, there is nothing in the world like our heavy flamethrower system "Sunpipek".

When they were filming a story about flamethrowers, we were not allowed into the workshop where thermobaric ammunition is produced. This is a rare case, usually allowed. But if the machine gets into the frame, then the experts will understand what we are doing and in which direction we are moving.

I will not answer directly the question about the silent mortar. Just to say that there is a feeling that this is a spike of chemists and manufacturers of mortar systems. The secret is not so much in the mortar, as in his shot.

As for world records, they are stories the creation of our military equipment a huge amount. For example, everyone knows what Kevlar is. Meanwhile, we had a superior Kevlar aramid canvas. But who heard about him?

We were the first to create an all-metal submarine. Launched in 1834 year. Designer - Adjutant General Karl Schilder. Since it made the world's first missile launch from a submerged position.

Let's do a good deed: the military is annoyed by myths and bloopers about the army and about weapons. Create a list of "bloopers"? For example, do not say "at the helm of a fighter." The pilot's right hand is on the aircraft control stick, the left hand is on the thrusts (engine control levers). Steering wheel in the cockpit no.

There are no "platoon commanders." Platoon, company, regiment, brigade, division commanded by the commander. Army and above - commander.

Will you continue?

Alexey Egorov: There is no bullet "with an offset center of gravity." Although many believe in this myth. If such a bullet were, then it would fly anywhere, but not at the target.

There is no captain on a warship or submarine, there is a commander ...

But I can say that people are no longer annoyed by this. They shot the speedboat "Raptor". He approached the commander, warned that I did not know the maritime laws and terms. He says: "Yes, call it what you want. You will call the hatch a lid - not scary." That's when you did not understand - bad. If, say, the general designer carefully prepared for the visit of the film crew, and you came to him unprepared, it is annoying. But if people see that you are immersed in the topic, then the little things are forgiven.

Significantly: I was at a factory near Krasnoyarsk, which produces 90 percentages of our satellites. When they said goodbye, they told us: more than a hundred journalists came here. But you are the first who shot at our factory for so long: three days.

And they have so many interesting things ...

"Military acceptance" comes out weekly, it's like a non-stop conveyor. Plots enough?

Alexey Egorov: Yes, a very so powerful conveyor. But with the stories we are all very well. As I was told in Chelomey KB, there are much more secrets about which we will tell you (now or when the time will come) than you can imagine.
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  1. CORNET
    CORNET 12 June 2016 13: 57
    +25
    Here he is a Russian soldier! Robots, gentlemen, are useless ...

    But his ancestors ...

    We always have ....
    “Clean and tidy German soldiers jumped into their huge trucks, which roared out of the village with a roar. After some time, a column of Soviet foot soldiers appeared. Dirty, long unshaven, tired, they slowly entered the village. To the boy’s perplexed question why the German soldiers, clean and full of strength, fled from these emaciated and barely standing people, his father answered him: “And look at their eyes. They are nothing and no one will stop ... "
    This is Poland!
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2016 13: 59
      +8
      Quote: CORNET
      Here he is a Russian soldier!

      nice article
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 June 2016 14: 06
        +14
        Times change and weapons too, but ours ahead of the rest of the planet, as it should be, then guaranteedly they will not climb on us.
        1. vv3
          vv3 13 June 2016 02: 16
          -4
          Dropped to the sinful earth, open your eyes and turn on your head, star-shaped dreamer.
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 12 June 2016 14: 51
        +13
        Quote: CORNET
        ! Robots are your gentlemen, useless ..

        - It's good when everything is in moderation! Khrushchev, too, for his time, foolishly, proudly abandoned aircraft and guns in favor of missiles. Stalin, genetics spread rot. And then we "in a Stakhanov way" overcame the gap. And just do not be clever! For me, it's better to let the robots lay down in piles than our heroic boys!
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 12 June 2016 15: 37
          -12%
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Quote: CORNET
          ! Robots are your gentlemen, useless ..

          - It's good when everything is in moderation! Khrushchev, too, for his time, foolishly, proudly abandoned aircraft and guns in favor of missiles. Stalin, genetics spread rot. And then we "in a Stakhanov way" overcame the gap. And just do not be clever! For me, it's better to let the robots lay down in piles than our heroic boys!

          Liber you are a purebred! hi You know that we do not like robots in Russia ..? (Although we have them ..)))) Run ... your place in the west!
      3. vv3
        vv3 13 June 2016 02: 49
        -3
        Why is she pleasant? Superficial delirium of a delitant, designed for the same. What are robots with a man next to a red button in the absence of a modern information exchange system? One photo is worth it. Look at the picture of the newest self-propelled guns "Coalition SV" with a range of more than 50 km, which fires direct fire in a trench on the front line. Ultra-modern weapons are used for other purposes, like an outdated gun, and why? It does not have the ability to get the coordinates of targets at a long range. The ESU TK system, into which it should be integrated, does not work. UAVs do not give out the coordinates of targets for it and other systems. We do not have such working systems. Complete devastation against the background of fairy tales about robots, shock UAVs, T-50, Armata and others. We do not have an information environment for using such systems. The fantastic capabilities of new systems cannot be realized. Isn't that clear? But everyone pretends not to notice it. Everyone who tells such tales is either stupid people or traitors who are preparing us for the new 41 year. You don't want to believe in traitors, then only option 1 remains. And what losses are planned?
    2. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 12 June 2016 14: 12
      +37
      That's something like ... hi
    3. megafair
      megafair 12 June 2016 14: 15
      +18
      Quote: CORNET
      Here he is a Russian soldier

      Why make of a RUSSIAN SOLDIER (bow to his feet, his merits will never be forgotten) - why make of him:
      Quote: CORNET
      Dirty, long shaved, tired

      The Russian soldier, even with all the hardships and hardships, retained his honor, during the time of the Russian Empire - in that battle, which may be the last - they wore a clean white shirt!
      We are ready to give our lives for our Motherland and lying in the mud!
      But we love our Motherland so much - that we give our lives in a white shirt, with bright thoughts and with a Soul clean from dirt !!!

      Remember this !!!! And carry this memory for generations!
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 12 June 2016 14: 28
        +14
        In fact, our soldiers are .... We do not want war!
        1. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 12 June 2016 17: 28
          +10

          "In the center of Simferopol, a monument was opened to "polite people." "
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 12 June 2016 20: 58
            -1
            Quote: KVIRTU
            "A monument to 'polite people' was opened in the center of Simferopol."

            Perhaps they overdid it. Of course, they don’t argue about tastes, but in my opinion life-size would have looked better. Are Tsereteli infected with gigantomania from Zurab?
            1. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU 12 June 2016 22: 30
              +1
              Yes, not the size of the matter. In this composition, the main character is in the GRU special forces outfit, and the main work was pulled by the airborne troops, I know as a participant in the events from the first day. That's who I would like to see on a pedestal.
              Reminds of the shooting of the film by Alexei Pimanov, "Red Star", recently called "Crimea":
              "Guys, would you ask the locals how it really was?"
              "Why do we need it? The script is approved, the money is transferred. Motor. Camera."
              Wait on wide screens ...
      2. poquello
        poquello 12 June 2016 14: 28
        +9
        Quote: megafair
        in that battle, which may be the last - put on a clean white shirt!

        there were so many such battles in the Second World War, there isn’t enough suitcase with you
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 12 June 2016 14: 59
          0
          what Kasyan with Casper minus photo ..... I’ll shoot!
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2016 15: 19
            +1
            Quote: CORNET
            what Kasyan with Casper minus photo ..... I’ll shoot!

            from a minus one meter? wait, maybe the minuser will appear, or maybe it will not, not mine
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 12 June 2016 17: 13
            -2
            Quote: CORNET
            what Kasyan with Casper minus photo ..... I’ll shoot!

            Minusil is not me. But for what they minus the photo, I can explain. The one on the right bl indecent appearance. In America, these tight-fitting jeans are mostly worn. black women belay African Americans and Latinos, and from the very bottom (not in terms of income, in terms of culture - may be hung with gold like a Christmas tree in the new year, but you can still see "culture"). And also girls of a certain style when short shorts or mini shorts are not suitable for the weather - it's too cold. And also - a surprise - newcomers from the former USSR, especially from Ukraine. And I'll tell you, this one is still undernourished, and it happens that they pull such on the ass of the size for XXXL - it's something with something.
            Here for this tight-fitting ass, which is unclear whether to walk the child, or to remove the Hahel for the night, I would minus, but by my standards it does not hold out.
        2. megafair
          megafair 12 June 2016 15: 33
          +6
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: megafair
          in that battle, which may be the last - put on a clean white shirt!
          there were so many such battles in the Second World War, there isn’t enough suitcase with you
          Therefore - if in battle, then in a clean shirt, if you survived, you sew from tears and remove from dirt, and again in a white shirt with a clear conscience - you will go into battle! So - at the CONSCIENCE OF THE SOUL OF RUSSIA - the Great Patriotic War and pulled out!

          PS Of course, I do not beg for the merits of those people who formed this "Russian spirit" and who planned everything in such a way that it brought VICTORY !!! But, neither Zhukov, nor Vasilevsky, nor Rokossovsky, nor others - could have led the country to VICTORY if not real people lived in it, those who are "Man with a capital letter" - but all sorts of liberals and crap ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2016 16: 44
            +3
            Quote: megafair
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: megafair
            in that battle, which may be the last - put on a clean white shirt!
            there were so many such battles in the Second World War, there isn’t enough suitcase with you
            Therefore - if in battle, then in a clean shirt, if you survived, you sew from tears and remove from dirt, and again in a white shirt with a clear conscience - you will go into battle!
            ...

            stubborn you, it was not always possible for the soldiers to recover, did you hear about a dream on the go on the march?
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 12 June 2016 15: 56
      +1
      And someone could say, probably even said that muskets are useless and there is nothing better than a crossbow. No. A good soldier with good weapons is still better than just a good soldier.
      1. megafair
        megafair 12 June 2016 16: 21
        +2
        Quote: Captive
        A good soldier with good weapons is better than just a good soldier

        The main thing is not to forget that - even with good weapons - just a soldier - nothing! A soldier loving homeland, even with an ax - can fill up the "hawked European nemchura!":
        Quote: megafair
        Quote: megafair
        Dmitry Romanovich Ovcharenko. He distinguished himself in the initial period of the war, on July 13, 1941, when he entered into battle alone against 50 German soldiers and officers, while using grenades and an ax, he destroyed 21 of them, including two officers.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B2%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D

        0%BE,_%D0%94%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%

        D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 12 June 2016 16: 44
          -1
          Then let's not spend money on developing weapons, but we will buy axes.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 12 June 2016 21: 05
      +7
      Quote: CORNET
      But his ancestors ...
    6. Asadullah
      Asadullah 12 June 2016 22: 42
      +2
      Here he is a Russian soldier! Robots, gentlemen, are useless ..


      Robots are just needed to ensure that these soldiers are left as many as possible alive. Stupidity is not useless, it is murderous. But in war, and criminal.
  2. poquello
    poquello 12 June 2016 13: 58
    0
    Alexey Egorov: There is no bullet "with an offset center of gravity." Although many believe in this myth. If such a bullet were, then it would fly anywhere, but not at the target.

    in how, and how else to call it, it flew anywhere, but from a collision with anything
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 12 June 2016 14: 40
      +5
      Quote: poquello
      in how and what else to call it,

      NO bullets with a displaced center of gravity! There are bullets with low stability. yes
      1. poquello
        poquello 12 June 2016 14: 50
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: poquello
        in how and what else to call it,

        NO bullets with a displaced center of gravity! There are bullets with low stability. yes

        thank you, I will now express myself correctly, otherwise apart from the "somersaults" I did not know more options
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 12 June 2016 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        NO bullets with a displaced center of gravity! There are bullets with low stability.

        This is a question of terminology, well, or common slang, if you like. Another thing is that there are no bullets "with a displaced center of gravity" in the understanding of the layman: such as voids relative to the longitudinal axis of the bullet, or inserts of other materials relative to the same axis, all kinds of balls inside the bullet, etc. By the way, many people think that the famous dum-dum is a bullet with a displaced center of gravity. In fact, our 5,45 bullet also has a center of gravity closer to the tail section than it would be if it were made from a solid material.
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 June 2016 15: 38
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          By the way, many people think that the famous dum-dum is a bullet "with a displaced center of gravity"

          why should "many" know such subtleties about chamomile, well, it is forbidden, it will mutilate, the principle of influence by another - who needs it
      3. V.ic
        V.ic 12 June 2016 15: 27
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        NO bullets with a displaced center of gravity! There are bullets with low stability.

        Since you are so smart, I’ll give a link for those who are not in the topic: http://www.guns.yfa1.ru/puli-so-smeshhennym-centrom-tyazhesti.html
        Related problems also occurred in rotorcraft, in particular flutter of the rotor blades, when the center of gravity of the HB blade is behind the center of pressure. To eliminate this incident, cargo is laid in specially designated places of the blade, after which the center of gravity of the blade is displaced in front of the center of pressure of the blade. But this is only the first step in eliminating flutter ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 June 2016 15: 43
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: Bayonet
          NO bullets with a displaced center of gravity! There are bullets with low stability.

          Since you are so smart, I’ll give a link for those who are not in the topic: http://www.guns.yfa1.ru/puli-so-smeshhennym-centrom-tyazhesti.html
          Related problems also occurred in rotorcraft, ...

          so intentionally or in the process somersault got out, she did somersaults
          1. russmensch
            russmensch 12 June 2016 17: 38
            +1
            I will not argue about the terminology - but here are some facts: 1977, some of them received the AK-74. Received an order to fire weapons to identify the features and subsequent training of fighters. For a puncture, they took a head of cabbage and put it under the helmet. They fired one shot, and the result was that she was all shocked. The effect of the AK-47 is completely different. Another case: a fighter fired a crossbow (did not want to serve) in the upper right chest. Instead of a through hole, as it would be from an AK-47, the bullet came out of the thigh, grinding the botsu's lungs. It turned out that the bullet goes along the "path of least resistance". That is, if it has a bone on its way, then it changes direction and goes along the bone. So the surgeons told us. Further, we realized that using in wooded areas greatly complicates efficiency - when meeting with branches, the bullet changed its flight path. And somewhere in the year 79-80 we were told that the ammunition would be replaced, since it was prohibited by some convention. We still laughed then ...
            1. poquello
              poquello 12 June 2016 17: 58
              0
              Quote: russmensch
              And somewhere in the year 79-80 we were told that the ammunition would be replaced, since they were prohibited by some convention there.

              now everything is converging, they were, just changed
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 12 June 2016 18: 41
            0
            Quote: poquello
            so intentionally or in the process somersault got out, she did somersaults

            Dear, open the textbook to E.S. Wentzel about probability theory and in it Elena Sergeevna will popularly explain to you that the completion of an event will be directly proportional to the PROBABILITY of its occurrence. And why were smart books printed in the USSR?
        2. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 12 June 2016 17: 10
          -2
          And you can not keep it, and just google about these bullets (which are not).
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2016 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: Simpsonian
            And you can not keep it, and just google about these bullets (which are not).

            You can still post a link to what you want to say
            1. Simpsonian
              Simpsonian 12 June 2016 19: 17
              -2
              Who needs to let him google - even a patent for them is easy.
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 12 June 2016 23: 00
                +1
                even a patent on them is easy.


                Which patent? For them under three thousand.

                Actually it gets this nonsense. Such a cartridge is not made not for some humane reasons, but because of its low efficiency, no matter who tells what fables. The bullet must hit the target. The army breaks through, the police stops. If someone likes to "shnkkovat", VOG-25r please, without any "conventions".
                1. Simpsonian
                  Simpsonian 14 June 2016 00: 49
                  0
                  Which is the very first, from the American.

                  5,45 and 5,56 first fall then begin to shred. With a displaced center, they are almost all. That is, if they fall into the leaves then then they don’t really fly straight.
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 12 June 2016 19: 02
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Since you're so smart

          You do not like this definition - a bullet with low stability? So this is a common name, but in your circle, even call it a pot. hi
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 13 June 2016 09: 41
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            You do not like this definition - a bullet with low stability? So this is a common name, but in your circle, even call it a pot.

            I dare not argue! Call it whatever you want in your circle, however, the reason for the appearance of a specific effect / displacement of the center of gravity / = is primary, and low bullet stability = secondary, so to speak "derivative".
      4. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 12 June 2016 22: 09
        +2
        And so that she, a bullet. was unstable, it is necessary that its center of gravity be shifted back and that the speed of its rotation around the axis was reduced. It is stabilized. Then, when it hits the target, it instantly loses its stabilized position, which it had on the flight path, and begins to "roll".
      5. Asadullah
        Asadullah 12 June 2016 22: 48
        0
        There are bullets with low stability.


        Yeah, but they came from a defective party, where they used low-quality foil. Even after a bunch of experiments, the best samples are only suitable for a killer, but not for battle .....
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 June 2016 23: 20
          0
          Quote: Asadullah
          There are bullets with low stability.


          Yeah, but they came from a defective party, where they used low-quality foil. Even after a bunch of experiments, the best samples are only suitable for a killer, but not for battle .....

          there is a little higher comment
          Quote: russmensch
          I will not argue about terminology - but here are some facts: 1977, part received AK-74.

          I just had to remember, they slapped them, give way, what defective nafig, the calculations were defective in the heads of those who armed the army
  3. megafair
    megafair 12 June 2016 14: 08
    +3
    The cycle "Military Acceptance" is a shock breakthrough in the field of information war with "well-wishers" who are sowing our Motherland with Leberals and Democrats ...

    I am very grateful to those People, those who are "Man with a capital letter", who created this project!

    I wish you further development and success!

    YOUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT - with your help - THE VICTORY WILL BE FOR RUSSIA !!!!
  4. shinobi
    shinobi 12 June 2016 14: 12
    +6
    The secret is simple, in relation to war. For the West, for the last 20 years, this is something like a computer game. Sometimes it is disgusting to look at their Veterans of the "Tempest" or Afgan. Crocodile tears are shed, everyone has "psychological trauma" because of being in the war they shoot back and, oh horror, they can kill.
    1. megafair
      megafair 12 June 2016 14: 30
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      The secret is simple, in relation to war. For the West, for the last 20 years, this is something like a computer game. Sometimes it is disgusting to look at their Veterans of the "Tempest" or Afgan. Crocodile tears are shed, everyone has "psychological trauma" because of being in the war they shoot back and, oh horror, they can kill.

      They are gentle, very vulnerable, with an ardent democratic soul, they, these soldiers of "Desert Storm", have boyfriends at home, tolerant, waiting for the "nasty" to return, otherwise they are afraid to miss the LGBT parade ...

      Why are you so strict laughing They are an "exceptional nation" - they are exceptional - you need to take care of them, not injure them;)

      PS I remember a note about a bear that dispersed 3000 contingents, some of the "exceptional" ones were put into diapers ... And I find it difficult to understand what would happen to them with the "exceptional" if instead of a bear I came to them:
      Dmitry Romanovich Ovcharenko. He distinguished himself in the initial period of the war, on July 13, 1941, when he fought alone against 50 German soldiers and officers, while using grenades and an ax, he destroyed 21 of them, including two officers.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B2%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D

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      D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

      PPS Who will start "3.14 to get naked" that he is a prokoukr, I will curse in absentia and sing! You won't be long ...
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 12 June 2016 18: 58
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        Quote: megafair
        I curse in absentia and repose!


        This is already superfluous - they never deserved a funeral!
  5. NDR-791
    NDR-791 12 June 2016 14: 14
    +2
    That’s about journalistic mistakes — that’s right, that’s concrete, and sometimes it’s also possible to restore kirdyk’s trust from the soul. Losing it is easy, but try to earn !!!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 12 June 2016 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: NDR-791
      That’s about journalistic mistakes — that’s right, that’s concrete, and sometimes it’s also possible to restore kirdyk’s trust from the soul. Losing it is easy, but try to earn !!!

      I have a special, "heavy sigh" after which my wife always asks - "What did they say wrong again?" laughing
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 12 June 2016 14: 51
        +1
        Quote: lelikas
        Quote: NDR-791
        That’s about journalistic mistakes — that’s right, that’s concrete, and sometimes it’s also possible to restore kirdyk’s trust from the soul. Losing it is easy, but try to earn !!!

        I have a special, "heavy sigh" after which my wife always asks - "What did they say wrong again?" laughing

        I also sigh heavily .... My wife immediately pays attention! hi
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 12 June 2016 15: 15
      +6
      - "The platoon commander looked around sternly, and pulled the clutch lever. The oscilloscopes shook, and the submarine jerked upward with a swift jack."
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 June 2016 14: 16
    +3
    Wonderful show, I watch it with pleasure. Every year it’s all the more pleasant to watch it. The power of the weapon is felt. Growing every year.
  7. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 12 June 2016 14: 46
    0
    the author apparently redid the title of the book Ernst Hemingway "Long Live Arms"
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 12 June 2016 15: 02
      +3
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      the author apparently redid the title of the book Ernst Hemingway "Long Live Arms"

      Are you kidding me? If farewell is long live, then I'm a phone booth request
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 12 June 2016 15: 50
        0
        Do normal farewell boys do not forgive, but hello!
  8. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 12 June 2016 14: 51
    +1
    "... But you are the first to shoot at our factory for so long: three days .."
    FSB - in the know ?! repeat Went to watch (for the umpteenth time) "Resident's error" .... FSB officers, too, with the Holiday! soldier These guys have strained today as never before ...! hi
  9. fzr1000
    fzr1000 12 June 2016 16: 12
    +1
    I liked everything, but here's why the conversation went about Donald Cook in a well-known manner, I did not quite understand.
  10. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 12 June 2016 17: 32
    +1
    Uranus-9. And it's all about him? not all, but at least something ...
  11. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 12 June 2016 17: 53
    0
    Yes, everything is clear, without boasting and businesslike about what and how the real heroes are engaged in, who should be worn on the hands, but we do not know them at all. Although, after all, these guys we have the whole army: one of them caused fire on themselves, so as not to fall into the hands of monsters, the other, despite a sudden stroke, took his plane away from the village, even forgetting that he could save himself by bailout, the third covered a grenade with himself in order to save a soldier ... And God forbid that Russia always had such dedicated soldiers !!!
  12. aiw
    aiw 12 June 2016 18: 28
    +1
    And again, fairy tales about poor Donald Cook ... guys, well, if you want your reports to be taken seriously - stop circulating fakes!

    And then again "we have such devices, but we will not tell you about them ..." (c)
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 12 June 2016 20: 53
      0
      About Cook. "For what the natives ate Cook", let the fake, so he needs it (in our case, someone also told you about the fake). Well, there are devices that you can't talk about. Do we really have nothing like that. I do not believe tongue .
      1. aiw
        aiw 12 June 2016 22: 15
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        About my fake with Cook, my education (the physics department of Moscow State University, is far from the defense industry) told me.
  13. Forever so
    Forever so 12 June 2016 18: 28
    0
    Thank!! Horror article !!))
  14. Wedmak
    Wedmak 12 June 2016 19: 44
    0
    A laudatory article of some kind. "Military acceptance" certainly shows interesting things, but there are moments where they could have done better. Sometimes an outright blizzard is carried into the cell. Sometimes the respondent is put in a ridiculous position. So they still gain experience and gain. They would take a military consultant or something to the group. Right where they are filming. Surely there is a person who, after looking at the footage, will point out mistakes and shortcomings.
  15. Horde
    Horde 12 June 2016 20: 37
    0
    the article is not laudatory. and obviously, we still don’t know much. and let our partners be afraid