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"Alternative reality" or what would have happened with the Crimea, would it remain a part of Ukraine

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For the Day of Russia, the RT channel published a video in which he told what would have happened in the Crimea if he had not reunited with the Russian Federation.




“In the“ alternative reality ”shown by RT, the attempt to hold a referendum in the Crimea was not crowned with success, and acting at the time of the duties of the President of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, establishes a state of emergency on the territory of the peninsula and introduces troops to major cities” RIA News.

At the same time, Moscow does not react at all to what is happening, declaring “non-interference in the affairs of another state”.

In the fall of the 2014-th Peninsula, Ukrainian neo-Nazis began to patrol, and a year later, Georgia and Ukraine were conducting a joint operation to seize South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

In this scenario, Saakashvili becomes mayor of Simferopol, not the head of the administration of the Odessa region.

Then the Crimeans are sent to war with Russia. Dissenters are declared deserters and put on trial.

The remaining militia in the Crimea are trying to gain a foothold in the Simferopol airport, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces fire at them from heavy weapons, destroying by the way residential buildings.

"Thus, in the" alternative reality "the peninsula in 2015 year becomes the epicenter of a military conflict," - the newspaper notes.

The video ends with the words "we are happy to show others news»And scenes of the celebration on the Peninsula Day of Russia.

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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 11 June 2016 09: 26
    +21
    History knows no subjunctive mood. Now, on the topic: "If only ..." you can fantasize endlessly.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 11 June 2016 09: 32
      +34
      For the Day of Russia, the RT channel published a video in which he told what would have happened in the Crimea if he had not reunited with the Russian Federation.
      And rightly so!
      This is how competently the Russian media should work in the conditions of a hybrid war that the United States and the "collective West" declared to Russia!
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 36
        +15
        Quote: Tatiana
        This is how we must work competently in the conditions of a hybrid war, which the United States and the "collective West" declared to Russia!

        RT worked great! Bravo guys ... The West already squealed from powerlessness and anger from your information .. Thank you! hi
        1. WKS
          WKS 11 June 2016 11: 17
          +9
          There are many options, but one thing is absolutely true - if Crimea remained Ukrainian, now there would be a civil war, and our fleet in Sevastopol would no longer be based.
      2. atalef
        atalef 11 June 2016 09: 41
        .
        Quote: Tatiana
        For the Day of Russia, the RT channel published a video in which he told what would have happened in the Crimea if he had not reunited with the Russian Federation.
        And rightly so!
        This is how competently the Russian media should work in the conditions of a hybrid war that the United States and the "collective West" declared to Russia!

        Quote: Alex Xorkam
        The mentality of the people of Russia, allows you to resist the usual propaganda tricks and serve as an example of a different lifestyle

        handsomely
        Quote: CORNET
        It is terrible to imagine what would have happened if we had not taken the Crimea.

        Yes, nichrome would not have been.
        As there was and does not pass anything there - where Strelkov and polite people did not appear.
        Quote: CORNET
        . Mass exodus of Russians from the massacre

        And what doesn’t the Russians live in the rest of Central Ukraine? But for some reason they only run from there - where they came to save them from the massacre.
        Quote: CORNET
        nothing came of you, thank God!

        One thing came out of all this, that tens of thousands of people died, mostly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one brotherly people.
        Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 49
          +38
          Quote: atalef
          One thing came out of all this, that tens of thousands of people died, mostly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one brotherly people.
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million

          You certainly know better in Israel .... (your relatives in Kiev have settled))) No offense, especially considering that you can’t agree with the Arabs ... We’ll figure it out without you, I promise! hi
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 June 2016 09: 56
            .
            Quote: CORNET
            You certainly know better in Israel

            From Israel - Meehan, from
            Quote: CORNET
            . (your relatives settled in Kiev))

            And why only in Kiev? wink
            Quote: CORNET
            No offense, especially considering that you can’t agree with the Arabs ..

            especially considering - gut, mihan laughing
            Quote: CORNET
            We will figure it out without you, I promise!

            Do not promise what you cannot do.
            Although Meehan is not about you. laughing
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 11 June 2016 10: 25
              +14
              atalef
              Quote: CORNET
              It is terrible to imagine what would have happened if we had not taken the Crimea.
              Yes, nichrome would not have been.
              As there was and does not happen anything there - where Strelkov and polite people did not appear.

              Alexander! Oh, how wrong you are! What are you saying ?! After all, you are a smart person! And your words directly disappoint me in you! Your point of view is absolutely wrong!
              Of course, I understand you. For you, Israel is more important and closer. Indeed, what is Russia for you? Well?! Let’s think about Russia there! Where is Russia - and where is Israel ?!
              Well, so “DO NOT think with your head,” like you, it’s just impossible for a person to do such things anyway! Well, this is not good and ugly!
              You were mistaken, Alexander.

              "Zhirinovsky about UKRAINE. New. He said everything right." Published: 11 apr. 2015
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 11 June 2016 12: 12
                +12
                Quote: Tatyana Of course, I understand you. For you, Israel is more important and closer. Indeed, what is Russia for you? Well?! Let’s think about Russia there! Where is Russia - and where is Israel ?!

                Tatyana, if there were no USSR (Russia), then, as it would be everywhere below, but not for long.

                Soldiers of the Ukrainian auxiliary police (with white bandages) under the supervision of the Germans are preparing for the execution of Jews in Chernigov.
          2. Zaslavsky-S
            Zaslavsky-S 11 June 2016 10: 55
            +5
            His relatives, and they are sitting in the Kremlin. Maybe not so much ... but in the government house, their dime a dozen. And in the Duma, and in the Federation Council.
        2. faiver
          faiver 11 June 2016 10: 04
          +6
          and how many of the Crimea has already escaped?
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 11 June 2016 10: 09
          +18
          Quote: atalef
          As there was and does not pass anything there - where Strelkov and polite people did not appear.

          So is the shooter shot by the police department in Mariupol, people were burned in Odessa, shootings in Mukachevo?
          Quote: atalef
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million

          Is that what you decided for the entire 40 million people? And under the Soviet regime, Ukraine was not homogeneous in its composition, way of thinking, and now when the nationalists came to power, you quickly put all of them into opponents of Russia.
          You may not be visible from Israel, but the site is full of Ukrainians who do not think in pans of brains in pots
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 June 2016 10: 17
            .
            Quote: APASUS
            So is the shooter shot by the police department in Mariupol, people were burned in Odessa, shootings in Mukachevo?

            it’s all one puzzle and one game, the beginning of which was given by the Crimea and Strelkov (who came from the Crimea - to individual initiative) wink
            Quote: APASUS
            Is that what you decided for the entire 40 million people?

            Not for everyone, of course - but the reality is
            Quote: APASUS
            under the Soviet regime, Ukraine was not homogeneous in its composition and way of thinking, and now, when the nationalists came to power, you quickly put everyone in opposition to Russia.

            Blah blah blah - Russia is also not homogeneous, but the vector is clear

            Quote: APASUS
            You may not be visible from Israel, but the site is full of Ukrainians who do not think in pans of brains in pots

            Full laughing
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 11 June 2016 10: 51
              +7
              Not red-handed, but personal, it's not math, keep thinking in Hebrew. Ben Lazar is smarter than you.
            2. Chak
              Chak 11 June 2016 11: 02
              +18
              atalef, the exact diagnosis is made more than half a century ago
            3. viktorR
              viktorR 11 June 2016 13: 22
              +21
              After the speeches by me of not respected Atalef, and his colleagues on the escape from the "prison of peoples" to the "historical homeland", who softly try to convince us that the Ukrainian junta had no choice but to burn down the house of trade unions to kill people in Mariupol and now shell civilians in Donetsk, more and more I come to the idea that fascism has very deep Jewish roots. It is easy enough to understand that a fascist does not have to love Hitler and run around with a swastika in his hands.

              Although I may not be right, I only communicate with immigrant Jews, with indigenous (if there are such people at all) I have never communicated.
              Well, in principle, everything is true, a person who has escaped from his country and says disgusting things from abroad is not a priori adequate.
            4. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 11 June 2016 13: 27
              +22
              Quote: atalef
              it's all one puzzle and one game, the beginning of which gave Crimea

              Ahaha), and I kept thinking when it would write. It turned out the beginning of all this Crimea! Neither European-American cookies, nor European integration without taking into account the interests of Russia, nor the overthrow of the president, nor the violation of the Constitution, nor the armed seizures of administrative buildings, nor the oppression of Russian speakers, nor the murders and arrests of the pro-Russian population ... The beginning of the whole Crimea! Got it ?! Mr. atalef, in turn, I want to make my expert opinion: THE BEGINNING OF THE ISRAEL Jigsaw - the eviction of Arabs from their ancestral territories yes
              1. sherp2015
                sherp2015 11 June 2016 13: 50
                +7
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                and I kept thinking when it would write. It turned out the beginning of all this Crimea!


                They sleep and see when Crimea will be Jewish autonomy.
                As bequeathed Mikoels
            5. APASUS
              APASUS 11 June 2016 14: 12
              +12
              Quote: atalef
              it’s all one puzzle and one game, the beginning of which was given by the Crimea and Strelkov (who came from the Crimea - to individual initiative)

              The puzzle will never work out like that.
              Just out of nowhere Strelkov came and attacked Ukraine, did Moscow come and overcome Crimea?
              Where did the coup in Kiev go? Where did the agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition go, maybe the goal was not Yanukovych, which was so diligently interpreted on the Maidan
            6. ledi-irina
              ledi-irina 11 June 2016 15: 07
              +8
              , which is visible from afar, and in Crimea there was an armory under almost every mosque, Russians were already distributed at home, and friendship trains were heading, but they went to Zaporozhye, thanks to our golden eagle and militias, they stopped 200 stubborn Natsiks on Chongar, and of course nothing there was only a head in bags
            7. andj61
              andj61 11 June 2016 16: 03
              +5
              Quote: atalef
              it’s all one puzzle and one game, the beginning of which was given by the Crimea and Strelkov (who came from the Crimea - to individual initiative)

              Neither Crimea, nor come on a personal initiative ( laughing ) Strelkov
              it has not begun, and, moreover, will not end. Crimea is, perhaps, one of the very few cases when Russia nevertheless responded and defended its. Therefore, in Russia they support the actions of the authorities - over the past quarter century there was not enough reason to be proud of their country.
              And even the authorities realized that being good for the West ("friend Boris - friend Bill") gives the country absolutely nothing and means a path to collapse. The same "friend Bill" condemned "friend Boris" for Chechnya, and in fact the policy of the West was aimed at pushing Russia towards collapse. And Crimea is the result of many years of American policy of isolating Russia - and nothing more.
          2. cap
            cap 11 June 2016 10: 19
            +15
            Quote: APASUS

            Is that what you decided for the entire 40 million people? And under the Soviet regime, Ukraine was not homogeneous in its composition, way of thinking, and now when the nationalists came to power, you quickly put all of them into opponents of Russia.
            You may not be visible from Israel, but the site is full of Ukrainians who do not think in pans of brains in pots


            Why worry Israel. Kiev in their hands chocolate taxis.
            Ukraine, like Palestine, is fighting with its neighbors.

            atalef (8) IL Today, 09: 56 ↑ New
            And why only in Kiev? wink
            Quote: CORNET
            No offense, especially considering that you can’t agree with the Arabs ..

            especially considering - gut, mihan laughing
            Quote: CORNET
            We will figure it out without you, I promise!

            Do not promise what you cannot do.
            Although Meehan is not about you. laughing

            Everything goes according to plan. The CIA steers you can smile. The photo shows the entrance to the SBU building.
            SBU

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        5. Tusv
          Tusv 11 June 2016 10: 12
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million

          A country that defeats reason is our enemy? Do not tell my cats. It's much worse
        6. 0255
          0255 11 June 2016 10: 15
          +12
          Quote: atalef
          And what doesn’t the Russians live in the rest of Central Ukraine? But for some reason they only run from there - where they came to save them from the massacre.

          Atalef, people flee from APU shelling. There is no war in Crimea - no one escapes from there.
        7. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 11 June 2016 10: 18
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          One thing came out of all this, that tens of thousands of people died, mostly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one brotherly people.
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million

          that's for sure, screwed up to a fig! Although this is not jambs, it's someone's benefit
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        10. DV69
          DV69 11 June 2016 10: 24
          +8
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, nichrome would not have been.
          As there was and does not pass anything there - where Strelkov and polite people did not appear.


          Probably this is the notorious Strelkov-Girkin, two buses of the Crimeans, who returned from Kiev after the victory of the Maydauns, stopped and killed people. It was he (Girkin) who sent the "friendship" trains with the nationalists to the Crimea.
          Even on the orders of Girkin, they "burned themselves" in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, residents of Odessa who did not agree with the coup.
          Do not distort.

          P.S. And with the role of Girkin, in the whole history in the South-East of Ukraine, I would like to understand in general. Who and why sent him there at all.
        11. alicante11
          alicante11 11 June 2016 10: 25
          +9
          Yes, nichrome would not have been.
          As there was and does not pass anything there - where Strelkov and polite people did not appear.


          Yeah, nothing happened in Odessa either? And the anti-Maidan convoy was not smashed? But there Strelkova and nebylo close.

          And what doesn’t the Russians live in the rest of Central Ukraine? But for some reason they only run from there - where they came to save them from the massacre.


          Well, the Russians don't "run away" from the Baltic states either. The passive majority is ready to live under any government. But he cannot stand it when they begin to kill him en masse.

          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million


          He would have appeared in any scenario "mos.kalyaku on gilyaku" shouted long before the Crimea and Donbass.
        12. SSR
          SSR 11 June 2016 10: 32
          +3
          Here is a pancake for the first part of the post, plus hunting and for the second minus. Lions in shit is it because the ATO? The farm thrives on the fact that the euro quota has already been selected, people rejoice at the fact that tariffs are rising and there is no salary, and you somehow strangely remain silent about who and why they were growing from the outskirts of the enemy and Nuland even mentioned the amount spent 5 billion dollars.
        13. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 11 June 2016 10: 58
          +5
          For the third year now I have been writing about the phenomenon of Russian-speaking Bandera. and RT at 1:01 breaks all my three-year work to hell. No wonder there are so many dislikes. For Svidomo, this video has become just a holiday "Peremogi" over the propaganda machine RT !!

          To beat and kill in Ukraine political views, another public vision of history, the symbolism of the Victory, but not technical pronunciation from your lips - Russian !!! In Ukraine, the Russian language is infringed in the document flow and in the government. institutions !!! Hack yourself on the nose, dear edition RT!
        14. avva2012
          avva2012 11 June 2016 11: 34
          +1
          Quote: atalef One thing came out of all this, that tens of thousands of people died, mostly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one brotherly people.
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million

          Now, this is brainwashing! Bravo to Western experts. That's what technologies our agents need to do. Other military secrets on destructive power, complete nonsense compared to these weapons.
          Quote: CORNET You certainly know better in Israel ....

          Naturally. And you would also know better after some time. For fun, see Eaton TV in Russian, the politics section. And, in Israel there are still many other channels, naturally already in Hebrew, but with the same content.
          Quote: Tatiana Alexander! Oh, how wrong you are! What are you saying ?! After all, you are a smart person! And your words directly disappoint me in you! Your point of view is absolutely wrong!

          It is useless, Tatyana to turn to logic. Read and think about how you can install the program in a person’s head, and what you need to do to keep your head intact, if that.
        15. AID.S
          AID.S 11 June 2016 11: 40
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          And what doesn’t the Russians live in the rest of the Central Ukraine? But for some reason they run away only from there - where they came to save them from the massacre

          In Odessa, it seems, they saved, once and for all .. they don’t run from there ..
        16. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 11 June 2016 16: 10
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons and a population of 40 million
          And what, Israel, thanks to its peaceful policy, is surrounded by friendly states?
        17. PValery53
          PValery53 11 June 2016 20: 56
          -3
          "atalef (8) Today, 10:17 am ↑
          Quote: APASUS
          So is the shooter shot by the police department in Mariupol, people were burned in Odessa, shootings in Mukachevo?
          it’s all one puzzle and one game, the beginning of which was given by the Crimea and Strelkov (who came from the Crimea - to individual initiative)
          Quote: APASUS
          Is that what you decided for the entire 40 million people?
          Not for everyone, of course - but the reality is
          Quote: APASUS
          under the Soviet regime, Ukraine was not homogeneous in its composition and way of thinking, and now, when the nationalists came to power, you quickly put everyone in opposition to Russia.
          Blah blah blah - Russia is also not homogeneous, but the vector is clear

          Quote: APASUS
          You may not be visible from Israel, but the site is full of Ukrainians who do not think in pans of brains in pots
          Full "

          - A CITIZEN WHAT IS WITH YOU, YOU HAVE A HOT Forehead.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 12 June 2016 21: 44
            +1
            Quote: PValery53
            - A CITIZEN WHAT IS WITH YOU, YOU HAVE A HOT Forehead.

            And what is wrong?
            What doesn’t suit you, maybe you lied where?
        18. jPilot
          jPilot 12 June 2016 02: 35
          +1
          Do not choke on bile negative
          "The only thing that came out of all this was that tens of thousands of people died, mainly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one brotherly people." belay that is, the dead "golden eagle" on the Maidan, those who died in Odessa are due to the referendum in the Crimea and the annexation! wassat, well, you "my friend" NARLETS angry and even more so FALSE
        19. teron
          teron 14 June 2016 14: 13
          0
          "Russia has an enemy with a common border of 2 tons km and a population of 40 million"

          My humble opinion: this enemy of Russia appeared much earlier. Before the liberation of Crimea. Moreover, even if Crimea had not been reunited with Russia in 2014, relations with Ukraine would have been exactly the same.
          We don’t need to powder our brains, dear atalef, we know perfectly well who Bandera is. And how fascist Ukraine will behave, approximately represent.
        20. 30BIS
          30BIS 15 June 2016 14: 37
          0
          You are Honored Artist Whistling Artist of Israel!
        21. Stanislas
          Stanislas 25 March 2017 09: 40
          0
          Quote: atalef
          tens of thousands of people died, mostly Slavs, Ukrainians and Russians - one fraternal people
          You are not scrupulously counting your murdered brothers - Arabs, and you have never heard any regrets and sorrows from the Israelis here, only joy, solid Purim.
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      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 11 June 2016 09: 40
        .
        Quote: Tatiana
        That's to competently and need to work

        ordinary agitpropovsky consumer goods, quite artless.
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 45
          +5
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Quote: Tatiana
          That's to competently and need to work

          ordinary agitpropovsky consumer goods, quite artless.

          I imagine kicks if you were allowed to go there .... Bile would flow like that, on everyone and everything in Russia! Thank God you are only here and you can be controlled ... hi
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. 11 June 2016 09: 52
            -6
            Quote: CORNET
            and you can be controlled ...

            laughing Mikhan, you’ll write yourself in the orderlies of the site, then in the controllers. You already decide)) You do not control anyone, do not flatter yourself.
            1. CORNET
              CORNET 11 June 2016 10: 00
              +3
              Quote: Pinky F.
              Quote: CORNET
              and you can be controlled ...

              laughing Mikhan, you’ll write yourself in the orderlies of the site, then in the controllers. You already decide)) You do not control anyone, do not flatter yourself.

              No, of course ..... I'm just learning! hi laughing You react to me with kicks ..? So on the "hook" ..)))) bully Something again bore me ... wassat
          2. samoletil18
            samoletil18 11 June 2016 09: 55
            +2
            Quote: CORNET
            Quote: Pinky F.
            Quote: Tatiana
            That's to competently and need to work

            ordinary agitpropovsky consumer goods, quite artless.

            I imagine kicks if you were allowed to go there .... Bile would flow like that, on everyone and everything in Russia! Thank God you are only here and you can be controlled ... hi

            We have no control over anyone. Although, to deprive such a smart guy for a month crying ... Torture is also prohibited here. Figs, with him. I don’t even put a minus to him, a lot of honor.
            1. CORNET
              CORNET 11 June 2016 10: 05
              0
              Quote: samoletil18
              We have no control over anyone. Although, to deprive such a wise guy of the couch for a month crying ... Torture is also prohibited here. Figs, with him. I don’t even put a minus to him, a lot of honor.

              Thanks! And then 147 people were recently "kicked off", but the language did not suffer the main thing ... hi And I am a "sitter" with experience ....
              1. lex locis
                lex locis 15 June 2016 11: 24
                0
                Quote: CORNET
                And then 147 people were recently "kicked off", but the language did not suffer the main thing ...


                So admit that they kicked you all the same for the job ...
                Apparently you are a smart person, albeit corrosive, but sometimes it brings you. True like most of us. For humans are the essence ....
            2. Pinkie F.
              Pinkie F. 11 June 2016 10: 09
              -3
              Quote: samoletil18
              Although, to deprive such a smart guy for a month

              for what? Due to the fact that I do not like the quality of this agitation? Or does the alternative story genre imply dull linearity? You liked it, I don’t - what's so strange?
        2. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 11 June 2016 10: 37
          +6
          I will not stop repeating that the tense relations are beneficial to the "tops" of both republics, and even more so to foreign "partners".
          It’s very easy to blame a neighbor, for one - we don’t get a damn because of the aggressor, for others it doesn’t work because there are a lot of people around, and if anything, it will be like on the outskirts, do you want to?
          Meanwhile, the Sberbank in Kuev, Gazprom pumps gas, ammonia, by the way, our bourgeois also pump through the outskirts.
          The oligarchs, both of these, are entwined with their roots and thump together along the mufflers.
          And the question begs: maybe this is a bloody show?
          Or why did the GRU special forces not liquidate all these Natsik-punks at the very beginning and put their pro-Russian mole, for example, in the condos there? but at the time of the Maidan in kakliya, in fact, there was no army! Yes, and all the security forces of "Berkuts" would have instantly crossed over to our side.
          Some questions, damn it.
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 11 June 2016 13: 55
            +3
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            Some questions, damn it.



            Um ... right questions!
          2. jPilot
            jPilot 12 June 2016 10: 22
            +2
            The answers are simple with the coming to power of the marked, and later EBNa to the "steering wheel" were flooded by people who "give a shit" to the country and its development. Their task was and remains, to grab as much as possible and give as little as possible. It was they who elevated to the rank of "national idea": MONEY AT ANY PRICE. As in that cartoon "Tahiti, Tahiti we are fed well here too", moreover, for any shameless arrogance, meanness and robbery they are not even punished, but only slightly moved away from the "trough"
    3. CORNET
      CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 33
      +6
      It’s scary to imagine what would have happened if we hadn’t taken the Crimea ..! American flags are everywhere in Sevastopol ... Russian exodus from the massacre! Padla didn’t work out for you, thank God!
    4. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 11 June 2016 09: 36
      +11
      Quote: oleg-gr
      History does not know the subjunctive mood

      That's right ...
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Now on the topic: "If only ..." you can fantasize endlessly

      This is not so much a fantasy as a simulation of the situation taking into account the conflict in the Donbass. For the characters are the same (at least from the Ukrainian side), only the scene has changed ...

      And this I wrote 4 years ago ...
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 11 June 2016 10: 06
        +1
        Quote: Chicot 1
        Chicot 1

        Absolute classification !!! +100500
    5. Vasiliy16
      Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 11: 30
      +1
      What are smokers on this channel?
      Maybe enough tantrum and escalate the negative?
      It is time to move away from the separation between our peoples.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 11 June 2016 15: 57
        +1
        Quote: Vasiliy16
        What are smokers on this channel?

        Probably the same as on other news channels ... No more, no less ...
        Quote: Vasiliy16
        Maybe enough tantrum and escalate the negative?

        This is not hysteria and negativity, but as I have already voiced above -
        Quote: Chicot 1
        modeling of the situation taking into account the conflict in the Donbass. For the characters are the same (at least from the Ukrainian side), only the scene has changed ...

        Quote: Vasiliy16
        It is time to move away from the separation between our peoples.

        And there was no need to come to this. But the initiative came from the Ukrainian side. And it is she who is not going to make any progress for the better (and with the passage of some time, we may not want it, which is quite natural in such a situation). And you can see for yourself by visiting the "Ukrainian thematic groups" on various, including Russian, sites. I'm not even talking about the purely Ukrainian segment of the Internet ...
        Quote: Vasiliy16
        negative escalate

        And here is an example of a scan of the topic of one of such groups in VK. Of course you can say that on our sites it is full of similar opuses of anti-Ukrainian orientation. And you will be right. But do not forget at the same time (I repeat) that the initiator of all this mess is precisely the Ukrainian side. And it is easy to verify. It is enough to go into the archive of forums of any site and read (above I gave a scan of my comment in one of the topics on our site, you can easily find it and get acquainted with the content) ...
        It is a pity that "funk.ru" has come up. There have been wonderful examples of such discussions ...
        1. Vasiliy16
          Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 16: 07
          0
          Quote: Chicot 1
          And here is an example of a scan of the topic of one of such groups in VK. Of course you can say that on our sites it is full of similar opuses of anti-Ukrainian orientation. And be right

          so maybe even in VO we will not be likened to wretched (Both Russian and Ukrainian) and we will ban vile comments about Ukraine?
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 11 June 2016 16: 22
            0
            Quote: Vasiliy16 and ban the vile comments about Ukraine?

            People who consider UPA-UNSO their heroes deserve something other than the corresponding comments? But for whom did they become vile? For the punishers of Khatyn? In Soviet times, there was a joke. Once the head of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR gathered for a meeting. Ukrainian and says, but that Belarus can supply us except potatoes? In response, I don’t know, maybe potatoes, but what Ukraine, during the war, delivered to us besides policemen?
            1. Vasiliy16
              Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 16: 31
              +1
              Quote: avva2012
              Quote: Vasiliy16 and ban the vile comments about Ukraine?

              People who consider UPA-UNSO their heroes deserve something other than the corresponding comments? But for whom did they become vile? For the punishers of Khatyn? In Soviet times, there was a joke. Once the head of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR gathered for a meeting. Ukrainian and says, but that Belarus can supply us except potatoes? In response, I don’t know, maybe potatoes, but what Ukraine, during the war, delivered to us besides policemen?

              They have been brainwashed for 20 years. At VO there are also enough people who think not with their own heads, but stupidly believe in the TV, and it is useless to argue with them.
              P / S / HOW CAN WE STOP TAKING CARE?
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 11 June 2016 16: 38
                +1
                Quote: Vasiliy16
                HOW DO WE STOP SHRIMPING?

                There is a good joke in the subject. But, if I put it here - I’ll be banned nafig ...
              2. avva2012
                avva2012 11 June 2016 16: 47
                +1
                The problem is that in Russia it is not clear who owns the TV. The fact that there, on TV: Svanidze, "dancing with the Nazis", speaks of what our people think with their own heads, once they express sober thoughts. Sometimes emotional, but their own.
    6. Weyland
      Weyland 12 June 2016 00: 13
      0
      Quote: oleg-gr
      History does not know the subjunctive mood.


      The phrase is as famous as false! Alternative versions of history were considered by Plutarch in his "Comparative Biographies"!
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  2. saniajan
    saniajan 11 June 2016 09: 30
    +19
    ... And not only that, now Crimea would be almost the next state of America with a bunch of military bases and a disempowered population, traditionally equated with slaves
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 11 June 2016 09: 44
      +4
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      ... And not only that, now Crimea would be almost the next state of America with a bunch of military bases and a disempowered population, traditionally equated with slaves

      I completely agree with you! As if I’ve been removed from the language. And your script, an almost complete copy of the script that the CIA found on the internet. I don’t remember how much the Yankees beat us, but no more than two weeks. And the plot or script of RT from a finger, about the fact that Bandera would have patrolled Crimea. Bandera would have died in the war in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, like those Arabs who are fighting for the opposition. By the way, the Americans went through it again with their planes.
  3. Lens
    Lens 11 June 2016 09: 33
    -3
    Alternative reality ... Alternative history ... But her life is real. If you believe youtube - there is now no alternative hopelessness ...
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 11 June 2016 10: 03
      +6
      And you yourself will go there. I once saw a tube about my hometown. The devastation is terrible. And this turned out to be a neighboring yard, where a new playground was put up, and laid out about a complete one.
      1. Lens
        Lens 11 June 2016 10: 32
        -1
        I will answer honestly and without politicking. After all the Russian and Ukrainian "victories" my financial situation does not allow me to go there. mister dollar pirouette and i get three times less. So Kerch and Yevpatoria, where they had been before, became just memories. And what about YouTube ... If there was only one video, and so ... But, to my credit, I saw the victorious realizations of local officials - victorious no worse than ours!
        1. viktorR
          viktorR 11 June 2016 14: 10
          +2
          But I live here, and nothing, financially, is definitely not worse than in Ukraine. But we didn’t sign up for Crimea’s self-defense for this.
          By the way, there are no fewer videos on YouTube in which everything is positive, and from the residents, and not from the "victors", you simply subconsciously choose nasty things, either envy or resentment.
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      1. Vasiliy16
        Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 14: 17
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Lens
        If you believe youtube - there is now no alternative hopelessness ...

        Hawaii is further Ukrainian media, probably delicious for gourmets, even shit.

        Acceleration of picket of Crimean Cossacks by cops in Simferopol 6 on May 2016

        elderly person is demonstrably broken.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 11 June 2016 15: 02
          +6
          Acceleration of picket of Crimean Cossacks by cops in Simferopol 6 on May 2016

          That is, you can hold unauthorized rallies, right? "Take a walk in the field", it's called, whatever I want, then I turn. In Russia, despite the liberal laws, you cannot touch a policeman while on duty. In the United States, for this, they would be shot on the spot. The video is obviously provocative, but then who are you, good gentleman, since you distribute it?
          1. Vasiliy16
            Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 16: 20
            -4
            Quote: avva2012
            Acceleration of picket of Crimean Cossacks by cops in Simferopol 6 on May 2016

            That is, you can hold unauthorized rallies, right? "Take a walk in the field", it's called, whatever I want, then I turn. In Russia, despite the liberal laws, you cannot touch a policeman while on duty. In the United States, for this, they would be shot on the spot. The video is obviously provocative, but then who are you, good gentleman, since you distribute it?

            Pay attention to how long 4 police handcuffs are wearing. But man does not resist. Policemen revel in power.
            These Cossacks stood together with the Golden Eagle on Perekop.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 11 June 2016 16: 32
              +1
              Pay attention to how long 4 police handcuffs wear. But man does not resist. The cops revel in power. These Cossacks stood together with the Golden Eagle on Perekop.

              Firstly, it’s your policemen, and in Russia, policemen, civil servants. People have a heavy duty. Do you want, like in Ukraine, to be burned? No respect for the authorities, what is it? Maidan begins with this.
              Secondly, how do you know that you stood? Daughter of a Crimean officer?
              I repeat once again that not fulfilling the requirements of the police is a crime in any country. You can’t categorically touch a policeman. The meeting is not agreed. Kindly, go your separate ways. We started to provoke.
              The avatar is not comme il faut. "What don't dress up, but don't be musicians."
              1. Vasiliy16
                Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 20: 06
                0
                Quote: avva2012
                People have a heavy duty.

                four old man swaddle?
                Quote: avva2012
                No respect for the authorities, what is it?

                I value actions, not people. And it doesn’t matter to me who the person is - power or not power, if he is.
                Quote: avva2012
                Secondly, how do you know that you stood?

                personally acquainted with some participants. and they stood at checkpoints not knowing that Togliatti began to arrive in Kazachka in November.
                Quote: avva2012
                The meeting is not agreed

                Have you tried to coordinate the rally?
                Quote: avva2012
                Avatar is not comme il faut.

                Stalin, for all his controversy, deserves respect for the development of the country.
  4. Wolverine
    Wolverine 11 June 2016 09: 34
    +5
    Russia would not allow this under any circumstances ....
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 41
      +3
      Quote: Wolverine
      Russia would not allow this under any circumstances ....

      Oh don’t know don’t know ... We were weak then! Everything started from the Crimea, it turned out brilliantly with us ...
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 June 2016 09: 36
    +8
    Well I do not know. This is simply unbelievable, since our base in Sevastopol was evaporated at that moment? And how could the Crimeans be driven into a war with Russia, if in the Crimea, God forbid, Natsik defeated, and generally won everywhere? To declare war on Russia in such a scenario would be genuine suicide.
    It was impossible to leave Crimea in Maidan under any sauce, there would be a lot of blood. My friends said that the Crimean Tatars were campaigning for the massacre among the Russian-speaking population. Add the Neo-Bandera people there - terrible consequences to imagine.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 11 June 2016 13: 58
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It was impossible to leave Crimea in Maidan under any sauce, there would be a lot of blood.


      And Ukraine could not be let go, just like the USSR was destroyed.
      See what happened?
  6. Lester7777
    Lester7777 11 June 2016 09: 36
    +3
    "... in a year, Georgia and Ukraine will conduct a joint operation."
    This is where the story of an alternative European Ukraine would have ended.
  7. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 11 June 2016 09: 39
    +8
    Well now it’s possible to hook on Wishlist of Kiev and its owners lol RT trolling chic good The answer to the Anglo-Saxons with their horror story about the capture of the Baltic states by Russia angry And a hint to the residents of Crimea about their correct choice smile
  8. isker
    isker 11 June 2016 09: 45
    +1
    unconvincing and not true!

    best of all, this topic is covered by "Ivrekh" in his article "... or a message to the kuevlyans", yes there - on the shelves, with facts, and therefore - much more terrible than in this leaflet
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 11 June 2016 10: 08
      0
      On RT, you should be as delicate as possible. For example, what am I not getting into the Presidents? I'm worried about the planet. I can answer the provocation toughly. And any media is a potential provocateur.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 11 June 2016 10: 24
        -2
        Quote: samoletil18
        And any media is a potential provocateur.

        that's it. What is the message of this agitation? As the Arabs say - "Show them death and they will come to terms with the fever"?
  9. dvg1959
    dvg1959 11 June 2016 09: 49
    +3
    There is no doubt, it would be the same as in the Donbas.
    And Sevastopol would be the base of the United States.
    And the Black Sea is the inner lake of the United States.
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 11 June 2016 09: 52
      +2
      Quote: dvg1959
      There is no doubt, it would be the same as in the Donbas.
      And Sevastopol would be the base of the United States.
      And the Black Sea is the inner lake of the United States.

      I think even the Crimean Tatars ran to Russia to save themselves ...
    2. atalef
      atalef 11 June 2016 09: 54
      .
      Quote: dvg1959
      And the Black Sea is the inner lake of the United States.

      And Crimea turns the Black Sea into an open ocean belay
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 11 June 2016 10: 38
        +9
        And Crimea turns the Black Sea into an open ocean,
        Crimea, this is full control of the Black Sea.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 11 June 2016 10: 47
        +5
        No, to the inner lake of Russia laughing hi
  10. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 11 June 2016 09: 52
    -1
    And why the video stubbornly does not want to open? am
  11. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 11 June 2016 09: 58
    +4
    It is terrible to think what would happen to Crimea and its population as part of Ukraine, in time Russia delivered it from this nightmare.
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 11 June 2016 10: 00
    +6
    Quote: CORNET
    It is terrible to imagine what would have happened if we had not taken the Crimea ..!

    In general, they did not take him; colossal work was carried out by the GRU and the FSB. The population was largely determined by itself, and the Ukrainian garrisons, where negotiations, where the blockade were forced to surrender their weapons, to the great disappointment of our American "partners", because they also had their own plans, but alas, Putin outplayed them.
    There simply couldn’t be any other outcome; the main thing was to avoid numerous victims.
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 June 2016 10: 13
      .
      Quote: avg-mgn
      because they also had their own plans, but alas, Putin outplayed them

      Replayed in what?
      What allowed the fraternal trance to fall naked in the clutches of NATo like this?
      What did 40 million who hate Russia get?
      Got a new cold war?
      Sanctions?
      Arms race?
      The fall in living standards of Russians?
      Reducing programs for education, healthcare, culture?
      Putin, along with Lavrov, first laid off Ukraine, and then received the enemy.
      outplayed in what? If Ukraine had remained a friendly state, there would have been neither NATO in Crimea (as the monogies say), nor a hostile state with 40 million people, nor killed Russians and Urains, nor sanctions, nor the Cold War and the arms race.
      So what did you beat?
      1. DV69
        DV69 11 June 2016 10: 29
        +8
        Putin, together with Lavrov, first laid off Ukraine

        Not Putin and Lavrov, but Gorbachev and Shevarnadze.
        Stay Ukraine as a friendly state

        Would not stay. The direct descendants of Bandera and, excuse me, the representatives of your people who joined and headed them, did not arrange a state coup for that.
        And about beat or not - time will tell.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 11 June 2016 11: 42
          -1
          Quote: DV69 Would not stay. Direct descendants of Bandera and, excuse me, the representatives of your people who joined and headed them did not arrange for a state coup. And about beat or not - time will tell.

          There is a video, there your thought is developed and supplemented. On the topic: from 1: 00: 00 to 1: 05: 00. But, in general, the conversation is interesting and informative, in my opinion.
          1. DV69
            DV69 11 June 2016 12: 36
            0
            Quote: avva2012
            There is a video, there your thought is developed and supplemented.

            I myself can develop and supplement. It’s just a long time, and I don’t want any (unfounded) accusations of anti-Semitism hi
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 11 June 2016 13: 00
              +1
              Quote: DV69 I myself can develop and supplement. It’s just a long time, and I don’t want any (unfounded) accusations of anti-Semitism hi

              hi What you add, I understood it. The person reading your comment can listen to the video for an additional 5 minutes, how information about the "descendants of Bandera" and why Ukraine is the way it is now.
      2. vanavatny
        vanavatny 11 June 2016 10: 32
        +2
        Ukraine has been dragged into NATO since 1991, away from Russia, according to the precepts of one German chancellor from the last century, it has been invested in this a lot and we didn’t have to measure our wallets with them, especially after the collapse of the state - what does Putin and Lavrov have to do with about falling it was none of your business in Russia, and what nonsense about the arms race? it supposedly stopped only when we disarmed to a state of complete inability to repulse anything, and a hostile state with a 40 mil population is not 40 million hostile - there is a difference, and again, all this is none of your business
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 11 June 2016 10: 42
        +5
        Putin and Lavrov first destroyed Ukraine, and then received the enemy. ,,
        Yeltsin started to bury her. Bandera went right away, even with Kravchuk. Russia was weak, they tried to flirt with the so-called elite. It was necessary then to press economically — you won’t deal with banderlogs — turn off the gas and all kinds of sweets.
      4. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 11 June 2016 10: 46
        +7
        Quote: atalef
        What did 40 million who hate Russia get?


        Alexander, you vouch for these words ?!

        Putin, along with Lavrov, first laid off Ukraine, and then received the enemy.

        In 1993, I was with my son in Crimea (then neither Putin nor Lavrov was in power), at the railway station in Simferopol I heard two Ukrainian women throwing words in my back: "We come in large numbers here." To say that it was offensive is to say nothing, I was born and raised in Crimea. When it all started in March 2014, I calmed down only after the referendum, because all my relatives live there, and I was very scared for them.
      5. Winnie76
        Winnie76 11 June 2016 12: 42
        +8
        Quote: atalef
        Replayed in what?

        Nothing, but where ... In Crimea, And now Ukraine has a suitcase without a handle for the states
        Quote: atalef
        What allowed the fraternal trance to fall naked in the clutches of NATo like this?
        What did 40 million who hate Russia get?

        It was in the fraternal country that they shouted "Mos ... ku to gilyaku", "we do not want to join the taiga union, we want to go to Europe" long before the Crimea and Donbass? There are such and all other brothers and non-brothers.
        Quote: atalef
        Got a new cold war?
        Sanctions?
        Arms race?
        The fall in living standards of Russians?

        Not we started it. We didn’t accept everyone who didn’t get into NATO, we didn’t try to brazenly get into the Russian market duty-free through Ukraine, we didn’t give out cookies and made promises on the Maidan. The West has fundamentally ignored Russian interests and will now receive it in full. And in war, as you know, as in war.

        And by the way, the West and I have a different understanding of war. Whether an ordinary Frenchman or a German with an American is ready to accept the hardships and hardships associated with it. The war with Russia is not to drive bearded earhooks across the desert - this is when they will fly to you in full response.
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 11 June 2016 12: 50
          +5
          What are you explaining to him? Yes, he has long dumped, no matter, a parrot, a scarecrow or a carcass. wink
      6. stas132
        stas132 11 June 2016 13: 27
        +9
        I could not stand it, I will also take part .. Work on the collapse of relations has been carried out since the times of the USSR, an example of this is a bunch of anecdotes about the attitude of Ukrainians to Russians. So, the last twenty-three years have just been the home stretch, under favorable conditions, and, as a result, the maidan of the brain. There are no 40 million already in Ukraine, minus the elderly and children, minus the “winners” in boilers of various sizes, we get 20-25 active population. Of these, in my personal opinion, as a Ukrainian with experience, 50/50 for friendship and against. So it's not worth talking about 40 million. The Cold War did not go anywhere, changed shape and intensity, but never ended. An example is the expansion of the alliance, encouraging the limitrophes to yelp and mischief, the North Caucasus, etc. Sanctions, yes we are always under them. The law of the broom, the capture and landing of our citizens, the blocking of foreign markets, the enslaving terms of assistance in the 90s .. Now at least they paid attention to their production and defense industry, which is a blessing. I am ready to feed only my army. Falling living standards, well, I won't have three cars and five TV sets, and to hell with them. I will always earn money to take the children to the sea. And I will go to Crimea or Krasnodar Territory, or to Baikal. Or somewhere else .. good, the country is not like a hole from a button on a map. Education and healthcare, yes. Unfortunately, repair initiatives have been taken up. I hope that understanding will come to this too. There are calls - a shortage of engineers and scientists of a new generation. And the actions of Lavrov and Putin are a reaction to something that was laid down much earlier. Back in the 40s, when the Bandera members were not finished off, unfortunately.
      7. Senior manager
        Senior manager 11 June 2016 15: 17
        +4
        IMHO. Atalef from the State Department, probably in the state, a smart dog, literate. And simply a provocateur. All the aforementioned hardships for Russia grew out of Fashington's actions - everyone knows this, without propaganda. And Atalef doesn't know. And he does not know about the plans of the CIA, about the collapse of the USSR. You dear Atalef would read the newspapers, no matter how it all began, with what ... And so sculpt a hunchback against the wall. For every word you say, there is a specific explanation, both factual and unattractive. It makes no sense to rake a pile of garbage that you are fencing, although you must pay tribute - sometimes you are quite adequate. This was the pattern used by the "voices" in Soviet times. What, the instruction was not rewritten?
      8. andj61
        andj61 11 June 2016 16: 20
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Putin, along with Lavrov, first laid off Ukraine, and then received the enemy.
        outplayed in what? If Ukraine had remained a friendly state, there would have been neither NATO in Crimea (as the monogies say), nor a hostile state with 40 million people, nor killed Russians and Urains, nor sanctions, nor the Cold War and the arms race.
        So what did you beat?

        It’s hard to argue that our Ukraine and I didn’t finish it ... It’s just that Putin and Lavrov didn’t miss it, but the State Department achieved its goal after 20 years. And how much money fell into it ... Ours, of course, interests in Ukraine, unlike the Americans, did not provide. But the point here was not Putin, but Yanukovych, whose lack of power was enough to stop the unrest. Moreover, this could be done quite simply and without blood. And Putin has already chosen the bad one from a bad and very bad option.
        1. Vasiliy16
          Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 16: 23
          0
          Quote: andj61
          Ours, of course, did not ensure the advancement of our interests in Ukraine, unlike the Americans. But the point here was not Putin, but Yanukovych, whose lack of power was enough to stop the unrest.

          and who appointed the ambassador?
          1. andj61
            andj61 11 June 2016 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: Vasiliy16
            and who appointed the ambassador?

            Both Zurabov and Chernomyrdin are a failure of Russian politics in Ukraine. Only they were not just ambassadors of Russia, and not the presidents or prime ministers of this country, appointed from abroad. But those who came after Yanukovych were appointed from there ...
      9. Samoyed
        Samoyed 15 June 2016 11: 41
        0
        No, the Ukrainians themselves were eager for Europe, as were the Baltic states. Remember, in the late perestroika, how we all swore to the USSR. Only then it began to reach. But everyone was sure that Western industrial achievements would be added to the free benefits of socialism. But, socialism was nullified and capitalism began to determine the policy of the authorities.
        1. Vasiliy16
          Vasiliy16 18 June 2016 01: 51
          0
          Quote: Samoyed
          No, the Ukrainians themselves were eager for Europe, as were the Baltic states. Remember, in the late perestroika, how we all swore to the USSR. Only then it began to reach. But everyone was sure that Western industrial achievements would be added to the free benefits of socialism. But, socialism was nullified and capitalism began to determine the policy of the authorities.

          Not Ukrainians, but their rulers.
          Otherwise, according to your logic, the Russians made themselves Platon, raised prices for everything, ruined education and science, and so on.
    2. CORNET
      CORNET 11 June 2016 10: 54
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Quote: CORNET
      It is terrible to imagine what would have happened if we had not taken the Crimea ..!

      In general, they did not take him; colossal work was carried out by the GRU and the FSB. The population was largely determined by itself, and the Ukrainian garrisons, where negotiations, where the blockade were forced to surrender their weapons, to the great disappointment of our American "partners", because they also had their own plans, but alas, Putin outplayed them.
      There simply couldn’t be any other outcome; the main thing was to avoid numerous victims.

      They took it and almost bloodless, they shot several idiots ..))) And there were a lot of referenda in our history! The referendum in Crimea just coincided with many interests in Russia, otherwise Russia would not have, such a feeling
  13. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 11 June 2016 10: 06
    +6
    I wonder why they criticize this video, why they call it propaganda husk. Russian channels take an example from democracies that talk on television about the capture of the Baltic states by Russia.
    Regarding the problems of those where Girkin and the company came, and the lack of problems where they do not exist. If they don’t shoot, this does not mean that there are no problems. In order to be calm in the Donbass, you need to push the border for the Dnieper River to Kiev. Then you can say. That where Girkin came there is calm.
    Regarding the appearance of the enemy country with 2000 km of border. I’ll tell you a secret for the last 25 years they were not friends, they just used us (Russia). The United States has no friends and s.ra.li they are on my other countries. So, Russia began to do exactly the same its interests above all others
    As to the impossibility of finding the US fleet in Sevastopol due to the location of our fleet, as far as I remember, the lease expires soon, and to organize the mass demands of democratic people with demands for the withdrawal of the fleet is as simple as reviewing or leaving a good mess.
  14. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 June 2016 10: 11
    .
    Lies are like everyone else. Yesterday, everyone was convinced watching the video where the untouchable edrotatuped rushes at the motorcyclist. however, on TV they showed that it would be the other way around.
    here, too, Odessa and the murder of Russians in the Donbass occurred after the Crimean. What is the cause, and what is the effect. And then we must not forget that the partner of the Kremlin president, Poroshenko paid heavy taxes to the Kremlin treasury.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 11 June 2016 11: 00
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      do not forget that the partner of the Kremlin president, Poroshenko paid heavy taxes to the Kremlin treasury

      Gardamir hi

      - the fact that you really do not like (to put it mildly) the Kremlin president is well known

      What about "not sickly taxes to the Kremlin treasury":

      - taxes are transferred to the budget of the Russian Federation, dear, and not to the "treasury" some kind of incomprehensible fellow
      - One and a half lard rubles approximately. $ 25 million
      - on the scale of the Russian Federation - it’s not even a drop in the ocean yes

      Quote: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roshen
      OJSC Lipetsk Confectionery Factory Roshen (Russia). It was acquired in 2002. For the period from 2013 to 2015, the factory transferred a little more than a billion rubles (about 330 million hryvnias) to the Russian budget. Since mid-2013, production volumes have halved; by 2016, only 800 out of 1800 people worked “at their peak”

      This is me to the fact that:

      - there is such a science - mathematics is called wink
      - and for bazaar words are usually answered, actually yes
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 11 June 2016 11: 06
        -7
        to the budget
        So Dmitry Anatolyevich said no money.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 11 June 2016 12: 07
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          So Dmitry Anatolyevich said no money

          - LADY said "not yet." As I heard, something has already been "found" even belay
          - Below the picture about the budget for 2016. Please note in which units there are amounts
          - I’ll tell you: they are in trillions. A trillion is 10 ^ 12, or a million millions

          Did you mention Poroshenko’s taxes for some reason request
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 11 June 2016 17: 30
            -4
            Did you mention Poroshenko’s taxes for some reason
            will you decide whether he is your partner or not?
        2. DV69
          DV69 11 June 2016 12: 38
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          to the budget
          So Dmitry Anatolyevich said no money.


          25 lard green - for Russia is not money, as well as for any more or less large country.
          1. Vasiliy16
            Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 12: 45
            +1
            Quote: DV69
            25 lard green - for Russia is not money, as well as for any more or less large country.

            So make pensions worthy!
            1. DV69
              DV69 11 June 2016 12: 57
              +2
              Quote: Vasiliy16
              Quote: DV69
              25 lard green - for Russia is not money, as well as for any more or less large country.

              So make pensions worthy!


              And apart from pensions worthy in the country, nothing needs to be done?
              We are re-equipping the army and navy, and if we do not, then pensions may disappear altogether due to the lack of a country.
              We are building new enterprises and infrastructure facilities, and if we do not, then there will simply be no place to take pensions.
              In addition, I repeat, 25 lard greens - for our country is not money, it is not much.
              1. Vasiliy16
                Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 13: 01
                -3
                Quote: DV69
                Quote: Vasiliy16
                Quote: DV69
                25 lard green - for Russia is not money, as well as for any more or less large country.

                So make pensions worthy!


                And apart from pensions worthy in the country, nothing needs to be done?
                We are re-equipping the army and navy, and if we do not, then pensions may disappear altogether due to the lack of a country.
                We are building new enterprises and infrastructure facilities, and if we do not, then there will simply be no place to take pensions.
                In addition, I repeat, 25 lard greens - for our country is not money, it is not much.

                Are you ready to live on a pension of 12000 rubles, having worked at school for 50 years?
                1. DV69
                  DV69 11 June 2016 18: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Vasiliy16
                  Are you ready to live on a pension of 12000 rubles, having worked at school for 50 years?


                  My mother worked at school for 49 years, she has a pension of 18000 rubles.
                  1. Vasiliy16
                    Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 19: 52
                    0
                    Quote: DV69
                    My mother worked at school for 49 years, she has a pension of 18000 rubles.

                    and mine at the same time 13000 rubles. primary classes.
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 11 June 2016 17: 34
                -2
                for our country is not money, it is not very much.
                you mister liars said foolishness. if this is not money for you, then why is the indexation of pensions delayed, why is the retirement age postponed? And why did the USSR, which was always under sanctions, find money for everything and for re-equipment and for the construction of kindergartens and schools ...
              3. Gardamir
                Gardamir 11 June 2016 17: 34
                0
                for our country is not money, it is not very much.
                you mister liars said foolishness. if this is not money for you, then why is the indexation of pensions delayed, why is the retirement age postponed? And why did the USSR, which was always under sanctions, find money for everything and for re-equipment and for the construction of kindergartens and schools ...
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 11 June 2016 13: 01
            +4
            Quote: DV69
            25 lard green

            If you are talking about Poroshenko’s taxes, then

            - there is $ 25 million request
            - it's 25 million. 1000 times smaller than

            Quote: DV69
            not money for Russia
            1. DV69
              DV69 11 June 2016 18: 06
              +3
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Quote: DV69
              25 lard green

              If you are talking about Poroshenko’s taxes, then

              - there is $ 25 million request
              - it's 25 million. 1000 times smaller than

              Quote: DV69
              not money for Russia

              I apologize. Mixed up. Then it is all the more not money
  15. Valevampo
    Valevampo 11 June 2016 10: 17
    +5
    I wonder why they criticize this video, why they call it propaganda husk. Russian channels take an example from democracies that talk on television about the capture of the Baltic states by Russia

    Gold words! I fully support how it was removed from the lips
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 June 2016 10: 21
      -9
      . Russian channels set an example from democratic countries
      If you find out that someone got rich by robberies, will you take an example from him?
      1. screw cutter
        screw cutter 13 June 2016 13: 35
        0
        At least two got rich by robbery, this is Britain and its offspring of the USA. There were others, but they somehow do not look against their background.
        It is from these so-called "civilized countries" that we are encouraged to follow an example.
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  16. zakamsk1971
    zakamsk1971 11 June 2016 10: 43
    +1
    A rush of some kind, not an alternative reality!
    It would just be a VM base of the USA and that’s it.
    Central Russia and the Black Sea region are under tight control, and ,, smoke bamboo ,,.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 June 2016 10: 49
      +1
      Central Russia and the Black Sea region
      How much from Kharkov to Moscow?
  17. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 11 June 2016 10: 49
    +7
    Quote: atalef
    Replayed in what?
    What allowed the fraternal trance to fall naked in the clutches of NATo like this?
    What did 40 million who hate Russia get?

    I do not understand. Did Russia make Kiev fall naked in the arms of NATO?
    Did Russia bring up banderlogs in Ukraine and put weapons in their hands?
    Or do you think that the return of the Crimea was a mistake? Ask Crimeans whom Ukrainian scum humiliated, beaten and killed, they will tell you a lot of things.
  18. Masters
    Masters 11 June 2016 10: 52
    +4
    Quote: oleg-gr
    History knows no subjunctive mood. Now, on the topic: "If only ..." you can fantasize endlessly.

    It was only necessary to add that the Pentagon had already announced a tender to remake 2 schools of Sevastopol into barracks
  19. Chak
    Chak 11 June 2016 11: 26
    +3
    That's right - "from Ukraine"
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 June 2016 11: 26
    +2
    In my opinion, it makes no sense to discuss it. And so everything is clear, the Bandera would begin to kill the Russians, and especially for the purpose of showing off especially cynical. But there is our fleet and marines, and it would have started, mom did not grieve. Perhaps the NATO would have pulled themselves, well, further on the rise. Of course, we would have broken the horns of them, but what the Lord would know what it would end up in. History does not know the subjunctive mood, so guessing is pointless. hi
  21. Olegi1
    Olegi1 11 June 2016 11: 28
    +4
    Quote: oleg-gr
    History knows no subjunctive mood. Now, on the topic: "If only ..." you can fantasize endlessly.


    That's for sure. But if we continue the logic of RT, I'm afraid it would be much worse. Do not forget that the Black Sea Fleet is based in the Crimea, and this is not only 20000 military personnel, but also their families. And Natsik would have fallen on them, for sure. With all the consequences. We had to take Crimea in any way, in order to prevent NATO and the mass genocide of Russians from being based there. And this is a full-fledged war. Only by the rules of others, that is, imposed on us, inevitable and therefore much more bloody. In general, we did everything right.
  22. sergey2017
    sergey2017 11 June 2016 11: 47
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    For the Day of Russia, the RT channel published a video in which he told what would have happened in the Crimea if he had not reunited with the Russian Federation.
    And rightly so!
    This is how competently the Russian media should work in the conditions of a hybrid war that the United States and the "collective West" declared to Russia!

    The transmission of this video must be broadcast throughout Ukraine! Maybe the undecided people will stir up, and will throw off this Kiev power!
  23. sabakina
    sabakina 11 June 2016 12: 19
    +5
    If yes kady, then mushrooms would grow in the mouth! The story with the Crimea took place, just like the Great October Revolution! No, I don't mind thinking about what would happen if? ... "If" would not be! Well, if you don't have a time machine ... The main thing is not to forget how it was!
  24. Whowhy
    Whowhy 11 June 2016 13: 38
    +1
    I have been to Crimea many times in Soviet times, and 2003 went there again, already with my children. I was struck, as they say, to the depths of my soul, the devastation that reigned there at that time ... I could not understand at all - how can so much be destroyed and plundered in such a short time ...
    1. Vasiliy16
      Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 14: 01
      -8
      Quote: whowhy
      I was struck, as they say, to the depths of my soul, the devastation that reigned there at that time ...

      Go to any Sevastopol forum and read. In the city there is a mess and lawlessness, which was not even under the Ukrainians. And on TV in the evening only about the problems of Ukrainians.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 13 June 2016 01: 25
        +2
        Quote: Vasiliy16
        Go to any Sevastopol forum and read

        - give an example. One or two links in total. Do not skimp, you will not lose

        Quote: Vasiliy16
        In the city there is a mess and lawlessness, which was not even under the Ukrainians

        - here is one example about "mess and lawlessness", if not difficult, and

        Quote: Vasiliy16
        on TV in the evening only about the problems of Ukrainians

        - and the second - about the TV program

        While it seems to me that you .. this .. drive. I went, for the sake of interest, to the "Sevastopol MegaWattnikov Forum". I did not find anything that you declare here. Maybe I don't know how to search ... request

        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 June 2016 02: 20
          +2
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Maybe I don’t know how to search ...

          Kaneshno you can’t. Around the guano you walk, and you do not fit. wassat
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 13 June 2016 15: 57
            +1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Around the guano you walk, and you do not fit

            - And what - is it necessary to fit in? Otherwise, like - nekomilfo? belay
      2. dima36
        dima36 25 March 2017 09: 44
        0
        let them decide
  25. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 11 June 2016 16: 24
    0
    Quote: stas132
    Work on the collapse of relations has been going on since the time of the USSR, as an example, a lot of jokes about the relationship of Ukrainians to Russians.

    I agree with many of your arguments, but ... You heard, read Ukrainian jokes about Russians? I don’t provide links, just type in your search engine at your leisure ... that I don’t remember the case that a geologist or Chukchi grabbed a weapon, I’m silent about Vovochka (I’m silent myself). So here our opinions differ. With understanding, Russian.
    1. dima36
      dima36 25 March 2017 09: 48
      0
      the question is not in the USSR but that people knew how to go on .a right now in Ukraine such that even the rich in akhui. and everything goes to Maidan 3
  26. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 11 June 2016 17: 22
    0
    And what the hell are we talking about?
    If my grandmother had yaiks She would be a grandfather.
    1. dima36
      dima36 25 March 2017 09: 50
      0
      laugh and we will look at the degradation of your homeland
  27. Cobra77
    Cobra77 11 June 2016 19: 16
    0
    Quote: Vasiliy16
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Lens
    If you believe youtube - there is now no alternative hopelessness ...

    Hawaii is further Ukrainian media, probably delicious for gourmets, even shit.

    Acceleration of picket of Crimean Cossacks by cops in Simferopol 6 on May 2016
    elderly person is demonstrably broken.


    Hang on Kashnov’s profile picture, this more closely matches your comments for the last month. :)

    As I understand it, you are the classic daughter of an officer whose everything is ambiguous ....
  28. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 11 June 2016 20: 24
    0
    Quote: Vasiliy16
    Go to any Sevastopol forum and read. In the city there is a mess and lawlessness, which was not even under the Ukrainians. And on TV in the evening only about the problems of Ukrainians.

    eg? and you probably don’t know, but go to any site of the city of the Russian Federation or other countries so there are problems too.
    1. Vasiliy16
      Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 20: 39
      -2
      Quote: Kostya Andrei
      Quote: Vasiliy16
      Go to any Sevastopol forum and read. In the city there is a mess and lawlessness, which was not even under the Ukrainians. And on TV in the evening only about the problems of Ukrainians.

      eg? and you probably don’t know, but go to any site of the city of the Russian Federation or other countries so there are problems too.

      http://sevastopol.su/
      look for at least one positive review about the appointed governor of Putin.
      1. Kostya Andreev
        Kostya Andreev 11 June 2016 21: 36
        +2
        I read thanks, so what, the same comments on other sites of the country, everywhere the problems are the same, in my city, too, many are dissatisfied with the authorities, and many are satisfied. Judging by the forums ordinary Russian chatter. I recommend that you read the Baltic forums and compare the opinions of local residents about the authorities. For example, delphi
        1. Vasiliy16
          Vasiliy16 11 June 2016 22: 06
          -1
          Quote: Kostya Andreev
          I read thanks, so what, the same comments on other sites of the country, everywhere the problems are the same, in my city, too, many are dissatisfied with the authorities, and many are satisfied.

          read how people remember the last Ukrainian governor. and like the present.
          1. Kostya Andreev
            Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 09: 05
            +1
            and you know that, and you know this and people always think people are waiting (funny when the individual speaks on behalf of the people), and why not listen to those whom the current governor suits (after listening to one, listen to the other). you want to say that they are not?
            nothing to talk about
      2. DV69
        DV69 12 June 2016 01: 52
        +3
        Quote: Vasiliy16
        look for at least one positive review about the appointed governor of Putin.

        Yes, my friend - a provocateur. Also illiterate. Proper names are capitalized.
  29. dima36
    dima36 25 March 2017 09: 08
    0
    there would be war, and rightly so what happened. I won’t say that he wasn’t Ukrainian but people are better off with Russia. Well, if you want to go to the Crimea, go to Ukraine and make Ukraine an Jewish country like 2 Germany and not good and will come back
    but in general Khrushchev betrayed Crimeans.
    1. dima36
      dima36 25 March 2017 09: 53
      0
      with dibiloids in power in 300 years
      1. dima36
        dima36 25 March 2017 09: 54
        0
        Nua 100 or 200 years, Ukraine can poem about the Crimea :-)