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12 June - Day of Russia. And a holiday, and a reason to reflect

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Today our country celebrates one of the public holidays - Day of Russia. Previously, this holiday was called the Independence Day of Russia, having received its status due to the adoption of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the USSR. This document, which is still provoking heated debates, was adopted on 12 on June 1990 by the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR elected by the vote of 4 in March of the same year (a total of 1068 people).

On the subject of the declaration adopted at the Congress, and on the election of the people's deputies of the Congress itself, it is worth saying a few words separately. And these words are about the legitimacy of the Congress and the legal force of the decisions made in its course. The fact is that 12-15 in March 1990 was held by an extraordinary congress of people's deputies of the USSR, which not only managed to create the post of President of the Country of Soviets specifically for Mikhail Gorbachev, but also to abolish one of the fundamental constitutional articles of the Soviet Union. It's about the article, which assigned the CPSU a leading role in the public and state sectors.
Elected in March 1990, the composition of the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR for 86% consisted of members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (920 seats). And during the vote on the so-called Declaration of Independence of Russia 12 June 1990, 907 people's deputies said this declaration "yes." Only 13 people voted against the declaration. As you might guess, the absolute majority of those who voted at the time for the “independence of the RSFSR” were represented by the CPSU. However, the abolished article of the Constitution of the USSR, which existed at that time, the leading role of the Communist Party, as already noted, was abolished. In this regard, the question arises: did it mean that the decision of the majority of people's deputies to adopt the declaration, and all the other decisions of the RSFSR people's deputies congress, compiled on 86% of the members of the CPSU that had party membership, had at least some legal basis? The question about which spears break to this day ...

However, it is worth moving from legal subtleties to subtleties, so to speak, humanitarian. Until now, the overwhelming majority of the population of Russia cannot clearly answer the question of from whom, after all, did the RSFSR then become “independent”? And to answer this is really extremely difficult. If we approach the consideration of the situation from the everyday point of view, then the deputies in Moscow with authority would act like a collective careless mother who abandons her children. Like, everything ... - I will declare independence from all of you and I will live in clover. Perhaps the comparison of Russia with the mother, and of the Union republics with children, is somewhat incorrect and offends someone from the inhabitants of the Union republics, but if guided solely economically, the comparison still has the right to life.

If you get acquainted with the text of the Declaration of Sovereignty itself, the decision of the deputies looks altogether blasphemous. Judge for yourself - from the text of the document, which actually continued the beginning of the collapse of a huge state and led to dire consequences for tens of millions of people:

The First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR, Conscious historical responsibility (and where is this responsibility? - author's comment) for the fate of Russia, testifying to respect for the sovereign rights of all the nations that are members of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, expressing the will of the peoples of the RSFSR (was that the will of the peoples? Yes, well ... - author's comment ) solemnly proclaims the state sovereignty of the RSFSR throughout its territory and declares its determination to create a democratic rule of law within the renewed Union of the SSR.

12 June - Day of Russia. And a holiday, and a reason to reflect


And until this point, the RSFSR did not possess sovereignty on its territory?

In fact, this document with the dubious legitimacy of the de facto cut off the millions of Russians living in the Union republics from their historical homeland - from Russia. Although the text refers to "historical responsibility" ... And who answered?

But then there was also a referendum on preserving the USSR, despite the results of which the citizens of the country were simply “shod”, without even bothering to explain why the results of the plebiscite were sent to garbage cans.

It was against this background that the new Russian sovereignty was taking shape. They declared independence from members of their own families, drew the boundaries between the houses, and then they applauded violently to all this under the friendly approval of Western "friends". If we are talking about sovereignty, then, excuse me, to whom should Russia with an 1000-year history have to prove the fact of its independence? Who in the world so far has not been able to realize that the sovereignty of Russia is determined not by a piece of paper written under dictation from an overseas “partner”, but by the whole history, spirit and courage of the people?

By the way, about 1000-year history. The holiday itself (the Day of Russia), it is quite patriotic (if again not to delve into the intricacies of jurisprudence of the end of 80's - the beginning of 90's), it seems to be unifying in nature. However, the very fact that Russia’s Day is 12 June is, as it were, implicitly obliged to carry with it the following plan: before 12 June 1990, Russia had no history? In other words, it was vital for people who implemented the Declaration with the Declaration at the time to push through the idea of ​​“sordiness” of Russia, and that the story “is being written from a pure democratic list”. For a complete victory over historically common sense, then it remained quite a bit - to announce the beginning of the calendar with 12 on June 1990, in order to combine it with the New Year, and in order to fully take root in the minds of the Russians ...

Thank God, not rooted, and, frankly, it is quite possible to understand those people who see in 12 June is not the day of the celebration of Russian sovereignty, but a day of dependence on those ideas that fed us in 90. It is quite possible to understand those who offer to transfer the Day of Russia to 18 in March (reunion with the Crimea) or on the day of the Baptism of Russia, in order (in the latter case) to emphasize the historical foundations of Russia and Russian society.



On the other hand, the holidays carry something adolescent-maidan, and therefore leave 12 June on the calendar just as Russia Day is at least because this date will always remind you of the error in millions of mutilated destinies made in 1990, and that it’s impossible to repeat such a mistake by Russia under any circumstances.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 12 June 2016 05: 33
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    Congratulations to all on the Day of Russia, I wish you happiness, health and a summer mood !!!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 12 June 2016 05: 38
      +34
      If you get acquainted with the text of the Declaration of Sovereignty itself, the decision of the deputies looks altogether blasphemous. Judge for yourself - from the text of the document, which actually continued the beginning of the collapse of a huge state and led to dire consequences for tens of millions of people:


      I like the holiday of 4 of November more, - National Unity Day. Than the day of June 12, when Russia proclaimed sovereignty from 25% of its territories and 35 million Russian-speaking / Russian outside the internal administrative borders. In fact, if not sad, this is actually the day of supporters of Maidan Yeltsin. This is the day when Russian first-grader Sergei Ivanov in Dnepropetrovsk will be different from Russian first-grader Sergei Ivanov in Saratov. So far, they have the same school primer on the school desk in 1990 -1991. And in a year, each of them will have a school curriculum, someone more radical, someone just more liberal.

      P.S. By the way, the RSFSR proclaimed its sovereignty from the USSR earlier than the Ukrainian SSR

      1. techie
        techie 12 June 2016 05: 41
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        Be that as it may, you can’t rewrite history. So all with a holiday - Day of Russia! I hope that over time it will become closer to people than it is now.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 12 June 2016 05: 46
          +35
          Quote: techie
          Anyway, you can't rewrite history.


          Tell this to the employees of the Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg hi
          1. nils
            nils 12 June 2016 10: 37
            +13
            Their Independence Day, from Us - the Russian people.
            But this is temporary, there will be Our Holiday!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 12 June 2016 13: 05
              +5
              I agree with the author of the article! The US State Department, as well as British and American intelligence agencies, as well as the US Federal Reserve, as always, worked very professionally on the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia in 1917, and on the collapse of the USSR in 1991, etc. And then Yeltsin’s Russia was supposed to fall apart.
              But while the Russian Federation has not collapsed, but, on the contrary, Crimea has even returned to its composition. And that is a good sign!
              So let's hope for the best and defend our homeland!

              All Russians - and especially Crimeans - with a holiday! Happy Russia Day!
              All of us health, happiness, peace and all prosperity! Hooray!

              See “DISCOVERY OF THE MONUMENT TO POLITAL PEOPLE IN THE CRIMEA)”. Posted: Jun 11 2016 year


              And this video I give for historical information about the Russian Federation of the Yeltsin beginning.
              CM. "How Yeltsin gave the country to the USA, and how he nominated Putin." Published: 9 aug. 2013

              The "Moment of Truth" program tells about how resources were distributed to the territory of the country in exchange for loans. What was covered by the Chechen war. How Putin came to power. Yeltsin decided to clear his conscience and make a knight's move, in defiance of the White House, bringing Putin to power when Mary Christmas was celebrated in the USA? Or did he and Berezovsky simply bet on a retired, not very successful KGB officer, not very ambitious and executive, and ... were they wrong?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 12 June 2016 18: 24
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                Elizabeth
                .............

                Dear Elizabeth! As I understand you !!!
                While living in Russia, too, only the last 2 years began to more or less recognize Russia Day!
                Here, many forum users do not understand this. And what you polemicize is that you are doing the right thing. We need to understand that we - each of us - are celebrating this day. I want to support you in this debate.
                1. There is a concept of "country" as a historical homeland and there is a concept of "state". These are not the same thing, but different concepts.
                Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, we Russians lost not only advice. Socialist. the state, but also part of its historical territory. countries - Russia - as its historian. Homeland. The homeland of the Russians broke up into the titular national. apartments formed as a result of the February Revolution and the October Revolution in 1917. In relation to the Russian people in the former council. title national The republics immediately flashed up. chauvinism and apartheid against Russians. Those Russians who ended up in the Russian Federation were very lucky, and they cannot understand this, because they don’t know much about it.
                And these Russians do not understand the fact that these Russians look at the Russian Federation as their own country, Russia, with the hope of their release.
                But in history the world has never stood still - borders moved along countries, peoples reunited, etc. The main thing is that the peoples to this reunion on both sides have a desire and desire. And it is.
                And do not spit Crimeans into the soul! They have the day of Russia - it's a holiday.
                2. I have a question for those for whom Day of Russia is only a wake and mourning.
                Sorry, but if your mother was abused so that it is disgusting to approach her - she is covered in shame - will you refuse her? Say it's not your mother? Turn around and leave like a stranger ?!
                Then stop being proud of the RF Armed Forces! This is not your country sun. Stop being proud of the heroism of our military heroes who defended Russia's national interests in the distant SAR! For you have nothing to do with them! You do not distinguish a country from a state! The state can change, but the country remains! Here is what you do not understand!
                In France, after a football match with a score of 1: 1, fans fought - the British and Russians.
                The fight was provoked by the British. They caught a Russian with the flag of the Russian Federation. They pulled out a flag from him, bent it to the ground by force, took off their trousers, and at the level of the face of the Russians they tucked their naked ** s with the Russian flag. Because of this, a mass brawl began between fans of Russia and the UK. I believe that those who do not care about the Russian flag would turn indifferently and leave. It is so?
                Well, if so! Where were you yourself and what did you personally do when the enemies of Russia destroyed the USSR and shot the White House? that you are so outraged now.
                Russia, as a country, is still there and it must be properly defended, as its historical Motherland!
                Elizabeth! I personally congratulate you on Russia Day!
                1. 13 warrior
                  13 warrior 12 June 2016 19: 38
                  +5
                  I have a question for those for whom Russia Day is just a wake and mourning.
                  "Sorry, but if your mother was abused in such a way that it is disgusting to approach her - she is covered with shame, - why would you give her up? Will you say that this is not your mother?"
                  Want polemics? You are welcome:
                  1. No one refuses, but to celebrate the day of rape is also somehow strange.
                  2. You yourself separate the state from the country (homeland), and many others judge the same way. So - the day of Russia is a state holiday, and even with a light touch, that is not perceived by many. This is not Victory Day, when the country and people won. This is not Pancake Week - a national holiday bequeathed to the ancestors ... Well, etc.
                  3. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are flesh from the flesh of the people, therefore your offer to stop being proud of their successes or worry about failures is also strange to me.

                  And the day of Russia can and will ever become truly Day, but not with generations who lived in the USSR.
        2. Very old
          Very old 12 June 2016 07: 17
          +17
          Alexander Viktorovich, I have been living in the festival for 70 years
          I do not need another
          Russian in Russia - what else does a person need? fellow
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 07: 57
            +8

            Quote: Very old
            Russian in Russia - what else does a person need?
            hi
          2. Elizabeth
            Elizabeth 12 June 2016 12: 00
            +12
            Russian in Russia - what else does a person need?

            This is not enough for a Russian person. The Russian man cannot help but empathize with the millions of Russians who are not allowed to be Russians, who are trying to erase the Russian memory of at least Russian children and grandchildren to make Russophobes.
            Russian in Russia - what else does a person need?

            A Russian who, in December of the 1991 of the year by good fortune, was registered in the RSFSR, may say so.
            And millions of Russians, who once woke up as "occupiers", received a black stamp of new citizenship in the Soviet Passport and did not have the slightest opportunity to immediately move to "sovereign" Russia, they will not understand you.
            For me, a Russian "occupant", it took six years of going through the courts in the "dashing 90s" in order to obtain Russian citizenship in order to save children and grandchildren from Russophobia, from erasing the historical memory of the Russian family.
            The Russians who survived this nightmare not in a dream, but in reality, today will not be able to declare:
            Russian in Russia - what else does a person need?

            Today they will not be able to, as long as Russia is torn to pieces by "fraternal" republics. Russia is not only the RSFSR. This is the entire Russian World. First of all, it is the national security of Russians around the world.
            Today, this holiday is still far away. I ask you not to confuse our holiday with the holiday of the world proletarian revolution or the establishment of Russia's borders from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
            Our holiday will come when every Russian person, regardless of the place of registration and residence, regardless of nationality, whether he is even a "middle aged Negro", will be able to speak Russian, and not apologize for this, preserve and pass on his identity to descendants, namely : real, and not composed by politicians, historical memory,
            culture, faith.
            I have been living in the Festival for 70 years
            I do not need another

            Well, if 70 from 70! Congratulations, happy for you!
            And I have only 20 ...
            Of almost 70 tees.
            Sincerely,
            one of the 35-million, who had the good fortune to get on the holiday.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 18: 31
              +1
              Quote: Elizabeth
              not empathize with the millions of Russians who are not allowed to be Russians, who are trying to erase the Russian memory,

              sorry, BUT! -Live in Russia, why are we obliged to empathize with those who left our homeland? Are you people of the world? Flag in hand, and don’t roar later ...
              Quote: Elizabeth
              A Russian who, in December of the 1991 of the year by good fortune, was registered in the RSFSR, may say so.

              sorry ... This is not an "accident"! This is our Motherland! but where did fate take you? Did you or your parents not live at home? then there is no need to squeeze a tear out of us, the indigenous ones, we have nothing to do with it, it was not our choice.
              Quote: Elizabeth
              Our holiday will come when every Russian person, regardless of the place of registration and residence, regardless of nationality, whether he is even a "middle aged Negro", will be able to speak Russian, and not apologize for this, preserve and pass on his identity to descendants, namely : real, and not composed by politicians, historical memory,
              culture, faith.

              that is-never-need to take a sober look at things.
              Quote: Elizabeth
              Today they will not be able to, as long as Russia is torn to pieces by "fraternal" republics. Russia is not only the RSFSR. This is the entire Russian World. First of all, it is the national security of Russians around the world.
              oh well, stick on ... it became bad-yelled, it was good-fuck Russia is not needed!
              Quote: Elizabeth
              one of the 35-million, who had the good fortune to get on the holiday.

              live in your country, in your homeland, in the homeland of your ancestors, and do not wander around the world in search of "right now," and you will have this happiness all the time! (good to whine, I hope you were not kicked out of Russia-USSR?) hi
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 12 June 2016 22: 08
                +4
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Live in Russia, why are we obliged to empathize with those who left their homeland?

                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                This is not an "accident"! This is our Motherland! but where did fate take you? Did you or your parents not live at home? then there is no need to squeeze a tear out of us, the indigenous ones, we have nothing to do with it, it was not our choice.


                Grandfather, if you weren’t 20 years older than me, I would answer with a 3-story mat angry am ! What place do you think at all ?! fool
                And to be rude to a woman and mockingly put an icon hi - the limit of arrogance!
                Our homeland was the USSR, and if my grandfather moved to Kazakhstan, when he was just an autonomy, and I was born there and lived all my life - where did "fate take me"? What kind of world are we roaming around? What is it foreign land - to the outskirts our own countries that have been included in its structure for a century and a half and where we have brought culture and civilization !? It’s not we who left our homeland, but she betrayed us vilely - and the eternal curse of EBN am am am and his entire family - and let all who voted for him fail in hell! am
              2. sa-ag
                sa-ag 13 June 2016 07: 29
                +3
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                .This is not an "accident"! This is our Motherland! but where did fate take you? Did you or your parents not live at home?

                Sorry, do you know this term - "distribution"? Your thesis reminds me of the opinion of the bureaucrats in relation to the "Afghans" - we did not send you there "...
        3. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 12 June 2016 11: 10
          +26
          Independence Day from the USSR. You can’t say otherwise.
          And the will of the peoples of the RSFSR, to which this congress refers in its declaration, was clearly expressed in a referendum. Which proclaimed - USSR BE!
          So today is not a holiday, but a day of mourning.
          1. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 12 June 2016 12: 40
            +3
            Quote: Reserve officer
            Which proclaimed - USSR BE!

            The referendum was AFTER the Declaration
            1. iouris
              iouris 13 June 2016 00: 34
              0
              Power is not chosen.
        4. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 12 June 2016 18: 50
          +6
          Quote: techie
          Be that as it may, you can’t rewrite history. So all with a holiday - Day of Russia! I hope that over time it will become closer to people than it is now.

          I personally do not perceive this holiday. Anyway, I propose making Day of Russia the date of the annexation of Crimea.
          1. gabs
            gabs 12 June 2016 19: 15
            +2
            I fully support! Russia has begun to truly collect its land!
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 12 June 2016 20: 10
              +2
              Quote: gabs
              I fully support! Russia has begun to truly collect its land!

              Announce the entire list of your true lands? And if there is a sequence of their gathering?
          2. sherp2015
            sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 05
            +4
            Quote: ImperialKolorad
            and in general I propose making Day of Russia the date of the annexation of Crimea.


            Returns
        5. luxprofi
          luxprofi 12 June 2016 20: 19
          +3
          There is no such holiday!
        6. Nikita Gromov
          Nikita Gromov 13 June 2016 10: 03
          +5
          What kind of holiday is this, when more than half of the population of our country lives on the verge of poverty and living today, receiving an average of 10-12 thousand rubles. per month. But at the pompous events constantly held by the authorities - holidays, parades, olympiads, championships, congresses, forums, summits, etc. - billions and billions are buzzing. Isn't such an internal policy towards its citizens mockery, blasphemy and spit? What kind of people can have a festive mood with this approach and attitude.
      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander 12 June 2016 06: 32
        +31
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Russia has proclaimed sovereignty from 25% of its territories and 35 million Russian-speaking / Russians outside the internal administrative borders


        Given the history of this holiday - this is NOT a holiday. Of the 24 million Russians who overnight remained outside the borders of the Motherland, today 14 million remains: in just 25 years ....
        1. Elizabeth
          Elizabeth 12 June 2016 12: 17
          +5
          Given the history of this holiday - this is NOT a holiday. Of the 24 million Russians who overnight remained outside the borders of the Motherland, today 14 million remains: in just 25 years ....

          Agree! given history, this is NOT a holiday. Obviously, the account of Russians
          overnight remaining outside the homeland

          goes to tens of millions.
          It is very painful that the error in this account is tens of millions, which no one really considered.
          Different sources give figures with an error of tens of millions of people!
          This speaks of neglect not only for every human life, but to millions of lives and destinies.
          What holiday can we talk about today !?
          And yet, I really want the holiday of our country, our Russia, our people!
          I really hope that such a holiday is yet to come!
          And today, let there be a celebration of the recognition of our historical mistakes ...
        2. Semurg
          Semurg 12 June 2016 20: 19
          +2
          Quote: Aleksander
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Russia has proclaimed sovereignty from 25% of its territories and 35 million Russian-speaking / Russians outside the internal administrative borders


          Given the history of this holiday - this is NOT a holiday. Of the 24 million Russians who overnight remained outside the borders of the Motherland, today 14 million remains: in just 25 years ....

          As I understand it, most of this difference of 10 million people today became citizens of the Russian Federation. Considering demographics, this is still better than if 10 million Central Asians came to you not as guest workers but as full-fledged citizens and they would have equal rights with the Russians. So, probably, this declaration has pluses. Of course, they could be employed at home, but this is again from the budget of the Russian Federation.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 06: 08
      +31
      a holiday that can’t take root in any way ... for example, the people in our city do not celebrate, no one congratulates each other, for people it’s just a day off. and the former Soviet holiday was one of the main, walked ...!
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 12 June 2016 12: 21
        -2
        a holiday that can’t take root in any way

        Our holiday is yet to come! There will be glee, there will be festivities at six o'clock in the evening after the war!
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 18: 21
          +3
          Quote: Elizabeth
          Our holiday is yet to come! There will be glee, there will be festivities at six o'clock in the evening after the war!

          I don’t think ... the memory of the people is deep, and the new reality will not give people what was before, under the USSR.
          1. Kahlan amnell
            Kahlan amnell 12 June 2016 22: 48
            +1
            and the new reality will not give people what was before, under the USSR

            Why copy? Let's create a new one, and taking into account the old mistakes, the best.
    3. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 12 June 2016 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Congratulations to all on the Day of Russia, I wish you happiness, health and a summer mood !!!

      Day of Russia

      "How delightful evening in Russia!",
      Days, of course, are no worse
      And tomorrow will be, I know, better than yesterday,
      On time, "apple and pear blossom"!

      We all will spare no strength for the Motherland,
      But our people are not afraid of difficulties,
      He always endured all troubles
      And anyone can fight evil spirits!

      Our man is not used to fear enemies
      And he can stand up for his land,
      The rifle is greased and the bayonet does not rust,
      No one can resist him!

      But we do not seek to threaten anyone
      Today we have an All-Russian holiday,
      From the countries of other friends we will invite
      And I recall the triumph of our Olympic!

      Victories also remember labor,
      And the achievements of scientists around the country,
      And feats, of course, are fighting,
      And we get up and remember the fallen in silence ...

      Life goes on, the Fatherland lives,
      Her former power is reborn again
      She is proud, strong and not capricious,
      Friendly, open, but does not tolerate a lie.

      Does not tolerate hypocrisy and malice,
      She is always ready to protect the weak,
      And here I want to emphasize especially:
      Russia is the most beautiful country!

      Alexander Lashmanov
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 12 June 2016 07: 48
      -5
      It seems that every day should be Russia’s day, and not once a year, as a reminder.
      And, since there is a reason, then with the holiday, of course! drinks
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 12 June 2016 08: 26
        +13
        If the media had not reminded of this holiday, then this day would have passed unnoticed, for me it is, exactly.
        1. Bath
          Bath 12 June 2016 08: 40
          +22
          Is there no holiday that we have ever been a colony of? Hi Bene Elzindu
          1. CORNET
            CORNET 12 June 2016 09: 25
            +27
            Quote: Bath
            Is there no holiday that we have ever been a colony of? Hi Bene Elzindu

            I agree ... Always on this day I felt a sense of bitterness and the loss of something in my soul ... (I remember the 80-90s ...)
            1. Pinkie F.
              Pinkie F. 12 June 2016 10: 04
              +10
              Quote: CORNET
              I agree ... Always on this day I felt a sense of bitterness and the loss of something in my soul ... (I remember the 80-90s ...)

              I won't say about bitterness, but the artificiality of this holiday is felt. Especially heard on the radio from some bureaucratic DB - "On this day Russia finally found her statehood! ... ".
              And even all these festive parties with clearing the sky over Moscow, dancing and fanfare will not make June 12 a Holiday (with a capital letter).
              1. CORNET
                CORNET 12 June 2016 11: 42
                +1
                Quote: Pinky F.
                Quote: CORNET
                I agree ... Always on this day I felt a sense of bitterness and the loss of something in my soul ... (I remember the 80-90s ...)

                I won't say about bitterness, but the artificiality of this holiday is felt. Especially heard on the radio from some bureaucratic DB - "On this day Russia finally found her statehood! ... ".
                And even all these festive parties with clearing the sky over Moscow, dancing and fanfare will not make June 12 a Holiday (with a capital letter).

                Again, you kicks ... Well, at least on the day of mourning, can you leave me alone ..? hi Today, "I'm sharpening a checker", let's move everything to tomorrow ... Please! hi
              2. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 12 June 2016 16: 45
                -6
                Quote: Pinky F.
                Especially heard on the radio from some bureaucratic DB - "On this day Russia finally gained its statehood! ...".

                You're right. And ... wrong! And the official is partially right. Russia has not gained (of course) its statehood on this day. My country returned it. Because Russia did not have statehood in the USSR. Everyone had, but we didn’t!
                I will never forgive the USSR for the "Russian question". I will never forget posters with cheerful faces in folk costumes ... and a Russian in the top three. Everyone can be Uzbeks, Tajiks, Armenians, only a Russian could not be Russian. If he wanted something, they wrote about him that he was a Soviet man. Not Russian, God forbid.
                Through the word they remembered "the great Russian culture", but this culture, like, ended its course in the USSR. All. The Russians have finished their culture, but everything has come out. The Soviet one began. And this continuous nightmare, about which they talked to us day and night - in Russia there was bloody darkness, horror, with stench, stench and oppression! Everything was bad, everything, everything! And only when Russia finally stopped, and the great mighty Soviet Union became ... would you guys not go?
                Probably like the War knocked on the door, so the Russians remembered the moment? Immediately they stuck their Soviet fairy tales far and far and let Eternal Russia call. But as the war ended, so again began a bacchanalia about the horrors in Russia and the kissel shores of the USSR. They didn’t forbid you to be called Russian, but ... give way! There are national quotas, you have nothing to catch!
                So this is not a holiday, of course. It is foolish to celebrate your defeat, you know. But the official is right that our state is finally Russian. Without the vile Leninist trick with the "republics" that cost Eternal Russia so dearly. And when my name is Russian throughout the world, I don't have to pretend to be a "Soviet man". Let this cadaver be where it belongs. At the junkyard.
          2. Elizabeth
            Elizabeth 12 June 2016 12: 33
            +3
            Is there no holiday that we have ever been a colony of? Hi Bene Elzindu

            Of course, they were not a colony, but there are still a lot of heirs to the spiritual and monetary Beni Elzind and others like him, in power structures.
            When will we or our descendants celebrate Independence Day from all the traitors of the Fatherland?
          3. sherp2015
            sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 07
            +4
            Quote: Bath
            Hi Bene Elzindu



            Burn it with fire in hell
            1. luxprofi
              luxprofi 12 June 2016 20: 30
              +3
              We must not forget his spouse and daughter. Keeper of the image of EBN. Burn them all. And the granddaughter does not forget. Which in England trained. Damned seed.
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 12 June 2016 22: 15
              -1
              Quote: sherp2015
              Burn it with fire in hell


              Nefignefig! What is rotten humanism? For traitors intended ice circle of hell - and about the hellfire of EBN am can only dream now!
      2. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 12 June 2016 12: 25
        +1
        And, since there is a reason, then with the holiday, of course!

        Happy Holiday, which will still be!
    5. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 12 June 2016 11: 14
      .
      Honestly, I was taken aback and numb with horror after some time by going to the site seeing such a number of minuses to my comment on the Day of Russia involuntarily thinking about whether or not I am on a Ukrainian site. As I understand it, people with Russophobic inclinations who hate the national holiday prevail, I myself was born and raised in the USSR and honestly for me those times are much closer, however, time is running out and everything is changing no matter what it is but still it is our Motherland and we owe it Love the way it is, but treating this holiday with such hatred while living in this country is already too much in my opinion, at least you should be ashamed of this act. READ PLEASE. It’s a nightmare that all commentators who have congratulated in honor of the holiday are under attack. I do not need no pluses or minuses
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 12 June 2016 12: 21
        +8
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Honestly, I was taken aback and numb with horror after some time by going to the site seeing such a number of minuses to my comment on the Day of Russia involuntarily thinking about whether or not I am on a Ukrainian site. As I understand it, people with Russophobic inclinations who hate the national holiday prevail, I myself was born and raised in the USSR and honestly for me those times are much closer, however, time is running out and everything is changing no matter what it is but still it is our Motherland and we owe it Love the way it is, but treating this holiday with such hatred while living in this country is already too much in my opinion, at least you should be ashamed of this act. READ PLEASE. It’s a nightmare that all commentators who have congratulated in honor of the holiday are under attack. I do not need no pluses or minuses

        I have set my own for you ....! I’m not ashamed and this is not a holiday ... hi
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 12 June 2016 14: 19
          +14
          In 90-91, it was precisely Russia that collapsed, if we clearly understand that the USSR is the heir of the Republic of Ingushetia, bearing in mind the territory.
          Russia was dismembered, artificially dismembered, planting on the stubs of a single organism the local kings.
          I wonder what should be called the person who considers holiday the day of the dismemberment of his homeland?
          This is a day of mourning!
          But when we all together restore the single organism and the integrity of Russia, then there will be a HOLIDAY!
          And on this day of mourning, all those involved in the collapse of my homeland, who have not yet died, I wish to die as soon as possible, without waiting for the righteous trial of the People.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 12 June 2016 17: 19
            +3
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            In 90-91, it was precisely Russia that collapsed, if we clearly understand that the USSR is the heir of the Republic of Ingushetia, bearing in mind the territory.

            It should be clearly understood that the heir with a living testator is a thief, a bandit, a swindler. Russia did not die to "inherit" it.
          2. sherp2015
            sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 11
            +3
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            And on this day of mourning, everyone involved in the collapse of my homeland, who have not yet died, I wish to die as soon as possible,


            I will support
      2. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 25
        -4
        time is flowing and everything is changing no matter what it is but still it is our homeland and we must love it as it is

        Our experience is "the son of difficult mistakes." It is good that we are beginning to see real mistakes, and not those that Western "partners" made to our country with the help of the purchased "elite" over the past 60 years, from the Khrushchev "thaw" to the Gorbachev "perestroika" and the Yeltsin-Gaidar-swamp therapy ...
        Aware of real mistakes and problems, we have the right to a holiday of our Fatherland.
        Happy Russia Day!
        1. luxprofi
          luxprofi 12 June 2016 20: 34
          +8
          Well, there is no such holiday! They explained to you ten times. Go to the tomb of EBN, fall to the rotten relics of an old drunk, drink a glass of vodka, for the holiday that he himself invented.
          May grace descend on you.
          1. Kahlan amnell
            Kahlan amnell 12 June 2016 23: 04
            +2
            Well, there is no such holiday! They explained to you ten times. Go to the tomb of EBN, fall to the rotten relics of an old drunk, drink a glass of vodka, for the holiday that he himself invented.

            Strange logic.
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    7. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 12 June 2016 11: 37
      .
      Honestly, I was taken aback and numb with horror after some time by going to the site seeing such a number of minuses to my comment on the Day of Russia involuntarily thinking about whether or not I am on a Ukrainian site. As I understand it, people with Russophobic inclinations who hate the national holiday prevail, I myself was born and raised in the USSR and honestly for me those times are much closer, however, time is running out and everything is changing no matter what it is but still it is our Motherland and we owe it Love the way it is, but treating this holiday with such hatred while living in this country is already too much in my opinion, at least you should be ashamed of this act. READ PLEASE. It’s a nightmare that all commentators who have congratulated in honor of the holiday are under attack. I do not need no pluses or minuses
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 12 June 2016 21: 50
        +3
        You asked for it yourself! I didn’t give you a minus, although it should be - to congratulate you on the day the most treacherous in the history of the country - "Is this thoughtlessness or treason?" (from). I hope that the first thing is that it is unwise to congratulate with such (especially on a site like VO) smile
    8. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 09
      0
      Congratulations to all on the Day of Russia, I wish you happiness, health and a summer mood !!!

      I thank the author of the article Alexei Volodin for a specific explanation of the essence of this holiday, which is a "holiday"! In fact, many dedicated and enlightened people call this holiday a day of mourning. Are there many of those enlightened? Especially among those who in 1990 were far from the RSFSR and remember the availability of information about what is happening in the RSFSR?
      Thanks to Victor, the author of this congratulation with the nickname Spartanez300!
      I see, I know that people are celebrating Russia Day. Sevastopol is especially celebrated. Perhaps celebrates the Donbass.
      Those who celebrate celebrate the Day of New Russia, the day of the revival of Russia, the day of the cleansing of Russia from the Gorbachev-Yeltsin-swamp evil spirits.
      Few people know the history of this holiday from the 1990 year. Thanks to Alexei for clarifying the situation.
      Many, including myself, felt something unclean in this holiday, especially when it was called Independence Day of Russia. Personally, I perceived this as the beginning of independence from international corporations, all kinds of foundations and human rights organizations. First of all, I had a hope for independence from international organizations of our domestic education system and healthcare system, which I constantly have to face for various reasons, from personal to official. The issue of independence from the international population control system, which holds our medicine in the gauntlet, worries about it, especially in the field of reproductive health.
      We celebrate this day as the day of the future complete independence from the gentle wolf paws of the representatives of the "civilized world".
      Yes, we can proudly say that Russia has always been independent and we have nothing to celebrate today. Today is the day when Russia fell into dependence and remains in this dependence.
      Nevertheless, I, my family, my friends, including in the post-Soviet space, celebrate Russia Day. The soul asks for a holiday! And the holiday will come to our streets, to our cities and villages, to our compatriots who find themselves outside the territory of Russia!
      Happy holiday, friends!
      Happy holiday, which will definitely be!
      Happy holiday, which we all need so much!
    9. Alexy
      Alexy 12 June 2016 16: 48
      -5
      I do not understand. What are the cons ???
    10. Warrior of Russia
      Warrior of Russia 12 June 2016 17: 00
      +5
      Brother, thank you for your sincere desire to congratulate all citizens of Russia! But how much is this holiday? In fact, this was the beginning of the collapse of the Soviet Union and the beginning of the "parade of sovereign states" of the former fraternal republics. I am sure that time will pass and another day will be chosen as the Day of Russia - a truly significant one in our glorious history!
    11. sherp2015
      sherp2015 12 June 2016 19: 57
      +8
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Congratulations to all on the Day of Russia, I wish you happiness, health and a summer mood !!!

      Well! Destroyed such a country ...
      No words
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 12 June 2016 23: 10
        -1
        Quote: sherp2015
        Well! Destroyed such a country ... No words

        You can always mourn the past. And you can cry, start to create new, better.
        What do you choose?
    12. Petr petrov
      Petr petrov 13 June 2016 18: 30
      +1
      http://storm100.livejournal.com/1200082.html
  2. engineering
    engineering 12 June 2016 05: 38
    .
    I congratulate everyone on the day of our Motherland - on the Day of Russia! We wish all of us that our country grows stronger, flourishes, develops and is always powerful and great. Let every citizen from the Far East to Kaliningrad feel free, successful and happy!
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 38
      -7
      I congratulate everyone on the day of our Motherland - on the Day of Russia! We wish all of us that our country grows stronger, flourishes, develops and is always powerful and great. Let every citizen from the Far East to Kaliningrad feel free, successful and happy!

      Thanks for the congratulation!
      We celebrate Russia Day, and not the day of the adoption of the Declaration on the beginning of the collapse of the USSR.
      I learned about this Declaration only today.
      And many do not know today.
      There were and are many problems in Russia, but this is not a reason to cancel Russia Day. Perhaps we or our descendants will celebrate this day when we find out the date of complete and final victory over fascism, over all the forces of evil. In the meantime, we celebrate today, on the day of the recognition of one of the most serious defeats. It costs a lot.
      Happy holiday, Happy Russian Day!
      1. luxprofi
        luxprofi 12 June 2016 20: 38
        +4
        Well, how much do you need to drink, so that you tirelessly taldychit the same thing? Or didn’t I understand, are these all toasts? Type you can not catch up?
  3. parafoiler
    parafoiler 12 June 2016 05: 42
    .
    We have Russian grief from the mind, we delve too much into obvious things, thereby bringing them to absurdity. Maybe let everything be as it is ?! Evolution is better than revolution. Happy Russia Day !!!
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 40
      .
      Evolution is better than revolution. Happy Russia Day !!!

      Happy Russia Day!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 19 June 2016 17: 11
        0
        Quote: Elizabeth
        Elizabeth June 12, 2016 13:40 ↑
        Evolution is better than revolution. Happy Russia Day !!!
        Happy Russia Day!


        Exactly - she did!
  4. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 12 June 2016 05: 43
    .
    Happy holiday, Great Russia !!!
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 12 June 2016 12: 28
      +18
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Happy holiday, Great Russia !!!

      You lived at that time .. when this "great holiday" Ugh, damn it announced EBN? Let Chubais celebrate and his company ... angry
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 58
        -8
        You lived at that time .. when this "great holiday" Ugh, damn it announced EBN? Let Chubais celebrate and his company ...

        Not all Russians lived in Russia when they declared this holiday in the 1990 year. Not all Russians at that time, and today too, had access to information about the essence of the holiday. We celebrated and celebrate Russia Day. Perhaps Day of the Future of Russia.
        And to give our holiday to the enemies of Russia is not ours. Do not have their holidays! Do not celebrate them the Day of Russia! This is not their holiday or victory. Yes, there was a temporary retreat, very difficult, especially for the Russians who found themselves
        in the 1991 year outside the territory of the RSFSR, for the Russians who are now in the territories occupied by the junta.
        Yes, the retreat, precisely, is temporary on a historical scale. And it did not start in 1990, but at least in 1956.
        And now, when the awakening of Russian identity begins, cancel the celebration of Russia Day!
        Give a holiday to Chubais and company?
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 16
          +4
          Quote: Elizabeth
          And now, when the awakening of Russian identity begins, cancel the celebration of Russia Day!
          Give a holiday to Chubais and company?


          And do not tell me the date of the liberation of Russia by the militia of Minin and Pozharsky from the False Dmitriy, Mnishek and other Polish occupation?
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 12 June 2016 22: 12
            0
            Quote: sherp2015
            And do not tell me the date of the liberation of Russia by the militia of Minin and Pozharsky from the False Dmitriy, Mnishek and other Polish occupation?


            Hello ... November 4th is already a year of public holiday!
    2. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 13: 43
      -7
      Happy holiday, Great Russia !!!

      Thank! Happy holiday, Happy Russian Day!
  5. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 12 June 2016 05: 57
    .
    ... to leave June 12 on the calendar exactly as the Day of Russia stands, if only because this date will always remind you of the mistake made in 1990 at the cost of millions of mutilated fates, and that Russia should not be repeated such a mistake under any circumstances.
    Remember the past, dream about the future, but live in the present. For All Peace, Goodness, Health.
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 14: 01
      .
      Remember the past, dream about the future, but live in the present. For All Peace, Goodness, Health.

      Thanks for your kind words!
      Happy Russia Day!
    2. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 12 June 2016 23: 21
      +1
      Quote: s.melioxin
      Remember the past, dream about the future, but live in the present.

      Very reasonable words. No need to break copies and no need to swear among themselves.
      The controversy is becoming too sharp. Cool off, comrades hot heads and calm down.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 12 June 2016 06: 26
    +3
    Happy Holiday COUNTRY !!! love
  7. PKK
    PKK 12 June 2016 06: 38
    +48
    Happy Mourning Day on the incompetently about .. with .. the USSR, You Comrades!
    1. cap
      cap 12 June 2016 08: 22
      +23
      Quote: PKK
      Happy Mourning Day on the incompetently about .. with .. the USSR, You Comrades!


      I will probably join! drinks
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 12 June 2016 08: 31
        +26
        Quote: cap
        Quote: PKK
        Happy Mourning Day on the incompetently about .. with .. the USSR, You Comrades!


        I will probably join! drinks

        I join too ... This is a day of mourning and the beginning of global humiliation and robbery of the country! angry How many people died ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 June 2016 09: 32
      .
      Quote: PKK
      Happy Mourning Day on the incompetently about .. with .. the USSR, You Comrades!

      Put on a black ribbon.
    3. Very old
      Very old 12 June 2016 09: 38
      +14
      Hold the crab, PKK
      And a hundred to the rating soldier
    4. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 12 June 2016 14: 25
      +7
      Quote: PKK
      Happy Mourning Day on the incompetently about .. with .. the USSR, You Comrades!

      Support!
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 June 2016 06: 40
    +31
    I consider this day a day of mourning, the day of the destruction of the Great Country. What is this day known for? On this day, George W. Bush was born, Yeltsin was elected president, and on that day we suddenly became "independent."
    I think that this day is celebrated by those who do not care about the fate of their homeland. Just to drink a reason is not important!
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 12 June 2016 08: 10
      +24
      Russia in the 90s became more dependent than even during the time of the Russian Empire.
      "celebration".
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 12 June 2016 15: 58
        +12
        Strongly support. They do not celebrate the day of shame and dismemberment, but they remember it silently - without clinking glasses. soldier
        1. ruskih
          ruskih 12 June 2016 17: 08
          +9
          And I join you. There is no desire to congratulate. request
  9. andr327
    andr327 12 June 2016 06: 43
    +1
    Happy Holidays! sad
    but nevertheless, everything is not easy in Russia. This morning I turn on the TV on Russia-24. It’s a kind of half-shifted screen, but I recognize N. Mikhalkov from my voice (I really don’t like him), who speaks very seriously about the real independence of Russia in his Besogon. The shifted screen instantly disappears when broadcasting advertisements and again becomes so with the continuation. (Novosibirsk, local time 8.30-9.00)
  10. Scud
    Scud 12 June 2016 06: 47
    +1
    It is necessary to realize that RUSSIA and only RUSSIA is the only country in the world that is opposing the Western and American postulates to divide and conquer!
    The greatness, power and wealth of the whole state consists in the preservation and propagation of the Russian people.
    M.V. Lomonosov.
    The Russian Federation is a vivid example of how a country that is proud of its independence, its motives and its right to stand to its full height should behave!
    Silvio Berlusconi.
    RUSSIA IS FORCE!
    Happy holiday my dear!
  11. Lester7777
    Lester7777 12 June 2016 06: 47
    -7
    Happy Russia Day!

    Russia did not start with a sword,
    She began with a scythe and a plow.
    Not because the blood is not hot,
    But because the Russian shoulder
    Never in my life has anger touched ...
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 June 2016 07: 07
    +31
    Dinosaur festival from a joke that ate its parents and since then it has been proud of this event, a halfwit, celebrates it with increasing fanfare every year.
    But it’s excusable to a dinosaur, whose brain was the size of a walnut, but not excusable to the people of Russia, who were robbed and deprived of any predictable future since then.
  13. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 12 June 2016 07: 12
    +27
    For me personally, June 12 is equal to June 22. And I dare not congratulate anyone on this day. And even more so called a holiday. The holiday is May 9th .. New Year. November 4th. But not that. So June 12th is a memorable date .. a tragic day in the history of our country.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 12 June 2016 07: 59
      +20
      "For me personally, June 12 is equated to June 22. And I dare not congratulate anyone on this day. And even more so to call a holiday. The holiday is May 9 ... New Year ... November 4. But not this. So June 12 is memorable date .. a tragic day in the history of our country "

      And this is true. June 12, like December 8, 1991 is a tragedy of Russia.
    2. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 14: 33
      -2
      For me personally, 12 of June is equal to 22 of June.

      On 22 on June 1941, the country did not know that Victory would come on May 9 on 1945. But she knew that the enemy would be defeated and Victory would be ours.
      On June 22, 1941, the people heard: "Get up, a huge country, get up to fight to the death!"
      12 June 1990 is not the date of the beginning of the war against Russia, against the Russian world, and not even the date of the beginning of the war against the USSR. The war started earlier. Much earlier. For many centuries earlier. And this war is not over yet.
      12 June 1990 very few citizens of the USSR knew that the war was already underway. And now, few people are aware of this. Not everyone living today will see the final victory in this war. But the more people find out that the war is on, the sooner the victory will be.
      It was in 1941 "Kiev was bombed, they announced to us that the war had begun" ...
      And our generation was declared "Khrushchev's thaw," "Gorbachev's perestroika," "Gaidar's therapy."
      The bombs became different. and ceased to be perceived as bombs.
      Today, the publication of Aleksey Volodin has opened many eyes to a virtual bomb with explosive power exceeding sometimes nuclear, because there was a breakdown in the nearly hundreds of millions of people who remained in the destroyed post-Soviet territory.
      Russia was, is and will be a unifying and healing power of love.
      Therefore, it is perfectly permissible to celebrate the day of awareness of betrayal, as the Day of Russia. When the date of the Victory of Russia in this centuries-old war becomes known, our descendants will celebrate Russia Day perhaps on another day, and perhaps they will preserve the historical memory of the day 12 of June, as we remember today 22 of June.
      In the meantime, today is the Day of Russia!
      The enemy will be defeated, Victory will be ours!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 23
        +8
        Quote: Elizabeth
        Elizabeth Today, 14:33 ↑ New

        Quote: Elizabeth
        Publication today

        Quote: Elizabeth
        In the meantime, today is the Day of Russia!

        Liza, why are you pissed off? Can't stop sorry, please?
        Did they give money in the Kremlin for advertising or did Matvienko make us happy with her presence?
      2. luxprofi
        luxprofi 12 June 2016 20: 52
        +9
        Quack quack quack! Urya, urya, urya! While you are kneeling and enthusiastic with slobbery mouths celebrating the day of the election of EBN to the throne, that is, the presidency. There will be no victory for you. There is no victory for the dull-headed Buratin. Because the smug, cunning scum, personal triumph very subtly disguised itself as a nationwide masquerade action. Pinocchio are still dancing. They didn’t understand anything. Russia Day, this is the day of the demolition of the Yeltsin Center, the day of comparing the graves of the ghoul, Starovoytiha, gaydarenysha, dying out of the books of false Nitsyn from the ground. It will be our victory. The victory of truth and justice. Hooray comrades!
  14. Free wind
    Free wind 12 June 2016 07: 29
    +25
    This is not a holiday for me, not a holiday. The day of the destruction of the USSR cannot be a holiday for normal people
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 June 2016 07: 55
      +9
      Well, why? There is also a day for a tankman, a signalman, trade workers, finally. And this is a holiday for workers of the Russian Government. They also need some kind of public holiday.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 12 June 2016 12: 22
        +9
        Quote: siberalt
        And this is a holiday for workers of the Russian Government. They also need some kind of public holiday.



        Nuuuu, then ... call this day "Day of Betrayal" ... "Judah's Day" ... So it will be more accurate ...

        PS In general, today our boyars and officials celebrate their independence ...
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 24
          +5
          Quote: weksha50
          Nuuuu, then ... call this day "Day of Betrayal" ... "Judah's Day" ... So it will be more accurate ...

          PS In general, today our boyars and officials celebrate their independence ...


          I have no words. This is their EVERYTHING!
    3. Pitot
      Pitot 12 June 2016 08: 03
      +15
      I fully support your opinion. This "holiday" is one of the dark days of Russians and Russians who sincerely support their Country - the USSR.
      1. Very old
        Very old 12 June 2016 18: 42
        +1
        Here is the correct congratulation (clickable)
    4. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 14: 50
      -5
      This is not a holiday for me, not a holiday. The day of the destruction of the USSR cannot be a holiday for normal people

      The day of the destruction of the SSNR 8 on December 1991, when an agreement was signed on the collapse of the USSR and the creation of the CIS
      Source: http://www.calend.ru/event/4462/
      © Calend.ru
      There were many harbingers of the collapse of the USSR at different dates.
      These dates include the NS Report. Khrushchev in closed session
      XX Congress of the CPSU, 24-25 February 1956
      So there are enough mourning dates in our history.
      Fans of black mourning ribbons have a wide selection of dates for their rituals.
      And we have not so many holidays.
      For example, on 8 of March everyone congratulates women on the holiday, not remembering that this is the day when the independence of women from femininity, matrimony, and motherhood was proclaimed.
      Other dates for the holidays of the family, motherhood are proposed and officially established. Few people remember and celebrate them. But on 8 of March, most men go with bouquets of flowers to their beloved women.
      And June 12 remains the Day of Russia, leaving the historical memory of the former name: "The Day of Independence of Russia!
      Happy Russia Day, country!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 26
        +3
        Quote: Elizabeth
        And June 12 remains the Day of Russia, leaving the historical memory of the former name: "The Day of Independence of Russia!
        Happy Russia Day, country!


        The record is stuck in your gramophone Lisa!
  15. sa-ag
    sa-ag 12 June 2016 07: 47
    +14
    the author, but what are you pulling so half the truth, i.e. bring on the page not the entire text of the declaration, bashfully cutting off the signature? But the signatory to the CPSU had nothing to do with it, because he put the party card on the table at the XiX party conference on the table and his name was B.N. Yeltsin, here is the full text of the document http://constitution.garant.ru/act/base/10200087/
    1. Very old
      Very old 12 June 2016 09: 44
      +6
      Benny was his name, b

      BE N I! Pahan, or whatever they have
  16. 31rus2
    31rus2 12 June 2016 07: 49
    +4
    Dear, what to add to the above, but nothing, everything is true
  17. Tusv
    Tusv 12 June 2016 07: 51
    -9
    And if without a politesis? The country must have a birthday. Appointed for today. Happy Birthday Russia Mother. Residents of Volgograd, shower with flowers our sacred symbol
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 June 2016 07: 58
      +13
      And what, Russia was born on June 12, and mother - the RSFSR? Enchanting !!!
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 08: 01
      +12
      Quote: Tusv
      And if without a politesis? The country must have a birthday. Appointed for today. Happy Birthday Russia Mother. Residents of Volgograd, shower with flowers our sacred symbol

      and not on THIS day, Russia appeared ... and it was so long ago that it has been hidden for centuries ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 12 June 2016 08: 15
        .
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        not on THIS day, Russia appeared ...

        And when? Maybe when the mythical Hyperborea died?
        The birth dates of the Phoenix bird are many. Stopped for today. So we celebrate the official birthday of our Great Motherland Matushuke drinks
        1. Darkness
          Darkness 12 June 2016 09: 31
          +6
          I suggest the date of July 3.
          When Svyatoslav was defeated Kaganate.)))
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 12 June 2016 10: 20
            0
            Quote: Darkness
            I suggest the date of July 3.
            When Svyatoslav was defeated Kaganate.)))

            Have you ever traveled on Moscow trains? You go to work and every single day the clergyman broadcasts: "Today is our holiday." All dates are busy and you can't move them anyway
            1. Darkness
              Darkness 12 June 2016 10: 41
              0
              A nightmare, some ....
            2. lelikas
              lelikas 12 June 2016 11: 32
              +2
              Quote: Tusv
              You go to work and every single day a priest broadcasts: "Today is our holiday

              What a horror, then what is going on in your buses? ;)
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 12 June 2016 11: 40
                0
                Quote: lelikas
                What a horror, then what is going on in your buses? ;)

                It happens, especially on Tuesdays and Thursdays. owners of cool cars at the bus stop for half an hour.
                What are we used to people laughing
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 18: 01
          +5
          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          not on THIS day, Russia appeared ...

          And when? Maybe when the mythical Hyperborea died?
          The birth dates of the Phoenix bird are many. Stopped for today. So we celebrate the official birthday of our Great Motherland Matushuke drinks
          I had just returned from my "6 acres", and by chance I had to drive through the city center, my wife and I were amazed ... on the steps of the "Palace of Culture and Arts", selflessly, some "collectives" were performing under flags, with transporters, you know how many people, no one ... no one at all! here is my answer to "holiday".
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 12 June 2016 07: 59
    .
    You can treat this day differently. The country, huge at that time, resembling rather a pioneer camp infected with perestroika with overgrown children and a pioneering boob, suddenly fled to their homes overnight, taking with them the property of that same common space "as much as you want" ... And so New Russia remained, without brothers, sisters and comrades hiding behind the "Declaration" for the joy of "friends". Well, okay, survived, did not forget (though not all, the jerks of the liberals have grown up), matured and got on his feet with what and I want to congratulate you, break through!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 June 2016 08: 22
      +7
      Yeah! But didn’t they fall to their knees to stand on their feet? And they did the same ones that instituted the holidayam
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 12 June 2016 08: 35
        +6
        to get up
        did you get up? How many I ask the word VOLUNTEER (it is forbidden in Russia), why neley, pastors are silent. But everything is transparent and complementary.
        Well, well, if everyone celebrates, then glory to Yeltsin who presented this holiday!
  19. Korsar4
    Korsar4 12 June 2016 08: 00
    +18
    I worked, I work, and I will work that day. What holiday? Moscow's independence from Kiev and Minsk? The day Kerry congratulates? "They do not know what they are doing" (c)
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 June 2016 08: 20
      +14
      The independence of Moscow from Kiev and Minsk? Day
      But, true, Russia is more than the former RSFSR. Russia is also the city of Revel, Verny, Tiflis.
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    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 30
      +4
      Quote: Korsar4
      I worked, I work, and I will work that day. What holiday? Moscow's independence from Kiev and Minsk? The day Kerry congratulates? "They do not know what they are doing" (c)


      All of them know the creatures.
      And they do
  20. Darkness
    Darkness 12 June 2016 08: 08
    +22
    Russia was born long before baptism, much less in 1990.
    I do not celebrate this "holiday". Never.
  21. Tusv
    Tusv 12 June 2016 08: 28
    0
    Not well, if you know the exact date of the birthday of Russia. Put a minus here too, and you will be given awesome awards, written down by honorary members of all universities
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 12 June 2016 09: 28
      +5
      The birthday of Russia-Russia is lost in the mists of time. But!!! We have a rich and heroic history, was it really impossible to pick up a more heroic date?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 12 June 2016 10: 12
        -2
        Quote: Darkness
        was it really impossible to pick up a more heroic date?

        It’s impossible to move the heroic date, for that it is already significant.
  22. Yak28
    Yak28 12 June 2016 08: 31
    +11
    In my work, I have to work for all the holidays (therefore, I don’t like them very much), but on June 12 I never considered it a holiday or any significant day for myself, I generally don’t take any holidays introduced after the collapse of the USSR, they are all with a sweet heart and negative by associations. wink
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 12 June 2016 11: 37
      +5
      Quote: Yak28
      In my work, I have to work for all the holidays (therefore, I don’t like them very much), but on June 12 I never considered it a holiday or any significant day for myself, I generally don’t take any holidays introduced after the collapse of the USSR, they are all with a sweet heart and negative by associations.

      I join every word! And I myself do not notice at work or holidays. In principle, I have two of them left -New Year and Navy Day. ;)
  23. Million
    Million 12 June 2016 08: 53
    +12
    Additional day off and only. Yeltsin "holidays" generally ignore.
  24. user3970
    user3970 12 June 2016 09: 29
    +15
    Maybe I'm digging deeply, but holidays, and even more so those appointed by the leaders of the country, must be treated with great caution. Here is the New Year. It was appointed to be a holiday in 1700 by Peter 1. And the tsar like Yeltsin was, the same drunk and inadequate, and the date was somehow incomprehensible from the Nativity of Christ (although 1700 years ago the Virgin Mary brought the infant Christ 8 days old to the Church of Bethlehem, where he was circumcised according to the Jewish tradition). And before Peter, the New Year in Russia was celebrated either in March or in September FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. 7 525 today. May 9 . Victory Day . I respect J.V. Stalin. But May 9 was considered a working day. THANKS to Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev for the holiday presented. November 7. Not a fig not a communist. But, damn it, why is the Bastille Day or the Day of the Paris Commune celebrated even in Russia, and the day of the October Revolution, disrespected by me tandem quietly banned? Blood was shed in Paris after the revolution no less than in Russia, and in terms of the significance of further historical events, October is orders of magnitude ahead of Paris. My conviction: now there is a REFORMATING AND ZOMBING OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE with the help of the mass media. Forget the history of the country in which we live. Hence the Yeltsin centers, Kadyrov's bridges, the days of Russia's independence (from what, from whom?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 12 June 2016 10: 25
      +3
      Quote: user3970
      or Paris Commune Day is celebrated even in Russia

      On the day of the Paris Commune from the bell tower of Ivan the Great. This is my sister’s birthday and the return of Crimea to their homeland
  25. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 12 June 2016 09: 52
    .
    You can treat the document called "Declaration of Independence" in different ways, but without it or the like, no country in the world will be a State. Today, there are very few of these left on the map of the World, and in 50-60 where you can't point your finger, in italics in parentheses - canton, colony. They would call the document "Declaration of Sovereignty", and there would be no disputes, although the essence of this does not change, since it determines the status of the territory.
    1. Bath
      Bath 12 June 2016 11: 07
      +8
      old man you overestimated mamalygi? Russia Russia had no one to depend on; it itself dictated halfway around the world to roll up the sovereignty declaration into a pipe and put it into its status
  26. CORNET
    CORNET 12 June 2016 09: 57
    +7
    I think the Day of Russia should be celebrated when "Crimea is OUR!" became ... This is a holiday just like in the song "With tears in my eyes .." The beginning of the revival of Russia! hi
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 12 June 2016 10: 49
      +1
      Quote: CORNET
      I think the Day of Russia should be celebrated when "Crimea is OUR!" became ... This is a holiday just like in the song "With tears in my eyes .." The beginning of the revival of Russia

      With tears in his eyes, it is occupied by reinforced concrete and fortified with diamonds by 27 million of our lives. The day of the return of Crimea to their homeland is not to occupy. When does Russia celebrate its birthday, when is everything busy? A great country should have a birthday and do not have to coincide with other memorable dates
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 12 June 2016 11: 52
        +3
        Quote: Tusv
        Quote: CORNET
        I think the Day of Russia should be celebrated when "Crimea is OUR!" became ... This is a holiday just like in the song "With tears in my eyes .." The beginning of the revival of Russia

        With tears in his eyes, it is occupied by reinforced concrete and fortified with diamonds by 27 million of our lives. The day of the return of Crimea to their homeland is not to occupy. When does Russia celebrate its birthday, when is everything busy? A great country should have a birthday and do not have to coincide with other memorable dates

        That's right .. hi Russia has a thousand-year history.! These days of Russia and constitutions bother me ... angry Maybe our holiday is yet to come, I hope so! hi
    2. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 15: 09
      -4
      I think the Day of Russia should be celebrated when "Crimea is OUR!" became ...

      Our Crimea is a Holiday, it is a Victory, but not final. Donbass is still on fire. New Russia is still rising. Little Russia is still in ukugar. Belarus still vacillates between two chairs.
      But Russia was, is and will be, despite the Declaration of traitors.
      Therefore, I consider it appropriate to celebrate Russia Day on the day when the traitors were preparing her death.
      Happy Russia Day!
    3. user3970
      user3970 12 June 2016 18: 30
      +2
      When the Russian part of Ukraine will be returned, and not a stub in the form of the Crimea.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 June 2016 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: user3970
        When the Russian part of Ukraine will be returned, and not a stub in the form of the Crimea.

        And what part do you think is Russian? For me, Ukraine is all Russian except Lviv.
        1. user3970
          user3970 12 June 2016 21: 07
          0
          Here, Alexander, contrary to your subjectivity towards me, I agree with you. But we must take into account the opinion of Rusyns living there. hi
  27. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 09: 57
    +5
    talked to my grandfather yesterday. grandfather of Georgians. and so he began to say how bad the country had collapsed and how well they lived then, everything was, I replied - "yes, you lived well in Georgia, and we are in Estonia too, and there was a life in Russia." after a pause, he agreed.
    who like minus, you really like living in the same house with those people who consider us occupiers, hate you, despise, say that Russians only drink and don’t know what to do, loafers. and if not for the Russians, then the Onybes lived in Finland, or in the USA.
    funny when the metropolis lives worse than the "occupied" countries. and they are pumping money out of it. resources.
    We got rid of this ballast and good. Now let Georgia live without Russian sales markets (or in the USSR, which is not Georgians, then with a machine, Ukraine has ceased to feed Russia, beauty).
    The collapse of the USSR is bad, very bad, the Russian people suffered (by the way, here we saw the attitude towards Russians on the part of national countries, "Suitcase, station Russia", those who regret the USSR forgot about it?
    By the way, if it weren’t for the collapse of the USSR, then my life in the ESSR would be drop dead, so I need to regret it about disintegration as an action that significantly changed my life. And I do not regret it.

    you can set cons, but comparing the same Georgia with the Russian Federation, you see that they can sakartvelo without Russia (and other countries of the former USSR. you can consider me a Great Russian chauvinist). I just compare that Russia to which I came during the USSR, and I can tell the present. There are flaws, flaws, but the country is developing!
    HAPPY !!!
    1. Severok
      Severok 12 June 2016 12: 08
      +5
      He said everything correctly, but congratulating on this day is at least unreasonable. It is not worth celebrating what is imposed by thieves and grabbers with traitors to the peoples living within the borders of modern Russia.
    2. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 15: 50
      -6
      I just compare that Russia to which I came during the USSR, and I can tell the present. There are flaws, flaws, but the country is developing!
      HAPPY !!!

      Those who lived in the RSFSR and now live in Russia, at times, cannot understand those who lived in the Union republics, especially the Western ones, and met the collapse of the USSR there, being Russian and wanting to remain Russian.
      Those who in the happy times of the USSR did not go to fraternal republics from the RSFSR could not see a sharp difference in the standard of living in the RSFSR and any other republic of the Union.
      Coming to the Western republics from the RSFSR, our citizens sometimes came to a shock when they saw the difference and, unfortunately, often began to admire the Western "civilization".
      So the centrifugal policy of the USSR formed the ideology of the "fifth column", the Westernophiles.
      Everything is very complicated and ambiguous.
      USSR - it was a beautiful country. She died of betrayal, indifference and false information.
      Remained its foundation Russia.
      Russia often forgets its heroes, but remembers traitors.
      Russia Day is not a day for the memory of traitors.
      Put them into oblivion.
      On Russia Day, remember its heroes and salute them.
      Happy Russia Day!
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 12 June 2016 22: 30
      -1
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      who like to minus - you, that you really like to live in the same house with those people who consider us occupiers, hate you, despise you, say that Russians only drink and do not know how to do anything, quitters. and if it were not for the Russians, they lived like in Finland or in the USA. funny when the metropolis lives worse than the "occupied" countries. and they are pumping money out of it. resources. Got rid of this ballast and good.


      I do not put a minus, because you are delusional in good faith - but you are talking nonsense, dear! It was necessary not to get rid of the "colonies", not to "dump the ballast" - but to exterminate the Bandera, Aizsargs, Kaycelites, and naipache - that scum, which they allocated subsidies to them at the expense of Russia! am We had to live like all the great countries — not to subsidize, but to extrude colonies and pump out loot from them, then they would be afraid and respect us!
      1. Kostya Andreev
        Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 23: 38
        +1
        Then it would not be the Soviet Union.
        And if so, if now, as I think, Russia is starting to do it. therefore, this howl is worth it.
        Unfortunately, I’m not mistaken, but tell you something. what I saw with my own eyes and what I see now.
        Respectfully!!!
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 13 June 2016 00: 24
          0
          Quote: Kostya Andreev
          Then it would not be the Soviet Union.


          Yes, then it would be a normal Russian Empire!

          And I consider not your mistake completely fair observations about the standard of living in the "metropolis" and "colonies" (I myself am from Kazakhstan and could compare), and the opinion that "it was necessary to dump the ballast" - in my opinion, they just had to cancel subsidies for nothing! hi
  28. vanavatny
    vanavatny 12 June 2016 10: 11
    +10
    On June 12, 1943, on the eve of the Battle of Kursk, the Sumy formation of Sidor Kovpak, on the orders of the Central Headquarters of the partisan movement, began its famous Carpathian raid on the deepest enemy rear. During the raid, the Kovpakovites defeated the German garrisons and Bender detachments in forty settlements of Western Ukraine. Destroying transport communications, the partisans managed for a long time to block the important directions of the delivery of Nazi troops and military equipment to the fronts of the Kursk Bulge.
    and even today every decent person can urinate on the grave of Yeltsin, Gaidar, etc. I don’t know anyone who would arrange a feast today or somehow pay tribute to the holiday sucked from something, this is not a holiday, not a solemn date, it is stillborn miscarriage of the era of betrayal, it’s just a date and no matter how many state employees get kicked out hi
    1. luxprofi
      luxprofi 12 June 2016 21: 00
      +4
      It would be nice to urinate, of course. To filthy graves. But I'm afraid the round-the-clock protection will not allow me to be relieved. Otherwise, the Russians would stand in line.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 12 June 2016 22: 35
        +3
        Quote: luxprofi
        Otherwise, the Russians would stand in line.


        We must not prohibit, but just introduce a fine of 500 rubles for defiling their graves with urine - this is billions in the budget! laughing I would not regret a thousand!
  29. robbihood
    robbihood 12 June 2016 10: 13
    .
    Well, got it.
    Protested, protested ...
    Achieved. It got worse.
    They tried to make the past come faster, it was better there.
    Have achieved.
    Yes! It was worse.
    It got worse rich and poor.
    But the distance between them was reduced.
    At the expense of both.
    They sought to switch to their products.
    They achieved it, but there were either no products or they went up.
    So left between products.

    Then they began to seek to switch to their medicines.
    There were fears that new diseases would appear already from their medicines.
    They began to seek, not to be friends with America, but to be friends with Iran.
    Have achieved ...
    What would be worse, they knew when they sought.
    But so that the youth refused to sing Iranian songs and dance to Iranian music - they did not suspect.
    And Iranian horror films were documentary.
    But, in general, they achieved what they wanted, but not what they wanted.
    Now the most advanced are seeking the abolition of some freedom as the only thing left.
    And I think, but if you go on the other side and stop pushing, looking at the result.
    For the tops can no longer, and the lower classes all want and want.
    Namely - to hit at one point.
    To beat and beat ...
    To get out of the state of repair and go to the state of construction.
    And build what happens, but to the end.
    And gradually replace it with your own, not arranging a demonstrative hunger strike with rations for superiors.
    For there is no one to explain to the governor how the atomizer is arranged.
    And if my wife is Ukrainian, although Russian, I need to explain where she came from?
    From Odessa.
    Who do we catch among our own?
    Again, half sits, half guards, then changes.
    The search for peace between armed people ...
    We were afraid to give out weapons for self-defense, now it can be bought for a penny.
    Donbass vs Donbass.
    Who will contain the Donbass?
    And there is also Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Armenia ...
    Russia does not pull the second brotherhood of peoples.
    And you should not pull with food.
    Livestock is growing slowly. But, if he grows up and begins to put forward ideas, we will again disengage for 70 years.
    Again we will recall this time already.
    - Mum! Is it true that there were no queues?
    - It was not, son.
    “And the cars were beautiful?”
    - There were, son.
    - Where did they go? ..
    - And banned, son. We are waiting for our own ... They should appear.
    - And will appear?
    - Surely ...
    - And the food?
    - And the food!
    - Why are you crying?
    - From joy, son, from joy.
    - And I, mother, will not cry.
    “And you don’t have to.” You have not seen that life ...

    Mikhail Zhvanetsky
    1. luxprofi
      luxprofi 12 June 2016 21: 02
      0
      Zhvanetsky is still \ k \ ... decree
  30. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 12 June 2016 10: 57
    -1
    We note the event is very doubtful. In my opinion, it would be better to postpone the holiday to November 11 (liberation from the yoke), November 2 (declaration of the empire), March 3 (abolition of serfdom), or September 14 (declaration of the republic).
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 12 June 2016 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      We note the event is very doubtful. In my opinion, it would be better to postpone the holiday to November 11 (liberation from the yoke), November 2 (declaration of the empire), March 3 (abolition of serfdom), or September 14 (declaration of the republic).

      Ugh bllllya ..... Enough to impose "holidays" on us! We will figure it out ourselves ... angry
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 12 June 2016 14: 32
        +2
        I am not imposing, but simply saying that Russia Day should be celebrated on the occasion of success, not failure.
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 12 June 2016 16: 33
          0
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          I am not imposing, but simply saying that Russia Day should be celebrated on the occasion of success, not failure.

          Okay, I believe .... hi
  31. gendir.grifon
    gendir.grifon 12 June 2016 11: 06
    0
    Day of Russia is better to name the day of the formation of the USSR - December 30. This is the real day of Russia. And this bourgeois holiday (June 12) is better to quietly eliminate, so as not to embarrass people.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 June 2016 16: 31
      +1
      The current government is in every way rejecting the USSR, so this is impossible.
      Quote: gendir.grifon
      And this bourgeois holiday
      Right now, all of Russia has become bourgeois, so everything is logical.
  32. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 12 June 2016 11: 19
    -3
    Quote: gendir.grifon
    Day of Russia is better to name the day of the formation of the USSR - December 30. This is the real day of Russia. And this bourgeois holiday (June 12) is better to quietly eliminate, so as not to embarrass people.

    but the fact that this USSR first ruined the Russian Empire? why don’t you feel sorry for other people who the USSR considered a betrayal? a holiday is a holiday. and let's treat him with some respect. we have a rich history and there is enough in it, there are victories, there are defeats. you need to remember everything. Go Russia!!! and Happy Holidays !!!
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 12 June 2016 20: 40
      +2
      Quote: LEVIAFAN
      but the fact that this USSR first ruined the Russian Empire?


      R. And the merchant-usurers on the money of world Zionism have ruined
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  34. parusnik
    parusnik 12 June 2016 11: 22
    +7
    Only 13 people spoke out against the declaration.... So they were communists, and not those who voted for ... June 12, 1990 ... the day, not gaining independence, but the day of its loss ... That subsequent events confirmed ... Like Russia, they just did not kick ... And "independent" Russia could not blather ..
  35. Cat man null
    Cat man null 12 June 2016 11: 27
    +5
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Honestly, I was taken aback and numb with horror after some time by going to the site seeing such a number of minuses to my comment on the Day of Russia involuntarily thinking about whether or not I am on a Ukrainian site. As I understand it, people with Russophobic inclinations who hate the national holiday prevail here ...

    - well, yes ... the child came, noted, thought to collect the pluses, but here it is oblomingo request

    Quote: Spartanez300
    I myself was born and raised in the USSR ... but treating this holiday with such hatred while living in this country is already too much in my opinion

    - I wonder how else to relate to the "holiday of independence of the Russian Federation from itself"? belay

    Quote: Spartanez300
    at least you should be ashamed of this act

    - And the child is also stupid, a campaign .. negative

    That's how it should be laughing
  36. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 12 June 2016 11: 30
    -5
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Honestly, I was taken aback and numb with horror after some time by going to the site seeing such a number of minuses to my comment on the Day of Russia involuntarily thinking about whether or not I am on a Ukrainian site. As I understand it, people with Russophobic inclinations who hate the national holiday prevail here ...

    - well, yes ... the child came, noted, thought to collect the pluses, but here it is oblomingo request

    Quote: Spartanez300
    I myself was born and raised in the USSR ... but treating this holiday with such hatred while living in this country is already too much in my opinion

    - I wonder how else to relate to the "holiday of independence of the Russian Federation from itself"? belay

    Quote: Spartanez300
    at least you should be ashamed of this act

    - And the child is also stupid, a campaign .. negative

    That's how it should be laughing

    Cheka does not sleep hi
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 12 June 2016 14: 38
      0
      Quote: LEVIAFAN
      Cheka does not sleep

      - what, in a stump, a check. Simply awake annoying slightly ... metatarsus meaningless laughing

      PS: minus is not mine request
  37. akudr48
    akudr48 12 June 2016 11: 41
    +6
    Day of Russia was called the day when the second secretaries of the CPSU defeated the first secretaries of the same CPSU on June 12, 1990.

    This is what the Declaration on State Sovereignty of Russia says. The sovereignty of the ruling stratum of the rest of the country's population.

    Now these are the second secretaries in the past, together with the former. Komsomolats, and the criminals and intellectual servants who have joined them from the so-called. intelligentsia, seized not only power, but also property, forming, as they believe, an elite, outside of which the rest of the country's population is considered by them as dandruff that interferes with life. And with which you can talk in terms of "No money. But you stick here."

    Therefore, by origin, this day is actually a holiday, a triumph, a sign of victory for the upper elite, for a maximum of 5% of the country's population. They have something to celebrate.

    What makes the remaining 95% of the people happy is not clear, and they themselves are not aware of this, except for an extra day off.

    Russia’s day needs to be celebrated, the country should have its own birthday, but associating it with such an embarrassing event for the Russian people and other peoples as disconnecting from themselves, separation inside, is unacceptable.

    It’s not in vain said A house divided in itself cannot stand
  38. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 June 2016 12: 07
    +3
    An event, that is, only there is no holiday! The fact that in 91 each republic of the USSR built its fence is a disgrace of the era. It's like a funeral party, drinking without clinking glasses .. a strange holiday.
  39. weksha50
    weksha50 12 June 2016 12: 15
    +3
    "12 June - Day of Russia. And a holiday, and a reason to reflect"...

    I do not know how to say...

    For some reason, on this day I always ask myself the question: And from whom are we independent?

    And now for a quarter of a century I don't consider this day a holiday ... For me, at least turn on Mozart's "Requiem" and listen ...

    He’s made-up, this holiday ... And intensely imposed on people ... Which, in general, will succeed in a generation or two ...
  40. CORNET
    CORNET 12 June 2016 12: 35
    +6
    For the USSR and our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... Forgive us! We will all return ...
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 15: 20
      0
      For the USSR and our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... Forgive us! We will all return ...

      This is manly! Respect! I believe that you will return! Thank you!
  41. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 12 June 2016 12: 49
    -1
    I understand everything ... But at least you need to know your mistakes so as not to repeat them in the future
    Happy holiday
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 12 June 2016 13: 15
      +1
      [quote = Sukhoi_T-50] I understand everything ... But you need to at least know your mistakes so as not to repeat them in the future
      Happy holiday [/ quote
      Well, the majority does not have a holiday (even when the EBN announced it) Understand you all at last ..! hi
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 12 June 2016 15: 27
        -2
        Well, the majority does not have a holiday (even when the EBN announced it) Understand you all at last ..!

        Yes, we do not celebrate what the EBN and its ilk announced ...
        Most Russians do not know about this declaration. And you need to know!
        On this day, they were preparing the death of Russia, but it did not work out, and it won’t work out, no matter who tries and no matter what they invest in it.
        So we celebrate that the traitors did not succeed, and will not succeed!
        And the name of the holiday is not at all what the traitors came up with. Only one word is removed from the vile declaration, and how much is changing!
        Happy Russia Day!
        Victory will be ours!
  42. CORNET
    CORNET 12 June 2016 13: 17
    +5
    This is their holiday ....
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 12 June 2016 15: 30
      0
      This is their holiday ....

      There are no holidays at the traitors of the motherland. There are no such days on the calendar.
  43. user3970
    user3970 12 June 2016 13: 33
    +5
    I want to add for Cornet ...
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 12 June 2016 16: 01
      +3
      Red bastard .. like? ... Trotsky, where is .. Oh you red fox, well, I pee, pee ...
      There are enough ice axes for everyone! Well, this is more reliable ..... And hty b .....
  44. mihasik
    mihasik 12 June 2016 13: 44
    +5
    The Constitution, written with the help of US advisers, is unchanged, Yeltsin Center, Russia Day, Russia in the WTO on controversial terms, privatization of the remnants of state property, Chubais, a member of the Bilderberg Club (World Shadow Government), is still at large ... And you think that the country has changed political situation since the 90s?))). Are we continuing to plunder the remnants of the country, now under the slogans of "patriotism" and "love for the Fatherland"?
    Happy Holidays to you, participants in the coup of the 90s and sympathizing with you!
  45. epsilon571
    epsilon571 12 June 2016 15: 40
    0
    Here someone posted a record with Polina Churkina, the real, true Russian soul. When I first heard her voice on TV, I cried, her performance with Butusov on the day of the Keeper Andrew the First-Called was a revelation to me. The Russian soul cannot be killed, it cannot be diluted with Jewish or other blood. Damn you Yeltsin lackeys, there will be a holiday on our street!

    P / S I can’t upload the video now, but it can be found on the internet, look, feel the warmth of real Russian blood.
  46. KBR109
    KBR109 12 June 2016 16: 09
    +8
    Happy Memorial Day to you, dear fellow citizens. Bitter and angry. Without clinking glasses. Silently. This is the day of June 22, 1941. negative
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 12 June 2016 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: KBR109
      Happy Memorial Day to you, dear fellow citizens. Bitter and angry. Without clinking glasses. Silently. This is the day of June 22, 1941. negative

      Everything is true, not a few were killed and destroyed ... Without checking in! drinks
  47. Alexy
    Alexy 12 June 2016 16: 45
    +1
    I don’t understand something. We have a holiday, but the businessman and RBC did not even mention. Whose will they be ???
    They have the main news is the fight in Marseille and the murders in the American pederast club.
    It is strange that they do not write about Ukrainians. There is a rear-wheel drive day with a parade, as expected.
  48. Coffin Cross1
    Coffin Cross1 12 June 2016 17: 27
    +3
    I was born in the USSR. It was an empire with fraternal peoples. And the people spoke out in favor of preserving the USSR, but ...
    And now, the Slavs are destroying the Slavs, the oligarchs, as they call themselves, are robbing our homeland. Bottom line: we are the richest country with the poorest population. But we have the Serdyukovs, Roldugins, Grefs, Kudrins, Abramovichs and a whole battalion of "friends" of the guarantor, to whom the law does not apply by definition. They are "friends". And I will celebrate when the Slavs again become a united and invincible nation, when they will be the masters of their country.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 17: 32
      -1
      You specifically wrote this and cried, what would the pluses earn?
      Why didn’t you write that we have art. Lieutenant Prokhorenko, Minister Lavrov, children who win mathematical awards. why didn’t you write about the development of CP 10, about our farmers why didn’t you write that Russia has greatly reduced its dependence on oil and gas. WHY?
      And what have you done to ensure that the country has all the best in the world. invented new technology, created jobs, do charity work, develop production. pay taxes?
      Instead of a zhigan A.V. Suvorov, you need a portrait of A, A, Vlasov. He also denounced the thieves and bestial power of Stalin and he was all bad. and Suvorov served Russia, no matter what king was in power.
      I am pleased to put you a minus.
      1. Coffin Cross1
        Coffin Cross1 12 June 2016 18: 16
        +2
        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        Instead of a zhigan A.V. Suvorov

        Kostya, is everything all right with your head? Suvorov Alexander Vasilievich was a generalissimo. And only a sick person can call him a jigan.
        1. Kostya Andreev
          Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 20: 34
          0
          Unlike you with your head in order, it can be determined by name. if you didn’t know, then there is such a thing as strengthening the semantic load, but think about Vlasov. And I do not call you d.d.bil.om, when you can not provide facts, listing the names, except those that "everyone knows."
          And I note with you on you. I didn’t pass the geese.
          1. Coffin Cross1
            Coffin Cross1 12 June 2016 21: 12
            -2
            Quote: Kostya Andreev
            with your head in order, it can be determined by name

            Is the name the conclusion of the doctors?
            Quote: Kostya Andreev
            there is such a thing as increasing the semantic load

            Those. Generalissimo, after your gain, is it a zhigan?
            Quote: Kostya Andreev
            about Vlasov you think

            Are you like an expert on Vlasov?
            Quote: Kostya Andreev
            You listing the last names can not provide the facts

            God have mercy, my dear, it seems your consciousness exists in another world. Even on the Internet there are millions of these facts, and even the investigators ... Yes, hundreds, if not thousands, of volumes were written by Serdyukov and Vasilyeva. And nothing, enjoy freedom, money, positions. And all is well with them. The holiday is probably celebrated. smile
            1. Kostya Andreev
              Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 22: 08
              -1
              Well, if for you the Internet is a source you can trust. then no comment. regarding the investigators, I am very glad that a person has appeared on our site who has access to criminal cases of national importance! I would like you to post them. otherwise it’s not very good, you know the content of the cases and hide it. (when he studied at the club of young sailors, the instructor told us, in the logbook we write what we observe, what we do not observe, we do not write).
              I guess a lot of things, but if there is no confirmation, then I don’t blame anyone.

              We will not deal with Baltalogy, but simply answer why you did not write that we have Art. Lieutenant Prokhorenko, Minister Lavrov, children who win mathematical awards. why didn’t you write about the development of CP 10, about our farmers why didn’t you write that Russia has greatly reduced its dependence on oil and gas.
              WHY?
              And what have you done to ensure that the country has all the best in the world. invented a new technology, created jobs, do charity work, develop production. pay taxes?
              In order not to embarrass you, do not read the word zhigan, as I understand it, it has hurt you the most, and all your discontent comes from it.
              1. Coffin Cross1
                Coffin Cross1 12 June 2016 22: 48
                -1
                Quote: Kostya Andreev
                why didn’t you write that we have art. Lieutenant Prokhorenko, Minister Lavrov, children who win mathematical awards. why didn’t you write about the development of CP 10, about our farmers why didn’t you write that Russia has greatly reduced its dependence on oil and gas.
                WHY?

                And I haven’t written much yet: that our sky is blue, the grass is green, the girls are beautiful, the vodka is good, Kostya Andreyev is a young sailor, Roldugin is the golden bow of Russia, by the way, an honest man — he didn’t steal a ruble for his life, sick children, who cannot be operated on, and if they are picked up a thread from the world, they are doing operations for some reason in Germany ... So, Kostya, there’s a lot more to write.
                1. Kostya Andreev
                  Kostya Andreev 12 June 2016 23: 52
                  +1
                  I will answer to the message in which you evaded the answer: you are just a chatterbox, I asked you simple questions to which you began to bear the same nonsense that is carried on the correspondent, the censor. echo and other resources of haters and envious of Russia. What does a young sailor have to do with this, bow?
                  When Raldugin was stealing, were you standing nearby? or is it again from the internet. such as the echo of Moscow, or infa lehi bulk?
                  You called me sick, but your answer makes you doubt your health!
                  Especially for those like you who blame Russia for what they collect for operations, this practice is spread around the world when people rich or poor together help other people. For example, in the Soviet Union there was such a thing as a mutual assistance fund. By the way, what did you do so that our medicine would be at the level of the same Germany or the USA. And if you cite Germany as an example, then take the discipline of the Germans as an example as well. their savings, and everything else.
          2. sherp2015
            sherp2015 13 June 2016 11: 51
            -1
            Quote: Kostya Andreev
            And I note with you on you. I didn’t pass the geese.


            ))) But the geese very actively grazed around you
  49. cedar
    cedar 12 June 2016 18: 04
    +3
    This is another attempt to celebrate the day of the separation of the Russian Federation from the USSR, i.e. from big RUSSIA. For the freedom and inviolability of borders, with which our peoples laid 27 million lives in the Great Patriotic War! And now, what is not war?
    Yes, war, only without a declaration of war. We are now pushed together by our foreheads, so that we would put many times more than our people, but then so that there would be no trace left from the borders of Russia with you, dear ... "Bleed, divide and conquer" is the slogan of the British Empire. Dear, do not be fooled by the trap thrown by a trap. June 12, in fact, is the day we surrender Russia to the enemy, surrender the blood and life that deprives our lives of our compatriots for the Freedom and Independence of the USSR — the great Russia — the former Russian Empire. And the holiday of independence and freedom from the Anglo-American invaders will certainly be, but only at the end of the difficult military path, which has not yet been traveled far. Look at the root!
    1. 31rus2
      31rus2 12 June 2016 18: 58
      +3
      Dear, but here at this very point this holiday was invented, to separate people. Why, then, everything is simply not a single whole society, because then you don’t want to, but to it, you have to reckon with it (the society). And you, dear sports, prove who is right, if only they wouldn’t persecute the authorities. Such holidays are not appointed, such a holiday should unite people, unite, people should be proud and rejoice, and not write memorial articles
  50. user3970
    user3970 12 June 2016 18: 44
    0
    Personal ... Here, I gave it to the young people for a "holiday". Do you approve?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 June 2016 18: 48
      +2
      Quote: user3970
      Here, I gave it to the young for a "holiday". Do you approve?

      And what will they do on these sheets? In my opinion you have mental problems. And manufacturers also have problems.
      1. 31rus2
        31rus2 12 June 2016 19: 11
        +2
        Alexander, you yourself are for democracy, here is a manifestation of democracy in "bed tones", when words do not mean anything and there are no real deeds, when the leadership itself disowns its history, it turns out exactly what is above in the photo
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 June 2016 19: 48
          +1
          Quote: 31rus2
          Alexander, you yourself are for democracy,

          You still accuse me of love for the USA, what there lol
          Quote: 31rus2
          , it turns out exactly what is higher in the photo

          At the time when we returned the Crimea, one maidanuty wrote VKontakte-I bought a mask of Putin, put it on his wife and fucked her. This was written by a man who was sick to the head. Here is a topic with sheets from the same topic.
          1. 31rus2
            31rus2 12 June 2016 20: 13
            +1
            In no case, I don’t blame you, even if you love the United States, it’s understandable with a moral criterion, but it’s the lack of morality that will lead to such a thing, although America is an enemy and Ukrainians are strange, and who should be blamed
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