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New Russophobia (Aftonbladet, Sweden)

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New Russophobia (Aftonbladet, Sweden)



Four large grocery supermarket chains in Lithuania recently suffered a boycott that lasted several days. The cause of steel prices for cauliflower. An angry buyer wrote on Facebook that for a head of cauliflower 3,49 euros are shamefully demanded, and social networks are filled with outraged posts in which local prices are compared with prices in Poland and Britain. Lithuanians had to pay three times more.

One of the affected retailers, Maxima, panicked and said that Russia was behind the boycott. Of course, no one took this attack seriously, but it should be noted that shifting blame to the Kremlin in our region is a widespread phenomenon.

The same thing happened in Sweden a couple of weeks ago when the collapse of the internal infrastructure occurred. The so-called expert on terrorism from the National Defense Academy did not rule out that the problems arose due to the fault of some external force, "probably Russia".

“A security expert” said on the pages of Göteborgs-Posten that guns are needed on the island of Gotland, but they will not be enough to repel the threat from a hostile neighbor. Headlines on the front pages of some newspapers almost shouted about the war.

Now it became clear that the accidents had nothing to do with any interconnected sabotage. Even military activist Dagens Nyheter, Mikael Holmstrom, could not find contact with Russian aircraft or submarines.

Today Russophobia reminds the situation a hundred years ago. Then they also demanded to increase defense spending and strengthen ties with a strong power (then it was Germany). The country was seized with immense suspicion because of wandering Russian carpenters. The headman of a village told in 1913 year how he carefully inspected the grinding equipment of four joiners, expecting to see stigmas from the workshops of the Russian army, but he did not find anything. At the same time, the chief of the Stockholm police invited several joiners to a restaurant in the hope that they would give out disguised officers to their manners.

Now, in 100 years, we will not deny that some sprays of Russian propaganda are reaching us. However, it does not lead to serious consequences. The Kremlin’s information attack does not affect our major publications, and social networks are also hardly at risk. The sites of Swedish right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to the democratic social order.

As for the real manipulation of public opinion through the leading media, we go back a decade ago. Dagens Nyheter, whose editor-in-chief was then Hans Bergström (Hans Bergström), conducted the largest stories modern swedish press disinformation campaign commissioned by a foreign power. For several months, Per Almark (Per Ahlmark) tried to convince us that Iraq possesses nuclear weaponsand at the same time discredit UN inspectors led by Hans Blix (Hans Blix).

The Dagens Nyheter campaign in 2002-2003 by all criteria fits the definition of propaganda given in a special NATO magazine that publishes the actively discussed center of “strategic communications” in Riga - Stratcom.

The Russian propaganda war is described in the journal as follows: “it includes deception, irresponsibility, pure lies and the creation of an alternate reality”.

All this was present on the pages of Dagens Nyheter in 2002-2003, only the source was not Moscow, but Washington.

The transition of Russian propaganda to the offensive is often called the "hybrid war." By itself, this way of waging war is not news and not the invention of Russia. Including, therefore, the term raises many questions in international debates. Many Americans, including those in NATO publications, warn against the careless use of this expression, which has more emotions than meaning.

The most in-depth analytical study on the topic was recently conducted by the University of Helsinki with the participation of a number of invited experts. The conclusion reached after the completion of the first phase of the work is the following: “the concept of“ hybrid war ”is not applicable as an analytical tool for assessing the military potential or foreign targets of Russia. Consequently, this concept should not be used in the process of strategic decision making and defense planning. ”

It is indicated that the term confuses rather than explains, and therefore may lead to incorrect conclusions, including those that will play in favor of Russia.

So what is the Russian propaganda offensive, which even the Swedish government seems to fear? Many mention the channel RT, however, according to independent research, its role and scale are exaggerated. I myself regularly watch his programs (mainly on the Internet), as he often talks about what the BBC and CNN are silent about for various reasons. Of course, the information is often served with a noticeable bias in the Russian version of current political events. It is a bit like Fox News, albeit in a different key. If someone needs a balance, you can search for similar news on the counter propaganda website Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, which is funded by the United States.

If you need an alternative to the Russian version of the Ukrainian events, that is, the Kyiv Post with its nationalist interpretations. And the best way to read independent international blogs, such as Odessa talk or Ukraine update. There, voices are speculated about Russian manipulations and they openly talk about the dependence of the Ukrainian authorities on oligarchs and ultranationalists. Critical, but at the same time rich in shades, the discussion about modern Russia is conducted in the Sean's Russia blog. Baltic Times gives a fair, though hardly a completely objective picture of the situation in the Baltic. There you can also find the most revealing reports about the intellectual level of Stratcom activities in Riga.

By joining Stratcom, the Swedish government chose in many respects to assimilate the picture of the world, sometimes bearing the imprint of Baltic and Polish nationalism. The same applies to the Department of Civil Defense and Readiness, where posts in the "private" Twitter of one of the department heads happily show what is happening in the minds of the leadership.

It is still not entirely clear what exactly Sweden will do in Riga. In a slightly strangely worded “declaration of intent”, there was a “heartfelt wish” to find the head of the technical and scientific development department. But there is no such department in terms of organization on the Stratcom website. Of course, this can be attributed to the fact that the site is rarely updated. But, in my opinion, the case smells of electronic intelligence.

Now that the beautiful alliance of Social Democrats and Greens has involved Sweden in this NATO-related organization, it remains to be hoped that our representatives will keep what they call a hybrid war within reasonable limits. Perhaps the Swedish specialists will have the opportunity to assess the scientific level of the center’s activities and lower the propaganda tone of the publications. Otherwise, Sweden will have to shoulder the heavy burden of collective responsibility for the organization, which is almost entirely based on the old logic of the Cold War.
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  1. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 12 June 2016 18: 28
    +16
    who does not ride that Moskal. Swedes cannot forgive Poltava for us in any way.).
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 12 June 2016 18: 46
      +29
      With all their might Sweden wants to marry NATO, but it seems they are not against it. Already got these role-playing games! am
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 June 2016 19: 15
        +5
        As always, once in a hundred years, Russia will educate Europe, or maybe they themselves ... all in one word - paranoia and knock more grandmas out of taxpayers.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. WKS
        WKS 12 June 2016 19: 34
        +5
        Quote: Major Yurik
        With all their might Sweden wants to marry NATO, but it seems they are not against it. Already got these role-playing games!

        Normal polygamy, all in a pose and in a circle, and only the United States takes turns applying to everyone.
        1. Ros64
          Ros64 13 June 2016 09: 44
          0
          If they do not think with their own head, but think with the coccyx, then the black shepherd will regularly move their coccyx.
      4. Andrey K
        Andrey K 12 June 2016 21: 27
        +17
        Quote: Major Yurik
        With all their might Sweden wants to marry NATO, but it seems they are not against it. Already got these role-playing games! am
    2. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 12 June 2016 19: 02
      +16
      Abbra (1) RU Today, 18:28 New
      We look forward to the Swedish article on Sweden’s submarine, which Sweden found in its waters ... recourse

      Shoigu already answered them all laughing
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 12 June 2016 19: 47
        +1
        Quote: Grandson of Veteran
        Shoigu already answered them all

        As the responsible owner of two black cats, I recklessly declare. It is enough to twist a cat comb, they will draw themselves.
        Is it true that schwyds are inviting us to scratch our ears? At whose expense is this banquet
      2. AnaBat
        AnaBat 12 June 2016 21: 59
        +10


        And some people still have to study and study ...
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 12 June 2016 20: 38
      0
      So come on, download .. Who will jump higher than the Swedes or the nation U ..
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 12 June 2016 20: 56
      +1
      Ukrainian and Baltic politicians realized in time that any of their mistakes can be blamed on Russia, now such delusional accusations sound almost daily. But fewer citizens believe in this box.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 12 June 2016 20: 57
      +4
      An intelligent and polite Swede gracefully called his entire Swedish leadership dolbyzvonyami ...
    6. Andrey K
      Andrey K 12 June 2016 21: 39
      +14
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      who does not ride that Moskal. Swedes cannot forgive Poltava for us in any way.).

      In vain you are so, about "Nenka" and her garish lads ... laughing
      Oh, what am I talking about ... what nonsense ... lads ... They won’t ride today ... They’re in European democracy today in Kuev, today laughing
      Nekoli them gallop, bugger - a parade with them, do not slander the non-Khloptsev laughing
      1. BEECH 1972
        BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 09: 10
        0
        Quote: Andrey K
        Nekoli them gallop, bugger - a parade with them, do not slander the non-Khloptsev

        But how happy ukropeyskie sexual minorities, "gee and" and other perverts. Finally, the ruins of the country were given to their playful hands. Now it remains to make "Lyashko" president and strengthen his position in the parliament and ministries as representatives of minorities, and then happiness will come, and everything will be like real Europeans. Freedom of minorities, all rights of minorities, the traditional family and its relations are the enemy of a free European and a citizen.
  2. poquello
    poquello 12 June 2016 18: 28
    +4
    RT Swedes need, judging by the delusions of their individual upper comrades there the problem of real perception
  3. Abbra
    Abbra 12 June 2016 18: 28
    +3
    We are looking forward to the Swedish article on the submarine that Sweden found in its waters ... recourse
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2016 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: Abbra
      We are looking forward to the Swedish article on the submarine that Sweden found in its waters ... recourse

      already was - with a trough perpetuated
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 June 2016 18: 45
      +2
      Quote: Abbra
      We are looking forward to the Swedish article on the submarine that Sweden found in its waters ...

      Why not found, already found, it turned out it was a Swedish submarine wassat
      They are already afraid of their own shadow.
    3. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 12 June 2016 19: 05
      +5
      We found the boat "Som" which was peacefully rammed by a neutral Swedish steamer in PMV after being inspected during a dive ...
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  5. svp67
    svp67 12 June 2016 18: 36
    +10
    One of the affected retail chains, Maxima, panicked and said Russia was behind the boycott.
    Accusing us of "worship of rank" and the deification of the GDP, the collective West itself did not notice how it slipped to the point that they simply "cannot live" without the GDP. Seeing his "hand" or "will" everywhere. If this continues, then they will achieve a completely different effect, since against the background of the complete "impotence" of the authorities, people more and more begin to understand that they need a leader like the GDP, and since there are no such candidates, they begin to tend to think that with Russia and the GDP one should not conflict, but live together
    1. Are
      Are 12 June 2016 19: 27
      +4
      There is no longer anything bright in the life of the "collective West" except for the GDP .... They get up with his name in the morning, go to bed with his name in the evening)) and during a break they get scared))
    2. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 09: 19
      0
      Quote: svp67
      If this continues, then they will achieve a completely different effect, since against the background of the complete "impotence" of the authorities, people more and more begin to understand that they need a leader like the GDP, and since there are no such candidates, they begin to tend to think that with Russia and the GDP one should not conflict, but live together

      I completely agree. Some politicians have already made official statements that most of their constituents would not mind inviting the president to the GDP in their state.
  6. sergey2017
    sergey2017 12 June 2016 18: 45
    +4
    Quote: Abbra
    We are looking forward to the Swedish article on the submarine that Sweden found in its waters ... recourse

    I want to clarify that Sweden has found its submarine! Swedish naval officers do not distinguish between their submarine signals from those of other countries! Therefore, from time to time in the press of Sweden there are articles about "unknown" (own) submarines that appeared off its coast!
  7. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 12 June 2016 18: 48
    +52
    3,49 euros x 73,19 rubles = 277 rubles ... belay My wife bought a white cabbage (Kazakhstan) - 3 kg. + Three bunches of fresh dill = 127 rubles ... Chopped with a fillet knife, to a hairy state, added dill (local), salt (Orenburg), sugar (Belgorod), washed with old man's fists until juice, a little vinegar (I don’t know whose, but judging by the price and the bottle, it’s non-European), for twenty minutes in the freezer ... And, having wound, these divine light green cabbage "hair", exuding an extraterrestrial smell dill, vinegar and fresh cabbage on a silver fork of 1902 (in the right hand) and 127 gr. in a faceted glass "little white" (on the left), I suddenly realized: European culture is alien to me, with its fucking problems ... belay
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 12 June 2016 20: 00
      +3
      Quote: ALABAY45
      I suddenly realized: European culture is alien to me, with its fucking problems ...

      - Vovochka how many will be twice two?
      Damn Masha flew in, father throws a second week. Mom contacted not knowingly with whom
      - Four, Maryivanovna. I would have your problems.

      Everything ran for the ingredients
    2. Pulya
      Pulya 13 June 2016 09: 08
      0
      ALABAY45
      Haunted !!!!!!!!!
    3. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 09: 33
      0
      Quote: ALABAY45
      And, having wound, these divine light green cabbage "hair", exuding an extraterrestrial smell of dill, vinegar and fresh cabbage on a silver fork 1902 onwards (in the right hand) and 127 gr. in a faceted glass "little white" (on the left), I suddenly realized: European culture is alien to me, with its fucking problems.

      And you are a cruel man, Monsignor. Cruel man and tempter am. Today I will have to go for the same miracle to the cellar, to the village, because I am afraid of saliva coming out. smile
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 June 2016 18: 51
    +1
    You can't hide the truth in a sack. We ourselves need to tell the truth, and everyone will gradually get used to it. Like - if you want to know the truth, read what the Russian central mass media write (well, don't listen to Echo!), And you will be in the correct understanding of the moment. It is a pity that journalists cannot be forced not to add or lie. Creative personalities, Christmas tree sticks. Otherwise, they would have gained some authority in the world, wow, but this is capital. And very valuable.
  9. t118an
    t118an 12 June 2016 18: 52
    +4
    And yet, Sweden is a sickly notorious thing. They are trying to pretend to be neutral, but American bank accounts are still better. The author, trying very hard to write an objective article, is under the influence of Russophobic propaganda, fearing to be accused of collaborating with the Kremlin. And the story with the "carpenters" is very indicative from the point of view of the petty and helpfulness of the Swedes. Such pettiness and suspicion of tricks was only picked up by representatives of the under-empire who visited London.

    "At the same time, the head of the Stockholm police invited several carpenters to the restaurant in the hope that the manners will give them out in disguised officers." ... Now the guys were probably delighted wink
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 12 June 2016 23: 12
      0
      and so what opinion about the Swedish police for the men can not be expressed in words ..
  10. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 12 June 2016 18: 54
    +8
    Today's Russophobia resembles the situation a hundred years ago.
    And here is no. This is an attempt to blame total theft, gouging, gagging, greed of big capital on ... a neighboring state. A typical bourgeois attempt to incite national hatred in order to divert the attention of the working people away from reality.
    “So, already at the beginning of 1987, perestroika was not a means, but
    purpose, a symbol of endless and pervasive change. General reception on
    arming the concept of "perestroika" was very successful in the political and in any other sense. First of all, they began to cover it with inconsistency, and even simply the inability to work, the setting of more and more new tasks. At the same time, it turned out to be not at all obligatory to complete the “old” affairs and initiatives. So, behind many new slogans and promises, the last of which is a “bright market future”, we somehow forgot, say, about the recently developed Food Program. No one recalls her fathers, does not analyze why she failed, who made her career, what are the qualifications of her developers. But on the other hand, new “pioneer” undertakings are already widely advertised - intensive technologies, brigade contract, farming.

    Perestroika is hiding behind such a phenomenon as irresponsibility.
    Discussions around new problems remove in the public mind the question of responsibility for the failure to implement previously adopted decisions. Questions about the competence of their authors do not even arise. Who, for example, is responsible for disrupting decisions to modernize engineering or, say, who and how worked
    over the implementation of the housing program?

    For others, perestroika created what is called greenhouse conditions.
    parasitize on the conquests of previous generations of fighters for the Motherland, Fatherland, socialism. Playing the role of such an inveterate perestroika, you can live happily ever after, squandering right and left created by the hands of many generations of ancestors, up to the latest weapon systems, unique resources and national territory. ”

    "Choosing a New Course". Publishing house Mysl. 1987 seems to be the year.
    Changing "perestroika" to "Russophobia" and voila. The topic is different, but the methods are the same.
  11. Engineer engineer
    Engineer engineer 12 June 2016 19: 03
    +3
    How tired I am of these Baltic monks! But God’s not: he doesn’t give a vigorous cow to horns! This is me to myself ...
    And it would be so cool; Secretly impose the perimeter, move the fleet in all its forms (within, essno) and uncover it all with a green whistle! I understand that it is cruel! But got it !!!
    1. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 09: 43
      0
      Quote: Engineer sapper
      And it would be so cool; Secretly impose the perimeter, move the fleet in all its forms (within, essno) and uncover it all with a green whistle! I understand that it is cruel! But got it !!!

      What then do you want to do with them? Well, brothers, we cleared the Baltic lands of Western enemies and other Russophobia, and now here we urgently need to rebuild everything again ?! It is clear that they themselves ruined everything and sold it, but it’s a pity. Yes, and they are tepericha after all. Alas, but it has already happened and more than once. Maybe enough already?
  12. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 12 June 2016 19: 09
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Abbra
    We are looking forward to the Swedish article on the submarine that Sweden found in its waters ...

    Why not found, already found, it turned out it was a Swedish submarine wassat
    They are already afraid of their own shadow.


    So who is to blame? Sami muddied, and now squeak to the whole world!
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 12 June 2016 19: 26
    +7
    Many mention the RT channel, however, according to independent studies, its role and scale are exaggerated. I myself regularly watch his programs (mainly on the Internet), as he often talks about what the BBC and CNN are silent about for various reasons. Of course, information is often served with a noticeable bias in the Russian version of current political events.

    Of course it is more interesting to watch the BBC and CNN, especially when they show the shelling of Tskhinval by Georgians, passing it off as shelling Georgia with Russia or a test tube with Hussein’s chemical weapons. Trembling takes and anger fills democratic hearts. So I want to place guns on Gotland.
  14. Air defense SSH
    Air defense SSH 12 June 2016 19: 26
    +3
    All the hype about the Russian threat to the Baltic states is needed only by Amers for the argumentation of building up a military presence. The Balts themselves do not believe in this, and to whom? The young people have long been dumped to the west, there are only old people and a bummer who, for the sake of the European Union and Amer’s grandmothers, are ready to shut themselves up Jurmala, seaports, gas, etc. - if only not with Russia ...
    And the Scandinavians are infected from them as if in an anecdote: drunk to the doctor - the doctor dragons crawl for me ...
    doctor shaking himself - why are you dumping them on me?
    1. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Air Defense SVSh
      All the hype about the Russian threat to the Baltic states is needed only by Amers for the argumentation of building up a military presence.

      Rather, for argumentation and motivation, more and more considerable financial costs. For even membership in NATO is very expensive, but what can we say about the stalling of the Allied battalions and the strengthening of the contingent? It’s just that some particularly fastidious people have already talked about NATO as a senseless infusion of funds into the military-industrial complex of the NATO leaders, not to mention the enrichment of the military-industrial complex and the politicians controlling it, the oligarchs, the state of NATO. Therefore, the very owners urgently had to organize a less convincing argument, and add fuel to the fire of motivation.
  15. Barakuda
    Barakuda 12 June 2016 19: 42
    +5
    It remains to recall the old
  16. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 12 June 2016 19: 52
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    As always, once in a hundred years, Russia will educate Europe, or maybe they themselves ... all in one word - paranoia and knock more grandmas out of taxpayers.


    One time SO to educate, so that there is never a desire to speak in our direction am
  17. Basil50
    Basil50 12 June 2016 20: 13
    +2
    Very amused about * democracy * in Sweden. The unselected king appoints and controls everything in the kingdom, including parliament. And morally, Sweden and the Swedes are not at all the best, nor the worst in Europe. Sweden * earned * on outright theft - when they stole most of the paid military order of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE. During WWII, through mediation in favor of the Nazis, they also raped money, and, of course, at charity - while saving rich Jews, they also made good money. How is it possible to turn out frank lies so that they appear in a gracious form and still moralize and teach? Apparently * the brilliance * of the yard allows the Swedes to overlook the obvious meanness. Just like in a swamp, below the abyss of dirt, but the eye * rejoices * in the beauty and richness of greenery.
  18. drundel861
    drundel861 12 June 2016 20: 33
    +1
    Well, I don’t believe that there are only morons behind the hill, there is a bleating sheep in every herd fool but a stupid controlled mass was drowned, and a person is smart capable of reasoning .......
  19. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 12 June 2016 20: 38
    +4
    Normal people do not have phobias. A mentally complete person does not succumb to propaganda.
    Still, the truth was told to us in the USSR about the decaying west, they did not believe in vain.
    The West is rotten and stinking, and it does not bring freedom to the world, but it forces us to accept all abomination for achievement.
  20. Pissarro
    Pissarro 12 June 2016 20: 55
    +1
    Amused, as a result of a special operation organized by Putin personally, for the poor Baltic states they raised the price of cabbage to a sky-high height laughing
    Lord why we have neighbors laughing wassat
  21. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 June 2016 21: 05
    0
    The Swede who dragged Yanukovych for all protruding body parts "to Europe" in 2013. Now this "Swede" seems to consider the mission a success and switched to the search for submarines.
  22. pan.70
    pan.70 12 June 2016 21: 14
    +5
    I like this! They invent all kinds of nonsense for themselves, and then they swear! We have something on the drum that they have d-mo in the head.
  23. atamankko
    atamankko 12 June 2016 21: 44
    0
    I doubt the normal mental state of Western figures,
    they are zombified "exceptional", but they themselves do not want to think.
  24. behemot
    behemot 12 June 2016 23: 00
    +1
    sooner or later you have to answer for the bazaar. Only then will it be late - broken noses and broken teeth.
  25. Nasty
    Nasty 12 June 2016 23: 33
    +2
    . Baltic Times gives a fair, albeit hardly completely objective picture
    no, okay. :)
  26. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 13 June 2016 02: 05
    0
    Something with the word "Swedes" the word "Poltava" is recalled, purely genetically. And for all the Englishmen we have Vasya Berezutsky. It was not we who earned a point, it was two "legitimate" ones that were torn away from them. They will remember 50 years. laughing... And our "woodcutters" are good for them! You look, maybe they are creating more. Why not ? The leader's yellow jersey is free until ...
    Well, that's me, figuratively.
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 13 June 2016 02: 22
      0
      50 years will remember
      It’s probably 5 days. This is just a game of ball. And this game and its results, as a rule, are exceptionally important for people of the human race who are not burdened with reason.
  27. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 13 June 2016 04: 46
    +2
    Well, if European and other Papuans do not care who and what to believe, then so be it. In the world of the Internet, everyone can find any information and accept or not accept what their government writes on fences.
  28. erik cartman
    erik cartman 13 June 2016 07: 27
    0
    Quote: wks
    Quote: Major Yurik
    With all their might Sweden wants to marry NATO, but it seems they are not against it. Already got these role-playing games!

    Normal polygamy, all in a pose and in a circle, and only the United States takes turns applying to everyone.

    Moreover, only males are involved. On the topic: always, when rulers have nothing to answer to citizens, the search for an external enemy begins. We have a different way. Dima in Crimea stated that there was no money, and the wise Vova covered it up, saying that the phrase was taken out of context. Although Dima said bluntly and unequivocally: you stay here, the main thing is health, etc. And no one claims that the Swedes, Balts, Poles, Indians are to blame for the problems :), further down the list. The cause of ills must be sought within the country and leadership, something like this.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 June 2016 07: 41
      +1
      Quote: erik cartman
      And no one claims that the Swedes, Balts, Poles, Indians are to blame for the problems :), further down the list. The cause of ills must be sought within the country and leadership, something like this.

      That's right, but when there was a high oil price and there were no sanctions, the reason for the growth of the economy, for some reason, was not searched inside the country's leadership.
    2. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 10: 28
      0
      Quote: erik cartman
      We have a different way.

      Who has it? From the Nazi pilot ss-sheep "Eric Hartman", or from the club of his adherents from YouTube, what comes from second-hand Ukraine?
  29. CORNET
    CORNET 13 June 2016 08: 45
    +1
    Although I’m not a fan, I’m still impressed by how our English fans were dispersed ... Well, they give! angry
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 June 2016 09: 24
    0
    Does anyone know when and with whom Sweden last fought?
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 June 2016 11: 49
      0
      With whom was the last time the Russian Federation fought?
    2. BEECH 1972
      BEECH 1972 16 June 2016 10: 46
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      Does anyone know when and with whom Sweden last fought?

      Despite the officially declared neutrality, we can say that in WWII Sweden fought on the side of Hitler and his allies. Since in the ranks of the Wehrmacht there were armed Swedish units, and official Stockholm was lending its full credit to Nazi Germany, having launched extensive trade with the Hitler party. Actually, Sweden was the largest supplier of iron ore for Nazi Germany, moreover, it provided unhindered transit through its territory for troops and weapons, supplying Wehrmacht formations in the north with weapons and food.