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In search of growth in trade with China, decided to sell the ore deposits of the Far East?

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At the end of last year, the General Administration of Customs of China published information on the dynamics of trade with the main economic partners. If you believe the statistics of the Chinese Ministry, Russia in the list of China’s trading partners dropped to 15, reducing its share in the total pie of Chinese trade and economic relations to 55 billion dollars (slightly more than 1,7% of the total figure for China). The total decline in comparison with 2014 year was more than 29%. And this is against the background of the fact that even in 2014, Russia and China had already predicted in the near (at that time) time “breaking through” the mark in 100 billion dollars in trade turnover.

If we talk about the top three in terms of trade with China, it is the United States (460 billion dollars), Japan (227 billion dollars) and South Korea (223 billion dollars). Western expert associations are included in the leaders in partnership with the PRC Hong Kong, but China considers this territory to be associated, and therefore does not mention it in terms of reflecting indicators of foreign trade.

Russian analytical agencies almost 30% decline in volumes of Russian-Chinese trade confirm, however, adding that you need to first pay attention not to the dollar equivalent, but to the volume of trade interaction, if I may say so, in physical terms. More than a significant decline in dollar terms is clear: the Russian ruble exchange rate has declined against the dollar, which contributed to the estimates of the level of trade. However, the "natural expression" also shows a negative trend. Of course, not the same 29%, but also quite noticeable - almost 11%. For countries with such resource (in every sense of the word) base and with such potentials, losing 11% of “natural” turnover and mutual investments is an unaffordable luxury, especially in conditions of ongoing economic turbulence.

At the 2 Russian-Chinese business forum of small and medium-sized businesses that took place not so long ago, the question of a return to a sustainable growth in mutual investments was also raised. Considering the fact that the forum was organized by the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia, the goal of turning the dynamics in trade relations with the PRC was the main one. Yes, and in the agenda of the forum, the goals were outlined without any floridity and the ornate refinements inherent in the Eastern mentality. From materials Forum (about goals):

development of a direct platform of direct contacts between representatives of business circles of the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China and organizations involved in creating a favorable business environment, as well as creating positive conditions for developing cooperation between small and medium businesses of the two countries, including practical tools and interaction mechanisms, presentation of investment projects .

In search of growth in trade with China, decided to sell the ore deposits of the Far East?


And this is a list of topics that representatives of Chinese business circles expressed interest in:
joint development of agriculture,
joint projects in the media,
joint projects in the oil industry,
joint projects in the field of machine tools,
joint projects in the production of spare parts for motor vehicles,
projects in the field of high technologies,
joint projects in the field of electronics,
joint energy projects.


The week had hardly passed since the end of the business forum, as it was announced that a large Chinese investor was going to Russia. If this material was interrupted, then everything would look quite good: against the background of a fall in commodity turnover, the business communities of the two countries decided to take the economic bull by the horns and redraw the system of relations to resume sustainable investment growth. Won - and the investor immediately showed interest ...

However, the material continues, and the information received about the arrival of an investor from the PRC clearly needs further consideration and clarification. The fact is that this investor is not just an investor, but a whole investment fund - Highland Fund. And this foundation is not something that would go to Russia, walked and finally reached today ... The zest is that Highland Fund in Russia, he decided to implement the project back in 2015, but then his application was immediately sent to the FAS for "careful consideration". The reason for this consideration is related to the desire of the Chinese investment partnership to buy a part of the shareholding in the Bystrinsky gold-copper-iron-ore (universal) deposit. The expected annual production of this deposit is about 66 thousand tons of copper, 2,5-3 million tons of iron ore concentrate, 7-8 tons of gold and 35-36 tons of silver. The total capacity is about 10 million tons of ore annually. With this level of production, the field will last for about 30 years. The owner of the field is the Russian giant Norilsk Nickel (co-owner of Norilsk Nickel itself, as we know, Vladimir Potanin).

And so, after the mentioned Sochi forum, the FAS decided that there were no violations when buying the 13% of the Russian deposit by the Chinese, and that it was necessary to sell ... And not even 13%, but already, as it turns out, more.

It is noted that immediately after the transaction, the Chinese fund will have the opportunity to bring its stake to 20% and at the same time become a shareholder in the Norilsk Nickel partner in Bystrinsky, which gives additional opportunities and guarantees. According to Potanin, this will enable the project to enter the Chinese stock exchanges.

And then there are questions. According to the Chinese classification, such investments are regarded as medium business. Returning to the forum held in Sochi, it is worth noting that there was nothing about the subsoil use in the list of points in which the guests from the PRC were interested. Or is the project of selling to Chinese investors shares of a large field in the Gazimuro-Zavodsky district of Transbaikalia somehow falls under the status of "high technology" technologies?

The question is also why it was necessary to sell a foreign company (even if it was a hundred times investment) one of the most promising assets of Norilsk Nickel with an EBITDA margin of 50% (an indicator equal to the amount of profit before deducting expenses for all interest, taxes, and accrued depreciation)? And selling at the moment when there were several months left before the launch of the GOK ... The Chinese, as already noted, submitted an application as early as December, but while it was being considered by the FAS, the infrastructure continued to be built with domestic funds, and both as private funds (Norilsk Nickel invested about 8 billion rubles), and on public - the partnership in this case, the private-public. In general, we reached the moment when we sell on a silver platter. Or does the “all the best for partners” logic work again?

Although it is possible to ask questions and be surprised at individual decisions, but in any case it will be announced that all this is for the economic benefit of Russia and the Russian people proper. Well, not the Chinese ... Now and in the FAS agree ...

It turns out that the growth point of trade with China was discovered - the sale of mineral deposits to Chinese companies ... If we could stop at the announced 13,3%, this would not be the most deadly option, but would it be enough to stop if new "science-intensive" proposals were received from partners? ..
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  1. PKK
    PKK 10 June 2016 05: 24
    +22
    Chinese people with shameless eyes don’t be foolish, give them gold and copper deposits. It’s advisable to recommend such friends to the museum. Chinese people are dissatisfied with Medvedev, let's work better with gold and copper right away.
    1. Motherland Russia
      Motherland Russia 10 June 2016 05: 41
      +25
      With China, you need to measure out not seven times to do, but a hundred and seven ... stop
      Who - who, and they know how to write between the lines.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 10 June 2016 06: 01
        +20
        Today is China, and tomorrow who? It is only worth starting to sell everything, if only the money is faster and more.
        1. okunevich_rv
          okunevich_rv 10 June 2016 06: 37
          +42
          Lukashenko, in response to the sale of the tire factory, asked for a share of the oil field, he was ridiculed, but here, please take the Chinese.
          The question is, didn’t you bring Lukashenko?
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 10 June 2016 07: 44
            +16
            Quote: okunevich_rv
            Lukashenko, in response to the sale of the tire factory, asked for a share of the oil field, he was ridiculed, but here, please take the Chinese.
            The question is, didn’t you bring Lukashenko?

            I also don’t understand why our Belarusians cannot, what the Chinese can!
            . “On the whole, we very carefully approach the admission of our foreign partners, but, of course, there are no restrictions for our Chinese friends,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with Deputy Prime Minister of the State Council of China Zhang Gaoli

            http://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/258542/
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 10 June 2016 08: 19
              0
              Alexey, I still don’t understand what is the crime request
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 10 June 2016 11: 19
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Alexey, I still don’t understand what is the crime

                ... well, there is nothing ... just Mr. "Journalist" is haunted by "fried materials" ... it's so simple: ... take a snake, a hedgehog and get three meters of barbed wire ... laughing ... the forum was held from May 30–31, 2016 ... well, the application to the FAS was submitted by the Chinese in December 2015 ... do you feel the "objectivity" of the presentation of the material ?! ... more ... a "play on words" "belongs to Potanin" and "is sold to the Chinese" ... no Mr. "Journalist" does not belong to Potanin the deposit ... go and study the legislation of the Russian Federation! ... Potanin belongs development licensefor which he paid money to the Russian State ! ... and not for sale to the Chinese! ... ah, the Chinese I invest in field development ... they themselves will buy its products and only then can they become partners ... these are the words that the Journalist threw out of the interview Potanin, quote:
                Chinese investors can act not only as shareholders, but also as partners of Bystrinsky, concluding a contract for the purchase of its products, believes "Nornickel". Source: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/71731
                ... feel the difference ?! ... so how is Mr. "Journalist" objectivity there? ... liquid, very liquid ... laughing ... well and final, quote:
                It turns out that a point of growth in trade with China was discovered - the sale of mineral deposits laughing to Chinese companies ... If they could stop at the announced 13,3%, then this is not the most killer option, but will there be enough strength to stop if new “high-tech” proposals from partners come in? ..
                ... for the sake of the last paragraph, so many "smart words" above have been written, or rather compiled and crossed by genetic engineering ... Mr. "Journalist" should not combine the two ancient professions ... try to be just a Journalist and objective. .. negative
                1. Volodin
                  10 June 2016 12: 53
                  +10
                  Eka (Inok10) disassembled you ... If you read the article diagonally, then this is not a reason to rage in the comments.

                  For this quote you give:

                  they themselves will buy its products and only then can they become partners ...


                  And when you go to the grocery store, do you always want to buy a stake in a bakery in 13% and insist on partnership with this very bakery? A Chinese investor, intending to acquire Russian metals, insists. First of all ...

                  And, tell me more that the real owner of the deposits and subsoil is our people ...

                  I thought that you are a thinking and not naive reader ... And then with insults - the sword is bald. Not a man.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 10 June 2016 13: 02
                    +5
                    Alexei, please clarify:

                    It is noted that immediately after the transaction, the Chinese fund will be able to bring its stake to 20% and at the same time to change from a shareholder to a partner Nornickel according to Bystrinsky, which gives additional opportunities and guarantees

                    What kind of status is this - "partner"?
                    - More than 25% of the shares (usually) - blocking stake. Gives a veto when voting on the board of directors
                    - more than 50% - a controlling stake

                    And what is 20% and what is the difference between a "shareholder" and a "partner" - here I somehow .. get lost request

                    IMHO 20% (as well as 13%) of the shares are "about nothing" (unless, of course, there is another 5% of minority shareholders who will vote with this 20%).

                    Maybe what I missed in this life?

                    Thank you in advance for clarification. hi
                    1. Volodin
                      10 June 2016 15: 07
                      +2
                      Roman, do you need to explain? .. smile The partner is the same shareholder, but who was involved in the creation and development of the project. So far, all funds for the creation and development have gone according to the state-private system without the participation of Chinese investors (it is possible that this is purely due to the delay of the FAS decision).

                      Regarding minority shareholders ... If you believe earlier plans to sell part of state assets in public-private partnerships, the emergence of not only 5% minority shareholders, but also a greater percentage of them, cannot be ruled out.
                  2. Inok10
                    Inok10 10 June 2016 14: 10
                    +4
                    Quote: Volodin
                    Eka (Inok10) disassembled you ... If you read the article diagonally, then this is not a reason to rage in the comments.

                    ... naturally ... after your opus:
                    - Kudrin returns
                    - Placement of Russian Eurobonds
                    ... where just now you have also demonstrated a very "modest knowledge of the legislation of the Russian Federation" and selectivity in understanding the essence of things ... it's like turning an elegant suit inside out and presenting it as squalor ... well, here's Mr. Journalist ... really interesting material on the topic of selling the Motherland and squandering the resources of the Country for which you so "vividly and peculiarly" worry:
                    According to media reports, petitions were filed with American and German courts in which Russia is suing former Yukos shareholders to protect their assets from seizure, which describe the unlawful acts committed by the participants in the privatization of this oil company.
                    The essence of the charges is as follows: six co-owners of Yukos carried out a series of “illegal payments”, that is, bribes, to officials who gave them the opportunity to purchase Yukos shares in 1995 and 1996 through offshore companies. These officials are Sergey Muravlenko, Yuri Golubev, Victor Kazakov and Victor Ivanenko. The government officials in question were Yukos’s government-appointed managers at the time and helped fine-tune the privatization process in favor of the oligarchs, immediately making them billionaires. The total amount of the bribe is also indicated - about $ 2 billion. And here the documents confirming this were submitted to the American and European courts.
                    And I really want to see the reaction of some structures to the charges set forth in the petitions of Russian lawyers. Indeed, in the materials of the Russian side several symbolic names are indicated: Sergey Muravlenko is the former chairman of the board of directors of the Yukos company, who for many years has been a deputy of the State Duma from the Communist Party faction. Viktor Kazakov is the former first vice president of Yukos Oil Company JSC, now a State Duma deputy from the United Russia faction. By the way, Kazakov will run for the Duma this year as well. He confidently took 1st place in the preliminary vote in his constituency. By the way, there is not a word about his work in Yukos on the official website of the Preliminary Vote in his biography. Source: https://cont.ws/post/290941
                    ... we read for the Communist Muravlenko - a deputy of the State Duma of the 4th, 5th and 6th convocations, a member of the Committee on Natural Resources and Environmental Management, Communist Party faction ... laughing ...
                    Quote: Volodin
                    And, tell me more that the real owner of the deposits and subsoil is our people ...
                    ... study the legislation on the topic, there are many interesting things ... hi
                    I thought that you are a thinking and not naive reader ... And then with insults - the sword is bald. Not a man.
                    ... that's why I was indignant that I am a thinking person ... just like a man ... and said everything in person ...
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 10 June 2016 14: 12
                      +4
                      P.S. ...... and, here is a fighter for the Happiness of the people from the Communist Party - Muravlenko - according to information provided by candidates for the CEC, Muravlenko’s revenues for 2006 amounted to 494 million rubles. Muravlenko also has bank deposits worth more than 2,5 billion rubles., shares of 37 companies, two land plots (9222 and 18110 sq. m.). In addition, the 2007 Porsche Cayenne S vehicles and Maybach-57 2003 release (cost reaches 500 thousand euros)
                      Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party V. Rashkin, speaking in defense of Muravlenko, said:
                      “Muravlenko never deviated from the program of the Communist Party. Supported all its anti-capitalist initiatives, actions, bills and programmatic provisions"... the curtain of the show is over ... fighter for national happiness and anti-capitalist, shareholder of 37 enterprises in Maybach ... laughing
                    2. Volodin
                      10 June 2016 15: 01
                      +3
                      it is like a man and he said it all in the face

                      Mr. Visitor, in order to speak like a man and in person, "you first need to at least present your own face on your avatar, you are our epic hero ...

                      study legislation on the topic, there are many interesting things


                      You, apparently, well studied and firmly convinced that people - the owner of the above-mentioned subsoil and natural resources.

                      I am glad that you have such an opinion and that you expressed it, though in a rather strange form. I took note of it. Thank.

                      Regarding Rashkin, Muravlenko, etc. - here it is not forbidden for anyone to prepare and send their own materials for publication. I would be glad to meet you personally.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 10 June 2016 15: 40
                        +5
                        Quote: Volodin
                        You, apparently, have studied well and firmly assured that the people are the owners of the aforementioned subsoil and natural wealth.

                        ... open:
                        "BASIS OF LEGISLATION OF THE UNION OF THE SSR AND THE UNION REPUBLIC ON THE MINING"
                        (as amended and supplemented by Decrees of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces
                        from 20.09.1979/1979/39 - Vedomosti Armed Forces of the USSR, 643, N XNUMX, Art. XNUMX;
                        from 08.06.1984/1984/24 - Vedomosti Armed Forces of the USSR, 422, N XNUMX, Art. XNUMX;
                        from 02.12.1987 - Vedomosti Armed Forces of the USSR, 1987, N 49, Art. 791)
                        ... read:
                        Article 3. State (public) ownership of subsoil in the USSR
                        (as amended and supplemented by Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of 20.09.1979/XNUMX/XNUMX)

                        In accordance with the Constitution of the USSR, subsoil in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is state property - common property all Soviet people.
                        (as amended and supplemented by Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of 20.09.1979/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                        Subsoil in the USSR are the exclusive property of the state and are provided only for use. Actions that directly or implicitly violate the right of state ownership of the subsoil are prohibited.
                        ... own и property, all the same there are different concepts ?! ... is not it so ? ...
                        ... open:
                        "On Subsoil" (as amended by Federal Law No. 3-FZ of March 1995, 27) (as amended on July 13, 2015) (as amended from January 1, 2016)
                        ... read:
                        Article 1_2. Subsoil Property

                        The subsoil within the borders of the territory of the Russian Federation, including the underground space and the minerals contained in the subsoil, energy and other resources, are state property. Issues of ownership, use and disposal of mineral resources are jointly the responsibility of the Russian Federation and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.

                        Subsoil plots may not be subject to purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, contribution, pledge or alienated in any other form. Subsoil use rights may be alienated or transferred from one person to another to the extent that their circulation is permitted by federal laws.

                        Minerals and other resources extracted from the subsoil can be in federal state ownership, property of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, municipal, private and other forms of ownership under the terms of the license.
                        ... there is a difference ?! ... state property, and the right to use is already - license ... it was not in vain that I asked you Alexey, to be more precise in the definitions in the commentary to the article on "Placement of Eurobonds", where you piled up people and horses, that is, the RF Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank of the RF ... it was, it was .. so, do not blame me ... that with regards to writing an article ... for 3 weeks now there is not enough time to finish about the Su-25SM3 ... oh, about politics ... thank you, I don't see her a place on the Military Review, from my purely humble point of view ... Alexey, if you are so offended, accept my apologies for being harsh, but I had objective reasons for that, this is your third publication with complete disregard for the legislation of the Russian Federation and turning the essence of what is happening inside out ... accept criticism as a man, and not an offended girl who was denied ice cream ... do not be offended, there was no intention to offend you ... but the Journalist, first of all it is objectivity, not emotions ... Sincerely .. ...
                      2. Volodin
                        10 June 2016 16: 06
                        -1
                        Nevermind. Friday is in the yard, and here we break our spears. Both are good smile
                      3. Inok10
                        Inok10 10 June 2016 16: 21
                        +2
                        Quote: Volodin
                        Nevermind. Friday is in the yard, and here we break our spears. Both are good smile

                        ... drinks ... I agree ...
        2. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 10 June 2016 14: 22
          +4
          If only to sell everything, but there, though do not dawn.
          Can our government sell to anyone? In a place with a thought. At least some benefit will be ...
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 10 June 2016 09: 48
        +8
        And what is Potanin a kindergarten boy? Zadolbali these new Russians, the fast ruble and strive to grab. Wu is faithful that in China, the Beitzer would immediately cut off for such an owner.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 10 June 2016 10: 13
        0
        In search of growth in trade with China, decided to sell the ore deposits of the Far East?

        There is no way to let this down! Let us build factories with advanced equipment, for starters.
      4. bastard
        bastard 10 June 2016 18: 16
        +3
        Quote: Motherland Russia
        With China, you need to measure out not seven times to do, but a hundred and seven ...
        Who - who, and they know how to write between the lines.

        I heard that the American manual for businessmen says: "If you have concluded a very lucrative contract with a Chinese, re-read the text of the agreement and try to find where you fell in love."
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 10 June 2016 07: 21
      +7
      That's what I look at, we replaced the Chinese clothes with the Uzbek. With our government, Uzbeks will soon begin to sell mines. laughing
    3. Cossack Ermak
      Cossack Ermak 10 June 2016 10: 19
      +6
      Quote: PKK
      Chinese people with shameless eyes don’t be foolish, give them gold and copper deposits. It’s advisable to recommend such friends to the museum. Chinese people are dissatisfied with Medvedev, let's work better with gold and copper right away.

      We then sell this metal and will be in the form of electronics at a price of 10 times more expensive.
    4. Revolver
      Revolver 10 June 2016 15: 31
      0
      Well, and who does Russia sell wholesale and retail?what
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 10 June 2016 20: 19
      0
      Quote: PKK
      The lip is not stupid among the Chinese with shameless eyes, give them gold-copper deposits

      The second mission of BAM is the development of Siberia. Not especially our businessmen invest in the opening of new industries, mining and processing plants, and deposits.
      With China, you need to calculate everything very much, but they will invest more quickly
    6. bazalt16
      bazalt16 12 June 2016 22: 44
      +1
      The Chinese perfectly see who is what and how much is in the country's leadership. Mao-Tse-Tung and his associates were waiting for a reception at Stalin's for days, and when they began to grumble he said: "A great man is great things. We can wait." Medvedev? Liberal demagogue, "exaggerated" authority. About Khrushchev, after meeting with him, Mao said, "This one will lose everything." The Chinese dictate conditions, having huge reserves of money. Moreover, the Russian leadership trades in everything and everyone
  2. VP
    VP 10 June 2016 05: 33
    -9
    Again Volodin and again putinsilfsepropalo! laughing
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 10 June 2016 06: 36
      +12
      Quote: VP
      Again Volodin and again putinsilfsepropalo!

      Read this and you will understand whether Volodin is right or wrong.
      http://www.ampravda.ru/2015/12/24/063151.html Не думайте что местная пресса на жареное падкая.Это реалии.Сливки с месторождения сняты.
      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/66969 А это сливки начинают снимать.Ну аБыстринское месторождение сам бог велел продать.Я специально не стал комментировать материал по ссылкам,но то что куанахский ГОК заработал в прессе не сообщалось.
      1. VP
        VP 10 June 2016 07: 00
        .
        Quote: Amurets
        Read this

        If I want to read, then I will not do it on the military resources. Which on the eve of the elections are very actively spammed by politics by the same people.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 10 June 2016 07: 38
          +9
          Quote: VP

          If I want to read, then I will not do it on the military resources. Which on the eve of the elections are very actively spammed by politics by the same people.

          I'm not talking about the elections, but about the fact that the riches of the Russian Federation are really starting to go to the PRC. So we can squander everything. The Chinese are already interested in the Vostochny cosmodrome, it will be very useful for them. And moreover, the PRC is very actively interested in our resources after the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Just widely it has not been published.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 June 2016 08: 27
            +1
            Quote: Amurets

            I’m not talking about the elections, but about the fact that the wealth of the Russian Federation is really starting to depart.

            How so?
            Quote: Amurets
            So we can squander everything. The Chinese are already interested in the Vostochny cosmodrome, it will be very useful to them.

            That is, the Chinese are planning that we will launch their satellites or their rockets from our space center and for this they will pay us money? This is bad?
            Quote: Amurets
            . And moreover, China is very actively interested in our resources after the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

            Resources after the Olympics ???? Are these the empty stadiums that are currently standing? The Chinese women do not know what to do with their own people.
            Sorry dear, but something I can not find a middle ground.
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 10 June 2016 05: 33
    +29
    We know firsthand what cooperation with China leads to in agriculture. I don’t think it will be better in the extraction of useful minerals. They will skim the cream off and leave, leaving the ruins, which we will have to restore at our own expense. I also remember the nice habit of "copying" other people's ideas. You should stay away from such partners. Well-sharpened bayonet distance.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 10 June 2016 13: 34
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail M

      How so?

      “The enterprise began work in 2010 and during this time produced more than 4,6 million tons of titanium magnetite concentrate and over 661 thousand tons of ilmenite concentrate. The products of the mine were exported to the countries of the Asia-Pacific region, mainly to China, and also to Japan. >> http://dp.media/news/ekonomika-i-biznes/olekminskiy-rudnik-
      v-amur
      skoy-oblasti-ostanovit-proizvodstvo-v-marte-2016-year / This is a link and quote about Olekminsky GOK. Cream removed
      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/66969 А это о Кипкано-Сутарском ГОК.Оба рудника принадлежат группе компаний "Петропавловск".Доля КНР в Олёкминском ГОК около 21%,В Кипкано-Сутарском 23,2%.После заявления Галушко о переносе китайскиж заводов на ДВ в Китае опять начинаются разговоры об отмене Айгуньского договора 1858 года и Пекинского трактата 1860 года,а также "Маньчжурского Клина",правда пока среди населения КНР. Это ссылка на перенос заводов. http://www.epochtimes.ru/ekologi-protiv-kitajskih-zavodov-na-dalnem-vostoke-vide

      o-99019098 /
      And here are links about the "Manchurian Wedge" .http: //clubklad.ru/blog/article/1259/
      http://maxpark.com/community/4109/content/2650915 И поверь,"Это мина замедленного действия,которую вроде пытались обезвредить в 90-е годы ХХ-го века,при демаркации границы.А теперь соединив предложения министра МинВостокразвития Галушко и теперешнюю статью,получим что в лучшем случае мы получим пустыню в худшем потеряем территории.Вот над этим надо поразмыслить и это притом что наблюдается отток населения с ДВ.
  4. cap
    cap 10 June 2016 06: 02
    +7
    If this is a state approach, then what is it justified for? If justified and agreed by the FAS (Article)
    Although it is possible to ask questions and be surprised at individual decisions, but in any case it will be announced that all this is for the economic benefit of Russia and the Russian people proper. Well, not the Chinese ... Now and in the FAS agree ...

    Maybe someone will expand the economic arguments, or does the people like that?
    Maybe Mr. Potanin will carry out pension indexation on earned money to pensioners as a partner of the state? Then no one is sure.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 10 June 2016 17: 44
      +1
      Maybe Mr. Potanin will carry out pension indexation on earned money to pensioners as a partner of the state? then sure no one is against. ,,
      Yeah, here Mr. Bear said, we carried out an indexation of 4%, and next year we will carry out inflation rates this year.
  5. Tsoy
    Tsoy 10 June 2016 06: 04
    +14
    But what about China, our great partner and ally? where is the new silk road from which the journalists choked at one time?
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 10 June 2016 08: 45
      +6
      If you believe the statistics of the Chinese department, then Russia fell to 15th place in the list of China’s trade partners, reducing its share in the total "pie" of Chinese trade and economic relations to $ 55 billion (a little more than 1,7% of the total figure for the PRC) . The total drop in comparison with 2014 was more than 29%. And this is against the background of the fact that back in 2014 in Russia and China they predicted that in the near future (at that time) they would “break through” the $ 100 billion mark in goods turnover.
      So much for the turn to the East, something all the efforts of our tops turn into zilch in practice. How much they shouted in the media about how the West would pour out its sanctions with burning tears and how the Chinese and I would compensate everything, and according to the Chinese themselves, it turns out that the turnover is falling, despite all the embrace of GDP and Si
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 10 June 2016 06: 05
    +14
    In general, it is necessary to legally prohibit the ownership of land, real estate and the development of mineral resources to foreign citizens and legal entities. To start. And then our officials will sell everything at a cheap price, if only to get a fatter rollback.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 10 June 2016 06: 39
      +5
      Absolutely agree. THE LAND is given by God and man a priori does not have the right of ownership to the common property. Private ownership of land - ABSOLUTE EVIL.
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 10 June 2016 16: 28
      +2
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      In general, it is necessary to legally prohibit the ownership of land, real estate and the development of mineral resources to foreign citizens and legal entities. To start. And then our officials will sell everything at a cheap price, if only to get a fatter rollback.

      First of all, it is necessary to return to the public ownership the fuel and energy and mining sectors, which, in fact, means to return power to the people.
      "The workers cannot have faith in the leaders where the leaders are rotten in the diplomatic game, where the word is not backed up by deeds, where the leaders say one thing and do another."
      “The dictatorship of the proletariat and the revolutionary peasantry means the dictatorship of the working majority over the exploiting minority, over landlords and capitalists, over speculators and bankers, in the name of a democratic peace, in the name of workers' control over production and distribution, in the name of land for the peasants, in the name of bread for the people. "
      I.V. Stalin.
  7. papont64
    papont64 10 June 2016 06: 11
    +14
    << What are you, you son of a bitch impostor, you squander the state lands? !! ​​so you can't get enough of any volosts ... >> Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession.
  8. Stas157
    Stas157 10 June 2016 06: 18
    +16
    Well, the Chinese have been pumping oil for a long time now, now they will mine gold and copper. And, here you are on the forum, resent, resent ... Nobody will ask you anyway!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 June 2016 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: Stas157
      Well, the Chinese have been pumping oil for a long time,

      And also the Americans are extracting gold from us, why are we silent?
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 10 June 2016 11: 48
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Stas157
        Well, the Chinese have been pumping oil for a long time,

        And also the Americans are extracting gold from us, why are we silent?


        Because in the quiet they crank it all up. To no one heard. And when someone tries to tell the rest of his fellow citizens about this, then they start to shut up his mouth with all their might. Yes, and swill to the fullest start to water. And in general, a lot of troubles in life begin to happen to him.

        So, to start talking, you need serious power behind. Otherwise, the talker is quickly shut up.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 June 2016 11: 07
      -5
      Let them get it - the main thing is that taxes should be regularly paid to our treasury and invested in infrastructure - where they will mine minerals.
  9. drunkram
    drunkram 10 June 2016 06: 20
    -7
    On the other hand, this is not bad, because new jointly created technologies will appear - on the other hand, I see a clear desire to get rich on Russian lands
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 10 June 2016 06: 32
      +10
      Quote: drunkram
      On the other hand, this is not bad, because new jointly created technologies will appear

      I don’t know about technology, but gold will definitely decrease!
      In African countries, probably a lot of technology! Since there, the development of minerals involved in Western countries.
    2. UralMan
      UralMan 10 June 2016 10: 50
      +7
      Quote: drunkram
      On the other hand, this is not bad, because new jointly created technologies will appear

      ---------
      what the hell is technology?
      What are you talking about?
      Red-haired how many years we rub our ears ...
      Yeah, an hour, the Chinese came and at times, yeah wait
      They can fart in puddles, let circles no more
      They began to give land to them for cultivation, what happened?
      Chemical crap was delivered to the market.
      Do you want more?
      -----------
      We get a donut hole from them, not technology
      You need to think with your head
  10. 24rus
    24rus 10 June 2016 06: 26
    +7
    You can still sell the whole forest, from under the forest chernozem, and from under chernozem all ores. And what remains to be leased
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 10 June 2016 07: 01
      +10
      In short, let's already sell out the whole of Russia, share the proceeds honestly between the boys and disperse to Europe, the Americas, China, Thailand, Japan and the Caribbean. wassat
      PS The logic of our officials.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 10 June 2016 08: 47
        +4
        buy cello to the rescue fellow
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 10 June 2016 11: 00
          +3
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          buy cello to the rescue

          we’ll set up tens of thousands of stadiums, we will hold hundreds of different Championships, Olympics ...
          And the people ... the people themselves will get out, but if someone is bent, then it’s his own fault
          But did we give a hectare to the Far East in the taiga? That the unemployed did not go ...
  11. smith7
    smith7 10 June 2016 06: 33
    +7
    This is a fact of real waste of resources. The event is clearly negative, depriving us of the future to some extent. The media are silent about it. We need to do something about it! What can we really do? Nothing! We and our children were doused with shit. We will flow around. Of course, instead of the Chinese, it would be necessary to re-privatize these resources into state property, but ... Something is interfering ... Something ...
    1. dengy12
      dengy12 10 June 2016 09: 05
      -2
      Quote: smith7
      smith7 (1) RU Today, 06:33 New

      This is a fact of real waste of resources. The event is clearly negative, depriving us of the future to some extent. The media are silent about it. We need to do something about it! What can we really do? Nothing! We and our children were doused with shit. We will flow around. Of course, instead of the Chinese, it would be necessary to re-privatize these resources into state property, but ... Something is interfering ... Something ...

      support the gcd
      collection of signatures for referendum http://refnod.ru/
      We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

      2 required articles:

      - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of generally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws:
      "4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes other rules than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied."
      (ban on the external management of Russia).

      - Cancellation of article 13, part 2, prohibition of ideology:
      "2. No ideology can be established as state or obligatory." (Without ideology, a country has no goal, no national idea).

      2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

      - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources:
      "2. Land and other natural resources may be in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership."
      By "other forms of ownership" we also mean foreign owners. And nowhere in the constitution is there a mention or a hint that land and natural resources are "the people's property of the citizens of Russia."
      (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

      - Cancellation of Art. 75 part 2 on the independence of the Central Bank:
      "2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it performs independently of other government bodies."

      (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 June 2016 13: 47
        +1
        "To withdraw the right to private property, to nationalize natural resources." - Yes, we have already started running - the more such nonsense you throw into the agitation, the more "wood" you will attract into your movement.
  12. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 June 2016 06: 37
    +8
    Here they are foreign investments, which the government is talking about!
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 10 June 2016 06: 47
    +5
    This is the creeping expansion in action - the Chinese simply crush our Far East.
    1. 24rus
      24rus 10 June 2016 06: 54
      +6
      The Chinese have nothing to do with it. Our hucksters are resolute and courageous mother ready to sell for the sake
  14. sa-ag
    sa-ag 10 June 2016 06: 53
    0
    Admittedly, they can easily reach Norilsk Nickel, the Chinese are a very difficult partner, they will move towards their goal under the guise of a good relationship between top officials, and solving the problem at that level
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 June 2016 11: 09
      0
      And what they get to Norilsk Nickel - the shares of this company and so on free sale.
  15. Million
    Million 10 June 2016 07: 21
    +4
    Shame on the Russian authorities! There are no other words
  16. old_pferd
    old_pferd 10 June 2016 07: 35
    -6
    Don't be so nervous. Look at the shareholders of gold mining companies - Petropavlovsk, Polymetal, not to mention the Chukotka mining company. And here is not such a big package.
    I do not understand, and here the squandering of the bowels. Are they taking him to China? The enterprise is Russian, it works according to our laws, pays taxes straight away, sells its products on the market.
    1. vjatsergey
      vjatsergey 10 June 2016 08: 45
      +4
      Yes, for a long time the Chinese have been tidying up the land in the Magadan region. In the village of Sovnarkhozny there was our farm, I worked for seven seasons in it, I quit in 2003, and in 2004 I learned that this land was sold to the Chinese. And in 2012, he worked in a Chinese company, so they had three land plots owned, a lot of Chinese were brought, only they couldn’t work without Russians, two Chinese worked with me as welders. So for a long time they have already settled in the Magadan region.
      1. old_pferd
        old_pferd 10 June 2016 09: 23
        +1
        So what? We bought an office with land licenses, mined gold, sold it to Russian banks (licensed to work with precious metals), paid taxes, and received money for the work. How do they fundamentally differ from the Uzbek janitor ...
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      3. old_pferd
        old_pferd 10 June 2016 09: 27
        +1
        And the plots are not owned. The mining license for placers is usually 5 years.
  17. afrikanez
    afrikanez 10 June 2016 08: 36
    +3
    Echoes of "dashing privatization" will resonate with us for a long time. Crooks bought, for a song, the largest enterprises and now they manage as if everything around them belongs to them.
  18. kirgudu
    kirgudu 10 June 2016 08: 40
    +2
    Natural resources, which belong to all citizens, are squandered by some dumb individuals who are crying if not a bullet, then a prison.
    They will wait for their own and the 17th and 37th.
    1. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 10 June 2016 09: 34
      +2
      Why dumb - former members of the CPSU and their offspring, criminals, traders, dealers, and the arrival of ebna in general, all the scum and the mass of Jews.
  19. Shustov
    Shustov 10 June 2016 08: 56
    +3
    Putin is sometimes weird and more and more, but so far people believe in him.
    Then he will probably tell in The Hague why "Gazprom" takes loans when it is the most profitable enterprise, so strange things happen on this object, but China is one of the likely opponents in all spheres.
    Sell ​​shares to the Russians a little more expensive than the Chinese than bad people will invest money in their own country !?
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 June 2016 09: 27
      +1
      Putin is a very good performer, but a worthless leader, especially in personnel policy! He keeps beside him and listens to all the liberalistic rubbish, not having the desire to change these direct pests or an empty place (Medvedev). In my opinion, it is the very place for him to be a deputy at Lavrov! And no more! In domestic politics, what was going on for him? Absolutely no progress. And all sorts of Kudrins, Grefs, Nabiullins rule us. And Medvedev is a dummy. If you want to fail the business reliably, entrust Medvedev and the business will fail reliably!
  20. Gray 43
    Gray 43 10 June 2016 09: 03
    +2
    As I understand it, Potanin founded his empire with "hard, backbreaking work" ...
  21. 31rus2
    31rus2 10 June 2016 09: 04
    +1
    Dear, why are we shouting if the laws themselves do not, have no money, it turns out there is no mind, even though the Chinese are working (irony), but in general it is strange that this and similar plants are still Russian, with our manic attraction of investments, it does not surprise
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 10 June 2016 14: 29
      +1
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, why are we shouting if the laws themselves do not, have no money, it turns out there is no mind, even though the Chinese are working (irony), but in general it is strange that this and similar plants are still Russian, with our manic attraction of investments, it does not surprise

      And if without irony? Where Chinese companies work, the salary is very miserable. The Russians do not go there to work.
  22. Vladimir
    Vladimir 10 June 2016 09: 21
    0
    Nobody wants to build factories, why not build an enterprise for the processing of the same rubbish, if you don’t let the wood go round, oil, ore. Lviv drowned in rubbish, it’s easier to enter the battalion of the National Guard than to build anything, I think that in many Russian cities there are problems .
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  24. dojjdik
    dojjdik 10 June 2016 09: 42
    0
    But the Israeli citizens bought up the floor of Moscow and nobody wonders like these panic articles like: - help Moscow soon manage to control the buit, and nowhere is it necessary that we have military agreements with China; the main thing here is to unleash the myth of the Chinese threat
  25. fzr1000
    fzr1000 10 June 2016 09: 45
    0
    The fact that the Chinese will have a 20% stake in the mine is not scary. As far as I know, the export of gold from Russia is prohibited, which means it will remain in the Russian Federation. Well, how is Potanin and the Chinese going to share the profit? Vseravno with us, and he will not share with the workers.
    1. old_pferd
      old_pferd 10 June 2016 10: 00
      +1
      Not completely banned. Offices with the appropriate license have the right to make operations with precious metals. And these licenses have a very limited number of Russian banks. Thus, gold miners can only sell gold to these banks. Or the State Bank, which has the preemptive right.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 June 2016 13: 28
      -1
      Well, maybe he will increase salaries and issue shares to workers, as well as increase dividends for shareholders.
  26. Coffin Cross1
    Coffin Cross1 10 June 2016 10: 53
    0
    It is sad to read the nonsense that China is our "partner". Here are the videos our "partner" makes:
    "A propaganda video about the war on the" northern front "appeared in China

    In China, a wave of video and animation propaganda is gaining momentum: after the appearance of a propaganda video of the People's Liberation Army, urging you to always be ready for the outbreak of hostilities, on May 4, on the anniversary of the appearance of the patriotic youth movement, another military propaganda video began to gain popularity in China .
    The May 4 Movement is the main memorable date of the Chinese Komsomol movement, which was formed on the basis of the patriotic movement of the Chinese Youth League. The May 4 Movement is directly related to the beginning of the protests of the patriotic youth of China against the Japanese occupation of Shandong Province (1919).
    However, the new video tells about the fighting in the snowy territories and completely bypasses the Japanese theme.
    Neither the theme of confrontation between communists and nationalists, nor the theme of the struggle against the Japanese occupation is shown in the video. At the same time, the animator depicts the heroes fighting against an unidentified enemy in the snow-capped mountains in the characteristic form and manner of the times of the Soviet-Chinese confrontation, which is the main "winter" plot in Maoist propaganda. The video uses an episode of the fifth series about the confrontation between the PRC and the USSR on Damansky Island of the popular animated series "Those Things in Those Years of That Hare" (2015), as well as episodes from the series about China's participation in the Korean War, the collapse of the USSR following the Afghan war. "
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 June 2016 11: 14
      -2
      If they go to Russia, all the same, Russia surpasses China in nuclear potential and they understand this very well.
      1. Coffin Cross1
        Coffin Cross1 10 June 2016 12: 25
        +2
        Vadim237, the Chinese have a different strategy. They seep silently into Siberia and the Far East. But they are not assimilating with the local population. When they become the majority, the Chinese army will come to live permanently. So what? Who will hit with nuclear charges in their population and in their territory? The Chinas are well aware of this and therefore behave so arrogantly. Now there are ore deposits, tomorrow there are processing plants with Chinese settlements, and then, Chinese cities with hundreds of thousands, for starters ...
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 10 June 2016 12: 40
          0
          the Chinese, they generally do not assimilate with anyone, if they come to live in separate groups and according to their own laws.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 June 2016 13: 13
          +1
          Their expansion will go to Asia - living conditions and climate are more favorable, and most importantly, Kazakhstan and all the rest do not have nuclear weapons.
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 10 June 2016 15: 34
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            and most importantly, Kazakhstan and all the rest do not have nuclear weapons.
            We are a member of the CSTO, which means that Russia provides all participants with nuclear security guarantees. That is, we hold a "nuclear umbrella" over all of them. Another thing is that we are all vulnerable to the so-called. "orange revolutions". Therefore, the United States does not throw tanks into the attack, but tries to launch the mechanism of socio-economic and ethno-religious unrest. All other countries are either used by the Americans "blindly" or "in a share" or sit and wait for the end, hoping to grab a fatter piece China is among the latter, but if in the Far East it only launches its furry economic paw, then in Afghanistan and Central Asia it can wave its tail and release the fire of war from itself. These are resources, this is a bridge to Europe and BV. As you know , after the fall of Beijing, the ORDA went west and overwhelmed all the flourishing states of Central Asia. And at the main rate there were always Chinese advisers. China was kind of defeated, but its position improved --- since the Great Silk Road ((Ch.絲綢之路 - sīchóuzhīlù, Uzbek Buyuk Ipak Yo'li, Uig. يىپەك يولى, Tajik Shoҳroҳi Abreshim, Kazakh Ұly Zhibek Zholu, Kyrgyz Uluu zhibek zholu, Persian جاده ابریشم арабاده ابریشمق, Arabic ريي मार्ग, Mong.Torgon deputy, Turkm.Beyik Ýüpek Ýoly) those the feather belonged to one master and Chinese merchants could more safely promote their goods to the markets of the Middle East and to the Mediterranean countries. The Chinese are very cunning people, the most ancient empire available. Although no, not so: all empires collapsed, and Chinese lands almost in those Do you know why? Nobody knows, but this is so. hi )))
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 10 June 2016 22: 57
              -1
              The CSTO is the same as NATO - it is on paper, but in fact it is not.
  27. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 10 June 2016 12: 37
    -1
    buy part of the shareholding in the Bystrinsky gold-copper-iron ore (universal) deposit. The expected annual productivity of this deposit is about 66 thousand tons of copper, 2,5-3 million tons of iron ore concentrate, 7-8 tons of gold and 35-36 tons of silver. The total productivity is about 10 million tons of ore annually. At this level of production, the field will last about 30 years. The owner of the deposit is the Russian giant Norilsk Nickel (co-owner of Norilsk Nickel itself, as you know, Vladimir Potanin).

    if you don’t play with these partners, if you give them a finger, they chop off a hand on the ass. Potanin and the like didn’t give a damn, they packed a suitcase and already in London.
  28. Chisayna
    Chisayna 10 June 2016 13: 07
    +1
    Especially for a grave with a cross, a grave without a cross, a coffin with a cross1, it’s a gop with a bow. I recently found out. China is already mining various metals in Siberia. In the underbelly from Russia. Company Lunsin.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 June 2016 13: 16
      0
      They all over the world are mining something, if we are not mining, then others will be mining - foreign investors.
  29. surrozh
    surrozh 10 June 2016 13: 25
    +1
    At one time, the Americans proposed to Stalin to build their base on the Kuril Islands. Stalin agreed, but with the condition of building a Soviet military base on the Aleutian. Offer withdrawn. Let the Chinese build a complete cycle of production with the sale of finished products - this would be an equal and mutually beneficial option for economic relations. And so we remain a raw materials appendage of the world, a poor country of the third world.
  30. Chisayna
    Chisayna 10 June 2016 13: 29
    -1
    It’s not the whole world. But the fact is that China is already in Russia. Although it’s how to look. China has been mining for a long time copper, lead, etc. And nothing. Here is a grave without a cross or a gop with a bow to find out.
  31. weksha50
    weksha50 10 June 2016 15: 06
    0
    "the infrastructure continued to be built with domestic funds, both private (Norilsk Nickel invested about 8 billion rubles) and state-owned - partnership in this case public-private"...

    Hmm ... The very point of public-private entrepreneurship is precisely to assist in the development of OWN entrepreneur ... The whole essence, all the salt - this is exactly ...

    And after all, this is not the first time that money invested by the state in enterprises suddenly floats out from under the nose with this enterprise ...

    The mercantile interests of cash aces from supposedly entrepreneurship go wild ... There are not a single statesman among them, there are only artifacts eager for madness ...

    PS And I won’t be surprised that they will sell the shares ... And 20, and 30%, and then too - and 50 ... Ugh !!!
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 13 June 2016 12: 15
      0
      Quote: weksha50
      And after all, this is not the first time that money invested by the state in enterprises suddenly floats out from under the nose with this enterprise ...

      George, hi

      And let's lower the heat slightly and try it out - what did it happen? I affirm that, in general, nothing belay

      Volodin, as always lying distorts, in order to "warm up the audience":

      The question also is why it was necessary to sell to a foreign company (even if it is at least a hundred times investment) one of the most promising assets of Norilsk Nickel

      - no one sells "one of the most promising assets"
      - shares are sold (already sold, by the way) of the Bystrinskoye gas distribution complex, which is developing the Bystrinskoye polymetallic deposit
      - 13.3% of shares sold give the Chinese the right to an appropriate share in the profits of the enterprise and the right to vote at a meeting of shareholders
      - neither the controlling (50% + 1), nor even blocking (25% + 1) the sold block of shares is
      - your

      Quote: weksha50
      I won’t be surprised that they will sell shares ... And 20, and 30%, and then too - and 50 ... Ugh !!!

      - we will blame emotions and lack of information. By the way, I have no more of this information, I just dealt with such "shares" back in 1996, and I know a little "kitchen"

      What is the bottom line:

      - Nornickel received $ 100 million for a stake in Bystrinskoye
      - The Chinese got a certain guaranteed profit (and it will definitely be there)
      - normal business practice yes

      That's all.

      All the screams about "selling enterprises to the side", "creeping Chinese expansion" and so on, and so on - have no grounds. From the word "absolutely".

      As for the "sale to the side" - we recall a certain Khodorkovsky (who just tried to make such a sale ... not even carry out - to prepare), and remember how Khodorkovsky ended.

      Therefore, I am confident that there will be no "sale to the side".

      Something like that..
  32. sub307
    sub307 10 June 2016 15: 17
    0
    "... the goals were set without much ornate sophistication inherent in the eastern mentality."
    Here I sit, "scratching my turnips" ... what is the difference between "special ornate" from "ornate delights"? winked
    Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems that the author himself floridly "bent" with the floridness of "written turns".
  33. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 10 June 2016 17: 56
    +1
    Quote: PKK
    Chinese people with shameless eyes don’t be foolish, give them gold and copper deposits. It’s advisable to recommend such friends to the museum. Chinese people are dissatisfied with Medvedev, let's work better with gold and copper right away.

    The lips of the Chinese are normal, as are the eyes. But our government, it seems, really wants to get to know the Ipatiev House closely. Well, just torn. This is necessary, so put on your country and your people. Looking at all these matters, you begin to understand all that inhuman cruelty with which, yesterday's peasants and workers, dealt with the ruling class. And justify ....
  34. Coffin Cross1
    Coffin Cross1 10 June 2016 22: 48
    -1
    "have you decided to sell the ore deposits of the Far East?"
    How would you not wait for such "geologists"!
    "Selected PLA motorized rifle units are conducting military exercises on the borders with Russia (translation of material from Chinese sources).
    The motorized rifle brigade of the 39th Army of the Shenyang Military District (which is stationed in the north of the country, near the border with Russia) conducted military exercises in winter conditions. "
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 13 June 2016 00: 01
      0
      Quote: Coffin Cross1
      decided to sell ore deposits in the Far East?

      - not "ore deposits of the Far East", but 13,3% of shares (shares, Karl) one deposit. Namely - shares GRK "Bystrinskoe" (develops Bystrinsky polymetallic deposit)

      Quote: Coffin Cross1
      How would you not wait for such "geologists"

      - please tell us how in your inflamed the brain is connected with a rather routine operation (sale of a block of shares) and a "visit by PLA" as geologists "(which would have been, if it happened suddenly, an emergency situation)
  35. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 11 June 2016 14: 39
    -1
    China .. China .., like that - so immediately China!


    He drew attention to a strange pattern: on all television shows devoted to modern economic policy, the former Yeltsin "democrats" are crying, about the heavy share of Crimeans under the rule of Russian despotism and the catastrophic absence of parmesan on the table of collective farmers ... so they stand shoulder to shoulder with economists glorifying the wise policies of the great Kudrin and Gref, Nabiulina and others like them.
    That is, some curse Putin-Medvedev's economic policy, while others praise this very policy ... But they stand together, on one side of the barricades.
    Absurd? I don’t think so.
    Moreover, these very economic praisers of the Yeltsin’s heritage have, and have, a number of prefixes to the title - either the presidential adviser or a member of the presidential council.
    In short - rustling on top.
    Glazyev and some other “advisers” that do not fit into this warm company have recently become one. Yes, and as a mockery to them, they immediately added “father-of-our-economic-democracy” Kudrin.
    And we have to make a disappointing conclusion: the Yeltsin’s course lives and wins.
    It's a pity!
  36. ssp27
    ssp27 14 June 2016 19: 36
    0
    For the power insulting!