Syrians like Russian "Tigers"

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Russian armored vehicles "Tigr" seen among the military equipment of the armed forces of the SAR, participating in the battles in the province of Rakka, reports Messenger of Mordovia.



“It is worth noting that the first“ Tigers ”appeared in Syria even before the arrival of Russian troops there. In August of last year, information appeared on the network that Syrian government forces noticed GAZ-233001 - unarmored versions of this car. And that is typical, despite its civilian modification, the cars had protective painting, ”reminds the author of the article Roman Katkov.

The military version of the "Tigers" appeared in the Syrian military after these cars began to arrive at the Russian base Khmeimim.

“According to the available information, the Syrians were satisfied with them, which is quite understandable: they significantly exceed all the samples of the wheeled vehicles they have, not counting, of course, the BTR-80 and the BTR-82. For example, compared with the Italian IVECO LMV M65, “Lynx” and “Tigers” are more spacious and more reliable, ”writes Katkov.

In addition, the author notes, "Lynx-based" in Syria have not yet received any standard armament, and some of the Syrian "Tigers", judging by the video from the front, are armed with 12,7-mm Kord machine-guns. "

In his opinion, "the combat use of Russian armored vehicles" Tigr "in a hot spot, in addition to direct assistance from the Syrian army, is also valuable in suggesting further ways to improve the national armored vehicles of this class."

Syrians like Russian "Tigers"
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  1. +44
    9 June 2016 13: 23
    Well, everything is better than driving Toyota pickups .....
    1. +25
      9 June 2016 14: 35
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, everything is better than driving Toyota pickups .....



      Memory-23-2. Yes
      1. +8
        9 June 2016 16: 31
        ZU-23-2. yes

        I wonder how he will get down?
        1. +13
          9 June 2016 17: 07
          the queue is fed, he flies up, and descends with a parachute
          1. +3
            10 June 2016 18: 30
            Quote: 31R-US
            the queue is fed, he flies up, and descends with a parachute

            How complicated it is for you. The line goes down. :)
            1. +1
              11 June 2016 09: 55
              It can be even simpler - it goes out of turn ... Like in a joke about a mousetrap - where are my crackers?
    2. -40
      9 June 2016 16: 37
      that's how to say it. Toyota is more maneuverable for the receptionist, the review is better and most importantly it dies less often! If only the protection of the crew ....
      1. +22
        9 June 2016 17: 05
        Quote: Thomas 1989
        Toyota is more maneuverable

        On the sand?
        Quote: Thomas 1989
        better review

        Is it like a lower machine has a better review?
        Quote: Thomas 1989
        If only the protection of the crew ....

        But this is the main indicator for military equipment!
        1. -29
          9 June 2016 20: 40
          illiterate urapatriotism ... (in the sand) and the sand is more maneuverable and pickup, and most importantly, Syria is not in sugar, and the main military operations are carried out in cities and suburbs, but in the mountains ...
          Toyota is not much lower, and through the frontal view is better
          If you look at daish tactics, then the tiger is too good a target for RPG-7.
          1. +13
            9 June 2016 21: 19
            Mdyayaya, when I was engaged in motocross, I primarily looked at the tread pattern. And the tigers have huge wheels. This is an all-terrain vehicle, a tzatzik, and not a Lexus, which is given to the blondes for their mouth work for a year. They are on the dunes oh how they do not like to eat that. bully
          2. +8
            9 June 2016 23: 02
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            illiterate urapatriotism ... (in the sand) and the sand is more maneuverable and pickup, and most importantly, Syria is not in sugar, and the main military operations are carried out in cities and suburbs, but in the mountains ...
            Toyota is not much lower, and through the frontal view is better
            If you look at daish tactics, then the tiger is too good a target for RPG-7.

            Change the flag, and straighten the sofa, otherwise you will be sausage from a prickly pillow.
          3. +4
            10 June 2016 06: 53
            Give you free rein you would at the MARKovnik in the ATS drove.
          4. +4
            10 June 2016 15: 05
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            yes in the sand more maneuverable and quick

            At the expense of maneuverability, I would argue that the silhouette of pickups is high on a bend, somersaulting right away. The tiger is more stable and the military pendant holds the slope much more reliably .. So first think before you speak, and even for protection and cross-country ability it makes no sense to compare at all ..
          5. +2
            10 June 2016 18: 32
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            Tiger is too good target for RPG-7

            I would see how you will get on a moving car from an RPG-7. Anyway.
          6. Mwg
            -2
            11 June 2016 07: 48
            Only a complete stupid person will spend RPG-7 on the conveyor. Meaning? The conveyor is the same means of delivery of manpower, not a means of attack
          7. +3
            11 June 2016 08: 38
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            Toyota is not much lower, and through the frontal view is better

            Quote: Thomas 1989
            yes in the sand more maneuverable and quick,

            This is probably why the Japanese Self-Defense Forces are armed with this:

            And no civilian pickups ...
            1. 0
              11 June 2016 13: 23
              Quote: AllXVahhaB
              Quote: Thomas 1989
              Toyota is not much lower, and through the frontal view is better

              Quote: Thomas 1989
              yes in the sand more maneuverable and quick,

              This is probably why the Japanese Self-Defense Forces are armed with this:

              And no civilian pickups ...

              So this is also Toyota (her daughter is like "Lexus" and "Subaru")
              1. 0
                11 June 2016 17: 25
                Quote: UNKNOWN
                So this is also Toyota (her daughter is like "Lexus" and "Subaru")

                As well as "Tiger" son of "Gazelle" ... But how does it contradict my words?
            2. 0
              11 June 2016 14: 44
              You can buy it by the way. In Vlad, the average price tag is about 2 lyam. laughing
              http://vladivostok.drom.ru/toyota/mega_cruiser/21861449.html
          8. +1
            11 June 2016 08: 41
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            illiterate urapatriotism ...

            Only an illiterate non-patriot can not understand that the use of civilian vehicles in hostilities is not because of their outstanding qualities, but because of hopelessness! Have you ever seen at least one decent army on civilian platforms ???
          9. +1
            11 June 2016 11: 54
            One thing can be said to "Thomas" the unbeliever ......
      2. Alf
        +4
        9 June 2016 22: 59
        Quote: Thomas 1989
        that's how to say it. Toyota is more maneuverable for the receptionist, the review is better and most importantly it dies less often!

        Yes, and rear-wheel drive is much better than full with pumping ... And two places in a millimeter cabin are better than 7 people in an armored capsule ...
        Did you understand what you said?
        1. -20
          9 June 2016 23: 07
          Yes, and rear-wheel drive is much better than full with pumping ... And two places in a millimeter cabin are better than 7 people in an armored capsule ...
          Do you understand what you said? [/ Quote]
          Toyota hilux equipped with all-wheel drive and pumping wheels, despite the fact that the Americans bought the basmach. for some reason, the infantry prefers to ride on armor in the war zone, why, the question is to the infantry. And I always understand what I'm saying and writing
          1. +3
            10 June 2016 18: 36
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            infantry prefers armored

            And where have you recently seen infantry wishing to ride on armor?
            1. +1
              10 June 2016 19: 49
              ours always ride on armor
              1. 0
                11 June 2016 08: 48
                Quote: max90.90
                ours always ride on armor

                Well, judging by the photos, they don’t go ...
            2. +4
              10 June 2016 19: 50
              here is another photo
              1. +1
                11 June 2016 08: 49
                Quote: max90.90
                here is another photo

                But here, in general, the trenches are ...
              2. 0
                10 July 2016 15: 51
                I think it makes no sense to equip the Syrian army with heavy weapons in large quantities. And it makes sense to create light infantry on civilian cars modernized for the combat mission. If they run away, it's not so bad and the loss is not the same
            3. 0
              10 June 2016 19: 50
              here is another photo
          2. +1
            11 June 2016 08: 45
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            for some reason, the infantry prefers to ride on armor in the war zone, why, the question is to the infantry.

            Still would)))
          3. +1
            11 June 2016 08: 46
            Quote: Thomas 1989
            It’s what Americans bought basmacham

            But why don't they buy such wonderful cars for themselves, but prefer the exact opposite?
            Perhaps they are cheers laughing
  2. 0
    9 June 2016 13: 23
    I wonder what fuel is running
    1. +33
      9 June 2016 13: 29
      I wonder what fuel is running

      on the sand ! belay
      (specially Arabic version, ...
      the option - "on a camel thorn" the Syrians rejected for the reason - "to collect for a long time!" ) wassat
      1. +9
        9 June 2016 13: 32
        I suspect that there is water and even sand more expensive than gasoline and diesel fuel
    2. +27
      9 June 2016 13: 36
      Quote: 24rus
      I wonder what fuel is running

      really interesting - what kind of fuel does the diesel work on ????
      1. +32
        9 June 2016 13: 42
        Quote: Pinky F.
        really interesting - what kind of fuel does the diesel work on ????

        On the liquid cap. wassat
      2. +1
        9 June 2016 13: 43
        the first tigers came with different engines and imported too
        1. +3
          9 June 2016 13: 49
          Quote: 24rus
          the first tigers came with different engines and imported too

          in fact, both the Brazilian carmine and our YaMZ - diesel engine. Something has not been heard about the gasoline version. recourse
          1. +9
            9 June 2016 14: 31
            The attack on the Tiger M Tabka.


          2. +7
            9 June 2016 14: 40
            LMV M65 "Lynx". North. Latakia.



            Southeast Holmes, today. (Russian Army support column with a BTR-82A in Southeastern Homs Countryside today (02 / 06 / 2016).
            https://twitter.com/mmagreen?lang=ru
            1. +1
              9 June 2016 17: 37
              The main thing is that this ... Serdyukovskoye was sent there from our army. Everyone will be happy.
          3. +2
            9 June 2016 14: 44
            Iveco LMV / Lynx in Syria in the Palmyra region.


          4. +7
            9 June 2016 14: 48
            Tiger M "with sappers, ibid.


            Homs BTR-80 and 2-a "Tigra M".
      3. +1
        9 June 2016 17: 09
        as an option on diesel
        1. +1
          9 June 2016 20: 55
          "Tiger M" Northern Aleppo.
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    1. +11
      9 June 2016 13: 27
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Not compare with what went, here is a completely different level.

      Promote everyone in the topic do not forget
  4. +8
    9 June 2016 13: 26
    the Syrians liked it, but of course the Basmachians didn’t, the matter is clear. But before that they delivered a cage laughing , as no words were heard about this cart.
    1. +8
      9 June 2016 13: 34
      Quote: Paul1
      , as no words were heard about this cart.

      Withdrawn from service, it was originally intended to sell them civilian, but in light of the events in Syria, Assad’s armies were transferred
      1. +1
        9 June 2016 16: 51
        It is currently standing in service with both the Army and the Internal Troops. My 2-based AP-3308 was in the company.
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    2. +4
      9 June 2016 13: 39
      The article is about "Tigers" written.
      Watch carefully for publications on the site
      http://topwar.ru/85691-rossiyskie-gruzoviki-gaz-3308-vyderzhali-ekzamen-v-sirii.
      html
      hi
    3. +4
      9 June 2016 13: 41
      wrote a year ago and about the saddle in Syria and even in the "news" showed more than once
    4. +4
      9 June 2016 19: 18
      Quote: Paul1
      somehow no words were heard about this cart.


      Bonnet modification GAZ-66 with diesel engine D-245.



      The true descendant of another legendary light army truck - GAZ-63.

      1. -3
        10 June 2016 18: 12
        gas 63 - a copy of Studebaker
        1. +1
          11 June 2016 18: 16
          Nothing in my opinion
  5. +12
    9 June 2016 13: 27
    There is no better training ground than a real war. In order, probably, and sent to experience. Not today, tomorrow it will be necessary to restore order in these machines (among others) in Central Asia.
    1. +1
      9 June 2016 13: 34
      You got ahead of me, and who does not think about Central Asia, lives one day. It's about those who have minus you. Tests, stupidly for the sake of testing- TUPO.
  6. +16
    9 June 2016 13: 31
    And I remember that there were screams that the development of a "tiger" is a sawing off and a senseless waste of money, because there is a "lynx" that is "European-style" made and never a bast shoe "tiger" will catch up with the Ivek "lynx" ...
    1. +4
      9 June 2016 16: 52
      Yes, it seemed the opposite was the case, no one except Taburetkin did not pronounce such nonsense.
  7. +2
    9 June 2016 13: 31
    The equipment will be tested in combat conditions, it is very valuable.
  8. avt
    +2
    9 June 2016 13: 34
    Well, the Arabs initially paid for it, well, the development is the truth, I don’t remember who, like the Emirates.
  9. +4
    9 June 2016 13: 34
    I still do not understand from the article whether the armed Tigers were supplied or not.
    In addition, the author notes, "Lynx-based" in Syria have not yet received any standard armament, and some of the Syrian "Tigers", judging by the video from the front, are armed with 12,7-mm Kord machine-guns. " Sense of delivery, check reservation? Or see how our Syrian friends will use them?
  10. +2
    9 June 2016 13: 54
    And I liked the tigers, and tanks, and planes, and machine guns. Only when will they pay?
    1. +3
      9 June 2016 14: 33
      The fact that there is a batch is already a payment and it is thought not the smallest. If everything is counted.
    2. +2
      9 June 2016 14: 54
      Quote: friend of animals
      And I liked the tigers, and tanks, and planes, and machine guns. Only when will they pay?

      Hmmm ..... let's never? Will it ever suit you? laughing Where did they get their currency? Only a kind word can be repaid: "nraaaavitsya". I would have driven the Tiger for free, I would also like it. winked
      1. +1
        9 June 2016 14: 58
        Quote: CRONOS
        I would have drove the Tiger for free, I would have liked it too.

        Also, as I thought ... they don’t look at the gift horse in the mouth laughing
  11. +2
    9 June 2016 13: 55
    meaning triple
    1. help
    2. sale
    3. operating experience in real conditions, which will identify and fix problems and increase sales.
    1. +2
      9 June 2016 15: 06
      Quote: yehat
      1. help

      Help is of course good, but it would be better to help with drones, DZ sets on tanks and remote control installations on the same tanks.
      Quote: yehat
      2. sale

      No, this is a gift. One of many. smile
      Quote: yehat
      3. operating experience in real conditions, which will identify and fix problems and increase sales.

      The problems in it (Tiger-M) were clear long before sending it there and generally the war in Syria. This is a heavyweight design, due to the BTR-ovsky suspension - the car turned out to be heavy, with weak armor protection, weak mine protection - only 600 grams under the wheel. What is 600 grams of TNT? a bunch of hand grenades?
      Weak thrust of the engine, in full curb weight, with fuel, weapons and people on staff. Especially uphill. The lack of air conditioning, which is in the armored shed in those parts, is worse than a hail of bullets overhead. Pay attention, the convoy stopped and the soldier got out of the car, leaving the car to ventilate with the door open. You will see the same photos in our "live" pictures and in Kazakh ones. And a bunch of little things. hi
      It is not for nothing that they create Wolves, Bears, Scorpios, Toros, Typhoon-K and many, many others. wink
      To say that the Tiger is not perfect is tantamount to saying that Chubais is not without vices. laughing
  12. +1
    9 June 2016 13: 56
    Quote: friend of animals
    And I liked the tigers, and tanks, and planes, and machine guns. Only when will they pay?

    Similarly, on a bowl and lime - cottage cheese.
    Although this is an outpost ...
  13. +3
    9 June 2016 13: 57
    Quote: Vasilyev u
    You got ahead of me, and who does not think about Central Asia, lives one day. It's about those who have minus you. Tests, stupidly for the sake of testing- TUPO.

    Klitschko would understand.
  14. +2
    9 June 2016 14: 00
    So they’ll break in in combat conditions and reveal shortcomings. And taking into account the new introductory ones, the Tigers will be collected for our army.
  15. +1
    9 June 2016 14: 06
    How I would like to myself such a "Tiger" only of course in a civilian version and without a "kenguryatnik" ... Eh. sad
    1. -4
      9 June 2016 14: 14
      and what did not please the kenguryatnik? Very useful thing
      1. +2
        9 June 2016 15: 04
        The fact that these are violations of the law - there should not be any kenguryatniks, reinforced bumpers and other things on civilian cars. How do you drive a car if you do not know the rules and laws that every car owner must know?
        1. +1
          9 June 2016 17: 20
          I completely agree with you, in our country there are a lot of crazy rules, for some reason they think that a Niva with a kangaroo will do more damage in an accident than a frame UAZ without it.
    2. +1
      9 June 2016 14: 37
      Feed torment. The technique is of course burutal, but like any man, the appetite is good. winked
    3. +5
      9 June 2016 15: 13
      Well, why do you need a huge car the size of a truck for civilian purposes? Do not turn around, do not park, but refuel regularly and a lot. I remember about 6 years ago they sold the Tiger-2 in a purely civilian version, slightly combed. He then, still for that money, stood about 5 million, with disgusting build quality.

      1. +1
        10 June 2016 01: 27
        Well, face! Managed their charismatic machine to make UAZ. The only thing like the bumper and wheels! For the design in the ban!
    4. +3
      9 June 2016 17: 23
      Quote: drunkram
      How I would like to myself such a "Tiger" only of course in a civilian version and without a "kenguryatnik" ... Eh. sad

      And so in the courtyards there is nowhere to turn from the parked equipment. And if you force everything with "Tigers" - in general, the khan will be for all lawns and bushes. By the way, can it be parked in the residential area according to the permitted curb weight?
      1. 0
        10 June 2016 01: 24
        For the village will do!
      2. 0
        10 June 2016 06: 24
        It depends on what size village you live in, if Moscow \ SPB, then it’s clear)
  16. 0
    9 June 2016 14: 15
    In the photo "Tiger" with our engine looks like (YMZ), a characteristic "hump" on the hood.
  17. +1
    9 June 2016 14: 24
    I also like him (the tiger) very much, even without a machine gun and armor. But alas, I do not
    Zhirinovsky is not a millionaire, so I’m unlikely to drive this car. What if
    seriously, then the manufacturer should think about production, for a wide
    consumer in Russia. On the "Hummers" go, on the "tigers" there are also willing, and not a little.
    1. 0
      9 June 2016 16: 25
      Zhirinovsky rides the Tiger? Probably sat in it a couple of times. Or carries chickens around the country to shoot? He loves hunting - to shoot from the window of a carriage of chickens.
      Hammer is now only Russian. Fellow members sold the license to the Chinese. What to buy a hammer or a tiger at the same price.
      1. +1
        10 June 2016 06: 25
        There's a civilian version just hell fat
  18. +5
    9 June 2016 14: 40
    Tiger Zhirinovsky
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    2. +2
      9 June 2016 15: 03
      Quote: ramzes1776
      Tiger Zhirinovsky

      Didn't Zhirinovsky give this "Tiger" to the militias in Donbass?
    3. +5
      9 June 2016 15: 05
      went through baptism of fire
      1. +2
        9 June 2016 17: 00
        Quote: Engineer
        went through baptism of fire

        Stupidly had an accident. In the process, I visited the roof.
        1. 0
          10 June 2016 01: 28
          Sorry for the bird!
  19. -2
    9 June 2016 14: 48
    yes in the desert yes without dirt, the best horse will be
  20. +2
    9 June 2016 15: 06
    Learn, horses, how you should have done your "Shame".
  21. bad
    0
    9 June 2016 15: 38
    Syrians like Russian "Tigers"
    ... and we ourselves how we like them fellowfirm of brooms does not knit! laughing
  22. 0
    9 June 2016 19: 13
    We are very happy!
  23. +1
    9 June 2016 19: 39
    Syrians like Russian "Tigers"

    As the Russian proverb says:

    They don’t look at the gifted horse.
  24. 0
    10 June 2016 02: 32
    I play a toy! Wargame Red Dagon! Lacking a normal scout! We need Ptur, PZRK with a paired salvo of ala (dzhigit) and Krupnyak, if necessary, replaced by a PC or AGS17. For good, all this on one machine. Ptauras reconnaissance planes attack planes or reconnaissance helicopters. And all this with a good reconnaissance system: ala radar, tele, nightlights, infrared, anti-sniper search with microphones. The officer of the patrol on the right of the carrier with a folding computer and control joystick. With the dawn of the landing and BC. It seems like there are already birds able to shoot down both planes and tanks to crack. Then put this! If not, then a couple Fri, a pair of MANPADS. Piece 16 will fit? In the idial to be as cheap as possible. And this system could in garage conditions be mounted in place to the comp. Also, to keep the possibility of firing a passenger standing out of the hatch with the help of joysticks. To hell with him, if it’s too difficult, they’ll do it without a hatch. Accordingly, you need a minimum hatch frontal shield bulletproof. It is possible that it was going down. Yes, at least so that only the head was visible. U with the fire fighting system of this birdhouse. So that she could immediately put out the arrow if a Molotov cocktail was thrown into the car. It’s just that sometimes it’s possible to look with a glance and not through the monitor! Especially when driving!
    In the game, the Amer Longbow scam all raspberries with a reconnaissance helicopter with 16 birds (distant and armor-piercing) roads. It can take out all the kalon. Such. Immediate need to bring down. Another Amerian moore scouted Bradley. Although it doesn’t pass through the water, wherever a little wagon gets up, it will not shed 16 ammunition in the place of extra passengers? It’s worth it and makes all with improved optics. I want our analogue the same. Well, such as BMP, armored personnel carriers, Kurgan there, boomerangs. The reconnaissance unit should be with the head and not with the RPG (I understand that in life everything will rather be the other way around). We need a portable quick-firing machine gun and not a stationary PC, especially for a forest or for a city (+ 1 to movement speed). And even in the game, I would put all the trunks on the technique at a place of 20 mm in place of 30 (well, maybe if it would only be like a minigun or a variant for this cartridge of a GSh gun paired) so that at the first sight I immediately cut off everyone without hiding. I would even agree to 7,62 but super-fast. Make turret options already! To put in front of the field and he himself in the bushes away. Shot took a changed place. Something like a controlled maxim machine gun camp! Stumbled around the perimeter and wait until the people appear in the right sector. Then they will lay it down not a pity! Glanoe himself is intact! It was made clear that there are not real characteristics in games. But sometimes the hunting technique is that of the practitioner or an analogue. And do not try to BMP5,45 with the intelligence team to pick up the nonsense of the reconnaissance. BMP1 intelligence no. BMPT (with Ags and BMP3 tower) super! In short, the terminator must be. You can also reconnaissance option! In the game for tips, there are not enough small and cheap helicopters with different directions. Delivered with double armament ptur man-portable anti-aircraft missile system gun 3-20 mm. And all this to make it cheaper and less than Mi 30. Mi 24 I do not use at all. Shot down. Sick! Just talk it out!
    1. Mih
      +1
      10 June 2016 20: 58
      Try to be more concise. You, of course +, but such a text is difficult to digest on the Internet.
  25. +1
    10 June 2016 18: 15
    Syrians need help, they are different
  26. 0
    10 June 2016 19: 33
    Quote: Thomas 1989
    for some reason, the infantry prefers to ride on armor in the war zone,

    Yes, the infantry has such a stereotype that there is more chance of surviving a shelling from above than burning inside this can
    1. 0
      11 June 2016 14: 54
      I know a number of cases when, when a land mine was detonated, those who were on the armor had the most severe wounds, and those who were sitting in the box - concussions and other "trifles"
  27. Mih
    0
    10 June 2016 20: 54
    The military version of the "Tigers" appeared in the Syrian military after these cars began to arrive at the Russian base of Hmeimim

    So I am happy for you, the Syrians. God help you. fellow
  28. 0
    11 June 2016 08: 55
    I have never seen "Tiger" with "Kord", only with "Pecheneg" or AGS ...
    1. +1
      11 June 2016 14: 56
      here is a tiger with a cordless machine gun
  29. -2
    11 June 2016 12: 40
    If they didn’t like the Tigers .... here you’ll be glad to have a free UAZ ...
    1. 0
      11 June 2016 14: 52
      I wonder how much a tiger costs?