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The fate of the second three frigates of the "admiral" series will be decided before the end of this year

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The question of building the second three frigates of the 11356 project should finally be decided until the end of 2016 g, TASS message from the head of the shipbuilding department fleet Vladimir Tryapichnikova.




“As of today, the final question (on the second three) has not been resolved. Today we received two, and in the near future, before the end of the year, we will receive the third ship, the frigate Admiral Makarov. On the second three, the issue will be finally resolved, most likely, by the end of the year ",
told reporters to Tryapichnikov.

According to him, “there are problems with the provision of the second three ships with power plants, at the same time, this issue is being solved at the Saturn engine building plant in Rybinsk.”

He noted that "this problem should be completely solved in 2017 g".

As for the “Admiral Makarov,” he “will begin the tests in July and complete them by the beginning of September,” said Tryapichnikov.

Help Agency: “The 11356 frigates of the project have a displacement of 4 thousand tons, the speed of travel is 30 knots, the autonomy of navigation is 30 days. The ships are equipped with the Caliber-NK missile system, the Shtil-1 anti-aircraft missile system and the Palash missile and artillery, the 190 mm A-100 artillery, torpedo and anti-submarine armament. Everyone is capable of carrying a helicopter on board. ”
Photos used:
Vitaly Nevar / TASS
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  1. Stalker.1977
    Stalker.1977 8 June 2016 15: 38
    0
    Oh how, well, wait and see.
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 8 June 2016 19: 40
      +3
      Quote: Stalker.1977
      Oh how, well, wait and see.

      You will see, do not bzdi, Saturn will slip in advance, and will make motors for the second three.
  2. Edvagan
    Edvagan 8 June 2016 15: 45
    +3
    I looked at the photo, and I want to say a special thank you to Shoigu for the new caps from our officers. And then they used to sew "airfields" for themselves, walked into them like mushrooms, and thought that it was beautiful, not funny. Now they look like a man. It is possible that someone will disagree with my private assessment))))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 June 2016 15: 49
      +16
      Quote: Edvagan
      . It is possible that someone will not agree with my private assessment))))

      The old cap was normal. As for airfields, mods did this to order.
      1. eugene
        eugene 9 June 2016 00: 45
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The old cap was normal. As for airfields, mods did this to order.

        and, most importantly, she was without "political statements"! Why change? Oh, yes, they are sycophants ...
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 8 June 2016 15: 50
      +2
      True, they noticed, although this eagle is superfluous, it looks overloaded and is not entirely appropriate. Anchors would be enough
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      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 8 June 2016 16: 11
        +8
        Quote: sisa29
        superfluous eagle, looks overloaded .. Anchors would be enough
        But what if we have a national emblem - a two-headed bird? An asterisk, as on old cockades, would be much prettier. They would have left her without a sickle with a hammer (since Soviet symbols are so abhorrent to those who hold power), and this is the end.

        But in fact: maybe there is hope that before 2017 the gas turbines will not be produced in Rybinsk, but they will decide something with Zaporozhye?
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 8 June 2016 16: 30
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple

          But in fact: maybe there is hope that before 2017 the gas turbines will not be produced in Rybinsk, but they will decide something with Zaporozhye?

          Yes, not Zaporozhye produces these turbines, but Nikolaevskaya "Zorya". If there is anything left there?
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 8 June 2016 16: 54
            -1
            Quote: Amurets
            Yes, not Zaporozhye produces these turbines, but Nikolaevskaya "Zorya". If there is anything left there?
            Guilty, reported. repeat I was just talking with my niece from Zaporozhye at that moment - here I wrote mechanically. fool Yes, Zorya-Mashproekt, exactly. The capacities remained there, of course. And what about their orders today - I don't know.
        2. sisa29
          sisa29 8 June 2016 16: 48
          +1
          I am not against the coat of arms; I am against piling up two cockades at the same time, it would be possible to unite something more elegantly and not sculpt two one on top of the other
        3. eugene
          eugene 9 June 2016 00: 38
          -1
          By Zaporozhye .... probably. Political determination is lacking. But enough ECONOMIC prudence, at the expense of taxpayers.
      3. samoletil18
        samoletil18 8 June 2016 21: 56
        +1
        Airfields are kokoshniki, i.e. not according to the charter. Normal caps were factory-made. We, the soldiers, distinguished junior officers in wagons of thieves from honest servants.
    3. Warhead-xnumx
      Warhead-xnumx 8 June 2016 17: 40
      +6
      Quote: Edvagan
      Now they look like a man. It is possible that someone will not agree with my private assessment))))

      Which is masculine? These are disgusting pies, such were worn only by individual individuals. Everyone sewed custom-made caps as in the photo above (5 cm rise and 6 cm behind), these were ideal caps.
    4. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 8 June 2016 22: 41
      +3
      Quote: Edvagan
      I looked at the photo, and I want to say a special thank you to Shoigu for the new caps from our officers. And then they used to sew "airfields" for themselves, walked into them like mushrooms, and thought that it was beautiful, not funny. Now they look like a man. It is possible that someone will disagree with my private assessment))))

      The old man, caps is the tenth thing, the main thing is that the Saturnites from Rybinsk shouldn’t let us down, and make the engine reliable and in a short time, and then at least caps, at least visors, at least three caps, but three frigates should be completed and entered into service.
    5. eugene
      eugene 9 June 2016 00: 33
      -1
      The cap, apparently, is the most important weapon of the Navy. And then why about this SUCH serious statements. soldier
  3. Kaetani
    Kaetani 8 June 2016 15: 47
    +1
    Yes, they will order one hundred percent. Ships are needed. And there are not many options ....
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 8 June 2016 16: 52
      +4
      In the sense of order? The second three have long been ordered, even Kornilov is slowly being built, although there was no official bookmark. The question is whether these ships will be given to us, or, for example, they will be sold to the Indians.
      Considering the "all-over" position of the Black Sea Fleet, I would like all six frigates to sail under the St. Andrew's Flag request
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 8 June 2016 17: 15
        +2
        Quote: Wiruz
        The question is whether these ships will be given to us, or, for example, they will be sold to the Indians.


        Hindus want them at the price of metal. I don’t think they will.
  4. vanavatny
    vanavatny 8 June 2016 15: 47
    -1
    where is wiruz? his speech about these frigates is deeply imbued with pain laughing
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 8 June 2016 16: 36
      +3
      In Romania, as it turned out laughing
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny 8 June 2016 18: 22
        +1
        but about Pavlodar lied laughing ambush on Bestuzhev for five days perplexed request
  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs 8 June 2016 16: 05
    +7
    On the previous topic, about the boat. The ministry, after pausing, reported:

    The Russian military department is surprised that it took the joint efforts of the British Navy and NATO allies to find the boat at low speed on the surface, accompanied by a tugboat, "the report says.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160608/1444529027.html#ixzz4AzbiKe00
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 8 June 2016 16: 26
      0
      Quote: sir_obs

      The Russian military department is surprised that it took the joint efforts of the British Navy and NATO allies to find the boat at low speed on the surface, accompanied by a tugboat, "the report says.

      Well, it was not for nothing that they found on the submarine along the ripped bottoms of ships, as with the aircraft carrier "Coral SI." the flagship, commander of NATO anti-submarine exercises, for the transfer to the hospital of a seriously ill sailor. The boat was not found either before surfacing or after submersion. Here are the "roaring cows" of the Soviet Navy.
  6. gg.na
    gg.na 8 June 2016 16: 11
    +2
    Normal ships of the 2nd rank. They have everything that they need for this class of ships! They are sufficiently maneuverable and their driving performance is not even bad! Such ships are needed for the fleet!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 8 June 2016 16: 46
      -3
      Maybe, in your opinion, BDK pr.11711 (those that are "Gren") are also good landing ships? Also have everything you need for their class?
  7. Wiruz
    Wiruz 8 June 2016 16: 41
    +3
    Again, our admirals are confused in the testimony. request
    After all, there was information, they say, a hole from a bubble to the Indians, and not frigates. Still, it seems, the director of Yantar gave an interview, they say, "we will build the hulls, we will take them out of the boathouse and we will wait for the engines, and we will load the vacated slipways with new orders" what
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 8 June 2016 16: 56
      +1
      Well, the question is in the engines, and not in the admiral’s Wishlist or someone else there. There will be engines - there will be ships for our Navy! It’s not possible to send them under sails, or as one local expert suggested using floating batteries fellow laughing
  8. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 8 June 2016 17: 47
    +2
    Eh, such an excellent series was planned, a full-fledged brigade of the same type of ships, such a rarity in modern times. Slightly missing. It is surprising that our other three cars are not strictly demanding, all the money has been paid, everything is ready, but for some reason no movement is visible. Are they embarrassed to disturb the "partners"?
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 8 June 2016 19: 17
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      It is surprising that our people do not strictly demand the other three cars

      What's the point? In Ukraine, the United States.
      1. kara61
        kara61 12 June 2016 08: 33
        0
        The money for all SU kits was paid in advance. And neither turbines nor money. And this is tens of millions of dollars. The same situation is with aircraft engines, titanium and uranium.
  9. 23424636
    23424636 8 June 2016 18: 24
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    you need to negotiate with Groysman, and give more in cash. If they are digging loot a Negro, then you can still get in touch with the Jews in power, but for them, cash is the most expensive. If the engines are produced. All the same, they are paid and in theory should somehow exist in the cycle.
  10. vovandm
    vovandm 8 June 2016 19: 16
    +2
    Tonight, "Admiral Grigorovich" passed the Bosphorus and went into the Black Sea!
  11. siemens7774
    siemens7774 8 June 2016 19: 37
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    Pr-11356 SKR
  12. lopvlad
    lopvlad 8 June 2016 20: 12
    +1
    He noted that "this problem should be completely solved in 2017 g".

    well, so what’s the matter. The company may well finish building and the fleet to receive the three remaining ships by 2020. But if these ships are sold to the Indians, then we will receive new ones for the fleet on the Black Sea not earlier than 2025.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 9 June 2016 00: 14
      +2
      The fact is that not everything is so simple. in 2017, a test bench will be completed and the first engines for the fleet will be able to be delivered to the customer no earlier than 18, and they are needed not only 11356 and 22350, and the latter need 2 times less ... the truth is that it’s also not clear to them with marching diesels ..
      1. kara61
        kara61 12 June 2016 08: 34
        0
        12 boats for the FSB also without SU-Mann refused to supply.
  13. egor1712
    egor1712 8 June 2016 20: 52
    0
    it is necessary to do a series before.
  14. samoletil18
    samoletil18 8 June 2016 22: 02
    0
    Fun what Will Rybinsk do it? Or Nikolaev top to their native harbor?
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 8 June 2016 22: 09
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      Quote: samoletil18
      Amusing Rybinsk will do?

      How fun wink
      Quote: samoletil18
      Or Nikolaev top to their native harbor?

      Nikolaev would be healthy to return, but uniting would be healthier
  15. eugene
    eugene 9 June 2016 00: 29
    0
    "The newest minesweeper Georgy Kurbatov under construction burned down in Russia"
    http://warfiles.ru/show-120151-v-rossii-sgorel-stroyaschiysya-noveyshiy-tralschi
    k-georgiy-kurbatov.html

    Something became wrecking, smelling, do not you find?
  16. eugene
    eugene 9 June 2016 00: 42
    0
    "Aerodromes" were sewn in our Air Force. But, there they were not only wide, but also curved ... Like the bow of the deck of our aircraft-carrying cruiser. THOSE. with a "jump" to the front of the "airfield". winked