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American aircraft carriers on duty

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The number of aircraft carriers at the same time on duty, the United States brought up to six. This has not been noted since 2012. But the US Navy is not going to stop what has been achieved: it is planned to connect one more to the six aircraft carriers: "George Bush". Experts do not think that the Americans decided to seriously threaten the Russians or the Chinese.




The source of information is the resource "Defense News", citing a representative of the US Navy. Now the US fleet has four aircraft carrier strike groups deployed, and two ships are engaged in private tasks, said "Lenta.ru".

The Ronald Reagan group came out of Yokosuki (Japan), the Dwight Eisenhower group is located off the east coast of the United States, the “Harry Truman” group is plowing open spaces in the eastern Mediterranean, and the John Stennis is in the South China Sea. The aircraft carriers Carl Vinson and George Washington are now performing training tasks, respectively, off the west and east coast of the United States.

In addition, the seventh aircraft carrier, the “George Bush”, will be launched in June.

The command of the US Navy says that the decision to withdraw so many aircraft carriers is not a response to a crisis. According to the military, routine combat training programs are being carried out, a global deployment is being worked out. And only about Stennis in the South China Sea, it is sparingly noted that his presence in the region is connected with the tasks of deterring China, which is in conflict over disputed island territories.

How powerful are these carrier groups?

In March, 2016, expert Sergey Ishchenko, on the website "Free Press" cited a couple of opinions voiced by the American experts on the relevant issue.

In an article published in The National Interest magazine, its author, senior researcher at one of the research centers, Harry Kazianis, noted: “States possessing technology, especially such great powers like China and Russia, are developing long-range missile systems that can deliver massive strikes from multiple points. Like weapon with accurate use by a highly skilled crew in conjunction with target detection tools in the open ocean, can turn American supercarriers into graves worth billions of dollars for thousands of American sailors. ”

The aforementioned Harry is not alone in such an opinion. In 2015, in the same “The National Interest”, the director of the strategy and defense evaluation program at the Center for New American Security, Captain First Rank Retired Jerry Hendrix, spoke on the same topic. In his opinion, astounding sums allocated for the construction of a series of new ships of the CVN-78 type “Gerald R. Ford” are simply thrown to the wind. After all, the "golden age" of US aircraft carriers ended exactly at the moment when Russia and China put on duty long-range coastal missile systems.

What do Russian experts think today about the current US carrier bravado?

“During Soviet times, the Americans sent all the 11 aircraft carrier groups that they had on combat duty, but it didn’t deliver much trouble to the Soviet command,” he said in an interview "Free Press" former chief of the Black Sea Coastal Forces and Marines fleet Navy of the USSR and Russia (1986-1995) Major General Vladimir Romanenko. - It’s just that the number of Soviet submarines monitoring the movements of Americans in the ocean increased during such periods. True, now we do not have 170 nuclear submarines, as in Soviet times. But, I think, the current submarine fleet will be enough for seven American aircraft carriers. "

As for the power of these carrier groups, the expert believes: yes, this is “serious power”. He recalled that aircraft carriers "never act alone": the head ship is accompanied by one or two submarines, as well as six or eight escort ships. Plus the wing based on the aircraft carrier. And such a group can create tension anywhere in the oceans. However, “one or even two carrier groupings cannot create a threat to the geopolitical level. Yes, the United States will increase strikes against ISIS and thereby demonstrate the power of the American flag, and will increase tensions in the South China Sea, but the global balance of power will not change. ”

Activation of the carrier fleet, according to the expert, is associated with the upcoming presidential elections in the United States, namely, with an attempt to strengthen the position of the Democratic Party. Sending aircraft carriers on duty allows Obama to focus the attention of Americans on the current moment, and not on past political blunders.

Leading expert at the Center for Military-Political Research at MGIMO, Doctor of Political Sciences Mikhail Alexandrov told JV that US aircraft carrier groups would not be able to approach the coast of Russia on a deck range aviation.

“Thus, the entrance to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is cut off by the islands of the Kuril Ridge and Sakhalin Island, where we have coastal defense systems. In the North Sea, fighting on aircraft carriers is difficult because of strong unrest, plus there we have the most fortified line and the most powerful Russian fleet is based.

And in the conditions of armed conflict, the Americans never send aircraft carriers to the Baltic and Mediterranean Seas. In such small areas, any aircraft carrier will feel like an elephant in a china shop, and will be quickly sunk ”.


Thus, we add, experts link the actions of the US Navy with the election campaign. At the expense of the theses about the “Russian threat” B.H. Obama, who sent the ships to the “planned combat training programs”, hopes to raise the low rating of the native Democratic Party at least a little bit and clear the way for his alleged counterpart, Hillary Clinton, who has a very strong Republican rival. Hardly Commander Obama has planned to attack Putin in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

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  1. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 9 June 2016 06: 33
    0
    So that they will melt everything! Tired of it! Melted!
    1. The black
      The black 9 June 2016 06: 38
      +9
      Big ships on a big dashboard laughing
      1. Altona
        Altona 9 June 2016 14: 37
        +1
        Quote: Black
        Big ships on a big dashboard

        ----------------------
        Large ships on duty are big expenses for the state. For the United States, this is also a big strain on money. Let the money be these powerful squadrons.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 10 June 2016 01: 14
          +2
          Quote: Altona
          Large ships on duty are big expenses for the state.

          Money is what Americans look at last in such cases. They are holding Europe for mudia. And if you don’t have enough money, they’ll print it, and labor and commodity support will be thrown off at Eurovassals, as usual.
    2. Finches
      Finches 9 June 2016 07: 07
      +17
      For the Americans, the use of aircraft carrier strike groups is based on the principle of "fleet against coast". For its implementation, the aircraft carrier strike group has four squadrons of attack aircraft on an aircraft carrier and a large number of cruise missiles on escort ships. Such an operational formation of warships is capable of conducting combat operations for about 14 days without replenishing supplies, having the ability to defeat surface ships to a depth of 900-950 km, and on coastal targets - 1500-1600 km, as for the security of the AUG, it is extremely effective, reveals the enemy at distances up to 1000 km. In our army, the fight against this monster is assigned to the strike groups of submarines and surface cruisers with anti-ship missiles, naval missile-carrying aircraft and long-range aviation of the Aerospace Forces. For effective fire engagement, these forces must be used only in interaction! It is not so easy to achieve such interaction!
      I wrote so briefly that all this is quite serious, and besides, the Americans have worked out the tactics and strategy of using aircraft carrier groups in the conflicts of the Persian Gulf and operations against Yugoslavia! For the countries of the so-called "third world" - this is 100% killer, but we do not need to relax either - our fleet, unfortunately, is far from Soviet, and even though we have effective anti-ship missile systems "Granit" and "Vulkan", appeared "Calibers", but nevertheless - you need to understand that a modern aircraft carrier is an extremely tenacious tub! It can be flooded only by a direct hit of a tactical nuclear charge, but the calculation shows that if a nuclear charge with a capacity of up to 50 kilotons is detonated at close range, it no longer guarantees it drowning. However, he will still be able to perform a number of functions, while remaining the control center of the group!
      And you also need to understand and answer the question - why does NATO strengthen the ground grouping of its troops along our land borders and surround our coast along its entire perimeter with its strike groups ...? Why?
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      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 June 2016 08: 29
        +14
        that we allow the detonation of a nuclear charge with a power of up to 50 kilotons close, no longer guarantees its sinking.

        Drowning is not necessary. It is enough to damage the flight deck and disable the radar and antenna posts. With what charge 50 kilotons will cope with a bang. Even if he disables the Avik for some time, it will be enough to fly up the main strike group.

        Indeed, all these aircraft carrier groups are designed for strike functions against the coast. With one exception, they never come to the coast, knowing that there are coastal missile systems. And this 1000 km, as you called "autopsies" about nothing. Only hammer with tomahawks, the combat radius of F / A-18 is only 700-800 km. Not much, when MIGs and SAMs are waiting for them on the shore.
        1. Finches
          Finches 9 June 2016 09: 05
          +3
          Not so simple! Against an attack from air weapons, submarine and surface ships, aircraft carrier groups create a deep echeloned defense with a depth of 300 - 600 km. For this, everything around is zoned - close, middle, and distant air defense zones are created! In the far zone, an AWACS aircraft operates and fighters constantly patrol. in the middle, helicopters and short-range aircraft are connected, then the near zone consists of its own covering forces. I would like to add that the reconnaissance satellite and the communications satellite supervise the group from space ..., and the control of this whole air defense armada is carried out using a modern combat information control systems "Aegis". To this I will add that the aircraft carrier itself is covered by at least one URO cruiser (guided missile weapons hi ) like "Ticonderoga"!
          It is clear that it is possible and necessary to drown, but it is so simple to overcome such a layered, high-tech protection, even in theory!
          1. Oskar1965
            Oskar1965 9 June 2016 16: 21
            +1
            Do they never sleep or do they have no holidays? :)
            1. Finches
              Finches 9 June 2016 20: 29
              0
              Nobody has canceled the human sloppiness! Here you are right! laughing
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 10 June 2016 07: 57
            0
            May our sovereign not sit and watch who will win, our shore or their AUG! In case of an attack, and a bad deal for our state, in our doctrine it is written in black and white what to do!
          3. Konstantin Yu
            Konstantin Yu 10 June 2016 10: 29
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            It is clear that it is possible and necessary to drown, but it is so simple to overcome such a layered, high-tech protection, even in theory!

            There is such a theory and it was read to us in due time ... now the technique is different and people.
            God forbid that it comes to practice
        2. silver_roman
          silver_roman 9 June 2016 16: 38
          +1
          Quote: Wedmak
          No need to heat

          absolutely right. and if this charge also dodges at an altitude of about 100 meters, then the whole AUG will be difficult. They will stay afloat, but these will be pieces of radioactive metal with meat filling inside. Electronics is by and large a cover. Even if the most important systems are shielded from EMP, then the AUG will lose most of its functions.
          Those and charges in 50 Kt are usually not so common. It seems like usually warheads in the amount of 350 ct. 50 refers to TNW probably. Although I could be wrong.
          1. Come on
            Come on 10 June 2016 13: 41
            +1
            Where do you think EMR is stronger and more dangerous for electronics, from lightning strikes, in millions of amperes, or from an explosion of nuclear weapons? In my opinion, the consequences of a nuclear explosion, such as electromagnetic radiation for electronics, greatly exaggerate, and the military-industrial complex of a country like the United States is likely to be aware of the effects of electromagnetic radiation and to ensure that there is nothing for electronics.
      3. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 9 June 2016 09: 24
        +8
        Not in vain, ours decided to advance to Matua. If the runway is restored there, or even a new airfield will be equipped, but not with one runway and provided with the appropriate covering technology! There, the Japanese heated their strip with the help of a geothermal station, a natural "reactor". Not sickly, stationary though, the aircraft carrier would have turned out. The entire region would be covered.
      4. ruAlex
        ruAlex 9 June 2016 09: 32
        0
        I think that the street principle of counteraction against hooligans can work here, the skidded skating rink to the most arrogant others fled. That is, the probability of the recall of the rest of the group in case of loss of at least one connection is high. Again, everything will depend on the specific situation. IMHO.
        1. cap
          cap 9 June 2016 10: 06
          0
          Quote: ruAlex
          I think that the street principle of counteraction against hooligans can work here, the skidded skating rink to the most arrogant others fled. That is, the probability of the recall of the rest of the group in case of loss of at least one connection is high. Again, everything will depend on the specific situation. IMHO.


          + You know, my inner voice tells me that it will be so. hi
        2. Come on
          Come on 10 June 2016 13: 43
          +1
          Quote: ruAlex
          I think that the street principle of counteraction against hooligans can work here, the skidded skating rink to the most arrogant others fled. That is, the probability of the recall of the rest of the group in case of loss of at least one connection is high.


          And who is the most arrogant, is not an aircraft carrier? Just business, sink the aircraft carrier ..
      5. gg.na
        gg.na 9 June 2016 10: 15
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        And you also need to understand and answer the question - why does NATO strengthen the ground grouping of its troops along our land borders and surround our coast along its entire perimeter with its strike groups ...? Why?

        Well, why is it ...? Surely for bread wassat ! Just kidding of course! You wrote everything correctly about the capabilities of the aircraft carriers and the fact that they are quite tenacious, it is extremely important to know the capabilities and strength of the enemy!
        For effective fire destruction, you need to use these forces only in cooperation! To achieve such interaction is not so simple!
        And here, too, they wrote correctly. Our Navy needs to conduct more frequent exercises to refine such interaction so that at the right moment they can do it with the necessary effect!
      6. fif21
        fif21 9 June 2016 12: 47
        0
        Quote: Finches
        It is clear that it is possible and necessary to drown, but it is so simple to overcome such a layered, high-tech protection, even in theory!
        Molodez Zyablintsev! Let them think that they are 1000% protected laughing
      7. gladcu2
        gladcu2 9 June 2016 14: 25
        +2
        Zyablintsev

        The answer is why?

        History.

        German troops were brought to the attack line a week before June 22. Only in a week. This suggests that the decision to start a war can be implemented in one week.

        Well, it’s necessary to take into account the following just because money for troop movement is not thrown.
        1. Oskar1965
          Oskar1965 9 June 2016 16: 33
          +3
          Totally agree with you. They don't even need a large contingent of troops on our border. According to the report of Colonel-General L. Ivashov (a person and officer I respect) "5000 missiles are aimed at our points of deployment of troops and military facilities !!!" After such a blow, there will be no one to fight, well, except for the partisans and patriotic people, and even those will (if any) be formed with a great delay. Also L. Ivashov openly stated that we have nothing to oppose against NATO forces except nuclear weapons.
      8. dionis
        dionis 9 June 2016 14: 39
        +1
        Right! Why?) ... And then to better prepare for the upcoming attack on Russia. I hope their heads of the mind have enough to not do this.
      9. GSH-18
        GSH-18 10 June 2016 00: 51
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        For the Americans, the use of aircraft carrier strike groups is based on the principle of "fleet against coast"

        This concept is applied in the absence of enemy coastal naval aviation. Otherwise, the ACG is at a distance of the enemy naval aviation and is blocking its fleet off the coast.
        Quote: Finches
        And you also need to understand and answer the question - why does NATO strengthen the ground grouping of its troops along our land borders and surround our coast along its entire perimeter with its strike groups ...? Why?

        This is the question! But I don't think they want to start another blitz krieg with Russia. They lost time and we are now more or less ready for such surprises.
        But we can’t relax. They will continue to circle, place and howl in their media about northern Mordor and Evil Putin. Sometimes I find myself thinking that the USSR was a re-education, now WE are on the line. Only there is a good saying: who is warned is armed! yes
      10. igorka357
        igorka357 10 June 2016 07: 52
        0
        Oh, how scary .. crying ! It’s clear that the AUG is not khukh-mukhra! But .. Air defense in the USSR was one of the strongest on the planet, but Rust proved that for every cunning ass, there is a bolt with a very cunning thread! And as history shows, we Russians lack a trick and savvy, never suffered, we will find and how to sink their aircraft carriers!
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 9 June 2016 07: 27
      +8
      It seems that over the past half century, such exercises have coincided with the US presidential elections. It is possible that in this way the Pentagon is cleaning up its budget and hiding the ends that are "unsightly" for the US public. It would be nice to make such an analysis.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 06: 37
    +6
    if Russia were an island the size of Sri Lanka, I would be scared ...
  3. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 9 June 2016 06: 40
    +5
    That's right! The Baltic is controlled by Iskander, the Black Sea is controlled by Bastion, and US aircraft carriers do not float dangerously.
  4. Dmitry X
    Dmitry X 9 June 2016 06: 44
    +9
    And what on the Internet there are few photos of American aircraft carriers?
    1. Professor
      Professor 9 June 2016 07: 02
      +4
      Quote: Dmitry X
      And what on the Internet there are few photos of American aircraft carriers?

      French is also beautiful good
      1. An60
        An60 9 June 2016 09: 02
        +1
        And the Chinese do not, what does the French have to do with it ???
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 June 2016 09: 26
          +7
          Quote: An60
          And the Chinese do not, what does the French have to do with it ???

          Here I am about that. An article about American aircraft carriers, and in the photo in an article by Charles De Gaulle. request
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      3. TOZ-34
        TOZ-34 9 June 2016 10: 00
        0
        He is very beautiful when he stands in his port and defends his country. When he shies away from foreign shores, I threaten a foreign country, he is beautiful, like a decoration of the bottom landscape and a house for marine inhabitants.
      4. fif21
        fif21 9 June 2016 13: 08
        0
        Quote: Professor
        French is also beautiful

        "Quilted jackets" do not appreciate beauty lol They evaluate it - their own or someone else's. To a foreign ship a big torpedo wassat
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    2. tomket
      tomket 9 June 2016 10: 54
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry X
      And what on the Internet there are few photos of American aircraft carriers?

      The photographs of American aircraft carriers imposed sanctions))))
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 9 June 2016 06: 49
    +1
    Yeah, just aired out, stalls in the stalls conics.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 9 June 2016 06: 56
      -1
      Yes, the sailors probably got excited.
  6. Simpsonian
    Simpsonian 9 June 2016 06: 50
    +6
    French Rafale in the photo ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 08: 00
      +5
      Quote: Simpsonian
      French Rafale in the photo ...

      Rafale riding de Goal ...
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 9 June 2016 06: 56
    +1
    Apparently getting ready to find a way out into the Belorussian Sea ...
  8. sa-ag
    sa-ag 9 June 2016 07: 02
    -1
    The main goal for the Americans is China
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 9 June 2016 07: 11
      0
      Russia, with China it will then be easier for them ...
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      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 9 June 2016 07: 13
        +3
        Quote: Simpsonian
        Russia, with China it will then be easier for them ...

        No, it was China, it was he who "had the audacity" to become the first economy in the world, not the Russian Federation, and then this story with the disputed islands, according to the Americans, China threatens international shipping, and this is money again, what threat does the Russian Federation pose?
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 9 June 2016 15: 03
          +3
          intellectually dominant territorially racial, the largest state in the world + half of the ISS is the Russian Federation (in fact, more), half is "all the rest"
        2. silver_roman
          silver_roman 9 June 2016 16: 42
          +2
          You are mistaken. China over the decades of occupation has lost its mentality, a kind of flawed (passive) behavior has developed.
          The Russian Federation is precisely an ideological problem. The Americans, or rather the elites who stand at the head of the table, do not care deeply for places in the economy.
          In addition, all these ratings, GDP, etc. not worth a dime, because they write completely by vegetable agencies.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 9 June 2016 16: 48
            -1
            Quote: silver_roman
            The Russian Federation is precisely an ideological problem

            There is no ideology other than the ideology of money, the declared liberal model places the economic interest of the individual above all else, and at the same time, society is socially stratified and fragmented, because when money comes between people, person-person friend, friend and wolf :-)
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 9 June 2016 17: 37
              0
              Yes, right now there is no such thing as a strategy, a tactic is somehow drawn with difficulty.
              But socialism, and as the final stage - communism was wildly scary for them, because really was a working alternative.
              ps.sminus is not mine!
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 June 2016 07: 12
    0
    and two ships are busy performing private tasks, notes “Lenta.ru”.

    Yeah, bananas are driving their main bubuin! laughing
  10. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 9 June 2016 07: 12
    +6
    TASS report: "The 6th US fleet disappeared without a trace in the Pacific Ocean. There are no losses on our side."
    fellow
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 08: 34
      0
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      TASS report: "The 6th US fleet disappeared without a trace in the Pacific Ocean. There are no losses on our side."
      fellow

      and yesterday morning, (seriously) again collided \ F-16 over the state of "Georgia" ... the pilots are alive. every week ... something became frequent.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 9 June 2016 16: 45
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        yesterday morning, (seriously) again faced \ F-16 over the state of "georgia"

        It is sad that our pilots die more often, and they very often survive.
        So today, the sad news about the deceased Vityaz recourse .
        Again he drove the car away from the houses.
        Do not judge strictly, but why do they fly over houses? It seems that the Russian Federation is not the size of Liechtenstein, there is where to fly, so that in which case you can safely eject.
  11. siberalt
    siberalt 9 June 2016 07: 30
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    Apparently getting ready to find a way out into the Belorussian Sea ...


    You just don’t talk about it! belay “It cannot be that there is no oil or gas in Belarus,” he said, and instructed the specialists to urgently start searching for the natural resources he had designated. And then it can force the sea to search. laughing
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 June 2016 07: 34
      -1
      Psaki .. I also talked about this ..
  12. 1536
    1536 9 June 2016 07: 34
    0
    Through the next president, the US will be exactly Chinese. And China for America will no longer be the enemy. Only Russia will be left face to face with all aircraft carrier formations and millions of Chinese military. What then? Maybe we should start a conversation with the aggressor? No one is talking about a new surrender of our positions, but the alignment is clearly not in our favor.
  13. varov14
    varov14 9 June 2016 07: 36
    +3
    Well, at the moment they came out clearly not against us, the territory is not that. Now they are pushing and forcing the vassals to the Pacific and Atlantic partnership. And Russia already owns 50% or even more, they are the resources we all have, and the right-wing class is 100%. And they organize exercises at our borders to excite the remaining 50% and arrange a little animal between us.
    1. Oskar1965
      Oskar1965 9 June 2016 17: 08
      +4
      "I'll tell you one clever thing, but don't be offended." You have to study the history of the wars waged by Russia and the USSR in order to understand that we are Russians for them (USA, ENGLAND) and indeed for the whole of Europe like a bone in the throat. It was our country in all years that did not allow these tycoons, greedy for gold, money and blood, to commit atrocities. Their task is to destroy the US as a nation and they do not care what kind of feudal, socialist or capitalist system we have in our country. My God, whoever we didn’t save! Even America was saved in 1863 from being captured by England, during the war between the southerners and the northerners. They are ready to die, but die with us, although they will fight to the last NATO ally, weakening our forces as much as possible (remember the delay with the opening of the second front right up to 1944). The scenario of the wars of the West against us is always the same, first weakening the economy or take advantage of the weakness of the country's economy with the help of traitors in the government, pulling into an economic blockade and .. forceful invasion as the final stage. But! They always miss one very important detail in Russian people and therefore always lose. And about the fact that we are 50% theirs .. On June 22, 1941, when our cities were already bombed, loaded trains with bread, coal and many other cargoes continued to leave for Germany from the junction stations.
  14. ksn63
    ksn63 9 June 2016 07: 51
    0
    Quote: Finches
    And you also need to understand and answer the question - why does NATO strengthen the ground grouping of its troops along our land borders and surround our coast along its entire perimeter with its strike groups ...? Why?

    They want Russian blood. Only at the present time it will turn out to them that they will slurp their own. It has already been written that Skif missiles have been installed somewhere. If this is true, the Americans will never start a war, and if they also launch the Barguzin, then fear will definitely stop it. We will burn, but they will get the USA in the nuclear winter. Very few will survive, and those that survive will envy the dead.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 June 2016 08: 42
      +1
      It has already been written that Skif missiles have been installed somewhere.

      It’s written with a pitchfork on water. This is still a level of not even rumors, but fantasies. What is closer to reality is the modernization of Admiral Nakhimov:
      The main acquisition will be the latest universal vertical launchers ZS-14. In the same launch containers it will be possible to install 3M55 Onyx, 3K14 Caliber missiles and 3K22 hypersonic anti-ship missiles "Zircon-S" (rocket 3M-22), which will become the main weapon.

      And Peter the Great will follow him. And not the fact that they are not sawing the ground version of Zircon.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 9 June 2016 10: 31
        0
        yeah, just because of the reduction in the defense industry, the completion of work on Nakhimov was postponed to 2020 from 2018. "There is no money, but you hold on there" (Medvedev) as they say
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 9 June 2016 16: 50
          0
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          completion of work on Nakhimov, postponed to 2020 from 2018

          Kapets ... sorry. Although not surprising. I don’t even remember what was given on time from the head office.
          Serial and even often late.
          And this is generally an individual project.
  15. lexa-xa
    lexa-xa 9 June 2016 08: 20
    0
    Quote: Finches
    For the Americans, the use of aircraft carrier strike groups is based on the principle of "fleet against coast". But nevertheless, you need to understand that a modern aircraft carrier is an extremely tenacious vessel! It can only be flooded with a direct hit from a tactical nuclear charge, but the calculation shows that it is permissible to detonate a nuclear a charge with a capacity of up to 50 kilotons near, no longer guarantees its sinking. However, he will still be able to perform a number of functions, while remaining the control center of the group!

    But why drown him ?, to bury the deck, and he’s almost a corpse. And when he waddles home, heal the wounds at the passage and finish him off.
  16. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 9 June 2016 08: 45
    0
    Aircraft carrier - a gadget zelo obsolete. With the advent of reliable serial hypersonic missiles and deep-sea autonomous torpedoes, all these pans will be only huge targets that you can’t miss even if you wish.
    Khan of America! Anyway! Striped dodgers have no chance.
  17. 31rus2
    31rus2 9 June 2016 08: 54
    -3
    respected cheers-patriotism again, it means that in the USSR with a strong fleet, aviation recognized the danger of aircraft carriers, and in Russia they solved this problem without nuclear weapons? Ksta and Super Hornet (432 units have a combat radius of almost 1100 km)
  18. Lumumba
    Lumumba 9 June 2016 09: 45
    +3
    Eh, I should see how this trough goes to the bottom from the Onyx salvo.

    Quote: 31rus2
    have a combat radius of almost 1100km


    They forgot to add "with suspended fuel tanks", that is, the number of missile and bomb weapons will be incomplete. Without them - 726 kilometers, and then, upon departure "from the coast". Who will let them come to the shore?

    Carriers are very dangerous for the Afro-Arab Papuans, who usually settle along the seas. And in the case of Russia, take a map and draw a line 726 kilometers from the coast. And look what will be there. Of course, except for the Arctic Ocean, the aircraft carrier is not at all an icebreaker.
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 9 June 2016 16: 52
      0
      There is a whole story with the aircraft of the aircraft carrier. There was an excellent article recently, which described the attack process on 1164 "Moscow". In short, the first aircraft will have to fly with a PTB and (!!!) one Harpoon anti-ship missile. One .... the mass of the warhead is in the region of 200kg. Subsonic speed. probably sailors with a Kalash will be able to shoot down. I'm kidding, of course.
  19. cap
    cap 9 June 2016 09: 57
    +1
    The command of the US Navy says that the decision to withdraw so many aircraft carriers is not a response to a crisis. According to the military, routine combat training programs are being carried out, a global deployment is being worked out. And only about Stennis in the South China Sea, it is sparingly noted that his presence in the region is connected with the tasks of deterring China, which is in conflict over disputed island territories.

    We decided to play with muscles. We will start calls to the ports under our control.
    We must show how cool they are.
    After the Syrian breakdowns, the necessary solution, otherwise, how can we explain that the US President is talking about Putin in the United States.
    We also have something to show. In terms of propaganda.
  20. sailor52
    sailor52 9 June 2016 10: 09
    +2
    ... Admiral Bret Batchelder said that the movement of the ship from the Persian Gulf through the Suez Canal is intended to demonstrate to the NATO allies the US commitment to maintaining the balance of naval forces in the Mediterranean.
    “This is a demonstration of opportunities. That's for sure. No doubt there are guys who are watching this, and this is just a visual representation of what we can do, ”he added.
    http://vz.ru/news/2016/6/9/815177.html

    That is their logic.
  21. I doubt it
    I doubt it 9 June 2016 10: 21
    -1
    Laughter, laugh the idiots.
    Nerves can pat us, be healthy.
    American AUGs were not afraid to enter the Sea of ​​Okhotsk in 1982. If they need it, they will not be afraid now. The fleet and army of the USSR cannot be compared with the current ones. Like everything else.
    About the rulers, or rather traitors, generally silent.
    In an extreme case, Peskov will issue another statement: "... the ships are in neutral waters, which does not contradict international norms ..."
    1. fif21
      fif21 9 June 2016 13: 02
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      Quote: I doubt it
      In an extreme case, Peskov will issue another statement: "... the ships are in neutral waters, which does not contradict international norms ..."
      You are naive! Who reveals the cards! Want reconnaissance in battle? So the war should be. Chop yourself on the nose one-on all of their smart plans, Russia will respond with his next stupidity! For example, it will blow up all vigorous ammunition on its territory, and the scribe is provided with all the land and life on it hi
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    5. Oskar1965
      Oskar1965 9 June 2016 17: 43
      +1
      That's right, buddy. I remember before the bombing of Yugoslavia began, our entire Ministry of Foreign Affairs yelled until a pig squeal: "We will not allow this!" And as they began to bomb, they put their tongues in the fifth point of support, and even then they betrayed the Serbs. I will not be surprised that even now, the common people who have remained here in Russia will also disentangle it, which they will leave behind after fleeing on private planes to the French Riviera.
  22. dorogvalera
    dorogvalera 9 June 2016 10: 22
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    We have ships, we have aircraft carriers and planes, we have a horde, and we are a army! drinks
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  25. Tsoy
    Tsoy 9 June 2016 10: 55
    +1
    Aug did not threaten the Soviet Union? mdaa ...

    See the US Naval Doctrine Fleetx-82 (Fleetex-82) (September 1982)
  26. 31rus2
    31rus2 9 June 2016 11: 56
    0
    Dear minusculeers, please tell me, how do you see the struggle with aircraft carrier formation?
    1. fif21
      fif21 9 June 2016 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear minusculeers, please tell me, how do you see the struggle with aircraft carrier formation?

      You will know a lot - you will die soon lol Is that your concern? Sit still - breathe evenly laughing And for God's sake, forget about these pelvis of the 20th century.
  27. fif21
    fif21 9 June 2016 12: 51
    +1
    Quote: Dmitry X
    And what on the Internet there are few photos of American aircraft carriers?
    Well, feel better? laughing The Chinese forbade entry to Hong Kong to this vessel! laughing
  28. serverny
    serverny 9 June 2016 14: 38
    0
    Quote: Finches
    reveals the enemy at distances up to 1000 km

    That is why even noisy Soviet nuclear-powered submarines of old designs repeatedly went unnoticed through AUGs to aircraft carriers at a distance of observation through the periscope.

    Well, DEPLs of the NATO countries themselves are already tired of counting how many times they managed to freely reach the distance of a torpedo attack during the exercises ...
  29. Ruzina Natalia
    Ruzina Natalia 9 June 2016 15: 30
    +2
    America's task is to scare while they have the edge. The task of Russia is to pretend to be dead cats until they have gained equality. Our (people) task is to be ready for anything. Those who are afraid have time to take a break.
    1. Oskar1965
      Oskar1965 9 June 2016 17: 51
      +1
      They will only frighten their Navy and Air Force, but they will not be able to frighten their NATO brothers to attack their brothers in NATO.
  30. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 9 June 2016 16: 36
    0
    Why the title picture with "French"? "Raphali" on the deck of "Charles de Gaulle".
    Correct.
  31. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 10 June 2016 17: 54
    0
    In the North Sea, fighting on aircraft carriers is difficult because of strong unrest, plus we have the most fortified line and the most powerful Russian fleet based there.

    Where, where? .. is the most powerful Russian fleet based?
    Another interesting question (not related to the Russian fleet): where is absolute ignorance based?
  32. U-krop
    U-krop 10 June 2016 21: 38
    0
    An article about US aircraft carriers, and on the photo "Rafale" on "Charde de Gaulle" negative