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Discussion: How Russian PRO can look like

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Discussion: How Russian PRO can look like


In the first part of the material “How Russia ″ unnoticed ″ has deployed anti-missile defense” told about the oddities in the location and specifics of Russian long-range warning stations and targeting missile launches. We found out that, probably, besides the officially declared functions, they perform some more. Saying "A", you need to say and "B." What are these functions that are talked about so much, but about which so little is known?

I will make a reservation right away, all that will be written below is the author’s free discussion on the possible construction of a promising Russian missile defense system based on scarce available information and common sense. He does not have any insiders on the subject, and therefore all coincidences with reality are random patterns ... of the author’s sick imagination. In this material there will be practically no performance characteristics, names and photographs. The author will try to deal with the possible concept of missile defense.

Splitting a task into parts

Any engineering problem comes down to finding its optimal solution. That is, the cost / efficiency criterion should be at the forefront. You can ruin the country and build an impenetrable missile defense, but at the same time it will have nothing to protect, etc. I think this is understandable. That is why many super-innovative solutions of missile defense tasks are far from always justified.

For example, I have always been amazed by American mania persistence in certain things. Such as inconspicuous flying irons, or super-accurate warheads that hunt for the initial part of the trajectory of the Russian missiles. A masterpiece of engineering (no, really) and stupidity. But the conversation is not about them now ...


To begin with, it is necessary to determine the range of tasks facing the Russian ABM. It is obvious that the main task facing it is to protect the main strategic points of the country from a nuclear / non-nuclear strike in order to maximize its weakening. And it is obvious that the main "client" for her will be the country's nuclear shield, consisting primarily of the ground component. That he is the main goal of the first strike from the enemy. Without it, everything else will be easy prey, but only later.

Today, an attack on them is possible with the help of cruise and ballistic missiles. In the future, and hypersonic atmospheric missiles. We will not touch the latter for the time being in view of the paucity of information about them, but dwell on the threats that exist today.

So, today there are two types of threats that Russia's missile defense system must address: cruise missiles (KR) and ballistic missiles (BR). Both of these types of weapons can be used to deliver both disarming and general strike.

To prevent or minimize the threat from the Kyrgyz Republic, not only active methods of combat (missile defense itself), but also passive ones are used.

Let's look at the map of Eurasia.


As we know, the main part of the Russian nuclear strategic potential is located in a strip: either in the Moscow region (in the broad sense of the word - Vypolzovo, Yoshkar-Ola, Teikovo, Kozelsk), or a narrow strip along the southern border of Russia from the Saratov region to Irkutsk. This arrangement is not accidental.

The range of any US armed forces currently in service (BGM-109 "Tomahawk", AGM-86B) is less than 3 000 km. At the same time, they all have either air or sea basing. If we look at the map, we will see that all the objects, except for the “Moscow Region” bases of the Russian strategic nuclear forces, are beyond the reach of strikes on them by the CD.

The European part of Russia is quite reliably blocked by military air defense / missile defense systems. In any case, an attack on them by the Kyrgyz Republic is possible only in two directions: from the waters of the Black and Baltic Seas.

At the limit of the range you can get some of the bases of the North or Mediterranean seas. But this is if the rocket’s route is straight, like an arrow, which makes it much easier to intercept.


That is why any ship with the Kyrgyz Republic on board in the waters of the Black and Baltic Seas is under the vigilant supervision of the RF Armed Forces and will be destroyed on command from the center in a matter of minutes.

That is why they are always "met" and make training attacks.


Naturally, there are other targets on the territory of the Russian Federation that can be used to strike the KR. And first of all, these are the missile defense systems themselves, pushed forward. Meanwhile, it is very important not only to take them as far away from the protected objects as possible, but also, if possible, to transfer the battle with the enemy’s missiles over the sea.

The fact is that the interception of any atmospheric targets over the sea is much easier. New Russian over-the-horizon radar "Sunflower", for example, the export version of which has a range of 450 km, can reliably cover the naval base and the points of deployment of missile defense systems in these areas. They are specifically designed to work on low-flying targets. Surely the same capabilities will be in the radar "Mars", which will be the "ears and eyes" of the air defense / missile defense system C-500.

So, the first conclusion. The missile defense system of Russia dramatically increases its effectiveness and at the same time reduces threats in the event it is brought to the frontiers, and it is foolish not to use this:

- in the north - Novaya Zemlya, Franz Josef Land, Severnaya Zemlya, Novosibirsk Islands;
- in the east - about. Wrangel, Chukotka, Commander Islands, Kuriles;
- in the west - Kaliningrad region, Crimea, Belarus.

South for now leave alone. About him a little later.

Thus, only thanks to the location of the nodes of its missile defense system, can Russia dramatically reduce the load on its components.

The first line of missile defense

We have dealt with the CD, now that concerns ballistic targets. The United States has two types of missiles: the ground-based ICBM “Minuteman-3” and the sea-based ICBM “Trident-2”. Given the specificity of the use of the marine component in the case of a preventive nuclear strike, the number of SSBNs from which a simultaneous strike can be inflicted is no more than 5-6.

Simply, if the base leaves at the same time more than usual, the number of boats, and they can deliver their blow only from strictly defined points, then this will already be a signal to Russia to be number one in readiness. Theoretically, a strike is also possible from their bases, but the reprogramming of dozens of missiles will also not escape reconnaissance and will become a signal that the enemy should avoid until the last (by indirect evidence, which in this material does not make sense to speak in detail).

So, these can be 2-3 boats from the central Atlantic area and 2-3 boats from the Pacific area. The option from the Indian Ocean can also not be excluded, but then the number of strike forces will be reduced due to the increased deployment time of the boats in this region (and as we remember, in order not to frighten off the enemy, the number of boats on the campaign cannot be more than 5-6). But we will consider all possible options. Each boat contains 24 Trident 2 missiles, which means that each boat can have up to 240 warheads.

It is necessary to take into account the special feature of the Trident-2 missile. All warheads are bred in turn. That is, if they are 10, then it will take quite a significant amount of time (more than 300 km will fly over a minute for a warhead, and it will take at least 5-7 minutes to divorce the entire filling). But even divided, the warheads are flying quite well and can be destroyed by one successful nuclear explosion in space.

At the same time, a strike from the Atlantic is possible on the highways: acceleration from the central Atlantic, separation of warheads in the region of Morocco-Spain and further through the Crimea.

When struck from the Pacific: start and acceleration from the central region, the division of warheads in the region east of Japan and further through Vladivostok - Sakhalin or Manzhuria.

When struck from the United States: acceleration over the territory of the United States and Canada, the separation of warheads in the region of the pole and beyond.

In general, an interesting picture emerges. If you create the first echelon of missile defense at sea: one point is the area west of Gibraltar, the second is the area east of Japan, then you can try to intercept a significant part of the warhead before they are divided or at the time of separation. Here an effective missile defense system based on the 1000-1500 km missile, controlled from space by a single space system. In this case, the ship must have on board a powerful radar.

And how can one not recall the Leader’s plans to build atomic destroyers ... I do not insist that it will be so, but the thought itself gets into my head. In general, the announced plans for the construction of an atomic destroyer consisting of seven units (just such numbers are voiced) seem redundant fleet Of Russia. But if they are part of the country's missile defense system, then everything falls into place.


Of course, it can be destroyed, but it will also be a signal for an attack, which will make a disarming blow from the United States meaningless.

In the north, things are a little more complicated. "Minuteman-3" have individual warheads, which complicates the interception task, given their size. But on the other hand, there are no limitations on the saturation of missile defense - the land has a slightly larger area than the deck of the ship.

One more thing. A strike at missiles that start and are on the initial inertial part of the trajectory with a nuclear explosion does not have a significant impact on their radars, which are still many thousands of kilometers away.

The second point is why the MS should be nuclear. Cost, effectiveness. Kinetics: one rocket - one goal. However, the result is far from guaranteed. To be honest, I am sometimes amazed by the naivety of the Americans, who believe that they will be able to intercept Russian missiles before the split of their warhead.

The USA, even in the conditions of work on the middle part of the trajectory, with the kinetic head part along the old SCADs, with the help of GBI missiles, achieve success of 50 / 50.


But this will be possible only with the deployment in full of a single space system (CEN) tracking rocket launches and trajectories. The first satellite has already been launched. The rest promise until the end of 2018.

But God forbid, to manage until the end of 2020 year. The first one was launched six months ago, and it’s good if the second one is in the current one. Total need ten. Term of manufacture of the satellite - 1,5 year, if that.


What rockets can be the first echelon? This is probably either the so-called long-range missile missile defense system of the C-500 complex, or the A-235 "Nudol" complex. Although it seems to me, it will eventually be the same rocket.

Because the required characteristics are the same.


The characteristics of these missiles must allow the rocket to rapidly accelerate to cosmic velocities (7-10 km / s) in order to bring the warhead to the area no more than 3-5 minutes after launch. As we understand, special precision during the operation of a nuclear warhead is not required.

It should be understood that, taking into account Russia's geographical features, not one, but several frontiers of the first echelon of the Russian missile defense system are possible. In the north - the island, and then the coast of the continent along the line Murmansk-Arkhangelsk-Vorkuta. Given the versatility of the C-500 complex, the second frontier will at the same time solve the tasks of covering distant radars and important defense facilities with missiles of other classes. It would be logical to place a similar second frontier along the Vladivostok-Sakhalin-Kamchatka line in the east of the country.

In the West, as an option, you can think about the border Kaliningrad-Brest-Crimea. But he seems to be already in the depths, which means that his effectiveness will be worse.

In general, of all the directions, the western for the missile defense system of Russia is the worst. Too many threats and too inconvenient lines of defense.


In the south, the safest, on the one hand, direction. An unexpected attack is possible only with a SSBN, but on the other hand, without having reliable bases in the Indian Ocean, it will be extremely difficult to secure the first line of defense. To reliably block the direction with the help of the Navy, you need to have two (Arabian Sea and Bay of Bengal) groups. But at least one in the Arabian Sea. This means that it is necessary to keep at least 3-4 groups in the sea. And one or two - at a great distance from the bases.

Second echelon missile defense

The second echelon takes the blow of those warheads that managed to break through a distance of less than 1000 km to the object of destruction.

All the time of the flight, they are monitored by the Voronezh-DM radar. What for? The fact is that today each station can calculate several hundreds of warhead trajectories with an accuracy of up to 1-2 km. Obviously, if the drop point is far from an important object, then it is likely that this MS will either complete the maneuver and lie down on the combat course, or go astray (was hit by the first echelon of the missile defense, or a technical malfunction occurred) and therefore potentially harmless .

By the way, wonderful things were happening in the Donbas in 2014 year. OTR "Point", which the Ukrainian Armed Forces quite often allowed in the direction of "terrorists" (well, such features in Ukraine of anti-terrorist operations), by "pure chance" never even got into one strategically important object. If far from the object, then they fell, but never into the object itself. I say, miracles, and only.


The warhead can maneuver only in space, when it can accurately calculate its trajectory. Having even entered the upper layers of the atmosphere and having warmed up in them, it will be extremely difficult to track your location, and therefore precisely maneuver. No, this can be done, but the volume and weight of this equipment will replace the warhead, and who needs such a warhead?

Also on the middle segment of the trajectory of the missile defense system, using special algorithms, they try to specifically calculate fake targets and remove them from the "slot of the sight" of anti-missile complexes. As we can see, this part of the missile defense task is no less important than the defeat of the enemy’s military units. That is why she gets so much attention.

The radar operation algorithms are constantly being improved, changes are made to them, dissertations are defended on them, awards and titles are obtained. In general, life goes on.


Thus, by the time the target enters the second echelon area of ​​responsibility, a strictly limited and heavily thinned number of warheads should fall on each object. Even for Moscow, it should be a maximum of several dozen goals.

A small calculation. At the same time, the first wave can have a maximum of 1 900 warheads (6 * 24 * 10 + 450). Taking into account that they should not start at the same time, since in this case the first echelon will work as efficiently as possible and there will be nothing to “build on success”, then no more than half of this number.

A breakthrough of at least half of the first-wave warheads will be an unequivocal success for the enemy. That is, the real-time maximum of 400-500 may fall on the second echelon. For a disarming strike, the number of targets in Russia is at least 30-40. That is an average of 10-15 pieces per target. The Moscow missile defense system at this turn will consist of 50-60 second tier interceptors, plus almost as many third. Plus C-500 batteries deployed around the perimeter. For Moscow, you can not worry too much. But what will be on the periphery? Roughly speaking, one C-500 regiment per area, taking into account the multifunctionality of the tasks to be solved, will give about 16 second echelon anti-missile in constant combat readiness.

Two divisions of eight PU. Of these, at least four launchers for long-range missile defense systems. Total 16 rockets.


Particularly important areas hide behind a large number of divisions, which accordingly increases the firepower.

Given that the maneuver of warheads on this site is almost impossible, that is, it makes sense to use both kinetic warhead and high-explosive fragmentation directional action (here is a question for specialists, which I do not intend to replace). Nuclear warheads here will give flare to radar, which will blind her for quite a long time, and therefore, probably, it will not.

Third tier - These are rockets operating at a distance of up to 100 km and an altitude not higher than 30 km. Atmospheric interception by such Gazel anti-ballistic missiles is well developed, and judging by the fact that many good old Soviet anti-missile units have been re-launched, its upgraded version will become at least the third Moscow missile defense boundary, and perhaps its ideology will be used in C systems as well. 500 for close combat (but for now it’s too early to talk about it).

Here, it is likely that only the kinetic principle of action will work (direct hit). The distance and accuracy of the Mars radar will allow to achieve the desired probability of hitting the enemy's warheads that have broken through.

In general, when all components of the new Russian missile defense system are on combat duty, the likelihood of a nuclear strike on its territory will drop sharply. Understanding this, the most likely opponents of the Russian Federation not only interfere in every way with its deployment, but also try to create "weapon of the future "- hypersonic long-range atmospheric missiles. So far unsuccessfully. When they create it, then it will be worth talking about the ability of the created Russian missile defense system to solve this task. As the military themselves say, the conceptual possibilities of this are being worked out.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 15: 05
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    article for a potential adversary, so as not to rack his brains? what
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 9 June 2016 15: 15
      +22
      this is the level of Wikipedia knowledge - such data may be news only for Honduras intelligence.
      1. quote
        quote 9 June 2016 15: 30
        +11
        Quote: Engineer
        this is the level of Wikipedia knowledge - such data may be news only for Honduras intelligence.


        Let me ask.
        Thank you.
        Do you have a level of knowledge, higher or lower?
        If you are not the head of intelligence.
        The author warned: "Thoughts out loud."
        1. krot
          krot 10 June 2016 19: 19
          -1
          The Japanese also studied in our magazines youth technology and young technology. What seems obvious to someone is not necessarily so for everyone. And the level of US intelligence is not up to par right now. Therefore, probably the article may be a gift. And no matter how much I follow my military equipment, this is the first photo of interceptor missiles that I see, and the appearance of which seemed to be secret. Maybe they have already declassified, I can be wrong.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: Engineer
        this is the level of Wikipedia knowledge - such data may be news only for Honduras intelligence.

        and for B.B.Nadezhdin, a Balshog lover of Vika ... yes
      3. Riv
        Riv 9 June 2016 15: 33
        0
        Really. The only reasonable guarantee is the guarantee that the enemy will not strike. And this, in turn, can only be guaranteed by destroying the enemy with a retaliatory strike. Simple logic.
        As long as Western civilization realizes that it can be destroyed, it will not strike first.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 June 2016 15: 28
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      article for a potential adversary, so as not to rack his brains?

      An amateur article that does not have access to classified information.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 15: 30
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        article for a potential adversary, so as not to rack his brains?

        An amateur article that does not have access to classified information.

        then why this "opus"? request
        1. KCA
          KCA 9 June 2016 20: 04
          0
          there are romantics - generators of ideas, under the hour of absolutely delusional, and there are practices and tactics that consider these ideas and either develop or close them, many experts think too narrowly focused due to education, habits, stereotypes, and they simply don’t believe that it can to be
      2. Rus2012
        9 June 2016 19: 34
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        An amateur article that does not have access to classified information.

        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        then why this "opus"?

        ... for thinking and training the "gray matter" of the curious. laughing

        Personally, it was useful for me to talk about where in space the separation and breeding of BB of adversary missiles take place. Accordingly, the likely construction schemes for their interception.
        It is also becoming clear that there is a need for air cover, for such "removed" sea missile defense platforms, AUGami. Well, further, everything in a circle ... laughing
    3. Road runer
      Road runer 9 June 2016 15: 39
      +1
      a potential adversary has long possessed such knowledge and knows even more than what is written
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 15: 55
      -3
      but the minuses are thrown! you are too serious, my friends, even simple oh sarcasm you can not afford ...wassat
      1. ssergn
        ssergn 9 June 2016 21: 36
        0
        No, well, in kind, brutalized. Plus to you.
        Also from the Urals. laughing
    5. Koshak
      Koshak 9 June 2016 16: 53
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      article for a potential adversary, so as not to rack his brains? what

      The CIA draws only articles from HE.
      1. Bath
        Bath 9 June 2016 19: 26
        0
        It was smooth on paper but forgot about the ravines wink
  2. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 9 June 2016 15: 06
    -1
    Read at night, interesting! In style, what my bride might look like - 90x60x90!
    And so, let the author ask himself - "Why am I so smart and not in the General Staff of Russia?" Although, the author has already answered his novel
    I say miracles, and nothing more.
    1. Simple
      Simple 9 June 2016 17: 57
      +4
      You will not please.
      Do not write "on the case" (MILITARY OVERVIEW) - runners ...
      They write - again, not so!
      What to write about?
      About Savchenko and Poroshenko (pah: no longer even sick)
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 9 June 2016 18: 18
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        Nobody asks to PLEASE! An article on this or other similar topic can be conditionally written by a general designer, a retired general, a military analyst, and even an ensign! They will be professional and interesting to the reader, but only to the extent that the author is "like a fish in water"! Answer, - "Which category does the unnamed author belong to?" Have you yourself read the article and comments to it on the primary source, or not?
  3. CORNET
    CORNET 9 June 2016 15: 06
    +6
    If we "lock ourselves in" on our territory, the Khan of Russia ... I remember that "good air defense" was placed in Cuba ... The United States pulled out all medium-range missiles from Europe at once! Yes, tough, but these "colonizers" do not understand otherwise!
  4. igorbor65
    igorbor65 9 June 2016 15: 28
    +3
    Map with non-Russian Crimea !!
    1. Homo
      Homo 9 June 2016 16: 18
      -1
      Quote: igorbor65
      Map with non-Russian Crimea !!

      That's just for this, I put a minus article!
  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 9 June 2016 15: 28
    +6
    Let's not deal with crap. People who understand for obvious reasons will not say anything. Including, according to the real characteristics and purpose of existing and promising weapons systems.
    And ignorant people - it is better not to stir up the information field and think alone at home on the couch. With beer. But silently. For this is the area where it is better not to talk in silence.
  6. Eustace
    Eustace 9 June 2016 15: 34
    0
    Information in the topic. soldier
    Hypersonic glider U-74: Russia has developed a US missile defense killer

    The successful tests of the experimental Russian glider Ju-74, launched with the help of the RS-18A Stilett intercontinental ballistic missile (UR-100N) from the Dombarovskiy training ground near Orenburg against the target at the Kura training ground in Kamchatka, caused extreme concern of the US military command. Although the details of the tests have not been disclosed, it is currently known that they ended in complete success, the scale of which overturns the entire US missile defense system.
    http://ostkraft.ru/ru/articles/1765
    1. Simple
      Simple 9 June 2016 18: 01
      0
      Is that news like April?
      And for your reference: there are NO INDEXES "u" in GRAU
  7. Shtyn dwarf
    Shtyn dwarf 9 June 2016 15: 37
    +3
    ... and they can strike only from strictly defined points ...
    ---
    IMHO nonsense! The author says that since the program in a missile on a submarine is designed to be launched from a certain point, only from it can a missile be launched. And in order to launch it directly from the submarine base, it is necessary to reprogram it, which will not elude us. Then I did not understand at all. How can this be tracked?

    Today's level of technology is 100% allows you to launch a rocket from anywhere. She only needs to indicate the coordinates of the target. She will do the rest herself!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 June 2016 15: 48
      0
      In principle, Tridents can even launch from the Indian Ocean, everything else from the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean, and the Minutemans in three directions through the North Pole, across the Pacific Ocean and across the Atlantic Ocean - a combined strike from all directions.
    2. Rus2012
      9 June 2016 19: 50
      0
      Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
      The current state of the art at 100% allows you to launch a rocket from anywhere. She only needs to indicate the coordinates of the target.

      ... it is not so! Any rocket has its own range of reach. Those. feature set:
      - at max range, respectively, - min range
      - adjusting characteristics for the "funnel of goals"
      - the possibility of "breeding BB" by area.

      Accordingly, potential targets are listed in advance, and not just "you need to specify the coordinates of the target." Incidentally, the combat crews do not know where the rocket will fly.

      The author is somewhat right when speaking about "retargeting", but only in the part of the "lists" selection algorithm.
  8. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 June 2016 15: 38
    -1
    To hit warheads at the time of separation, missiles with toroidal cumulative warheads are needed - the missile flies into the center of separation of warheads and cuts them with cumulative jets.
    1. Shtyn dwarf
      Shtyn dwarf 10 June 2016 10: 57
      +1
      Joke: There is a remedy for cockroaches. Catch a cockroach and rub the product in a circular motion into the back of a caught cockroach. After 5 minutes, the cockroach will die =)))))
  9. Sashka
    Sashka 9 June 2016 15: 44
    +1
    Let's look at the map of Eurasia.

    Why is it not our Crimea?!?!
    Where is the map from ?! It's time to ban such cards in the Russian Federation !!!
    Good day!
    1. dzen123
      dzen123 9 June 2016 16: 10
      +1
      Yes, just Yuri (who is the author) from Sumy. And there they still have "Ukraine" not finished. Cards with Russian Crimea under criminal liability.
      1. Mowgli
        Mowgli 9 June 2016 21: 45
        0
        Yes, just Yuri (who is the author) from Sumy


        Yes, he has been more than a year, as in Russia (in Moscow or in the suburbs).
        So he would have to change the card ...
  10. HAM
    HAM 9 June 2016 15: 59
    +3
    Comments are sometimes more interesting than the article itself,more benefits!
  11. Lieutenant Izhe
    Lieutenant Izhe 9 June 2016 16: 09
    +1
    American ships with sea-based CD (near our borders) - DEMONSTRATIVE "dancing with a tambourine" ... - carriers are easily detected, the destruction of the CD over the sea (flying without interference cover) is also not the most difficult task for air defense.
    Therefore, the FIRST strike of the Kyrgyz Republic is most likely planned to be carried out with a ground-based PU of the Kyrgyz Republic, which Putin recently mentioned in Greece.
    Although, it seems, under the START-2 Treaty, it is impossible to place Kyrgyzstan on the ground ...
    But, hardly it confuses Americans!
    1. Rus2012
      9 June 2016 19: 59
      +1
      Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
      the destruction of missiles over the sea (flying without cover for interference) is also not the most difficult task for air defense

      ... it's very good. no easy task! We have already discussed - it is easier to detect against the background of "motionless earth".
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 June 2016 16: 12
    +1
    Sweep a couple of glasses for ease of thought, and you can talk all day on this topic.
  13. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 9 June 2016 16: 13
    0
    The article corresponds to what the author wrote about it. But a question for the moderators - the "map" of Eurasia is incorrect, it must be urgently replaced! The author minus the bold one for such a mistake! Crimea is the Russian Federation! Moreover, if it is taken from the original source, reflect it on this site at least villainy.
  14. engineer74
    engineer74 9 June 2016 16: 16
    0
    The best missile defense is a preventive strike! smile
    IMHO, The author draws the fantastic capabilities of the S-500, I would like to believe that he is not mistaken! fellow
  15. Alexez
    Alexez 9 June 2016 16: 28
    +2
    You shouldn't have pounced on a person right away, he immediately warned that he was not a professional, etc. An article of such a plan with real analysis, etc. tech. characteristics and details - this is an automatic article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation 283 and 275. So the author decided to excite ordinary people with his thoughts on the topic of "total nuclear war" - it turned out the same. Now you can write an article about what will happen if ... for example, the Russian Federation repelled a massive nuclear strike on its territory without significant damage ... or "signs of preparation by a probable enemy of inflicting MNA" - in general, not an open edge for imagination and flight of thought) ))
  16. 31rus2
    31rus2 9 June 2016 16: 42
    0
    Dear, where are they talking about, because it is to her and the hyper sound that the Americans are now paying special attention. It is from the pro sites that the first disarming strikes can be delivered
  17. sa-ag
    sa-ag 9 June 2016 16: 42
    0
    "... The characteristics of these rockets should allow them to quickly accelerate the rocket to cosmic speeds (7-10 km / s),"
    The author, having accelerated the rocket to 10 km / s, it will go into a highly elliptical orbit around the earth, and why do you have radar stations in your hour "H" that track targets unharmed by anyone?
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 9 June 2016 16: 50
    -1
    Russia is unable to make a global missile defense
    just like the USA is incapable.

    A partial, like Aegis, maybe. And you need to create it.
    Not against America, but against many countries that are not very loving
    Russia and possessing now (or in the near future)
    Medium range BR.
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 9 June 2016 17: 18
      0
      Well, there are not many who "do not like" us, and if this is so, then there will be a global missile defense. laughing But by and large, if we are not allowed to live, if our children do not go to school, then this world will burn with us in the fire of nuclear weapons.
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 9 June 2016 17: 10
    +1
    "Kinetics: one missile - one target" ////
    "I am sometimes amazed at the naivety of Americans" ////

    They are not so naive at all. is being tested
    already Multiple Kill Vehicle
    in the photo (laboratory test).
    As you can see, in one package 12 pieces of Kill Vehicle.
    They are launched into space by a single missile defense.
    1. 31rus2
      31rus2 9 June 2016 18: 53
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      Yes, yes, I also read about it, it’s naive to think that the enemy will sit and wait
    2. Rus2012
      9 June 2016 20: 16
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      They are launched into space by a single missile defense.

      ... this will hardly increase the interception reliability. Especially for the case of a "bunch of grapes" or even an ordinary "bus" in the case of many quasi-heavy LCs.
      It is not difficult to predict the subsequent moves of the Yankees, there are only two of them:
      - an attempt at "nuclear selection"
      - crawl to the damned Russians, as was the case in 1972, behind a new treaty on limiting SSS and missile defense.
      But here Lavrov's laconicly formulated "Jesuit" proposals will follow :))))
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 10 June 2016 12: 43
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      They are not so naive at all. is being tested
      already Multiple Kill Vehicle
      in the photo (laboratory test).
      As you can see, in one package 12 pieces of Kill Vehicle.
      They are launched into space by a single missile defense.

      Only GBI can remove such a "load" of interceptors. And there are not many of them in the United States. About 30 missiles, for comparison, according to the START-3 treaty, there can be 700 + 100 non-deployed carriers.
      Each such GBI missile is probably more expensive than a nuclear missile (Trident-2 costs $ 70 million). GBIs are made on the basis of Minutman-3, taking into account such a pack of kinetic interceptors, the cost of the first GBI rocket will be more than $ 1 million.
  20. Old26
    Old26 9 June 2016 18: 53
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    The article is about what? Even a person far from this could write an article better than the author
    Amazed by his arguments about the removal of the missile defense zone, as he wrote:
    - in the north - Novaya Zemlya, Franz Josef Land, Severnaya Zemlya, Novosibirsk Islands;
    - in the east - about. Wrangel, Chukotka, Commander Islands, Kuriles;
    - in the west - Kaliningrad region, Crimea, Belarus.

    What does he mean by indicating these geographical points? Placement of radar, missiles, or what?
    The deployment of the radar station on Franz Josef Land was once worked out and was rejected. To place it on Novaya Zemlya or else where also not the best option. It is necessary to bring energy, but how? The author apparently does not bother with such non-global affairs. Especially touched by the power of reasoning is that SPRN stations will direct interceptor missiles ...

    Quote: CORNET
    If we "lock ourselves in" on our territory, the Khan of Russia ... I remember that "good air defense" was placed in Cuba ... The United States pulled out all medium-range missiles from Europe at once! Yes, tough, but these "colonizers" do not understand otherwise!

    It should be understood that by the term "good air defense" you still mean our R-12 MRBMs, and not the S-75 air defense systems? laughing In principle, yes, the Americans removed their MRBMs from Europe, although the world was literally one step away from a nuclear war. Unfortunately, our historians try not to cover the prehistory of the Cuban missile crisis in chronological order, literally by months and days. It would be interesting. But then the whole picture of the crisis that we know will "break".
    1. Rus2012
      9 June 2016 20: 07
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      Quote: Old26
      Unfortunately, our historians try not to cover the prehistory of the Cuban missile crisis in chronological order, literally by months and days. It would be interesting. But then the whole picture of the crisis that we know will "break".

      /// intriguing! :)
      And what prevents you from telling how everything was in your view ...
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 9 June 2016 20: 31
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      Quote: Old26
      The deployment of the radar station on Franz Josef Land was once worked out and was rejected. To place it on Novaya Zemlya or else where is also not the best option. It is necessary to bring energy, but how?

      Did you mean overseas stations? And then the usual, they consume a diesel engine many times less than a truck and a tank. And the number of empty barrels on the islands that are now being exported says that ordinary meter radars were actually placed there
  21. Old26
    Old26 9 June 2016 18: 53
    +1
    Quote: Eustace
    Information in the topic. soldier
    Hypersonic glider U-74: Russia has developed a US missile defense killer

    The successful tests of the experimental Russian glider Ju-74, launched with the help of the RS-18A Stilett intercontinental ballistic missile (UR-100N) from the Dombarovskiy training ground near Orenburg against the target at the Kura training ground in Kamchatka, caused extreme concern of the US military command. Although the details of the tests have not been disclosed, it is currently known that they ended in complete success, the scale of which overturns the entire US missile defense system.
    http://ostkraft.ru/ru/articles/1765


    Do not mindlessly repeat those bloopers of the media that are replicated. Moreover, the further you go, the more mistakes there are.
    1. This is a specific successful test of the product, not successful tests.
    2. We are not talking about a combat product yet, but only about a prototype demonstrator known as product 4202 (this is an internal designation of KB)
    3. The product was not launched using the ICBM UR-100N (it is 15A30, it is RS-18A). This rocket was decommissioned when. The tests were carried out on an experimental carrier 15A71-35, created on the basis of the ICBM UR-100N UTTX (aka RS-18B, aka 15A35). The missile system has the designation 15P771, which means that the missile itself has the numbers 71 in its index, that is, the designation 15A71-35, 15A71 and 15Ю71.
    4. if you already write the western designation of the apparatus, then they had it U-71, and this index was first used by "JANE". Let's leave this designation on their conscience.
    5. Well, the statements
    that they ended in complete success, the scale of which upsets the entire US missile defense system.

    An example of journalism. How can a flight from point A to point B overturn the entire US missile defense system - only the author knows. This is still far enough away. And it will take more than one or two tests
  22. sergey2017
    sergey2017 9 June 2016 19: 36
    +1
    How Russia “quietly” deployed missile defensehttp: //topwar.ru/96482-obsuzhdenie-kak-mozhet-vyglyadet-pro-rossii.html
    Everything in the article is more intelligible and with a detailed map of the Russian radar! By the way, the Ministry of Defense will restore the Dnepr missile attack warning radar station (SPRN) located near Sevastopol. According to a source in the military-industrial complex, the upgraded facility will be able to record the launches of both ballistic, cruise, and hypersonic missiles from the Black and Mediterranean Seas, protecting the territory of Russia in the south and southeast directions!
  23. jury1971
    jury1971 9 June 2016 19: 49
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    The article is interesting, only the author is looking in the wrong direction. Is it still not clear that the only real adversary, and not only for us, is now CHINA and only it? Only China is able to crush any potential missile defense of any country. Everyone remembers how much our yellow neighbors spend on their rearmament? It's time, guys, to move away from the stereotypes of the Cold War and open their eyes as soon as possible. Of course, perhaps we will continue to give our territory to China, allegedly for rent, but this will not continue indefinitely. Their population can double in a few years, and this is 4000000000 people who need to live somewhere and eat something.
  24. Old26
    Old26 9 June 2016 20: 57
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    Quote: Rus2012
    And what prevents you from telling how everything was in your view ...

    No problem. It just takes 20-30 minutes to find the file on your computer. And alas, not in my mind. If it were only in my view - it would be possible to write IMHO and all. And then the dates ...
    By the way, you throw in a personal or here. The topic seems to be not about missile defense
    1. Rus2012
      9 June 2016 21: 13
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      Quote: Old26
      By the way, you throw in a personal or here. The topic seems to be not about missile defense

      ...as you prefer. Thank you in advance!
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 June 2016 06: 51
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    Well, it’s so reasonably painted.
    The truth about the separation of air defense / missile defense I would like to know more,
    but it’s already to dig.
    But I personally think that if it comes to the situation,
    described by the author, then we will deeply do not care,
    how many warheads reached us.
    For if you hit you, then do not care if you get far from you,
    then do not care. I live in Vladivostok, which is clearly in sight.
  26. the same doctor
    the same doctor 10 June 2016 13: 12
    +1
    The best air defenses are tanks on the runway. The best missile defense is a medium-range missile strike at the starting position. Only missile defense systems with nuclear warheads that start BEFORE the adversary launches their ICBMs can be truly effective. Why not help Cuba create a modern missile defense system?