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The devil wears the "Truth." Part of 5

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I suggest a little distraction from the terrible creations of Stalin's "Cyberdine", looking into the Village of Fools called the Third Reich. I express myself without any exaggeration, because in the book "Suicide" that neither the German is a fool!


But not only stupidity is a characteristic feature of the German people, according to Rezun: “The best German tank of 1941 T-IIIA had 0,94 kg per square centimeter of the supporting surface. Almost a kilogram! Per square centimeter! Of course, he will fall into the mud. And the specific power is only 13,9 hp. per ton of weight. This is not specific power, but specific weakness. The rest are German Tanks were even worse. These tanks made fools for the sake of window dressing. This is a typical German trash ”(p. 144).

Posingly scattering in his book with the contemptuous expression “unfinished nazis”, the author himself unwittingly “painted himself in those colors,” because tying up mental abilities and professional qualities to national identity is clearly a Nazi approach. And our “ethnologist” should be corrected: the specific pressure on the ground at the medium tank Pz. III A was 0,63 kg / cm ², and power density - 16,2 l.c. / t.

Justice Rezun awarding the title of "Best German tank 1941 of the year" looks very controversial, because this combat vehicle appeared in 1937 year, and the German army entered the war against the Soviet Union with the "troika" of modifications E, F and G.

Now I will make the necessary digression and will acquaint you with the basis on which Viktor Suvorov diagnoses the “weakness” of tanks. And he does this on the basis of a comparison of the Soviet “lightweight” BT-2 with the super-heavy (!) German tank “Mouse” (“Mouse”): “The engine was powered by an X -UMN XX MBNXXX engine, and again it turned out specific power 509 hp on 1050 ton of weight. This is what they did at the end of the war and did not have time to complete. For comparison: our “outdated” BT-5,5, which was put into service even before Hitler came to power, had a specific power 1 (SIX WITH HALF) times higher. The engine is the heart of the tank. Hitler's "Mouse" had a weak heart in comparison with its exorbitant weight. And it’s better not to talk about specific power, but about specific weakness ”(p. 2).

You can easily check the viability of the “cordial” approach of Rezun, even within the framework of the development of the Soviet “high-speed tanks”. The BT-7М tank, which had a "shameful" specific pressure on the ground (0,90 kg / cm²), was supposed to "fear" the mud much more strongly than the BT-2 (0,64 kg / cm²) mentioned by the author, especially since power per ton of weight, the diesel “seven” is inferior to the “two” by more than one horsepower (34,1 l.c. / t. against 35,3 l.c. / t.). Is it possible to argue that BT-7M is “weak” in comparison with BT-2? Far from it, the diesel “seven” together with the BT-7 of the 1937 model of the year were definitely the best light tanks of the world for the 1941 year! From the totality of tactical and technical characteristics, of course, although with the cross they, of course, was all right.

As for the "Mouse", due to the low dynamic qualities (the maximum speed, by the way, was 20 km / h), the creation of the notorious Ferdinand Porsche was considered by the German military primarily as a mobile firing point in the fortified system, capable of "stopping" attacks of heavy tanks.

Let's return to the Pz III tanks. In the invasion of the Soviet Union took part 965 "triples". These were fairly well-balanced combat vehicles capable of effectively fighting a tank of its T-28 class, but the capabilities of their 50-mm short-barreled guns were clearly not enough for the Thirty-Fours. It was possible to hit the T-34 in the "forehead" no more than with the 300-meter distance. Armor protection Pz. III, which had a thickness of 30 mm in the main armored planes, also did not give confidence because of this “counterpart”.

The Panzernik, having a crew of 5 people (one hundred percent segregation of duties), surpassed all Soviet tanks in the quantity and quality of observation and aiming devices. And even with regard to the T-34 it was not something significant, but it emphasized the dominance over all Soviet light tanks. Frontal armor BT-7 model 1937, punched 50-mm tank gun from a distance 1800 m.

By the way, for the facilities created for the crew, with Pz. III could not be compared with any Soviet, English or American tank of the time. Including for this reason, the trophy "troika" have become the favorite command vehicles in the Red Army. They were also used for their intended purpose.

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  1. Berber
    Berber 9 June 2016 09: 26
    +10
    Rezun is a traitor! That says it all. I've read his books. Everything that is written there is a lie, aimed primarily at the Western reader. I do not understand why he is extolled.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 9 June 2016 09: 40
      +6
      Quote: BerBer
      Rezun is a traitor! That says it all. I've read his books. Everything that is written there is a lie, aimed primarily at the Western reader. I do not understand why he is extolled.


      but a beautiful lie ... this is what they fall for ...
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 9 June 2016 10: 56
        +5
        I was thinking here.
        Purely theoretically.
        If Rezun began to create in our time and before sending books to print, he would lay them out on Topwar, so to speak, for a break-in.
        I can’t write further, I laugh.
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 9 June 2016 13: 36
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          If Rezun began to create in our time and before sending books to print, he would lay them out on Topwar, so to speak, for a break-in.

          It is unlikely that he would start rolling in his opuses. They are designed for a different audience, and at VO it would simply be mixed with the waste of his life.
          The flag is not mine, I live in the Urals.
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 9 June 2016 15: 14
            0
            Quote: EvgNik
            The flag is not mine, I live in the Urals.

            Evgeny Nikolaevich, we never doubted you! Have some fun! yes
          2. Pereira
            Pereira 9 June 2016 15: 59
            0
            Actually, I’m talking about this.
    2. dauria
      dauria 9 June 2016 09: 41
      +4
      Rezun is a traitor!



      Nope, now it's called an "enterprising person." Dealer from history. It turns out that you can also trade with it. Both money and fame. Like the pros from "Pussy Wright" - and not music, but money and fame.
    3. volot-voin
      volot-voin 9 June 2016 09: 56
      +5
      Quote: BerBer
      Rezun is a traitor! That says it all. I've read his books.

      I also read his books. Interesting reading, it was entertaining. "Stalin's dreams of becoming the" Master of the World "", "the preparation of an army to Europe ..... By the Stalinist leadership" when the country was only slightly raised from the ruins of the civil war, and for the sake of survival they were preparing for a new one at a frantic pace and enormous sacrifices. There were, of course, excesses, for which Rezun clings.
      I also disagree about the complete stupidity and disorder in the 3rd Reich. With such qualities, they would not have reached physically to Moscow and Stalingrad, and even to confront the whole world in fact from 39 to 45 - fools could not. I'm not even talking about love of Hitler, nevertheless both my grandfathers fought, and the grandmothers survived the blockade, but the Germans deserve respect.
      1. Valeron45
        Valeron45 9 June 2016 10: 13
        -11%
        Has the cunning and clever Chikatilo, the killer of innocent people, also earned respect from you? How long they could not catch.
        1. volot-voin
          volot-voin 9 June 2016 10: 29
          +12
          Quote: Valeron45
          Has the cunning and clever Chikatilo, the killer of innocent people, also earned respect from you?

          I'm talking about the professionalism of the German military, scientists about the seriousness of the enemy who was defeated by grandfathers, you are about an insane degenerate. What common? Only the brutality of action? Or all the officers of the Wehrmacht in your opinion were maniacs and chikatilo type?
          One must be able to respect a strong defeated enemy; everyone can kick a dead lion. Alive is harmful to health.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 9 June 2016 11: 07
            +7
            Climbing high onto a pedestal
            Let, as a witness, confirm by right:
            Yes, victory was not easy for us.
            Yes, the enemy was brave. The more our glory.

            K.M. Simonov
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 9 June 2016 10: 27
        0
        Quote: volot-voin I’m not even talking about Hitler’s love, yet both my grandfathers fought, and the grannies survived the blockade, but the Germans earned respect.

        I don’t digest Americans either (the government naturally), but look how they promoted Japanese cinema, and even in their films the Japanese are smart and brave.
        Whether yakuza or samurai what. Otherwise, one asks. "Why, the United States fumbled with Japan for so long that they even used nuclear weapons?", "Look at the territory of one country and the territory of another", "maybe the Americans are de @ ly or their government is somehow different?"
        So, it turns out as a result, WWII for the USA and WWII for the USSR is not comparable in reality in any way, and the Americans are proud, though ....
        1. volot-voin
          volot-voin 9 June 2016 10: 33
          +3
          Quote: avva2012
          I don’t digest Americans either (the government naturally), but look how they promoted Japanese cinema, and even in their films the Japanese are smart and brave.

          By the way, I do not digest Americans either, but I respect them. I respect them as a strong adversary, for their scientific achievements, for example, which are foolish to deny. There are certainly darkness overseas fools, but there are also smart people, otherwise they would not have risen like that. In the USA, of course, there are many such as "Psaki" but not only Psaki is America inhabited.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 9 June 2016 10: 58
            +1
            So, I write, "government". Macaques at the service of capital.
            How, Americans know how to PR themselves, this must be learned! A smart enemy must be respected and adopted the best. hi
      3. Pereira
        Pereira 9 June 2016 11: 01
        +5
        I agree.
        The first books went with a bang.
        But not because of their quality, but because there were few people who knew the topic and they did not have access to the media, and there was no Internet yet. Now this will not work.

        And about Rezun I will say this. He has merit to the country, although he was not going to do anything like that. It was thanks to him that tens of thousands of people appeared who studied the history and technology of the Second World War, and crushed the followers of Rezun intellectually and mentally, and did not allow new Rezuns to appear.
        Here is such a squiggle, you know. (ce).

        About the Germans.
        The Germans had stupidity. But for the time being, it was leveled by other factors.
        So the chances of the Germans reaching Moscow and the chances of being defeated at the border were close. But this is a very voluminous topic.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 9 June 2016 11: 38
          0
          Historians say that the Germans' commissary service is something with something. There went from schools, those who were worthless.
        2. k174oun7
          k174oun7 16 June 2016 12: 45
          0
          It should be noted that Rezun's books are written in brisk, accessible language. For example, what were the German army groups, what were the tank groups. Who commanded them. How many Soviet fronts were in the Second World War, who commanded and the military path of the commanders. I agree with you that many had a desire to figure it out for themselves. I was interested in the "tank" question. Fortunately, not only the writings of Rezun, Bushkov, etc. were on the shelves. but a lot of veterans' memories, a lot of data from the Internet.
          There are still many books by Rezun and others like him in bookstores. Accordingly, it is necessary to remind that the falsifiers do not stop their filthy business both from there and from within. And some of them are civil servants, historians and museum workers. Correctly the author recalls and arguably defends his position
  2. mig29mks
    mig29mks 9 June 2016 09: 28
    +6
    Rezun is that aunt, he humiliates the quality of German tanks and German soldiers only in order to show what unlucky freaks the USSR could not defeat !!!
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 9 June 2016 10: 26
      -1
      Rezun is the only one who does not refer to Stalin's gullibility towards Hitler, who does not hate the Russian soldier for his alleged inability to fight, who does not agree with the superiority of German weapons over Soviet ones either in quantity or in quality. And therefore he is a traitor. He betrayed those whose mediocre leadership led to the military disasters of 1941 and 1942. And he justified those who saved the country at the cost of their lives.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 9 June 2016 11: 11
        0
        Mahmut, you still do not understand why Rezun sculpted his work.
        1. volot-voin
          volot-voin 9 June 2016 12: 41
          +2
          Quote: Pereira
          , You still do not understand why Rezun sculpted his work.

          Not for what, but for whom and in whose interests. Conducted large-scale research (maybe not one, someone helped a lot) on that era, and on the basis of this put forward a slender version, similar to the truth.
          His work is many times stronger, for example, than the version of the ancient Ukrainian-r-ah that dug the sea. On that version, too, Karpel universities. The Second World War is not such a distant period in history, there are even living eyewitnesses, long-livers and the truth is easier to verify than 40 BC.
  3. Don karleone
    Don karleone 9 June 2016 09: 40
    0
    The dog barks, the caravan goes
  4. sergey2017
    sergey2017 9 June 2016 09: 40
    +1
    It is all known for a long time that it is necessary to minimize the pressure per square centimeter of the supporting tracked surface and the increased power density, hp per ton of tank weight! What is the conclusion from this article? Were German tank designers fools before the start of World War II? Nonsense!
  5. gg.na
    gg.na 9 June 2016 09: 46
    +1
    Rezun I associate with mutton and nonsense! I can’t say anything else and I don’t have anything to add!
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 9 June 2016 09: 47
    +5
    Rezun is worthy of a "tower", this is beyond doubt, But I would like to ask the author of the article - where did "Panzernik", having a crew of 5 people (one hundred percent division of duties) come from, surpassed all Soviet tanks in the quantity and quality of observation and aiming devices. In relation to the T-34, this was not something significant, but it emphasized the dominance over all Soviet light tanks. "?
    5 crew members with a 37- or 50-mm gun is too much. And don't confuse optics, visibility, quantity and quality. The optics of the "troika" were excellent, but the number of observation devices and their location were unsuccessful. And the "troika" became the favorite command tank solely because of its comfort and excellent (in comparison with Soviet tanks) radio equipment.
    1. R2D2
      R2D2 9 June 2016 13: 22
      0
      extra mouths had to be fused out of the material just so that there would be no unemployment)
  7. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 9 June 2016 09: 54
    +5
    Why, in general, Rezun to analyze and refute? Much honor too! None of the serious researchers have ever perceived his grim libations as a source of information. It is especially sad for Vladimir Bogdanovich that he, being a tanker by training himself, writes about tanks as sheer nonsense.
  8. avva2012
    avva2012 9 June 2016 10: 01
    0
    By the way, for the facilities created for the crew, with Pz. III could not be compared with any Soviet, English or American tank of the time. Including for this reason, the trophy "troika" have become the favorite command vehicles in the Red Army. They were also used for their intended purpose.

    Trophy German medium tank Pz.III commander N.I. Barysheva and his crew. 107-th separate tank battalion, Volkhov front, summer 1942
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 9 June 2016 10: 03
      +1
      And another photo.

      Soviet tankers on captured German armored vehicles. This is a separate company of captured tanks, Western Front, March 1942. In the foreground is the Pz.III medium tank, then - the StuG III assault guns.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 9 June 2016 10: 08
        0


        Trophy German tanks (in the frame - Pz.Kpfw. III) are being towed for repairs to plant number XXUMX in Stalingrad.
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. 9 June 2016 10: 21
          0
          Quote: avva2012
          Captured German tanks

          and mirrored: the BT-7 mentioned in the article in the Wehrmacht bore the designation Pz.Kpfw.BT 742 (r).
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 9 June 2016 11: 30
            +1
            The value of our photos is that they are relatively few. Photographers shot, naturally for a newspaper. The Germans lived richer. The camera could not only afford an officer.
            Our pictures are not staged, they are just diamonds.
      2. kotvov
        kotvov 9 June 2016 10: 51
        0
        Soviet tankers on captured German armored vehicles,
        Well, it would probably be stupid not to use the trophies that fell into your hands, their own have not yet started the production of armored vehicles. In battle, the T-34s were better than the German ones and 3 and 4.
  9. Donlomakin
    Donlomakin 9 June 2016 11: 23
    0
    Rezun is a traitor! That says it all. I've read his books. Everything that is written there is a lie, aimed primarily at the Western reader. I do not understand why he is extolled.
    But nevertheless, there are many of his followers in our country, who refer to Rezun as the primary source.
  10. Stas57
    Stas57 9 June 2016 11: 44
    -1
    Justice Rezun awarding the title of "Best German tank 1941 of the year" looks very controversial, because this combat vehicle appeared in 1937 year, and the German army entered the war against the Soviet Union with the "troika" of modifications E, F and G.

    and what is the controversy?
    he was really the best German on 41.

    Back to the Pz III tanks. 965 “triples” took part in the invasion of the Soviet Union. These were fairly well-balanced combat vehicles, capable of effectively fighting a tank of their class T-28, but the capabilities of their 50-mm
    short-barreled guns were clearly not enough in relation to the "thirty-four". Hit the T-34 in the "forehead" was possible no more than 300-meter distance. Armor Protection Pz. III, which had a thickness of 30 mm in the main armor planes, also did not give confidence in view of such a “vis-a-vis”.

    this is news ...
    5 cm gun took T34 from the same ranges as .. t34 -500-600 -m problem in 76mm shells.
    The armor (H) of AShka was 30 + 30 and was poorly taken 76 mm bb, if any.


    The Panzernik, with a crew of 5 people (100% division of duties), exceeded all Soviet tanks in the number and quality of surveillance and aiming devices. And although with respect to the T-34 this was not something significant,

    oops, what a trifle ..
    that the first T34 was blind to such an extent that he did not see not only vocational schools, but even larger guns written tons of books.
    This was a huge problem before the combine and the 5 crewman
  11. R2D2
    R2D2 9 June 2016 13: 18
    0
    Why discuss an abnormally sick person? - it means to be like. It is insulting that it is written in such a commonplace language. The question arises who needs it? Someone wants to show our Russian urapatriots narrow-minded people