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Irkutsk plant received a contract for the supply of the Defense Ministry aircraft Yak-152

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The RF Ministry of Defense issued a contract to the Irkutsk Aviation Plant (a branch of Irkut Corporation) to supply 150 training aircraft Yak-152 for primary training of pilots, reports RIA News report of the director of the lean production of the enterprise Sergey Ymanov.




“Currently, the Irkutsk Aviation Plant is starting to fulfill the order of the Ministry of Defense, which has ordered 150 of such machines,” said Yamanov.

According to him, now "there are three Yak-152 airplanes in a different assembly plant."

Yamanov recalled that "the Yak-152 light training aircraft achieves speeds up to 350 kilometers per hour and has a catapult."

"Irkutsk aviation Plant (IAP) - a branch of Irkut Corporation PJSC is one of the most modern and dynamically developing engineering enterprises in Russia. For his historyconducted from 1932 of the year, the plant produced about 7000 aircraft of more than 20 types, which were supplied to 40 countries. The capabilities of the plant allow us to carry out a full cycle of work, including the design and technological preparation of the production of aircraft, the production of equipment, the production of test and serial aircraft, their ground and flight tests, after-sales service. ”, Says the site of the company.
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  1. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 7 June 2016 18: 27
    +14
    "...message lean manufacturing director enterprises of Sergey Yamanov .... "

    Interesting job title laughing


    "... to fulfill the order of the Ministry of Defense, which ordered 150 of these machines ..."

    I wonder what are the terms of the contract?
    1. Pavel1
      Pavel1 7 June 2016 19: 09
      +2
      Yamanov recalled that “the light training aircraft Yak-152 has a speed of up to 350


      Yak3 did more, almost 600
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 7 June 2016 19: 23
        +19
        What for? On the contrary, the emphasis is on saving the same, and this is the maximum resource of the engine.

        This is a basic training aircraft + all sorts of DOSAAF and other air clubs, to replace the Yak-52.

        There, by the way, the Austrian engine RED Aircraft A03 V12.
        1. Pavel1
          Pavel1 7 June 2016 20: 53
          +4
          Well, our VK-105PF2 engine was on our plane
          , which gave 1300hp and beat nemchuru in the tail and mane, and no Austrians were near.
          1. aviator65
            aviator65 7 June 2016 22: 27
            +9
            Quote: Paul1
            Well, our VK-105PF2 engine was on our plane

            Which one is on "your"?
            This is not about the further development of World War II fighters, but about the replacement of the Yak-52 TCB, an initial training aircraft, partly sports. So, the M-14P, which has 300 hp, still stands on it. Where is he more? The same goes for speed. fool
            1. aktanir
              aktanir 7 June 2016 23: 14
              +1
              350 km ?????? I'm not confusing anything, is this a plane ???
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 8 June 2016 06: 41
                -10%
                Misunderstanding something is happening in the order system of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
                Why for MO, for the initial training of pilots, is an airplane of the past: a screw, piston aircraft with a speed of 300 km / h? What is it to replace the training aircraft of the era of jet aircraft L-39?

                In the training of military pilots of jet aircraft, the transition from L-39 training rocket desks to piston, screw YAK-152, with speeds several times slower, is a step backwards !!!
                What is nowhere to put money in Russia to produce a car of the past? There is no jet engine for a simple, easy, cheap single-engine training aircraft? So for the Yak-152 engine imported piston.
                What is the logic I do not understand? Or in the Moscow Region, the ladies of the Serdyukov shoots continue to sit on the system of orders for military equipment. Then, even as they were promoting as a training aircraft for the initial training of the Yak-130, I was surprised at the unreasonableness of that decision to create a complex, expensive, two-engine aircraft, as a training one, to replace the L-39. It seems that there are not specialists in the Defense Ministry, but budget "sawers" who care little about the needs of the Army.
                1. Alex_59
                  Alex_59 8 June 2016 07: 37
                  +29
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Why for MO, for the initial training of pilots, is an airplane of the past: a screw, piston aircraft with a speed of 300 km / h? What is it to replace the training aircraft of the era of jet aircraft L-39?
                  In the training of military pilots of jet aircraft, the transition from L-39 training rocket desks to piston, screw YAK-152, with speeds several times slower, is a step backwards !!!

                  On the contrary, it is a step forward. Yak-152 complements Yak-130 or L-39. This type of aircraft is intended for initial training, i.e. mastering the basics of flight theory. Launch, taxiing, take-off, maintaining altitude, speed, decrease, landing, mileage. For all this, the capabilities of the L-39 and the Yak-130 are redundant. Why spend the flight resources of a more expensive jet on primitive elementary education? To illustrate this analogy - you do not sit down a child immediately for a sports adult bike for 40 thousand rubles? At first he tries on a three-wheeled vehicle, then on a teenager, and only then he can change to an adult. Duck here, the Yak-152 is a children's tricycle. And the Yak-130 is already an adult bike. On it, aerobatics is already being practiced and the basics of the use of weapons, and not the first attempts to stay in the air.
                  1. ism_ek
                    ism_ek 8 June 2016 15: 13
                    +11
                    The catalog price of one Yak-130, which goes to replace the L-39, is $ 15 million. It is unprofitable to train a beginner on such an aircraft.
                    The Ministry of Defense paid 152 million rubles (approximately $ 300 million) for the development, manufacture of FOUR prototypes of the Yak-5, a simulator and all tests.
                2. maratkoRuEkb
                  maratkoRuEkb 8 June 2016 07: 40
                  +16
                  You do not panic comrade and think with your own mind. This is a plane for the very initial training of pilots. Takeoff landing, the basics so to speak. In operation, it will be several times cheaper than any jet.
                  And already when the pilot has basic skills he will be transferred to the Yak130. So everything is logical and correct.
                3. dima mzk
                  dima mzk 9 June 2016 17: 04
                  0
                  What is the logic? I’ll tell you, remember, there was such a DOSAAF, or rather, air circles, and so for them there are people who are trained in private piloting. Yes, and the school come in handy. In your opinion, the cadet immediately jumps to a supersonic one?
            2. Pavel1
              Pavel1 9 June 2016 14: 21
              -2
              Quote: aviator65
              then which one on "your"


              OUR is one that has everything ours and the engine and electronics and everything else, and if the super-super 80% is not ours, and even this yak52 with our engine, because they killed their own engine building, that's why it isn’t ours, okay?
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 7 June 2016 20: 58
          +6
          Quote: donavi49
          to replace the Yak-52.


          What DOSAAF, what are you talking about, was at our airport that week, the competition was in a / model sport. I wanted to cry from the level, everyone killed almost to death. Of the 17 Yak-52 that were in the club, there is one orphan, and no more. There is no money, all through the stump of the deck, which 152nd, which horseradish to buy, and it costs how much, it’s scary to think.
          1. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 8 June 2016 10: 43
            +7
            Therefore, it is not necessary to release and replace anything, but to continue to cry ...
          2. Koshak
            Koshak 9 June 2016 16: 23
            -1
            Quote: Ros 56
            What DOSAAF, what are you talking about, was at our airport that week, the competition was in a / model sport. I wanted to cry from the level, everyone killed almost to death. Of the 17 Yak-52 that were in the club, there is one orphan, and no more. There is no money, all through the stump of the deck, which 152nd, which horseradish to buy, and it costs how much, it’s scary to think.

            1. cat 23
              cat 23 9 June 2016 17: 55
              +1
              That’s interesting, Mosfilm’s partner, who blocked the viewing of a video of a piece of a diamond hand, as he considers himself the copyright holder of Soviet films that were shot with common money ... is that ???
        3. Alex_59
          Alex_59 8 June 2016 07: 26
          +3
          Quote: donavi49
          There, by the way, the Austrian engine RED Aircraft A03 V12.

          This is sad. It would be better if the M-14 continued to be released. And then spare parts are in short supply. On the Yakovlev website, by the way, the Yak-152 indicates that he is with M-14.
        4. s13b
          s13b 8 June 2016 14: 41
          0
          German engine. 12-cylinder diesel RED A03 V12 with a capacity of 500 hp. was experimentally installed in Germany on one of the Yak-52 aircraft, whose flight tests showed a qualitative improvement in all its characteristics. The same engine, apparently, will be used on the experimental Yak-152. One such motor has already been installed on board the first flight model Yak-152 (No. 0001), the second could be seen in the workshop of the Irkutsk aircraft plant next to the specimen for static tests (No. 0003). Modifications of the Yak-152 can be equipped with a less powerful six-cylinder diesel engine RED A05 with a capacity of 350 hp
      2. firefighter
        firefighter 7 June 2016 19: 24
        +2
        Yah?! Did "Maxim Gorky" take the sound?
        1. Lieutenant Izhe
          Lieutenant Izhe 7 June 2016 19: 44
          +18
          Yah?! Did "Maxim Gorky" take the sound?

          took it!
          like this - "Uuuuuuuuuu ..." wassat
      3. svp67
        svp67 8 June 2016 08: 17
        +7
        Quote: Paul1
        Yak3 did more, almost 600

        Not an option. On the Yak-3 youth was not put on the wing ...
        It is necessary to compare with the U-2, and it has a speed of 150 km / h

        With UT-2, at a speed of 205 km / h

        And of course with the Yak-18, at a speed of 263 km / h

        And the magnificent Yak-50 and 52 with a speed of just over 400 km / h

      4. iouris
        iouris 8 June 2016 15: 58
        +2
        The speed of the MiG-25 is generally almost 3M. So what? But on the basis of this, you can create an aero club in Lugansk.
    2. firefighter
      firefighter 7 June 2016 19: 22
      +1
      I wonder what are the terms of the contract?
      Announce your entire list ...
    3. In100gram
      In100gram 7 June 2016 20: 59
      +12
      Quote: Veteran's grandson
      lean manufacturing directors

      All this is the result of the introduction of Western standards for "quality management". In the Union, quality standards were abruptly at the enterprises of the military industry. Now we are introducing the finished USE and another Western hat. It's a shame when they destroy the best that was. I myself face this in the food industry. We have reached the level of complete disregard for food quality and the destruction of the food quality control system.
      1. masiya
        masiya 7 June 2016 22: 06
        +13
        All this quality management is - shit ... Western partners forced it on us, our quality was cooler all our life ... - Quality Control Department, military acceptance, etc., etc. he himself dealt with this manager on the piece of iron - it was nonsense, zero statistics and fixing something, for what purpose ... collecting papers collecting them in large folders and more ... as well as certification of security jobs labor - from the same opera only another, more expensive performance ... in general, one thieves have flourished in all industries, and there is no end in sight ... !!!
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 7 June 2016 22: 58
          +7
          Such an aircraft can be made "commercial". It is not enough that fans and fans of aviation - that market of rich Buratin (in the US, this will go with a bang - there are fans of such a modern "retro" behind the eyes, especially serial with spare parts, etc.)? And as a vehicle (2 seats) it will fit for some, if you organize everything with your head. After all, such an aircraft will be "inexpensive" (the cost of an elite jeep must be assumed) - some can afford to take it with a pilot (or maybe learn it themselves). Moreover, most likely, he can safely sit on the primer. Mail and any "ambulance" can be delivered anywhere in the Russian Federation, and cheaply. Operation should be cheaper than Mi and moreover in the most "wild" conditions - what is not a commodity for Euro-lovers and Yankees to fly (left right in the clearing and went).
          It's not enough for DOSAAF, but a desk is needed for the "youth". And as I understand it, this is the beginning of a long life of the aircraft (such thousands are needed and the price will become "scanty"). hi
          1. cap
            cap 8 June 2016 03: 36
            +1
            Quote: Kasym
            Mail and any "ambulance" can be delivered anywhere in the Russian Federation, and cheaply. Operation should be cheaper than Mi and moreover in the wildest conditions - what is not a commodity for Euro-lovers and Yankees to fly (left it right in the clearing and went).
            It's not enough for DOSAAF, but a desk is needed for the "youth". And as I understand it, this is the beginning of a long life of the aircraft (such thousands are needed and the price will become "scanty").


            Dreaming is certainly good. I will dream with you together. hi
          2. dauria
            dauria 8 June 2016 10: 35
            0
            - that market of rich buratin (in the US, this will go with a bang - there are fans of such a modern "retro" behind the eyes, especially serial with spare parts, etc.)?


            Have you decided to compete with the garage assembly of "Tsesna"? Look at their prices, cry ... These bourgeois filled the whole market with "instant noodles", even ready-made, even in the form of sets. However, under the condition of the Iron Curtain it can go.
          3. Val roman
            Val roman 9 June 2016 05: 44
            0
            But you still need to install your own engine!
    4. iouris
      iouris 8 June 2016 15: 56
      0
      Quote: Veteran's grandson
      lean manufacturing director

      This is a quality management system. The term Japanese, it can not be adequately translated into Russian for twenty years. But we make rockets ...
  2. something like
    something like 7 June 2016 18: 28
    +3
    GOOD NEWS
  3. avt
    avt 7 June 2016 18: 30
    +8
    Outwardly quite nice and diesel engine .... Austrian. But 150 will be too small. As before, DOSAAF would have been powerfully moved .... well, at least not like that. Cute airplane good
    1. Very old
      Very old 7 June 2016 18: 58
      +10
      I remember the Yak-18,52 - and even today they are here and there "on the wing"
      Yes, 150 cars are not enough for a huge country
      In addition, DOSAAF (I can’t get used to the new name) gets up from its knees
      1. firefighter
        firefighter 7 June 2016 19: 26
        +8
        Not so old, since DOSAAF remember a good word. The old ones are called OSAVIAHIM.
        1. Very old
          Very old 7 June 2016 19: 49
          +6
          OSAVIAHIM recalled my FATHER - with kind words good
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    2. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd 7 June 2016 19: 44
      +7
      Quote: avt
      Outwardly quite nice and diesel engine .... Austrian. But 150 will be too small. As before, DOSAAF would have been powerfully moved .... well, at least not like that. Cute airplane good

      Quote: avt
      Outwardly quite nice and diesel engine .... Austrian. But 150 will be too small. As before, DOSAAF would have been powerfully moved .... well, at least not like that. Cute airplane good

      In fact, DOSAF-format aircraft are desperately needed. Moreover, this business needs state support.
      As a sad example, my native Volgograd, in which Kacha used to be, and now not a single flying club. And by the way, there is not a single airline.
      I hope that while my little boys grow, everything will appear and they will be able to fly.
    3. aviator65
      aviator65 7 June 2016 22: 46
      +8
      The Yak-52 in Romania was riveted by hundreds of social integration. And there were no problems with production. As they say, the product was enough for everyone. Now to produce one and a half hundred training machines, moreover, initial training, for us is already a "milestone" in the domestic aircraft industry. There are as many as three cars (!) On the stocks at the plant. The pace of production of the Su-35, however!
  4. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 7 June 2016 18: 30
    0
    The ice has broken! I don’t feel like it, much attention is paid to the training of pilots, it is clear that the doctrine of the Russian Federation implies at least being on an equal footing with the United States, it seems more than one crew of the US destroyer will resign.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 7 June 2016 18: 40
      +6
      Already 150 pieces ??? So we are really moving towards the revival of DOSAAF !!! (or an analogue). It is good to flog parachutes on anoraks, it is high time to restore !!! Irkutsk orders are transferred from top to bottom through the holding. They wouldn’t have failed yet ... And so I welcome! And the plane is beautiful! It’s a pity that it’s too late, the plane was not created yesterday, but how many years did 52 work? And there is a younger business!
  5. weksha50
    weksha50 7 June 2016 18: 40
    +9
    Actually, opinions were already expressed at the VO that the flight control mechanism of the piston and jet aircraft is too different from each other ...

    Now the training aircraft in the Air Force-VKS are L-39 and Yak-130 ... And the Yak-152 would be very good for the development (return) of the network of flying clubs, as it was before with DOSAAF ...

    But in general, information carries a positive charge ...
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider 7 June 2016 19: 18
      -1
      Quote: weksha50
      And the Yak-152 would be very good for the development (return) of the network of flying clubs, as it was before with DOSAAF ...

      Quote: NDR-791
      Already 150 pieces ??? So we are really moving towards the revival of DOSAAF !!

      Quote: Very old
      Yes, 150 cars are not enough for a huge country
      In addition, DOSAAF (I can’t get used to the new name) gets up from its knees

      Quote: avt
      As before, DOSAAF would have been powerfully moved .... well, at least not like that.


      And what does the Yak-152 and DOSAAF. Or is the Yak-152 not a machine for the initial training of MILITARY pilots? recourse
      1. Very old
        Very old 7 June 2016 19: 55
        0
        Yes, and for the initial training of military pilots
        But for them, 130 is still better!
        School and university - well, very different levels
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 7 June 2016 21: 39
          +7
          Quote: Old very
          Yes, and for the initial training of military pilots
          But for them, 130 is still better!
          School and university - well, very different levels



          The first flight to do on the Yak-130? Are you crazy or what?

          The first flights should be done on a small light airplane in order to experience it alive. that the air is "alive" in fact, air flows feel, and not something transparent ...
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 8 June 2016 16: 36
            +3
            Quote: mav1971
            Quote: Old very
            Yes, and for the initial training of military pilots
            But for them, 130 is still better!
            School and university - well, very different levels



            The first flight to do on the Yak-130? Are you crazy or what?

            The first flights should be done on a small light airplane in order to experience it alive. that the air is "alive" in fact, air flows feel, and not something transparent ...

            Well, my elder, he sniffed the air on the TekhnameR2000, what is needed is better only if you would have sniffed the glider for the first time, but it didn’t work out that way.
            It’s hard to master flying clubs such as Teknam or Tsesna, but there’s no talk about yaki. We have yaks in Novonezhino, there are no funds at the flying club, as long as yak18 remains on the wing, and yes, 150.
      2. avt
        avt 8 June 2016 08: 40
        +2
        Quote: KnightRider
        And what does the Yak-152 and DOSAAF. Or is the Yak-152 not a machine for the initial training of MILITARY pilots?

        wassat Googel in Claudia and decipher the abbreviation OSOAVIAHIM / DOSAAF.
    2. firefighter
      firefighter 7 June 2016 19: 29
      0
      "information carries a positive charge .."
      Solid positive. Hooray!
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 7 June 2016 18: 42
    +1
    I understand complexes, not planes?
    The training complex is being developed by OAO Yakovlev Design Bureau under a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia to conduct development work on the development of a training complex for the initial flight training of pilots on the basis of a training aircraft for Yak-152 initial training under the cipher "birdie-air force." The training complex is based on the design of the Yak-152 training aircraft. In addition to the Yak-152 aircraft, the complex also includes a procedural simulator (“Special equipment”), training and computer classes (OJSC “Corporation“ Irkut ”), and a system of means for objective control (“ Topaz ”).
  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 June 2016 18: 43
    +1
    Since there is already a reserve, they will soon begin to issue. Cadets have been waiting for a presentation at 2014.
  8. vit
    vit 7 June 2016 18: 43
    +1
    quantity pleases! either more pilots began to be trained, or cadets would fly more often. I don’t even know which is better! smile
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 June 2016 18: 44
    0
    There will be little wato.
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider 7 June 2016 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      There will be little wato.

      Duc, this is the first but not the last contract!
  10. megafair
    megafair 7 June 2016 18: 44
    0
    That's right, in order to achieve the results that are described here in this article "Soviet aviation suffered the least losses in the Second World War of all the belligerent powers": http://topwar.ru/96391-sovetskaya-aviaciya-ponesla- naimenshie-poteri-vo-vtoroy-m
    irovoy-voyne-iz-vseh-voyuyuschih-derzhav.html

    It is also necessary to expand the training base.
  11. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 7 June 2016 18: 47
    +3
    Yamanov recalled that "the Yak-152 light training aircraft achieves speeds up to 350 kilometers per hour and has a catapult."
    Yakovlevites write that max. speed of 500 km / h.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 June 2016 19: 01
    +3
    Have you mastered Austrian diesel?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 7 June 2016 19: 16
      0
      There "the owner of Shumak" (Graze, Grazer?) Is not the last person at the plant. He will bring engines in his pocket without mastering!
    2. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 7 June 2016 19: 38
      +6
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Have you mastered Austrian diesel?

      With diesel, a different story. Developer - a citizen of Russia. The engine was created here, but he could open his own business only abroad.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 7 June 2016 20: 03
        +3
        However, the engine is registered in Austria, the company is also there, they are also physically produced in Austria. If the Anchor is recognized as sanctioned (yet the MO ordered) then there will be problems.
      2. iouris
        iouris 8 June 2016 23: 01
        +1
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        could open his own business only abroad

        That is the point. The engine is needed only here, and the rights abroad. The opinion of the developer, most likely, was not asked.
      3. Val roman
        Val roman 9 June 2016 05: 54
        0
        From this place can you read more?
        1. Val roman
          Val roman 9 June 2016 06: 01
          0
          And it’s not cheaper to return the developer’s specialist along with the rights to the engine and give him the opportunity to create other modifications, the Defense Ministry spent much more on Vasiliev and it’s all to no avail.
  13. Vitas
    Vitas 7 June 2016 19: 05
    +5
    Yak - 152, and ordered 150 cars. Where else 2 delhi ?! )))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 June 2016 20: 52
      0
      They did not fit into the procurement budget.
    2. Very old
      Very old 7 June 2016 21: 23
      0
      Ali do not know?
      These are the current realities ... wassat
  14. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 7 June 2016 19: 14
    +10
    ... message of the director of lean manufacturing of the enterprise Sergey Yamanov
    And this is the deputy director for negligence laughing
  15. Muvka
    Muvka 7 June 2016 19: 15
    0
    A little off topic, but about planes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxTXFAtw98
    Sorry I will sleep)
  16. da Vinci
    da Vinci 7 June 2016 19: 29
    +2
    But were there ready-made planes? How can I order planes without testing ?? what
  17. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 7 June 2016 20: 57
    -6
    Quote: Paul1
    Yak3 did more, almost 600


    "Stirlitz whipped nonsense. Screeching nonsense." This is she, SHOOT. He did not do 600, five-point in the ninth version, with acceleration, on a clean gasoline, otherwise the glider would have collapsed. Now what? "Messers" are not guys from the street either, but we had an Armored Train. Therefore, they are still alive.
  18. F751
    F751 7 June 2016 21: 38
    +3
    Quote: iliitch
    Quote: Paul1
    Yak3 did more, almost 600


    "Stirlitz whipped nonsense. Screeching nonsense." This is she, SHOOT. He did not do 600, five-point in the ninth version, with acceleration, on a clean gasoline, otherwise the glider would have collapsed. Now what? "Messers" are not guys from the street either, but we had an Armored Train. Therefore, they are still alive.

    Latest "mods" in diving 720 do you want to read the "manuals"
  19. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 7 June 2016 22: 15
    +6
    Whoever says anything, and such enterprises as in Irkutsk need to be raised with the help of the state and the order from the Moscow region for 150 YAK-152 is the first step. It is clear that the delivery dates were not specified, but no more than 5 years, I think, otherwise the whole point of government support for the aviation industry enterprise is lost. It is certainly sad that the Austrian engine, although invented by a Russian engineer, is worth it to us. This is our Achilles heel. Really cover with sanctions and an amba to the project. Until we find the right engine, so much water will leak. But to compare fighter Yak-3 (9) and training Yak-152 is absolutely not worth it, because the tasks are different. On one - beat the Nazis, on the other - put chicks on the wing. In my opinion, if you transfer from a kid from a tricycle to a sports car, he will also leave to the first pillar.
    And so everything is logical: YAK-152 - YAK-130 - MiG-35 ...
  20. Igor I.
    Igor I. 7 June 2016 23: 43
    +5
    Ah yes Raiklin, oh yeah son of a bitch! I finished it!
    True, the location, apparently, had to be changed: you can’t do anything with a German residence permit on the Russian front, did you have to dress the Austrian negligee?
    But what about earthly roots ??? Hockenheimring ??? Adenau ???
    _____________________________
    RED aircraft GmbH
    Am alten wehr 23
    D-53518 Adenau
    [email protected]
    _____________________________

    Had a personal chat, stayed with a nose ...
    But in general, his engine is wonderful! He already has them for years ... he will present:
    http://eng.tatar-inform.ru/news/2013/07/04/43263/

    Only now, before the aviation breakthrough, I watched it like a retro-styling - "hispano-suiza", "russo-balt". ... And he marked himself with a gearbox ... And he drove it under a diesel (or already under kerosene ???)

    In comparison with the M-14, a grand jerk ....
    PRICE !!!
    1. Igor I.
      Igor I. 8 June 2016 00: 01
      0
      Raiklin is a racer, not an aviator ... And his earthly motors are not suitable in the air ...

      But DOSAAFofskoy lobby with a weak Jewish contacts ... The rank is not the same, sorry ..
      MO here too - not that weight category ... Sorry again ..

      And so the former master rushes about in search of ...
      ... or the light at the end ...?
    2. Igor I.
      Igor I. 8 June 2016 01: 01
      0
      Raiklin is a racer, not an aviator ... And his earthly motors are not suitable in the air ...

      But DOSAAFofskoy lobby with a weak Jewish contacts ... The rank is not the same, sorry ..
      MO here too - not that weight category ... Sorry again ..

      And so the former master rushes about in search of ...
      ... or the light at the end ...?
  21. Igor I.
    Igor I. 8 June 2016 01: 03
    -1
    Raiklin is a racer, not an aviator ... And his earthly motors are not suitable in the air ...

    But DOSAAFofskoy lobby with a weak Jewish contacts ... The rank is not the same, sorry ..
    MO here too - not that weight category ... Sorry again ..

    And so the former master rushes about in search of ...
    ... or the light at the end ...?
  22. Sars
    Sars 8 June 2016 08: 25
    0
    Someone can say: why should the capacity of one of the busiest enterprises, in the conditions of army rearmament and possible hostilities with "Western partners", be diverted to the manufacture of aircraft that were previously produced in "bed workshops"? Let's start producing hang gliders at IAZ, because they are also needed for the initial training of future pilots.
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 8 June 2016 10: 26
      +2
      That's the trouble! The same Yak-52 successfully riveted in fraternal Romania, An-2 in Poland, from there they also planted the "Vilgi-35", and the Mi-2 too. Thanks to SEV! But their factories could not bother with this little thing, they provided both the Civil Air Fleet and the Air Force. And now they are trying to cram all possible nomenclature into one serial plant, from trainers to passenger and fighters. But at the same time, a bunch of directors were formed. Vaughn, and the director of "thrift" showed up. And probably there is also a director for economy, development, quality, personnel, etc. But there is no one to put on the conveyor ...
  23. Sars
    Sars 8 June 2016 10: 21
    +1
    The plane is necessary, but you need to find another production site for its release. Previously, equipment of this level was collected in "bed workshops". It is not appropriate to spray the Irkut base now.
  24. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 8 June 2016 11: 49
    0
    I think this aircraft is very necessary not only in the Russian Air Force, but also in DOSAF, deliveries must be made!
  25. I doubt it
    I doubt it 8 June 2016 14: 38
    0
    Almost certainly, according to the current liberal-capitalist reality, the contract has been stretched for 20 years.
    And then they will cut from 150 to 5. Budget, shortage, sequestration, optimization, "There is no money, but you hold on ...".
    And then there are the next sanctions to arrive. EC engine.
    And how much does it cost, this engine, does the "director of economic theft" know?
    "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched". Russian folk wisdom.
    When complete, then trumpet.
  26. Arikkhab
    Arikkhab 8 June 2016 15: 04
    +1
    interesting, but the Yak-152 has already passed flight tests, or immediately ordered a still flight aircraft?
  27. Whowhy
    Whowhy 8 June 2016 16: 21
    0
    Obviously the rear alignment, the absence of automatic slats - this is not a flying desk, but a flying coffin of some sort ... And he will not be able to fight helicopters (as they say in some places) due to poor maneuverability and the danger of falling into a flat corkscrew.
  28. geologist
    geologist 9 June 2016 10: 41
    0
    The Yak-3 was a plywood aircraft (russfaner) and at a maximum speed of 650 on a dive could crumble into sawdust, so the stronger metal fighters - Messera and Fokers preferred to avoid the threat at the peak, and at the beginning of the war the Germans preferred Of course, such nuggets of war as Vorozheikin could work miracles on the Yaks, but ordinary pilots were afraid of them ... Golubev, a thunderstorm of the German aces, did not consider Migi and Yaki fighters at all, since the I-16 was his dream machine, and then La-5fn.
  29. dep071
    dep071 9 June 2016 12: 10
    -3
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Misunderstanding something is happening in the order system of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    Why for MO, for the initial training of pilots, is an airplane of the past: a screw, piston aircraft with a speed of 300 km / h? What is it to replace the training aircraft of the era of jet aircraft L-39?

    In the training of military pilots of jet aircraft, the transition from L-39 training rocket desks to piston, screw YAK-152, with speeds several times slower, is a step backwards !!!
    What is nowhere to put money in Russia to produce a car of the past? There is no jet engine for a simple, easy, cheap single-engine training aircraft? So for the Yak-152 engine imported piston.
    What is the logic I do not understand? Or in the Moscow Region, the ladies of the Serdyukov shoots continue to sit on the system of orders for military equipment. Then, even as they were promoting as a training aircraft for the initial training of the Yak-130, I was surprised at the unreasonableness of that decision to create a complex, expensive, two-engine aircraft, as a training one, to replace the L-39. It seems that there are not specialists in the Defense Ministry, but budget "sawers" who care little about the needs of the Army.


    Are the armata-type tanks really needed by the army? new machines or replacement of "sand" is also a necessity? Let people learn to fly in such a clumsy way, as you described, and of course it is cheaper than on the MiG-29.
    1. Argon
      Argon 9 June 2016 23: 31
      +1
      I agree with you, but only in part. For the sake of objectivity, we note that the L-39 did not fully meet the requirements of the approved training cycles, flight and combat training of schools, which forced the use of combat training modifications of combat vehicles. The deepest delusion is to believe that the "desk" should be as light and cheap as possible, it should be as reliable as possible, as for MGH, the Yak-130 gets to the very "point" - this "platform" allows you to place a power plant on board that provides sufficient power-to-weight ratio, and its dimensions are minimal enough to talk about meteorological minima .And the situation in the press regarding the development of new light-class vehicles (in the interests of the Aerospace Forces) becomes somewhat clearer if we imagine that we are not talking about trainers but about "heavy" drones.
  30. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 9 June 2016 22: 37
    -1
    Today, these Yaks, tomorrow vertical take-off and landing planes are wagging over.
    L-39 We made friends with the allies and therefore this trough flies with us. And they could Migi and Drying, and with one engine and with three and twenty.
    MO just listened to you. What is needed, then they will be put to train pilots. Do not like it or problems will be replaced by others.
  31. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 10 June 2016 10: 06
    -1
    And its earthly motors are not suitable in the air ...

    I agree with this statement. IMHO need an aircraft engine. OWN! It works in completely different modes.
    And yet, for the INITIAL training aircraft, the tandem pilot landing scheme, in my opinion, is not suitable. Better as in the Yak-18T. In flight, the instructor can also make a terrible face and playful hands give, etc. And in the 152nd a lonely cadet will sit in the front cabin and listen to mats on SPU.
  32. Engineer
    Engineer 10 June 2016 15: 27
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    Quote: vladimirZ
    Why for MO, for the initial training of pilots, is an airplane of the past: a screw, piston aircraft with a speed of 300 km / h? What is it to replace the training aircraft of the era of jet aircraft L-39?


    So you came to the airport and immediately flew on a jet L-39? Have you ever flown a passenger? This is an airplane for initial training. For the first flights! I'm not talking about all kinds of flying clubs, where the jet L-39 has never been spawn.

    Quote: Aspeed
    I totally agree. Especially surprising is the solution in the presence of a ready-for-production CP-10


    "pilot" from the same opera.