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Vietnam may buy from the United States several repaired aircraft P-3 Orion

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According to Lockheed Martin, Hanoi is seriously considering buying a used P-3 Orion patrol aircraft, reports resource aseanmildef.com.




“This potential acquisition is viewed by Hanoi as a response to China’s growing military power. As expected, soon Vietnam will make an official request for the purchase of Orion planes from 4 to 6, ”writes a resource referring to a company representative.

Last month, Obama partially lifted the ban on selling Vietnam a lethal weapons. “However, any transaction must be carefully considered by the US government and lawmakers,” the publication says.

At the same time, the author notes that “Vietnam adjacent to China is considered by the Obama administration as a key part of efforts to balance the situation in Asia against the background of Beijing’s territorial claims.”

“If this deal is signed, the Orion aircraft will be removed from storage in the desert and equipped with new wings, equipment and weapons. The cost of one aircraft can range from 80 to 90 million. US dollars, “- says the resource. Such were the prices for the updated "Orions" set by Taiwan.

Modernization of the P-3 is being carried out at the Lockheed office in Georgia.
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  1. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 7 June 2016 15: 32
    +9
    The crumbs are picked up from the suzerain table. The Vietnamese are degrading. They just fought with the Yankees themselves, using Soviet-made best weapons at the time, and now they are preparing for the role of mongrels and gratefully accept their older brother’s well-worn pants.
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 7 June 2016 15: 41
      +1
      For what the United States did in Vietnam .. They should (give one machine and kneel ..), but Vietnam is not Israel ....
    2. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 7 June 2016 15: 42
      0
      "The cost of one aircraft can range from 80 to 90 million US dollars" "

      That's what I understand the sale of BU. How much did this Orion "from scratch" cost ??
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 7 June 2016 15: 55
        +2
        Quote: Grandson of Veteran
        "The cost of one aircraft can range from 80 to 90 million US dollars" "

        That's what I understand the sale of BU. How much did this Orion "from scratch" cost ??

        No matter what they say, the United States needs to learn how to carefully store military equipment - they’ll disturb you from the storage base in the desert, and pay a little money in your pocket.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 57
          +4
          Quote: razmik72
          out of the desert storage base

          The desert is an ideal place to store equipment, almost constant annual temperatures, low humidity.
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 7 June 2016 16: 02
            +3
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: razmik72
            out of the desert storage base

            The desert is an ideal place to store equipment, almost constant annual temperatures, low humidity.

            These Shtatniks are famous tricks. They make museums out of battleships, but keep them in such a state that they repair a little and the ship is ready for battle. The status of the museum brings them money and the ships cannot be dismantled.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 8 June 2016 02: 28
              +1
              Quote: razmik72
              They make museums out of battleships, but keep them in such a state that a little repair is made and the ship is ready for battle. The status of the museum brings them money and the ships cannot be dismantled.

              Sorry, but you write nonsense. You still cite the cruiser Aurora as an example of a "mothballed" ship. In order to keep the ship machines in working order, it is necessary to start them up and turn the shafts at least once a month. In their current form, American battleships are simply piles of metal of historical value.
              American battleships like "Iowa"
        2. Grandson of Veteran
          Grandson of Veteran 7 June 2016 16: 22
          0
          “No matter what they say, the United States needs to learn the careful storage of military equipment - they will outrage from the storage base in the desert, and some money will be patched up.
          Reply Quote Report violation of site rules "

          I agree, this cannot be taken away from them. I'm talking about something else, about the price. The cost of the "zero" device is interesting ...
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 7 June 2016 16: 53
      +4
      Do they have other options ??? Only the European crafts of Watermelon (CN-235 / С-295 in the patrol and PLO version), but Orion with Poseidon. There is nothing else on the market. And cheaper.

      They need PLO aircraft and they saved up money for the European version (especially since they already have C-295). But now, against the backdrop of warming, they ordered AWACS from Arbuz to save money, and the accumulated money will go to Orions.

      That is, for Viet, this is a very good deal. Receive and AWACS and PLO / Patrolnik.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 7 June 2016 17: 11
      -2
      a little more, and I’ll say: I’m not sorry for Vietnam ... and Afghan, and Libya and other stupid cutters, they apparently live according to the principle of "beats, then loves" is amazing ... "Stockholm syndrome" turns out to be really working ... to learn from this, the attraction of "unheard-of generosity" must stop, in the morning money, in the evening, chairs, just like that.
    5. Blondy
      Blondy 8 June 2016 09: 21
      0
      I wouldn’t water the Vietnamese so much until I answer the question: can Russia put the necessary things in the near future? Maybe that's why they are bought from amers, because we don’t have such free ones for sale, and indeed, anti-submarine aircraft, we still can’t boast of sufficient numbers.
  2. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 June 2016 15: 32
    +14
    MEN! Do not celebrate. I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Court tomorrow. They can be soldered for 5 years. Hoping for the best. Roma "banshee" Hello!
    1. dsm100
      dsm100 7 June 2016 15: 34
      +3
      For what 5 years then?
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 35
      0
      Quote: Barracuda
      I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Tomorrow's trial. They can solder for 5 years.

      What article?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 7 June 2016 15: 40
        +10
        115-121 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. He gave a pill to Western dill in a tattoo with swastikas, and he planted a knife, as taught. And jackals listened to conversations with Russia.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 43
          +11
          Quote: Barracuda
          115-121 Gave the pill to Western Dill in tattoo with swastikas. And jackals listened to conversations with Russia.

          Strength to you, my friend, patience and faith.
          1. Barakuda
            Barakuda 7 June 2016 15: 52
            +6
            The parcel would be if they put it. I did not want to run. I WILL EXIT - I WILL UNDERSTAND with specific persons.
        2. lukke
          lukke 7 June 2016 15: 51
          +6
          115-121 of the Criminal Code of Ukrviny. Gave pills to Western Dill in tattoos with swastikas, and put a knife. And jackals listened to conversations with Russia.
          Duc brought to us in Russia - still five years, the deadline, we can in a year Ukraine will be different, you will return as if nothing had happened ...
          1. Barakuda
            Barakuda 7 June 2016 15: 55
            +5
            I pushed this topic, train-bus even tomorrow before the trial. BUT WITHOUT DOCUMENTS and money, although I am thoroughly Russian. I'm a super-Tajik nobody. And Russian citizenship is "ordered" to me. What can the FMS do? I'm not even thinking about myself ..
            1. avt
              avt 7 June 2016 17: 01
              +3
              Quote: Barracuda
              I punched this topic, the train-bus at least tomorrow before the trial. BUT WITHOUT DOCUMENTS and money, even though I'm through and through Russian.

              Quote: Barracuda
              . What does the FMS do?

              FMS is no more, everything was transferred to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. On arrival, register as a political refugee. The case is muddy, but real, again you can break through in transit to the Donbass. But if you really do not want to run and decided to go to court, they will put you in prison.
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        4. siberalt
          siberalt 7 June 2016 16: 30
          0
          Articles separated by hyphens or commas? Two or seven? I sent you a personal message.
    3. just exp
      just exp 7 June 2016 15: 40
      +3
      because you don’t support kaklov?
      God help you, victory is always for the truth. but evil can specifically spoil health.
      I sincerely wish you good luck and that everything would work out fine.
    4. cap
      cap 7 June 2016 15: 59
      +1
      Quote: Barracuda
      MEN! Do not celebrate. I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Court tomorrow. They can be soldered for 5 years. Hoping for the best. Roma "banshee" Hello!


      And if through the DNI or LNR. They will not surrender theirs.
      It’s a pity if so. Maybe all is not lost?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 7 June 2016 16: 04
        +4
        That even Russian border guards, their mother, can wrap. I do not know what order they have there. I don’t need to carry the Russian flag, so other dill prik.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 7 June 2016 16: 11
        +3
        You haven’t run all your life. Correctly decided. Good luck in court!
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 33
    0
    “However, any transaction must be carefully considered by the US government and lawmakers.”

    In general, the rules that the US is trying to prescribe for the rest may or may not apply to states. smile
  4. newcomer
    newcomer 7 June 2016 15: 37
    +2
    that’s the turn. we need to force the restoration of the navy base in vietnam. and indeed, what these fools do not like our that and silt? or the purchase of amer's rusty corpses the result of “dash to dash”? if so, so they shove their whole cherzhavmet poor fellows.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 38
      +6
      Quote: newbie
      why do not we like our that and silt?

      And we have to fig planes PLO for sale? request
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 June 2016 15: 44
      +4
      Quote: newbie
      and indeed, what these fools do not like our that and silt?

      Do we have inexpensive Tu-142 or Il-38 from conservation, which we can quickly upgrade (by supplying a set of avionics comparable to the Orion) and sell to Vietnam?
      We have IL-38H make 5 machines in 3 of the year.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 8 June 2016 02: 38
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And we have inexpensive Tu-142 or IL-38 with conservation

        No. No. Was a couple of years ago in Nikolaevka, almost all cars were killed.
        Quote: Alexey RA
        We have IL-38H make 5 machines in 3 of the year.

        They are modernizing and obviously in insufficient quantities. An article three years ago, but with regard to naval aviation, the situation has not changed much.Naval Aviation of Russia. What's next?
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 7 June 2016 15: 42
    +2
    Vladimir, so order, we’ll do it.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 June 2016 15: 49
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      so order, we’ll do it.

      We don’t do them for ourselves, Tu-142 and IL-38 reach their resources.
  6. newcomer
    newcomer 7 June 2016 15: 53
    +2
    Alexey RA, no, what are you. Orion is so steep as to where ours is. I wonder how the USSR logti bit. I did not understand what is better than Orion, and how much time they need to deliver Vietnam from the desert_ modernization_ Vietnam. and why are we patrolling, poor, we are so behind. something like that in your opinion?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 June 2016 16: 29
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      Alexey RA, no, what are you. Orion is so steep as to where ours is. I wonder how the USSR logti bit. I did not understand what is better than Orion, and how much time they need to deliver Vietnam from the desert_ modernization_ Vietnam. and why are we patrolling, poor, we are so behind. something like that in your opinion?

      Unlike our Il-38 and Tu-142, the Orions were regularly upgraded.
      Our first serial IL-38N was commissioned in the summer of 2014. Prior to this, our PLO vehicles froze at the level of the late 80s of the last century.

      And most importantly, we do not have such a stock of more or less unused Il-38s. The very few - only 65 of them were made (an order of magnitude less than the Lockheed "Orions").
      And the mass production of the IL-38 has long been discontinued - even under the Lena-Brovenosets.
  7. Ruzina Natalia
    Ruzina Natalia 7 June 2016 16: 01
    -1
    This is called: "On you, God, that doesn't suit me." After all, it doesn't matter what to shove, just to push the Russians away.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 June 2016 16: 36
      +4
      Quote: Ruzina Natalya
      This is called: "On you, God, that doesn't suit me." After all, it doesn't matter what to shove, just to push the Russians away.

      This is Vietnam, not the Philippines. Here the customer decides. And if he is ready to buy "Orions" - then they are really the best available for him.

      There will be a reasonable alternative on our part - the Vietnamese will consider it.
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 7 June 2016 16: 05
    +2
    Vladimir, and a resource? about one for export gives two home. you must do it from scratch. Are you sure of the strength of the Orion resource from storage?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 June 2016 16: 11
      +4
      Quote: newbie
      about one for export gives two home. you must do it from scratch.

      What are you talking about? belay Tu-142 is Tu-95, when was the last glider made? How much does it cost to resume production? request IL-38 (IL-18) how many do not? How much does it cost to resume production? And how long will it take? Does Vietnam agree to wait if he needs airplanes yesterday? We do not have modern PLO aircraft.
      Quote: newbie
      Are you sure of the strength of the Orion resource from storage?

      Am I serving a US storage base? What can I be sure of? I am sure that we have nothing to offer Vietnam. ourselves are missing. yes
  9. newcomer
    newcomer 7 June 2016 16: 23
    +2
    Vladimir, in this case, we missed. when you need to do something, we have an excuse: when was it ?! in this case, we will yawn and shout. the Yankees put them on a needle. we are unlikely to remove them from there already.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 7 June 2016 17: 02
      +2
      The flies now in the market choose:
      1) Transport workers, they have 3 C-295 (one of them is being remade in AWACS), and 10-12 boards are voiced. Used Hercules may well be ordered.
      2) Patrol ships - which are borderline. They have been choosing for two years already, even the Australian watched.
      3) PLO / patrolmen - well, here is the used Orion favorite.
      4) Tanks - but there was news about the T-90MS. In general, this is a long-playing one, they will still choose 1,5-2 of the year.

      As for the needle, during Obama's visit, they ordered Boeings for 11 billion dollars:
      Boeing (BA) Scores $ 11.3B Order For 100 B737Max200 Airplanes From Vietnam's VietJet Air

      Plus, American companies open production in Vietnam, even Intel is already there and is increasing the production of processors.
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 June 2016 16: 57
    0
    And how will this junk help Vietnam respond to China's growing military power? what Dark and incomprehensible.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 June 2016 17: 43
    -1
    And if the stripes get something there, then there will be a good scout, and the information will go to yourself and the striped. Lyapota, and even for my money.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 June 2016 17: 09
      0
      Well, and who is such a minus, why are you hiding?
  12. Lex.
    Lex. 7 June 2016 17: 45
    +1
    Oh, how a caftan from a gentleman's shoulder
  13. Old26
    Old26 7 June 2016 22: 15
    +3
    Quote: Veteran's grandson
    That's what I understand the sale of BU. How much did this Orion "from scratch" cost ??

    At 1987 prices, $ 36 million

    Quote: newbie
    that’s the turn. we need to force the restoration of the navy base in vietnam. and indeed, what these fools do not like our that and silt?

    Do we have them, ILs and TUs in the version of PLO and AWACS? For conservation, for example? And when did the same Ilov and TU stop production? And how much time does it take to restore production? How many stands and is it necessary to restore the production of precisely these machines?

    IL-38 was built 65 sides. Now 51 vehicles remain in service. The Americans built 650 cars. Plus the Japanese 107. Total 757. So you can understand the Vietnamese. They buy from the one who sells. We cannot sell them

    Quote: newbie
    Vladimir, so order, we’ll do it.

    Yes? Where and when?
  14. Vivan
    Vivan 8 June 2016 12: 57
    0
    Quote: tiredwithall
    The crumbs are picked up from the suzerain table. The Vietnamese are degrading. They just fought with the Yankees themselves, using Soviet-made best weapons at the time, and now they are preparing for the role of mongrels and gratefully accept their older brother’s well-worn pants.

    I beg you, moderate the dust of your anger. And be objective in your opinions. The logic “if you buy goods from my enemy means you are bad” is at least primitive.
    Vietnam is on the side of Russia in matters of Ukraine, Europe and Syria and wishes the United States to be defeated on these fronts. The Vietnamese remember the help of the USSR in the war against the United States and now treat Russia with gratitude. However, at the same time, the Vietnamese are well aware that if there is a war with China, Russia can no longer help. And the United States can. At least a weapon. We will not buy anything horrible, but selectively, deliberately. And here is some advantage of American weapons - the Chinese do not know its characteristics. And the Chinese know about our Su-30MKV2, S-300 and Varshavyanka submarines no worse than ourselves.