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The construction of the Chinese aircraft carrier advances at an accelerated pace

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Recent images from space show that the construction of an aircraft carrier in Dalian (Liaoning Province, China) is progressing at an accelerated pace, reports the publication AllSource Analsys.




“The aircraft carrier is built on a modular basis. If this speed of construction will be maintained, the hull of the ship will be completed at the beginning of 2017 of the year, ”the word source of its source gives.

However, “complete fine-tuning and saturation of equipment can take several years,” the source added.

The publication notes that “the construction of an aircraft carrier indicates the presence in China of a global maritime strategy and the desire to improve the country's military image abroad.”

According to unofficial data, China intends to build an 3 of such a ship.



“The ship’s displacement will be approximately 50-60 KT. Probably the aircraft carrier will have a springboard for taking off the aircraft and an aerofinisher, like on the Liaoning ship - the completed Ukrainian Varyag,” the publication said.


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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 7 June 2016 15: 03
    +11
    Recent images from space show

    Soon, according to images from space, it will be possible to observe the beds in the country smile
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 7 June 2016 15: 07
      +4
      And as for the topic, I can’t understand why China needs these aircraft carriers. Maybe they began to prepare for colonial wars?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 7 June 2016 15: 10
        +31
        To squeeze the disputed zone from the Japanese, to squeeze the disputed zone from the Philippines, to squeeze the disputed zone from Vietnam.

        Also, China wants to become the dominant military force in the Asia-Pacific region, squeezing out Americans.
        1. jaguar
          jaguar 7 June 2016 15: 51
          +17
          To squeeze the disputed zone from the Japanese, to squeeze the disputed zone from the Philippines, to squeeze the disputed zone from Vietnam.

          Also, China wants to become the dominant military force in the Asia-Pacific region, squeezing out Americans. I add a little .. many Chinese firms and companies are based in Africa .... to protect their interests in general.
          1. avt
            avt 7 June 2016 16: 56
            +7
            Quote: jaguar
            Also, China wants to become the dominant military force in the Asia-Pacific region, squeezing out Americans.

            They will go to Africa and feel free to add the Indian okyan here. By the way, in Antarctica, they turned out not like a child. It's funny, but they already reached Ceylon even when Vaska da Gama was quietly sniffing and ....... the new emperor ruined everything - he even burned the shipyard, that's how he "optimized costs" - was found at he also has his own Kudrin and the Higher School of Economics enough to justify. ”Otherwise, there would be a question of whose India would be a colony - Portuguese with Angdes, or Chinese.
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 7 June 2016 15: 38
        +12
        Quote: tiredwithall
        And as for the topic, I can’t understand why China needs these aircraft carriers. Maybe they began to prepare for colonial wars?

        China is a sea power, trading. Plus a lot of problems with neighbors on the eastern and southern borders.
        And, in the long term, the struggle for "world domination" with the United States.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 7 June 2016 15: 43
          +4
          Quote: Odyssey
          Quote: tiredwithall
          And as for the topic, I can’t understand why China needs these aircraft carriers. Maybe they began to prepare for colonial wars?

          China is a sea power, trading. Plus a lot of problems with neighbors on the eastern and southern borders.
          And, in the long term, the struggle for "world domination" with the United States.

          Keyword "Borders". Aircraft carriers are needed for war on the other side of the world. But not with border countries.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 7 June 2016 15: 56
            +4
            Quote: Muvka
            Carriers are needed for war on the other side of the world.

            Wait, there will be wars on the other side of the world.
            "Give only a time limit,
            There will be a squirrel for you, there will be a whistle! "
            Quote: Muvka
            But not with the border countries.

            There is a disputed area at sea. Above donavi49 wrote.
          2. 34 region
            34 region 7 June 2016 16: 11
            +7
            Movie! 15.43. If they have economic interests in Africa, why can't they be defended by military force? It’s only we who, for whatever interests, were greeting us. And they will surely support regimes loyal to them. They need a stable development of the country. With world capitalism this is not possible. Surely they will continue to build up their army, their military bases at an accelerated pace, maintain regimes loyal to them and give them loans to buy their goods. Well done! This is government policy!
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 7 June 2016 20: 45
              +3
              Quote: Region 34
              they will continue to build up their army, their military bases at an accelerated pace, maintain regimes loyal to them and give them loans to buy their goods.

              To do all this, a thriving economy is needed, growing at a rate of 6-7% per year. Today, China is the 2-th country in terms of economic power in the world.
              The USSR could also afford this when it occupied the 2 line.
              We have much to strive for: "back to the future!"
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 June 2016 15: 54
        +6
        The construction of the Chinese aircraft carrier advances at an accelerated pace

        By the fact that the Chinese do not argue among themselves, it is necessary / not necessary, but they are doing it. What can I say, well done! Soon the Americans will trample from the South China Sea!
      4. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 7 June 2016 15: 57
        +7
        China was going to squeeze the Pacific Ocean from the fenders .. In principle, it is possible, there all the resources and the Chinese correctly use them
        1. Leto
          Leto 7 June 2016 18: 50
          -4
          Quote: dmi.pris
          China was going to squeeze the Pacific Ocean from the fenders .. In principle, it is possible, there all the resources and the Chinese correctly use them

          To smoke Americans with Pacific Fleet, you first need to smoke them from the Philippines, Japan, clean Hawaii, and this is impossible without a global war.
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 June 2016 16: 01
        +2
        The ship's displacement will be approximately 50-60 thousand tons, probably the aircraft carrier will have a springboard for take-off aircraft

        The normal displacement for ships of this type is in the region of 80 thousand tons. Then a springboard is not needed. What directly affects the combat capabilities of the wing is the maximum possible loading of ammunition and fuel when taking off from the deck! The presence of a springboard cuts into 2 these key indicators.
        1. spravochnik
          spravochnik 8 June 2016 11: 13
          0
          The normal displacement for ships of this type is in the region of 80 thousand tons. Then a springboard is not needed. What directly affects the combat capabilities of the wing is the maximum possible loading of ammunition and fuel when taking off from the deck! The presence of a springboard cuts into 2 these key indicators.


          And what is the relationship between displacement and springboard. The British considered their new "queens" (60 kilotons) in various ways: with a springboard, with a catapult. The first variants of project 11435 and its analogue of project 1153 were also equipped with catapults.
      6. Ronino
        Ronino 7 June 2016 16: 20
        +6
        When you are called a threat, your hands themselves will reach for tools for building such toys.
      7. alexmach
        alexmach 7 June 2016 22: 23
        +2
        The sea is the lion's share of freight traffic on the planet. Who controls the sea (with his 11 aircraft carriers) controls global trade
      8. Bongo
        Bongo 8 June 2016 02: 13
        +1
        Quote: tiredwithall
        And as for the topic, I can’t understand why China needs these aircraft carriers. Maybe they began to prepare for colonial wars?

        The capabilities of the PLA Navy to combat carrier strike groups.
    2. Lieutenant Izhe
      Lieutenant Izhe 7 June 2016 15: 08
      +2
      Soon, according to images from space, it will be possible to observe the beds in the country

      So, for the father’s grains for a long time (from space) watching! wassat
    3. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 7 June 2016 15: 09
      +6
      The beds are time to plant on the moon for a long time === there are less weeds and pests than in the country and do not steal recourse
      As for the aircraft carriers, the Chinese first need to put things in order on their shore, and then they will visit Africa or South America to pay a visit: how are their investments, if anyone is pampering, or if the partners are being impudent. Air cover for such military tourism will be just right.
    4. Sergey777
      Sergey777 7 June 2016 18: 00
      +3
      Quote: Thrall
      Thrall BY Today, 15:03 PM

      Recent images from space show

      Soon, according to images from space, it will be possible to observe the beds in the country house :)



      Do not believe it is already possible!
  2. dsm100
    dsm100 7 June 2016 15: 06
    +9
    Well done Chinese, for them there are no impossible projects. Walking with leaps and bounds.
  3. AID.S
    AID.S 7 June 2016 15: 12
    +8
    Chinese 3D printer in action. Envy. Observe.
  4. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 7 June 2016 15: 13
    +8
    30 years ago, only Isaac Asimov could have predicted such a thing in his fantastic blockbuster ... that China will today be what it is.
  5. alex80
    alex80 7 June 2016 15: 14
    -6
    I carefully looked at the layout, then in the satellite photo, but still didn’t understand
    which part of the aircraft carrier is depicted in the photo request
    What kind of module are they building with such a sharp nose that should be part of an aircraft carrier !?
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 7 June 2016 15: 19
      +15
      This is a ship, it must "cut" the wave with a sharp nose, that's why it is sharp in the photo in the article, and there will already be a flight deck above it.
  6. Marlen
    Marlen 7 June 2016 15: 15
    +5
    With the pace of China's development, soon the United States will fly into space on Chinese missiles.
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 7 June 2016 15: 16
    +8
    We shout left and right that these are weapons of imperialism, intimidation and geopolitical influence, moreover, they are no longer relevant and the maximum is suitable for the fight against banana republics. But the Chinese, apparently, do not know about it and slowly, or rather, at an accelerated pace, are building their aircraft carrier fleet. And the most interesting thing is that the Chinese are copying the best samples, and here they chose the Soviet ones: they started with the Kiev class, followed by the likes of Ulyanovsk, and then their original project. If everything is clear with Kiev - they got ours almost ready and are building on its basis, then Ulyanovsk is already very different and they could get the documentation on it only from the Slav brothers, and that is unlikely.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 June 2016 15: 32
      +5
      "And the most interesting thing is that the Chinese copy the best samples and here they chose the Soviet ones: they started with the Kiev class" ////

      I think it’s just that the catapult wasn’t able to steal or
      to develop
      1. 34 region
        34 region 7 June 2016 16: 18
        -3
        Warrior! 15.32. Why do they need a catapult? Extra place, weight. How does it work in sub-zero temperatures? It seems like a steam (consider a steam locomotive), and not electromagnetic.
      2. spravochnik
        spravochnik 8 June 2016 11: 17
        +1
        I think it’s just that the catapult wasn’t able to steal or
        to develop

        They are already testing electromagnetic.
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    3. Odysseus
      Odysseus 7 June 2016 15: 33
      +7
      Quote: Engineer
      We shout left and right that these are weapons of imperialism, intimidation and geopolitical influence, moreover, they are no longer relevant and the maximum is suitable for the fight against banana republics. But the Chinese, apparently, I don’t know about, and slowly, or rather, at an accelerated pace, they are building their aircraft carrier fleet

      Well, this is rhetoric. The truth is simple - as far as Russia does not need aircraft carriers, they are just as much needed by modern China.
      Quote: Engineer
      And the most interesting thing is that the Chinese are copying the best samples, and here they chose the Soviet ones: they started with the Kiev class, followed by the likes of Ulyanovsk, and then their original project.

      They first copied what they were able to reach. More recently, for them, Varyag was space technology.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 7 June 2016 16: 20
        +3
        Odysseus! 15.33. And what (who) prevents us from copying the best? We are not even able to copy good roads. And the Chinese can. About the rest, you can not mention.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 June 2016 09: 52
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      And the most interesting thing is that the Chinese are copying the best samples, and here they chose the Soviet ones: they started from the Kiev class,

      Dear Engineer, how sad it is to admit, but Soviet aircraft carriers are not even Aircraft Carriers. Therefore, calling them the best ships of this class is at least not smart. It's just that the Chinese, like us, were denied access to such technologies. And they use what is available, that is, the remnants of Soviet developments and what they were able to buy from us in the 90s "on pins and needles". Well, they add their own there. What they get, we'll see soon. And it's time for us to start moving in this direction too. So that later in the fire rhythm not to catch up (which has happened more than once).
      1. spravochnik
        spravochnik 8 June 2016 11: 19
        +1
        It is unfortunate, but 11435 are aircraft carriers. If not, then the new British are not aircraft carriers. What is your criterion?
  8. CORNET
    CORNET 7 June 2016 15: 23
    +4
    Well done, the Chinese .... I can’t say anything else! hi
  9. Signaller
    Signaller 7 June 2016 15: 24
    -5
    If we talk about the fact that China is our ally and friend for centuries on a good journey. And if something goes wrong ????. I think our specialists are also present there. Experience is gained. Like "Train on cats." Maybe this is the homespun truth. Well, wait and see. Our fleet is not puzzled yet, but I think that there will be an application, there will be a shipyard and a project. And there, based on the experience of the Chinese, we will create our own faster sneeze. Just lay down the metal cutting program and the ship is already in your pocket-type hull-, which is the main thing in the ship.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 7 June 2016 16: 24
      +5
      Signalman! 15.24. Not so simple. For construction it is necessary: ​​financing, workshops, equipment, personnel, technology. Do we have all this?
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 June 2016 09: 56
        +1
        Quote: 34 region
        Signalman! 15.24. Not so simple. For construction it is necessary: ​​financing, workshops, equipment, personnel, technology. Do we have all this?

        There is. On the Zvezdochka from 2 docks, one 70/400 meters are already doing.
        And yet, stop boring and whining! It is necessary to take an example from the Chinese! And then we will sit and chew snot.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 7 June 2016 21: 29
      +1
      Quote: Signaller
      All you have to do is to lay out a metal cutting program and the ship is already in your pocket-type hull, which is the main thing in the ship.

      The main thing in the ship is weapons! For what, in fact, it is created.
      And the main body can be in ships, and landing ships. Where the main weapon is deadweight!
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 June 2016 10: 05
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: Signaller
        All you have to do is to lay out a metal cutting program and the ship is already in your pocket-type hull, which is the main thing in the ship.

        The main thing in the ship is weapons! For what, in fact, it is created.
        And the main body can be in ships, and landing ships. Where the main weapon is deadweight!

        Aircraft carrier is not a simple ship!
        His main weapon is a manned air group. Here some write (like why the catapult is overweight! lol ), people do not understand that the presence of a catapult = the maximum combat load of an aircraft in any sea conditions. A short deck and springboard = 1/2 of the fuel and weapons when taking off from the deck. That's all arithmetic.
        The Americans are not stupid, they have extensive experience in the construction and operation of such ships. All of their aircraft carriers are atomic, devoid of a springboard and have catapults.
  10. pts-m
    pts-m 7 June 2016 15: 28
    +1
    Cool steamer! Another of the Chinese wonders of the world, after the Great Wall of China! Good luck in mastering!
  11. Odysseus
    Odysseus 7 June 2016 15: 29
    +5
    They will complete it by 2019. It’s only doubtful that they will build 3 60 thousandths of a thousand. One a la our Varyag, then, it would seem, they would like to build 90 thousandths. It’s only a question of whether they can immediately transfer to nuclear aircraft carriers.
  12. NordUral
    NordUral 7 June 2016 15: 30
    +2
    In reproach to our balabol (this does not apply to real specialists). And that does not mean. that we also need to rush to build AUGs, not afford it, and there is no need so far. The only good news is that all the equipment is so recognizably dear, Soviet silhouettes.
  13. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 June 2016 15: 31
    +8
    MEN! Do not celebrate. I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Court tomorrow. They can be soldered for 5 years. Hoping for the best. Roma "banshee" Hello!
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 7 June 2016 16: 03
      +2
      MEN! Do not celebrate. I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Court tomorrow. They can be soldered for 5 years. Hoping for the best. Roma "banshee" Hello!


      Have you already signed up? Maybe it's not too late to Russia?
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 7 June 2016 16: 51
      +6
      "BARAKUDA", RVI CLAWS IN DONBASS - THERE WILL BE ACCEPTED OR IN THE ROSTOV REGION. IN ANY CASE DO NOT PASSION IN THE CELL, IF WHAT.
    3. corporal
      corporal 8 June 2016 02: 22
      +2
      Barracuda, get out !!! You cannot find the truth in your court!
  14. vasdel
    vasdel 7 June 2016 15: 34
    +3
    The Americans are alarmed (US Navy launches six aircraft carriers for the first time in four years ) https://lenta.ru/news/2016/06/07/carriers/
  15. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 7 June 2016 15: 35
    0
    Quote: Barracuda
    MEN! Do not celebrate. I added .. I was on the site and by phone. Court tomorrow. They can be soldered for 5 years. Hoping for the best. Roma "banshee" Hello!


    In terms of?!
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 7 June 2016 17: 00
      +4
      The peasants have been subpoenaed under a signature and appearing in court for communication with the Kremlin, and they will also prove, but we can, but infection at the shpigun. SBU does not sleep. It seems that he needs to do his legs at night in an unknown direction, otherwise he will not be exchanged for the second Nadia Savchenko.
  16. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 7 June 2016 15: 41
    +3
    that the construction of an aircraft carrier in Dalian (Liaoning Province, PRC)
    Yes, there was the port of Dalniy, now Dalian.
  17. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 7 June 2016 16: 04
    +4
    The Chinese in this regard are certainly well done. Consistently moving along its line. They said - we need aircraft carriers, do aircraft carriers. For the Japs and the Philippines, it’s enough for themselves. The main thing is to stay longer as our allies.
    1. Buffet
      Buffet 7 June 2016 16: 20
      +1
      "As long as allies" and allies as long as our interests and theirs coincide. And as the United States is driven from its shores, so will everyone ... No longer allies.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 7 June 2016 21: 43
        +3
        Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
        And just as the United States will be driven out of its shores, that’s all ... No longer allies.

        "STE how, your mother,
        Will you order me to understand? "L. Filatov

        Tell me, plz! WHO IS GOING TO KICK THE USA FROM THEIR SHORES? belay

        Maybe they will still "drive out" the Yankees from overseas territories, liquidate their bases in the Philippines, in Japan, maybe on Guam, so it has the status of an unincorporated organized territory of the United States (that is, not part of the United States, but being their possession). yes
  18. Rosty
    Rosty 7 June 2016 16: 36
    +5
    Quote: Region 34
    We shout left and right that these are weapons of imperialism, intimidation and geopolitical influence, moreover, they are no longer relevant and the maximum is suitable for the fight against banana republics. But the Chinese, apparently, do not know about it and slowly, or rather, at an accelerated pace, are building their aircraft carrier fleet. And the most interesting thing is that the Chinese are copying the best samples, and here they chose the Soviet ones: they started with the Kiev class, followed by the likes of Ulyanovsk, and then their original project. If everything is clear with Kiev - they got ours almost ready and are building on its basis, then Ulyanovsk is already very different and they could get the documentation on it only from the Slav brothers, and that is unlikely.


    China, along with Korea, is the largest shipbuilder in the world. Look at the southeast coast - it looks like a comb because of the slipways on which bulk carriers are assembled. Block assembly technology, which is now used in the construction of an aircraft carrier, has long been mastered. Conversion is the other way around. And we have....
  19. demiurg
    demiurg 7 June 2016 16: 53
    +2
    Their economy is many times more powerful than ours. They are already completing an escort for aircraft carriers. And it seems like in plans 2 for 60000, 2 for 80000, and 2 for 100000 tons.
    They have 70 percent of the population living 200-300 kilometers from the sea, and the same number of industries there. They must have a powerful fleet in order to protect this.
  20. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 7 June 2016 17: 11
    +1
    build well, fast. our Chinese would not even think of ordering such boats.
  21. Stena
    Stena 7 June 2016 17: 19
    +2
    From the heading "Amazing Nearby":
    "The displacement of the ship will be about 50-60 thousand tons, probably, the aircraft carrier will have a springboard for taking off planes and an aerofinisher, as on the Liaoning ship, the completed Ukrainian Varyag," the newspaper reports.
    And sho - "Varyag" is really Ukrainian?
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 7 June 2016 19: 12
      +2
      Soviet ... Remained unfinished at the Nikolaev shipyards, in the aftermath it was sold to the Chinese as scrap. But they successfully completed this scrap.
  22. Skubudu
    Skubudu 7 June 2016 17: 28
    0
    I do not believe the Chinese.
  23. cedar
    cedar 7 June 2016 17: 58
    +2
    Quote: Odyssey
    Quote: tiredwithall
    And as for the topic, I do not understand Why China these aircraft carriers. Maybe they began to prepare for colonial wars?

    China is a sea power, trading. Plus a lot of problems with neighbors on the eastern and southern borders.
    And, in the long term, the struggle for "world domination" with the United States.


    This is no longer a prospect. This is reality. China’s GDP is already larger than the US’s GDP. Especially taking into account the fact that most of it in the USA falls on financially speculative, essentially virtual, i.e. inflated part of it.
    The global economy is 3 (three!)% Provided with real world currency, the rest of it is 97% virtual, digital, taking place in computers, not in wallets! And this world currency is the dollar. For a hundred years the Fed printed so much of this green that the dollar in fact depreciated to the cost of the paper and ink that goes to print it!
    The question is, why is he careless that all the countries of the world take him in great demand? First of all, the military power of the United States, military bases around the world located in most countries, where the bankocrats have interests to foist their "beads" on the natives, that is. bucks, for their "gold" i.e. resources.
    And the carriers here are even a very weighty argument in providing the dollar with convincing power.
    However, the horse has worn out morally in a hundred years, it’s time to change it to a new horse.
    It is highly likely that the bankocrats are doing the yuan. Accordingly, with all other advantages, the renminbi will need reliance on the military forces of the PLA and the Navy (the military budget of China is growing by leaps and bounds), and the AUG will be very useful not only in regional disassemblies, but also to demonstrate the renminbi's strength and build confidence and respect for the new world currency ... See the root!
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 June 2016 18: 06
      +2
      Quote: cedar
      This is no longer a prospect. This is reality. China’s GDP is already larger than the US’s GDP.

      less
      Quote: cedar
      Especially taking into account the fact that most of it in the USA falls on financially speculative, essentially virtual, i.e. inflated part of it.

      Tales
      Quote: cedar
      The global economy is 3 (three!)% Provided with real world currency

      What is the real world currency?
      Quote: cedar
      its steel part is 97% virtual, digital, taking place in computers, not in wallets!

      Of course, you have the same part of the money in your account, not in your wallet
      Quote: cedar
      And this world currency is the dollar. For a hundred years the Fed printed so much of this green that the dollar in fact depreciated to the cost of the paper and ink that goes to print it!

      What are you saying ? And I thought for him they give 65 rubles .-- for one !!!

      Quote: cedar
      The question is, why is he careless that all the countries of the world take him in great demand?

      Real assets
      Quote: cedar
      First of all, the military power of the United States, military bases around the world located in most countries, where the bankocrats have interests to foist their "beads" on the natives, that is. bucks, for their "gold" i.e. resources.

      Storyteller.
      Quote: cedar
      And the carriers here are even a very weighty argument in providing the dollar with convincing power.

      I didn’t see that in Russia aircraft carriers would push dollars for rubles

      Quote: cedar
      It is highly likely that the bankocrats make the yuan

      Yuan, after devaluations and the fall of the exchange (China) by 30% - well, you give my friend laughing
      Quote: cedar
      . Accordingly, with all other advantages, the renminbi will need reliance on the military forces of the PLA and the Navy (the military budget of China is growing by leaps and bounds), and the AUG will be very

      And now, will the yuan be carried by aircraft carriers? wink
      Quote: cedar
      . See the root!

      With a finger in the sky - more precisely, you can say about your opus hi
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 7 June 2016 22: 26
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        With a finger in the sky - more precisely, you can say about your opus

        Namesake! Stop making fun of the "illiquid"!
        And it turns out like in the picture (in the sense of a roller on Comrade Cedar!)
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 7 June 2016 21: 17
      +2
      Quote: cedar
      This is no longer a prospect. This is reality.

      Without even getting into the economic side of the issue and your dispute with atalef, I will note that in order to claim "world domination" it is not enough to produce much or have the first GDP in the world. It is necessary to write the rules of the game for world politics and economics and, accordingly, you need to have tools for this creation of the rules of the game, both military and ideological, economic, etc.
      The PRC so far does not possess these tools, moreover, from a purely military point of view, the PRC is in the ring of American military bases and so far cannot even reunite with Taiwan (it does not matter in a peaceful or military way).
      So for now, for the PRC, the "struggle for world domination" is only a prospect. By the way, they themselves assess their capabilities very modestly and, in particular, talk about plans to create the strongest fleet in the world only by 2050.
  24. demiurg
    demiurg 7 June 2016 18: 15
    +5
    Quote: atalef



    The state should give every old man
    sixty years old, two hundred dollars a month, with the condition that
    he definitely spent this money. Then the purchasing power of the population
    will increase in unprecedented proportions and the crisis will end immediately. At the same time
    old people will live a wonderful good life. Everything is clear and simple. How is it all
    will be - not so important. Old people to such an extent want to receive
    two hundred dollars a month, and the young ones so want the crisis to end and they
    finally get a job that they would love to believe everything. Townsend
    the inventor of this miracle cure, in the shortest possible time conquered
    millions of ardent adherents.

    Ilf and Petrov, One-story America.

    In 1936, it seemed, it seemed wild. Give out money to improve performance. And now they give out money (quantitative easing), and this is considered the norm. The world is crazy, but we don’t notice it.
    What America produces is real (we will drop services and finances, we will leave production for at least something, at least for cinema). The fact that you can touch (again, silicone breasts will not be considered, they are not given to everyone to touch)
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 June 2016 18: 23
      -1
      Quote: demiurg
      In 1936, it seemed, it seemed wild. Give out money to improve performance. And now they give out money (quantitative easing), and this is considered the norm.

      many things that were not understood then are absolutely normal today. In 1936 in America there were no pensions for the bulk of the population

      Quote: demiurg
      What America produces is real (we will drop services and finances, we will leave production for at least something, at least for cinema).

      cars . airplanes. ships. electronics, cx industry. they produce more oil and gas than Russia, space, software, etc., etc. - Tell me, is it wrong?
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 7 June 2016 19: 20
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        cars . airplanes. ships. electronics

        How much? And how many were released, let’s say in 1989?
        Quote: atalef
        produce more oil and gas than Russia

        This is generally not true ...
        Quote: atalef
        cx industry

        Well, let's say ... But they have big problems with the markets.
        Here they enter:
        Quote: atalef
        airplanes. ships

        And bloodthirsty, bloodthirsty ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 7 June 2016 21: 02
          -2
          Quote: Observer 33
          How much? And how many were released, let’s say in 1989?

          And what does it matter? The structure of the economy has changed. look at Yu. Korea and compare what she released in the 90s and what now.
          Production went to the high-tech segment
          Quote: Observer 33
          This is generally not true ...

          For the first time since 1975, the United States took first place in the world in oil production, leaving behind both Russia and Saudi Arabia, BP said in the authoritative statistical yearbook Statistical Review of World Energy 2015

          Read more at RBC:
          http://www.rbc.ru/economics/10/06/2015/557836e09a79471e936aebed

          and this is for gas
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%
          D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80
          %D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0
          Quote: Observer 33
          Well, let's say ... But they have big problems with the markets.
          Here they enter:

          No need to say, and no need about markets - America provides itself with \ x products and sells itself - we are talking about that. that America is producing something? And then there are tales about the exaggerated economy
          Quote: Observer 33
          And bloodthirsty, bloodthirsty ...

          Or is it the same in China?
          Less fairy tales - the state economy is strong and real.
  25. Sergey333
    Sergey333 7 June 2016 18: 18
    0
    Quote: Thrall
    Soon, according to images from space, it will be possible to observe the beds in the country

    That's right, I found a lost ball on the roof of my garage from a picture from space.
  26. igorek4515
    igorek4515 7 June 2016 19: 18
    +4
    cars . airplanes. ships. electronics, cx industry. they produce more oil and gas than Russia, space, software, etc., etc. - Tell me, is it wrong?

    Not this way. Cars. The whole world rides mainly in Japanese, Korean and German cars. American as it is not very quoted. Aircraft .. Well, here perhaps I agree. Ships .. There is a big stretch .. The main builders of ships in the world are again Koreans and Chinese .. Electronics .. Well, here the main manufacturers of electronics are Japanese, Koreans and Chinese .. In the USA, success here is much more modest .. Agriculture .. Well, here, too, the States are also not the largest exporter of food..about more oil is produced .. would you rather ask who today is the largest oil producer in the world .. I'm afraid you will find disappointment in your overseas idol ...
    about space .. Yeah .. It’s clear that their astronauts fly on Russian rockets .. Normally they are the leaders in space ..))))) about the software you wouldn’t be the best to disgrace as well but asked who is leading in this field today. . etc. In general, Jews are accustomed to praising their American vassals .. Which, however, is not surprising ..
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 June 2016 21: 11
      0
      Quote: igorek4515
      Not this way. Cars. The whole world rides mainly in Japanese, Korean and German cars. American as it is not very quoted

      2015 million cars produced in the USA in 12.5
      (we are talking about the economy)
      Quote: igorek4515
      .Airplanes .. Well, here I’ll probably agree

      Quote: igorek4515
      Ships .. Here with a big stretch

      Do US carriers build aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines in China?
      And if they are building, then there will be something to do with and with the appropriate technologies.
      Can Russia build something like that?
      Quote: igorek4515
      Electronics .. Well, here, in the same way, the main electronics manufacturers are Japanese,

      In a parallel universe, if only - but again we are not talking about primacy - we are talking about the real economy
      Quote: igorek4515
      About more oil is produced .. You would be better to ask who today is the largest oil producer in the world ..

      USA
      Quote: igorek4515
      about space .. Yeah .. It’s clear that their astronauts fly on Russian rockets .. Normally this is the leader in space ..)))))

      We drove, with about five articles it was about a comos --- but again you don’t get into the topic --- we are not talking about primacy or not --- we are saying that the economy of America is real and working
      Quote: igorek4515
      As for the software, you would also not be better disgraced, but asked who today is leading in this area.

      American firms - you bet?
      Quote: igorek4515
      In general, Jews used to praise their American vassals

      We are used to talking about real things. not believe in fairy tales
      Quote: igorek4515
      Which, however, is not surprising ..

      Of course - if you are so smart - why so poor? --- heard such a question?
  27. demiurg
    demiurg 7 June 2016 19: 20
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: demiurg
    In 1936, it seemed, it seemed wild. Give out money to improve performance. And now they give out money (quantitative easing), and this is considered the norm.

    many things that were not understood then are absolutely normal today. In 1936 in America there were no pensions for the bulk of the population

    Quote: demiurg
    What America produces is real (we will drop services and finances, we will leave production for at least something, at least for cinema).

    cars . airplanes. ships. electronics, cx industry. they produce more oil and gas than Russia, space, software, etc., etc. - Tell me, is it wrong?


    1. What has changed fundamental since then? Energy in any manifestation, metal, technology. Everything else is lip gloss before selling. If I fixed the door forgiven. Tke, and she provided me with intimate services, how much has the country's GDP grown? The country from which produced more, steel or oil?

    2. More Russia agree. But no more than China.
  28. Every
    Every 7 June 2016 19: 45
    +3
    Quote: GSH-18
    The ship's displacement will be approximately 50-60 thousand tons, probably the aircraft carrier will have a springboard for take-off aircraft

    The normal displacement for ships of this type is in the region of 80 thousand tons. Then a springboard is not needed. What directly affects the combat capabilities of the wing is the maximum possible loading of ammunition and fuel when taking off from the deck! The presence of a springboard cuts into 2 these key indicators.


    Most likely they took the former "Varyag" as a basis and are building in its image and likeness. This is faster than developing an aircraft carrier from scratch. Apparently China needed to build these ships urgently and quickly. The question is why? Although, in theory, such aircraft-carrying ships are needed for fighter cover for the main forces and are not carriers of the main strike forces.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 7 June 2016 22: 41
      +1
      Quote: Every
      such aircraft carriers are needed for the fighter cover of the main forces and are not carriers of the main strike forces.

      1. For the fighter cover of their "main" forces at sea, aircraft carriers are needed, and not aircraft carriers under-AVU.
      2. Airborne carriers cannot, by definition, be carriers of the "main forces", because both the AMs and ours are the main ones in the Navy / Navy are * strategists * - PLPRBy / RPKSNy.
      Yours faithfully, hi
  29. kolexxx
    kolexxx 7 June 2016 21: 44
    0
    The maintenance of the Carrier Strike Groups, which includes one aircraft carrier, 5 cruisers and destroyers, a multipurpose nuclear submarine, about 80 units of aircraft and at least 6700 people, costs the Pentagon a very large figure - about six and a half million dollars a DAY. You have ten such AUGs. About 65 million daily is spent on their maintenance and operation.
    Only a country that prints money like a counterfeiter can do it! China is now, according to economic experts ahead of the United States. If they will have even half of what the Americans have: bases around the world, carrier groups, then they will go broke like that in 7-8 months. Therefore, the Soviet leadership at the time and abandoned the carrier groups and emphasized the nuclear submarines. By the way, Mistral is not needed for hell, and for nothing - this fleet must be accompanied by a fleet of all, by x .. do I need it?
    1. spravochnik
      spravochnik 8 June 2016 11: 34
      0
      Therefore, the Soviet leadership at the time and abandoned the carrier groups and emphasized the nuclear submarines.

      That is why she built the Kuznetsovs and laid the foundation for Ulyanovsk.
    2. spravochnik
      spravochnik 8 June 2016 11: 36
      0
      Therefore, the Soviet leadership at the time and abandoned the carrier groups and emphasized the nuclear submarines.

      And that is precisely why the Kuznetsovs were built and the Ulyanovsk laid down.
  30. alex80
    alex80 8 June 2016 10: 34
    -1
    Quote: Engineer
    This is a ship, it must "cut" the wave with a sharp nose, that's why it is sharp in the photo in the article, and there will already be a flight deck above it.

    This is a no brainer wink I'm talking about modularity! Where is the module or the construction of the modules visible here, if the photo shows a solid body: from the stern to the bow? Where are the modules?
    Either it was necessary to set normal photos for the article, or not to write about it.
    For example, the modular construction of Gerald Ford:
  31. Every
    Every 8 June 2016 12: 52
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: Every
    such aircraft carriers are needed for the fighter cover of the main forces and are not carriers of the main strike forces.

    1. For the fighter cover of their "main" forces at sea, aircraft carriers are needed, and not aircraft carriers under-AVU.
    2. Airborne carriers cannot, by definition, be carriers of the "main forces", because both the AMs and ours are the main ones in the Navy / Navy are * strategists * - PLPRBy / RPKSNy.
    Yours faithfully, hi


    1. I did not take into account strategists at all, only conventional weapons. Since the use of nuclear weapons, this is the end of everything and everything, or a state close to this.
    2. American aircraft carriers carry a variety of types of aircraft, not just fighters and can perform a variety of tasks. And just they are the center of AUG. At the same time, aircraft carriers of this class (Luonin, Kuznetsov, new Chinese ships are very similar to them) are mainly based on fighters and anti-submarine helicopters. They are not the center of the strike force, but act as a cover (anti-aircraft and anti-submarine).
    3. Ships of this class are not aircraft carriers in the classical sense and it’s simply pointless to compare them, let alone call them under-AVU. They have completely different tasks.
  32. AARP
    AARP 8 June 2016 14: 57
    0
    But still look at the photo and diagram. In the photo, the ship’s superstructures are located symmetrically relative to the axis of the hull, which is completely in the center in the dock, although the diagram shows that there is some asymmetry in the location of the take-off deck. Where will the decks protruding along the sides of the deck be seen if the side borders of the boathouse are visible in the photo? Something like that.
  33. the same doctor
    the same doctor 10 June 2016 16: 43
    0
    Enviously? Very enviable. But there is one bright spot. Modern computer technologies allow, or rather, allow to build even faster, with the speed of transporting metal to the shipyard. And as soon as the first shipyard of a new type is built, all existing ones will be outdated by 50%.