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Militants in Syria claim that the Kornet anti-tank system destroyed TOS-1A Solntseyok in the Aleppo area

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Militants publish a video on YouTube, in the comments to which they claim that the destruction of a heavy flamethrower system of salvo fire produced in Russia has been destroyed. Online www.baladi-news.com/ar it is argued that we can talk about the system TOC-1A "Sun chain". It is noted that shots taken in the Aleppo area.


Militants are firing from the Kornet anti-tank missile system produced by the Machine-Building Design Bureau (Tula). The official operators of the Kornet ATGM besides Russia are such states as Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Greece, Algeria, Iraq, Peru.

The TOC-1 in the number of 2 units, as reported by the media, were in service with the Syrian army.



Attention is drawn to the number of comments of delighted Ukrainian users to the video presented on YouTube. And, judging by the comments, the Maidan sofa army is absolutely confident that it was the Russian military who controlled the flamethrowing system. Well ... The habit of seeing the Russian military everywhere distinguishes Maidan tribe.

In the Syrian segment of social networks, comments appear in which it is assumed that the Kornet anti-tank systems in the hands of the militants could have appeared as after the seizure of warehouses with weapons and ammunition of the Syrian government army, and as a result of the transfer from the territory of Turkey.
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  1. AID.S
    AID.S 7 June 2016 13: 21
    +25
    In war, not without losses .. The joy of the enemy is natural.
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 7 June 2016 13: 27
      +11
      The CBT system itself was not visible. A loading machine could be hit. And the second attack fell on some people weakly connected with the army - they ran into the open field, snooping around the attacked vehicles.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 June 2016 13: 30
        +8
        Quote: tiredwithall
        The CBT system itself was not visible


        the launcher is more like Grad ... and flying fireworks at the Grad pipes ...
        1. theadenter
          theadenter 7 June 2016 13: 35
          +23
          The detonation seemed to me quite powerful and voluminous. I think this is really CBT.
          There are enough stubborn Ukrainians. They gloat from powerlessness.
          1. just exp
            just exp 7 June 2016 14: 40
            +6
            and tera constantly bleed Alah akbar, I wonder if they know other words?
        2. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 7 June 2016 13: 40
          +18
          Quote: vorobey
          the launcher is more like Grad ...

          "Bulletin of Mordovia" writes:
          In fact, during the attack on the positions of the Syrian troops with the use of the Kornet ATGM system, a BM-21 Grad multiple launch rocket system and a 130-mm gun were destroyed ... On the video posted by the terrorists, you can see the package of Grad guides. and not "Solntsepeka". Moreover, the extremists themselves did not even stutter about TOS-1A. http://www.vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-16445.htm
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 June 2016 13: 45
            +15
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            "Bulletin of Mordovia" writes:


            in fact, whoever was ... what kind of banana he was doing there ... he would have put an infantry in battle formations ... to cover a sniper ... angry
            1. svp67
              svp67 7 June 2016 14: 24
              +1
              Quote: vorobey
              in fact, whoever was ... what kind of banana he was doing there ... he would have put an infantry in battle formations ... to cover a sniper ...

              It looks like "held the defense" ...
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 7 June 2016 14: 00
            +1
            On the video posted by the terrorists, you can see exactly the package of guides of "Grad", and not "Solntsepek".

            Who has such good eyesight there? I saw only the rectangular silhouette of something. Nevertheless, it exploded decently, and rockets also scattered in all directions.
          3. just exp
            just exp 7 June 2016 14: 57
            +2
            by the way possible. because the guides of something are too long for Solntsepek.
        3. potroshenko
          potroshenko 7 June 2016 13: 43
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          the launcher is more like Grad ... and flying fireworks at the Grad pipes ...

          It seems like Grad is not working with the forefront?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 June 2016 13: 52
            +4
            Quote: potroshenko
            Quote: vorobey
            the launcher is more like Grad ... and flying fireworks at the Grad pipes ...

            It seems like Grad is not working with the forefront?


            I agree .... the TOS has a minimum salary of 400-600 m .. but maybe it’s also for 6000 .. which one pulled it there ... even though the tosa is at least Grad ... Grad can also beat with a cassette for 2500 or OFS for 4000m .. it’s necessary wait for confirmation ...
        4. megafair
          megafair 7 June 2016 14: 57
          +15
          Quote: vorobey
          the launcher is more like Grad ... and flying fireworks at the Grad pipes ...

          That's right, it looks more like the BM-21 Grad. In order not to be unfounded, I looked for a photo in a similar perspective as in a video, I post it for comparison.
          At the same time, please pay attention to the fact that if this is "Grad", then in the video - to the left of the circled circle, you can even see the silhouette of the cabin exactly where it should be. Plus the silhouette of the launcher has almost identical contours, which cannot be said when comparing the silhouette with the TOS "Solntsepёk".

          See and compare (the picture is clickable):
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 7 June 2016 15: 05
            0
            From this distance it’s easy to make a mistake. Turn the shell a little bit and now it looks like.
            1. megafair
              megafair 7 June 2016 15: 41
              +5
              Quote: Wedmak
              From this distance it’s easy to make a mistake. Turn the shell a little bit and now it looks like.

              Details cannot be made out, but the silhouette is clearly visible. The silhouette shows that the rail mounts are centered under the rails (like the BM-21 Grad) and form a characteristic thickening of the silhouette forming a step due to which the horizontal lines of the rails cease to be parallel, if it were TOS-1A, then under the rails there would be clearance, and the side faces of the guide on the silhouette - would be close to parallel lines.
              Again - the silhouette of the cabin is visible and is visible exactly where it should be located at the Grad at this angle.
      2. svp67
        svp67 7 June 2016 14: 22
        +6
        The CBT system itself was not visible. A loading machine could be hit.
        In any case, this is a "puncture", you cannot substitute it like that ...
      3. SPACE
        SPACE 7 June 2016 14: 39
        +5
        Quote: tiredwithall
        The CBT system itself was not visible.

        If you take a closer look, then at the initial moment of the explosion, the visible part of the proposed installation seems to block the explosion and it seems that something exploded at a distance, behind the installation.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 7 June 2016 14: 46
          +4
          But you are right. At the time of the explosion, this rectangle is still intact. So something exploded behind him.
          https://yadi.sk/i/7emp4sZnsKME5

          Something is not inserted.
          1. borov
            borov 7 June 2016 18: 14
            +2
            Quote: Wedmak
            But you are right. At the time of the explosion, this rectangle is still intact. So something exploded behind him.
            https://yadi.sk/i/7emp4sZnsKME5

            This and other points suggest that we have a cheap installation, especially a blunder with an explosion:
            from 55 minutes the explosion begins to disappear (as if the recording of the explosion was turned in the opposite direction), then there is a clear sky above the houses (about 58), and finally, a completely new shot appears with an explosion - with the subsequent expansion of the rockets, the shooting is obviously cut in another explosion (starting at 59)!
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 June 2016 14: 50
        +2
        Quote: tiredwithall
        The CBT system itself was not visible. A loading machine could be hit

        Canked specifically! There certainly wasn’t anyone alive ... Let the earth rest in peace. They gave their lives for their homeland. And to the living Syrian warriors, to crush this daishovskaya reptile wherever you find. Peace to your home!
    2. CORNET
      CORNET 7 June 2016 13: 32
      0
      Quote: AID.S
      In war, not without losses .. The joy of the enemy is natural.

      That's right ... "Solntsepeki" are very vulnerable ... I hope they fired their entire warhead at the target .. hi
      Although the explosions did not have time ... Damn it!
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 7 June 2016 13: 36
        +4
        Judging by the voluminous broads, there were enough warheads.
        1. poquello
          poquello 7 June 2016 13: 44
          0
          Quote: theadenter
          Judging by the voluminous broads, there were enough warheads.

          unlike the first broads warheads, horseradish next yes
          1. Leto
            Leto 7 June 2016 14: 08
            +2
            Quote: poquello
            unlike the first broads warheads

            Do you think b / h Corneta so flopped?
            1. poquello
              poquello 7 June 2016 14: 28
              0
              Quote: Leto
              Quote: poquello
              unlike the first broads warheads

              Do you think b / h Corneta so flopped?

              no, of course, it’s not clear what rushed
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 7 June 2016 14: 32
      0
      Judging by the dimensions, it’s quite brazen and sleepyheads. Well, you can’t put an incomparably unprotected car in a prominent place. Judging by the zoom to it about a kilometer 3. These things need to be masked. the beast hid on the roofs. and then from this sunshine I burned everything there fucking. if this machine gives a powerful fire support. and so on. to eat. the same story with t90. left and stood ... but that one has protection. dynamic and shtora.tam cantusium get and here the crew just turned into steam. you can’t lose the technique so illiterate
  2. 3officer
    3officer 7 June 2016 13: 22
    +4
    Yeah ... full-length "truce".
    1. Leto
      Leto 7 June 2016 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: 3officer
      Yeah ... full-length "truce".

      And what, Nusra is participating in a truce?
  3. salad
    salad 7 June 2016 13: 22
    0
    The second hit shows that this is a car or am I mistaken ?, but the first hit is of course a blow to the BC or is it really a CBT?
    1. Sly
      Sly 7 June 2016 13: 28
      0
      Quote: salat
      The second hit shows that this is a car or am I mistaken?

      it looks like bearded on cars Cornets translate
  4. vadimtt
    vadimtt 7 June 2016 13: 25
    -21%
    Well, apparently, only the launchers were struck, the chassis and crew were unlikely to be hurt. Unpleasant, but not fatal.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 7 June 2016 13: 31
      +12
      Quote: vadimtt
      Well, apparently, only the launchers were struck, the chassis and crew were unlikely to be hurt. Unpleasant, but not fatal.


      yes no, dear man ... there is no ash left ... hi
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 7 June 2016 13: 31
      +5
      If zvezdanuli on equipped, then the crew is over. No options.
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 7 June 2016 13: 37
        +2
        And all around at a distance of tens of meters.
      2. IGS
        IGS 7 June 2016 14: 14
        +5
        There are completely no options within a radius of 200m, thermobaric ammunition is a terrible thing, even with the slightest damage to the shell. Sadly, but outward signs point exactly to TOC. But this is a war, and you should not be like someone and shout that we are unkillable "terminators" ... My condolences to the families and friends of the victims, and no matter whose they are, ours or the Syrians, they did hard and important work.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 7 June 2016 14: 20
          +3
          thermobaric ammunition is a terrible thing, even with the slightest damage to the shell

          For it to work, you need:
          1. spray fuel into volume
          2. set it on fire.

          Who knows if there were experiments on getting an RPG into a TOS projectile placed in a package? Maybe there will simply be a breakdown, leakage of explosives and a fire?
          1. poquello
            poquello 7 June 2016 14: 35
            0
            Quote: Wedmak
            thermobaric ammunition is a terrible thing, even with the slightest damage to the shell

            For it to work, you need:
            1. spray fuel into volume
            2. set it on fire.

            Who knows if there were experiments on getting an RPG into a TOS projectile placed in a package? Maybe there will simply be a breakdown, leakage of explosives and a fire?

            here I am talking about too, like there are a lot of things to come together
          2. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 7 June 2016 15: 03
            0
            explosive leakage and fire?
            There seems to be a special powder ...
          3. vorobey
            vorobey 7 June 2016 17: 00
            +2
            Quote: Wedmak
            Who knows if there were experiments on getting an RPG into a TOS projectile placed in a package? Maybe there will simply be a breakdown, leakage of explosives and a fire?



            In the Tashkent tank, the 9th company of our battalion tested RPO LYNX in the training building ... God forbid I wash mine for 91 years ... there was a shot in an audience full of people ... it saved everyone that the jet stream went right out the window and the capsule itself she slammed the tangent through the door and walked along the corridor ... all that happened was ignition without an explosion ... in general .... everyone got rid of it ... because chemists really showed what was happening to the tank in this situation ...
        2. just exp
          just exp 7 June 2016 14: 35
          0
          Thermobaric work well in infantry and shelters. and they work weakly on armor.
          1. quote
            quote 7 June 2016 15: 40
            +1
            ??? Not made for the reservation!
            1. just exp
              just exp 7 June 2016 15: 44
              +1
              an artificial pressure drop is created there. and the infantry and the little things just pull the pressure out where again the pressure and the high temperature. in airtight shelters and armored vehicles, the pressure remains normal and does not carry anything out. there is one BUT. the force of the explosion can break the armor and the shelter, then the damaging factor remains the same. but nothing threatens the tanks (with closed hatches) and non-cardboard BMPs (crew), but attachments can spoil.
    3. potroshenko
      potroshenko 7 June 2016 13: 33
      +2
      Well, apparently, only the launchers were struck, the chassis and crew were unlikely to be hurt. Unpleasant, but not fatal.

      You are joking? Judging by what? There probably is not much left of the chassis.
  5. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 7 June 2016 13: 26
    +8
    A vivid demonstration of the fact that leaving such a weapon without cover and in direct reach is a complete cabin for both installation and those around it within a radius of 200 m !!!
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 7 June 2016 13: 39
      +3
      Yes, it’s strange that it stuck in sight. Someone does that ...
      1. Lieutenant Izhe
        Lieutenant Izhe 7 June 2016 14: 02
        +6
        Yes, it’s strange that it stuck in sight. Someone does that ...

        so gouging (and not only) in the armies of the whole world ...
        but, you can’t foresee everything in the war, and the enemy is cunning and treacherous!
        PS Syrian combat experience will be included in the manuals for the preparation of our army
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 7 June 2016 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
       A vivid demonstration of how to leave such a weapon without cover and in direct reach is a complete cabin for both installation and others

      + The installation must be hidden from possible "skyscrapers" or be at a sufficient distance, which is very difficult.
      Number of rails 24 (30)
      Minimum firing range, m 400
      Maximum firing range, m 3600 (with new missiles - up to 6000)
      Area of ​​damage, m 1000 - incendiary, 2000 - thermobaric

      and "Cornet"
      <Kornet>. TTX Firing range, m - in the daytime 100-5500 - at night 100-3500

      Eh, on this "truce" babakhi only began to earn points for themselves. Mix them with Syrian dust.
  6. techie
    techie 7 June 2016 13: 27
    +3
    If the Syrian "Kornet" had knocked out Ishilov's "Solntsepek", there would have been a reason for joy. And so the only positive point is that Russian weapons are in demand not for political reasons, but for their combat qualities. If it is preferred to be armed by the opposing sides in the war.
  7. fzr1000
    fzr1000 7 June 2016 13: 28
    +1
    Yes, hell knows what they destroyed there, but it is necessary that not a whole house was not there. And that means shelters.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 7 June 2016 13: 28
    +9
    Monkeys ... Do they know anything other than "Alla I'm in the bar"?
    I do not understand whether it is CBT or MLRS. But it’s sad that it’s lost.
  9. Engineer
    Engineer 7 June 2016 13: 31
    +1
    Following the logic of dill: the Russian calculation of the ATGM Cornet destroyed the Russians on TOS-1A Solntseёk.
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 7 June 2016 13: 44
      +3
      This refers to the Russian-developed Cornet knocked out the Russian-developed CBT.

      Guys sorry if there were ours or CAA.

      And don't listen to stoned Ukrainians. They are miserable and are trying to raise national self-esteem by the fact that their "sworn enemy" is suffering. They can't do anything else.
      1. just exp
        just exp 7 June 2016 14: 36
        +1
        This is it about komentov kaklov, they say if the weapon is Russian, then the crew was Russian.
        Duc and Cornet Russian. hence the calculation of the cornet according to their logic should be Russian.
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 June 2016 13: 33
    +6
    CBT is certainly not the T-90 and the Kornet is not a firecracker. They could have failed. War, damn it!
  11. killganoff
    killganoff 7 June 2016 13: 33
    +1
    Chocks, bl @ t ...
  12. dsm100
    dsm100 7 June 2016 13: 34
    +7
    Yeah. It exploded so it exploded. The ammunition was probably full.
  13. Oznob
    Oznob 7 June 2016 13: 35
    0
    It seemed to me, I felt the breath of Ragnarok. Heavy shots.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 7 June 2016 13: 43
      0
      Heavy footage is the loss of dominant altitude over the DeZ air base. Now there is only supply from aircraft to throw. Helicopters no longer pass.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 7 June 2016 14: 02
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Heavy footage is the loss of dominant altitude over the DeZ air base.

        It seems to have recaptured.
        In particular, Syrian warplanes attacked the improvised headquarters of the IS in the quarter of Rusaf, destroying several terrorists, as well as six armored vehicles.

        After the bombing of the Rusaf quarter, Syrian aviation launched a series of airstrikes in the south-west of Deir ez-Zor, hitting several terrorist targets in the area of ​​the Tayyem oil fields.

        On Monday, army units recaptured the dominant height of Tell Taiem from IS fighters. Since that moment, terrorists have not abandoned attempts to regain control of this facility.

        http://warfiles.ru/show-120039-vvs-sirii-sterli-shtab-kvartiru-ig-v-deyr-ez-zore
        -s-lica-zemli.html
      2. Leto
        Leto 7 June 2016 14: 13
        +8
        Quote: donavi49
        Heavy footage is the loss of dominant altitude over the DeZ air base.

        Heavy shots, this is when everyone spat on the wounded man and pass by without paying attention to the shots in the back, and an infantry fighting vehicle that could cover the retreat with fire and pick up the wounded man runs ahead of everyone.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 7 June 2016 14: 21
          +4
          There was a battle from above at night, then they sprinted 2 km or more under fire. There is already apathy and a complete exhaustion of forces. Therefore, they go under the bullets, ignoring and threw the wounded.

          There was 2 BMP - 1 was out of order, also lost a tank on the mountain. The second, possibly complete, or with the officers departed at speed. In those conditions, getting up and taking people would probably be more dangerous. It’s simple because, as in a standing BMP, they could charge / try to cover an RPG / Ptur with no recoil and everyone would die. But people have already left the affected area and only a few will die.
      3. Professor
        Professor 7 June 2016 14: 24
        +13
        Quote: donavi49
        Heavy shots

        Yeah. Like ducks in the dash. They are being shot back, but they slowly "retreat". The most telling is how the wounded soldier was thrown. In this episode, everything you need to know about the Arabs.
      4. Su35
        Su35 11 June 2016 16: 18
        0
        The video has been deleted, where can I find it?
  14. Marlen
    Marlen 7 June 2016 13: 40
    +2
    Unfortunately, there is no need to talk about survivors ...
  15. Vadim237
    Vadim237 7 June 2016 13: 48
    0
    Well, at first 4 T 90 tanks were knocked out, and now they also smashed the TOC - the Syrian troops have probably destroyed more than half of the equipment that we delivered to them over the past half year.
    1. Forest
      Forest 7 June 2016 13: 56
      +2
      Did you think that in a war there is no loss? T-90 is generally knocked out by 1, 2 is easily damaged. Destroyed completely no.
      1. just exp
        just exp 7 June 2016 14: 39
        +2
        But you can in more detail about the damaged T-90? but it’s kind of like the famous 2 cases of Tau getting into the T-90 and not the fact that they were shot down.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 7 June 2016 17: 02
          +3
          Quote: just EXPL
          But you can in more detail about the damaged T-90? but it’s kind of like the famous 2 cases of Tau getting into the T-90 and not the fact that they were shot down.



          I'm also in the spotlight hi
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 7 June 2016 18: 47
          0
          Well, the first two know everything /www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qf82zR11Jo, www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfIGIlDkSn8, and you need to look for two more photos.
        3. Forest
          Forest 7 June 2016 22: 21
          +1
          The first - the famous TOW caught in the tower, another caught TOW aboard, the crew left the tank, but the car did not catch fire - the PPS justified itself along the way. Another allegedly captured by the Nusra militants - demolished part of the DZ and body kit.
  16. zakamsk1971
    zakamsk1971 7 June 2016 13: 50
    +5
    This is war. Normal tactics. In March 1996, in Elistanzhi of the Vedeno district, a 506 regiment was hit by five ATGMs from a mountain. The result - a spinner, self-propelled guns burned down. According to PCBs, the flight to headquarters and to us (physicians) were mazanuli. Eternal memory to those who died, including Seifert from the Orenburg region.
  17. Unbearable
    Unbearable 7 June 2016 13: 54
    +2
    A good target for action movies. Can't BM-21 "Grad" explode like that?
  18. Kind angry
    Kind angry 7 June 2016 13: 54
    +5
    That's interesting, that radical Muslims have just a few words in common use (takbir allahu akbar), that radical Ukrainians (glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes) ... that's all))
    What is it ? Why is that ? Voice code in the world of degenerates? new race of people HOMO INSIPIENS?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 7 June 2016 14: 13
      +2
      Slogans replace other thought processes. Why think, compare facts, look for other sources, analyze somehow. They told you that it was Solntsepek with the Russian crew, so it is! Glory to Ukraine!
      And if you ask where the information comes from, whether it is reliable, then you’re a sworn Muscovite and Putin’s spy.
      And of course, they are recruiting people with the appropriate education and character.
  19. Wedmak
    Wedmak 7 June 2016 13: 56
    0
    Well, on YouTube a bacchanalia with ritual dances and jumping ukrov is gaining momentum. They were seriously treated ... they don’t hear themselves.
  20. ivanovich
    ivanovich 7 June 2016 14: 12
    +1
    A very powerful explosion with a fireball, as fuel and lubricant containers usually explode, by its nature TOS 1A or Hurricane may well be, but not Grad, too large and there would be no such sea of ​​fire.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 7 June 2016 14: 16
      0
      But, on the other hand, who saw the real undermining of the TOS-1C in full gear? And it is precisely when a cumulative jet enters the guide package?
    2. Ivan Ivanych
      Ivan Ivanych 7 June 2016 14: 45
      +2
      122-mm thermobaric missile 9M215.
      The warhead is thermobaric.
      Modifications:
      9M215M “Ignition-1”

      Maybe such an option?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 June 2016 15: 35
      0
      Regarding flying missiles, it is safe to say that this is not Grad.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 June 2016 18: 29
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Regarding flying missiles, it is safe to say that this is not Grad.


        than justify ... and there and there solid propellant engines and that and that rotate in flight, but the TOC rocket engine is smaller in size than the Grad from here and a smaller range .. look which pipes fly apart ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 7 June 2016 18: 49
          0
          But TOS engines are almost twice as large in diameter.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 June 2016 21: 39
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfIGIlDkSn8


            specify .. in diameter but not in length ... the main part of the TOC rocket is a charge .. and with such pipes after detonation the Tosovsky shell cannot fly 2.01 - 2.03 in slowdown look ... wink
  21. Evil 55
    Evil 55 7 June 2016 14: 14
    +1
    It's time to think about installing an "anti-ISG" option in a Russian-made ATGM .. So that in the handles of Barmaley it turns into a useless constructor ..
  22. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 June 2016 14: 22
    0
    Theoretically, the crew could survive if all the hatches were shut up. But, I doubt it. And so it seems to be true, given that the TOZ is valid up to 6km, and the Cornet also shoots up to 6km. Therefore, the base at the TOZ from the tank and therefore at the TOZ for Iraq the base was changed to T-90 and the missiles were removed from the extreme guides.
  23. drunkram
    drunkram 7 June 2016 14: 26
    +1
    guides too high from the ground, maybe it's hail?
    1. megafair
      megafair 7 June 2016 15: 09
      +1
      Quote: drunkram
      guides too high from the ground, maybe it's hail?

      That's right, it looks more like the BM-21 Grad. In order not to be unfounded, I looked for a photo in a similar perspective as in the video, I posted it above for comparison.
      Here is the link to go to the answer: http://topwar.ru/96420-boeviki-v-sirii-utverzhdayut-chto-iz-ptrk-kornet-unichtoz
      hili-tos-1a-solncepek-v-rayone-aleppo.html # comment-id-5951293
      1. atalef
        atalef 7 June 2016 15: 38
        +7
        Quote: megafair
        That's right, it looks more like BM-21 Grad

        But in general, what's the difference that withered?
        It seems that the Sunshine Super Wunderwafer is designed for an instant victory in Syria?
        War is like war - Sunshine. The city or the Hurricane - this is not necessary to discuss, but how the women can so without any problems and with impunity bombard them.
        1. megafair
          megafair 7 June 2016 19: 05
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          But in general, what's the difference that withered?
          It seems that the Sunshine Super Wunderwafer is designed for an instant victory in Syria?

          In BM-21 "Grad" - Russian soldiers could not be, in TOS-1A "Solntsepёk" - theoretically our crew could be, or our instructors could be nearby.
          On Ukrainian sites, they are cutting the last stash of fat and opening a strategic supply of vodka to celebrate this event as a holiday.
          From the point of view that you need to work on the bugs, you are absolutely right, the only question is - who needs to work, the Russian military or the Syrian - is now coming to the fore.
        2. MMX
          MMX 8 June 2016 05: 07
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: megafair
          That's right, it looks more like BM-21 Grad

          But in general, what's the difference that withered?
          It seems that the Sunshine Super Wunderwafer is designed for an instant victory in Syria?
          War is like war - Sunshine. The city or the Hurricane - this is not necessary to discuss, but how the women can so without any problems and with impunity bombard them.


          Well, actually, the comrade below already answered. The issue is not that Solntsepek is an invulnerable mega-weapon. And the fact is that with a high degree of probability in Solnepek (if it was he) there could be a Russian crew (or instructors).
          And yes, the question is topical: "how can the bombs be able to fire at them without any problems and with impunity?"
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 June 2016 14: 41
    +1
    On TOZ, the guides are no lower than the GRAD and in the explosion it is an OD explosion, respectively it is either Tornado / hurricane with ODAB ammunition or Solntsepek. The firing range of the MLRS 220mm and 330mm to 80km, respectively, they could not be in the city.
  25. HMR333
    HMR333 7 June 2016 14: 56
    0
    Well, as always, two different videos stuck together on the first shooter, everything is clearly light and the second where the turbidity is getting dark already and start! in the third installation, the tos was not observed there, but according to the video, in my opinion, the fuel was there! AND HOW MUCH DOES NOT ERROR MEMORY THAT TOS1 WERE TRANSFERRED TO IRAQ there they are and it seems they didn’t deliver to Syria, the grad works in Syria!
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 7 June 2016 15: 07
      +1
      And they delivered to Syria.
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  27. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 June 2016 15: 18
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    in Iraq Solntsepek on the basis of T-90, to Syria from our warehouses Pinocchio on the basis of T-72
  28. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 7 June 2016 15: 27
    -2
    Quote: Professor
    Yeah. Like ducks in the dash. They are being shot back, but they slowly "retreat". The most telling is how the wounded soldier was thrown. In this episode, everything you need to know about the Arabs.

    Yes, where do they care about you, "tough specialist" who gloated, just for this here and come in, take a pie from the shelf, deserve it.
  29. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 June 2016 15: 30
    +1
    This is not about shooting, there should be an art cover for retreat or air support. Without all this, at least someone would run the same way. But the wounded were badly received, especially BMP in stock.
  30. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 7 June 2016 16: 01
    +4
    Militants in Syria claim that the Kornet anti-tank system destroyed TOS-1A Solntseyok in the Aleppo area

    Quite possible. And possibly BM-21 Grad.

    It is available - illiterate placement of the installation on the art. Position. Violation of the rules of disguise always entails similar consequences.
  31. sinoptic
    sinoptic 7 June 2016 17: 31
    +3
    Ishaki rejoice.
    And Ukrainians, along with them, are likened to donkeys too.
  32. behemot
    behemot 7 June 2016 17: 44
    0
    and what is the range of application of the sun and the cornet, what for they drove into the city?
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 7 June 2016 19: 31
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      Quote: behemot
      and what is the range of application of the sun and the cornet, what for they drove into the city?


      It's not about range. If sensible to use such systems, then the installation should go to the position for firing only at the moment when it is necessary to produce a volley.

      After the end of the shooting, the installation should move from a position to a shelter, or even better - generally change the location.

      Apparently, someone considered such precautions unnecessary. And he placed the installation in position for a long time. The end result is there.
  33. fa2998
    fa2998 7 June 2016 17: 54
    +2
    Quote: vorobey
    in fact, anyone ... what kind of banana he made there ...

    Indeed, the TOS or "Grad" was pushed into the front line, in full view of the enemy. It should be in the rear 10 kilometers away, and disguised. There were also clips with a tank, standing in plain sight, under fire, they were testing dynamic protection. These warriors have a bad word, but allies. In addition to technology, they have more advisers, let them drive them, teach them how to fight. soldier hi
  34. Arandir
    Arandir 7 June 2016 17: 56
    +3
    It is unlikely that ours were there. Something he stupidly so substituted under the ATGM shot. Just like that T-90. He simply stood in the opening of the wall and even after the rocket fired, he didn’t try either to move behind the wall, turn on the curtain, or even destroy the ATGM operator with a return shot. Also, this combat vehicle was clearly visible in the gap between the houses. And stood for a long time. She had to be discovered. Report where necessary. Drag the ATGM. May be from afar. Aiming also took probably a few minutes. In short, they sunbathed there for a long time.
    Safetylessness in war is punished. With their incompetence they ensured victory and joy to the enemy.
    1. megafair
      megafair 7 June 2016 19: 13
      0
      Quote: Arandir
      It is unlikely that ours were there.

      I also think so, moreover, above I posted a visual comparison of the silhouettes MB-21 "Grad" and TOS-1A "Solntsepёk" and the conclusions why the video "Grad".
      In order not to overload comments with pictures - I give a link to the above message:

      http://topwar.ru/96420-boeviki-v-sirii-utverzhdayut-chto-iz-ptrk-kornet-unichtoz
      hili-tos-1a-solncepek-v-rayone-aleppo.html # comment-id-5951293
      1. megafair
        megafair 8 June 2016 01: 26
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        Quote: Arandir
        It is unlikely that ours were there.
        Quote: megafair
        I also think so, moreover, above I posted a visual comparison of the silhouettes MB-21 "Grad" and TOS-1A "Solntsepёk" and the conclusions why the video "Grad".
        In order not to overload comments with pictures - I give a link to the above message:

        The most interesting thing is that we are "fiercely minus" ... And why - they do not explain;)

        Well, let it be so, the truth will be known!
  35. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 7 June 2016 19: 48
    +1
    Nothing is clear: well, the Syrians could not have put a "sun" for a volley on a hillock, but in the marching guides they were folded. Or complete carelessness. After the explosion, the cars drove into an open place and again stood up.
  36. Evil like Putin
    Evil like Putin 8 June 2016 12: 26
    0
    Maydaunov Maidan lifelong !!!
  37. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 8 June 2016 16: 14
    0
    ukrov must have demolished the tower firmly! why are they glad it’s not clear, or will they stop joyfully yapping like dogs when they are going to kill them? Maybe then the brains will be cleared or the russians will be guilty again.