Will we continue to sit on a log, or is it time to jump already? To NATO exercises in the Baltic

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Once upon a time my teacher told me an old parable. On a log there were three frogs. And then one of them decided to jump into the water. How many frogs are left on the log?



Alas, but the majority answer will be wrong. The number of frogs on the log does not change. The one that decided to jump, did not take any action for this. The solution remained a solution.

Very often we make our decisions for action. It seems to us that we have already jumped. But in fact, we continue to sit on the log. And this problem is not only Russia. It seems to me that this is exactly what happened in Ukraine. Ukrainians also took their decision for action. From here and general disappointment maidan. Hence the collapse of the country. Hence the gap of the people apart.

Unlike us, NATO is "jumping." Does not decide to jump, but just jumps. Without looking at our reaction, without thinking about the consequences. They considered that they needed it, and did.

Today, June 6, in Poland, the most large-scale exercises that have ever been in Poland begin. And they are called quite menacingly - Anaconda. The practical part of the exercise begins on June 7.

According to ITAR-TASS: “According to the Ministry of Defense of Poland, a record number of states and soldiers will take part in Anakonda-16. 31 thousand soldiers from 24 countries, including 12 thousand from Poland, 10 thousand from The United States, about a thousand from Great Britain, 3 thousand units of military equipment, including Tanks and armored personnel carriers, more than a hundred aircraft and helicopters, as well as 12 ships. Maneuvers will take place at all Polish training grounds. "

Agree, really impressive. But every exercise has a goal. And it is precisely the goals of the exercises that interest us most. Experts will understand perfectly what and for what will be worked out.

“The purpose of the exercises is to strengthen the interaction of national and coalition commands and subdivisions within the framework of a united defensive operation in the conditions of the emergence of mixed threats,” the republic’s Defense Ministry reported.

"The Anakonda-16 scenario makes it possible to test the readiness of its participants to respond to the full range of threats identified in current conflicts, including responding to hybrid threats," the agency notes. In particular, the units will have to accomplish the tasks of tactical integration of commands and troops, fire control, medical evacuation, elimination of the consequences of using weapons mass destruction, the movement of troops over long distances. "

That is what we will see in the language of the military is called "combat coordination". National units and units will learn to fight together. And given the venue, a logical question arises - against whom? The answer is obvious.

NATO will hold not only the "Anaconda". In parallel, we will see other interesting teachings. "Sword strike" - the rapid movement of NATO combat units from the territory of Germany to Romania, Bulgaria, and the Baltic states. And we are no longer talking only about personnel. We are talking about the transfer of heavy armored vehicles and weapons.

The "quick response" is the rapid transfer of US troops from the United States to Poland, followed by the development of hostilities in the territory of this country and other countries in the region.

"Baltops" - landing of the sea landing on the Polish coast. With the participation of all the forces and means of the NATO Navy and aviation.

Of course, "Anaconda" - the traditional teachings. Today is the sixth in a row. But. It is too obvious that the direction of these exercises is not so much defensive as offensive. Agree, the transfer of large units to the borders of another state, the navy, the fleet off the coast of the likely enemy, and other "charms" speak eloquently enough about the mood in the NATO headquarters.

Naturally, to calm Russia, and most importantly, its own citizens, NATO generals make "peaceful" statements.

"These exercises are defensive in nature and should be a response to the threats of the modern world, to show how ready we are to interact with our allies and partners," says Republican Deputy Minister of Defense Bartlomie Grabsky.

I think that today many articles will be published on "military hysteria in the Russian media." Teachings need information support. Moreover, examples will be given of the "inadequate reaction of Russia" to the teachings. But the question is: what reaction is adequate in this case? Express "concern" or "deep regret" about?

It's time to learn from the Americans their pragmatic approach. With whom you will lead ... It's time to act and only so that it solves Russian problems. Our interests should be above all for us. Probably, it is time to abandon the manner of "taking into account the interests of the states of the region."

Well, if you have already started with a parable, then you will end with a parable. A sage was sitting near the city. And a passing traveler asked him about what kind of people live in this city. And in the city from which you are coming, what kind of people were there? The bad! Aggressive, evil ... Well, here you will meet the same. And after some time, another traveler asked the sage the same question. And in response, I heard that good-natured, happy people lived in another city. From which it was hard to leave. “Here they are the same,” the sage replied.

A beggar beside him chided a sage. Why do you answer different people differently? And in response, he heard: “Everyone carries his own world in his heart! The one who has not found anything good in those regions where he came from will not find anything here. On the contrary, he who had friends in another city will find friends here. ”

Today, those that came to our borders resemble the first traveler. Hence, they must meet exactly the same people as they are. Maybe it will help to become like the second? In our "city" everyone will get what they want.
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  1. +8
    7 June 2016 06: 27
    And the article is intelligible and the parable of the noble. decisions and actions are hasty and not right, more than once in the history of states, but are right, righteous, and deliberate. Now all hope for the wisdom of our leaders. The determination and reason in our leadership have already been proven. Citizen support is also available.
    1. +23
      7 June 2016 08: 47
      It is not clear what the author suggests and where to jump. Poland and so under the gun, as well as promising areas based missile defense. "Today those who have come to our borders resemble the first traveler. This means that they should meet exactly the same people as they are." What does it mean? To lower the iron curtain or to stand on the border with evil people? Simply, if you write such an article and ask yourself a question, then it is advisable to offer something. Otherwise, all this is an empty chatter
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          1. +4
            7 June 2016 10: 37
            You just need to see the difference between for example Tatars and for example - Mishars, Tipters, Kerashens, Yurts Tatars, Nugais, Karagash, Tobolliks, Turals, I almost forgot Kryashenov.
            1. +4
              7 June 2016 16: 45
              Well, you damn it, re-read Wikipedia .... belay
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              1. +6
                7 June 2016 11: 00
                Listen, comrade, the questions raised by you have a place to be, but the solution here is different is a fact!
              2. +7
                7 June 2016 13: 21
                If Russia ever collapses, it will be largely because of people like you. Without numerous peoples and nationalities it will no longer be Russia. Or not the Russia that we all know. Concerning the "Tatars surviving Russians from the Volga", contact to a psychiatrist ...
                1. +4
                  7 June 2016 16: 51
                  Correctly. This is our strength! We sent pictures from the holiday in the Bulgarians to friends in Germany. Those in shock: How so close to Islam !!! We showed them an example of true tolerance, rather than ostentatious EU tolerance towards all non-traditionalists.
                  1. +1
                    7 June 2016 22: 44
                    And there is. True genuine multiculturalism is a system of peaceful coexistence of different peoples and different cultures, built in the USSR / Russia. The West has a lot to learn from us ...
                2. +5
                  7 June 2016 21: 29
                  Quote: arnulla
                  If Russia ever falls apart, it’s largely because of people like you. Without numerous nations and nationalities, this will no longer be Russia. Or it’s not the same Russia that we all know

                  good drinks The CCCP ruined such sentiments. In Ukraine they thought that they were feeding the entire USSR, in the RSFSR they thought the same thing, from such "dumas" nationalist sentiments were fueled - and oppanki, this is the result! in Ukraine, but such lessons are not for the Basarevs, they have a rake - a favorite instrument, well, they like to step on and step on them, the Basarevs lack something in their heads ... But somehow, up to four stars reached laughing And it would be necessary to draw a skull and bones for such thoughts
              3. +10
                7 June 2016 14: 01
                I live on the Volga with the Tatars no problem.
                1. +7
                  7 June 2016 19: 49
                  Quote: ozon34rus
                  There are no problems with the Tatars.

                  Thank God, but I thought that I have one with the Adyghes, Circassians, Kumyks, Dagestanis, Armenians, Jews, etc., etc., there are no problems. laughing, and there are already two of us fellow drinks
                2. +3
                  7 June 2016 22: 46
                  I live in Yakutia - there are no problems with Russians :)
              4. +10
                7 June 2016 16: 49
                Quote: Basarev
                Do not drive the Buryats. They live in peace and harmony with the Russians - not as Caucasian and Central Asian bandits and not as Tatars who survived Russians from the Volga.

                Nobody expels me from the Volga :))) Everything is quiet here in Kazan drinks
                Friendship of Peoples. Recently I went to Bolgar for the 1000th anniversary of the adoption of Islam. Cool. There were plenty of Russians and Muslims. And on Easter, our Tatars rub their hands and say: "Here, we'll eat Easter !!!!" And some even go to the church and the mosque. So if Basarev has something to tell you, then go into the closet and speak there so that you won't be ashamed of the titular nation.
              5. +5
                7 June 2016 19: 35
                Article 282, part 1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity":
                1. Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of persons on the basis of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to any social group, committed in public or with the use of mass media or information and telecommunication networks, including the Internet, - shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period from one to two years, or by deprivation of the right hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or compulsory labor for up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or forced labor for up to four years, or imprisonment for the same period.


                Did not read? hi
              6. +6
                7 June 2016 20: 15
                Russia only then will remain Russia, as long as Russians, Tatars, Mordovians, Caucasians and all other peoples who live together with Russians in the same country live for more than one century.
            2. +1
              7 June 2016 12: 13
              he’s just from a hangover, and the head is a wavka))
            3. +1
              8 June 2016 12: 07
              as I understand it, everyone is commenting on the stupidity of a certain Basarev. And I do not see it, because long time ago in emergency situations, which I recommend to everyone. Add the troll to the black list, you see that he writes nasty things right away in emergency situations. The best fuel for the troll is the answer to his nonsense! Ignore kills them!
          2. +2
            7 June 2016 10: 43
            And who specifically-erzyu, moksha, and maybe w ...
        3. 0
          7 June 2016 10: 58
          Well, enough of you, and where are we going so dear?
        4. 0
          7 June 2016 11: 03
          without manifestation of nationalism please!
        5. +1
          7 June 2016 13: 17
          sober or something ...
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        7. 0
          7 June 2016 18: 39
          This is the path to self-isolation, defeat, and survival as a small relict dwarf people. Think what you write. Whoever does not seek allies and friends wherever possible is doomed to become a victim of the "anaconda". Even if now these people are strong and numerous.
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        9. +1
          7 June 2016 21: 02
          Filter the bazaar. 5 column.
        10. +1
          7 June 2016 22: 39
          Yes, you, my friend, a Nazi ... Your grandfather for whom it was interesting to fight in the Second World War and what would he tell you, if he knew that his granddaughter weaves 70 years after the victory over Nazism ... If I am not mistaken, more than 200 nationalities live in Russia and nationalities. I’m wondering how people like you (with a sense of unhealthy nationalism) want to build the Russian world only for Russians? How are you going to live without us? Purely fenced off from all in the territories adjacent to Moscow? How will you live without the Trans-Urals, Primorye, Siberia, the Caucasus?
          Or are you intentionally trying to sow the seeds of discord in our multinational country? So you are an enemy. The enemy of the people (and do not frown upon hearing this expression - things must be called by their proper names). And the attitude towards you should be appropriate - uranium mines cry for you ...
          Where are our special services looking? Do not they monitor the Internet? Such "citizens" should be identified and punished harshly and demonstratively. Russia's worst enemy is its internal enemy. And the most fertile soil for destabilizing the internal situation is interethnic relations.
      2. +7
        7 June 2016 11: 59
        Quote: Dangerous
        It is not clear what the author suggests and where to jump.

        And nothing and nowhere. This is from the category "I propose to offer"! No suggestions, no specifics, no analysis, naked populism and retelling of what was said 1000 times.
      3. +3
        7 June 2016 12: 28
        The author is a two-faced dog, which means that NATO’s training is like a frog jumping, and Russian training is just a decision to jump. And do our strategic missile carriers make friendship visits to the US shores?
      4. 0
        7 June 2016 21: 56
        Quote: Dangerous
        Simply, if you write such an article and ask yourself a question, then it is advisable to offer something. Otherwise, all this is an empty chatter

        In half the case it happens. Saying that we have problems is easy, but to propose real solutions to them is quite another. In principle, the fact that people raise such questions is by no means bad, but as the classic said:
        The thing is sauce, how to serve.
        You can write an article in the spirit of a calm statement of any facts, in this case, the teachings of the "partners", and offer to discuss this, or you can start whining in the spirit:
        Chef, everything is gone - the plaster is removed, the client leaves.
        In my opinion, the article is closer to the second option.
      5. 0
        7 June 2016 22: 25
        It’s not clear what the author suggests and where to jump.


        Here I am about the same. The United States is launching these teachings in order to preserve the face of the face, for trust is falling, it is necessary to restore, for trust for the United States is a real golden synecure. What good will they think that they are not the very best, and stop trusting, and then the dollar and loans and God still knows what, and then look at the moon and they did not fly .... terrible things! So the author suggests playing along with the Americans? Show a grin of a bear? Let svidomye jump, they do well.
      6. +1
        8 June 2016 00: 37
        Quote: Dangerous
        It is not clear what the author suggests and where should we jump?


        The author writes - "...In contrast to us, NATO "jumps".. "
        Here .. and the video is how NATO jumps:



        Let us hope that our leaders and military leaders take appropriate measures. smile
      7. 0
        8 June 2016 12: 03
        Quote: Dangerous
        Lower the iron curtain

        As a rule, this is done by our partners. They came up, they realized.
        Only Russia ALWAYS leaves a field for negotiations. Saxons, on the other hand, always cut the ropes, and when certain agreements (such as missile defense) are not profitable for them, they simply come out of them stupidly.

        Quote: Dangerous
        It’s just that if you write such an article and ask a question, then you can preferably offer something

        the author suggested:
        It's time to learn from the Americans their pragmatic approach. With whom you will lead ... It's time to act and only so that it solves Russian problems. Our interests should be above all for us. Probably, it is time to abandon the manner of "taking into account the interests of the states of the region."

        If I understood correctly, the author had in mind that the Russian Federation should not perceive symmetrically for any even minimal action directed against the Russian Federation. Conducted exercises near the Russian Federation? Based on our political, economic, commercial and other opportunities to put pressure on NATO members, constantly (!!!!) express both indignation and concern .. constantly! Send protest notes, fill up complaints through all channels. Like a mosquito over your ear. Until you talk about a problem, they don’t perceive it. Needless to say, the language should be scuffed in parallel with concrete actions. Otherwise there will be no sense.
        Take these dead Balts: they constantly demand trillions of tons of money for the Soviet occupation and for another 100500 reasons. No one among these idiots even hopes to get a cent from this amount, but a background is created that shows the "vegetables" of Europe (the population) who is the victim and who is the aggressor and the enemy.
        This is all technology.
        By the way, read about the Overton window technology. It seems I was not mistaken. Very interesting!
    2. +4
      7 June 2016 09: 40
      The minds of Russian leaders cannot be understood. You just have to believe in Russian leaders, making different decisions, but sitting on this log.
      1. 0
        7 June 2016 10: 25
        That's exactly formulated.
    3. +3
      7 June 2016 10: 21
      “Well, if I started with a parable ..” It’s not surprising to confuse a riddle with a parable if you don’t understand colloquial genres. Our Bolshoi Theater is older than the USA, and the author offers to study with them belay You have to live with your head. That's the whole "parable".
    4. +3
      7 June 2016 11: 00
      Patience is the greatest quality of a wise person. You can jump .... the whole question is where ??? We also conduct mass exercises in much larger volumes than NATO and more often. And the dwarf states with their armies are even dwarf ones, their position is to go astray .... because Russia is a giant armed to the teeth compared to them.
    5. 0
      7 June 2016 11: 35
      And there is also a cartoon about the cat Leopold - "Beware of the mean coward!"
    6. 0
      7 June 2016 12: 49
      Eh, with our wisest, as you write, NATO will soon stand near the Urals. Now it stands near Smolensk. And our "hands-on" all peaceful speeches about partners are and about how not to offend these partners, otherwise there is a sanction against druzhbanov will be introduced.
    7. 0
      7 June 2016 13: 55
      Wisdom is good when there is agreement. For ten years, we have been led by the wise and far-sighted. With how far-sightedness has been shown during this time! Very much. The only time is Crimea, but otherwise there are failures where there are no obvious. I listened to the head of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs Mr. Lavrov on NATO exercises in Finland .. Listen carefully very instructively. The right thing says but how. We will take measures Silence. The feeling that we are constantly making excuses. It seems that this is just an on-duty statement by our Foreign Ministry. We have learned how to clearly defend our interests, namely, the country. Today it was announced that Kiev was going to buy gas but only at a discount. Guess our decision. It is difficult to rule a country where the elite is not united. Solutions are often half-hearted. There is the only solution where there is a clear understanding of the most serious task. I am talking about Syria. Truce knock out the chair from under the friends of the opposition. But this is probably a difficult task. To show the double-facedness of our colleagues. You think they don’t know this. That’s why they know how to pour dirt on us. That the Yankees refused to overthrow Assad. Of course not. They made bloody porridge .. Probably have to use aviation again and bring the shaitans to life ..
    8. +3
      7 June 2016 16: 40
      Very true thought. Thanks to the Kudrins, we integrated and became painfully dependent on our enemies. They do whatever they wish, and we have to wipe ourselves off for good deeds. This is a systemic problem that requires a change of elite to true patriots, not Edrosov. Only this will be able to balance the entire domestic and foreign policy of the state, finance, defense and all-all-all. As always, the snickering careerist scammers who are firmly settled in warm places are to blame.
    9. 0
      7 June 2016 20: 07
      Quote: okunevich_rv
      And the article is intelligible and the parable of the noble. decisions and actions are hasty and not right, more than once in the history of states, but are right, righteous, and deliberate. Now all hope for the wisdom of our leaders. The determination and reason in our leadership have already been proven. Citizen support is also available.



      The most interesting thing is that the West jumped earlier ... He heated the pan and slipped it from below. You can jump and fry, you can wait until it cools down, or find a different way. But in any case, you need to calculate the risks.
  2. +7
    7 June 2016 06: 51
    Oh, these gonorrhea Psheks, they all won’t get itchy sphincter ... they chose allies, but they forgot to look at the history and go for their peace ... nu-nu, the next section hasn’t been canceled ....
    1. +3
      7 June 2016 09: 44
      Yes, come on, colleague! Psheki themselves never admit that they pissed away all their achievements. They got bogged down a long time ago, they only raised it (as always) to valor and again there is reason for "pride".
  3. +13
    7 June 2016 06: 58
    As for the interests of Russia, I completely agree: there simply are no more countries left whose interests we have not touched to one degree or another. And in most cases - only virtually, in their inflamed imagination. But regarding the analogy with the teachings of NATO countries and adherents, I would like to note the following: they are undergoing combat coordination, and we simply have no one to do with this. Again, in our allies, only the army and navy (in the broad sense). There is no one to rely on, only on oneself.
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 07: 15
      It is for the better, there is no one to get along with - less contradictions. "Before we unite, we must decisively delimit ourselves ..." And we do not need to delimit ourselves ... But I have great doubts about NATO's unity ... in the event of a real conflict.
      1. +2
        7 June 2016 09: 15
        With whom to "get along" there will always be more than one Yankee bombing their own and allies in Afghanistan. Improving the interaction between the branches of the military is always useful!
      2. 0
        7 June 2016 12: 16
        Ale-ale, did you forget the CSTO? That's who we will deal with! )))
        1. +3
          7 June 2016 12: 32
          CSTO fiction, the system will work only in the event of a global conflict ... probably. None of the CSTO members sent their soldiers to Syria.
          1. 0
            7 June 2016 22: 59
            Syria is not included in the tasks of the Collective Security Treaty Organization
    2. 0
      7 June 2016 07: 24
      Quote: inkass_98
      and we just don’t have anyone to do with it

      Belarusians?
      1. +3
        7 June 2016 14: 17
        Belarusians?
        yes figs knows them - recently they began to withdraw globes from which the Crimean peninsula belongs to Russia. I’m really not catching up with such acts from the administration, fiscal authorities from Belarus (
      2. 0
        7 June 2016 23: 01
        And Armenia yet. Of all the CSTO members, only the armies of Belarus and Armenia are more or less combat-ready (I think the Armenian army is more so than the Belarusian one)
  4. +3
    7 June 2016 07: 10
    Something I do not understand what the author wants? A seriously wounded bear get out of the bushes and jump in front of the nose full of tiger powers? Is it too early to ride. Putin is doing the right thing in a hurry. We don’t have enough strength to measure them with the West.
    1. +9
      7 June 2016 07: 27
      A bear, so the second millennium stretches, always wounded. There was still no time in our history when everything was fine with us.
      But there were attempts to sit out and "lick the wounds". And the last one is just about 71 years old. I can't sit out. The enemy creeps up to the den. Then he gets it. But what does it cost the bear? Maybe it's time to walk near the enemy mink?
      1. 0
        7 June 2016 11: 02
        to preempt or what?
      2. +2
        7 June 2016 16: 52
        Maybe it’s time already for a walk near the enemy mink?
        Suggest to "hit" from all calibers ?? Isn't it too early? ........ and by whom? in Poland? Finland?
    2. +3
      7 June 2016 10: 43
      Quote: sergeyzzz
      We don’t have enough strength to measure ourselves with the West

      And we never had enough strength. All the wars that the West started against Russia were with the overwhelming advantage of the West. The West, he is smart, attacks only with an advantage! Our people came to the rescue because we rallied in a moment of danger, and neither countries, together, nor separately, could wage a war of attrition with us.
  5. +4
    7 June 2016 07: 18
    The fleet in the Baltic was practically not updated, and NATO aviation can also create a significant advantage. The Kaliningrad region deeply penetrates into the enemy’s position and its communications in case of war are difficult and not reliable.
    My question is: in the event of the beginning of active hostilities, will our forces occupy a dead defense or will our tactics in the event of a full-scale war be tightly linked to delivering nuclear strikes deep into Europe?
    Such a scenario seems unrealistic in view of the possibility of an escalation of the conflict, up to the exchange of ballistic missile strikes. However, NATO is building up conventional weapons in the region and we are trying to modernize our non-nuclear forces. How can events unfold if, for example, the flagship of the US Sixth Fleet, a command ship “Mount Whitney” will break in half from a strong explosion under the bottom and quickly sink to the bottom along with the command staff of these same exercises?
    1. +12
      7 June 2016 07: 33
      I welcome Aleksey. And can there be a big war with a nuclear power without the use of nuclear weapons? Those factors that are really mentioned and are taken into account by our General Staff. The Kaliningrad region will be about the same as Crimea is becoming in the World Cup. Only in the Baltic.
      The Russia-NATO confrontation in conventional weapons is death to us today. We win in the class of armaments, but in terms of quantity it is far behind. Therefore, they twitch. They want to get what they think before the rearmament of our armed forces.
      1. +6
        7 June 2016 09: 47
        Greetings to Alexander. It’s always been a mystery to me where the line is, beyond which you can begin to use nuclear weapons.
        Now, if NATO, for example, deploys a large number of strike systems and, by all indications, begins to put this "machine" on high alert, then they need to issue a warning through diplomacy and conduct a military demonstration of our capabilities.
        But if they do not reduce readiness, and according to intelligence they are waiting for a conditional code signal ("corsair777" for example), is it already possible to detonate a nuclear warhead somewhere in the uninhabited region of the North Atlantic or is it too early to do it?
        Or another case: the Polish battalion conducts exercises near our border, and then crosses it with battle and takes up defense on our territory. Well, I see ... the battalion can be destroyed or knocked back by joining the combined arms battle with it, but what to do in this a moment with suitable reserves? In addition, does this battalion support artillery from the depths and air supremacy must be ensured. Do you want to continue the destruction of the aggressor by conventional means or is it already the time when they call from Moscow and it's time to print the bag from the safe?
        Maybe I gave some rude examples, but I want to know where is the "red thread" after which the aggressor must curtail the operation and play the war back, or the aggressor does not stop and he will need to stop nuclear weapons.
        After all, this is a political decision in the competence of our senior leadership, the Supreme Command and the confidants. And since the decision is non-standard and colossal in its consequences, with an incredible share of responsibility, I would like to know "how is all this going to be resolved." The military charter does not say about this and is not publicly discussed anywhere, but I'm interested to know.
        Already, it hurts gray from clouds to be at our borders ...
      2. +2
        7 June 2016 14: 24
        Or maybe a big war with a nuclear power without the use of nuclear weapons?
        Nowadays they go. In different versions and types, but the meaning is the same. Strong (USA) finds a bully (without nuclear weapons) and pushes into a direct armed conflict towards his opponent (with nuclear weapons). Naturally against the so-called Nuclear warfare is not used, but everything passes through the hulk as through a large pipe: testing new types of weapons, developing tactics, injecting new ideology, etc. etc.
        With one injection of poison, you can dump an elephant.
        In general, the fact that they work out combat coordination and interaction during the exercises is bad for us. The fact that they spend large amounts of money on it and not the fact that they will be worked out is good. We now need a balance and replenishment and increase in our own forces, and this depends on the leadership of the country.
    2. +3
      7 June 2016 10: 45
      Read carefully the military doctrine of the Russian Federation. Everything is said there.
      1. +1
        7 June 2016 19: 58
        For those who are too lazy to look for a doctrine and read it:

        27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to
        use nuclear weapons in response to use against them and
        (or) its allies nuclear and other types of weapons of mass
        defeat, as well as in case of aggression against the Russian
        Conventions with conventional weapons when at risk
        posed the very existence of the state.
        The decision on the use of nuclear weapons is made
        President of the Russian Federation.

        Purely hypothetically, after all, a battalion of Poles can "endanger the very existence of the state"? fellow Well, we have such a "fearful" President. feel lol
        Well then, don't be offended!
    3. 0
      7 June 2016 10: 45
      Read carefully the military doctrine of the Russian Federation. Everything is said there.
    4. +2
      7 June 2016 13: 37
      "... communications are difficult and unreliable ..."
      I think the "partners" thought about it. 31 thousand in Poland is quite enough for an attack on the Kaliningrad region, and the contingent in the Baltics is enough to repel the troops breaking through the corridor in the KO. This, apparently, was the recent film about a command and control unit with a nuclear strike.
      As for communications, the only free way is by sea. But we must bear in mind that the ports in the Gulf of Finland freeze in winter, and transports are a standard target.
  6. +8
    7 June 2016 07: 18
    Where to jump? Dear author. Our exercises are also called the truth, but they don’t change the essence. And the troops are deployed for thousands of kilometers and we are learning in the Arctic and in Syria we can learn to jump further? In Poland or in Estonia to jump? Specify.
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 23: 10
      For 1000 years, we have one direction ... Where the threat comes from - to the West
  7. +2
    7 June 2016 07: 25
    Express "concern" or "deep regret" about?

    Will it help?
  8. -1
    7 June 2016 07: 25
    Yes, even let them jump, even jump (some jumped), they will say tired. They’ll get tired anyway.
  9. +3
    7 June 2016 07: 27
    We just need to carry out our teachings and evaluate our strength in terms of our ability to resist "Anaconda" and other creatures.
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 07: 35
      Exactly. Teaching, first of all, is an indication of what we need to pay attention to. How the enemy will act in a special period. That's all.
      So we must show that they will not succeed.
  10. +2
    7 June 2016 07: 40
    The real jump should be one and fatal for the enemy, every day our troops are moving somewhere, we are on our land and the NATO monkeys let them jump as much as they want, only I don’t see something to fight!
    1. +3
      7 June 2016 11: 16
      Quote: 73bor
      Let the NATO monkeys jump as much as they want, only I don’t see something to fight!

      When the NATO monkeys have a desire to fight, it will be too late! And this hour they are slowly creating a military advantage for themselves, a military advantage, just in case, waiting for Russia to weaken. What if Russia will be connected with someone by the war. Or after Putin, Yeltsin-Gorbachev will come. And they have everything ready!
  11. +1
    7 June 2016 07: 45
    And our task is not to succumb to provocations and continue rearmament.
    And again, our new divisions are on our border and
    mass exercises of our troops are not the answer?
    And how then should NATO respond to the flights of our strategists near its borders?
    And then, do you suggest that we begin to prepare for an attack on Europe? It's funny ...
    They do their job, we do our own.
    You can look at them, but do not repeat.
  12. +1
    7 June 2016 08: 06
    C'mon, let them jump. They have the right, in general. This is their business.
    We need to do our own thing and, when we achieve our goals, look back at the NATO dykes, complete madness! We asked for it ourselves, we just have to turn the life of the geyropets into a hysterical everyday nightmare! Let them repent for themselves, knowing firmly how many and what a monstrously destructive it is aimed at them.
  13. +4
    7 June 2016 08: 28
    It suggests that we conduct our exercises on the theme: "Our answer" - working out the prevention of the transfer of American units from the United States to Europe by sea and by air.
    "Baltika" - mining in order to prevent amphibious assault landing on the coast of the KOR with the suppression of the NATO command and control system.
  14. +1
    7 June 2016 08: 31
    Americans insist on increasing the military budgets of the NATO countries, and they push against all horns. Because with the dough in the EU now the situation is awful. And it won’t get any better.
    A couple of new terrorist attacks in France, and Europe will forget about these "anacondas".
  15. +4
    7 June 2016 08: 32
    the answer to a threat can only be a big threat! do we want to create a problem for "partners"? it is necessary to modernize the army, have professional high-tech troops and, plus to them, a wide number of reservists (conscripts who know how to handle a machine gun and move in a truck, armored personnel carrier, BMP), a combination of professionals with modern technical means and a mass of reservists will give the necessary effect to understand the foe of the futility of any invasion on our territory!
  16. 0
    7 June 2016 08: 38
    correctly! it is time to respond more rigorously to all attacks of the West.
  17. +1
    7 June 2016 09: 15
    What did the author want to convey with this article? What do you need to start a war now? To crave nuclear weapons in all that is possible?
  18. +1
    7 June 2016 09: 25
    Interestingly, when will our warriors come up with the idea to raise their backs from the warm Moscow and St. Petersburg apartments and move the headquarters of the command deeper than 300-400 km? Or will we rely on the world's best air defense? So, with a massive missile and bomb strike, it will not be a lot, but will there be at least some time to make decisions? The same "Porter" in the Black Sea can carry (if you throw out IJIS, and they have already done it 100%) 56 "Tomahawks", and what they can all have seen in Iraq and Yugoslavia. One thing is good that NATO members are planning their strikes according to old patterns: Center (Poland), South (Romania, Bulgaria), North (Finland, and now also the Baltic countries), but the joy that we know should not turn into euphoria ...
  19. -1
    7 June 2016 09: 48
    you read such articles and think: why do people think only as Americans want it? After all, they are just waiting for the moment when the Russian government will take rash steps and they will testify to the whole world that the Russians are bad, they are evil, they must be destroyed! Yes, then people will understand that they have done evil, but it will be later, after shed blood, after the destruction of many cities and countries! And in the end, as always (judging by the last two world won) only Amers will be fine, no one else! Therefore, let us not be likened to these modern barbarians and will conduct our peaceful policy.
  20. 0
    7 June 2016 10: 00
    There would be at least a desire to jump ...
  21. 0
    7 June 2016 10: 24
    The article is correct. We need to make a jump towards their borders. Well, for example, arrange a Russian - Cuban exercise and call them, let's say, "Flying over the frog's nest." For them (NATO), this will be our very sobering answer.
  22. +5
    7 June 2016 10: 38
    Clouds are gathering near the border ... Everything is causing serious concern. According to Stanislavsky, about the gun on the stage, certain associations arise here, and very unambiguous ... It is sad that we may not be able to rearm before 2020 ...
    And this "Anaconda" ... And I was just going to Pskov ...))
    1. +2
      7 June 2016 21: 34
      We are to these gathering clouds at the border of the drum - one Iskander nuclear missile and greetings to the entire thirty-thousandth group, and then there will be an exit from the INF, START 3 and a quick sweep of the Baltic states - further only frightened screams in Europe and overseas.
      1. 0
        7 June 2016 22: 01
        Quote: Vadim237
        Us on these thickening clouds on the border of the drum

        - Vadim, do you have this ... personal mega-shelter laughing
        - others, as a rule, do not have this at hand; therefore - not "us", but "you". Personally, you don't care wink

        Quote: Vadim237
        one Iskander nuclear missile and hello all thirty thousandth

        - Europe, at best; planet - at worst request

        Quote: Vadim237
        further only frightened screams in Europe and overseas

        - screams will quickly end, IMHO. And forever

        In general, why are you writing such things? What if someone from having access to the "Start" button also has such thoughts? I can't sleep, nafig laughing
        1. 0
          8 June 2016 11: 07
          To launch a nuclear missile, you need two keys that are stored in a safe, as well as a startup code - so you can sleep peacefully.
        2. 0
          8 June 2016 11: 17
          In the event of a possible conflict, you go to the resort, for a month - to Egypt or somewhere else, as long as nuclear warheads are torn here - you will get a tan on the beach, under the sun.
        3. 0
          8 June 2016 13: 10
          To launch a nuclear missile, you need two keys that are stored in a safe, as well as launch codes - so you can sleep peacefully. And in the event of a possible nuclear war, go abroad to the resort and while nuclear warheads are torn here you will get a tan under the sun on the beach - no one will notice this war there, life will continue.
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  23. +1
    7 June 2016 10: 50
    Quote: mpzss
    And in the end, as always (judging by the last two world won) only Amers will be fine, no one else! Therefore, let us not be likened to these modern barbarians and will conduct our peaceful policy.

    Here you are wrong, it will not be good for anyone, not for Amers, not for Europeans, not for us, the only difference will be in the damage done and if we and the mattress mats remain, then Europa will not be, from the word at all, because that starting hostilities with conventional weapons, the losing side, and in a war it will certainly be, will use nuclear weapons in any way, so that no one will sit out in the "bushes". Yes, the minus is not mine. And yet, in the modern world, a peaceful policy is perceived as a manifestation of weakness, and the weak, as you know, are offended by everyone.
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 23: 18
      Heh, in the event of a global conflict and subsequent exchanges of nuclear strikes, Africa will remain the most developed region in the world :))) And again, like 2 million years ago, Africa will become the cradle of humanity reborn after a nuclear war ...
  24. +1
    7 June 2016 12: 06
    again, these cries about jumping and the slogans that we will do what we want, we might think before that we didn’t do it ... but what about the way? Tank wedges in Europe daydreaming from yao bombing? It's a dream?
  25. 0
    7 June 2016 12: 37
    We are building a road to Anchorage for close contacts on the western continent with our sworn friends, and Poland has more pessimism ... They are always neighbors in slippers. It's time to get used to it ...
  26. +3
    7 June 2016 13: 14
    Dear, the situation around Russia is escalating and notice and you, like frogs, in your comments "need, need, throw, deploy, react", everything is in the future, but the present is needed, this is the first thing, we missed Russia (deliberately on a cunning plan or for powerlessness) it was the impact after the Crimea, went into defense both in politics and in the military sphere, I agree with the author and this is the objectivity of your interests need to be brought more stringently, including on treaties
  27. +3
    7 June 2016 13: 28
    "These exercises are defensive in nature and should be a response to the threats of the modern world, to show how ready we are to interact with our allies and partners," says Republican Deputy Minister of Defense Bartlomie Grabsky.

    Hitler and you and us, too, "promised a lot", do you think that we have forgotten as well as you?
  28. 0
    7 June 2016 14: 20
    In fact, these teachings, the teachings of the Last Chance))) America with mongrel so treated with its sanctions and controlled chaos that the next muscle shaking, they consider a way out of the situation, well, to encourage our liberals. Like we are here, already nearby. Only now all this Anaconda is nothing more than a whistle of steam. I think our Armed Forces are also conducting exercises on the destruction of command posts and the infrastructure of the United States themselves, only no one talks about it. So Anaconda will turn into a Uzhik)) Or maybe a HORROR. as our dear partners want.
  29. -6
    7 June 2016 15: 06
    Every month you have major exercises, why are you afraid?
    kaneshno fear and whisper two-faced whispering plans ...
    All these NATO exercises are just insurance against your paranoid "greatness" and gopian derzhavism. Live with yourself and do not climb to others.
    1. +4
      7 June 2016 16: 02
      Quote: Sausuolis
      All these NATO exercises are just insurance against your paranoid "greatness" and gopian derzhavism. Live with yourself and do not climb to others.

      Yah? Are we conducting an expeditious deployment of troops to Mexico? Or have we sent ships to the Gulf of Mexico, deployed "bears" to Cuba and began to practice landings somewhere in Varadero?

      So your advice is a bit off the mark.
      Yes, and you do not insure against those. A few more years - and in all EU cities, the New Year will be celebrated in Cologne.
      1. 0
        7 June 2016 20: 49
        And the third of October! hi
    2. +4
      7 June 2016 18: 19
      Quote: Sausuolis
      Every month you have major exercises, why are you afraid?
      kaneshno fear and whisper two-faced whispering plans ...
      All these NATO exercises are just insurance against your paranoid "greatness" and gopian derzhavism. Live with yourself and do not climb to others.

      Explain to us, the illiterate, what "nurturing plans" and everything else, otherwise we are not "advanced" here and do not understand the language in which you wrote.
    3. +2
      7 June 2016 20: 46
      Quote: Sausuolis
      Every month you have major exercises, why are you afraid?
      kaneshno fear and whisper two-faced whispering plans ...
      All these NATO exercises are just insurance against your paranoid "greatness" and gopian derzhavism. Live with yourself and do not climb to others.

      Who the fuck do you need? and learn the Russian language: all of a sudden it will come in handy
    4. +1
      7 June 2016 20: 47
      So far, the NATO members have climbed in, almost all of the codla! Sovereign you, uhhh!
      1. 0
        7 June 2016 22: 42
        Quote: sharp-lad
        So far, the NATO members have climbed in, almost all of the codla! Sovereign you, uhhh!

        So they prefer NATO instead of green men.
  30. +2
    7 June 2016 17: 24
    The feeling that the article is simply inflammatory. Like a bunch in a dark room. No suggestions, no options expressed. So - get a little bored, sort of like people relaxed.
  31. +2
    7 June 2016 17: 54
    I remember there were exercises in NATA and on a larger scale - the "Reforger" was called. Transfer from the United States by air from several tank divisions, acceptance of equipment from warehouses in Germany and forward to training grounds.
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 18: 52
      The main thing is that the Able Archer 83 does not happen again.
  32. +1
    7 June 2016 18: 38
    The author, besides "jumping" somewhere, offers nothing. More precisely, he suggests hysteria. And the Russian troops should not be hysterical. They are not some kind of mongrel. And they are well aware that they are capable of taking flight such maneuvers and movements as - "saber strike" in real conditions. And to look from the outside what the "partners" are capable of in the exercises is useful and draw conclusions.

    The parable about the frogs by Boris Krumer is good, but I will continue to finish it .... "Never confuse action with making a decision. Sometimes it seems to you that you have already jumped, but in reality you are still sitting on a log. Moreover, surrounded by the same , like you, amphibians ".... and let's also remember the anecdote about two bulls, young and old ..

    I will quote the rest and remember so here ...

    Two bulls - young and old - graze on top of a hill. At the foot
    hill - a herd of cows. The young goby joyfully jumps around the old,
    looks at the cows and asks:
    - Uncle bull, uncle bull, let's quickly run down and ..... Then everyone knows ... my opinion will be more correct
  33. 0
    7 June 2016 18: 43
    What are the suggestions for jumping to nowhere? Stand ready. There is no other option. I recall shots from some film about English archers: we execute the command "Hold", "Hold". Well, we will execute "Luuz" in one gulp, if the time comes.
  34. +1
    7 June 2016 19: 43
    The article is muddy, it is not clear what the author wants? What would he be taken to the TA-57 kitchen and hourly reported on what is being done and in what directions?

    At the beginning of the Crimean epic, the VKS exercises (then the Air Force were still) were already taking place, when almost 20 personnel, the latest military equipment and, most importantly, 000 aircraft were suddenly transferred to the Kaliningrad region ... The planes did not land in a bare field, so the infrastructure was prepared and it was a test ... The planes flew away, although a couple of su-130 and su-34 squadrons remained ... The old ones flew away .... The personnel left, but the equipment remained all ... The old equipment is regularly taken to the large landing craft to the mainland, so as not to violate the agreement, according to which the demilitarization of the zone was carried out at one time ... Well, two Iskander-M brigades disappeared into the local forests ... You don't need more, the area is unfortunately small and is being shot at considerable depth barrel artillery caliber 30.

    They wrote correctly above - it’s not the time to jump out of the bushes with a wounded bear .... not the time while the bushes need to be equipped.

    In the region, it was decided to restore several previously reduced military units, intensive work is underway to bring the barracks fund and parks to an acceptable state. Soldiers have already appeared and are going to the bathhouse, from which people after the El Qing era are already weaned ... And the streets are not sweeping before the barracks as before ... We are not rushing things, all the same the balance of power is not equal.

    The Kaliningrad enclave is the launching pad of the Iskander ... Everything, the group located here will not be able to conduct long defensive actions, because it will be immediately cut into pieces (see map)

    All this not healthy garbage with fuss around the borders of Russia has a different direction - to knock money out of NATO countries on the imaginary Russian threat, and on orders that the US industry will fulfill. Since many countries that joined NATO have granted the United States external defense powers. And therefore, in recent years 20 they have been doing so well with their social status. For none of them spent money either on research and development, or on the creation and production of new types of weapons.

    That’s why you need a Bear to be scared of .... To get the new appropriations in the parliaments of NATO countries. There are not fools sitting there and understand.
    I communicate closely with the Lithuanians, there is generally hysteria for all SI ... True, they cannot answer the question - why should Russia capture these Baltic states?
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 23: 41
      And how is it in the Kaliningrad Region, 1 Moscow-Minsk Proletarian Division now. As a matter of fact, in Dolgorukovo, Gvardeysk.
  35. +3
    7 June 2016 19: 43
    It's time to get ready ...
    1) Restore all wired telephone service in the country.
    2) Equip bomb shelters in each house / quarter.
    3) Introduce mandatory annual military training for the male and (optional) female population. Nursing courses for women.
    4) Prepare small arms for millions of potential recruits.
    5) Distribute components for weapons to all existing workshops, workshops, industries in the country. So that everyone knows what to start producing in case of "beginning". Etc. etc.
    Maybe I'm not in the know, and we have similar pre-mobilization events?
    1. 0
      7 June 2016 21: 41
      In Russia, new warehouses for armaments, clothing and food are being built - and there is no money for everything else that you have proposed - only the troops of the Russian Chemical Forces will increase 10 times.
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    2. 0
      7 June 2016 23: 28
      PPSh and T-55/64 in warehouses think enough is stored for mobilized ...
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  37. 0
    7 June 2016 21: 21
    Yes, the teachings themselves are all bullshit wink we need to call our sudden checks as something colored, well there: "A bear tearing an anaconda" fellow or "Nuclear cudgel against" saber strike "while always adding - all matches are completely random! wink We miss it what well, how is it there? fool And I remembered !!! CREATIVE !!! good
  38. 0
    8 June 2016 05: 35
    Here is a strange impression. There is an article. The words are correct. Everything is fine, sort of ... But there remains a feeling of dissatisfaction - but what are we calling for? Jump to where? How? With whom? On whom? A sort of article in general and about nothing.
  39. 0
    8 June 2016 13: 40
    Once upon a time, my teacher told me an old parable. Three frogs sat on a log. And then one of them decided to jump into the water. How many frogs are left on the log? Gracefully!
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