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Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood

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Ukrainian officials offer options for how to achieve the country's “energy independence”. First, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Igor Nasalik, proposed to transfer all thermal power plants (combined heat and power plants) of the country to coal supply and to refuse to use natural gas. However, officials of the State Forest Resources Agency of Ukraine suggest going even further.

Thus, the first deputy head of the above-mentioned department, Kristina Yushkevich, came up with an initiative to transfer Ukrainian heat and power plants to ... firewood. According to Ms. Yushkevich, there is enough “illiquid” wood in Ukraine to “fully ensure the operation of thermal power plants”.

Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood


Kristina Yushkevich (quote TASS):
Only in the Sumy region of such wood ("illiquid") about 300 thousand cubic meters. These wood resources can be rationally and effectively used for the region by replacing fuel at CHP plants.


About this official from the "forest" agency said during the on-site meeting of the VRU committee on budget execution, held in the city of Shostka. In addition, Ms. Yushkevich proposed to increase from 18% to 20% the forest area in the same Sumy region, saying that increasing the percentage of forest area in Ukraine would allow “more efficient use of energy resources”.

If Mrs. Yushkevich is seriously going to heat the boilers of the heat and power plant with wood, then the next generations of Ukrainians will be able to learn what forest is, perhaps, only from TV shows about wildlife ...
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  1. Awaz
    Awaz 6 June 2016 13: 00
    +1
    along the way, they were going to cut in Siberia ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 6 June 2016 13: 01
      +13
      What for? In parks.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 June 2016 11: 00
        0
        Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood

        By the fact that in my head instead of brains firewood! fool laughing
    2. The black
      The black 6 June 2016 13: 01
      +47
      Super. i like their idea laughing ..... save on gas by transferring furnaces to firewood ..... now let them calculate how much the technical re-equipment of gas boilers at a thermal power station will cost, the organization of automated fuel supply, ash removal, debugging of thermal processes ..... Something tells me that this official will be the first to be thrown into the furnace wassat
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 6 June 2016 13: 06
        +7
        Steam boilers are hardly possible to bring to operating temperature with firewood. During the war and the revolution, steam locomotives were of course drowned with firewood, but because of need and not very productively .. Modern systems will not work at all
        1. 933454818
          933454818 6 June 2016 13: 21
          +11
          Probably somehow possible, if you put a device for turning firewood into sawdust, then blow these sawdust into the furnace, the temperature, of course, will drop compared to coal or gas, but if the goal is set ..... But this is not the main thing, just for food A CHP needs several echelons of coal per day, echelons of firewood will need, of course, more, for how long will those wood in Ukraine last? For a month or two? And then?
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 7 June 2016 11: 03
            0
            Quote: 933454818
            several echelons of coal per day, echelons of firewood will need, of course, more, for how long will those firewood in Ukraine last? For a month or two? And then?

            And then again GAS and COAL! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Thrall
          Thrall 6 June 2016 13: 24
          +20
          Firewood in Ukraine is now in trend laughing
        3. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 June 2016 13: 33
          +5
          This is the most important question: how much will all the trees of the country last in case of such an experiment. Given the calorific value of raw wood.
          Interestingly, for six months is enough or less?
          I don’t stutter about the possibility of maintaining the necessary temperature parameters, automating the supply of firewood in the stove, removing ash, etc.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 6 June 2016 13: 55
            +15
            Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood

            Pets were the first to respond to this initiative: smile
        4. coolvoldik
          coolvoldik 6 June 2016 16: 07
          +7
          The official, apparently, does not know what the calorific value of fuel is.
          For firewood 2500-3300 kcal \ kg
          For coal 6000-7500 kcal \ kg
          In gas, the calorific value is one and a half times higher than in coal.
          So: Firewood for the operation of the CHP will need weight twice as much as coal, but for volume, it will be four times more than the volume of coal. I think for those who saw coal reserves at the CHPPs, they can imagine if they need to be quadrupled ...!
          1. zennon
            zennon 6 June 2016 20: 12
            +1
            Quote: coolvoldik
            So: Firewood for the operation of the thermal power plant will need twice as much weight as coal, and in volume, it will be four times as much as coal. I think for those who saw coal reserves at the CHPPs, they can imagine if they need to be quadrupled ...!

            And ash? Has its quantity been calculated? How to remove it! In addition, it should be borne in mind that different batches of firewood will have different humidity. This should be taken into account accordingly. It is much more difficult to load firewood into the compositions, and then they need to be processed into wood chips. Yes, this is stupid all! I wonder if this chicken graduated from high school?
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        6. kotvov
          kotvov 6 June 2016 16: 28
          +5
          Modern systems will not work at all,
          it will not be anywhere, but in Ukraine it will be. you forget about the intellectual reserve of the Svidomo-engineer department of the regiment ,, love the basics
        7. Vasiliev Yu
          Vasiliev Yu 6 June 2016 16: 36
          +6
          Well, why don’t they even try to transfer the Zaporizhzhya NPP to firewood?
          Now it will be a change so much change.
        8. UralMan
          UralMan 6 June 2016 20: 00
          +1
          Quote: AwaZ
          Modern systems will not work at all

          ------------
          but I think so ...
          and not try to heat them dung?
          and this good there in bulk ... step step so dung
        9. Skifotavr
          Skifotavr 7 June 2016 06: 52
          +1
          Quote: AwaZ
          Steam boilers are hardly possible to bring to operating temperature with firewood. During the war and the revolution, steam locomotives were of course drowned with firewood, but because of need and not very productively .. Modern systems will not work at all

          Listen to these clowns more. They will not offer such a thing.
      2. krops777
        krops777 6 June 2016 13: 08
        +12
        Super. I like their idea of ​​laughing ..... with saving on gas by transferring fireboxes to fire ..... now let them calculate how much the technical re-equipment of gas boilers at a thermal power plant will cost, organizing automated fuel supply, ash removal, debugging thermal processes .... .


        And why think about it, the main thing is to declare your EuroMaidness louder.
      3. Moore
        Moore 6 June 2016 13: 14
        +8
        Automated fuel supply is for quilted jackets. For tseuropeitsiv everything is easier - it is enough for the Cossack Gavrilyuk to say: "Get out!" - firewood is already chopped and in the firebox.
        Passion for flying dumplings is indestructible in 404.
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      5. Very old
        Very old 6 June 2016 13: 15
        +4
        And I like

        It remains to drag the rationalizer - what is the difference between gas and solid fuel
        Perhaps understand fool
      6. Sharapov
        Sharapov 6 June 2016 13: 17
        +5
        Perverted as they can.
        My father, a pensioner, lives in Ukraine - at one time he worked as a security guard at a private factory (part-time boiler operator). Do you think what they drowned there? ... Briquettes - waste from the processing of sunflower. The scum and dirt are utter. As in hell ...
        By the way, he lives in the Sumy region - and not very much of that forest is there - mainly the steppe.
        1. Anglorussian
          Anglorussian 6 June 2016 22: 10
          0
          Briquettes - waste from the processing of sunflower. The scum and dirt are utter. As in hell ...
          Makukha seems to go to livestock feed ...
      7. avt
        avt 6 June 2016 13: 20
        +3
        Quote: Black
        Super. i like their idea

        This is what, at the time it was, when the first tire was not already set on fire, but only there was a hassle on the site about euro-integration. The Great Ukrainians were offered to collect shit on the subject of creating a resource of eneogetic independence. Well, as long as we got to the firewood, it began to be - not yet evening. laughing
        1. 0895055116
          0895055116 6 June 2016 18: 04
          +1
          Dear, you missed such a UNIQUE FUEL as "DUMP" from domestic animals - cows, goats, sheep, and the turn of "shit" will either come on fire, or they will be fed with "dung" to increase the calorific value of the "fuel"!
          1. zennon
            zennon 6 June 2016 20: 17
            0
            Quote: 0895055116
            You missed such a UNIQUE FUEL like "DUMP" from domestic animals - cows, goats, sheep,

            So it is missing:

            The number of cattle in Ukraine is declining
            The State Statistics Service reports that the number of cattle in Ukraine as of November 1, 2015 decreased by 5,4% to 4,19 million heads compared to the same period in 2014.
            According to the State Statistics Service, including the number of cows for this period decreased by 5,2% to 2,24 million heads, the number of pigs decreased by 3,8% to 7,69 million heads, sheep and goats by 4,0 %, up to 1,571 million heads. In addition, a decrease in the number of birds was observed - by 3,2%, to 229,54 million heads.
      8. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 6 June 2016 13: 25
        +5
        Well, I probably read somewhere about pellets .. But this is for low-power boilers with appropriate automation .. and the head of those who peck at it. In general, for cottages somewhere in the Perm Territory, this is a good thing — burn sawmills. The woman decided the Chernobyl forest lime and receive Chernobyl benefits for the liquidators (well, for it on a particularly large scale) .... In general, the more such leaders there are, the better for the Ukrainians, the sooner the nationalistic veil will fly off ..
      9. Hellraiser
        Hellraiser 6 June 2016 15: 08
        +7
        Shaw then tells me that this wassat official will be the first to be thrown into the furnace

        That's right! lol
        How long is that forest?
        And it will be after: Planet Shilizyaka: Vegetation - NO.
        Natural resources-NO.
        Populated - DB.
      10. Alekseev
        Alekseev 6 June 2016 15: 26
        +3
        Quote: Black
        Shaw then tells me that this official will be the first to be thrown into the furnace

        No need to the furnace!
        The more such idiots, the closer the time when the ruin will collapse. And this is an absolutely indispensable condition for the reign of peace and prosperity in the "Southwest direction".
      11. Corsair
        Corsair 6 June 2016 15: 36
        +7
        Quote: Black
        Super. I like their idea of ​​laughing ..... with saving on gas by transferring fireboxes to firewood ..... now let them calculate how much the technical re-equipment of gas boilers at a thermal power plant will cost

        laughing Yes, everything is fine, remember who our officials mostly work with? Usually those who do nothing can do it themselves, except how to work with the language, and their heads are there to have it.
        Our "mistress" in St. Petersburg also offered to shoot down suckers with a laser - and this is from the same opera.
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 6 June 2016 13: 09
      +4
      And from the fact that they will not burn, they will make military Pinocchio?))))
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 6 June 2016 13: 32
        +3
        Quote: vodolaz
        And from the fact that they will not burn, they will make military Pinocchio?))))

        Combat "Chebureshek", rather))
    4. The black
      The black 6 June 2016 13: 10
      +1
      Soon from space it will be possible to observe bald Carpathians laughing
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 6 June 2016 13: 11
      +10
      It seems that this dill CHP is confused with a potbelly stove laughing Although, there is still dung, brushwood, straw and fallen leaves.
    7. xolod_22
      xolod_22 6 June 2016 13: 11
      +3
      Their ears are donkey, not the Siberian forest.
    8. From Udmurtia
      From Udmurtia 6 June 2016 20: 10
      0
      Yes, to hell with them, Siberia.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 6 June 2016 13: 00
    +11
    There is no limit to cretinism ukrovinovnikov! It just can’t come to a normal person’s head!
    Maybe she thinks that wood, like coal from underground, is mined? Or there are winter and spring trees - sowed in spring or autumn, and in summer you collect a crop of good, ten-meter ash-trees and oaks ??? D, B ... !!! fool fool fool
    They will soon turn the Carpathians into the Karakum desert, relict forests with the most valuable tree species are cut down at such a frantic speed.
    1. The black
      The black 6 June 2016 13: 02
      +10
      Not what? Comrades are on the right track .... although why firewood? ... you can heat tires laughing
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 6 June 2016 13: 32
        +2
        This is not Hochma, I saw this at a flax mill in the Smolensk region in 1988 .. As they later cleaned the screen pipes and the furnace, I did not see ..
        Quote: Black
        Not what? Comrades are on the right track .... although why firewood? ... you can heat tires laughing
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 6 June 2016 13: 59
        0
        You can also drown the bodies of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the National Guard and terrorist battalion with corpses - there is a lot of material there.
      3. quote
        quote 6 June 2016 15: 59
        +1
        Quote: Black
        . although why firewood? ... you can heat tires

        Tires are not allowed. Without them, in winter, the cerebellum anlage freezes.
        How in the cold with an uncovered "attic"?
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 6 June 2016 13: 03
      +6
      What do you? Great idea. Bonfires, boilers, boiling water. Proven technology. But the most important thing is that Putin will be so angry! She won’t be able to eat directly.
    3. Wolverine
      Wolverine 6 June 2016 13: 03
      +5
      Yeah, it's like diluting gasoline with donkey urine ...
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 June 2016 14: 16
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      They will soon turn the Carpathians into the Karakum desert, relict forests with the most valuable tree species are cut down at such a frantic speed.

      And they are on the drum.
      They live on the new calendar: No Brain, No Gas, No Coal, No Forest, No Wood ... what else? They all then leave to Europe to live.
  3. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross 6 June 2016 13: 02
    +5
    Have you tried cow dough? More economical and efficient.
    1. AVV
      AVV 6 June 2016 13: 30
      +3
      Kizyak, it was suggested earlier that they should be sinking absolutely !!! This is the best and most economical way to Euro integration !!! The clowns have not yet been transferred to, but not to Ukraine !!!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 June 2016 14: 02
      +3
      Soon peat will be mined there, and in the same place, fallen leaves all over Ukraine - for "Kindling"
  4. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 6 June 2016 13: 03
    +20
    Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood
    This "comrade" has long figured out how to warm the country ...
  5. iConst
    iConst 6 June 2016 13: 03
    +8
    And what do we care about the "creativity" of their officials?

    Are you all right with yours?
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    2. Dali
      Dali 6 June 2016 13: 40
      +4
      Quote: iConst
      Are you all right with yours?

      That’s why you need to look around to understand what our officials can turn into ... if you do nothing.
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 6 June 2016 16: 44
        +1
        It’s just interesting to find out how intelligence flourished in Ukraine in a “European” way.
  6. Barakuda
    Barakuda 6 June 2016 13: 03
    +3
    And translate it into three meals a day - Mon, Wed, Fri. Damaging.
  7. The black
    The black 6 June 2016 13: 04
    +2
    And for the straw i kizyaki zabuli sad
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 6 June 2016 13: 05
    +5
    The theme of dungs ​​is not disclosed ... what
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 6 June 2016 13: 08
      +2
      Evil Partisan (3) RU  Today, 13: 05Not disclosed the theme of dunks.

      ,,, it's a long conversation (how many recipes are different) wassat ,, I still found (how to cook them and took part) ,,, laughing,,, purely ecological product ,, laughing
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    3. a housewife
      a housewife 6 June 2016 16: 21
      +2
      So that dungs ​​should be drowned, dunks should be taken from somewhere. And they are already eating cattle. Because hay and straw were already drowned.
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  9. volodya
    volodya 6 June 2016 13: 08
    +2
    God help them, let them try! I have long said: madhouse!
  10. xolod_22
    xolod_22 6 June 2016 13: 10
    +3
    The question is that they smoke there ?? This same straw with dung? The lady hardly imagines the work of the CHP.
    1. volodya
      volodya 6 June 2016 15: 59
      +1
      Quote: xolod_22
      The question is that they smoke there ?? This same straw with dung? The lady hardly imagines the work of the CHP.

      She most likely did not even see the CHP from a distance!
  11. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 6 June 2016 13: 11
    +6
    Andrei Tutyshkin foresaw and departed in "Wedding in Malinovka" how the Okraintsy would live after the Maidan. And Georgy Danelia with his film "Kin-Dza-Dza" predicted how it would end in Ukraine.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 6 June 2016 13: 16
      0
      An interesting observation good
  12. sergey2017
    sergey2017 6 June 2016 13: 12
    +5
    This topic is not new to brainless Ukrainian officials! They in Ukraine mean "illiquid" (contaminated with radiation) wood for the operation of thermal power plants from the exclusion zone of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant! !
  13. Wiruz
    Wiruz 6 June 2016 13: 12
    0
    Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood

    And also this .... "biofuel" can be laughing
  14. morpogr
    morpogr 6 June 2016 13: 14
    +14
    The further you go, the more fun and fun it is to listen to Ukrainian officials and politicians. laughing
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 6 June 2016 13: 51
      +2
      Quote: morpogr
      The farther, the fun and fun


      Your picture is funny, we also have these fellow

  15. Eustace
    Eustace 6 June 2016 13: 16
    +4
    They forgot about skins from lard, they can also heat thermal power plants. laughing We urgently need to throw a cry all over Ukraine: "Hand over skins from lard to Horn and Kopyta.ua LLC." good
    1. Dali
      Dali 6 June 2016 13: 46
      +3
      Quote: Eustace
      About skins from bacon forgot

      Yes, they didn’t ... they didn’t forget ... only now it’s very expensive for them, the skins are from Polish bacon ... laughing

      They will only dream of their fat soon.
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    3. Comrade Glebov
      Comrade Glebov 6 June 2016 13: 46
      +5
      I’m afraid that skins from lard may very soon become a delicacy. In the furnace of their nizya.
  16. Donlomakin
    Donlomakin 6 June 2016 13: 16
    +3
    Only in the Sumy region of such wood ("illiquid") about 300 thousand cubic meters. These wood resources can be rationally and effectively used for the region by replacing fuel at CHP plants.
    A good idea! And to Mrs. Yushkevich to hand a saw, so that her words do not diverge from the deed fellow
  17. Enoch
    Enoch 6 June 2016 13: 23
    +4
    Then the nuclear power plants will be transferred to firewood - woe from ukrum.
    1. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 6 June 2016 16: 48
      +1
      I also wrote about this, sorry, before I reached your comment.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 June 2016 13: 24
    +2
    The lady does not know how to count at all. Firewood cubes are not coal, but even if that were the case, a station of 1 million kW of all the wood they talk about would be enough for 3 weeks. Not to mention the general technical feasibility of such a "rework".
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 June 2016 13: 25
    +2
    Well, she just thinks so, in volumes, no larger than a stove-potbelly stove.
    She would be at least at a thermal power plant on a tour ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 June 2016 14: 10
      +1
      Those who have grandmas will switch to geothermal heating, Supplement -
  20. 96423lom
    96423lom 6 June 2016 13: 27
    +2
    Probably I read Nikolai Ostrovsky, only Pavka Korchagin was gone, but a hundred years have passed - the thermal power plants will not work on firewood.
  21. dsm100
    dsm100 6 June 2016 13: 28
    +2
    And also on straw and cow "cakes" ...
  22. Bramb
    Bramb 6 June 2016 13: 29
    +4
    Correct solution!
    But to cut the forest with only a two-handed saw, otherwise you need gasoline for a chainsaw - and this is not patriotic.
    But you can also put straw into the matter. And if you dry human excrement, of which the reserves are inexhaustible, then the Muscovites will die of envy (not out of laughter, but precisely out of envy!).
    In general, the right way you go, neighbors!
  23. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 6 June 2016 13: 30
    +1
    After the firewood runs out, to show TV shows about wildlife with forest and trees, again you will need damned electricity (what are you going to do!). So - you may not know what a forest is in general.
  24. Sasha75
    Sasha75 6 June 2016 13: 39
    +3
    Of course this is stupid, but this is the face of the modern Ukrainian politician of the deputy’s official, very weak mental abilities or dullness is the reason that he jumped. But this is not the main thing, but the main thing is that the reduction in production hits everything except fools.
  25. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 6 June 2016 13: 42
    +2
    And then tanks and planes with a steam engine will appear, which can be heated with firewood, instead of a firearm, steam-pneumatic will be introduced. In general, Ukraine knows a lot about steampunk. Only after they switch to firewood, the prices of these same firewood will jump (like svidomye on the Maidan) to 100 Baku for a bunch. Ordinary Ukrainians-a pity. We wish them to survive the consequences of the rule of Svidomo and soon return to us.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 June 2016 14: 13
      0
      They will plant everything with a sunflower and will do biofuel.
  26. V.ic
    V.ic 6 June 2016 13: 44
    +1
    Totally poor woman drove! bully The people are you .... stop it! am God forbid, inspired by this example, our bureaucrats will be aroused ... Then, tryndets will come to us, despite the abundance of oil, gas, diamonds, gold, platinum, wood ... Oh, it became really scary! crying
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 6 June 2016 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: V.ic
      Then then tryndets will come to us, despite the abundance of oil, gas, diamonds, gold, platinum, wood ... Oh, it became really scary!

      That's because of people like you, they laugh at us over the censor, the gold does not burn!
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 6 June 2016 19: 51
        0
        Quote: AID.S
        That's because of people like you, they laugh at us over the censor, the gold does not burn!

        I'm talking about the wealth of the Motherland, mediocrely plundered by bureaucrats, but you, without hesitation, tore off a piece of text and try to measure your intellect with the regulars of the "Censor". Someone is talking about something, but a mangy one ... By the way, MABulgakov wrote the phrase that "manuscripts do not burn", said by Woland. Say the traditional "rzhunimagu" for d ... fishing and try to sound it with an action, mb. You will feel better! Good luck! hi
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 7 June 2016 00: 10
          0
          I also forgot to add about platinum !!!
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 7 June 2016 06: 49
            0
            Quote: AID.S
            I also forgot to add about platinum !!!

            Whatever the child would amuse, but the elephant is still thicker!
            1. AID.S
              AID.S 7 June 2016 11: 52
              0
              "Note, I did not suggest it!"
  27. LOCKS
    LOCKS 6 June 2016 13: 44
    +1
    Ukrainian official seriously proposes to transfer the country's CHP from gas and coal to firewood


    Why is there. Let's go straight to the manure. So what what, but this "good" in Ukraine is now enough ...
  28. iliya87
    iliya87 6 June 2016 13: 45
    +1
    The logic of the leaders of this country has long said "Good luck!" and slammed the door loudly
  29. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 6 June 2016 13: 47
    +8
    If Mrs. Yushkevich is seriously going to heat the boilers of the heat and power plant with wood, then the next generations of Ukrainians will be able to learn what forest is, perhaps, only from TV shows about wildlife ...
  30. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 6 June 2016 13: 48
    0
    Here is a fool. The boiler at the thermal power plant is manufactured under a certain brand of coal, a certain ash content. and loading logs of wood there is simply impossible physically. It looks like a fake.
  31. AndreyS
    AndreyS 6 June 2016 13: 50
    +2
    Blessed in Russia have always been spared and respected! I look at today's Ukraine and I understand that the campaign was overdone, with pity .....
  32. Berkut24
    Berkut24 6 June 2016 13: 52
    +1
    Yes, they have current officials on their own tree-to-tree ...
  33. atamankko
    atamankko 6 June 2016 13: 58
    +2
    Shitting in Parliament and things went uphill, in 2-3 years they’ll heal like in France,
    instead of dumplings, for lack of these, they will switch to frogs.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 June 2016 14: 20
      +4
      Quote: atamankko
      Shitting in Parliament and things went uphill, in 2-3 years they’ll heal like in France,

      France they have already passed the stage)))
  34. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 6 June 2016 14: 02
    +4
    Without a forest, the desert will soon be. In the south of the Kharkov region, groundwater already disappears and the crop burns out.
  35. Alisher
    Alisher 6 June 2016 14: 14
    +3
    This is just an idea that has not been finalized to its logical conclusion. In American films, barrels in which the homeless are basking? To each porch there is an empty barrel, and firewood to be delivered to them for cash (they may not pay for a communal apartment, but here the money is in advance). Boilers, pipes, and pumps will not be needed. With your pot to the barrel - bask, and then the pot into the apartment.
  36. Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 June 2016 14: 19
    +1
    What can you do if "there are sawdust in my head. Yes, yes, yes" (c) laughing But Bandera will not like this idea. Where are they then ready to equip their shores when they cut down forests. what
  37. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 6 June 2016 14: 22
    +2
    As for firewood, hell knows. But, here the companion from the Nikolaev area reported that the gas delivered to the population, began to body with air. And they, at the request of their former mayor, were forced to switch to individual gas boilers in their apartments fifteen years ago. Already then there were problems.
    The next step is to put stove stoves. Why bother with CHP wassat
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 6 June 2016 16: 27
      +2
      It’s convenient for me in my house with a boiler, when I want, then I turn it on. In general, I dream about solar panels. In our mountains, houses for tourists are equipped with solar panels.
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 6 June 2016 20: 01
        0
        It’s convenient for me in my house with a boiler, when I want, then I turn it on

        In my house, yes, I agree, it is very convenient. But, when the supply lines to the apartment building have remained from the times of the USSR, and the gas consumption has increased dramatically, then imagine what "amenities" this provides to the residents. Plus, air-loosened gas. Cold water is cut off there at 22:00 and turned on at 06:00, and even before all these events.
        Now in our city there are new houses with apartment gas boilers and a common boiler. But there the gas supply was calculated in advance for consumption. And the price of gas for the population, respectively, is different than in Ukraine.
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    3. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 6 June 2016 22: 16
      0
      the gas supplied to the population began to bodyify with air.
      And what makes gas mixed with air? (Hint, why is gas needed at all)?
  38. Averias
    Averias 6 June 2016 14: 31
    +2
    All the same, nothing will work, but at least crack. Because firewood will be stolen and sold. I will not be surprised that negotiations are already under way on the sale of thoroughbred wood under the guise of illiquid assets.
  39. Turkir
    Turkir 6 June 2016 14: 38
    +2
    Historical pattern - Ukrainian nationalists should return to the lifestyle with which they began to exist.
    Go to the time of Mazepa!
  40. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 June 2016 14: 40
    +1
    It’s a good idea, but why would a thermal power plant be needed, just the extra hassle, to distribute firewood to people at once, and dismiss all the rest with the ministers to hell, and how much they will save on salaries.
  41. mamont5
    mamont5 6 June 2016 14: 57
    +1
    "These wood resources can be used rationally and efficiently for the region by replacing fuel at CHP."

    So they will reach dungsters. If you have time, of course.
  42. pts-m
    pts-m 6 June 2016 15: 09
    +1
    According to Darwin, the coughs turn from a man into a monkey. The process has begun!
  43. Signaller
    Signaller 6 June 2016 15: 09
    +1
    To answer this question, it is necessary to study the problem of powering the boilers. Type of coal, peat, gas, wood. ... The stations have special sections or coal preparation workshops. I unload coal T. are stored and fed to the boiler. Where it is transported, crushed, turning into powder and then fed into the boiler in special coal nozzles mixed with air .. The coal burns and steam is obtained, with a temperature of 520 degrees and a pressure of 120 atmospheres. Then it goes to the turbine blades, which rotate the generator with a frequency of 3000 rpm or 50 Hz on three-phase electricity. Generates electricity. There are a bunch of adjustments, a bunch of all modes set in advance before the moment comes. And if the generator fails ????? Then there are also systems for unloading and stopping combustion. Likewise, oil or gas enters the boiler through the nozzles. The boiler is a colossus about 20 meters high. up to 10 wide. This is at large power plants. And I think the pretzel that offered this opus more than the "Bulryan" boiler in the country did not see it from birth.
  44. K-50
    K-50 6 June 2016 15: 29
    +3
    The first deputy head of the aforementioned department Kristina Yushkevich, took the initiative to transfer the Ukrainian thermal power plants to ... firewood. According to Ms. Yushkevich, in Ukraine there is enough “illiquid” wood to “fully support the operation of thermal power plants”.

    Interestingly, but this chicken itself planted at least one tree, grew it? fool
  45. Vladimir
    Vladimir 6 June 2016 15: 47
    +1
    Quote: K-50
    Interestingly, but this chicken itself planted at least one tree, grew it?


    And how she could plant it and even more so grow this child of asphalt, but she knows how to destroy and sell it, damn it and where they come from (I'm not talking about firewood).
  46. Sergey956
    Sergey956 6 June 2016 15: 47
    0
    Lord! Firewood, coal and the rest are no longer in fashion. Now a fashionable topic is dung. 30 million Ukrainians daily produce a huge amount of dung. Why not let it go into the furnaces of a thermal power plant? Free, environmentally friendly and economical.
  47. koksalek
    koksalek 6 June 2016 16: 00
    +1
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Well, I probably read somewhere about pellets .. But this is for low-power boilers with appropriate automation .. and the head of those who peck at it. In general, for cottages somewhere in the Perm Territory, this is a good thing — burn sawmills. The woman decided the Chernobyl forest lime and receive Chernobyl benefits for the liquidators (well, for it on a particularly large scale) .... In general, the more such leaders there are, the better for the Ukrainians, the sooner the nationalistic veil will fly off ..

    Uh, we prefer to use gas in our PC, it’s like that, stop the bathhouse in the country
  48. brasist
    brasist 6 June 2016 16: 21
    +1
    You read, but you can’t believe it yourself, if they (y) reach such senility, another Sahara from a once flourishing country may appear ...
    1. Bramb
      Bramb 6 June 2016 16: 42
      +2
      Do not reach. Although, if they were paid for it - it’s easy! This is Ukrainians!
      Khokhlov no matter what to sell: even firewood, even homeland.
      All the same, everything will be dumped on Muscovites.
  49. trantor
    trantor 6 June 2016 16: 28
    0
    Monday kids ... they could live.
  50. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 6 June 2016 16: 46
    +2
    A little more and they will begin to heat the boilers with dung and everything that burns!