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In one frame were Russian TZM-K and American Abrams

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The Iraqi blogger posted a unique photo on the network, which depicts the Russian wheeled vehicle-loading vehicle for TOC-1A, which had not previously been captured in camera lenses, and the American tank M1А1, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


In one frame were Russian TZM-K and American Abrams


The sending of TZM-K to Iraq became known in March 2015. Prior to this, caterpillar transport-loading vehicles (TZM-T) were delivered there based on tank T-90.


“But operation in the desert has shown that it is possible to get along with a lighter and, therefore, more mobile machine built on the chassis of the multi-axle Russian KamAZ-63501 of the Mustang family. The TZM-K, moreover, is cheaper than the tracked variant, it has a much larger resource and a “budget” in operation, ”writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.



The author notes that previously wheel TZM, only on the basis of KrAZ-255B, were used to service TOC-1 “Buratino”. “It is in this configuration that this complex was tested at the final stage of finding a limited contingent of Soviet troops in Afghanistan. Indeed, everything new is well forgotten old. After 37, the TZM got on their wheels again, ”concludes Romanov.
Photos used:
twitter.com/Fayli_Iraqi, gurkhan.blogspot.ru, Almada Press
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 6 June 2016 11: 29
    +16
    operation in the desert has shown that it is possible to get by with a lighter and, accordingly, more mobile machine, created on the chassis of the multi-axle Russian KamAZ-63501 of the Mustang family

    Practice is the criterion of truth smile
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 6 June 2016 11: 42
      +3
      Quote: Thrall
      Practice is the criterion of truth smile

      Gold words)
      1. HERMES
        HERMES 6 June 2016 12: 11
        +6
        This photo would become much more unique and interesting if the T-90 were in place of KAMAZ ...
        1. drunkram
          drunkram 6 June 2016 12: 47
          +1
          depending on which T-90, T-90CA, although the abrams are at the level of T-72
  2. CORNET
    CORNET 6 June 2016 11: 31
    +1
    Two enemies near .... hi? While working together ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 6 June 2016 11: 36
      +10
      Quote: CORNET
      Two enemies near .... hi? While working together ...

      Weapons of the enemy can also serve a good cause smile
      1. Oorfene Deuce
        Oorfene Deuce 6 June 2016 11: 45
        +12
        There are different situations ...
      2. CORNET
        CORNET 6 June 2016 12: 09
        +4
        Quote: Thrall
        Weapons of the enemy can also serve a good cause

        Maybe I agree ... hi It’s just a tense atmosphere ... and such a reaction to all this!
        Ours still less often used the enemy’s weapons .. (in extreme cases, they could dunk their own ...)

        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 6 June 2016 12: 38
          +8
          Trophy "Panthers".
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        2. iConst
          iConst 6 June 2016 12: 53
          +5
          Quote: CORNET
          Ours still less often used the enemy’s weapons .. (in extreme cases, they could dunk their own ...)

          Used as far as expediency allowed.

          When the gradual liberation of the territories around 43 years began and the battlefield remained with our troops, the easy-to-recover equipment was in the rear.
          So it would be foolish not to use it.

          However, such parts quickly ceased to exist, since there were essentially no spare parts and any serious damage could not be fixed.

          With regards to "their own could be dunked" - so it was all too often and for this it was not at all necessary to be on the enemy's technique.

          At a distance, in not very good weather conditions, and even if on the other side the enemy is waiting in tension, it makes no difference. As soon as there was a rustle - his hell!

          All the armies of the world have always had "friendly" fire. And the Americans are no exception - and now, even with their "situational awareness" they extinguish this only in this way. True, more and more NATO allies are falling - sometimes they walk around the Britons, then someone else ... laughing
        3. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 6 June 2016 14: 19
          +2
          Ours still less often used the enemy’s weapons .. (in extreme cases, they could dunk their own ...)
          Trophy, there is a trophy if we are to be objective. Both sides used them to the full. Who (who managed) managed to pull out the equipment from the battlefield and repair it, he used it. Since the end of 1941, a department for the evacuation and collection of trophies was created in the Armored Directorate of the Red Army. Later, an order was signed "On accelerating the evacuation of captured and domestic armored materiel from the battlefield." There were a lot of such trophies in our troops. Just in our Soviet cinema, it was not shown often, and by the way correctly, from an ideological point of view. The Germans did the same, our technology was not enough. In the first months of the war, it happened Pz and StuG with red stars on the armor, fought against the T-34 and KV with painted crosses on them.
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  3. PROSTEEL
    PROSTEEL 6 June 2016 11: 35
    0
    This is what we should strive for! Unite with "partners" against terrorists!
    Otherwise, all kirdyk ...
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 6 June 2016 11: 40
      +5
      Quote: PROSTEEL
      This is what we should strive for! Unite with "partners" against terrorists!
      Otherwise, all kirdyk ...

      Well, yes to unite ... That's just a question torments: - "And who breeds terrorists all over the world?" Political partners are like the syphilitic partner in bed.
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    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 6 June 2016 11: 48
      0
      Bring this idea to the "highest" State Department. There is a slightly different vision of problem solving. And the problems themselves are different.
  4. svp67
    svp67 6 June 2016 11: 51
    +2
    An Iraqi blogger uploaded a unique photo to the network that depicts a Russian wheeled transport-loading vehicle for TOS-1A, which had not previously hit camera lenses, and the American M1A1 tank
    Actually, TOSs were developed for interaction with mechanized, in particular, tank units, so the photo may be unique, but quite understandable - "everything that is the best, everything to fight the main enemy"
  5. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 6 June 2016 11: 58
    0
    At first I thought that the TZM is a tank-rolling machine. laughing
  6. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 6 June 2016 11: 58
    +3
    In my opinion, KAMAZ has a muzzled face.
  7. The black
    The black 6 June 2016 12: 01
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Actually, TOSs were developed for interaction with mechanized, in particular, tank units, so the photo may be unique, but quite understandable - "everything that is the best, everything to fight the main enemy"
    I agree. Although about the uniqueness of the photo I would argue. In many countries of the world, the Armed Forces have both Russian and American weapons at the same time. So there is nothing unusual in the photo.
  8. xolod_22
    xolod_22 6 June 2016 12: 04
    0
    When such an infection as igil spreads, then everyone has to unite, as it was in the fight against fascism (to strengthen which, by the way, the partners also put their hands on in their time). USA or their interests ...
  9. Havoc
    Havoc 6 June 2016 12: 44
    0
    I have a question as a layman who hones, if it is clear with helicopters, the United States paid for it, and then only the transport workers, then who will pay for the rest of the supply of arms to Iraq, billions have already been written off once, in another, not a poor country. Will it work again, because the United States is sitting there firmly and is unlikely to be allowed to go there.
  10. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 6 June 2016 12: 45
    0
    Who do you think won, TZM-K or Abram?
  11. volodya
    volodya 6 June 2016 12: 55
    0
    Well, partners means! So that these partners were empty!
  12. AlexSam
    AlexSam 6 June 2016 13: 26
    -3
    in some nagging Iraq, where the war already God knows how much, where poverty and devastation, such roads! or is it due to the lack of sanctions?
    1. Parsec
      Parsec 6 June 2016 13: 37
      +6
      This is due to the very dry climate and the absence of a thousandfold transition of temperature through zero for one year on the road surface.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 June 2016 15: 53
        +1
        In Alaska and northern Finland, the roads are excellent. wink
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        2. bubalik
          bubalik 6 June 2016 15: 55
          +1

          voyaka uh IL  Today, 15: 53 ↑ New
          In Alaska and northern Finland, the roads are excellent.
          ... well, why so ,,,
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    2. Parsec
      Parsec 6 June 2016 13: 52
      +1
      There, the soil at 1.40 m in depth does not freeze every year.
  13. dummy
    dummy 7 June 2016 11: 07
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    In Alaska and northern Finland, the roads are excellent. wink

    In Alaska and Finland, -30 almost no snow without snow. And so that in the morning it would be 0, and in the evening -25 - this is generally a rarity. In Siberia, there is no heat accumulator in the form of seas and oceans, temperature fluctuations that take place in Alaska for a month run in a few hours.
    In Kuzbass, the routes on the vaunted German technology of the year did not stand. And under Munich they still remember Hitler.