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Media: Vietnam may buy a batch of T-90MS in Russia

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The Vietnamese military department is considering the possibility of procurement in Russia 28 tanks T-90MS, reports Messenger of Mordovia with reference to the resource kienthuc.net.vn.


Media: Vietnam may buy a batch of T-90MS in Russia


The resource notes that “in accordance with current needs, the armored forces of Vietnam need at least 200 new tanks, since at present the basis of the country's tank fleet is obsolete T-54 / 55 and T-62”. At the same time, neighboring states are trying to upgrade their military equipment.

According to the portal, the Vietnamese command had previously planned to modernize outdated machines, but then it came to be understood that no improvements could turn the T-54 / 55 into a technique that "fully meets the requirements of modern war."



The resource also recalls that at the beginning of 2000's, the Vietnamese government “planned to purchase 150 T-72М1 tanks in Eastern Europe,” but failed to realize these intentions.

Help "Messenger of Mordovia": "Compared to the old T-90С, T-90MS is equipped with a more powerful engine up to 1130 hp, a more advanced fire control system, a panoramic sight with a remote-controlled 7,62 mm caliber, dynamic protection of the new generation and etc.".

Photos used:
Roman Katkov, Denis Peredrienko
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 6 June 2016 10: 54
    +30
    Vietnam is only considering ... And the media, as usual, write as a fait accompli. If you look at things realistically, then even from this article you can see that the Vietnamese have a desire, but no opportunity. What can the attempts to modernize the T-54/55 into "more modern" ones or the purchase in Europe of second-hand T-72M1 from the former member countries of the "Warsaw Treaty" tell? Only that there is no money for new equipment for the Armed Forces request
    And the tanks are really good, they showed themselves from the best sidegood
    If you buy it, you really will not regret it good
    1. Kostyar
      Kostyar 6 June 2016 10: 56
      +1
      Well, our fellows, beautiful !!!
      200 units, this, damn it, is impressive !!!
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 6 June 2016 11: 27
        +8
        In passing, they need to take the T-72B3M from us and not worry.
        And not too expensive (~ 60-70M $) and quite angry.
    2. Sluggish
      Sluggish 6 June 2016 10: 59
      +1
      Where exactly did the T-90MS perform well?
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 6 June 2016 11: 07
        +13
        Where exactly did the T-90MS perform well?

        On Ren-TV, at Prokopenko's "Military Secret" laughing
        1. 76SSSR
          76SSSR 6 June 2016 12: 06
          -2
          Petrosyan from infantry.) Take cover with a hood, a troll.
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 6 June 2016 12: 15
            +6
            Petrosyan from infantry.) Take cover with a hood, a troll.

            Kindly tell us where and when, at least once, participated in the battles of T-90MS (this particular modification) hi

            In the meantime, I'll google what is "infateria" laughing
            1. 76SSSR
              76SSSR 6 June 2016 12: 22
              -4
              "participated in battles" ... "this particular modification" ... Hmm, and you are difficult. With your approach and s-400 g exactly.)
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 6 June 2016 12: 31
                +4
                With your approach and s-400, basically.)

                I didn’t say such nonsense. If you notice, then I didn’t hail this tank anywhere. laughing

                It’s just that the same S-400 has long been in the army, and the vast majority of military experts speak of it very well; and where is the T-90MS? Only at exhibitions and on television.

                In general, it is very unlikely that anyone will get it. Avaricious will take the tanks cheaper, or modify the already able; and those who are richer will wait for the export T-14
                1. 76SSSR
                  76SSSR 6 June 2016 12: 44
                  0
                  S-125 ... hi Naithoku). Is the S-400 good, do you think? Have you caught a causal connection and my thought? Yes? Pleasantly surprised. The T-90 has proven itself excellently in combat conditions, so maybe you and I have enough reason to understand that the modernized am / cm modification is at least no worse.
                  1. Wiruz
                    Wiruz 6 June 2016 12: 53
                    +1
                    I caught another winked
                    Your pride there does not rest against the ceiling? Here, please find in my comments a phrase or a word where I would speak badly about the combat capabilities of the T-90MS. The fact that the modification is no worse than the original version is, of course, here you have not discovered anything new.

                    The user "Sluggish" just asked a very pertinent question:
                    Where exactly did the T-90MS perform well?


                    To which I received a quite adequate answer:
                    On Ren-TV, at Prokopenko's "Military Secret"


                    And the relationship between F-117 and S-125 has nothing to do with it. yes
                    1. 76SSSR
                      76SSSR 6 June 2016 12: 57
                      +1
                      Your post had blatant sarcasm, and I responded to it like S-125.)
                2. 76SSSR
                  76SSSR 6 June 2016 12: 49
                  -3
                  Liberasty, you get the hell out of Russia.
            2. tomket
              tomket 6 June 2016 17: 41
              -1
              Quote: Wiruz
              Kindly tell us where and when, at least once, participated in the battles of T-90MS (this particular modification)

              In the meantime, I'll google what is "infateria"

              And in what battles did "Armata" take part, what would it be to promote it like that?))) Your logic should immediately return the T-34-76 to the conveyor. arr 42 years.
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 6 June 2016 11: 08
        +9
        Quote: Sluggish
        Where exactly did the T-90MS perform well?

        And where exactly did he show himself poorly?
        1. jjj
          jjj 6 June 2016 11: 14
          +9
          Meanwhile, the Severodvinsk agency "Belomorkanal" reports:

          Sevmash workshops are being modernized for the construction of fourth and fifth generation nuclear submarines
          989 million 670 thousand rubles will be spent on the modernization of several workshops of Severodvinsk Sevmash to ensure the construction of the fourth and fifth generation nuclear submarines.
          The money will be spent on the implementation of a complex of construction and installation works on the object "Technical re-equipment of slipways and mechanical assembly production to ensure the construction of the fourth and fifth generations of nuclear submarines. Technical re-equipment of mechanical assembly production, power supply facilities and transport system in shops 50 and 55 - stage 2." For this money, it is also necessary to carry out a complex of works on the reconstruction of the roof, wall fencing, reinforcement of metal structures and fire protection of the load-bearing metal structures of the roof of workshop No. 50 (boathouse No. 1) of JSC PO Sevmash.
          An auction has already been announced to determine the contractor. Applications will end on June 23, the results will be summed up on July 13 and 2016 in Severodvinsk. Work must be completed in two years
          1. CORNET
            CORNET 6 June 2016 11: 18
            +4
            Better buy, you will not regret ... And also help us restore the naval base of the Navy ... And you will be safe from EVERYONE! We remember the Russian good ... and betrayal too! hi Nobody will touch you ...
            1. Dulat
              Dulat 6 June 2016 19: 42
              0
              Exactly, if Russia had been in Libya and Iraq, the Americans would not have poked their head.
        2. svp67
          svp67 6 June 2016 11: 20
          +6
          Quote: Andrey K
          And where exactly did he show himself poorly?

          Yes, no where, since it still exists in single copies ...
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 6 June 2016 12: 14
            +9
            Quote: svp67

            Yes, no where, since it still exists in single copies ...

            So the T-90, once, was in several copies. And then the Indians arrived in time, with their money. First, we received 124 T-90S tanks of our assembly, then they knocked out their license. As of now: in service with 7 countries. Now, a more "advanced" model of the tank is in service with us good
            If there is demand, they will put this model on the conveyor good
        3. Dembel77
          Dembel77 6 June 2016 11: 29
          +3
          Vietnam may buy a batch of T-90MS in the Russian Federation
          If this happens, then Vietnam will be among the largest world users of tanks of the T-90 family. Which in itself is unlikely. Here are the data from the wiki:
          Azerbaijan - 100 units of T-90S, as of 2016. There is also an option for another 94 T-90S tanks. At the request of the Azerbaijani side, the systems of optoelectronic suppression "Shtora-1" were installed on the tanks.
          Algeria - 300 T-90S units, as of 2016.
          Armenia - 1 unit of T-90S, as of 2016. Won at the 2014 World Tank Biathlon Championships
          India - more than 900 units of the T-90S, as of 2016.
          Russia - 350 T-90 / T-90A in units (and another 200 units are in storage), as of 2016.
          Turkmenistan - 4 units of the T-90S, as of 2016.
          Uganda - 44 T-90S units, as of 2016.
          The price of the T-90MS tank is also quite large (it can reach about 3.2 - 4.0 million green)
        4. Wiruz
          Wiruz 6 June 2016 11: 50
          -3
          And where exactly did he show himself poorly?

          You are asking the wrong question, you have to ask: "Where did they show themselves at all?" Answer: "nowhere, only at exhibitions, and on Ren-TV" hi
      3. svp67
        svp67 6 June 2016 11: 20
        +3
        Quote: Sluggish
        de just the T-90MS showed itself well?

        In Nizhny Tagil at the exhibition. Very impressive performance ...
      4. 76SSSR
        76SSSR 6 June 2016 11: 56
        +9
        Do not get hung up on the letters "MC" and do not pretend to be a fool, the T-90 has proven itself well in combat conditions, and with different climates - in the sands, for example, it has no equal at all ... the machine is reliable, lethal.
    3. Kars
      Kars 6 June 2016 11: 25
      +3
      The Chinese will stamp faster)))



      and so anyway the issue of small series and economic benefits
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 6 June 2016 15: 57
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        The Chinese will stamp faster)))

        Vietnam is unlikely to buy weapons from China seriously - they have had political graters for a long time ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 6 June 2016 23: 56
          +3
          Quote: Albert1988
          China

          I'm actually talking about models) two Chinese companies have already announced MS in the near future) + Tagil.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 7 June 2016 20: 47
            +1
            Quote: Kars
            I'm actually talking about models) two Chinese companies have already announced MS in the near future) + Tagil.

            Oh, and I already thought ..)))) But in any case, let’s see how it goes - the Chinese have already riveted the armature, so they write that the proportions are very past (especially at the tower). it’s clear that the well-known T-90 isn’t armata for everyone, but as they say, we’ll see ...
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 6 June 2016 22: 51
        +1
        Damn, I generally thought that in the photo in the article
        Abrams
    4. vodolaz
      vodolaz 6 June 2016 11: 40
      +2
      If they buy, it will be very wonderful.
    5. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 6 June 2016 11: 52
      +4
      If you believe the latest media reports, then Vietnam offers us to restore our base in Kamrani. Maybe the Vietnamese are thus subtly hinting at barter?
      1. ayuric
        ayuric 6 June 2016 12: 19
        +4
        so they themselves use it well and upgrade it, a new infrastructure is built there, and I haven’t seen such roads in Russia, in general, not a base, but a sweetie. I don’t think that they will give us the investment, maybe a small part is quite possible.
    6. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 6 June 2016 12: 01
      +3
      Quote: Andrey K
      on new equipment for the aircraft, trivially lacking funds

      Vietnam over the past ten years has begun to develop quite well, the launch of oil and gas projects and the availability of a convenient geographical location, no worse than Singapore, have helped. In addition, Vietnam is no longer considered an outcast on the pro-American vector, and new investors are appearing in this connection. The fall in oil prices did not hurt the country in view of the failure to integrate into the economy of the oil and gas industry.
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 June 2016 13: 03
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      If you still buy, then really will not regret good

      They will have to do this, they have graters with China. And China already has quite good tanks of its own. request
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 June 2016 13: 04
      0
      In the picture, in a desert camouflage looks pretty good
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  3. cniza
    cniza 6 June 2016 10: 56
    +5
    The resource also recalls that at the beginning of 2000's, the Vietnamese government “planned to purchase 150 T-72М1 tanks in Eastern Europe,” but failed to realize these intentions.


    Now there is an opportunity to implement their plans, Eastern Europe, it looks like Ukraine.
  4. yehat
    yehat 6 June 2016 11: 01
    +5
    And besides the ability to buy tanks, Vietnam can fly to the moon or attack Japan.
    news where ???
  5. Thinker
    Thinker 6 June 2016 11: 10
    +1
    Cool if you consider that this tank we drive to exhibitions almost in a single copy !!! - or will we remove our latest more or less modern cars from storage and remodel them for Vietnam? -We don't have t-90s produced? How many of them are there? About 500 cars in the country?
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 6 June 2016 11: 23
      0
      Quote: Denker
      if you consider that this tank we almost travels to the exhibitions in a single copy !!!
      - You write specifically, "severely." But what can you prove?
      1. Thinker
        Thinker 6 June 2016 12: 33
        0
        Duck, to prove that they are not produced at all T-90 MS. No, as far as I know, they made the next modernization of the 90s but nobody put it into service and our model didn’t buy it, so what kind of shish to build it and why in the absence of customers? so that someone buys this version ...
      2. Thinker
        Thinker 6 June 2016 12: 33
        0
        Duck, to prove that they are not produced at all T-90 MS. No, as far as I know, they made the next modernization of the 90s but nobody put it into service and our model didn’t buy it, so what kind of shish to build it and why in the absence of customers? so that someone buys this version ...
      3. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 6 June 2016 20: 57
        0
        if you consider that this tank we almost travels to the exhibitions in a single copy !!!


        - You write specifically, "severely." But what can you prove?

        Comrade probably means a specific tank, which is in the picture)))
    2. svp67
      svp67 6 June 2016 11: 23
      +5
      Quote: Denker
      We do not have t-90s? How many of them are there? About 500 aircraft in the country?

      I can upset - RELEASE.
      1. Thinker
        Thinker 6 June 2016 14: 47
        0
        I don’t see what it was, even under Serdyukov’s, they refused such machines instead of upgrading the T-72. Or have they already begun to produce it? -only to whom? The MO contract has signed for the delivery of the T-90? -I have not heard, but this disassembled miracle is this proof that are they being released? By the way, if they are being released, then I will be only too happy! -hether they would have been released for our tankers first!
      2. Thinker
        Thinker 6 June 2016 14: 47
        0
        I don’t see what it was, even under Serdyukov’s, they refused such machines instead of upgrading the T-72. Or have they already begun to produce it? -only to whom? The MO contract has signed for the delivery of the T-90? -I have not heard, but this disassembled miracle is this proof that are they being released? By the way, if they are being released, then I will be only too happy! -hether they would have been released for our tankers first!
  6. Leto
    Leto 6 June 2016 11: 12
    +9
    Well, then the Vietnamese have no particular choice. The available personnel have worked with Soviet tanks all their lives, it is easier to retrain. A debt that can then be written off no one but Russia will sell. Conclusion: The probability of the transaction is high.
    1. Thinker
      Thinker 6 June 2016 14: 48
      0
      The joke with the cancellation of debt I approve, in the eye right ...
    2. Thinker
      Thinker 6 June 2016 14: 48
      0
      The joke with the cancellation of debt I approve, in the eye right ...
  7. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 6 June 2016 11: 12
    +2
    There is a powerful American lobby in Vietnam, so they will not buy from the Chinese in principle, but from the Americans, French or Germans it is expensive and problematic from the point of view of logistics. They could have bought it from Kiev, but they cannot cope with such a volume, they can buy a Polish "replica" T-72, PT-91, the Poles recently successfully sold them to Malaysia, but I'm 100% sure that they won't buy our tanks.
  8. Themi30
    Themi30 6 June 2016 11: 21
    0
    Quote: Bone
    Well, our fellows, beautiful !!!
    200 units, this, damn it, is impressive !!!

    28 if that, and not a fact, but maybe on credit or for ... rice for example! So it’s not impressive at all.
  9. Cananecat
    Cananecat 6 June 2016 11: 24
    0
    Let's answer the question, whose tanks are less expensive for operation in the climatic conditions of Vietnam, and we will get an answer who can be the likely supplier. For me, this is China and Russia.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 6 June 2016 11: 37
      -1
      Quote: Canecat
      Let's answer the question, whose tanks are less expensive for operation in the climatic conditions of Vietnam, and we will get an answer who can be the likely supplier.

      Cap, Vietnamese, and so only use our and Chinese tanks, why garden something?
    2. svp67
      svp67 6 June 2016 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Canecat
      Let's answer the question, whose tanks are less expensive for operation in the climatic conditions of Vietnam, and we will get an answer who can be the likely supplier. For me, this is China and Russia.
      Operating costs are not the most important issue, in this case it’s easier to leave the T-55 in service, it’s cheaper now and you can’t imagine ...
  10. Jamuqa
    Jamuqa 6 June 2016 13: 00
    +2
    Well, if you talk like that, then Armata hasn’t shown herself anywhere, but we consider him the best in the world. And I think we will agree with Vietnam on payment. I remember all my childhood in Vietnamese sneakers passed and T-shirts
  11. Skubudu
    Skubudu 6 June 2016 13: 13
    +1
    Of all that is offered on the market, the T-90SM is one of the most modern tanks, with a lower price compared to competitors.