Airships will appear on the Turkish border

Turkish Defense Ministry plans to use small airships at the border as video surveillance systems, the agency reports Anadolu.

According to a military source, "tests of these unmanned systems have already begun on a number of border posts."

“The Turkish defense industry is developing airships of two models - drop-shaped and spherical. The first one, 16 meters in length and 1800 cubic meters in volume, can rise to 1000 meters in height, the second, 55 cubic meters in volume, can work at heights up to 500 meters, ”the source explained to the agency.

He noted that "these systems are planned to be used to monitor the terrain, provide early warning of potential threats and to ensure the safety of border posts."

The systems have all-round visibility and are equipped with night vision cameras. Pictures are transmitted in real time to control points.

“The system will be able to withstand shelling and operate under conditions of strong wind loads. Airships, which are currently under development, have already passed the first 400 hours of testing at the border, ”adds the publication.

Comments

[svp67]

He noted that "these systems are planned to be used to monitor the terrain, provide early warning of potential threats and to ensure the safety of border posts."

It is a reasonable decision, especially since our troops have long been using airships to protect their deployment sites in Syria.

[jjj]

Switch to import substitution of weapons systems

[cniza]

Everything new is well forgotten and improved old.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: cniza

Everything new is well forgotten and improved old.

The Turks already have an airship. More precisely, an inflated condom, imagining itself to be an airship. The name is Erdogan.

[abrakadabre]

System will be able to withstand shelling and function in conditions of strong wind loads.

With a flight altitude of 500 and 1000 meters? Will the system have ballistic armor and dynamic protection against RPG of a gas cylinder? And anchors from an aircraft carrier.

[Andrey K]

Quote: svp67

It is a reasonable decision, especially since our troops have long been using an airship to protect their locations in Syria.

Of course it’s reasonable ... And you don’t have to spend money on UAVs, hung the ball on its territory and go ahead ... adjust the fire of your artillery against the Kurdish troops in Syria
Cheap and cheerful.

[Ased]

In my opinion, for such a purpose only a lazy person will not burn. Well, imagine for yourself what a temptation it is. :) Bo do not FIG her fly and spy!

[Tines]

Only if you decide to approach the distance of effective shooting.

[CORNET]

As I understand it, cunning Ottomans, these bubbles will fly into Syria! And we will be checked whether we will own them or not .... (and if so, then pinpoint our points ..) Tricks! Do you understand the Kurds, I hope the plan?

[Wiruz]

Everything ingenious is simple. Before the Turks, the use of airships for observational purposes was already discussed both in the USA and in Russia.

[sergey2017]

Only the purpose and height is different, it starts from 3000 meters and above! The Turks have more observational, and the states and we have transceivers for electronic warfare systems and missile defense!

[Irokez]

So you look and will soon fly into space. Or ISIS will deliver weapons by air. Ah yes the Ottomans, ah yes the sages. Not on the ground, so on the air to feed terror and obtain information for them. I suppose that ISIS will soon have airships, all the more so as there was once a video where balloons with explosives were launched against VKS aircraft in the hope that the plane would run into them.

[sergey2017]

Good targets: one with a length of 16 meters and a volume of 1800 cubic meters at a height of 1000 meters and the second with a volume of 55 cubic meters at a height of 500 meters!

[Yon_Silent]

And what to shoot down, if not secret, are you planning? ))) The airships of bullets and shells are not afraid: the projectile fuse does not react to contact with the shell, the gas does not explode and does not burn, the holes are not terrible. The target, perhaps, is really good, but this is the very elbow that is very close.

[abrakadabre]

And what to shoot down, if not secret, are you planning?

How is this what?

Airships are not afraid of bullets and shells:

Both on ... But in WWI they didn’t know ...

projectile fuse does not respond to contact with the shell

So what? Without an explosion does a shell bounce chtol?

holes are not scary.

Daz is fantastic !!! And why then all the air forces of the planet have not switched to airships for a long time? Will it make up for leaks and mass leaks by pumping from cylinders or by hose from the ground? Or hot air balloons? So, with a certain loss of shell surface area there, an urgent need to turn the heating burner down and turn on the afterburner is used to hold the height in a reactive way.

[Yon_Silent]

Quote: abrakadabre

Both on ... But in WWI they didn’t know ...

Yeah, they didn’t know)
They did not know how to make the carrier gas (hydrogen), which was used to charge the apparatus at that time, not mix with oxygen, if the shell was damaged. Since we remembered the PMV, then remember what design the airships of those temporary metal (wooden) frames with gas bags made of bodied fabric had. Such a bandura strives to fall, and it burns well. Modern frameless blimps with inert helium, non-combustible shell, automatic valves are much more durable

Quote: abrakadabre

So what? Without an explosion does a shell bounce chtol?

Doesn't bounce, of course. Stitches the shell, leaving a pair of smooth holes that are easy to repair.

Quote: abrakadabre

And why then all the air forces of the planet have not switched to airships for a long time?

Because the niche of aeronautical engineering is very narrow - reconnaissance and relaying. Well, if you press it, then it can perform air defense functions (aerostat networks and mines). But not more. In addition, helium is expensive, whatever one may say.

Quote: abrakadabre

Will it make up for leaks and mass leaks by pumping from cylinders or by hose from the ground?

Leaks occur even with a completely intact shell! Hydrogen and helium, due to the size of their molecules, can diffuse even through a steel sheet. For this reason, in any RE of gas balloons, the permissible leakage value (cubic meter / (l / h)) is indicated.

The holes for the balloon are not scary in the sense that it will not fall instantly. Remember the Akron disaster - the airship lost more than a third (!) Of gas, but was able to land on the water surface.

[faiver]

heavy small arms pose a serious danger to the airship in itself, the question is whether the carrier of these weapons can go the distance of effective firing. the airship is big-eyed ...

[ohtandur]

Is this why the airship holes are not scary? The gas is volatile, but will they hang on the hose with gas, which will pump them up? So it will be a platinum priced drone. As for the shells - why not scary, Set to the desired height, and the heights of the Turks voiced the easier. And you think that bullets like a rubber ball kick a finger, but do not pierce?

[cold_22]

Does the system withstand shelling? Tormented by doubts ...

[Averias]

Quote: xolod_22

Does the system withstand shelling? Tormented by doubts ...

Well, you get tired of shooting down an airship from a machine gun or machine gun. "Shilka" of course will izmahrat it, only here: 1. We need "Shilka". 2. The cost of ammunition. 3. No damage, a new one will be launched.

PS Although, an excellent target for American laser prodigies. The target is large, practically immobile. So let the holes "drill"

[Yon_Silent]

Well, the maximum that can be imagined is to get into the propulsion system or into the valve of the balloon pressurization system with a sniper shot. Damage to the control system wiring (if any) or to the rudder and elevator drives themselves is also fraught with piloting problems.

[abrakadabre]

Well, you get tired of knocking down an airship from a machine gun or machine gun.

Even tracer / incendiary? By polymer film?

[ICT]

Quote: xolod_22

Doubts torment me ...

is it an airship or a balloon?

[Bort radist]

Quote: TIT

is it an airship or a balloon?

Straight anecdote - "Statosrat or sratostat?"
"In my opinion - an airship."

[Andrea]

These are not airships anymore; they are already bulletproof ones.
-And Mr. General says that crocodiles fly.
-Flying, only low, low.

[3vs]

They read my mind!
On the Ukrainian border it was necessary to deploy this, cheaply and angrily!

[sogdianec]

Quote: Jon_ Quiet

And what to shoot down, if not secret, are you planning? )))

pistol, machine gun, machine gun, dagger, shotgun and slingshot. But seriously, the airships will be on a leash. That is, such a synthetic rope tied, for example, to the toilet door. And something tells me, not this armored toilet and the rope burns easily.
Still, it is enough for the sniper to make a couple of holes, or you think the airship will be in a "body armor".

[Yon_Silent]

"But seriously, the airships will be tethered."
I'm afraid you can't tell the difference between an airship and a tethered balloon. And it is very significant: the words “airship” and “conductor” are not without reason the same root. "Diriger" in French means "management". The adherent does not need to be controlled, it is enough to climb to the working height) Yes ... and the carrying cable there is not synthetic, but quite steel and non-combustible.

[ICT]

Quote: sogdianec

But seriously, the airships will be on a leash.

it's called a balloon

[Pazuzu]

"Kirov reporting !!!" (from)

[Rostislav]

Well, you get tired of shooting down an airship from a machine gun or machine gun. "Shilka" of course will izmahrat it, only here: 1. We need "Shilka". 2. The cost of ammunition. 3. No damage, a new one will be launched.

I believe that the cost of a new airship will be an order of magnitude, if not more, more expensive than the cost of Shilka’s ammunition.

[Barakuda]

Why "Shilka"? "Cliff" I think is enough.

[Ros 56]

One rocket, and the airship bye-bye. And so let him fly, people are interested, I remember from this in my opinion in France, I just don’t remember, they shot a football match.

[novobranets]

Quote: Ros 56

One rocket, and the airship bye-bye.

If only a rocket signal. The rest is not economical, However. A rocket stands like five airships.

[Signore Tomato]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMGa4993ohc

[Voenoboz]

Quite right, cheap and effective.