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What does Mount Yamantau really hide?

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After visiting 2001 for the first time I visited the highest point of the Southern Urals, Mount Yamantau, I read with interest on the Internet the secrets surrounding this peak. He immediately wrote a report on his stay on the mountain and on semi-abandoned objects at the foot. He wrote, admit, stupidity, having taken the foundation of one of the unfinished buildings near the ventilation shafts for the tanks for “pre-transportation storage of uranium ore”. Fifteen years later, I came across echoes of this nonsense when a random fellow traveler began to tell me about how uranium is mined at Yamantau, referring to my own article.


I sincerely warn you that the following is the opinion of a simple man in the street who has repeatedly visited those areas and gathered all the facts available to the public.



View of Yamantau (Bolshoi and Maly Yamantau) from the southwest section of the South Ural Nature Reserve


A few words about the grief itself - perhaps the most mysterious place in Russia. Yamantau is surrounded by many legends, rumors and fables, but the facts are: in the heart of the Southern Urals, in the middle of a specially created reserve, where the entrance of mere mortals is forbidden and where huntsmen constantly catch hunters, surrounded by mountain ranges, stone rivers, taiga and swamps, Mount Yamantau rises . Low, just a little over 1600 meters. Snow sometimes lingers on the summit in the summer, and at the foot you can see a mining and processing complex with road and rail entry below the ground. This complex and what may be inside the mountain is served by the closed city of Mizhhirya with a population of 16 000 people. In the city from the highway leads the only road with roadblocks.



P316 track at the turn in Mizhhirya. Place where the tourist routes end (if the huntsmen do not catch)


Americans raised the hype around the mountain in 1996, because they were outraged by the conduct of large-scale military construction there. Let me remind you that at that time Russia, like Ukraine now, was eating one IMF loan after another, not having money to pay salaries to doctors and teachers. The explanation for this paradox is simple - to keep mothballed construction sites in a non-emergency condition is very expensive. We must constantly spend money on drainage, ventilation, monitoring workings. For example, to maintain a preserved underground car tunnel in neighboring Ufa, the length of which is just 300 meters, requires two hundred million rubles annually. By the way, the construction of the tunnel was carried out by the same Construction Management No. 30 from Mizhgirya. The country could not afford to abandon a huge project in which the Soviet Union invested hundreds of millions of people's rubles, nor continue to waste them, having no return in terms of strategic security.

Nowadays, national consciousness firmly associates Yamantau with Putin’s Bunker or Doomsday Ark for the Russian government elite. I dare to assure you, as of 2016, he cannot be either.

What does Mount Yamantau really hide?


It is worth noting that there is hardly anything in the mountain itself. The asylum can be under the mountain, the mountain mass itself acts as a shield. Therefore, to make any calculations about the size of the bunker based on the volume of the mountain, as it was done in some media, is meaningless.

Yamantau can not be regarded as Putin’s bunker due to the fact that he does not guarantee security from nuclear weapons. Even one standard point 100-150-kiloton warheads would strike through the mountain a few points at a single point and tear down tunnels under the mountain. In addition, the power of thermonuclear charges is not limited by anything except delivery methods. For example, the Soviet thermonuclear Tsar Bomb, delivered by a modified bomber TU-95В, had a power in 50 megatons. Such a bomb evaporates a stone within a radius of four kilometers and brings down underground communications tens of kilometers around. Let me remind you that the power of that explosion was artificially lowered by half, so that the bomber crew could fly to a safe distance.


Thermonuclear aviation bomb AN-602


Yamantau also can not be Putin's bunker because of its remoteness. In the event of a nuclear war, the main blow will be delivered suddenly, in 10-20 minutes. You can escape from the capital only through an underground network of tunnels or a helicopter protected from the effects of a nuclear explosion. The maximum range of the modified Mi-8, on which Putin flies, is no more than 600 kilometers, while Yamantau is twice as far. Relying on the option with transfers and refueling is not possible, since the first blow is likely to destroy the main flight infrastructure of the country. There are no operating airfields in Mizhhirya itself or in neighboring Beloretsk to receive even a small plane, not to mention presidential Il-96-300. Therefore, the only option for the survival of the country's leadership is secret bunkers in the Moscow region or in neighboring areas. And the main emphasis is on the word “secret”, since only secrecy can save the country's leadership in the event of a full-scale nuclear war.


Plot track Р316 "Teschin language"


Thirdly, Yamantau is not suitable for the role of the doomsday ark, since it does not have an appropriate transport infrastructure. Next to Yamantau, there is only one narrow and winding road, full of steep cliffs and bridges over mountain rivers. Only one truck will be able to block movement along the entire route, which happens even in peacetime. The railway, built in the Soviet Union right up to Mizhgirya, is now abandoned. In many places, the rails are removed, the bridges are in a dilapidated condition. The nearest airports are located in Ufa and Magnitogorsk, so the main hope for the highway. However, in case of emergency without the support of the engineering troops, the carrying capacity of the route will drop to zero. Remember what happens in large cities at rush hour, when only one car breaks down on the road, and multiply it by hundreds. Theoretically, you can walk to Yamantau from the highway itself, but landmarks easily get lost in the taiga, and in winter, without special equipment, the chances of reaching somewhere tend to zero.


Engineering vehicle lamination IMR-1


And, finally, Yamantau is not suitable for the role of the Doomsday Asylum, since the object has no military cover. It is the internal troops that could ensure order during evacuation, while the engineering units would guarantee the passage of equipment even with a weak transport infrastructure. Air defense could cover the mountain in case of an attack from the air. Meanwhile, the military units that once surrounded this object are now abandoned.

All these factors do not exclude the potentially more important role of Yamantau. This is evidenced by the fact that the railway was still built, there was an airport in Beloretsk, and the mountain was surrounded by multiple construction sites and military units. The fact that now this infrastructure has been destroyed and is not being restored is more likely to say that the government does not see a particular threat for which it is worth preparing.

Nevertheless, nuclear war is not the only risk for which it is worth building and maintaining a large underground facility. The possibility of a pandemic, a sudden geological or climatic catastrophe, the fall of a large meteorite or an asteroid remains. For this, it would be worthwhile to develop the transport infrastructure, because the current one does not guarantee the salvation of anyone except the Yamantau staff, and, perhaps, the inhabitants of Mezhgirya.



What is currently the object under the mountain Yamantau? There is a high proportion of the likelihood that there is one of the elements of the “Perimeter” system - the automatic control complex of a massive nuclear response. In this case, in the vicinity of the mountain should be rocket mines with command missiles, as well as satellite communications complexes. However, the first and last can be mobile. In addition, it is possible that in the underground palaces of Yamantau is a secret research or production facility. This version is indirectly confirmed by the presence of another closed city on the border with the South Ural Reserve. In Trekhgorny at the “Instrument-Making Plant”, since the year of 1952, they have been manufacturing nuclear ammunition. It is possible that the products of this plant are stored at Yamantau. Personally, I consider this version to be the most likely, since, due to its remoteness, the mountain provides additional security, and with an accidental detonation, the Yamantau mass will prevent radioactive dust from entering the atmosphere.

Let's sum up. Yamantau cannot claim to be Putin’s bunker, although with the proper development of the surrounding infrastructure, he has the potential to become something like an ark in case of a global catastrophe. Now Yamantau is not ready for this role. Most likely (guided by the principle of the Okham blade), the current main purpose of the facility under Mount Yamantau is a military warehouse.

Sources:
http://www.viewzone.com/yamantau.html
http://ufosecrecy.narod.ru/Yamantau.html
http://www.gradremstroy.ru/izvestnye_bunkery/bunker_putina
http://www.bashinform.ru/news/742376-avtomobilnyy-tonnel-v-ufe-budet-gotov-k-2020-godu/
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  1. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 8 June 2016 19: 04
    +26
    Maybe yes, maybe not ... In one word "military secret"!
    Well, it’s not necessary for us to know where the government or just the command bunker is located!
    It is enough to believe in the existence of the "Perimeter" itself!
    1. cniza
      cniza 8 June 2016 19: 09
      +14
      Let the adversaries guess.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 8 June 2016 20: 19
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Yamantau

        Yamantau is an evil mountain. fool
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 8 June 2016 21: 25
        +7
        Well, the "ethnographer" caught up with the intrigue. And what, in fact, to discuss? If there is a military object, then this is not your business, gentlemen of local history. And if there is no object, then there is nothing to find.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 8 June 2016 21: 39
          +7
          Is there life on Mars, is there life on Mars - science is not exactly known!
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 8 June 2016 21: 42
          +17
          If there is a military facility there, then this is not your business, gentlemen of local history. And if there is no object, then there is nothing to bay.

          I support. The purpose of the article? If the exchange of blows begins, no bunkers will save anyone. Some will evaporate, others will suffer a painful death. The military can entertain themselves with hopes of victory, that radiation and the subsequent environmental disaster are nonsense. For rats and cockroaches, some simple microbes can have hope.
          What are the Macingons and their affiliates counting on? Here they will strike a global blow and Russia itself will ask for mercy. I will not ask for mercy, I will fight with the enemy while I am alive.
          Respect to the defense industry and everyone who wears epaulets for a peaceful sky over Russia. hi
        3. Amurets
          Amurets 9 June 2016 05: 50
          +5
          Quote: Reserve officer
          Well, the "ethnographer" caught up with the intrigue. And what, in fact, to discuss? If there is a military object, then this is not your business, gentlemen of local history. And if there is no object, then there is nothing to find.

          On this topic, Russian proverbs answer well: "Curious Varvara, the nose was torn off at the bazaar." And "Curiosity is not a vice, but a big disgusting thing."
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    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 June 2016 19: 21
      +6
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Well, it’s not necessary for us to know where the government or just the command bunker is located!

      There are not one or two of them, as well as "nuclear suitcases", of which there are at least 3 pieces, and most likely even more. hi
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 June 2016 20: 23
        -1
        Most likely, this Perimeter system is activated when it receives a signal from an early warning system - "Missile attack", and according to the authors, it turns out that this is an artificial intelligence that works constantly without human intervention - and if this system fails, it can launch ICBMs in peacetime.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 8 June 2016 20: 41
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          Most likely, this Perimeter system is activated when it receives a signal from an early warning system - "Missile attack", and according to the authors, it turns out that this is an artificial intelligence that works constantly without human intervention - and if this system fails, it can launch ICBMs in peacetime.

          A failure cannot happen, because the system was created not with crooked hands and empty heads. I am sure that everything is duplicated there and more than once. Moreover, the system is protected from external interference in general by the better database of the Pentagon, Fort Knox and the Capitol combined.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 8 June 2016 21: 08
            -2
            Systems in which failures do not occur even in nature do not exist - the more complex the system, the higher the probability of failures.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 8 June 2016 21: 11
              +2
              Quote: Vadim237
              Systems in which failures do not occur even in nature do not exist - the more complex the system, the higher the probability of failures.

              If there was a failure, you would have sunburned in the form of a heap of ash on your "Bounty" long ago. hi
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 8 June 2016 21: 53
                0
                So I mean, that this system starts working only when a rocket attack is carried out on the side and there is no constant sense in its work, since we have the SPS system working around the clock.
            2. Alex_59
              Alex_59 8 June 2016 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              Systems in which failures do not occur even in nature do not exist - the more complex the system, the higher the probability of failures.

              There are crashes regularly. For example, our warriors revealed a case in the 90 years when the SPRN satellite issued a false command to detect the mass launch of an enemy’s ICBM. The failure occurred at the time of transition of the satellite SPRN from the shadow zone of the earth to the solar. The failure was rejected as false. As you can see, everyone is alive.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 9 June 2016 09: 33
                0
                The modern command post of SPRN - these guys have now eliminated errors in principle.
    4. Skif83
      Skif83 8 June 2016 19: 44
      +1
      Enough for the Obams to believe in the existence of the "Perimeter"!
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 20: 13
      +2
      Most likely under the Yamantau there is a storage of the Federal Reserve.
      1. reservist
        reservist 8 June 2016 20: 42
        0
        and how to load / unload something significant in volume without the appropriate transport infrastructure?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 June 2016 21: 22
          0
          Wagons or helicopters - who knows, maybe there are even special delivery and unloading tunnels from extra eyes.
          1. EVPanov
            EVPanov 12 November 2017 11: 51
            0
            not available ... there is taiga around and the only driveway ...
    6. Blondy
      Blondy 8 June 2016 21: 13
      +2
      Pack plus - for bringing so much mysterious romance and our prose of life.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 8 June 2016 21: 32
        +1
        The article is a minus for the moral decay of the people by alarmism. There will be what will be. And in order for there to be no atomic war, you need to arm yourself and know that the elite will not betray the people again, and make sure that the country does not have such an elite.
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 8 June 2016 21: 26
      +2
      Mdams, it’s not for nothing that I do not like bloggers. What can a local historian understand in military science? As you can see from the article - nothing. Why only defense is taken into account? After all, as you know, defense can go on the offensive. And vice versa.

      It is written as in newspapers with a yellow press. There is no evidence, but nothing at all. This is how the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, an article of the same category =)

      I have another strange question arose. And in our country, in general, the GRU? We all can learn about the war only by the departure of the rocket. As if the fact that in some country for no apparent reason they "suddenly" began to churn out military equipment is not a hint. The population at military facilities works more and complains to the comrades (one of whom may spyenom okazatsa). But why should we think about the soldiers of the invisible front. Everything is clear. The president of another country, without preparation, suddenly, at the behest of his left heel, presses the red button. Only this way and nothing else. The only question is that in order to start a really full-scale war (the Russian Federation is a big country and there are really a lot of missiles and troops), these missiles still need to be made, because. in more or less peacetime, it makes no sense to maintain a huge number of troops, which will eat the entire budget of the country. All this does not appear out of thin air.

      Those. with a couple of proposals on the GRU’s work, I’m already refuting almost the entire article about allegedly Putin’s bunker / not bunker. Moreover, the first, the second, although I heard about the first only from the author that she is, but I think there is the same garbage. For information of the GRU, this is the main intelligence department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And wars do not start spontaneously. If you are a local historian, you at least read history in the archives and understand what it takes for a full-scale war and how long it takes to collect it bit by bit.

      And about the fact that one truck can block the movement, well, that’s how you gave out perfectly =) I don’t know how to laugh at you as a fool or to cry from your ignorance in the matter.

      And indeed, all these fortune-telling in vegetable oil look like a session with a fortuneteller. Why do you need Putin’s bunker? Maybe this is Medvedev’s old bunker, they just didn’t clean up after themselves?

      Pzhalsta, do not write foolishness without reading the question. Study the land, not the closed objects that no one asks you to study. If you had information where Putin’s bunker is, then I think you would have already been dead in the morgue of the not-unknown American prison of Guantanomo. Therefore, even the local historian does not have to know the region before such questions.

      I rarely write here, but you can’t resist here.
      1. encarcelado
        24 October 2017 23: 11
        0
        Write less often.
      2. EVPanov
        EVPanov 12 November 2017 11: 54
        0
        and what, one truck will not be able to block the road? .. especially in a region like Beloretsky district?
        1. passerby5
          passerby5 15 January 2018 14: 56
          0
          Yes, he has not been there .... or even lives inside the garden, but he does not know what the roads look like in the mountains and the traffic conditions at certain times
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 June 2016 19: 05
    +11
    "There is a high degree of probability that one of the elements of the Perimeter system is located there."

    Awesome conclusion and further: "It is possible that a secret research or production facility is located in the underground halls of Yamantau." smile

    And there may also be a poultry farm, or a furniture workshop, maybe a research institute for exploration or a hairdresser. The article is powerful and most importantly everything is so justified. yes
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 8 June 2016 19: 26
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      And there may also be a poultry farm, or a furniture workshop, maybe a research institute for exploration or a hairdresser.

      No. ... for one simple reason, the literal translation of "Yamantau" is a bad mountain, therefore it will be a bad poultry farm, or a bad scientific research institute, it’s not worth talking about a hairdresser. yes wink Hi Zhenya! drinks ! But in reality, we, like the author of the article, can only assume that they have actually been building there for the past three decades. This is a fortune telling on coffee grounds and the result is a finger falling into the sky. What about the secrecy of the object, so my opinion is that if the railway and the highway go to the secret object openly, then what is it secret? Even the last donkey, having seen the railway disappearing sharply in the mountain, will understand that it is no accident. yes But one thought on the Internet is worth attention- According to the talks of geologists from water exploration, it can be judged that with the global covering of this area with thermonuclear charges, the water in this underground complex will remain clean for more than 300 years.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 8 June 2016 19: 29
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        the literal translation of "Yamantau" is a bad mountain, therefore it will be a bad poultry farm, or a bad research institute, there is no need to talk about a hairdresser.

        Russian synonym for the word "bad" site does not miss? smile
        Quote: Tersky
        Hi Zhenya!

        Hello dear. drinks
        Quote: Tersky
        Even the last donkey, having seen the railway disappearing sharply in the mountain, will understand that it is no accident.

        Maybe the money is over. what
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 June 2016 19: 29
        +6
        Quote: Tersky
        ... for one simple reason, the literal translation of "Yamantau" is a bad mountain,

        Based on the author's logic, any mountain on the territory of Russia should be viewed as an object of national importance, either Putin's command post, or an element of the Perimeter system.
        The question is, why is it not a UFO base? wassat
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 8 June 2016 19: 35
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          The question is, why is it not a UFO base?

          Rather, it was preparation for a meeting with the planet Naribu, as you know, it did not take place therefore and was preserved until the next ...wink
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 June 2016 19: 38
            +2
            Quote: Tersky
            Rather, it was preparation for a meeting with the planet Naribu,

            Planet called Nibiru. hi
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 8 June 2016 19: 42
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              The planet is called Nibiru.

              Here, here, and they were preparing for a meeting with Naribu, when they learned that Nibiru, realized that this mountain was not suitable, now they are digging another. yes
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 8 June 2016 19: 50
                +5
                Quote: Vladimirets
                , realized that this mountain is not suitable, now they are digging another.

                belay Kilimanjaro? ... Oh, this Putin, well, everywhere he is ... fellow
              2. NEXUS
                NEXUS 8 June 2016 20: 43
                +2
                Quote: Vladimirets
                Here, here, and they were preparing for a meeting with Naribu, when they learned that Nibiru, realized that this mountain was not suitable, now they are digging another.

                Well, yes, for example, Kazbeg or the peak of Lenin ... why trifle then? Everest is the most! laughing
              3. ssergn
                ssergn 8 June 2016 21: 40
                0
                Nah. No longer digging. They’ve already dug up the sea.
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 8 June 2016 19: 47
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              Planet called nibiru

              Yes, it doesn’t matter, the main root is from a very famous and often used Russian word in terms of fulfilling a promise ...wink laughing
              1. Bashibuzuk
                Bashibuzuk 8 June 2016 21: 54
                +1
                Once upon a time there was a planet Nibiru.
                Or maybe her name was Marabu.
                Or a Kangaroo, or Naeru,
                Or maybe just - Vy .....

                We decided to build a dugout.
                Ali just say a big trench.
                A tunnel was built, undermining was done,
                But as a result, they got it simply in the forehead!
                ...
                So it goes. Inspired. Singing on a tune In the distant bay of Timbuktu.
                .
                I would put this blogger .... I would put him in a dental chair and cut down his upper incisors with a zero file right up to his eyes.
                That he didn’t write nonsense and did not earn cheap popularity.
      3. Alex_59
        Alex_59 8 June 2016 21: 38
        0
        Quote: Tersky
        Even the last donkey, having seen the railway disappearing sharply in the mountain, will understand that it is no accident.

        And if the train goes along the railway line uphill, is it secret or not? What do you think? Just wondering.
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 8 June 2016 19: 09
    +3
    Something reminds me of the 90s
  4. dobrik10
    dobrik10 8 June 2016 19: 11
    +3
    And for whom is the report written, for VO or for the Pentagon?
    By the way, I’ve been in those parts, the places are beautiful, even the photo somewhere is on the background of these blinies.
  5. 52
    52 8 June 2016 19: 15
    +2
    Putin, in fact, flies in space at a secret orbital station. And here is his avatar. What is not the version? laughing
  6. jekasimf
    jekasimf 8 June 2016 19: 15
    +2
    This man is too much to know. Isn’t that a thak? Thavarish Beria ...
  7. NEXUS
    NEXUS 8 June 2016 19: 16
    +4
    Sorry, but rare nonsense. Thoughts, fantasies and Wishlist.
    There is a high probability that one of the elements of the Perimeter system is located there - the complex of automatic control of a massive retaliatory nuclear strike.

    Where are such conclusions from?
    In the figure under the explanation number 2, the phrase is generally killing on the spot -What nafig "Command rocket" ?!
    And a signature-video blogger-local historian. fool
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 8 June 2016 20: 32
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      Sorry, but rare nonsense. Thoughts, fantasies and Wishlist.
      There is a high probability that one of the elements of the Perimeter system is located there - the complex of automatic control of a massive retaliatory nuclear strike.
      Where are such conclusions from?
      In the figure under the explanation number 2, the phrase is generally killing on the spot -What nafig "Command rocket" ?!
      And a signature-video blogger-local historian.



      Now, Andrey - hi

      And then I, under another comment on the issue of the Perimeter, expressed doubt ...
    2. region58
      region58 8 June 2016 21: 23
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      What nafig "Command Rocket" ?!

      Index 15A11. It is launched in a special period and gives commands to launch all the missiles on alert.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 June 2016 21: 30
        +1
        Quote: region58
        Index 15A11. It is launched in a special period and gives commands to launch all the missiles on alert.

        This is from public sources such as Wikipedia ... but in fact, can you tell how the Perimeter will work? I guess not. And your extract from Wiki is just an extract, speculation about the desire to be informed.
        1. region58
          region58 8 June 2016 22: 56
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          This is from publicly available sources such as Wikipedia

          Yes, there are many articles on this topic. Here is the Rocket Technique website http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/15a11/15a11.shtml
          but in fact, you can generally say how the Perimeter will work?

          But in fact - that which is not from open sources has a corresponding signature stamp. And accordingly, no one will ever say what is not in the public domain. By the way, for what purpose are you interested in? bully
  8. kot11180
    kot11180 8 June 2016 19: 17
    +1
    Reminds one of Tormashev's book from the cycle "Ancient", who read it will understand.
  9. Averias
    Averias 8 June 2016 19: 17
    +8
    And next to the city of Beloretsk, I was born there. Next to it there are closed (I don’t know how now) villages of Tatly, Kuzelga, and in them are military, everything is as it should be. In Soviet times, there was a shortage of goods in stores. The salaries there were good. They made their way there through the forest, hiding from the guard, behind imported jams and other delicacies. There were a lot of rumors about these villages, the trolley, which drove uphill and drove uphill, was especially excited. And why in it, no one knew. Oooo, expanse for conspiracy theorists. And the places there are beautiful, the Inzer River and grayling in it. Grace.
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 8 June 2016 21: 22
      +1
      Quote: Averias
      trolley that drove uphill and drove uphill


      HalfLife!

  10. Petrov the son
    Petrov the son 8 June 2016 19: 22
    +2
    Graphomaniac! Just to write something.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 8 June 2016 20: 02
      0
      Quote: Petrov son
      Graphomaniac! Just to write something

      - Gramophone!
      - And why?
      - And it really hurts for a fucking ... peck seems ...

      Author Vadim Harichkov, video blogger, local historian

      ... cannibal and soul mate belay
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 8 June 2016 19: 24
    +5
    We have closer places where people in camouflage and with AK three-story advise not to come close. And around the taiga, which is characteristic, there are no roads even in the Russian sense. I almost drowned on foot in a rut. Do not show unhealthy interest in certain things.

    PS I went for mushrooms. Not for intelligence. I'm not a spy. Help is.
  12. demo
    demo 8 June 2016 19: 26
    +1
    Let's sum up. Yamantau cannot claim to be Putin’s bunker, although with the proper development of the surrounding infrastructure, he has the potential to become something like an ark in case of a global catastrophe. Now Yamantau is not ready for this role. Most likely (guided by the principle of the Okham blade), the current main purpose of the facility under Mount Yamantau is a military warehouse.

    Vadim Harichkov, video blogger, local historian:
    For very inquisitive - curiosity ruined the cat.
    And again: the monk was William Ockham, not Ockham.
    And one more thing: "It is not worth multiplying things unnecessarily."
    And you are multiplying.
    Although the monk meant otherwise.
    1. encarcelado
      9 June 2016 08: 48
      0
      "Occam" is an erroneous translation into Russian, which for some reason stuck. In English it is spelled Ockham and pronounced as "Ockham".
    2. Vladimir Babaev
      Vladimir Babaev April 6 2018 22: 29
      0
      or storage
  13. masiya
    masiya 8 June 2016 19: 29
    +1
    It’s not necessary to exhibit such things, even just for the sake of satisfaction and narcissism, to expose, everything is too serious in our modern shitty world to play toys, and God forbid, and the truth is, all the more so, it doesn’t cost the enemies to infu ... they themselves from their companions and agents are better than many informants in these matters they rule, but confirmation from our side is in their favor ...
  14. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 8 June 2016 19: 31
    +7
    I remember in the mid-90s I was very fond of reading the "yellow press". I remember one article (in AIDS-INFO, I think) about Michael Jackson. It said that after visiting Moscow, Michael became imbued with Russian culture and after arriving in the United States, he built a bell tower on the territory of his villa. And so he, they say, got drunk one evening and climbed onto this very bell tower to ring the bells. And since he was very drunk, he fell off this bell tower and after the fall, his nipple fell off. wassat
    This article on VO is not very different from the one I described above. Respect to the author. I recommend sending the material to Igor Prokopenko (Military Secret) on RenTV.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 20: 27
      0
      This publication should open a series of articles on VO - "Putin's bunkers all over Russia".
  15. ru0234
    ru0234 8 June 2016 19: 34
    0
    If there really is a secret, then they will talk about it in the past tense! (then, not now)
  16. something like
    something like 8 June 2016 19: 39
    +2
    The article is not just assumptions and questions. In general, you know less is better
    .
  17. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 June 2016 19: 48
    0
    How many such secrets in the country. We have the same local told. About 20 years ago it was. Technique went into the taiga along a taiga road, several trucks and a tank, but didn’t get back .... In the same area, an underground nuclear explosion was carried out in the year 85, but why it wasn’t explained (exploration recourse ) Who needs to know, and let the adversaries break their heads and don’t need to hint at them))
  18. ple
    ple 8 June 2016 20: 00
    +2
    In Trekhgorny, at the Priborostroitelny Zavod since 1952, they have been producing nuclear munitions. It is possible that the products of this plant are stored near Yamantau. Personally, I consider this version the most probable, since due to its remoteness the mountain provides additional security, and with accidental detonation, the Yamantau mass will prevent radioactive dust from entering the atmosphere.
    I myself live in this city .... and work there ... 12 gu can do this ... Military unit No. 41013 Trekhgorny-1 has been storing it for a long time ... I have not heard it.
    1. encarcelado
      9 June 2016 09: 05
      0
      Thanks for the clarifications. There is such a military unit and relates to the 12 th GU of the Ministry of Defense of Russia. Nevertheless, I am trying to imagine the process of planning the construction of an object near Yamantau in the 70's, as they studied maps of the area and read the reports of geologists. I think that the presence of Trekhgorny nearby played an important role in planning. The question is what.
  19. 31rus2
    31rus2 8 June 2016 20: 03
    +1
    Dear, what are you talking about? There are many such places in Russia and it’s not necessary to go to the Urals, but the point is that you should not write and even less climb there, if only for safety reasons. Something is outdated and lost its relevance, and something is brought in order.
  20. sergo1914
    sergo1914 8 June 2016 20: 05
    +2
    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    Quote: sergo1914
    PS I went for mushrooms. Not for intelligence. I'm not a spy. Help is

    Help that you are not a spy? good laughing
    Where is this issued, let me curiosity? repeat


    I drew it myself. To avoid. smile
  21. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 8 June 2016 20: 16
    0
    There is no need for idle reasoning and "wise" guesses. They specially hid something from prying eyes, so there is nothing to tryndet about it.
  22. weksha50
    weksha50 8 June 2016 20: 16
    +2
    "Author Vadim Harichkov, video blogger, local historian"...

    I don’t even know how to react to this article ...

    In Soviet times, even for one hundredth of the assumptions, the author would already have had an unpleasant conversation with counterintelligence ...

    Why the article ??? Intelligence analysts draw the bulk of interesting information from open media ...

    The assumption that someone from the knowledgeable people of Intermountain would now begin to refute or confirm something? Stupid ...

    In any case, there is some kind of secret object ... And should we discuss and suck this topic ???
  23. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 8 June 2016 20: 26
    +2
    ... nya - about nothing! The argument that neighbors were cooking dinner that year, judging by the smells circulated at that time! Attaching a photo from a cookbook that came to hand.
  24. Vadim237
    Vadim237 8 June 2016 20: 32
    0
    You don’t have to worry about the president - if something happens, they will deliver him from the Kremlin to the aerodrome by helicopter, and there he will transfer to the special board - Mig 31, which will deliver him to any part of Russia with maximum speed.
    1. encarcelado
      9 June 2016 08: 55
      0
      To deliver a fighter, you need a good runway at the beginning and end of the route. And then also delivery to the place (in case the bunker is removed from the strip). There is a double risk - firstly, not everywhere there is a suitable airfield, and secondly, they can also be destroyed by the first strike. Therefore, I think that the calculation can be either on a helicopter, or on underground communications.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 June 2016 09: 22
        0
        No one will spend on the warhead jump airfields.
        1. encarcelado
          9 June 2016 09: 37
          0
          I don’t have any NATO attack plans, but I don’t doubt that the military infrastructure will be destroyed in the first place.
  25. VeterS
    VeterS 8 June 2016 20: 34
    0
    "... Go to Kiev and ask who you were ... before perestroika ...!" And they will tell you EVERYTHING in Kiev about this terribly secret mountain!
  26. Earnest
    Earnest 8 June 2016 20: 40
    +1
    Eh, one of my old acquaintances would have read it ... Ara Mushegh, if you do, don't die laughing, okay? Better to join the group "Turquoise" or "451", we'll laugh there. And if you're 20 years old, tell the guys - I'm not sure I can make it.
    PS: who took my post for nonsense - do not rate, please. Who in the subject, everything is clear to him. Hello to the mountain people laughing
  27. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 8 June 2016 21: 04
    0
    or maybe not maybe yes maybe it's all the words .... trying to touch on closed topics but there's no sense
  28. slava5553
    slava5553 8 June 2016 21: 06
    0
    1. Look at the map, where is Moscow, and where is the Urals, which {catocombs}, for top officials.
    2. There are thousands of closed objects in any country.
    3. What matters to the states, for an unknown place, in Russia?
    4. Another blow to the water.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 21: 24
      0
      For top officials only planes and helicopters.
  29. Flinky
    Flinky 8 June 2016 21: 10
    -1
    What is the article about?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 21: 56
      -1
      About guesses and assumptions - what is under the Yamantau mountain.
    2. slava5553
      slava5553 8 June 2016 22: 34
      0
      Read, so as not to merge
  30. Mestny
    Mestny 8 June 2016 21: 12
    0
    Quote: Talker
    Where am I going to hide? The last teachings of civil defense I remember only in Soviet times. It is clear that antiterrorist teachings are more fashionable now, but for me something more important is GO!

    Well, where?
    You urgently need to learn a few phrases in the language of the enemy - "carry on trill! I hate my people! I am ready to serve you!"
    Raise your hands, and run towards the border with joyful screams.
  31. Alex_59
    Alex_59 8 June 2016 21: 19
    +1
    Funny article. smile The extraction of ore for the production of nuclear fuel and ammunition is not so carefully encrypted - anyone who knows how to use Google can safely find those places in the Russian Federation where all this is mined and produced. But you won’t get there, it’s not Yamantau, you won’t even come close.

    But about the bunker ... There is a mountain in Russia, where the bunker is located quite calmly and imperceptibly, namely the spare command post for the retaliation strike. It is in the mountain range. But there are no stalkers crawling on a half-abandoned technogen, there are completely different means of camouflage, and you won't even come close and see what you shouldn't see. But you can sit a hundred meters away and drink beer, and you won't notice anything. Yamantau is an ideal "false object" in this sense. It is not clear that a certain mysterious aura is created, stalkers crawl, all with a clever look - "there is something here." There it is, but not here. But where it is located - I will not say. smile
  32. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 8 June 2016 21: 20
    +3
    The author is like that cat who has nothing to do. All that was written in the article is bullshit. The only truth is that the town with the name "Mizhgirya"
  33. 1goose3
    1goose3 8 June 2016 21: 57
    0
    Had to be in those parts, repeatedly. If there were a bunch of tolerances, you could get into the town, the location of military units leading the construction site. And in the shops, at that time, there was absolutely everything that attracted everyone there. But the turn to the construction area was stopped instantly, but the construction there was grandiose.
  34. ando_bor
    ando_bor 8 June 2016 22: 06
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    One of me sickened by this video? Over the past two days, ten times already, he was definitely posted here. And the song between us is gamble, just for the malice of the day. And the guy does not know how to play nirazu ...

    This is an Internet meme that Ukrainians created and actively promoted, even before the song appeared, then Slepakov connected with his song so successfully, I don’t think that he is so stupid that, by misunderstanding, Akhedzhaknak.
    The number of his appearances on the site indicates the activity of hohlobots, although there may be brainless victims.
    - That's what the information war looks like.
  35. Andkor1962
    Andkor1962 9 June 2016 07: 33
    0
    Another mystery of Russia. Yes, God, so that the West has as many mysteries as possible. To make my head swell.
  36. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 9 June 2016 07: 51
    0
    In the 90s he worked with the university 30 and with "Makeevka" (Miass) - under RENO loaded metal from Magnitogorsk! By the way, they worked well. shock both on the ground and underground - responsibly! And most importantly, "secret" - even local historians could not "raskraeved" anything: "You know less. You sleep more calmly!" or even from the 90s "gangster": "Who used to tyr, today sleeps with open eyes!" What is RENAULT (tax exemptions?) - would the late Shurik Pochinok tell you better than others, but rest in peace to him ... on Novodevichy !? So in the conditions of a shortage of funds, there were enthusiasts and patriots, there were schemes like no money (on a net basis) and facilities to build, and missiles for the Navy to develop and do! "Heroes are not YOU?"
    1. vics
      vics 22 September 2017 02: 01
      0
      With whom did you talker worked in the 90s? ))))) Explain what a university 30? In fact, it was the CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT (US-30))))) A worker with a university 30! )))
  37. Old26
    Old26 9 June 2016 08: 13
    0
    Quote: region58
    Quote: NEXUS
    What nafig "Command Rocket" ?!

    Index 15A11. It is launched in a special period and gives commands to launch all the missiles on alert.

    In general, you are both wrong. Andrey is that he doubted (?) The term "command missile", and you that you gave a quote from Wiki indicating the index 15A11. The rocket was decommissioned TWENTY years ago.

    Quote: weksha50
    I don’t even know how to react to this article ...

    But George do not react in any way. The "article" is not even worthy of being given a MINUS.

    Quote: weksha50
    In Soviet times, even for one hundredth of the assumptions, the author would already have had an unpleasant conversation with counterintelligence ...

    In Soviet times, nothing similar in the press could appear a priori. Although it was sometimes nonsense. It’s my duty ... I had to, let’s say, browse through Western military-technical publications. It sometimes came to delirium. In our reprint edition articles about our military equipment, and not only about it, were seized, although in the original everything remained in the magazine. And so much more. Although something simpler. Distribute these magazines without banknotes in a closed mode, even if they were in the First Division, and with banknotes - in ordinary libraries

    Quote: weksha50
    Why the article ??? Intelligence analysts draw the bulk of interesting information from open media ...
    The assumption that someone from the knowledgeable people of Intermountain would now begin to refute or confirm something? Stupid ...

    Indeed, the bulk of the information comes from open sources, repeatedly checking and double-checking. And the calculation that someone will be in a breeze - the probability is minimal, although there is one. But I think that they have much more analytics on this mountain than the video historian-local historian
    They already know where the command missiles are, since, according to the treaty, we are obliged to provide information on all deployed and non-deployed ICBMs (and they belong to the category of non-deployed), their number. This information is open and, if desired, anyone can find it on the internet. And about "command rockets" taking off from the mountain - this is certainly cool.

    Quote: weksha50
    In any case, there is some kind of secret object ... And should we discuss and suck this topic ???

    Not worth it. There are and are. And what is there ... Whoever needs it, they know. And sometimes we do not need extra knowledge
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 June 2016 08: 47
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      In general, you are both wrong. Andrey doubted (?) The term "command missile"

      Good morning, Vladimir. hi
      I did not doubt the term "Command Rocket", but simply did not understand the reasoning of a local historian-blogger about the Perimeter as an expert in this matter. hi
      1. encarcelado
        9 June 2016 09: 11
        0
        The Wikipedia article on Yamantau indicated that the mountain could be one of the elements of the "Perimeter". Now the article has shrunk a lot and references to the object have disappeared.
        1. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 9 June 2016 12: 12
          +1
          Quote: encarcelado
          The Wikipedia article on Yamantau indicated that the mountain could be one of the elements of the "Perimeter". Now the article has shrunk a lot and references to the object have disappeared.

          The Ukrainian Wikipedia says that bunkers are being built there for the leadership of the Russian Federation
          Quote: Wikipedia-yua
          Bilya pіdnіzhzhya of roztasovaniye ZATU mіsto Manzhgor'є, in which a large-scale secret underground construction is being conducted, іmovіrno bunkers for the core of Russia on the basis of nuclear war.
  38. Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 9 June 2016 09: 19
    +2
    The blogger is a godsend for the spy!
  39. Artybyrd
    Artybyrd 9 June 2016 13: 07
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    for a few kilometers around there will be a smooth, almost mirror surface

    Handsomely.... winked

    I agree. I am only sorry that I will not see this anymore crying

    Although the current landscape is quite fine with me:


    Hello, fellow countryman! The sky above our heads is well protected, although you and I are the number one goal; )
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 13 June 2016 18: 10
      0
      Quote: ArtyByrd
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      for a few kilometers around there will be a smooth, almost mirror surface

      Handsomely.... winked

      I agree. I am only sorry that I will not see this anymore crying

      Although the current landscape is quite fine with me:

      Hello, fellow countryman! The sky above our heads is well protected, although you and I are the number one goal; )

      You will laugh, but this is not Moscow. And not even very close yes
  40. Clueless
    Clueless 9 June 2016 13: 34
    0
    Corresponding structures have long been created in Gorny Altai. More precisely, there are many such structures around the country. Does it make sense for us to know about them? We won’t get there anyway :)
  41. Buffet
    Buffet 9 June 2016 18: 35
    0
    As far as the officers told me during my service, there are several government bunkers, like 4 (more MB). Several of them are in the suburbs, and I served on one of them. All of them relate precisely to the "perimeter" project (according to the officers' stories). And secret branches of Metro-2 are coming to them. And what was in "our": headquarters and warehouses with everything they could, but the conscripts who were there saw only equipment. A lot of equipment and all zero. Those who went there on PCBs told that there were a lot of corridors with the same type of doors, in some like classrooms and the like. A bunch of floors down and near each corridor there is a sign "without a colonel (lieutenant colonel) this is not to be opened." Something like that...
  42. nerobot6067
    nerobot6067 14 March 2017 01: 11
    0
    The author of the previously written already realized that "Wrote, admit, stupidity." From what is written here, one can say the same thing. Fantasy is not too rich, it seems like a high school student’s work, and the true information is only that the construction was conducted by the Construction Administration No. 30 (from Glavtonnelmetrostroy). Work began at the very end of the 70s. and the reference that the USA was worried only in 1996 is not true. As for the uranium mining, the official version was launched, all workers were instructed to respond in such a way to the possible inquiries of "curious" individuals. The version is really clumsy, a specialist or anyone who had previously worked on uranium mining in Krasnokamensk or another 6 enterprises in the USSR could immediately say that there is nothing to do with uranium mining here. Moreover, a completely different department was engaged in uranium. The name of the city has changed since at least 5 times. Salaries were increased (coefficient + 112%). Prohibition in the early years, only for the holidays brought excellent varieties of wine, which in the country was very difficult to buy. Some "plainclothes residents" sometimes wore pants with stripes to meet with helicopter passengers. I have in my workbook the entry “The area equated to the Far North. Adopted ............” What is there now is not necessary to guess. What you need to be there is what it is. The state must be protected. Hiroshima taught the world a lot. Know only those who are supposed to. The Accounts Chamber cannot receive financial plan information for this facility (even this department is not supposed to know). Therefore, "writers" must write about nature, love, etc. And here, without us, they will figure it out.
    1. encarcelado
      2 August 2017 00: 42
      0
      Man, less leniency. We are all experts and experts, when we see an answer on the screen of a television game, we think how stupid this player is, who puzzles over the answer.
  43. fenicssa
    fenicssa April 18 2017 14: 52
    0
    There is infa, but there is disa. In Yamantau, everything that we planned has already been done. Regarding the purpose of the underground mini-city, with real high-rise buildings, streets, street lighting, several high-speed elevators to a depth of more than 300 meters, she counted about 14 versions that were specially launched in the media by the competent authorities at the end of 70 years. Multilevel tunnels, about 10, diverge in different directions at distances of up to 100-150 km., To the nearest, but not all cities. There is also a piece of iron in them, there is also a road surface. There are also many branches to special rooms, where the Ivanovets truck crane will easily unfold with a raised arrow. So in the event of an emergency, there is no need to rush to Kuzjelga or to the Pikhta station, especially since the piece of iron from Yusha to Kuzjelga has not been operating for more than 12 years. And I don’t remember that a train, an electric train or a diesel locomotive passed through it at least once. What is actually below is difficult to guess, apparently the object has several destinations. Everything is now being delivered there by underground, including from the former TransSib. But the fact that the underground city is a fact. Reliable informants. Some worked there in the tunnel, others installed energy supply and life support systems, others served the emergency service in guarding the facility, going down several times, accompanying civilians from some research institutes. I had an acquaintance who served an extra urgent driver, drove a regiment in charge of accepting subordinate facilities to him. the speed of movement in the tunnels is 30 km / h, the travel time sometimes up to 2 hours. A lot of interesting things can be said about this object, but I do not risk it. I’ll say right away that now I haven’t betrayed any special secrets, since much of what I told about can be found on the forums. The granite of Mount Yamantau is especially durable, even in the Urals it is such a rarity.
    1. encarcelado
      2 August 2017 00: 27
      0
      Thank. For the sake of such comments, I wrote this article. I do not think that there is anything in the subject that reveals state secrets. Most likely, the object was designed in such a way that only a detailed underground map could give out its vulnerabilities. I think few people working on the project had such a document. I came to the conclusion that this is not an underground city, but rather a system of underground settlements connected by tunnels located at a considerable distance from each other. Only a large area and remoteness of nodes can serve as a guarantee of their survivability. Also, for the delivery of materials and people in case of emergency there must be multiple remote entries. One could write an interesting book like Metro 2033
      1. encarcelado
        2 August 2017 00: 50
        0
        I completely abandoned the idea of ​​the narrow and limited role of the facility near Yamantau, when I walked along an abandoned railway line from Tatlov to Mizhhirya. There are 20 km. electrified, pierced almost directly through the mountains by a piece of iron with nine large bridges. They did not spare money for it at all and it was operated for only 15 years. If such funds were thrown onto the road for temporary transportation, what can we say about investments in the object itself.
        1. Denzel
          Denzel 23 September 2017 18: 34
          0
          It's funny If you see a fox digging a hole, the most logical thing is to assume that it will be a fox hole, and the fox will live there. Really right? Well, here it is. If we see that the US-30 (GUSP) and military unit 71111 (9U MO) are digging something, what versions can there be at all?
          1. encarcelado
            25 September 2017 22: 04
            0
            They could preserve or, so to speak, change the concept - for example, they could turn it from a storage facility into a storage of the State Reserve. You never know ... Recently I was in the Crimea and visited the ZKP PRF. This is the same age as the facility near Yamantau. At 1992, at 70-80% was ready for delivery. I suspect similar construction technologies were used. Now abandoned and plundered for uselessness by Ukraine.
            1. encarcelado
              29 September 2017 12: 12
              0
              This is to say that the collapse of the USSR changed many plans.
  44. Denzel
    Denzel 1 October 2017 10: 49
    0
    Quote: encarcelado
    Could or, so to speak, change the concept ..

    Changing the concept is unlikely. Otherwise, military unit 71111 would not have hosted there until now, and it would not have guarded it all. Would find someone simpler. Take an interest, for example, than the current commander 71111 commanded earlier and which organizational unit it is a branch of.

    Preserve? So, after all, such objects should be preserved. For the time being.

    As for technology - if we talk about sinking, then maybe the same. As for the rest - hardly.
  45. Vladimir Babaev
    Vladimir Babaev April 6 2018 22: 11
    0
    I served there in 90-92 Beloretsk-16 .... military unit 12764 ...... underground ... the first descent was at 240 m ........... ..... everything was kept secret until ........ I went to work through 3 checks ....... I had a 75% clearance
    1. Denzel
      Denzel 18 May 2018 13: 37
      0
      75 - is it a stamp in a warrior, or what?
  46. encarcelado
    4 February 2021 09: 40
    0
    An acquaintance of the FSB mentioned with bitterness (either he did not consider it very secret, or he gave me misinformation, or he sounded a rumor from work) that the Americans had taken everything they could along Yamantau from Mizhgirya in the early 2010s.
    1. Denzel
      Denzel 6 February 2021 16: 20
      0
      The Americans drove into Tsentralny in tanks, took the Directorate by storm and took out all the documents? winked

      At the end of the year, Putin said: “The creation of a new command post with almost absolute protection, including strategic nuclear forces, is at the final stage. Its safety margin will be extremely high. "

      And the helicopter pad for three cars at Transportnaya did not just appear.