Military Review

APU fired on the militia positions in the LC

64
Divisions of the Ukrainian security forces for the day 7 once opened fire from mortars, infantry fighting vehicles and small weapons on the positions of the People's Militia of the Lugansk Republic, reports RIA News message of the military department of the LC.




"On the fourth of June in 19.17, shelling from the village of Luganskoye was recorded on our positions near the village of Kalinovka from the BMP-1, in 23.25 - from the village of Luganskoye to the area of ​​Lozovoe from the BMP-2," the report said.

According to the information, “5 of June in 00.05 - from the same direction, the Ukrainian security forces again opened fire on the positions of the People’s Militia in the Lozovoi area, using a mortar of a millimeter 82 caliber and small arms”.

"In total in the LC from June 4 to June 5 2016, seven shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine were recorded," the department said.

The representative of the People's Militia stressed that the LNR did not open fire.

Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, RIA News
64 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. CORNET
    CORNET 5 June 2016 13: 23
    +24
    Faster already .....
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 5 June 2016 13: 48
      +18
      First Mariupol ..
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 5 June 2016 14: 07
        +4
        Quote: Thrall
        First Mariupol ..

        Better to Kharkov ....
        1. boozer
          boozer 5 June 2016 15: 26
          +3
          Yes, Kharkov in its time also let us down, and Dnepropetrovsk ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 June 2016 17: 56
            +5
            Sooner or later, but it will happen, all of New Russia and Little Russia will be released.
          2. The comment was deleted.
        2. ,
          , 5 June 2016 18: 30
          0
          In short, it is necessary to include the second already, the people of Kiev tickle for yay ,,,, kI
        3. aleks700
          aleks700 6 June 2016 05: 48
          0
          Quote: Thrall

          First Mariupol ..

          Better to Kharkov ....

          Not a sport. Both.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 5 June 2016 17: 41
        -3
        Quote: Thrall
        First Mariupol ..

        Yes, yes, the bosses, first on Penzyuki, well, from them then, their-ho-ho .. and then there will be a victory and that’s right, I always didn’t love them, my woman was killed away ......
        Sorry, but then ... "bend your line."
        Guys want power, but it’s understandable, they got the go-ahead, here and there.
        Well, we weren't born yesterday either, sorry, well, very humbly, we don't know how to cut. Well, it didn't work out. We call it "take the pitchfork", it seems so? Well, by God.
      3. masiya
        masiya 5 June 2016 19: 39
        0
        and to Mariupol too ...
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 June 2016 14: 46
      +10
      "In the DPR, the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed 22000 houses... The DPR announced some updated data on the damage to the Republic inflicted by Ukraine, demonstrating to the residents of Donbass its sincere desire to arrange with them right now that European, that duzhe "food for the land." More than 22 private and apartment buildings throughout the DPR were damaged or destroyed during shelling by the Ukrainian army during the conflict, the press service of the DPR Ministry of Construction and Housing and Utilities said today. “Since the beginning of hostilities, 17803 private and 4233 apartment buildings have been damaged in the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. 1793 private houses and 60 high-rise buildings cannot be restored, ”the Ministry of Construction said.

      According to the construction department, instead of completely destroyed the DPR authorities erected 118 residential buildings in the private sector and one high-rise building. 2596 private and 825 apartment buildings were repaired.

      “The statistics given are constantly being updated, as due to the ongoing shelling, the operational data on new destruction in the Republic is constantly updated,” the ministry said.

      They added that due to hostilities or the absence of the owners, the commission for the restoration of the DPR cannot get access to a significant number of private houses to determine the degree of damage. In particular, there are 583 such houses in the capital, and 574 in Yasinovataya.

      We will remind, on the territory of the DPR "liberated" by Ukraine, there are also numerous destructions. But during the two years of the occupation of Donbass, Kiev was honored to repair only one apartment building. The unprecedentedness of the event was emphasized by the visit of Petro Poroshenko himself, who personally arrived at its "opening". "

      VSUshnik gives an interview to Ukrainian TV, the arrival of 82-mm min.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 5 June 2016 15: 57
        +12
        Quote: Sith Lord
        VSUshnik gives an interview to Ukrainian TV, the arrival of 82-mm min.

        The sound of a mortar shot is heard, VSUshnik is clearly not scared or even alert, an interview is being conducted with ukroSMI. We can conclude who shoots. yes
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 5 June 2016 16: 05
          +3
          Yes, most likely you are right.
        2. Makarov
          Makarov 5 June 2016 17: 30
          +1
          by the sound of arrival ...
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 6 June 2016 05: 25
            +1
            Quote: Makarov
            by the sound of arrival ...

            Revised whistle and clap. Arrivals
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 6 June 2016 07: 23
              0
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Revised whistle and clap. Arrivals

              Maybe for the characteristic "pneumatic" sound of a shot, I took it as a pounding on the microphone. what
    4. Deniska999
      Deniska999 5 June 2016 16: 21
      -1
      This is unlikely to be ... Alas.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 June 2016 13: 26
    -8
    Oh, where's my black gun, on the Big Carriage. Well Photo Shot to Kiev! Correct, otherwise exhausted. And it’s time to live our own lives, since these are independent people.
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny 5 June 2016 14: 27
      +4
      maybe it’s worth reducing the number of errors in the text of your cry of the soul? hi
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 June 2016 16: 20
      +1
      Are you 17 years old ?? Once you can’t clearly write, so at least act .. Go to Kiev !!
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Oh, where's my black gun, on the Big Carriage. Well Photo Shot to Kiev! Correct, otherwise exhausted. And it’s time to live our own lives, since these are independent people.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. creak
        creak 5 June 2016 17: 05
        +2
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Oh, where's my black gun, on the Big Carriage. Well Photo Shot to Kiev! Correct, otherwise exhausted.


        Kiev is not Berlin - do not confuse horseradish with a finger ...
        And for starters, learn to write correctly in Russian at least ...
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 5 June 2016 18: 52
        -7
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Are you 17 years old ?? Once you can’t clearly write, so at least act .. Go to Kiev !!
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Oh, where's my black gun, on the Big Carriage. Well Photo Shot to Kiev! Correct, otherwise exhausted. And it’s time to live our own lives, since these are independent people.

        Man, you first go to the refrigerator, get hungry, it helps, it’s checked. And then articulate the claim. And then two tributaries, three swatches and answer in all severity. What did you want to say, heartfelt?
        1. An60
          An60 6 June 2016 05: 48
          +1
          Not ham, boy. Your banter is similar to ukropovsky.
  3. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 5 June 2016 13: 33
    +3
    Well, well, okay - hit the sleeping people, pull the ukrardenok. When will these villains be calmed down? That’s just the tomatoes would have torn off those cattle who hammer at sleeping people and yell about "nezalezhnost". OU, Uncle Vova, isn't it time?
  4. svp67
    svp67 5 June 2016 13: 37
    +3
    The OSCE monitoring group, in recent days, complains about the loss of several UAVs over the territory of the DPR ... Apparently they are trying to fly in the wrong place.
  5. Vasiliev Yu
    Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 13: 39
    +11
    I will express myself here too.
    Am I dumb alone? I alone do not believe that Bander ... the logs will not fulfill the Minsk agreements ever?
    What a cunning ... ass plan we have, that we always mumble about the Minsk Agreements, officially both Putin and Lavrov talk about this, in words they hope for their implementation by Ukraine? What kind of stupidity?
    Western mongrels impudently demand from us to execute them, and we all stupidly try to convince them that we have nothing to do with.
    Why not respond adequately to their impudence and recognize the Donbass republics? Again I ask: what's the tricky plan? I see only the idiocy of the situation, and the same idiotic actions.
    PS If something positive really happens extraordinary in favor of the Donbass on the part of our government, I will be the first to publicly repent of my unbelief. Never denied my mistakes.
    1. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 14: 02
      +12
      I realized now that it reminds me:
      Talk show `` The Right to Vote '' and Solovyov has conversations with Bandera ... logs. They brazenly lie, compose, read contracts as they want, yell, drowning out everyone. 2 years have passed and who convinced them of anything? It would ... the louse does not understand the words of persuasion, these creatures only understand power, when will it reach our rulers? Conniving at Bandera ... logs, we unwittingly multiply the grief in the Donbass, when an insane was ... kills and injures their residents.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 5 June 2016 19: 33
        +3
        Quote: vasiliev yu
        Talk show .... conversations with bander ... logs

        maybe someone did not see how Kovtuna was given in the face
        =====
        On May 26, during the filming of the socio-political talk show “Process”, the Ukrainian dill politician Kovtun received what he had deserved and persistently asked for.

    2. APASUS
      APASUS 5 June 2016 14: 17
      +3
      Quote: vasiliev yu
      Again I ask: what's the tricky plan?

      The tricky plan is to hold all this gang-watering can for eggs. Here, having paused for two years from the Maidan, we got what we were so eager for at the beginning ............. now Poroshenko with his ideas soon they’ll raise the pitchfork. Only Poroshenko and Co. could discredit their own ideas and country.
      In a general sense, the example is quite simple: Georgia. Now they are busy building their own state, and ours seem to even trade with them.
      Politics is a dirty business and every day brings new sacrifices, but we do not live in the time of the knights
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 5 June 2016 15: 31
        +3
        Perhaps your plan is missing the traditional last letter "P".

        1) According to this "plan", the Ukrainian army is ready with pleasure every day to exterminate the people of Donbass with impunity. And this is the main point.
        2) The forklift forks (Lyashko, Kolomoisk battalions, etc.) recognized by the Kremlin Poroshenko has long been put under control.
        3) The main ones in Kiev are Biden and K, and you can't lift them up.
        4) The Kremlin's "knightly" behavior towards "partners" in Minsk would not hurt to change to "dirty".
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 5 June 2016 16: 08
        +3
        Quote: APASUS
        Thus, only Poroshenko and Co. could discredit their own ideas and country.


        In support of what you have said, I will give two notes on two regions subject to Kiev, moreover, pay attention to the top note (Cossacks refer to Zakharchenko ???). (cry)
      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 5 June 2016 17: 08
        0
        Politics is a dirty business .. And every politician, both in the Kremlin and in Kiev, is trying to catch his goldfish .. It's a pity that during this "fishing" people die .. Yes, this is not a tragedy-statistics for them ..
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 5 June 2016 14: 51
      +7
      Well, if you put the question like that? It looks like you yourself answered it. laughing Well, in the case. Naturally, the fact that the urki would violate the Minsk agreements was clear even at their conclusion. Surely no one doubted this. request Another thing is that the side that will launch a full-scale offensive will be immediately declared an aggressor AND TERMINATED AGREEMENT. Considering that at the time of the conclusion of these agreements, the Debaltsev operation was still in progress, ordinary shelling or small clashes are not considered a disruption. These assault shells from the BMP are what last year was considered to be household and they were not even considered. Now it is already considered and written down.
      Minsk2 suits all parties, except for Ukraine, and therefore she really wants to abandon it, but is afraid. Therefore, Ukrainian politicians say one thing in the west, and another inside the country. And here propaganda does an inconvenient thing, because it distorts the perception of reality by the average person. The Ukrainians were told that their army is one of the strongest on the continent and they do not understand why such a "powerful" army has not yet taken Donetsk and Lugansk. The explanation that this is the zrada and betrayal of the piglet suits everyone. They say "now, if we were not held back, we would have reached the Kremlin." And the average man believes in it.
      We have the same picture. The layman was told in every possible way about the power of the militia, about his victory, the silent role of the Wentorg and the north wind in these victories. And our layman is also sure that if the Kremlin had not stopped, then all would have reached Kiev. Amendment - if the Kremlin hadn’t stopped, it was vacationers who could have reached Kiev, not the militia. Vacationers completed the task and returned from vacation. The reason is simple. The Russian Federation now has no problems in dill that could be resolved by military means. There will be tasks - they will be solved. hi
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 16: 42
        +4
        Bl ... I, again, like blindfolded. I have already written more than once that it is not necessary to enter the army there, let the republics be recognized as independent, they shouldn’t be annexed to Russia now, having recognized enough, they should start officially supplying serious weapons, just as the West is supplying openly bander ... logs. You can help them by seeing that Russia is openly supporting the Donbass, it will not jump off this, as in 2014, the people in Ukraine will help themselves (and with our unofficial participation, without advertising) to take power into Zakharchenko’s hands. I’m sure he will become president after the election there then. Donbass residents will clean Ukraine from all evil, and the country will no longer be hostile to us. How much can this give us useful? Then you can think about the CSTO with them, then there are a lot of positive options, let the specialists calculate.
        We are smeared with insolent shit, they (the West) play with us according to their vile rules, and we portray all of Dartanyan.
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 6 June 2016 05: 59
          +1
          Bl ... I, again, like blindfolded. I have already written more than once that it is not necessary to enter the army there, let the republics be recognized as independent, they shouldn’t be annexed to Russia now, having recognized enough, they should start supplying officially with serious weapons, just as the West is supplying openly bander ... logs.
          Shake your hand.
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 5 June 2016 17: 28
        0
        I agree with you. That's just about the junta, if they completely collapse from the oak and start the offensive, stopudovo protectors will declare that they are defending ..
        Quote: g1v2
        Well, if you put the question like that? It looks like you yourself answered it. laughing Well, in the case. Naturally, the fact that the urki would violate the Minsk agreements was clear even at their conclusion. Surely no one doubted this. request Another thing is that the side that will launch a full-scale offensive will be immediately declared an aggressor AND TERMINATED AGREEMENT. Considering that at the time of the conclusion of these agreements, the Debaltsev operation was still in progress, ordinary shelling or small clashes are not considered a disruption. These assault shells from the BMP are what last year was considered to be household and they were not even considered. Now it is already considered and written down.
        Minsk2 suits all parties, except for Ukraine, and therefore she really wants to abandon it, but is afraid. Therefore, Ukrainian politicians say one thing in the west, and another inside the country. And here propaganda does an inconvenient thing, because it distorts the perception of reality by the average person. The Ukrainians were told that their army is one of the strongest on the continent and they do not understand why such a "powerful" army has not yet taken Donetsk and Lugansk. The explanation that this is the zrada and betrayal of the piglet suits everyone. They say "now, if we were not held back, we would have reached the Kremlin." And the average man believes in it.
        We have the same picture. The layman was told in every possible way about the power of the militia, about his victory, the silent role of the Wentorg and the north wind in these victories. And our layman is also sure that if the Kremlin had not stopped, then all would have reached Kiev. Amendment - if the Kremlin hadn’t stopped, it was vacationers who could have reached Kiev, not the militia. Vacationers completed the task and returned from vacation. The reason is simple. The Russian Federation now has no problems in dill that could be resolved by military means. There will be tasks - they will be solved. hi
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 June 2016 17: 05
      0
      Here try to convey it to the Kremlin-cunning planners are all there ..
      Quote: Vasilyev u
      I will express myself here too.
      Am I dumb alone? I alone do not believe that Bander ... the logs will not fulfill the Minsk agreements ever?
      What a cunning ... ass plan we have, that we always mumble about the Minsk Agreements, officially both Putin and Lavrov talk about this, in words they hope for their implementation by Ukraine? What kind of stupidity?
      Western mongrels impudently demand from us to execute them, and we all stupidly try to convince them that we have nothing to do with.
      Why not respond adequately to their impudence and recognize the Donbass republics? Again I ask: what's the tricky plan? I see only the idiocy of the situation, and the same idiotic actions.
      PS If something positive really happens extraordinary in favor of the Donbass on the part of our government, I will be the first to publicly repent of my unbelief. Never denied my mistakes.
    5. aleks700
      aleks700 6 June 2016 05: 53
      +2
      I will express myself here too.
      Am I dumb alone? I alone do not believe that Bander ... the logs will not fulfill the Minsk agreements ever?
      What a cunning ... ass plan we have, that we always mumble about the Minsk Agreements, officially both Putin and Lavrov talk about this, in words they hope for their implementation by Ukraine? What kind of stupidity?
      No, not one. I'm dumb too. What a cunning plan I do not understand.
  6. evil partisan
    evil partisan 5 June 2016 13: 50
    +3
    I hope the answer flies to them corresponding ... I don’t even hope - I know. In the DNI, I have a friend, an artilleryman. Periodically unsubscribes ...
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 5 June 2016 15: 59
      +4
      I will quote the topic.
      Alexander Zhuchkovsky.
      And about the fact that they take away everything "heavy" and ammunition, leave one rifle, do not allow to respond to shelling, etc. Indeed, there are areas where they take away, do not give, etc. - mainly where the OSCE people roam and where there is friction between the local and central military command. In other areas, everything is exactly the opposite, including very emotional responses. In the end, read the reports of the end of May, when the next exacerbation began, and when so much iron flew towards the enemy (for example, in retaliation for a tough artillery attack on the Kuibyshevsky district of Donetsk) that the Ukrainians moaned for a week and drove whole columns of cars with the wounded to the Dnieper ...
      I will summarize, or rather repeat what I have written about many times. The political process, the "give-away game" goes on as usual, and the military conflict goes on as usual. The Center's support for the republics and the militia continues, and the negative aspects like the ones listed above are of a private, not general nature. The desire of the Russian Federation on the tenth round to come to an agreement with Kiev, hence many ostentatious actions and statements (although these actions are erroneous, and the statements are outrageous, as, for example, by Lavrov recently). But the drain scenario is not being realized and support for the LDPR does not stop, since the politicians are not completely sure of the possibility of reaching an agreement, and the security forces, for their part, are pushing their line.
      The main negative moment now and a serious cause for concern is the possible arming of the OSCE staff, albeit with light riflemen. But, firstly, it has not yet been implemented, and secondly, if it is being implemented, the consequences of this may be the most unexpected - the intervention of "European observers" in an armed conflict (it will not be difficult to provoke the Ukrainians), an increase in international tension, the activation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and as a consequence, retaliatory measures by the Russian Federation and the militia forces).
      By the way, the militias are discussing the issue of arming OSCE personnel with small arms with great interest. Many hope to finally get hold of interesting specimens, for example, "Glocks".
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 5 June 2016 21: 12
        +1
        Quote: g1v2
        I will summarize, or rather repeat what I have written about many times. The political process, the "give-away game" goes on as usual, and the military conflict goes on as usual. The Center's support for the republics and the militia continues, and the negative aspects like the ones listed above are of a private, not general nature. The desire of the Russian Federation on the tenth round to come to an agreement with Kiev, hence many ostentatious actions and statements (although these actions are erroneous, and the statements are outrageous, as, for example, by Lavrov recently).

        I still consider it ostentatious "the desire of the Russian Federation to reach an agreement with Kiev on the tenth round," otherwise there would not have been "The Center's support for the republics and the militia continues." An agreement can only be made on our terms, they are voiced by the republics (they want to join us or with us). Initially, it is clear that Minsk was not part of Kiev's plans, they imposed it. Since full implementation is Ukraine's sliding towards federalization (on the basis of the exclusive position of Donbass) or its independence (Donbass). Russia is not in a void and must take an appropriate place under the sun. If everything depended on us, then, I think, the Duma would not sit in Kiev (in the sense of thinking). Low bow to the Donbass people, they think not only about their desires but also about Russia.
  7. sergey2017
    sergey2017 5 June 2016 13: 56
    +1
    Again, the Paskuds intensified, Kiev is not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements! Photo class, associated with the T-34 To Berlin!
  8. Lens
    Lens 5 June 2016 14: 02
    +3
    There is no "Minsk". There is a piece of paper with which it is a shame to go to the toilet and there is a reality. You have an artilleryman, and I have a classmate who was called up to return on vacation. So he said bluntly - both sides are shooting. True, he said that they were smacking on the opposite positions. Nominally, after the shelling, whatever the hell comes from the hillock from the headquarters, to find out "who, why and why." In the APU. But, you know, a formality.
    Here, personally, I was alerted today by the mismatch of shelling - usually both sides indicate similar numbers. Well, plus or minus. And today the gap is at times! Ukraine announces 44 shelling. Something failed ...
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 June 2016 14: 05
    +2
    Well, why are they doing this? Nonsense and no purpose.
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 5 June 2016 14: 12
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, why are they doing this? Nonsense and no purpose.

      They remember their grandfathers and great-grandfathers ....

      Here are their things ....
      1. cap
        cap 5 June 2016 14: 22
        +1
        Quote: CORNET
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Well, why are they doing this? Nonsense and no purpose.

        They remember their grandfathers and great-grandfathers ....

        Here are their things ....


        But with what grandfathers ended 1946, the heirs forgot about it.
        execution of traitorsexecution of traitors
        1. masiya
          masiya 5 June 2016 19: 43
          +1
          It ended, but not for everyone, but it was necessary to filter and punish more carefully, and not to show proletarian mercy to the wild enemy-beast ...
        2. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 5 June 2016 19: 57
          +1
          [quote = cap] [quote = CORNET] [quote = Mountain shooter] Well, why do they do this? Nonsense and no purpose. [/ Quote]
          Grandfathers and great-grandfathers [/ quote]
          Everything is right, spiral of time, infection.
          Stalin also blamed Ivan the Terrible "He missed 5 boyar families and wore out Ivan. Stalin did not finish the same thing and exhausted Stalin. Bendera's men were sentenced, then amnesty. But he went out to live, no. He went out to cook and prepared. No, the Chechen spoke correctly." it is necessary to cut "(" Gloomy River ").
      2. masiya
        masiya 5 June 2016 19: 41
        0
        And the grandmothers, apparently, do not forget either, because there were not a few of them among Bandera people ...
    2. Lens
      Lens 5 June 2016 14: 31
      +3
      I do not know. Zhenya (classmate) says provocations are constantly going on. What plan? Again, I don’t know. Therefore, I do not judge ...
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 5 June 2016 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: Lens
        But with what grandfathers ended 1946, the heirs forgot about it.

        Not for everyone to see ... The most cunning are left and their children are very fighting ..!

        You see what flags ..
        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 5 June 2016 14: 57
          +3
          Is the third half-witted man in the bottom row calling for the VKS? lol
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 5 June 2016 16: 12
            +1
            Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
            calls for the videoconferencing?

            No, he seems to be saying: all the will of the VKS. yes
        2. aleks700
          aleks700 6 June 2016 10: 32
          0
          Not for everyone to see ... The most cunning are left and their children are very fighting ..!
          Half probably have Russian surnames.
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 5 June 2016 16: 19
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Nonsense and no purpose.


      Everything is as simple as an orange: MANI, MANI, MANI ... Poroshenko and the gop-company - big MANI from the owner-employer, and the performers - small MANI for "fulfilling the order" (otherwise - for the mines and felling), well, so that at the same time the plebs of the former Ukraine to hang noodles about the nasty and aggressive Russia. I think so... .
  10. Lens
    Lens 5 June 2016 14: 28
    +1
    Well, why did you post this photo? My grandfathers are one from 41 to 45 from foreman to major, four times wounded. Another from 43 to 44 burned four times in a tank. Disabled in xnumx years. His brothers were tortured by the same warriors in the forest. For our family, the OUN people are never heroes. And Zhenya (classmate )’s grandfather, in my opinion, laid so many rails in the railway troops in the war that BAM could not dream of it. But Zhenya was called up and he, as a citizen, left to fulfill his duty. Not from Lviv. Kievite. And for you, apparently, they are forming the opinion that in the ATO specially the heirs of Bandera were collected?
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 5 June 2016 14: 44
      -2
      Quote: Lens
      Well, why did you post this photo?

      which ones ....?
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 June 2016 15: 26
      +3
      Quote: Lens
      Zhenya was called up and he, as a citizen, left to fulfill his duty.

      What is the debt ?! Just don't talk about defending the fatherland. And consider yourself obligated to the ghouls that rule you now, can either ... or a bastard. And our opinion regarding "ATO" was formed not today and not even yesterday. If your classmate is really an honest person and a real citizen, then he will make the right decision, but if not ... Live and die as you know. PS Dear moderators, you really do not lose the coast. The word "" has already been ranked as swearing ... request
      1. Lens
        Lens 5 June 2016 18: 13
        0
        What does debt mean to you? And what right do you have to judge a person whether he is honest or not honest? Did he serve in the army? Did you take the oath? On military records after getting up? It turns out there are such debts. On the sofa, it is certainly calmer. There - the Russian Aerospace Forces bombed Syria ... What fatherland did they defend there? Did you carry out the order? Right. And here simple guys carry out orders. Only the topic for some reason about the shelling in the Donbass, and Cornet right away immediately posted pictures of Bandera. This is where the whole objectivity of the coverage of the situation is manifested.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 5 June 2016 22: 52
          +2
          Unlike you, young man, I am very much aware of both the oath and the debt. I swore allegiance to my homeland and my people, and not to a bunch of ghouls, as in your non-state. And I swore the oath once and for all at that time, sir, when you have not yet reached the embryonic state - this time. Now the next thing about Syria. The Russian Aerospace Forces are not bombing Syria there, as you bent, but bearded bastards, with whom, by the way, your ghouls-leaders, and similar mold, are happy to enlist. And they are bombed exactly THERE, so that later they do not have to do it HERE. [quote = Lens] And then simple guys follow orders. Maybe start a tear? !!! Over the clever guys? !!! I’ve seen it, I’ve gotten around to such "simple" ones ... Okay, sir, go back home - for the first time, as a child, I forgive ...
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 6 June 2016 11: 26
          0
          Quote: Lens
          And here simple guys carry out orders.

          I'll clarify a little: ordinary guys carry out CRIMINAL orders. There is no war, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces are shelling cities in eastern Ukraine. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine are taken and fired at Kiev from 152mm, will it be a crime? Definitely. A war crime. But in Donetsk, why not a crime? This is also a crime. The Hague is crying for such a thing. What about before: "they called in ... duty ... it's not my fault ..." They also called for us. One immediately said that he would not shoot at his own people. protection of objects. Volunteers no one went, and the command does not want to take responsibility. It got to the point that they pulled "on matches", but then there were a couple who coveted on "combat". We volunteered. So everything is there - mercenaries, and they know that they are committing war crimes. Of course, they understand that they will have to answer, so they will delay this moment until the last.
    3. German Titov
      German Titov 5 June 2016 16: 32
      +4
      In reality, somehow according to FIG. Kievite, Lvivite. I live in Donetsk and your "Zhenya" is not eating beer in Obolon. After the loss of friends (very peaceful), I had problems with geography. I doubt that anyone will ask about the "voluntariness of his participation" in the ATO. In the heat of the moment, they will cut through the plywood.
    4. AID.S
      AID.S 5 June 2016 20: 57
      0
      Quote: Lens
      But Zhenya was called up and he, as a citizen, left to fulfill his duty. Not from Lviv. Kievite.

      Shoot peaceful ??? Duty ??? Or enemies? Do not hide behind the grandfathers-heroes. They are not defendants for you and you are not lawyers, but a mitigating circumstance ...
    5. revnagan
      revnagan 6 June 2016 11: 17
      0
      Quote: Lens
      in the ATO specifically the heirs of Bandera were collected?

      Yes, there are only heirs of the Banderovites. In the ATO, there are only volunteers. And those called up guard warehouses and strategic objects, so there is no need to "la-la".
      1. Lens
        Lens 6 June 2016 22: 49
        0
        Where did you get such data from, dear? Didn't they look at everything from the sofa? That is, I have a classmate there, my wife's childhood friend has already returned, there are eight "200" at the city cemetery, but we do not know anything about our friends, but did you immediately consider them as volunteers? Awesome hyperopia! Congratulations!
  11. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 5 June 2016 14: 35
    +2
    And why is Rostov-on-Don also marked green?
  12. volodya
    volodya 5 June 2016 15: 16
    0
    Again, the peepers did not notice anything!
  13. lukke
    lukke 5 June 2016 15: 31
    +2
    shooting here ... and in Syria intensified ... and the Germans are changing something there in their concepts
  14. Kotost
    Kotost 5 June 2016 16: 24
    0
    I hope the answer was adequate laughing
  15. Vertin
    Vertin 5 June 2016 16: 37
    +1
    Europe is silent, doing so it does not see the violation of the Minsk agreements. And they (such as Bandera and the Nazis - they released the film "Hitler Returned", especially Germany, not for nothing) are just playing for time for the security forces to pull themselves up and reprogram the youth to their side and it seems to me that their propaganda works well against the LPR, and they are buzzing well on Ukrainian channels. that the war with Russia is why we are starving - yes, they are fooling their people in order to distract them from the coup d'etat of politics.
  16. masiya
    masiya 5 June 2016 19: 48
    +1
    Judging by the maps, the progress is just excellent, the bitter sediment from the surrender of Slavyansk is remembered, the territory of the defense line has been optimized, now it needs to be defended, the APU offensive is coming and no Minsk agreements are decreed, so the guys have to hold on, anyway the victory will be for the TRUTH and Russia DOES NOT DROP YOU !!!
  17. Berkut24
    Berkut24 5 June 2016 21: 17
    +1
    Wah! I propose to hear comrades Merkel and Hollande. They are here for someone who recently signed up ...
  18. atamankko
    atamankko 5 June 2016 22: 29
    0
    I understand that politicians do not always tell the truth,
    but the policies of the USA, NATO, the EU and the Bandera junta
    hyper lies, and actions are lawlessness.
  19. PKTRL
    PKTRL 6 June 2016 03: 00
    0
    Quote: Makarov
    by the sound of arrival ...


    By the sound .., cotton from the same (ukropsky) checkpoint! This pop - pisyun carbonated so cheerfully comments on your "arrivals" .., like a hero, stands at full height with the correspondents, not bending over "arrivals" are caught ... You .., with your sounds, go where the makar calves are not grazed! fool
  20. PKTRL
    PKTRL 6 June 2016 03: 13
    +1
    Quote: masiya
    It ended, but not for everyone, but it was necessary to filter and punish more carefully, and not to show proletarian mercy to the wild enemy-beast ...

    Unfortunately, Stalin’s decree on the persecution of Bandera had canceled Comrade Khrushchshch .. And now the stumps (rotten) Bandera live in Canada .. Canada is an active sponsor of the ATO ..