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Non-combat losses APU passed for a thousand

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The Ukrainian army continues to incur substantial non-combat losses - the number of servicemen killed in non-combat situations has exceeded one thousand, reports RIA News a message from the chief military prosecutor of the republic, Anatoly Matios.


Non-combat losses APU passed for a thousand


“More than a thousand dead, about three thousand wounded. These are various non-combat situations: suicide, alcoholism, careless handling of fire, non-statutory relations and the like ”,
Matios said on the air on the channel "112 Ukraine".

According to him, “this state of affairs is a direct consequence of the war, post-traumatic syndrome and the lack of public acceptance.”

Earlier, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine published data according to which during the conflict in the Donbas (as of February 2016) more than 2,5 thousand were killed and about 9 thousand military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were injured.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 5 June 2016 11: 42
    +16
    In my opinion, the non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be doubled for the showdown between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 June 2016 11: 47
      +12
      According to him, “this state of affairs is a direct consequence of the war, post-traumatic stress disorder and lack of public acceptance ”.

      Matios is mistaken: the public in Ukraine "accepts" and, judging by the soldiers (and they are from this society), they accept fairly. smile
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 June 2016 12: 00
        +10
        And these are rather underestimated figures, sorry for the simple guys.
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 5 June 2016 12: 16
          +15
          Quote: cniza
          And these are rather underestimated figures, sorry for the simple guys.

          Even the underestimated figures are HORRIBLE! I will not "discover America" ​​if I say that non-combat losses are a kind of indicator of an army's combat effectiveness. Well, it doesn't fit with Poroshenko's words about "the most powerful army in Europe"! It's bad that ordinary 19-year-old boys are the hostages of this lie. But, for some reason, the sons of Poroshenko and other "figures" do not want to "repay the debt" in the "most powerful army."
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 5 June 2016 13: 10
            +17
            Women give birth to new Ukrainians.

            In addition, a real Negro Panu on the plantation is better than a Bandera.
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 5 June 2016 13: 47
              +10
              There is nothing even to bury the warriors of light in ...
              1. Dryuya2
                Dryuya2 5 June 2016 19: 15
                0
                Quote: Thrall
                Alona Shevtsova

                what I understand that Alona is Alena ???
                =======
                old, from May 17 "forecast" from Armen Gasparyan about 404

                link to Armen Gasparyan's channel -
                https://www.youtube.com/user/gasparyantv/videos
                a lot of videos on the history of the twentieth century (the second day I listen / watch winked )
              2. sgazeev
                sgazeev 6 June 2016 05: 55
                0
                Probably paper. belay
            2. Lelek
              Lelek 5 June 2016 17: 00
              +4
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              Women give birth to new Ukrainians.


              Shaw? Black and white stripes? Originally - zebra-like.
            3. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 5 June 2016 18: 05
              +2
              Quote: Nikolay S.
              Women give birth to new Ukrainians.

              In addition, a real Negro Panu on the plantation is better than a Bandera.

              One lady is sad, the other is cheerful. Either the Negro is not very cheerful, or he is the master of the house.
              - Well, where are the people?
              - The people in the field, and we are here.
              Slapsticks, do not twitch, sit upright, the process is underway. Mos.aliks are not allowed. There are already such bookmarks laid. In 20 years, your sons will be belted.
              And it is right. Didn't want to be related to m ... alami, be related to negroes. And they have a rule "who is not a negro, that corpse", go and ride with them. God help you. But not everyone. Here I am so kind.
          2. sgazeev
            sgazeev 6 June 2016 05: 52
            +1
            Quote: Proxima
            Quote: cniza
            And these are rather underestimated figures, sorry for the simple guys.

            Even the underestimated figures are HORRIBLE! I will not "discover America" ​​if I say that non-combat losses are a kind of indicator of an army's combat effectiveness. Well, it doesn't fit with Poroshenko's words about "the most powerful army in Europe"! It's bad that ordinary 19-year-old boys are the hostages of this lie. But, for some reason, the sons of Poroshenko and other "figures" do not want to "repay the debt" in the "most powerful army."

        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 5 June 2016 16: 00
          +9
          These "simple guys" shoot at children and old people ... That's not at all a pity .. But you are sorry .. for being lost ..
        3. Will
          Will 5 June 2016 17: 27
          +2
          Sorry for broken destinies and senseless deaths. And for what?
          For the sake of someone filling their pockets with the "shit" of a good life that others have not lived?
          A full bowl of peace and quiet - that's what I liked about this video.
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      3. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 5 June 2016 12: 34
        +21
        Eh, once again you are convinced that the combination of alcohol and banderomania has side effects, even fatal! Or it turns out to plump or banderi, choose kakl, which is closer to the embroidered shirt! stop
      4. ,
        , 5 June 2016 12: 38
        +4
        Alas and oh, no pity .....
      5. a housewife
        a housewife 6 June 2016 01: 00
        +1
        With such faces ... do not accept there, the result will not be very different.
    2. CORNET
      CORNET 5 June 2016 11: 54
      +15
      Sorry guys .... They envy our guys! We have pride in our country and the Army ... There are queues in the military registration and enlistment offices (and even bribes are given.))) Russia is again becoming a world power! And we do not kneel before anyone and push our line and we will do it, for the sake of our ancestors! There are many problems, but the main thing is ... hi And Glory to Russia, we speak with pride (things are going on with us and this is not an empty phrase!)
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 5 June 2016 12: 28
        +6
        Quote: CORNET
        In the military registration and enlistment offices, the queues (and even give bribes.)))

        And here is Kiev:
        The conscript of 1990 year of birth, a resident of the city of Kiev, decided not to go into the army at all costs. But the military commissar did not share the peace-loving convictions of the conscript, and sent his subordinates to his house, so that they would take the draft-dodger to the military commissariat for medical examination. The potential ATOshnik did not resist, took documents with him, and followed, accompanied by the servicemen, to the military commissariat of the Shevchenkovsky district for a physical examination. Once in place, the young man remembered that it was urgent to visit the closet, because doctors could misunderstand the suddenly wet pants of the conscript. The accompanying citizens agreed to this, and the failed soldier left the premises of the military registration and enlistment office without hesitation through the window of the third floor. As a result, a sane young man who did not want to participate in the fratricidal war received a fracture of the frontal bone, a hematoma of the brain, a fracture of the shoulder of both hands and an abdominal injury. . While the victim is in the hospital, they are going to open a criminal case against him (a preliminary investigation is being conducted). I won’t be surprised if a draftee, after injuries is recognized as fit for military service, “solder” the term and sent to some penal battalion in the anti-terrorist operation zone.
        http://tehnowar.ru/43406-kievlyanin-vyshel-iz-voenkomata-cherez-okno-tretego-eta
        zha.html
      2. gennadi 0806
        gennadi 0806 5 June 2016 12: 31
        +9
        about money, yes, my neighbors really paid to take the guy into the army, but earlier it was the other way around
        1. CORNET
          CORNET 5 June 2016 12: 52
          +9
          Quote: gennadi 0806
          about money, yes, my neighbors really paid to take the guy into the army, but earlier it was the other way around

          It is becoming prestigious again and not only that money is paid! The girls are again "hunting for lieutenant officers" ... The Army is the state's thermometer! It is the Army and the Navy, not just the special services ..
        2. Vasiliy16
          Vasiliy16 5 June 2016 15: 46
          +2
          Quote: gennadi 0806
          about money, yes, my neighbors really paid to take the guy into the army, but earlier it was the other way around

          You ask them why?
          My friend serves in the military registration and enlistment office. And they ask the recruits why they want to serve. Ideological no more than a quarter. The main answer is a desire to work little and get a lot, and these are government agencies (officials, special services, etc.). And those who do not serve are not taken there.
          and according to the article, I will add a remark.
          And why did we classify non-combat losses, if against the background of the Khokhlyatsk ones they are an order of magnitude less? Is it better to discuss a neighbor?
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 6 June 2016 06: 04
            0
            Quote: Vasiliy16
            Quote: gennadi 0806
            about money, yes, my neighbors really paid to take the guy into the army, but earlier it was the other way around

            You ask them why?
            My friend serves in the military registration and enlistment office. And they ask the recruits why they want to serve. Ideological no more than a quarter. The main answer is a desire to work little and get a lot, and these are government agencies (officials, special services, etc.). And those who do not serve are not taken there.
            and according to the article, I will add a remark.
            And why did we classify non-combat losses, if against the background of the Khokhlyatsk ones they are an order of magnitude less? Is it better to discuss a neighbor?

            They were classified before, under Yobtsin the Democrat, everything went wild.
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 5 June 2016 17: 03
        +2
        Quote: CORNET
        This is how Ukrainians are doing ...



        Meanwhile, the "friends" of this former Ukraine ...
        (cry)
      4. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 5 June 2016 22: 10
        +2
        Quote: CORNET
        Sorry guys .... They envy our guys! We have pride in our country and the Army ... There are queues at the military enlistment offices (and even bribes are given.

        and now remember 1994 and beyond. does not resemble anything? as it was with our army and our guys. I already wrote that the ukruina decided to repeat the entire path of the modern history of Russia, although she managed to sleep for 20 years.
      5. gladcu2
        gladcu2 6 June 2016 18: 00
        0
        CORNET

        Why "Glory"? They always said "I serve".
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 5 June 2016 13: 53
      +9
      During the conflict, 2,5 thousand Ukrainian servicemen were killed? Yes, there, according to the official grave numbers, there are more than 7 thousand people who have been "beastly dead" in the cemetery alone. Since 2015, there have been thousands of corpses of ukrosbroyniks that no one needs. And how many have not yet been dug up on the former battlefields near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve? The same cannot be hidden for a long time!
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 June 2016 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, the non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be doubled for the showdown between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard.

      There is practically no showdown. The results of our art are being hanged on the National Guard. wink
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 6 June 2016 09: 07
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Quote: avvg
        In my opinion, the non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be doubled for the showdown between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard.

        There is practically no showdown. The results of our art are being hanged on the National Guard. wink

        Oh how belay Those. for those who hang (people from power), the National Guard is now a greater terrorist than you, together with the "Russian-terrorist troops" combined ..?
    6. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 June 2016 15: 58
      +2
      Vodka "Putinka" is the worst enemy huntyat .. Or do they have vodka "Parashka" ???
      1. Vasiliy16
        Vasiliy16 5 June 2016 16: 02
        +3
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Vodka "Putinka" is the worst enemy huntyat .. Or do they have vodka "Parashka" ???

        The influence of alcohol on the brain is scary and irreversible, even the smallest doses of alcohol provoke changes in the brain that cannot be corrected anymore. And the more a person drinks, the stronger the effect of alcohol on the brain will be. The studies of the brain of alcoholics, conducted after death, each time only confirmed this fact: alcoholic beverages cause a decrease in the volume of the brain, its "drying out", pierce the voids in the organ and provoke microscopic hemorrhages, smooth out the brain convolutions.
        And how does the hohlopyan differ from the Russian drunk?
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 5 June 2016 16: 47
          +3
          You are right, there is no difference .. By the way, I noticed, maybe I’m mistaken, there are fewer drunks on the street (judging by the Kuban) .. Maybe they take their minds?
          Quote: Vasiliy16
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Vodka "Putinka" is the worst enemy huntyat .. Or do they have vodka "Parashka" ???

          The influence of alcohol on the brain is scary and irreversible, even the smallest doses of alcohol provoke changes in the brain that cannot be corrected anymore. And the more a person drinks, the stronger the effect of alcohol on the brain will be. The studies of the brain of alcoholics, conducted after death, each time only confirmed this fact: alcoholic beverages cause a decrease in the volume of the brain, its "drying out", pierce the voids in the organ and provoke microscopic hemorrhages, smooth out the brain convolutions.
          And how does the hohlopyan differ from the Russian drunk?
          1. Vasiliy16
            Vasiliy16 5 June 2016 17: 09
            +3
            Quote: dmi.pris
            By the way, I noticed, maybe I am mistaken, there are fewer drunks on the street (judging by the Kuban)

            it is a fact.
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 6 June 2016 06: 10
              0
              Quote: Vasiliy16
              Quote: dmi.pris
              By the way, I noticed, maybe I am mistaken, there are fewer drunks on the street (judging by the Kuban)

              it is a fact.

              It's more expensive for yourself, jail, fine. So they sit at home and drink under the covers, then they start shooting from the windows at passers-by. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 6 June 2016 09: 10
              0
              Quote: Vasiliy16
              Quote: dmi.pris
              By the way, I noticed, maybe I am mistaken, there are fewer drunks on the street (judging by the Kuban)

              it is a fact.

              Irkutsk: On the streets, they don't drink at all, even with beer, you won't find it. There are almost no drunks - a rarity. If only absolutely scourges. Accustomed to the new adm. code.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 6 June 2016 18: 05
          +2
          vasiliy16

          Drinking water is also harmful. All who drank the water died.

          Respected Russian scientist D.I. Mendelev.

          "Everything is poison. The dose is important."
  2. Lester7777
    Lester7777 5 June 2016 11: 42
    +9
    -And the separatists ?!
    -And we have not yet reached them ...
  3. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 5 June 2016 11: 47
    +4
    Careless handling of fire "- fires cannot be kindled ?! laughing
    1. ROD VDVshny
      ROD VDVshny 5 June 2016 13: 52
      0
      Quote: Arctidian
      Careless handling of fire "- fires cannot be kindled ?! laughing

      burning tents heated by stoves
    2. bocsman
      bocsman 5 June 2016 15: 01
      +5
      Quote: Arctidian
      Careless handling of fire "- fires cannot be kindled ?! laughing


      They smoke on barrels of gunpowder!
      In my opinion, all of Ukraine since 2014 has been sitting on a barrel of gunpowder and nervously smokes!
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 6 June 2016 09: 13
      0
      Quote: Arctidian
      Careless handling of fire "- fires cannot be kindled ?! laughing

      When there is a bottle in one hand, it doesn't really matter that in the other, matches, a pistol, a machine gun, or one step to a box with grenades. The fat is in the fire. This is for sure ...
  4. Pitot
    Pitot 5 June 2016 11: 48
    +2
    Well. They devour themselves, evil loves victims ...
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 June 2016 11: 48
    +5
    Warriors, hr.nova!
    Only with children and women can they fight, and shoot from afar. The retribution will be much tougher than "non-combat"! angry
  6. pvv113
    pvv113 5 June 2016 11: 48
    +7
    It is likely that the data on non-combat losses is significantly underestimated hi
  7. DV69
    DV69 5 June 2016 11: 49
    +4
    And what did they (the Ukrainians) want? There is no discipline in the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a class, the natsbats fire at military units with impunity, but it can go on for a long time. Therefore, I believe that the number of non-combat losses may be underestimated.
  8. Grigory Z.
    Grigory Z. 5 June 2016 11: 56
    +10
    Another year of such a war and the army will not remain at all. But in general, it’s simply that military losses are recorded in non-military ones, so that the family allowance is not paid.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 June 2016 16: 50
      +2
      Another year of such a war, and there will be more widows and orphans in the Donbass .. After all, this drunkard shoots at the civilian population .. It is cardinal to decide ..
      Quote: Grigory Z.
      Another year of such a war and the army will not remain at all. But in general, it’s simply that military losses are recorded in non-military ones, so that the family allowance is not paid.
  9. Altona
    Altona 5 June 2016 11: 57
    +5
    Wow, for a year of "downtime" a whole regiment of killed and three regiments crippled. They drove the guys into the fields, they decompose there morally and physically, and even with weapons and cartridges.
    1. krops777
      krops777 5 June 2016 12: 11
      +5
      Wow, for a year of "downtime" a whole regiment of killed and three regiments crippled. They drove the guys into the fields, they decompose there morally and physically, and even with weapons and cartridges.


      Why be surprised if ukroarmiya has such a ruling elite.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 5 June 2016 17: 08
        +1
        A year ago, there was the same article based on the results of the Ukroarmiya, so recognized non-combat losses more !!! Otsyudova maral! Tails chop, learn to hide !!!
  10. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 5 June 2016 12: 00
    +8
    In tsarist Russia, from the recruits of the Little Russian provinces, they tried to form light cavalry regiments Elisavetgradsky, Alexandria, Izyumsky, Mariupol and so on hussar regiments. on the spot acts more demoralizing than on the Great Russian.
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 5 June 2016 22: 15
      +1
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      For a Little Russian, a long sitting still

      the infantry units did not sit still, but stood STANDING under the aimed fire of the enemy (remember the linear tactics), i.e. Great Russians did not run. accordingly the MeneRussians could not stand it.
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 5 June 2016 12: 03
    +7
    Quote: pvv113
    It is likely that the data on non-combat losses is significantly underestimated hi
    One can agree, with all this, Kiev has successfully attributed to non-combat part of the casualties on the contact line so as not to pay compensation and pensions.
  12. moskowit
    moskowit 5 June 2016 12: 03
    +5
    There is nothing worse than an undisciplined army. Unpredictable situations are possible. Today the existing economic and political formation on the territory of the lands of the former Ukrainian SSR is not a power, but there is no power, there is no army either. The army is a replica of society. In essence, the current Ukrainian "army" is a conglomerate of groups of people with varying degrees of weapons. And you can expect anything from an uncontrollable armed crowd. The army elite is mired in corruption and theft. If there were decent people, patriots of their country, they would have dared long ago, to the devil, the gang that was "feeding"!
  13. Monos
    Monos 5 June 2016 12: 08
    +11
    God left Ukraine.

  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 June 2016 12: 10
    +9
    Either they underestimated the combat losses, or they spend them as "not combat". And then some kind of phantasmagoria turns out. They have troops around Donbass - 80 thousand, no more, and they managed to lose 5% (counting the wounded) in "non-combat"? Is it that they have a military conflict of medium intensity going on there, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    Are the Nazis counted in these losses? Or is it on a separate sheet? Oh, dashingly, too much! Yes, they cannot be given weapons at all. They will destroy themselves, but they will blame Russia. Maydauns, B!
  15. volodya
    volodya 5 June 2016 12: 32
    +1
    Why do they need war? Soon they will destroy themselves! What kind of power is such an army!
  16. Evil 55
    Evil 55 5 June 2016 12: 40
    +4
    Why do they need combat losses, when the "zrada" is precisely to send non-combat "200s" home, hiding behind the repulse of the powerful offensives of the tank armada of Russia ... The army of UKRALINA will devour itself, sell and destroy itself ...
  17. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 5 June 2016 12: 41
    +1
    What can you say here? Ukraine in all its "glory".
    The Ukrainian army suffers "impressive" non-combat losses. The chief military prosecutor of the country Anatoly Matios said this in an interview with the 112 Ukraine television channel. According to him, the number of people killed in non-combat situations has exceeded one thousand people, about three thousand are considered to be wounded. Matios explained that military personnel are killed in various situations: as a result of suicide, from alcohol, careless handling of weapons, hazing, and much more. At the same time, he did not specify for what period these non-combat losses were calculated. The military prosecutor is sure that Ukrainian society is not only painful in the army, but in general, because the price of human life against the background of economic shocks leads to the leveling of universal values."In the army, there were, are and always will be hazing, but it is impossible to put a military prosecutor in every platoon and company," - summed up Matios.
    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201606042231-96jd.htm
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 5 June 2016 22: 19
      +2
      Quote: LÄRZ
      it is impossible to put a military prosecutor in every platoon and company

      I wonder what is the platoon, company commander, and foreman doing in the end? no. I remember my service in troubled times. our officers also practically did not appear in the disposition. the foreman was engaged in "his own" business of "shrinking and crumbling property" with other ensigns. but he was a political officer. no - REPLAY! this comrade spent the night in the barracks more often than at home.
  18. Evgen999
    Evgen999 5 June 2016 12: 49
    +3
    Such degradation is not surprising, considering that there is a huge number of conscripts and volunteers. In Ukraine, there is almost no regular army, or rather, it is in the minority there, and this is the biggest mistake. As a result, both non-combat losses and casualties among civilians, people morally unprepared, quickly break down. And ideologically charged volunteers, who have been instilled with hatred of the enemy, will provide cases of looting and violence against civilians.
  19. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 5 June 2016 13: 16
    +3
    soap and ropes are not enough for them.
  20. Vertin
    Vertin 5 June 2016 13: 30
    +4
    Yeah, the children of billionaires are hiding under dad's shirt. And the dead of their peers will be later, when they need it, they will be watered with mud. Yes, the mothers of the dead will not be paid a military pension. Stalin and Marx once told us that if a capitalist (exploiter, labor force for his own profit in monetary form) feels a 300-fold profit, then he will kill his own mother. So Poroshenko betrayed the result and sold Ukraine. Why did indifferent people (although there are many of them) did not go with clubs like these Bandera supporters against Bandera, because they don’t need it, when the Bandera supporters came late, they shoot the unfaithful young guys, and hide behind accidents - it seems to me that in the army The riot and the Bandera in this way extinguish them with blood, intoxication with alcohol and possibly add drugs to food. Everything is the same in the world, there are no good Bosses in every state, everyone is interested in personal gain, plus a dictatorship.
  21. cap
    cap 5 June 2016 13: 57
    +2
    The Ukrainian army continues to suffer significant non-combat losses - the number of servicemen who died in non-combat situations has exceeded a thousand, reports RIA Novosti the message of the chief military prosecutor of the republic, Anatoly Matios.
  22. Kibl
    Kibl 5 June 2016 14: 17
    +2
    By the way, these "soldiers" are not at all a pity. They knew where they would end up, they knew why. Murderers and marauders! That's why they thump and prick!
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 5 June 2016 15: 15
    +1
    APU losses in ATO by Military Balance
    The world's most authoritative military analytical agency, the International Institute for Strategic Studies http://www.iiss.org/, has released the Military Balance report for 2016 http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5 177025, which in comparison with the report for 2013 http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4 679015 allow to estimate the losses of the Armed Forces during the active part of the ATO at the level of irrecoverable losses of 50% of land equipment, taking into account what was repaired after losses officially announced by Petro Poroshenko in the amount of 60%. Also, these reports allow us to estimate the losses in the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the ATO. The equipment, which received such serious damage that it cannot be repaired, contained about 29.700 soldiers, who were most likely injured at best.
    1. Altona
      Altona 5 June 2016 16: 21
      +2
      The losses of the beaters are simply huge. A couple more big battles and the APU will have to remember hiking trips. L / s delivery vehicles are practically destroyed.
  24. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 June 2016 15: 29
    +1
    Don't feel sorry for them, because they don't feel sorry for anyone. And quantity will sooner or later turn into quality, maybe they will start to think about what we are doing?
  25. atamankko
    atamankko 5 June 2016 22: 58
    0
    They will not destroy themselves, the Maidan jumpers need help in this.
  26. Jamuqa
    Jamuqa 6 June 2016 10: 25
    0
    I don't understand this schadenfreude, someday all this will end, and broken destinies will remain. We will still live with them, and the new authorities of Ukraine and us will have to solve the problems of these "veterans".