The SBU said the suppression of attempts to export the Kharkov Tractor Plant in the Russian Federation

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The SBU announced the suppression of the attempt by the “management of the Russian industrial group” to export equipment of the Kharkov Tractor Plant to the Russian Federation, reports Rambler News Service with reference to the press service of the Ukrainian department.

The SBU said the suppression of attempts to export the Kharkov Tractor Plant in the Russian Federation


According to the Security Service of Ukraine, “KTZ General Director Andrei Koval, appointed to this position in March 2016 of the year, prepared the equipment for the casting shops for dismantling for export to Russia at the direction of the Russian owners of KTZ.

It is noted that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine planned to place an order at the plant.

“After the intervention of the Security Council of Ukraine, the property and accounts of the plant were seized, thereby preventing the loss of production equipment and unique design documentation, as well as preventing the dismissal of nearly a thousand skilled employees of the enterprise”
says release.

Koval disappeared, and was declared wanted for attempted sabotage.

According to the publication, at the end of April, KhTW was bought by Ukrainian entrepreneur Alexander Yaroslavsky - one of the hundred richest people in Ukraine, whose wealth is estimated at $ 721 million.

With 2004, the plant was listed in the list of “strategic facilities”. In March of last year, the head of the Ukrainian government, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, removed him from this list.
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  1. -25
    5 June 2016 08: 38
    One Kharkov tractor was taken out in 1941 along with specialists. It turned out ATZ. Now he left miserable ruins, completely stolen. Maybe at least Kharkiv will save their.
    1. +45
      5 June 2016 08: 48
      The people WE WILL ALWAYS BE GUILTY AT THEM, in everything. Envy and selfishness.
      1. +33
        5 June 2016 09: 09
        Already, factories are fleeing from Ukraine laughing
        1. +16
          5 June 2016 09: 44
          Quote: Thrall
          Already, factories are fleeing from Ukraine laughing

          And is the foundation of the plant also going on the road? belay This is already some kind of horror turns out.
          I am interested in how it is possible to secretly "take out" a plant, the dismantling of equipment of which requires at least several months, hundreds of builders, dismantlers, and hundreds of echelons for the removal of equipment. This is not to mention traffic schedules, customs ... Finance and documentation are elementary, but PLANT ...
          1. jjj
            +15
            5 June 2016 09: 53
            Some looters wanted to cash in, and others were ahead of them. I had to connect the SBU. Well, how can you do without Russia, there’s not enough iron
            1. avt
              +15
              5 June 2016 10: 16
              Quote: jjj
              Some looters wanted to cash in, and others were ahead of them.

              Well, something like that - yes. Infa has long been about the fact that he was stopped, now they are dismantling. Naturally, they sell the whole thing they need, and the lads decided to squeeze out the shares, having learned that the deal took place. They will agree and all one will be taken out, the rest will be cut into scrap metal. Here just now on “Made by Us” in the comments one comrade posted in comparison the pictures of the Lviv bus BEFORE the races and the current state - an impressive picture. Well, even pipes and cables were pulled out of the floor - that's all they did with the plant as in Donbas without bombing and murder civilians. There are only undamaged walls. By the way, the Kharkiv Aviation Station also stands and the fate will be exactly the same for the Antonov Design Bureau, as for Yuzhmash. ”Two years ago, I wrote, as soon as the Benin guys burst into Yuzhmash "and began to plunder the archive, and repeated afterwards for ykrov, dismantle all high-tech enterprises that create a final product with a high degree of added value for scrap. Well, they have heard and are doing it. laughing All this is quite predictable and expected, well, you don’t need to be some kind of super analyst .... you need to be a stubborn banderlog to mutter that this will never happen, and then, when it happens, be crucian and stupidly drive - and rightly, this is democracy, in fact, economic growth .... although the latter is perhaps already the mental level of Yakhno and Kovtun. bully
              1. +4
                5 June 2016 11: 57
                Lviv bus TO horse racing


                I do not know what could have changed there over the past 2 years. This plant died back in the early 90s. He died completely. From the 10000th plant, there was only the territory and about 50 personnel, who also complained about non-payment of salaries for about 5 years.
                1. +9
                  5 June 2016 13: 41
                  And all Putin, if not for him, then in Ukraine dummies themselves would have flown into their mouths. Eh Vladimir Vladimirovich, you killed the golden dream of a real Ukrainian ....
              2. +2
                5 June 2016 12: 09
                So that's great. Let their plants be liquidated. At the same HTZ were going to repair equipment for the VSU. Well, motalygs were also developed and made there in due time. Thu vsu without MT forehead and technology on its basis let it cost. hi
                1. +3
                  5 June 2016 13: 19
                  Quote: g1v2
                  Let their plants be liquidated

                  The trouble is different, their entrepreneurs, the same Kolomoisky here, in the same way, destroyed several enterprises ...
              3. +4
                5 June 2016 13: 18
                Quote: avt
                pictures of Lviv bus

                Both LAZ and KhTZ were bought by our entrepreneurs, so in this way the velikoukry "take revenge" on the "damned m. Chips".
                And for our entrepreneurs, another example is that money must be invested in our own economy.
                1. +1
                  5 June 2016 15: 27
                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: avt
                  pictures of Lviv bus

                  Both LAZ and KhTZ were bought by our entrepreneurs, so in this way the velikoukry "take revenge" on the "damned m. Chips".
                  And for our entrepreneurs, another example is that money must be invested in our own economy.

                  Many enterprises that Russian businessmen bought at one time, are now exporting, in my city the Motor Plant part, last year they exported some equipment to Russia, but only those machines that were installed after the plant was acquired
              4. +1
                5 June 2016 16: 10
                The cat tried on one gyrus reduced Kovtun's brain, left to remove the scalp. lol
          2. +23
            5 June 2016 10: 00
            Ask Chubais and HSE. They also launched hundreds of factories in Russia.
          3. WKS
            +2
            5 June 2016 11: 02
            Quote: Eragon
            Here's what I'm interested in: how you can secretly "take out" a plant, the dismantling of equipment of which requires at least several months, ...

            In Ukropia there is no impossible, it is like a field of miracles in the country of fools.
          4. +4
            5 June 2016 12: 00
            Quote: Eragon
            I am interested in how it is possible to secretly "take out" a plant, the dismantling of equipment of which requires at least several months, hundreds of builders, dismantlers, and hundreds of echelons for the removal of equipment. This is not to mention traffic schedules, customs ... Finance and documentation are elementary, but PLANT ...

            -----------------------
            If they were in Europe or the USA, then the SBU itself would have unscrewed the nuts from the foundations. laughing
          5. +2
            5 June 2016 12: 03
            Words you need to know, treasured! laughing Earth goodbye! Good luck!
          6. +2
            5 June 2016 15: 08
            Quote: Eragon
            how you can stealthily "take out" the plant

            This is another stupidity to cover up the theft of the plant by the Ukrainians themselves. It is evident that they did not share who the first to steal the plant.
          7. +3
            5 June 2016 15: 13
            Quote: Eragon
            Here's what I'm interested in: how you can stealthily "take out" the plant

            How, how ... "under cover of night, in sealed wagons."
          8. +2
            5 June 2016 19: 32
            the meaning of the trash to dismantle, everything is old there like a mammoth .... another peremoga.
            Attacks are the main value of people, but they have long fallen like
    2. +14
      5 June 2016 09: 20
      What is the matter with you? Yes, and on the outskirts, and we have in the power of thieves and crooks, or rather organized crime groups. But it doesn’t last forever, although it’s time for all of us and Ukrainians to lift their asses off the sofas for beneficial changes.
    3. +4
      5 June 2016 09: 26
      It seems minusculers to please Poroshenko have become obvious hohlofobami. Comrades, Ukrainians in trouble, under the yoke of the Nazi junta. Why are you happy? The junta is not eternal. And there are our brothers.
      1. +19
        5 June 2016 09: 37
        A pig is not a brother to man, but only cattle.
        Look at your (NOT mine!) Brothers in other countries where they are definitely not stupefied by propaganda: they yell, howl, want to kill all Russians, including you, your family, even threaten Russian children in an orphanage in Canada! And there are thousands of such examples!
        If these are your brothers, then I know who you are. You are not my brother to me. And Russia is not your country.
        1. 0
          5 June 2016 11: 40
          Vladimir! From the heart +++++!
      2. +7
        5 June 2016 09: 40
        It seems that the minus people in favor of Poroshenko became obvious hohlofoby ,,
        First you ask what happens with the plants. There is not evacuation, but disposal.
        1. +14
          5 June 2016 10: 06
          Quote: kotvov
          First you ask what happens with the plants. There is not evacuation, but disposal.


          Come to Biysk, we will take a tour of the former Biysk chemical plant - an enterprise that in Soviet times produced solid rocket propellants, including the first Topol and all P-39s. In 2000, a controlling stake was bought up by Moscow comers, then stupidly cut into scrap metal. At that time, the plant was the newest in Russia, the newest site was built from 1984 to 1987, computers (IBM 386) were already on the control of technological processes. So I fully support NordUral ...
          1. +2
            5 June 2016 19: 25
            Moscow is not Russia.
            Muscovites are a paradox ...
            They are not loved even in Moscow!
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      3. +12
        5 June 2016 09: 58
        1) Ukrainians are not in trouble. "Ukrainians" are the trouble.
        2) They staged the Nazi junta on the Maidan, they went to this long and hard. They dumped under the joyful hooting of Yanukovych and overwhelmingly elected Poroshenko. To be honest - they wanted it with all the fibers of the soul.
        3) Have you tried to conduct a survey, how many Ukrainians consider us brothers? And we, compassionate, are crammed into relatives. Let those who are brothers let him come to Russia, work, give birth to children, help raise the Far East, etc.
        Each country has its own life cycle. Do not resist nature - let "Ukrainians" realize themselves to the end. So that later no one else would have such thoughts in their heads.
      4. +12
        5 June 2016 11: 39
        I repeat once again: they are not our brothers!
        1. -1
          6 June 2016 00: 39
          Did you read the words well? He says that these horses do not dare to be called Ukrainians. Because Ukrainians are still Russian. It is necessary to separate one from the other. Of course, no one calls these maydanut brothers.
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    4. +4
      5 June 2016 09: 27
      Well, at least nobody will take them to Verkhovna RADU ...
      1. +8
        5 June 2016 09: 35
        What are you? A whole plant? At night? On "KAMAZ" or "Gazelles"? Do not read Ukrainian newspapers either before bedtime or at all.
      2. +2
        5 June 2016 12: 13
        you might think we have in the GD some fluffies
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    6. +2
      5 June 2016 09: 43
      Don’t be afraid, the OTZ plant is also plundered from us, it’s broken up, the land has been sold to Muscovites and right now they are building an elite residential complex in its place, Beauty !!!
      1. +1
        5 June 2016 16: 20
        Quote: Denker
        Don’t be afraid, the OTZ plant is also plundered from us, it’s broken up, the land has been sold to Muscovites and right now they are building an elite residential complex in its place, Beauty !!!


        Alisher Usmanov was born on September 9, 1953 in the city of Chust in the Namangan Region of the Uzbek USSR. The eldest son in a family of four [8]. Higher education. Alisher Usmanov’s father, Burkhan Usmanov, was a prosecutor in Tashkent [8]. Victor Feliksovich was born and raised in Drogobych, his father was Vekselberg Feliks Solomonovich, a Jew by nationality, his mother was Elena Morozova, Russian [5]. He studied at Drogobych Secondary School No. 3 (at that time it was Secondary School No. 3), graduated in 1974 Vagit Alekperov was born on September 1, 1950 in the village of Stepan Razin (Baku, Azerbaijan SSR) Andrei Igorevich Melnichenko (born March 8, 1972, Gomel , Byelorussian SSR, USSR) Continue? Moskvich, is a resident of the city born here.
        1. -1
          6 June 2016 00: 46
          I wonder how. For example, a man was born in Leningrad, he moved to Moscow. He is not a Muscovite because he was not born in Moscow. He is not a Leningrader, because he does not live there, and not even a Petersburger. Who is he?
    7. +1
      5 June 2016 10: 45
      And according to your comment, HTZ will remain from him-HTZ .... And there are enough tractor factories in Russia, it’s not in vain that we have become importers of tractors in the last two years, especially the Indians willingly take them .... and we are gradually leaving , even from the previously popular, but now = obsolete = tractor = Belarus = .......
      1. +2
        5 June 2016 11: 27
        Quote: Siberian
        .... and gradually we are leaving, even from the previously popular, but now = obsolete = tractor = Belarus = .....



        Hmm ... In our city, the entire communal system uses brand new (!!!) Belarusian wheeled tractors ... Why am I even a little surprised myself ... Vladimirsky or others - and it’s not visible ...
        1. 0
          5 June 2016 13: 03
          The same thing, they make good tractors - and they really can’t see ours
    8. +3
      5 June 2016 11: 01
      Well, they took it out, then they built the new one, much better than it was. He now worked there on a backlog created back in the USSR. This plant was built by all the people of the USSR, when Bandera still boasted of caches
    9. +5
      5 June 2016 12: 16
      With advice on the HTZ, more than fifty thousand people worked! Now two and a half thousand! So who ruined the plant?
    10. +1
      6 June 2016 18: 16
      Yeah, but from the STZ (it seems) part, we got ChTZ (Chetra), which is still swaying afloat.
  2. +8
    5 June 2016 08: 38
    Come on, they themselves sell everything and then they bring down Russia!
    1. +7
      5 June 2016 09: 05
      Quote: volodya
      Come on, they themselves sell everything and then they bring down Russia!

      Eh broke. It was necessary to take out at night. The lads from the vodka are breathing, the board in the fence ....
      1. +18
        5 June 2016 09: 08
        These clowns at least have a close idea of ​​what it is to take out a FACTORY? How many echelons will be required for this, and most importantly, why?
        1. +9
          5 June 2016 09: 24
          The main thing is to buy, and you can sag in parts on the spot. If in Russia you need a tractor, then you need to build it again, and not disassemble and assemble from the old trash.
        2. +2
          5 June 2016 09: 56
          Quote: Pereira
          These clowns at least have a close idea of ​​what it is to take out a FACTORY? How many echelons will be required for this, and most importantly, why?

          Well, in the 41st they were exported ..... In Ukraine, consider the same time now ... They are destroying the entire industry, trying to save it, at least something! (I know a couple were taken out, with equipment and personnel to Russia)
          1. +1
            5 June 2016 10: 17
            Here I am about that. The 41 year, the war, mass evacuation is one thing, and we compare it with the commerce of the 21 century. This is the first.
            Secondly, does this plant need Russia? Is there super modern equipment? Extra competitor.
            1. +1
              5 June 2016 10: 33
              Quote: Pereira
              Secondly, does this plant need Russia? Is there super modern equipment? Extra competitor.

              He can repair tanks ... Firstly, secondly, specialists who can do amazing things with this "old" equipment, thirdly, this is politics, if Kiev does not need a plant, we will take over ... We need jobs! tanks "robots" do not make them, they are made by people (experts and fans of their craft) Unique presses, machines, etc. there clearly are .. that's all! hi
              1. +1
                5 June 2016 10: 46
                In this case, documentation and people are needed. And leave the old machines to banderlogs. But not the other way around.
                1. +2
                  5 June 2016 11: 22
                  Quote: Pereira
                  In this case, documentation and people are needed. And leave the old machines to banderlogs. But not the other way around.

                  Documentation is no longer needed ... But the machines (old) with experts in addition, this is a garnished business .... (I think they requested them from Ukraine to Russia ..) CNC is one thing ... But when they create something new there, human hands and brains are needed and a simple lathe, etc. (which will not let you down and will create what you need for the product, the human eye - the diamond has not yet come out of the series and is very appreciated in the world ...))) And then the "series and robots" will go ... hi
                  Anecdote to the theme of the old during the Soviet era:
                  Uri, you handed us the documentation of the latest fighter of the Soviets, but after assembly it turned out some kind of steam locomotive ...
                  Uri, you tricked us ..?
                  Uri (telegraphs): The documentation is genuine, you gentlemen at the bottom of the documentation did not read the footnote in small text "After assembly, finalize with a file .."
                  End of communication! ... bully
  3. +9
    5 June 2016 08: 40
    Of course in the Russian Federation, but where else. Do they believe it themselves? The border with the machines? Raider capture was.
  4. +4
    5 June 2016 08: 41
    Yeah, again the Russians. Or maybe Senya privatized all the same? Ah, crests?
  5. +2
    5 June 2016 08: 42
    But for kaklov, the scope is too much to poke. Yes, and there are a number of examples: Dark Egg with 1 ml. dollars, Potroshenko, a bloody shepherd and then the whole top of the Bandera junta.
  6. +4
    5 June 2016 08: 48
    The remnants of the last unsold metal, and it’s a pity to throw out and talk about
  7. +5
    5 June 2016 08: 48
    I don’t understand what could have been taken out there at all? And How? Ovens, flasks? This equipment of the 60s, such at any large plant in Russia heaps. It is strange that they did not accuse this Koval of stealing a chair. Director ....
  8. +12
    5 June 2016 08: 49
    And there was still something to take? I was especially amused by the "unique design documentation"!
    1. +4
      5 June 2016 09: 29
      Yeah - a copy of those projects "Azovets", "Tirex" and "Svidomo Letak".
    2. +4
      5 June 2016 09: 56
      Quote: pas682010
      And there was still something to take? I was especially amused by the "unique design documentation"!

      Especially for the SMD-60 diesel engine. That's really a misfortune, especially the fuel one. As soon as you put the YaMZ-236 diesel engine, the KhTZ-150 becomes a tractor, without headaches, with a pump, a turbine, and smoke from the exhaust.
  9. +5
    5 June 2016 08: 51
    Tyuyuyu! And we, nevertheless, need it ???
  10. 0
    5 June 2016 08: 51
    With 2004, the plant was listed in the list of “strategic facilities”. In March of last year, the head of the Ukrainian government, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, removed him from this list.

    Nevertheless, I believe that this is not the case when one big official decides the fate of “strategically important objects” (even if it is citizen Yaytsenyuk lol ).
    After all, we also have strategic facilities ... Therefore, it will be better for business if such issues are decided collectively, for example, in the Security Council.
    1. +3
      5 June 2016 09: 22
      We already have nothing, now they have everything, the thieves.
  11. +2
    5 June 2016 09: 05
    They themselves have stolen, and now they are thinking of whom to blame. The classic scheme.
    1. +1
      5 June 2016 09: 32
      No, well, how are we? In the 90s, cunning citizens seized state-owned enterprises and gas / oil wells and today they are respected people "and" successful businessmen "and even take part in governing the state.
      If only we could steal from them, and then do the same to this day ...
      It’s sad just that in Krajina and we have one garbage - the oligarchs ...
      Only Putin is the one that hopes for the future in us.
      1. +2
        5 June 2016 09: 44
        Only Putin is the one that hope for the future is warming in us. ,,
        anyone interested, look for the article ,, Mikhail Khazin. The system of "checks and balances" of Putin is beginning to change before our eyes,
  12. +8
    5 June 2016 09: 06
    This raider seizure simply squeezed the plant from Russian shareholders.
    1. +2
      5 June 2016 09: 22
      Short and clear and straight to the point.
  13. +1
    5 June 2016 09: 23
    The authorities of Ukraine seem to have an inferiority complex. For smart people, this leads to self-improvement, and for people who are stupid and evil, it leads to inhibition of development, and in the end, to absurd actions that lead to self-destruction. It was a pity there was a good factory, the brainchild of all the peoples of the USSR, and now, with the participation of pseudo-Ukrainians, only ruins will remain ...
  14. +1
    5 June 2016 09: 29
    But the article says - Andrey Yaroslavsky bought the plant? In the end of April. Dill entrepreneur. Questions to the owner, no?
  15. +1
    5 June 2016 09: 30
    If this was an indication of the rightful owners, then everything is legal and preventing it is a violation of the law, although what I mean, it's Ukraine. From the point of view of ordinary Ukrainians, this may and may not seem patriotic, but from the point of view of the business owner, this is a concern for the safety of their assets and that they bring revenue (for sure, the technological chain has already suffered and the supply of refineries from somewhere flies a penny).
    1. 0
      5 June 2016 11: 06
      Quote: Nix1986
      If this was an indication of the rightful owners, then everything is legal and preventing it is a violation of the law


      Dear Nikita, are you naive or "kidding" about the existence of laws in the former Ukraine and their implementation by local "leaders"? On the territory of 404, the LAW has long been renamed into CONCEPT (who has a Colt, he is ruled by "law", and who has "green", he has this former country).
  16. +3
    5 June 2016 09: 34
    Quote: Seraphimamur
    This raider seizure simply squeezed the plant from Russian shareholders.

    Yes, this is not a huhry-muhry! The heroic SBU threw off such a spirits! I think that the FSB is shallow and, if anything, will miss the export of the Lipetsk confectionery factory "Roshen" to Ukraine))))))
  17. +2
    5 June 2016 09: 40
    Shcha they’ll hand over everything and say, they’ve taken it to the RF anyway)))
  18. +1
    5 June 2016 09: 45
    Those. Does the owner no longer have the right to dispose of his property?
    It is clear that there is a shortage of components in Ukraine, there is no market, and it is unprofitable to sell duties to Russia. And who will pay now, even offshore, if the goods are in Ukraine ?! ))) It is more profitable to disassemble and transport to Russia, where everything is there for normal operation: a sales market, components.
    But a gang of some citizens decided that Nizya was all.
    This is the whole essence of Ukrainians: not mine, I won’t eat, so I bite!
  19. +1
    5 June 2016 09: 46
    Quote: siberalt
    One Kharkov tractor was taken out in 1941 along with specialists. It turned out ATZ. Now he left miserable ruins, completely stolen. Maybe at least Kharkiv will save their.

    I completely agree. For those who are minus Sibiralta I can post a photo of the Altai Tractor Plant, more precisely, what is left of it ...
    PS: The Governor of the Altai Territory reported to the President of Russia that ATZ is on "conservation" ...
  20. +2
    5 June 2016 09: 47
    Yes, this HTZ can be opened even with us, the main thing is that everything is already there. Light, water. gas, railway and auto roads. And most importantly - people, and educated. In place of the former tractor trailer factory. The territory is huge, next to housing are 5-9 floors, the Ural River, a lot of cottages. Pay people and they will turn your mountains.
    1. +2
      5 June 2016 09: 52
      And what did not stop YOUR ACTING Plant (ATZ) from supporting? He was simply plundered and dismantled by brick.
      Plant management set on fire. It burned out. Sold for next to nothing ...
      The tool shop is an abandoned building, sold to the owner of the Maria-Ra retail chain as well as an empty workshop next door, now there is a shopping center ...

      I can post a photo of how the plant management was burning, I watched a lot of people, even a fire train was driven ...
  21. +2
    5 June 2016 09: 50
    trained to dismantle the equipment foundries

    Debiloids writing such articles did not even stand next to such equipment ... what did they want to take out there, blast furnaces, convectors? "DB" according to Lavrov ...
  22. +2
    5 June 2016 09: 56
    Another nonsense stealing Bandera junta, disgusting.
  23. +2
    5 June 2016 10: 09
    I’ll tell you more, not only the Russians, through Putin’s agents are transporting strategic equipment from the Ruins. In the fall of 2013. , just on the eve of MAIDAN, the Uzbek agents of Putin from Lugansk from the factory to them. Lenin !! stole two foundry machines 711V10 for 30t. each 93 year of release. Secretly transported to Tashkent, installed, launched and pour strategic cauldrons from AL.Oh and we were tormented by them, but launched, the specialists are all russians.
    1. +2
      5 June 2016 10: 19
      Quote: andrewkor
      and pour strategic cauldrons from AL

      Specially for pilaf laughing ?
      1. 0
        5 June 2016 22: 43
        Well, then we have rice with meat from the pan - pilaf. And for the Uzbek, a lot of things are needed for pilaf. And cauldron, the condition is irreplaceable.
  24. +2
    5 June 2016 10: 10
    another nonsense why Russia needs obsolete equipment and those 50-year-old documentation. At the moment, tractors and other agricultural equipment are produced in Russia, which are technologically more advanced than Ukrainian
    1. +1
      5 June 2016 10: 20
      Something on the fields of the Altai Territory is increasingly visible to foreign John Dirov, but ours (K-700, T-4, MTZ-80, MTZ-82) are less and less ...
    2. 0
      6 June 2016 07: 07
      Quote: Sergei Mauser
      Why Russia needs obsolete equipment


      Well, during the war, the Mauser was also far from a new weapon, but it was nevertheless used. Or am I wrong? hi
  25. +1
    5 June 2016 10: 17
    The SBU said the suppression of attempts to export the Kharkov Tractor Plant in the Russian Federation Wow, the whole plant almost stole in the country of fools laughing

    Recalled the 90s.
  26. +5
    5 June 2016 10: 32
    Maybe a little off topic, but it hurts a little for the living, please forgive. In Rubtsovsk, of all the factories that worked under the Soviet Union, there was only one - Rubtsovsk Machine-Building Plant (RMZ), which previously produced BPM and all-terrain vehicles GTT.
    1. Altayselmash plant (agricultural engineering - plows, seeders, harrows, etc.) - closed and looted.
    2. The Tractor Electrical Equipment Plant (generators were produced even for the Hungarian Ikarus) - closed and looted.
    3. Rubtsovskiy Plant of Spare Parts - (produced spare parts for ATZ tractors) on its basis the Altayvagon enterprise was created for the production of railway freight rolling stock. (feverish)
    4. Altai Tractor Plant, rattled throughout Russia - looted and sold out.

    PS: A relative works at RMZ - he says we are repairing a "product" (BPM), and then the roof is removed from the workshop, metal beams are cut off and the walls are dismantled ... and this is a DEFENSE enterprise ... ROGOZIN, OUCH!
    1. 0
      5 June 2016 13: 40
      Quote: Konstantin54
      ... and this is a DEFENSE enterprise ... ROGOZIN, AU!

      They need people in leather jackets, with Mausers - they heal any disease from all the impetuous corrupt directors and their relatives at all times .....

      But Rogozin do not shout, this creation has long been necessary for procedures in the basement ..... In addition to laughter, it does not cause anything laughing
  27. +1
    5 June 2016 10: 46
    Kremlin agents everywhere! am
  28. +2
    5 June 2016 10: 50
    Quote: Berkut24
    1) Ukrainians are not in trouble. "Ukrainians" are the trouble.
    2) They staged the Nazi junta on the Maidan, they went to this long and hard. They dumped under the joyful hooting of Yanukovych and overwhelmingly elected Poroshenko. To be honest - they wanted it with all the fibers of the soul.
    3) Have you tried to conduct a survey, how many Ukrainians consider us brothers? And we, compassionate, are crammed into relatives. Let those who are brothers let him come to Russia, work, give birth to children, help raise the Far East, etc.
    Each country has its own life cycle. Do not resist nature - let "Ukrainians" realize themselves to the end. So that later no one else would have such thoughts in their heads.


    The trouble is not the Ukrainians, but the trouble is the Ukrainians !!! And such zealots, who tell us that we are not brothers with the people of Ukraine, work out the loot of the US State Department! The people were brainwashed for 25 years, that Russia is the enemy, with the full connivance of our authorized officials, and what do you want after that ...?! There are no Ukrainians, there is the same Russian world, torn away from Mother Russia, experts from all kinds of the CIA and other similar organizations, with our tacit consent ..., so who is to blame for what is happening ...?!
  29. +2
    5 June 2016 10: 59
    This plant is completely worn out and in no way competitive. He is not of any interest. All that is happening there is the machinations of the Ukrainian "merchants" hucksters and authorities. Hysteria about the Russian threat - just to distract attention
  30. 0
    5 June 2016 11: 06
    Why the hell do you need old equipment, except for scrap?
  31. Tim
    +1
    5 June 2016 11: 06
    Maybe the SBU confused Russia with China, and when the deal with the Chinese did not work out again, we became to blame.
  32. +1
    5 June 2016 11: 17
    the adventurous kakel wanted to sell his native plant for scrap, but he broke off, you see, he didn’t share with anyone
  33. +1
    5 June 2016 11: 18
    I don’t understand something, who is the owner of HTZ ...

    "" Director General of KhTZ Andrey Koval, who was appointed to this position in March 2016, carried out preparations for dismantling foundry equipment for export to Russia as directed by the Russian owners of HTZ».

    And then they write that in April 2016, the Ukrainian businessman became the owner of KhTZ ...

    Well, then ... Why make a noise if, since 2004, the plant has been removed from the government's list of strategically important for the Ukrainian economy?

    Even further ... "Foundry equipment was dismantled for export to the Russian Federation" ...
    Um ... Is it EXACTLY foundry equipment that is important for Russian industry ???

    In general, empty-headed nonsense and whim ... They don’t even follow the logic of their statements ... The goal is just to fart, so that the spirit carries Russia, but fart, absolutely not taking into account the wind roses ...
  34. +1
    5 June 2016 11: 25
    Sorry of course, the factory !!! After all, they built everything together, only the sick got to the whole head.
  35. 0
    5 June 2016 11: 35
    Paranoia is progressing!
  36. -1
    5 June 2016 11: 50
    It’s necessary at what level the new technologies (probably nano) were achieved especially in Russia, they took so easily assembled a tractor factory with a foundry - they reduced it — they stuffed it into cardboard boxes and sent it to Rassia with a transport company .... hurray hurray ...
    1. 0
      5 June 2016 12: 16
      quote = masiya]It’s necessary at what level the new technologies (probably nano) were achieved especially in Russia, they took so easily assembled a tractor factory with a foundry - they reduced it — they stuffed it into cardboard boxes and sent it to Rassia with a transport company .... hurray hurray ...[/ Quote]
      And what surprises you ....? We do not destroy, but save! Ours is simple, that's all! hi There is fundamental equipment there ... (and not your Western plastics ..) I hope they managed to evacuate the "basic" from being sent (as scrap metal) to the Baltic States ...
  37. +1
    5 June 2016 12: 29
    The main conquest of the Outskirts - "Vasha Rasha", is not even close to "Nasha Parasha"!
    Soon, in the criminal code of the Okrug, only sections on crimes against the government and national security will remain - giving and bribing a petty official of the Okrug will fall under the article "Provocation of Russia and an attempt to bribe an employee by Kremlin agents."
  38. 0
    5 June 2016 14: 35
    Everyone is sawing and sawing, but otherwise, everyone smokes and smokes! HTZ and fumigates them with anasha! Russia is convenient to cover the cut.
  39. 0
    5 June 2016 16: 08
    Tractor production in Russia:
    2000 - 19,2 thousand units
    2001 - 14,2 thousand units
    2002 - 9,2 thousand units
    2003 - 8,0 thousand units
    2013 - 9767 units
    2014 - 7734 pieces
    Production of agricultural tractors in Russia:
    2011 - 16841 units
    2012 - 14226 units
    2013 - 7641 units
    2014 - 6394 pieces
  40. 0
    5 June 2016 17: 09
    You, dear ones, make yourself the trouble of remembering how many soldiers Russia put in order to defend Kiev, and after you surrender it to the Germans, take it back.
    Take an interest in how many of those 27 million who died in World War II fell in Ukraine and for Ukraine.
    I would seriously think about how we will win back the land for just giving it to the Anglo-American foe. The land is watered with the blood of those whose portraits you recently carried in the ranks of the Immortal Regiment.
    I think in those who think that everything by itself resolves no.
    Therefore, it is necessary to look at Ukraine without banter, i.e. as the occupied territory of Russia, clearly see the invaders and soberly assess the actions of the occupation authorities and their henchmen.
  41. 0
    5 June 2016 17: 10
    Well, why does Russia need this rubbish, it is better to build a new plant or reconstruct the existing Altai, Volgograd ... "Shitcrats" and "effective managers", working off the Judas silver coins, have already done so much evil to the Russian economy that it will not pay off and this message is just one of the attempts to "put our heads on our ears" telling us that Ukrainians are doing very badly, and We are so white and fluffy, we care for you, dear Russians. Surely no one tried to export the documentation and the plant to Russia, most likely this is an attempt to "earn points" for their special services. It is necessary to raise Russia from its knees, and not to compare it with the Outskirts! We have everything for this, we lack only the political will and the desire to give - "to give the presumptuous elite and" effective managers "head over heels.
    1. 0
      5 June 2016 17: 35
      There is no homeland for business, and metal is metal in Africa
  42. +1
    5 June 2016 17: 34
    Damn, some Moscow structures are just waiting for someone to go bankrupt throughout Russia or hold an auction for the sale of buildings and structures, they are buying up everything in metal
    1. +1
      5 June 2016 18: 26
      The neighboring collective farm went bankrupt and sold for debts. The new owner cut the entire industrial zone into metal: current, workshops, garage. The office in the center of the village was dismantled and taken out along with the concrete slabs of the basement. The resulting funnel with a depth of 4 meters and a diameter of 20 m in the center of the village next to the monument to the soldiers of the liberators stood for two years until the administration combed and fell asleep. People were left to their own devices. Now they survive as they can. Who snatched the technique of farming. I am silent about young people, since she left all villages. People there are angry like nowhere. And this is not the end. The only water tower with a well is intentionally spoiled. I don’t know how to end Here he is, in short, the business and life of the Russian hinterland. But Muscovites live well and about the affairs of what is happening in Russia, no one cares.
  43. -2
    5 June 2016 18: 29
    Arrival of the new KhTZ-17221
  44. 0
    5 June 2016 23: 09
    People, do not believe us! Our Stalingrad plant is "lying around" no one needs, but here is another one. And what to do with it, and who needs it?
  45. 0
    5 June 2016 23: 23
    How much effort and money was invested by the GAZ group in the restoration of the KhTZ ... how many nerves it cost to repair the Ordzhonikidze monument at the factory entrance ... and all to the air ... and another question, who else can imagine what the foundry equipment is ... so I will report to you, the question of dismantling it for scrap was raised back in 2008, due to the high percentage of rejects and complete unprofitability .... some kind of nonsense to dismantle the furnace and export it to the Russian Federation .... why? In the Russian Federation, already underutilized foundry equipment
  46. 0
    6 June 2016 08: 13
    Yes, this is an ordinary raider seizure, we decided to conduct it as an operation of the SBU to support anti-Russian hysteria ...

    The Austrian shareholder Siegfried Wolf said that the Kharkov Tractor Plant (KhTZ) could stop production due to charges against the enterprise, Interfax-Ukraine reports.

    “We had a clear business plan for the current year to achieve a profitable result, but due to the disruption of production caused by unfounded claims of representatives of the authorities, many contracts concluded, some of which have already been prepaid by 30-40%, remain unfulfilled. lost three or four months, and now it is difficult for me to predict what the results of the year will be, "said Wolf, who owns 30% of the shares.

    According to him, the contract with Ukrainian Leasing for the supply of 40 tractors remained in doubt. The contract was fulfilled by 75%.

    "We have the necessary tractors on the site, but they are not equipped with engines, because of the existing bans, they cannot be supplied from Russia," he clarified.

    At the same time, he said, they cannot replace these engines with Western ones.

    Now legal proceedings are underway to recover from the enterprise more than 400 million UAH in loans received in 1998 as a state-owned enterprise. At the beginning of April, the Higher Administrative Court rejected the complaint of the plant and upheld the decision of the Kharkiv Administrative Court of Appeal to recover the said funds.

    In early May of this year, KhTZ reported on searches conducted by the SBU from March 21 to April 8, during which financial and other documents were seized.

    According to Wolf, they have not been formally charged with alleged economic crimes.
  47. 0
    8 June 2016 21: 13
    Quote: masiya
    It’s necessary at what level the new technologies (probably nano) were achieved especially in Russia, they took so easily assembled a tractor factory with a foundry - they reduced it — they stuffed it into cardboard boxes and sent it to Rassia with a transport company .... hurray hurray ...

    I would like to know who was hurt to put a minus on my message, it's a joke ... what are you doing in your own country? Oh, you’ve been waged for any kind of divorce, calm down to us no matter the fucking dog with your antediluvian factories of the times of the USSR have not fallen, we ourselves now, if it’s not difficult to get on the Internet, we are building NEW BUSINESSES ... and not small ...

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