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Iraqi general: recent battles have shown the high efficiency of helicopters delivered by Russia

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Mi-28HE and Mi-35 helicopters play a significant role in battles with IS militants, reports RIA News Statement by the representative of the Iraqi Command, General Al-Zubaydi.




“The Mi-28НЭ (" Night Hunters ") and Mi-35 helicopters, now used by the Iraqi army, have shown their high efficiency. They played a big role in the recent battles, ”said al-Zubaydi.

Recall that the government forces of Iraq and Shiite militia a week ago launched an operation to liberate the city of Fallujah. During this time, the Iraqi units, with the support of the Western coalition, liberated a number of settlements and destroyed the leader of the local IG unit, Haji Hamzu.

According to the agency, “the city of Fallujah is located in 50 kilometers west of Baghdad, the IS militants keep it from 2014, about 350 thousand people lived in the city before the war”.


First Syrian Mi-28HE, September 2014
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  1. CORNET
    CORNET 4 June 2016 13: 13
    +34
    We don’t deliver garbage ...!
    1. Finches
      Finches 4 June 2016 13: 17
      +64
      Russian combat helicopters are a fusion of the ideas of the cleverest engineers and designers, the professionalism of workers, the vast experience of the Afghan and Chechen wars embodied in metal! And if you add to this the professionalism and courage of Russian pilots, this is the best that can be in aviation!
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 June 2016 13: 32
        +24
        The United States is giving birth to such reviews, and nothing about the price.
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 5 June 2016 07: 09
          +4
          We don’t deliver garbage ...!

          And even if we deliver, then awesome garbage.
      2. cap
        cap 4 June 2016 13: 48
        +16
        Quote: Finches
        And if you add to this the professionalism and courage of Russian pilots - then this is the best that can be in aviation!


        God forbid that they taught to fly. One of the fact that our helicopters liked the coalition, heartburn from the mattresses is guaranteed.
        Good luck and success in battles, flyers and technology.
        1. mihasik
          mihasik 4 June 2016 18: 24
          +3
          Quote: cap
          The fact that our helicopters liked the coalition, heartburn from the mattresses is guaranteed

          Fuck there! They "swallow" our weapons by "both cheeks" laughing... That in Vietnam, that in Iraq the Americans threw their M16s, if they could find our Kalash and fought with our weapons! fellow And you say heartburn recourse
          We don’t forget about the delivery of the MI-8 batch to Afghanistan. laughing Afghans ordered and Americans paid laughing
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 4 June 2016 18: 52
            +6
            Quote: mihasik
            Afghans ordered and Americans paid laughing

            I will say more, the other day on TV showed how from Saint-Nazaire "Mistral" went to the Egyptians.
            Question: who do you think will pay for our Ka-52K, under which these ships were imprisoned request
            Along the way, those who paid for the Mistrals themselves are the Saudis laughing
          2. bravo-fab
            bravo-fab 6 June 2016 13: 50
            +1
            Let me refute you! I talked with the American marin this winter, and we talked about the good old Russian Hallivar about the M16 and the Ak, he agreed with the reliability and the best combat qualities of the AK at short distances, about the 7-62 power. I asked him, what would you choose in battle? He said, only our American, and asked why ??? And he said, we cannot use captured weapons, they are most often spoiled and destroyed on the spot. If there is a lot, then they are shipped. Soldiers hide pistols, disassemble them in parts, stuff them into pipes, boxes, wherever they want to hide them in parts, so that they don't find the whole captured cannon. And houses in the States are already collecting their theft-prey, and there they are already carrying home. Why can't you take a trophy? 1) For safety reasons. 2) by the sound of shooting, friendly can open fire on friendly people. He himself was 2 times in Iraq, studied in the battle for Fallujah. And now on vacation in Jakarta, where we actually met. We talked a lot about his service, learned a lot, some stereotypes about their army are true, but most, our jingoistic patriots invented or inflated from a one-time occasion into "like-so-always."
            1. BEECH 1972
              BEECH 1972 6 June 2016 14: 24
              +1
              \\\ but most, our jingoistic patriots invented or inflated from a one-time occasion in "like-so-always."
              /// Many words about nothing. The author of the comment you wanted to misrepresent was not talking about Iraq or sending trophies home. He cited a real historical fact that took place, in Vietnam, the Americans threw capricious M 16 and by hook or by crook mined AK. It's just that you "hole-patriots" are jarred by any positive from the history or reality of "hurray-patriots" and you immediately start citing "scows full of feces" as an example!
          3. yehat
            yehat 6 June 2016 17: 07
            0
            the American army does not have good and inexpensive mountain transport helicopters
            so we went our mi-8
          4. tomket
            tomket 7 June 2016 10: 39
            +1
            Quote: mihasik
            That in Vietnam, that in Iraq the Americans threw their M16s, if they could find our Kalash and fought with our weapons!

            It’s clear that amirikos in the fields immediately transfer to UAZs, T-72 and BTR-80, and fly exclusively on Mi-8 and Crocodiles, and there’s nothing to say about small arms. Yes, and they change into kirzachi.
        2. Andrey K
          Andrey K 4 June 2016 18: 58
          +9
          Quote: cap

          God forbid that they taught to fly. One of the fact that our helicopters liked the coalition, heartburn from the mattresses is guaranteed.
          Good luck and success in battles, flyers and technology.

          The video shows the "drooling" of the Arab brothers on our Ka-52 good
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 5 June 2016 09: 22
            +3
            An interesting video, even if you don’t know the language.
            But what did not like it - the collectors are all aged. Young people are not visible.
            1. BEECH 1972
              BEECH 1972 6 June 2016 14: 49
              +3
              \\\ But what did not like it - the collectors are all aged. Young people are not visible.
              /// This is neither an indicator nor a negative. This is just a good old veteran tradition. When the press or the big bosses come to any large enterprise with Soviet history, they try to expose the oldest and most honored veterans to the most prominent. And this is right, especially considering that it was these people who built all these enterprises at one time, and then in the most difficult years they pulled them on their hump despite all the difficulties and hardships. Now at our enterprises young people work more than enough, and study even more, including in production. This trend is especially well observed in enterprises of the reviving military-industrial complex. ツ
      3. asiat_61
        asiat_61 4 June 2016 22: 45
        +3
        Here, "Russian Helicopters", and put up for sale. First they will privatize, and then they will shut it down.
      4. complete zero
        complete zero 7 June 2016 04: 23
        0
        it’s for sure, vast experience has been accumulated (Afghan-Chechen-African, etc.) ... here we are definitely ahead of the rest
      5. tracker
        tracker 7 June 2016 06: 32
        0
        according to the book of memoirs of the pilot Apache in Afghanistan, ... to take off, you need to do about a thousand operations to start and control systems, it took about 40 minutes, and for about 20 minutes the engine worked, returning with air-to-ground Nelfayer rockets ( cool rocket at the same time) was categorically not welcomed by the technicians, according to the instructions, the rocket had to be sent to the factory for full testing and replacement of the internal guidance blocks that could be damaged during landing. Hence, the Americans thrashed them for any purpose, mainly for peaceful people or small groups
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    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 4 June 2016 15: 06
      +7
      It is clear that we do not supply crap .. The main thing is that the "crap" does not end up behind the control stick .. And the fact that they don’t let them end up in ISIS .. I hope the pilots were selected very carefully ..
      1. demo
        demo 4 June 2016 15: 38
        +2
        Are you talking about the "foolish glass" nose "not for long. Or breaks, or lose"?
    4. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 5 June 2016 10: 24
      0
      Quote: CORNET
      We don’t deliver garbage ...!

      Firm brooms do not knit! bully
    5. raptor1975
      raptor1975 5 June 2016 18: 49
      -4
      Well, this is not the first time I am repeating to the fans of our helicopters - compare weapons, read, because it is clear that the weapons of APACH LONGBOU are superior to those of our attack helicopters: APACH LONGBOU: 30mm cannon ammunition of 1200 shells, HAYLFAIR missiles with an infrared homing head -
      MI28: 30mm cannon ammunition for 300 shells, ATAKA missiles with laser illumination - that is, you need to highlight the target before it hits, the helicopter risks being shot down. Plus, the APACH LONGBOW system allows you to identify up to 16 targets in a matter of seconds and release HAILFAIR ATGMs in 5 seconds and will be deleted even before the missiles hit the target.
      1. bravo-fab
        bravo-fab 6 June 2016 13: 54
        -2
        MI 28 was made in the USSR, and went to 90 in Russia, then Russia lost the race in electronics. This is an 90x disease. Now sanctions ... Most likely they know this problem, but they cannot deliver equipment from our planes to a helicopter. I think they’ll catch up soon. And so, I agree, the British archer is better than our Hunter.
        1. tomket
          tomket 7 June 2016 10: 44
          0
          Quote: bravo-fab
          MI 28 was made in the USSR, and went to 90 in Russia, then Russia lost the race in electronics. This is an 90x disease. Now sanctions ... Most likely they know this problem, but they cannot deliver equipment from our planes to a helicopter. I think they’ll catch up soon. And so, I agree, the British archer is better than our Hunter.

          Do not believe it. At Ka-50, the sighting system was made on the basis of the Su-25 complex.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 12
        +1
        Quote: raptor1975
        Well, this is not the first time I am repeating to the fans of our helicopters - compare the weapons, read, because it is clear that the weapons of APACH LONGBOU surpass the head-gear of our attack helicopters:

        It's not about armament, but about the ability to fight on such a technique ... here is an example for you:
        In 1999, the Yugoslav Mi-24V shot down the An-9D “Apache” and the transport “Black Hawk” of the US Air Force, performing the operation to rescue the F-114 pilot shot down by the Serbian Mi-2, with the Sturm 64M21M16.

        I must say that the Mi-35 helicopter (export designation Mi-24V) was built in 1986 and had very imperfect equipment for night combat, which was equipped with all the Mi-24P (the series began production in 1986) and the Mi-24V, built since 1986 to 1989 As a matter of fact, all the equipment for conducting military operations in the dark consisted of an ONG pilot with a detection range of not more than 3 km and infrared illumination of the HUD and instruments in the cockpit, as well as a removable night vision nozzle on the Rainbow system targeting eyepieces with an aiming range ATGM with an increase of 16x8km and range in search mode with an increase of 8x6km. In the afternoon, the operator’s night vision device was replaced with a less contrast infravisor for working with low light levels, as well as for detecting thermal traces of armored vehicles and enemy aircraft. It was noted that in the dark, scanning by the operator at a distance of 6 km gives a probability of detecting a target of no more than 22%, and, moreover, greatly overloads the operator.

        His opponent was much superior to the Serbian helicopter - the AN-64D Apache Longbow belonged to a series launched in 1993, had all the necessary avionics for combat in the dark. The front vision system of night vision had an effective range of 6 km, and its “picture” was transmitted to the pilot's helmet. The operator’s ATG guidance equipment was also much more advanced, but, most importantly, the American helicopter carried a round-robin radar in a radius of 9,3 km, which allowed it to independently direct the Hellfire missiles from the PRGSN to a range of 8 km. The Mi-35K had the only qualitative superiority in guided missile weapons - the ATGM 9M117M2 - the last modification of the “Sturm” hit 7km, surpassing the Hellfire in maximum speed by 120m / s, and in average speed by 100. In addition to precise command guidance, on the final at the stage of approaching the target, the Sturm IKGSN was captured, and the GOS was adapted for low temperatures - designed to destroy tanks with a weak exhaust infrared signature and “did not pay attention” to high-temperature noise - for the same reason - when tanks are burning and shells are breaking, it is necessary to find a true, active target. In combination with command correction, the probability of a Sturm helicopter being hit was close to 95%, which was also shown by the battles with the Cobras, while the Hellfire radar had a helicopter chance of about 80%, and when using corner reflectors it was another 30% less. The fact that the Serbian Mi-35K had more advanced RVVs - 2 R-60Ms against one AIM-9M and two Apache Stingers did not play any role - both helicopters had an EVU and could exchange launches of the R-60M and AIM-9M from a distance of not more than 4km.

        In parts it is necessary to throw off ... excuse me.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 14
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          In parts it is necessary to throw off ... excuse me.

          In this case, a “cruel joke” with “Apache” was played by his own radar - SPO-17 of the Serbian machine determined the direction of irradiation with an accuracy of 10 ° from 12 km, outside the radius of the American radar, after which the Mi-35, hiding in the folds of the terrain, walked on the passive bearing, and the operator, in the direction of the bearing, was looking for a target in a small sector, which allowed him to use the 8km mode with 16x magnification. When the helicopters approached 6700m, the Mi-35 got up, immediately “appeared” on the Apache MFD and launched, the American helicopter was already doomed ... After which the Serbian car caught up and shot the “Black Hawk” - all the paratroopers died.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 16
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          In parts it is necessary to throw off ... excuse me.

          Another - the last victory of the Mi-24 over the “Apache” occurred most recently on July 22, 2002. In this case, the situation was exactly the opposite. Over DMZ between North and South Korea, the South Korean Apache AN-64A and the North Korean Mi-35VPM or Mi-35PV clashed (in fact, Mi-35VPM and Mi-35PV are export designations of the Mi-24VPM and Mi-24PV, differing only in artillery armament - Mi-24VPM carries a 23mm high-speed quick-fire gun GS-23L, and Mi-24PV carries an exchange rate quick-fire artillery system GS-30K, however, in China (where the aforementioned vehicles were delivered - they came to North Korea in the order of “brotherly help” of China, rather total, and piloted them in Chinese military experts) Mi-35PV was finalized by the installation in the same way as the GSh-23 high-mobility 23mm cannon, copied from the old Soviet NR-23M, which has four times lower rate of fire, but the equivalent initial projectile speed, intended mainly for air combat and infantry fighting and light armored vehicles. The rest were almost identical helicopters, with integrated armor not inferior to the Mi-28, the Ataka complex, which in addition to anti-tank missiles at 6 and 8 km was equipped with anti-bunker missiles, as well as anti-helicopter missiles with a range of 7 and 10 km. Helicopters of this series carried S-8 blocks on the inner pylons, on the outer pylons in the four-position ATU “Attack”, on the tips on the two-position APU “Attack” and one, Igla-V, fixed from below. On the side of the tips, APUs are placed perpendicularly for two (one on each tip) of the P-62M corrected high-precision anti-fighter missiles, with a range of up to 15 km. (Russian helicopters use more advanced missiles of the same P-64V design at 17 km, but the army designation is advanced and export option is identical - R-60KM). In addition, sighting equipment was completely new; it was represented by a round-the-clock numerical EOS mounted on the wing with a detection range of 15 km and automatic capture of objects. The small scanning zone within + -17 ° was compensated by the “yaw” technique, perfect numerical EOS and high automation. These modernized helicopters were built on the basis of the already highly efficient Mi-24VP of the 1889-1992 series, bringing the Mi-24VP to the VPM standard was reduced to an additional radio line for automatic pilot guidance of the R-60KM, the most “young” Mi-24P were brought to the PV standard by installing EOS, armor protection Mi-24VP and the same additional command line since 1997. So, we can safely say that the North Korean helicopter was much more perfect even the AN-64D Apache Longbow, and the battle took place with the first version of the Apache AN-64A of the 1983 series, which did not carry the RVV at all, and its “main caliber” was obsolete laser Hellfires of the first modification with a range of 6 km ... It was a one-goal game.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 18
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          In parts it is necessary to throw off ... excuse me.

          The point was set by a detailed study of the wreckage - tungsten rods of a certain length were found in various helicopter assemblies that are used in all modifications of the R-60 family missiles, as well as in the ATA anti-helicopter missiles of the Ataka complex. And the pilots had nothing to do with it - they simply had no chance.
          Thus, 24 combat helicopters of the enemy were shot down by Mi-17 helicopters of various modifications: modifications of the “Cobra” AN-1J, AH-1S, AH-1W, “Apache” AN-64D, AN-64A, Mi-24V helicopters; in this case, only 8 Mi-24D and V. were lost (However, a downed Georgian 24ka can be credited both to the account of victories and to the account of defeats). As a result, the ratio of losses in helicopter battles involving Mi-24 (if the Georgian Mi-24V is excluded) is 8-16, that is, for each downed Soviet combat vehicle there are two destroyed production helicopters, mainly the United States. Note that two precedents for the battles between the Mi-24 and the advertised “Apache” ended in the death of American helicopters and a brilliant victory for the Mi-24.

          Something like this... hi
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 6 June 2016 22: 00
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            however, in China (where the aforementioned vehicles were delivered - they came to North Korea in the order of "brotherly help" of China, most likely, and were piloted by Chinese military experts)
            The helicopters were delivered to the DPRK, the Chinese did not have them and do not have them. Although not. There are not many, but only as war trophies. For example, Chinese experts are examining a Soviet helicopter delivered from Afghanistan. "Gift" from the Mujahideen.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 June 2016 22: 08
              +2
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              Helicopters were delivered precisely to the DPRK, the Chinese did not have them and do not.

              Maybe the Union delivered 24 matches through China to Korea ... who knows ... hi
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 6 June 2016 22: 39
                +1
                March 01, 2012
                USA, Arizona
                Shooting a comparative test drive of the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and the AH1 Cobra helicopter (from the Museum’s Army Aviation Fund) for the South Korean version of Top Gear.
                At the beginning of the second minute of the video, the helicopter fails to control the helicopter beats on the ground near the minibus of the crew. Everyone is alive --- the car to smithereens.
                Such is the "movie" laughing
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 June 2016 13: 15
    +16
    This makes me happy. New orders to our defense industry. However, as an engineer, he would prefer the Ka 52. Well, they have more potential, obviously.
    1. poquello
      poquello 4 June 2016 13: 37
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      This makes me happy. New orders to our defense industry. However, as an engineer, he would prefer the Ka 52. Well, they have more potential, obviously.

      and the point is to prefer, everyone is good, 52 has a higher rate of climb, and 35 8 soldiers takes
      1. svp67
        svp67 4 June 2016 13: 41
        +5
        Quote: poquello
        and the point is to prefer, everyone is good, 52 has a higher rate of climb, and 35 8 soldiers takes

        Yes, he does, but the question is, how often does he do it and how much does he "need" them in flight?
        1. poquello
          poquello 4 June 2016 14: 33
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: poquello
          and the point is to prefer, everyone is good, 52 has a higher rate of climb, and 35 8 soldiers takes

          Yes, he does, but the question is, how often does he do it and how much does he "need" them in flight?

          transport with fire support is not in demand?
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 June 2016 15: 45
            +1
            Quote: poquello
            transport with fire support is not in demand?

            And Mi8 / 17 for such a role would not be better?
            It would be, otherwise Mi28, Ka52 and Ka60 would not have appeared now
            1. poquello
              poquello 4 June 2016 16: 24
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: poquello
              transport with fire support is not in demand?

              And Mi8 / 17 for such a role would not be better?

              those if it is necessary to beat the tanks with 28 from 52, and if the people transfer 17 from 60, the Americans in Vietnam have revised something ?, so they lost.
              Quote: svp67

              It would be, otherwise Mi28, Ka52 and Ka60 would not have appeared now

              I do not see logic
              1. svp67
                svp67 5 June 2016 00: 46
                0
                Quote: poquello
                those if it is necessary to beat the tanks with 28 from 52, and if the people transfer 17 from 60, the Americans in Vietnam have revised something ?, so they lost.
                You have a strange logic, as a counter-argument can be given that the SA has a "flying infantry fighting vehicle" - Mi24 like the Afghan is the same.
                Quote: poquello
                I do not see logic

                The logic is ordinary and it is called - the development of military equipment, with a change in tactics and strategy.
                From the Mi8 the Mi24 was "born", from the Mi24 - the Mi28 everything is in motion ... And like it or not, the Mi24 transport-combat helicopter had to turn into a purely combat Mi28. This way you can beat the enemy more effectively.
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 4 June 2016 18: 20
        0
        Quote: poquello
        and 35 8 soldiers takes

        Yeah. To the detriment of ammunition.
    2. Blondy
      Blondy 4 June 2016 14: 20
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, as an engineer, he would still prefer the Ka 52.

      And what to do - the buyer stretches his legs for clothes and takes what is cheaper, and minus the tram stop with efficiency he is quite happy.
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 4 June 2016 14: 40
        0
        Quote: Blondy
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        However, as an engineer, he would still prefer the Ka 52.

        And what to do - the buyer stretches his legs for clothes and takes what is cheaper, and minus the tram stop with efficiency he is quite happy.

        And how much will the price of Mi-28 and Ka-52?
  3. An60
    An60 4 June 2016 13: 18
    +6
    Mr. General, thanks for the advertisement.
    1. User
      User 4 June 2016 14: 08
      0
      Quote: An60
      Mr. General, thanks for the advertisement.

      Efficiency and quality of equipment is the best advertisement.
  4. svp67
    svp67 4 June 2016 13: 25
    +8
    A combat helicopter is a powerful weapon, but only in skilled hands. And it is very good that excellent RUSSIAN combat helicopters were in such hands.
  5. Stabilization
    Stabilization 4 June 2016 13: 32
    +7
    I often see from the window flying MI-28s, already equipped with a radar above the blades) the Rostvertol conducts test flights, beauty, especially in the dark), another 26 flies quite often)
  6. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 4 June 2016 13: 41
    +3
    all the same, I have doubts about the effectiveness of the hellfires .. therefore they take ours too .. then the Israelites will run to justify their galoshes .. type on ours it is necessary to hang up to kill, but after all they do not hang but move both horizontally and vertically smoothly current .. and "released-forgot" against the background of the earth and really "forget" recourse
  7. evil partisan
    evil partisan 4 June 2016 13: 43
    +4
    I remember in Torzhok somewhere in 2009 ... just 35 appeared, sat in a cafe at the entrance and went from Leningradsky to the fliers, watched the World Cup in hockey, cheered for ours in the final (our Canadians won 2-1, Radulov won the victory. .. kind of ...). They learned to fly 35-ke. Reviews were most enthusiastic about the convenience and comfort of the pilots.
    1. atalef
      atalef 4 June 2016 13: 46
      -5
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      I remember in Torzhok around 2009

      Torzhok smile
      I have my whole mother's family from Torzhok (including the great-grandfather of a shoemaker - an agent of 3 intelligence services)
      What did the partisans do in Torzhok? Spying on the flyers or looking for gas?
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 4 June 2016 14: 03
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        What did the partisans do in Torzhok?

        For those not knowledgeable wink... Torzhok is a large gas transportation hub in Russia where gas comes from Gazprom Transgaz Ukhta. And where is the branching of the streams to St. Petersburg (where you ate Courvoisier and Ruslan ... sad ) and further to Estonia and Belarus (export pipelines). Well, and something else ...
        And I did there pipe diagnostics after our same VTD ... repeat I almost exploded there ... But this is corporate information. request 10000 Baku - and I will tell. repeat
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 4 June 2016 17: 24
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Torzhok is a large gas transportation hub in Russia where gas comes from Gazprom Transgaz Ukhta. And where is the branching of the streams to Peter (where you courvoisier and Ruslan ate
          - from some cool series, Interns, it seems, from interns there is not the case from there? laughing But he managed to drag in the MRI apparatus, as he planned there? laughing
        2. Seaman77
          Seaman77 4 June 2016 18: 29
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          10000 Baku - and I will tell.


          Box of Courvoisier. Who is bigger? drinks

          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          And I did there pipe diagnostics after our same VTD ...


          VTD - This is "Sudden Fuck-Dadah" ??? belay


        3. atalef
          atalef 4 June 2016 20: 49
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          I almost exploded there ...But this is corporate information. 10000 Baku - and I will tell.

          laughing
      2. mole
        mole 5 June 2016 08: 17
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Torzhok
        I have my whole mother's family from Torzhok (including the great-grandfather of a shoemaker - an agent of 3 intelligence services)
        What did the partisans do in Torzhok? Spying on the flyers or looking for gas?

        Ask the NKVD agents who wrote the denunciations why your great-grandfather annoyed them that they accused him of espionage. Most likely they accused him of their own, having fallen for something shallow. In those days in Torzhok there were no flyers and gas.
  8. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 4 June 2016 13: 51
    +1
    Who would doubt that our turntables are highly efficient soldier
  9. gg.na
    gg.na 4 June 2016 13: 52
    +1
    Pleasant feedback on our rotorcraft good such reviews warm the soul !!! good Not a sin even a glass of wine drinks on this occasion !!! wink
  10. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 4 June 2016 14: 00
    0
    This is not a horse in your coat.
  11. UREC
    UREC 4 June 2016 14: 09
    0
    Our cars are wonderful! And who, is it interesting sitting in the cockpit? Really Iraqi aces!
  12. Galleon
    Galleon 4 June 2016 14: 12
    +4
    As they say, the Iraqis are in good health, come on in if that ... You can bring friends.
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 4 June 2016 14: 24
    +2
    Quote: UREC
    And who, is it interesting sitting in the cockpit? Really Iraqi aces!

    In Vietnam, the Lisitsyins flew on the MiGs, and here, too, most likely someone in the local dialect.
  14. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 4 June 2016 14: 26
    +1
    Our turntables are good, everyone celebrates it. Only one thing is not clear: what is it that the Iraqi army with OUR turntables is breaking the way for the Americans? And then "striped" all the "nishtyaks" for themselves?
  15. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 4 June 2016 14: 29
    +5
    The Mi-28H helicopter "Night Hunter" has a special system of pilot protection and can "see" the enemy at a distance of 35 kilometers even in the dark. Test pilots call it a "fighter helicopter", and the people have already dubbed it a "flying tank."
  16. Pitot
    Pitot 4 June 2016 14: 48
    0
    It’s strange. And here recently the Mi-28 was blamed. Again they are trying to get out of their shit .... How is it that some people are saddened by the successes of Russia .... And by the way, GDP too ....
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 4 June 2016 14: 59
      +4
      Be that as it may, the Mi-28N has something to hait for. He is not able, so to speak, to use weapons on the "fire and forget" principle. Using the same ATGM, she needs to highlight the target all the time. although this is more a minus of the rocket itself than of the helicopter request
      1. Finches
        Finches 4 June 2016 15: 02
        +1
        These are the nuances and they are fixable! hi
        1. yehat
          yehat 6 June 2016 17: 10
          0
          these nuances have been fixed for 15 years, but everyone remains and remains
          you can not do it this way.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        He is not able, so to speak, to use weapons on the "fire and forget" principle. Using the same ATGM, she needs to highlight the target all the time. although this is more a minus of the rocket itself than of the helicopter

        A helicopter is primarily a weapon and far from the worst of its kind, but one of the best. It is important who is sitting in the cockpit of this machine. It is the pilot who tips the scales in battle in his direction or in the direction of the adversary.
        At the same time, MI-24 is recalled ... "Crocodile" is a real fighter, who has proved this title more than once in more than one war. At the same time, it is on account of 24 that there is one shot down combat aircraft. At the same time, the survivability of not only the 24th, but and all our other helicopters are higher than those of Western machines, which is also proven by combat use. hi
  17. darksoul
    darksoul 4 June 2016 15: 09
    +10
    here is our bird in Iraq
    1. Siberiak
      Siberiak 5 June 2016 10: 20
      +2
      And the information on the monitor in English does not bother?
      1. darksoul
        darksoul 5 June 2016 16: 37
        +2
        it doesn’t bother, the Mi-28e was delivered to Iraq, you know what international language of communication you are, therefore it doesn’t smell like Cyrillic
  18. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 4 June 2016 16: 46
    +6
    Who would doubt that!
    When in the east, on the carpet, the plane took off and landing, we already flew the Gorynychi and the Babka-hedgehog on a stupa showed aerobatics in difficult woodland.
    So we bring our experience from antiquity.
    By the way, I advise foreigners to read and think Russian fairy tales!
    - About the Internet we have known since the time of the plate and the bullseye
    -Precise weapons with homing heads were used when wives were chosen.
    -solar and Pinocchio - aka Gorynych
    Nightingale the Robber - sonic weapon
    -Space reconnaissance - Another Mashenka on the Bear said - "I sit high - I look far away!"
    So the fact that many are developing today, we are simply improving! bully
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 June 2016 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: Ruswolf
      Nightingale the Robber - sonic weapon

      No, no ... The nightingale the robber is Chubais with Serdyukov. wink
  19. ple
    ple 4 June 2016 17: 18
    +1
    in our army there would be more of these machines .. and then we sell more green papers there than to ourselves .... this saddens sad as with su 35 and with 400 in china they sold to the photocopy factory ... we have been developing for decades, and they bought it easily and forged it on a conveyor.
  20. lav67
    lav67 4 June 2016 17: 22
    +1
    IG 50 km from Baghdad ??????? MDA Americans to have reached
  21. masiya
    masiya 4 June 2016 20: 42
    0
    It only arouses a feeling of pride in our military-industrial complex, the Ministry of Defense and the whole of Russia, that we have not caved in and continue to make solid, high-quality, lethal weapons for the glory of TRUTH, and we are not shy to sell them to real partners, and not play verbiage like political "partners ... "
  22. Abbra
    Abbra 4 June 2016 21: 25
    0
    I have one clever idea, but don’t be offended ... But I wonder if anyone thought how to make, for example, combat helicopters so that they could refuel in the air without landing on water or land? Can you imagine? Does three troop helicopters fly on combat duty from Vladik to California? Refuel several times. Fly themselves quietly in a neutral space opposite Los Angeles. Therefore, refueling several more times, they return to the mainland. AND? Sorry for the thoughts.
    1. Parsec
      Parsec 4 June 2016 21: 57
      +2
      Vladivostok - Los Angeles 8180 km,

      The speed is 250 km / h, access to the duty area in the air will take 32 hours of flight time. Continuous flight.

      8 (eight) refueling every 1100 km.

      Further refueling every four hours of duty.

      Then back in reverse order.

      A six-hour duty in the air will require 72 hours of flight.
      Three days!
    2. masiya
      masiya 4 June 2016 22: 18
      +1
      Well, it's fantastic ... I can’t even imagine ...
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 June 2016 10: 25
      +3
      No problem.

      This is how it happens with the Americans:
      Simultaneous refueling of two helicopters carrying armored vehicles.
      1. yehat
        yehat 6 June 2016 17: 12
        0
        I wonder at what speed this is happening
        the tanker must balance at the very edge of the stall speed
  23. Winnie76
    Winnie76 4 June 2016 22: 00
    +1
    And a refueling bar 15 meters long. Very erotic
  24. 1774
    1774 5 June 2016 00: 24
    +1
    Words then what "BATTLES". Can give themselves significance. I opened the encyclopedia of the Great Patriotic War, 85 edition, leafed through the color maps at the end, found only three battles - the Smolensk and Kursk defensive battles, battles on the outskirts of Stalingrad, and the rest of the battles or operations, including the Vistula Oder and Korsun-Shevchenkovskaya, the battle for Moscow, the battle for the Dnieper, like many others. And they probably have no less scope there. The battles of your division.
  25. keeper03
    keeper03 5 June 2016 16: 25
    +2
    Here is another video of the combat use of the Mi-28NE.
  26. Manul
    Manul 5 June 2016 22: 50
    +1
    Liter "N" without a radar overhead can be removed. Mi-28 and that's it. Thanks to the desire (quite justified) that we had our own Apache helicopter and went into series. The Ka-50 was chosen as the main attack helicopter, later the Ka-52, and in order to save the development of the Milevites, it was a scout that was demanded from them. Maybe it was a trick to save their project, and even then it was suspected that the supra-hub radar would not work. But we just got a second attack aircraft. I will not say whether this is good or bad, there are different opinions - opponents are convincing that we should not be scattered about creating the same type of machines (well, I don’t know - the Mi-28 has already been exported and brings money to the creators, but the Ka-52 is still at home). I am glad that the Milians have implemented the project. Just repeat - this is not "Night Hunter".
  27. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 6 June 2016 22: 38
    0
    Glory to Russian weapons! Ass is clearly sitting at the helm, masterfully controlling.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 June 2016 22: 47
      +1
      Quote: cat hippo
      Ass clearly sits at the helm

      AS, with your permission, is sitting there. АСС (Ass) - this is "priest" or "fool" in an angelic way request