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USC: the issue of the purchase of new air-cushion amphibious assault ships will be resolved next year

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The question of the purchase of new ships on airbags of the project “Bison” and “Murena” of the RF Ministry of Defense should be resolved by the end of this or early next year, Flotprom the words of the deputy head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Igor Ponomarev.



“The decision will be made when specifying the state armaments program,” explained Ponomarev.

The design features of the ships "allow them to move on the ground, bypassing moats, trenches and minefields, cross marshes and land troops in the depths of the enemy's defenses," the resource notes.

The publication recalls that the "small landing ships of Project 12322" Bison "are the largest hovercraft in the world, capable of carrying three main tank weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers and 140 landing personnel. ”

Landing boats of the project “Moray” 12061 “are intended for landing on an unequipped coast, their displacement is 150 tons, length is 31,3 meters, width is 14,6 meters, speed is up to 55 nodes (102 km / h), they are capable of carrying one tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, or 130 man landing. "

"Moray" armed with two 30-mm automatic gun mounts AK-306, two grenade launchers AGS-17. The crew also has a portable device for setting mines.
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Press Service of the President of the Russian Federation
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  1. azbukin77
    azbukin77 4 June 2016 09: 45
    +9
    There is in the Baltic, saw in the work - a great car !!! I think new vessels of this class are simply necessary.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 4 June 2016 10: 01
      .

      The publication reminds that "Project 12322 Zubr small amphibious ships are the largest hovercraft in the world, capable of transporting three main tanks weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers and 140 troops."

      That would be the "Caliber" on them!
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 June 2016 10: 24
        +17
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        That would be the "Caliber" on them!

        I apologize wildly, are you going to put "Caliber" on each bike?
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 4 June 2016 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          I apologize wildly, are you going to put "Caliber" on each bike?

          And I wildly apologize, why so many minuses at once?
          First, this type of ship is not that small. Secondly: your "bike" does not hover above the ground, but rides on it - so you won't let the "caliber" off of it. But from a hovercraft, in my opinion, it is quite possible to do this without violating the international treaty banning the launch of cruise missiles from the ground.
          Let's minus on!
          1. 1vlad19
            1vlad19 4 June 2016 10: 45
            +2
            I didn’t set a minus, but you can’t let them off on the go, but it makes no sense afloat.
          2. lelikas
            lelikas 4 June 2016 11: 19
            +14
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I wildly apologize, why so many minuses at once?
            First, this type of ship is not that small. Secondly: your "bike" does not hover above the ground, but rides on it - so you won't let the "caliber" off of it. But from a hovercraft, in my opinion, it is quite possible to do this without violating the international treaty banning the launch of cruise missiles from the ground.
            Let's minus on!

            I did not put a minus - but "Caliber" will soon start offering to supply to sex shops. Everything has its place and purpose.
          3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 June 2016 11: 20
            +4
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I wildly apologize, why so many minuses at once?

            Yes, because :) Each ship has its own purpose and sculpting a CD for each boat is both impossible and not necessary.
          4. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 4 June 2016 11: 21
            +1
            Bravo, Alexander! If you think about it, the Caliber launcher can be stabilized if necessary. The idea is great. I support. Well, minusers, they are - minusers.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 4 June 2016 11: 52
              +8
              Quote: evge-malyshev
              Bravo, Alexander! If you think about it, the Caliber launcher can be stabilized if necessary. The idea is great. I support. Well, minusers, they are - minusers.

              ... everything has long been invented by those who even came up with this topic ... (CMKB) "Diamond" ... quote from last June:
              The Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau (TsMKB) proactively developed a new project for a small air-cushion rocket ship (MRKVP), which will replace the ships of Project 1239 Sivuch, said Alexander Shlyakhtenko, general director of the enterprise.
              “For our part, we are ready, even now, to propose a project for a new skeg type hovercraft: we have already carried out the corresponding design studies in the field of weapons and power plants on an initiative basis,” said Shlyakhtenko. Source: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64093
              ... illustration ... hi
          5. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 4 June 2016 11: 21
            0
            Bravo, Alexander! If you think about it, the Caliber launcher can be stabilized if necessary. The idea is great. I support. Well, minusers, they are - minusers.
          6. Inok10
            Inok10 4 June 2016 11: 28
            +4
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            First, this type of ship is not that small. Secondly: your "bicycle" does not hover above the ground, but rides on it - that means you will not let the "caliber" from it.

            ... the idea is clear ... but for these needs there are other hovercraft such as "Bora" catamaran hovercraft, that's where there is a point in making UKSK ... hi
            ... "Bison" is a pure paratrooper, while an excellent paratrooper, options:
            - three tanks
            - 10 armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles and 140 people. h.p.
            - 500 people h.p.
            ... as part of the DKBF "Evgeny Kocheshkov" and "Mordovia", there are two more regular places in the regiment ... 4 units are already a marine battalion with equipment and a dowry ... hi
          7. Manul
            Manul 5 June 2016 23: 47
            0
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I wildly apologize, why so many minuses at once?

            Because indeed the word itself has already been raped many times. If you used the term "cruise missiles", it would be more generalized, and the minuses would be avoided.
            And we were talking about landing ships, are you proposing the marine "Bradley" in our performance? There are "Bora" and "Samum". If we discuss it, then the revival of the production of air-cushion missile boats (along with hydrofoils and ekranoplanes), with UVP.
  2. Abbra
    Abbra 4 June 2016 09: 49
    +9
    And include them in the Baltic Fleet. Balts for diarrhea will go away ...
  3. Coconut
    Coconut 4 June 2016 09: 53
    +2
    Of course, these ships are indispensable for special operations ... to land troops on hard-to-reach shores behind enemy lines
    this is an important part of victory (for example, in Turkey there are many such difficult places laughing )
    1. 1vlad19
      1vlad19 4 June 2016 10: 16
      +3
      Not, for special operations they are very noisy, Chinese fishermen shied away from Murena without seeing her, but only hearing her. For full-blown action. AK-306 and AGS-17 process the shore and landing.
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 4 June 2016 21: 19
        -1
        It's just that at this time you need to turn on the music loudly. For example - "Don't rub salt on my wounds" ... fellow
    2. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 4 June 2016 11: 21
      0
      Of course, these ships are indispensable for special operations.

      this is an important part of victory (for example, in Turkey there are many such difficult places

      If I was there, then probably about ..........
    3. tlauicol
      tlauicol 4 June 2016 16: 33
      0
      to land troops in Turkey for slaughter and leave ships there? awesome strategy! how will they come back?
  4. Coconut
    Coconut 4 June 2016 09: 56
    -2
    Quote: Abbra
    And include them in the Baltic Fleet. Balts for diarrhea will go away ...

    yes they’ll be blown away immediately (NATO) .. only diarrhea and wassat
  5. 1vlad19
    1vlad19 4 June 2016 10: 03
    +2
    Yes, first we cut the moray eels and give the Koreans for training, then we build. Khabarovsk shipbuilding will be loaded. But the DShK site needs to be restored.
  6. weksha50
    weksha50 4 June 2016 10: 04
    0
    Earlier there was information about the resumption of the construction of the Samum-type missile hovercraft ...

    Maybe in the Baltic and the Black Sea they are more important than landing ships?

    Although the provision of fleets with landing craft will provide a good "strain" for the "inhabitants" of the coastal zones on the Black Sea and on the Baltic Sea ...
  7. volodya
    volodya 4 June 2016 10: 22
    +1
    Good cars, especially for the landing. It would not hurt to revive the ekranoplans!
  8. ZAV69
    ZAV69 4 June 2016 10: 34
    +4
    That caliber would be nice on the moon
  9. Maxom75
    Maxom75 4 June 2016 10: 42
    +4
    They are very expensive to maintain, secrecy is in doubt (thunders all over the sea), pluses: speed, depths are not important, ability to go to the coastline. An interesting development of the USSR, but very outdated. Now they are using helicopters, they can fly further and deeper into the territory of the enemy. Westerners use convertiplanes. The existing set of weapons on hovercraft does not allow the effective destruction of enemy defenses. As I always say, you don’t have to rush to do what you did in the USSR, time has passed and in the USSR sometimes ineffective weapons were developed. We need to work in the future. And the prospect is a helicopter-carrying platform, capable of simultaneously launching from 10 cars or more. Where the landing and crew can be at least 15 days. But the defeat of the coastline is the lot of escort ships. Automated floating platforms that can go ashore and clean the coastline (armored personnel carriers with remote control, mine clearing vehicles) must prepare a springboard for landing. And then the landing of helicopters and landing boats from landing platforms located at a distance of up to 50 nautical miles from the coast. At such a distance, these platforms are not included in the zone of destruction of coastal artillery. I understand that you will minus, but the desire to stand out with something in wartime will cost our guys life, and it is most expensive.
    1. volodya
      volodya 4 June 2016 11: 28
      0
      I completely agree with you, we must work for the future!
    2. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 4 June 2016 12: 16
      +4
      Being an NR at the Pacific Fleet, he studied the order of operations of potential enemy marines when landing on the coast of the Far East. (3rd US Marine Division, Okinawa)
      These funds do not suppress the coastal defense, they are already going to the suppressed strip of the coast, weapons for them to shoot at what remains. The coast is handled by escort ships, strike ships. Before strike ships, the landing strip is handled by aviation, handles its goals, especially air defense and coastal missile batteries.
      At a distance of 10-15 km, after the work of aviation, inland, on the landing site, parachute landing, to the battalion, sailors, the task, everything that runs and everything that goes to help to extinguish, advance to the coast, providing a landing from the sea. Then there was still debate that it’s better to have 10 boats of 15 people each. or one in 150, the difference in losses on hits.
      A hovercraft, such as an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored personnel carrier in an NE, a delivery vehicle, and not for a frontal ram, speed and patency (depth during landing and relief of the landing coast) are important
  10. sergey2017
    sergey2017 4 June 2016 11: 06
    0
    Quote: azbukin77
    There is in the Baltic, saw in the work - a great car !!! I think new vessels of this class are simply necessary.

    This is definitely noticed, but the weapons on them are not enough! Now, if you strengthen firepower! Then yes!
  11. Verdun
    Verdun 4 June 2016 19: 22
    0
    The issue of purchasing new air cushion ships of the Zubr and Muren project of the Russian Ministry of Defense should be decided by the end of this or the beginning of next year,
    The issue of purchase can be resolved in the store when the necessary goods are already in stock. So I understand that in this case we are talking about supply contracts. Of course, Russia needs demant SVPs. And I do not doubt the qualities of Moray and Bison. However, for their full use, large crab docks are needed. But with them until the ambush ...
  12. andrewkor
    andrewkor 4 June 2016 19: 51
    0
    "Bison" like in Feodosia were made?