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Egypt transferred the first "Mistral"

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Yesterday the ceremony of the transfer of the Egyptian Navy to the first of the 2-s acquired Mistral-type landing ships, originally built for Russia, was held in Saint-Nazaire (France), said press office DCNS unions.


Egypt transferred the first "Mistral"


It is noted that "the ceremony was attended by the defense ministers and commanders of the Navy of Egypt and France."

According to the press service, "the ship 1010 Gamal Abdel Nasser with a trained Egyptian crew of about 180, people must go to Egypt during June."



The details of the agreement on the acquisition of ships by Egypt were not disclosed, but according to French press reports, the contract value was about € 950 million. It was also pointed out that “the contract is mainly funded by Saudi Arabia”.

The second UDC (1020 Anwar al-Sadat) transmission is scheduled for September.


Egyptian Flag Raising Ceremony
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  1. Engineer
    Engineer 3 June 2016 13: 24
    -4
    The clouds over Israel are gathering ...
    1. Stalker.1977
      Stalker.1977 3 June 2016 13: 36
      +12
      Yes, there everyone will condense, the Egyptians are already negotiating with us for the supply of helicopters and equipment.
      1. SveTok
        SveTok 3 June 2016 14: 21
        +1
        It’s good that this tombstone that Serdyukov pushed through went to the Egyptians and the guests were full, and the money was safe.
        1. tiredwithall
          tiredwithall 3 June 2016 16: 13
          +2
          Quote: SveTok
          It’s good that this tombstone that Serdyukov pushed through went to the Egyptians and the guests were full, and the money was safe.

          Even the Egyptians will pay for equipment and helicopters.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 3 June 2016 19: 19
            -1
            Quote: tiredwithall
            Egyptians will pay for equipment and helicopters

            It’s time for ours to pick up equipment prices for these Mistrals! The boats are specific and nobody will make equipment for them except us!
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        3. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 3 June 2016 20: 22
          +1
          Quote: SveTok
          It’s good that this tombstone that Serdyukov pushed went to the Egyptians

          This "coffin" was praised here at one time ... Various arguments and arguments were presented why it is better than the same Spanish "Juan Carlos" ...
          The opportunists pancake ...
      2. RussianRoulette
        RussianRoulette 3 June 2016 14: 32
        +7
        It remains only to wish the new owners good luck.
      3. pofigist_26_rus
        pofigist_26_rus 3 June 2016 18: 04
        +1
        Say thanks to France for new contracts, more often so drinks
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 3 June 2016 20: 17
          +1
          Listen, dear ... For some reason it seems to me that the situation would be different and the article on the VO would be titled like "New Mistral-type large landing craft became part of the Russian Navy" you would sing differently ... I'm tired of this conformism.
          1. SergeyZ
            SergeyZ 3 June 2016 21: 24
            0
            My heart feels that the Egyptians will then fuse them to us, because it is painfully expensive for the Arab women to have such a pleasure, and there’s no reason
    2. gray smeet
      gray smeet 3 June 2016 13: 46
      +7
      Quote: Engineer
      The clouds over Israel are gathering ...


      Israel then what? Again shadows from the past? Come back in our time.
    3. CORNET
      CORNET 3 June 2016 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: Engineer
      The clouds over Israel are gathering ...

      Drown with pleasure .... bully But Hezbollah to them in the liver ... and our air defense in Syria!
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 3 June 2016 14: 40
      +9
      Now at least a refugee from Africa to Europe will be comfortably transported. laughing The ship must pay off.
    6. 3officer
      3officer 3 June 2016 14: 42
      +3
      Israel has already poked milen of bookmarks there, half of the Egyptian team has been recruited, their "Hydrometeorological Center" rarely gives inaccurate forecasts, there will be clouds and no rain.
    7. Artem25
      Artem25 3 June 2016 15: 18
      +1
      And how can these vessels threaten Israel?
  2. Skubudu
    Skubudu 3 June 2016 13: 24
    +1
    I wonder which helicopters are armed?
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 3 June 2016 13: 26
      +4
      there, changes were made regarding the original dimensions for our helicopters, so if you follow the logic winked
    2. Altona
      Altona 3 June 2016 14: 38
      -1
      Quote: Skubudu
      I wonder which helicopters are armed?

      ------------------
      And there are low hangars for our turntables. Others simply cannot be shoved. In general, they could resell one to us, but there probably is a "certificate of the final recipient" and all the cases. Still not a radish on the market.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 3 June 2016 15: 46
        +3
        There, not only turntables, but also under the Russian equipment and armament (avionics and air defense, for example), a ship was made. Therefore, it will have to be purchased. And where are these ships to Egypt request? Are you going to drive the pirates? Or maybe they will end up in the Russian Federation (for rent or for sale somehow; it is not without reason that the Saudis visited Moscow)?
        Well, I can’t imagine why Cairo has such ships, and even a couple !? The operation of such ships is expensive, and here the country is poor and others pay. They will rust in the parking lots if these monsters do not change their owners. And why the Saudis did not buy themselves - maybe they want Cairo to arm and equip Moscow with it, and then pick it up for themselves (do you want to buy from the Russians yourself?). Some suggestions and conjectures, but I doubt that the Egyptians themselves will actively exploit them. hi
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 3 June 2016 16: 23
          -2
          Quote: Kasym
          And where are these request ships to Egypt? Are you going to drive the pirates?

          They also have problems with terrorists.
          Quote: Kasym
          Or maybe they will still be in Russia

          It would be nice, but I doubt it.
  3. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 3 June 2016 13: 25
    +9
    France has taken so much precious time from Russia ...
    1. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 3 June 2016 13: 54
      +15
      "... Mama_Cholli (3) RU Today, 13:25 New
      France took so much precious time from Russia ....... "

      It's not just about time. I do not understand anything else. On all resources, in particular on Lenta and Vzglyad, they write that France paid compensation to the Russian Federation for the Mistrals. What the fuck is compensation ??? They simply returned the money previously paid by Russia. But no one paid the COMPENSATION for non-fulfillment of the terms of the contract, although I am sure that the contract initially contained penalties. "Where is the money, Zin ?? am "
      1. Hon
        Hon 3 June 2016 14: 05
        +1
        as agreed, so they compensated
      2. kepmor
        kepmor 3 June 2016 14: 30
        +9
        "... where is the money, Zin?"
        In ..op, in the same place where forgiven debts to everyone and everything for hundreds of billions of "green"!
        Still, our country is "very rich", or rather our "sun-like" rulers - forgive everyone and everything, and they themselves repay debts up to a cent and even with interest. Kuwait, for example, was fully returned!
        Oh, they would redirect their concern for aliens to us, miserable .... yes, do they need it?
        1. Altona
          Altona 3 June 2016 14: 40
          +4
          Quote: kepmor
          Still, our country is "very rich", or rather our "sun-like" rulers - forgive everyone and everything, and they themselves repay debts up to a cent and even with interest. Kuwait, for example, was fully returned!
          Oh, they would redirect their concern for aliens to us, miserable .... yes, do they need it?

          ---------------------
          Well, you are not going to join the "West" or join in like our "matsinal" elite. Hence all the concessions.
  4. Enoch
    Enoch 3 June 2016 13: 30
    +4
    The Franks sighed - at last the "rake" was attached.
  5. Olegmog
    Olegmog 3 June 2016 13: 36
    +5
    This rake, we would now be right in time ....!
  6. volodya
    volodya 3 June 2016 13: 38
    -1
    Yes, time is a pity, they themselves could build no worse.
    1. Hon
      Hon 3 June 2016 14: 05
      +2
      if you could, why not build?
      1. volodya
        volodya 3 June 2016 14: 36
        +2
        Because Serdyukov led with Vasilyeva!
        1. Hon
          Hon 4 June 2016 10: 25
          +1
          No longer leads for a long time, but nobody builds anything
  7. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 3 June 2016 13: 47
    +1
    Quote: Olegmog
    This rake, we would now be right in time ....!

    I'm not a sea - but in my opinion, this is a mass grave, not a ship ...
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 3 June 2016 14: 42
      +6
      Firstly, this is not a ship, but a ship.
      And in a real battle, any warship or submarine is a potential mass grave!
      If the surface troops have any chance of salvation, then the subfloor is absolutely miserable.
  8. Arkan
    Arkan 3 June 2016 13: 51
    +2
    Egypt transferred the first "Mistral"


    They don’t look a gift horse in the mouth, this is what the Saudis paid. Why do they need such an expensive toy, or go to the shores of America with an expedition? Okay, the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation will earn its money on the supply of helicopters, toppings and on-board aviation services.
    1. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 3 June 2016 13: 58
      +4
      This is for transporting illegal immigrants ...
    2. Manul
      Manul 3 June 2016 14: 35
      +3
      Quote: Arkan
      Why do they need such an expensive toy,

      Saudis with filing mattresses - to support Hollande. Otherwise, ordinary French (and other Europeans) would still be in full swing, and would worry about Russia. But they don’t need it.
  9. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 3 June 2016 13: 55
    -3
    Well, now Russia will install equipment and build helicopters developed by us for these ships. Our industry only wins in this matter. Our own will build it like that, because we have built hulls. There are technologies.
    1. Hon
      Hon 3 June 2016 14: 07
      +4
      not a little time has passed, and the vessels are not even laid down
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 June 2016 13: 55
    +2
    "If you want to ruin a small country, give it a cruiser!" Gave it. We look further. Now they will buy a helicopter group and equipment from us. The Saulites will, of course, pay. Well, then we'll see how the helicopters from these ships will support the landing on Riyadh.
  11. uav80
    uav80 3 June 2016 13: 55
    +1
    Quote: Olegmog
    This rake, we would now be right in time ....!

    IMHO: Ours from this contract got the technology and the best practices, if the fleet needed them, then they would start making copies themselves under the contract, it doesn’t get excited ... but apparently this was purely the idea of ​​a stool and he had something to do with the campaign. ..
    1. Hon
      Hon 3 June 2016 14: 09
      +3
      Quote: uav80
      Ours from this contract received technologies and developments

      and where are these technologies and developments?
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 3 June 2016 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: uav80
        . and so apparently it was purely the idea of ​​a stool and from this he had something to hike ...
        The purchase of a whole series of such powerful landing ships can in no way be the responsibility of the Minister of Defense alone. It doesn’t matter who suggested this idea, but in the course of developing and making a final decision on such a purchase, the contract goes through a series of substantiation and approval procedures. And the final decision is made VGK.
  12. Nross
    Nross 3 June 2016 14: 12
    +2
    I doubt that our defense industry will have a good margin from turntables. The Saudi House does not do charity work. And the terms of sale and terms of service are agreed in advance.
    Even if ours win the open tender (and it would be just an open purchase according to the European rules, because there wouldn’t be a sale at all), then in a big competition, where Sikorsky and Airbus squeeze into a deep minus, if only the Russians were underpaid ....
    Ours, too, can rest on their horns and go for the principle in order to win the customer (which is not very bad) and snatch the production capacities that are so necessary for the Russian Defense Ministry for the sake of international "prestige", promoted in the spirit of the clever move of Russian gunsmiths ...
    Rosoboronexpor will receive a medal from a potential customer, for which the USSR at one time lowered the billions in vain, and the MORF will not receive much-needed rotorcraft.

    If we recall the controversy surrounding the contracts for the Mistals while still having a heartache, then the above is quite possible. Victory may be pyrrhic.
  13. erik cartman
    erik cartman 3 June 2016 14: 22
    +1
    Quote: Stalker.1977
    Yes, there everyone will condense, the Egyptians are already negotiating with us for the supply of helicopters and equipment.

    As well as the crew and pilots at the same time. They can still take an amphibious group with equipment for rent. Already wrote, but I repeat
    , the name of the ship lacks 3 words - Hero of the Soviet Union, and then Gamal Abdel Nasser.
    1. Spitfire
      Spitfire 3 June 2016 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: erik cartman
      Quote: Stalker.1977
      Yes, there everyone will condense, the Egyptians are already negotiating with us for the supply of helicopters and equipment.

      As well as the crew and pilots at the same time. They can still take an amphibious group with equipment for rent. Already wrote, but I repeat
      , the name of the ship lacks 3 words - Hero of the Soviet Union, and then Gamal Abdel Nasser.


      But they called the second Saddat. And there is a version that he was also involved in the death of Nasser.
      1. Navuxonastupil
        Navuxonastupil 3 June 2016 15: 10
        +2
        Well the Bedouins called the ship! Already once Gamal Abdelna - us - Nasser .. History repeats itself ...
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        2. creak
          creak 3 June 2016 19: 02
          -1
          Quote: Navuxonastupil
          Already once Gamal Abdelna - us - Nasser .. History repeats itself ...


          Under Nasser, relations with Egypt were up to the mark, without any problems ...
          I know this from personal experience - during this period I was on a special business trip in Egypt through the Ministry of Defense - the attitude towards us with him was the warmest ...
          Relations with the USSR were practically curtailed under his successor, Sadat - no need to repeat all sorts of fables and jokes ...
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 3 June 2016 14: 49
      +2
      God bless us from such heroes ...
  14. 3officer
    3officer 3 June 2016 14: 39
    +6
    The tale of how the French managed one cow to sell the barrel two times! hi
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 3 June 2016 14: 54
      0
      The Jews were definitely jealous of this "divorce" on the grandmother!
  15. cccr51
    cccr51 3 June 2016 15: 28
    +1
    And this, and what will the Papuans do with it?
    1. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 3 June 2016 15: 39
      +4
      If in Israel Akhzarit made TBTR from T-55, then 2 Death Stars will be made of Mistral?
      Joke! fellow tongue
  16. mamont5
    mamont5 4 June 2016 07: 10
    -1
    Quote: SveTok
    It’s good that this tombstone that Serdyukov pushed through went to the Egyptians and the guests were full, and the money was safe.

    Okay, of course. That's just not clear "on the fig goat button accordion", i.e. "Mistral" to Egypt ???
  17. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 5 June 2016 03: 05
    0
    Quote: Nross
    Sikorsky and Airbus will shrink into a deep minus-if only the Russians were underpaid ....

    And to give this contract to Sikorsky ... while the Mistrals are developed and delivered, major repairs will be required.
    1. Nross
      Nross 30 June 2016 18: 37
      0
      In this case, the main goal is to decentralize the efforts of the Russian military-industrial complex to various dubious projects. The Egyptian Mistral will be a good example for this if my fears come true.

      In military affairs, there is the concept of effective deterrence of an external threat. For different levels of technology, these proportions are different, but when technologically opponents are at approximately equal levels, the proportion of effective deterrence is somewhere around 1/3. 1 - Russia, 3 - NATO + China countries.
      Now the imbalance of forces is significantly different from 1/3, despite the fact that NATO is approx. 2500 thousand versus 700 for Russia, which theoretically maintains parity, but not the level of equipment with modern aircraft and military equipment, nor the training of soldiers and officers, not to mention the infrastructure. And this is without the Chinese threat, which can never be attributed, because they are, although already obstinate, but still a vassal of the United States.

      In the case of export contracts, the current leadership has drawn a very fine line: not to lose export markets for military products and equipping (under-equipping) their own army and navy. As they say - and you want and prick.