Ukrainian expert: The new Tirex tank will appear in Ukraine before the end of the year

If the power of the Ukrainian army was measured in the statements of Ukrainian experts reporting on the progress of military-technical developments, then the APU would have long been the most powerful army of the Universe. So, the information portal "Apostrophe" publishes a statement to the chief editor of the magazine Defense Express Sergei Zgurts, who spoke in the spirit that in Ukraine in the near future the Tireks tank, created by the so-called scientific and technical division of Azov, will be commissioned. In Kiev, they consider "Tireks" the Ukrainian equivalent of "Almaty".

Sergey Zgurets:

He ("analogue of" Almaty ") will appear much faster than the strike drone, which the leadership of the country speaks of. I know the situation - the documentation is almost ready, issues with the Ministry of Defense are being resolved. This will be one of the modernization projects. tank T-64 According to my calculations, this work will end before the end of this year, if external factors do not affect it, because there are other projects - simpler, but less effective. I believe that the Tirex option is optimal. It will have an uninhabited tower, qualitatively enhanced protection and a new fire control system comparable to the Oplot tank, whose future is still very difficult. Due to these decisions, we will get a tank comparable to the tanks of our probable enemy. The main problem is that our units can fight at night and be protected. Tank "Bulat" performs this function only partially.

When it came to the obstacles that could prevent the Ukrainian Armed Forces from receiving Tireks before the end of the year, Denis Popovich, the journalist of the Apostroph, “prompted” Zgurts that this may not be “the law on 2 returning billions of dollars from Yanukovich’s assets to Ukraine” . Zgurets hurried to agree with this ...

I also talked about how to deal with the cracks in the armor of Dozor-B armored cars that had been revealed earlier. According to Zgurts, "the situation is in question."

Zgurets:

But for me the situation with the “Watch” is important from the point of view of the need to be able to draw conclusions from their mistakes. If we don’t learn this using the example of Dozor, we will not be able to produce other equipment. (...) Although we have a general understanding of what to do with armor, if only because we produce a large number of armored personnel carriers.

Comments

[Thunderbolt]

So far, even "Rex" is not drawn

[The black]

Here, the article can be commented on by the first sentence of the author himself:

If the power of the Ukrainian army was measured in the statements of Ukrainian experts reporting on the progress of military-technical developments, then the APU would have long been the most powerful army of the universe

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Black

the most powerful army of the universe

Before the Universe, as well as before the first flight into space, at least the monkey they would not soon at such a pace, BUT:
“... We stopped the largest army on the continent, restored the Armed Forces of Ukraine, liberated 2/3 of the Donbass and created a powerful coalition in the world ...” P.A. Poroshenko wrote in his twitter
some merits are behind them In general, the universe is in good hands.

[The black]

about the Universe, as well as before the first flight into space, at least for a monkey they would not soon at such a rate, BUT:
“... We stopped the largest army on the continent, restored the Armed Forces of Ukraine, liberated 2/3 of the Donbass and created a powerful coalition in the world ...” P.A. Poroshenko wrote in his twitter
some merits behind them are lol Generally, the Universe is in good hands.

Well, what, I really like the scope of Ukrainian thought. There is nothing to exchange nonsense. Go to space. Dukes - a lot of heroes divorced, hand out spyglasses and sticks. Let them look for Russian satellites in the sky and scare them with sticks. Everything in business ..... Well, Poros’s statement is a binge. To see May Day I got drunk a lot

[Darkmor]

The concept of a new super tank and I can write.
Moreover, I do not exclude that he will be even better than what the Ukrainian brethren did.
Problems will begin at the stage of creating the prototype - a bunch of flaws, inconsistencies, and technical problems will come out. It will take years to eliminate them.
Then, when this model ceases to even fall apart when moving, the question of optimization and price will arise - how to make its mass production as cheap and efficient as possible - it will take another years.
As a result, the more complex the machine, the longer it will take the development cycle from concept to serial launch.

The Ukrainians have made a concept, and now some "expert" authoritatively declares that "everything will be chiki-bunches" - the great Ukroboronprom will give birth to a brilliant tank without complications and flaws, right on the assembly line. Yeah, schazzz - you will dress him in an embroidered shirt, for the sake of greater luck.

The situation with the same "patrols" - if the car had passed the normal cycle of tests - no cracks would have come out after a week of driving. But with an armored vehicle, everything is extremely simple - you only need to provide an engine of sufficient power, and a supporting base of sufficient strength. For the rest, fantasize as you want - at least stick the tower from the APC on top.
But even in this relatively simple task, the Ukrainians managed to do something wrong. And how many jambs will crawl out for such a complex machine as a battle tank, I will not even dare to imagine.

So, I don't know what kind of "experts" they have there with insider information, but they would drive such experts with a nasty broom, for the sake of the future of their country ...

[just exp]

but they already have experience. for example, Tirex will have an uninhabited tower. and experience in using such they have. for example, Porosyonko has a long uninhabited tower.
and the case will be old anyway.

[Larra anathema]

Quote: just explo

for example, Porosenko has a long uninhabited tower

Just fine said))))

[Pereira]

I’ll develop a thought.
Each hero to issue a document on the right to own a planet in the universe.
When in the next decade the outskirts will go into space, they will populate them on the basis of frequent property rights, build pigsties ....

[Prokop]

There is a good Ukrainian saying "duren dumkoyu bagatie", which is more relevant than ever with regard to Ukraine in general and ukroarmii in particular.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Prokop

There is a good Ukrainian saying "duren dumkoyu bagatie",

Honestly, I don't even see a reason to discuss another fantasy, some citizens of Ukraine, I think our designers have been going for several years to create the Armata, but Ukrainian engineers baked again in "Azov" like in a joke about a warrant officer who has a salaga at the railway station asks, but the truth is Comrade. ensign can you do anything? P. yes I can do everything. S. Can you stop the train going? P. easily, turning to the moving train, yells, train, stop, one or two. So it is here. Bad thought is rich.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Prokop

we get a tank comparable to the tanks of our potential enemy

So you think they are fools, under-engineers. Maybe it is so. Or maybe not at all. I have my opinion on this subject, but it has nothing to do with the matter.

However, the essence of the statement of this very Sergei Zgurts is not at all to scare or ridicule us with some "Tirex" (they, by the way, have died out). The bottom line is this:

... we get a tank comparable to tanks our probable adversary...

What tanks are you talking about? About Armata. Who is the likely adversary? We.
That is actually the purpose of this statement. Russia is a likely adversary. Only an idiot is not yet clear that a scam with an alleged war against the Russian invaders has failed. It is obvious that the Buryat armored armies and the clouds of the Pskov paratroopers are no longer impressive.
A new goal was announced - preparation for the fight against a probable (I emphasize - probable!) Enemy - with Russia. Anyone seriously thinking about the possibility of producing some kind of "Tirex"? Yes, they ATGMs of their own (I emphasize - their own) development cannot be washed down. What is there an ATGM? Even the cannons can't. The KBA-3 gun turned out to be ts. plasticine. Resource 200-300 shots!
On the old Omsk 2A46 of the 1970 of the year, the resource is 600 shots. Now on 2А46М - 1200.
The conclusion from this is very simple. The article is not at all about the audacity of the engineering of the Ukrainian defense industry, but about preparing its own population for a war with Russia as if almost the date of the collision had already been set.
And do not care that the Ukrainians (including both Russian Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians) will be packs, sorry for cynicism, turn into burnt and torn scraps. The goal is not to win. The goal is to annoy the enemy.

ZY Strange brand managers in Ukraine. Tanks are extinct dinosaurs. Cyborg-coffins in the film environment are certainly formidable, but everything is basically a negative hero, an antagonist to man. Armored car - "worth", cost, weight. By the way, in Tajik is "abyss".
Right some cult shushpanzerov and shushpanchiki.

[shuhartred]

Quote: Shuttle

I have my opinion on this subject, but it has nothing to do with the matter.

Can you develop a theme? I don’t have my own opinion on this issue (lack of information and education). It would be interesting to hear yours.

Quote: Shuttle

The conclusion from this is very simple. The article is not at all about the audacity of the engineering of the Ukrainian defense industry, but about preparing its own population for a war with Russia as if almost the date of the collision had already been set.

So it has long been clear to everyone.

[Pereira]

If the "Aydar" battalion has its own research institute, why not have an armored plant attached to it?
I don't think they will stop there. Next in line is "Tisokil" - a 5th generation super-maneuverable fighter based on the An-70 with an uninhabited cockpit.

[dmi.pris1]

Did the editor of the magazine say this? The paper (toilet) will endure everything ..

[vkl.47]

all khokhlyatsky worse than Chinese

[i80186]

Well, here it’s more likely that a modern version of thyrex will work out, like this.

[Alexey-74]

Precisely noticed .....

[Revolver]

Quote: i80186

Well, here it’s more likely that a modern version of thyrex will work out, like this.

This one, on the right, looks like a deputy for the sake of feces.

[Prokop]

Quote: Thunderbolt

So far, even "Rex" is not drawn

There is even a "pug", as before Kueva crustaceans.

[BARKAS]

Who painted this tank why an uninhabited tower ejector?

[Felix99]

Quote: BARKAS

Who painted this tank why an uninhabited tower ejector?

In order not to scrape soot and soot from the combat unit with a toothbrush and soap.

[lysyj bob]

Quote: BARKAS

why uninhabited tower ejector?

Commander, operator and mech-water. in an armored capsule. Then what is the name of the one in the tower behind the machine gun? To the same on the gun loading line. Have they even considered the lineup?

[Evpatiy.]

No need to suggest solutions to them! They can use it!

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Tse stichovy strilets. He sits on top in a basket, because the tower is uninhabited.
And they need an ejector because they have no confidence in the tightness of the partition between the automatic loader and the "habitable module".
But you don’t have to worry about the change in the balance of forces due to the appearance of this machine: the fighting compartment is designed for a crew up to 140 cm tall. And there are not many of these in Ukropia.

[Amurets]

Quote: BARKAS

Who painted this tank why an uninhabited tower ejector?

To clear the budget and developers of money. Let them work for a fool, with bad ideas.

[NEXUS]

Quote: BARKAS

Who painted this tank why an uninhabited tower ejector?

Vyser of Ukrainian EXPERDS is ridiculous in the root ... The phrase-

based on the T-64

clearly shows who is XU.
Armata was created from scratch, and here they’re trying to make a future tank out of 64. Assuming that if you put an uninhabited tower on the T-64 platform, you will get a tank no worse than Armata at the exit. By this logic, all the states that create their own clinical tanks go .. you! It’s so simple, but the Germans didn’t finish the mattresses!

[siberalt]

Dreaming is not bad, but before that, three billion Basques of Russia will have to be returned

[Amurets]

Quote: siberalt

Dreaming is not bad, but before that, three billion Basques of Russia will have to be returned

And what kind of Basques, Spanish? And where to get so many Basques?

[Vend]

Will definitely appear. There are still enough plastics and superglue in Ukraine. Get such a cool model on the shelf.

[Ramzaj99]

Ukrainian expert: The new Tirex tank will appear in Ukraine before the end of the year

Recently, I perceive all the news from Nezalezhnaya as a humorous program. And the phrase "Ukrainian expert" in general, causes Homeric laughter .....

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

They simply have a shorter planning horizon. It remains only 3 months to exist, so they write until the end of the year ...

[st25310]

A bold attempt to port World of Tanks to current reality should arouse the interest of psychiatrists and narcologists.
Ukrainian eSports team Natus Vincere has won the World of Tanks World Championship. We congratulate the guys on this achievement, but we sincerely ask that if you became a freelance consultant for the Azov engineering group to develop the Tirex tank, then it is not too late to jump off this failed project. Such suspicions creep in because this same tank is named after an extinct predator with a brain the size of a walnut.

[vodolaz]

They need to cooperate with the Poles, they are also "developing" the PL-01 with might and main.

[Volga Cossack]

appears ......... as a layout. and everything stalls. but overpowered. or the story with the Watch will be repeated ...... then - zrada.

[Magic archer]

Yeah. I wouldn’t make fun of them, clowns. Just read the text and understand HOW CAN YOU MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Magic Archer

HOW CAN I MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

An analogue is possible - the figure shows! Probably from the dwarfs the crews will recruit. Otherwise, how else will three more people get into the armored capsule, which is planned instead of the current location of the driver?
I would like to answer the Ukrainian iksperd: "Zgurets, pine cucumbers!"

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Magic Archer

HOW CAN I MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

Easy! -Just do T 64 and change its name, then a bunch of reports that this is the best tank in the world. Everything is done, you can go to sleep

[hrapon]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Magic Archer

HOW CAN I MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

Easy! -Just do T 64 and change its name, then a bunch of reports that this is the best tank in the world. Everything is done, you can go to sleep

Yes Yes. And more video intercoms for a XNUMX-degree view of the tank, so that you can demoralize the enemy with yells: "SUGS".

[Felix99]

On-door speakerphones are superfluous. They will use crew smartphones with the WOT-BLIZ version loaded on them

[Felix99]

The essence of Armata is not only in the remote control module, but also in advanced active protection technologies. You can use the chassis of the T-64, but the crew will be crowded.

[Amurets]

Quote: Felix99

The essence of Armata is not only in the remote control module, but also in advanced active protection technologies. You can use the chassis of the T-64, but the crew will be crowded.

In crowded but not mad.

[just exp]

European values ​​will be used there. so that such crowding will only be to their pleasure.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Magic Archer

Yeah. I wouldn’t make fun of them, clowns. Just read the text and understand HOW CAN YOU MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

Elementary Watson! The main thing is that there would be enough garbage bins ...

[avvg]

They even "Oplot", for several years they have not been able to bring to mind, the "miracle tank" causes a lot of complaints from those who bought it.

[ovod84]

Hmm, a beautiful photo, and a good fairy tale for the Ukrainians themselves, we are waiting for a new invention from the descendants of ancient ukrov. You know where the Caspian Sea came from, so I’ll tell you a secret, when the Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, then at the place where they rested the sea appeared.

[Wolka]

just ukrohotelki, and nothing more ...

[Bronik]

Tirex is a tyrannosaurus. Being explored from the ancient world. Or did it turn out to be a zombie?

[crumb]

do you think that they are working to revive the dinosaurs ?????? Tirex is a weapon of ancient ukrov - with which they conquered the whole world !!!!!

[inkass_98]

Quote: croche

Tirex is a weapon of ancient ukrov

In this statement, you surpassed even the ancient ukrov themselves: they have 140 years of their "civilization", and all kinds of "saurus" died out 000 years ago. The problem turns out .

[igorka357]

Vascheto "Tirex" is a detergent

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: igorka357

Vascheto "Tirex" is a detergent

actually, this means to clean the sewer ...

[koksalek]

Aha, Tirex with vertical take-off, supersonic speed and with a one-time scuba diving at 2 meters

[Mikhail m]

As you call a yacht, so it will sail. Tirex, according to recent reports, was not a predator, but a scavenger. Weak forepaws could not hold the prey.
And here is a picture from World of Tanks. FV 214 "Conqueror" - "Conqueror" - British heavy tank of the 1950s. It looks like a source of inspiration for Ukrainian designers. Even a basket for collecting trophies is.

[igorka357]

According to what data it is interesting, tyrannosaurs have very powerful hind limbs, what do you think for what ... yes, in order to catch and catch prey! Very powerful jaws that would immediately break her spine when captured! Tyrannosaurus was not going to keep trying to escape prey in the front paws, he grabbed the prey with his jaws, and the prey had no chance of resistance! He doesn’t need forelegs in principle! Mother nature is counting on one hundred percent, but she’s a little out of luck with the man!

[inkass_98]

You can find a lot of analogies (AMX-50, for example, or the Austrian "Cuirassier"), but all of them look like "a swine yak like a horse" to "Armata".

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Mikhail M

Mikhail m

Quote: igorka357

igorka357

1 Account: 1. The tyrannosaurus was an opportunist

the debate about whether the tyrannosaurus was a full-fledged hunter and super-predator or scavenger was one of the most intense and protracted in the history of paleontology. Now most experts believe that the tyrannosaurus was opportunistic predator - could both hunt and eat carrion

[Hlavaty]

Quote: Thunderbolt

1 Account: 1. The tyrannosaurus was an opportunist

It's a stone's throw from the separatist

[Felix99]

A basket for firewood and coke, on which Watt's advanced engine runs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BC%
D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0#.D0.98.D0.B7.D0.BE.D0.B1.D1.80.D0.B5.D1.82.D0.B5.D
0.BD.D0.B8.D0.B5_.D0.B8_.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B2.D0.B8.D1.82.D0.B8.D0.B5

[inferno_nv]

Well, someone in the basics in WOT outplayed!))))

[mamont5]

And not tired of them ...
And where will the trunks be taken (there is a problem with them on the Ruin), other components (they got it from Russia, there has never been a closed production cycle at the Ruin), and most importantly, production (which was practically destroyed by the Maidan) and money (without which, as without water "neither there nor syudy").

[Vadim237]

The trunks will be taken from the bush, the picture itself tells you - the tower is uninhabited, and the gun has an ejector

[Nix1986]

Ukraine has been replaced by an amazing state, corruption power has been replaced by a revolution with corruption, when you need to think hard how to get out of the big and dark economy, the main concern is all sorts of ersatz projects in the defense industry, it’s like 42 years in the yard and the Nazis are on the threshold when neighbors send them Each month, convoys from humanitarian-these neighbors are considered the main enemies, and in the capital, a boxer who can’t say a word of more than 8 letters normally can not even be governor of a tie-jack in Odessa. In general, the author Pinocchio looked into the future with a strange fool, did not know the truth as it is called, but now everything has fallen into place.

[ovod84]

This is all nonsense, whether they want to produce a mriya plane, then a tank or a three-wheeled tusik, it would be better if this money was swelled for the production of a bulwark or damask steel, but the best option was used for salaries for people.

[aba]

Quote: Black

Here, the article can be commented on by the first sentence of the author himself:

In Ukraine, there are already no financial, technical and human opportunities for full-scale serial production. There were only masters of presentations.
For the entire 14 and for the entire 15 year, less than 10 cars were produced in Ukraine annually. This includes trucks, buses and cars. And what can we say about tanks ?!

[Viktor fm]

I know why they don’t get the technique. They forget to attach forelocks to their products.

[vanavatny]

t 64 with an uninhabited tower? and who lives in the tower designers?

[Varyag15]

only yesterday they cited the deputy’s statement, there is no money for defense orders. And suddenly, an analogue of Almaty. Wonderful things in Ukraine

[Holsten]

Nobody, I see, takes taming seriously, but in vain: After all, they will sit down at AutoCAD and draw something even worse. It would be necessary to give them an idea about an underground boat of a new generation, of course, and that by all means "stealth" - otherwise the Kremlin would not be undermined.

[Whack]

And yet, you can upgrade the T34, T-26, etc. The list is large, and names can not be given at all.

[Dimy4]

And yet, you can upgrade the T34, T-26 ...

ZAZ 968, the engine is behind, it remains only to attach a tower and a caterpillar track. It will be fun.

[Egoza]

Earlier, Ukrainian media reported that one of the armored vehicles literally cracked at the seams - went cracked in the armored plates. At the same time, the mileage of the damaged car did not exceed hundreds of kilometers.
http://politikus.ru/uploads/posts/2016-06/1464896499_2.jpg
Zgurets said that Ukrainian developers need to take their mistakes into account when developing Dozor-B, because otherwise in the country will not be able to learn how to produce other equipment
dddd
That will be the same with the tank. And the Ministry of Defense and Ukroboronprom shrug their hands and say that the problem is complex and goes beyond their capabilities

[staryivoin]

Quote: Magic Archer

HOW CAN I MAKE ANALOGU TO ARMATE ON THE T-64 BASIS? !!)))))))

I support it with both hands. In their own language there is a saying - "don't say gop until you skochish ..."

[sgr291158]

There is no money, but fairy tales are written with enviable speed.

[vanavatny]

now it’s fashionable to say this: there is no money, but you hold on there

[gla172]

Here a couple of months ago there was an article about the Polish concept ... here’s a similar tower from it, and the body is a cross between the BMD and the same T 64 (it feels like they have everything based on 64-ki), the frontal armor is only from a different angle .. .

[Angara]

the most powerful army of the universe

Death star and pepelats with a gravitsapa in the studio

[Chulman]

Ohohooshki ho ho ...... I do not have time to cry ... from laughter from their ideas and thoughts ...

[Mountain shooter]

Yes, let them amuse themselves. There they have already forgotten how to cook and roll the armor, but there too. Cracks in the armor - they are not only from a violation of technology, but also from a violation of the composition of steel. The video system of the new tank will probably be assembled from Chinese video cameras from intercoms, what else is there? Probably the armored hull needs to be redesigned? And who else can do it? Yes, well, bullshit, and they called it "Tyrex". Wet night mriyas ...

[Russia]

According to my calculations, this work will end before the end of this year, if not affected by external factors,

And "inside" everything is good! There is money, the economy is on the rise. Only here m .. or damned ruin everything as always!
In advance ...

[Denis DV]

This will be one of the T-64 tank modernization projects.

After reading the headline, the first thing that came to mind was another mockery of our 64th. And so it turned out!

[avg-mgn]

Yesterday we discussed here the topic of stopping financing of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, so why make confusion in the brain. All under the cloth and for a long time.

[awg75]

after this great nation dug the Black Sea and completely betrayed its entire history, I am not surprised at anything.

[wandlitz]

The new tank is not inferior to the "Armata" is cool.
I now understand why there is no money in Krajin for the repair and modernization of the remaining T64 and T72 tanks from the Union.
Accumulate finances for the mass production of "Tirex" and "Mriya".
Question: by how many lyam will Potroshenko’s income and those close to his person increase ???

[Abbra]

I go nuts ... I would be extremely surprised if in twenty years not Tirex appears, but at least "ks" from him ...

[demo]

"... I believe that the Tirex variant is optimal. It will have an uninhabited turret, improved protection and a new fire control system comparable to the Oplot tank, whose future is still very difficult ..."

Soon Krajina will become uninhabited, because her future is very difficult!

Oh, and amused in the morning!
And then in our Kuban for a week it rains, as if from a bucket. Sadly.

[Alex von Dorn]

Maybe something will be "invented". Maybe this something will be worthy of attention, but there will be nothing to produce this "miracle".

[Barakuda]

Old frames on Malyshev will be able to create another prototype (still remained). And then pension, well, nafig, longing for the USSR. Bullshit in one word.

[evil partisan]

I propose to start sending the mounting foam to the Tirex manufacturer in advance - to foam the cracks in the armor. And they (cracks) will definitely be there . Cracks in the armor - this is now such a trademark of ukrobronetekhniki. Fashion, so to speak. And what: there are jeans with holes. So why can't armored personnel carriers and tanks with holes be?

[Eustace]

Since mid-April, the Ukrainian government has suspended funding for defense orders due to lack of funds, this was neither in the past nor the year before last, TASS reports the deputy of the Rada from the Batkivshchyna party, chairman of the defense committee Sergei Pashinsky.

I want to remind you that since April 15, financing of the defense order has actually been suspended due to lack of funds. This is a catastrophe. This was neither in 2014 nor in 2015, "
said Pashinsky.

“We are talking about the absence of 3,6 billion hryvnia (about 144 million dollars), which should go to finance weapons and repair equipment,” he said.

In this regard, according to him, “the committee appealed to Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman with a demand to pay attention to the critical situation that has developed today with the financing of the defense order”.

“The issue of changes to the budget falls within the competence of the Prime Minister, these are his official duties, so we turned to him today. I hope we will reach out to the prime minister, he will find the necessary funds, introduce the corresponding bill in the session hall, and the bill will be supported, ”Pashinsky added.
http://topwar.ru/96174-deputat-vr-kiev-ostanovil-finansirovanie-oboronzakaza-eto
-katastrofa.html

The expert is apparently not aware of funding problems. In Ukraine there is no money even for the repair of military equipment. Again, they wishful thinking, they throw dust in their eyes. Our "Armata" will soon go into service, and Ukrainians are all dreaming.

[SerB60]

Quote: dmi.pris

Did the editor of the magazine say this? The paper (toilet) will endure everything ..

Paper and drafts still remain, but money and turners, locksmiths, milling machines, electronics engineers, gunsmiths and others are already dumb.))

[megafair]

Coming soon in the news:

Quote: UkroSMI

By the end of the year, the construction of the new flagship of the fifth galactic squadron based near the star Sirius is expected. It is expected that the Emperor of the Galaxy Petro Poroshenko will arrive at the ceremony.

In general - insanity grew stronger

[bolyasnikov evgenij]

fairy tales again!

[Forest]

In 64 for a driver’s mechanical drive on the bottom, where is there another 2 person to put?

[Jamuqa]

But what about this?

[Vadim237]

But it’s interesting - in practice, this armored capsule was actually tested during the explosion of an ammunition load, but it is hardly believed that even a 500 mm armored can withstand an explosion of 120 kilograms of TNT.

[XODOP]

boiling energy people, and when they only have time!

[Victor-M]

Something from the category

[Ruswolf]

They love to be praised and admired. So they make various statements so that they don’t forget about them - the Great ones! ..... Either engines for missiles, then airplanes, now tanks .... They cannot boast of their heads. even that which was good came under decommunization.

[JonnyT]

tank frankenstein will
the case will be made of several cases from 64 and scalded with ordinary steel, everywhere they come across cameras from the intercom.
The main thing is to growl louder and cut money

[Vasyan1971]

"According to my calculations, this work will be completed by the end of this year, if external factors do not affect ...".
Ingenious! Iron excuse!
Factors are different. Instead of finance - dul. The Chinese intercoms in the warehouse have run out. In the end, all the "almost finished documentation" on the eve of the launch of production was stolen by the evil Putin. But you never know ...

[lex loci]

Why in a serious society discuss fantastic projects. Ordinary manilovism, and people are eagerly knocking on the keyboard discussing the floodlights of the gray gelding ...

[kunstkammer]

where will the money come from for such a tank?
I believe Gref will help with his Russian Sberbank. Although I doubt very much whether it is Russian?
Sberbank does not want to go to Russian Crimea to work. And in Ukraine, feeding Russian money to the killers of Donbass children is always welcome. With great pleasure Gref and other great figures of our time.
Stalin ... Stalin ... maybe he was right? Well, it’s impossible in Russia without this. It hurts too much scum different.

[Sergey-8848]

Drawings of this tank and even a whole line of armored (on paper) equipment developed by someone from Azov who can draw are presented on the AI ​​website. For an alternative history, this is all just right, but not for existing reality.

[Lanista]

What can I say?
Ukrainian schoolchildren conscientiously copied the layout of the "Armata", without bothering to read about the "Armata" even in the section "Performance characteristics: vehicle dimensions". Because the Armata body is a product developed from scratch, and not a modernization of the T-64-72-80 line. Of course, it is possible to fit an armored capsule for three people into the dimensions of the existing T-64 hull, but this armored capsule will only protect against chewed paper shells fired from a distance of more than 200m. I'm not talking about the violation of the mass centering of the body during such a modification (and, accordingly, about the service life of the idler and the front roller, especially since this is the 64th with its innate chassis problems).
But it's beautifully drawn. Perhaps aesthetics is the only spoon of honey in this tank of Ukrainian thought. However, you can enjoy this aesthetic only by temporarily forgetting about the engineering aspects.

[GOGY]

Why is it so small - a tank, even a T-Rex, is too banal for the great Ukraine, to build, then immediately a Death Star, well, a couple of more cruisers, the Star Destroyer class, and Russia will be crying on its knees... Yes, wonderful your works, Lord...

[Berg berg]

Out of 20 old ones we will make one new one, said Potrashenko!

[Vadim237]

Yes, redo it, don’t redo it - the total for this tank - on the T 64 platform, will be the same for both the old and the new layout -

[air wolf]

Acho, well done, the deep modernization of the T-64 is doing its job, I believe that ours on the T-90 could have made an uninhabited turret and placed a partition between the turret and the crew located in front, the crew can be reduced to two people.

[persei]

this tank should be called by the name of the magazine..."Catastrophe"

[Egor-dis]

They just came up with a new trick that you can use to fuck and cut your money. They don’t give money for the ATO, there’s nothing to cut, so you can ask for “modernization of the army”, and even if they don’t give it, with such and such a “probable enemy”. And by the end of the year they will present a “concept” made of plywood covered with tin. Everyone who needs it will pose for the camera in front of him, and then it will be possible to drag out and save money for years to create a “working prototype”, “for sea/combat tests” and so on. Moreover, without any risks. Because Ukraine will collapse much earlier, and accordingly there will be no one to ask. Or, the budget will simply run out of money for this project - also a guaranteed excuse.

[Shuttle]

Quote: shuhartred

Quote: Shuttle

I have my opinion on this subject, but it has nothing to do with the matter.

Can you develop a theme? I don’t have my own opinion on this issue (lack of information and education). It would be interesting to hear yours.

Engineering culture flourishes where it is supported.
We only support it in the defense industry. For the Americans - in the civilian sector. The Ukrainians gave up on her. That's where she went sour. Gone. Extinct. Individual outbreaks still occur, but they no longer bring the same results as before. The Paton Institute tried to improve the gun for Oplot and make the barrel more wear-resistant. They added their 20-30% and that’s it. Because they are not gunsmiths. And for a good gun you need gunsmiths. But they are not there. Why? For the above reason. They do not support engineering culture. Here the specialists in Paton, in Yuzhmash, at the Malyshev plant and kirdyk will live out their lives. It's no joke - they can't bring the Oplot tank to fruition. He already has a 120 mm cannon with NATO ammunition, and already he can dance with a tambourine. And the Asians don’t want him either. There is no engineering culture.
By the way, the first sign of its absence is that the results become ugly from an aesthetic point of view. Look at the Aidar shushpanzer. Initially, it looks more like a group hearse rather than a combat vehicle. Even the M113 is a beauty in comparison. Look at the Abrams, the T-72/T-90, the Armata, the Leopards. Beautiful! Even Merkava. And look at the Stronghold. The same 64, all in some kind of rubber, with a turret that is not tall enough. Just like Indian Arjun. Basically the same idea, only on the T-72 chassis (I could be wrong).
And, of course, the team. Engineering team. This is generally a unique thing. He is much more fragile and tender than each of his members. And therefore, an engineering team is not always born. And he is also the first to die. Especially when the crop of engineers is no longer cultivated. So, taken individually, they can be very, very brainy. That's not all. Culture is required. Well, financing is an expression of the will of the customer.

[RUSIVAN]

Ukrainian expert: The new Tirex tank will appear in Ukraine before the end of the year
Oh, these Ukrainian experts, I thought they had enough imagination for more, for example, “Ukraine is going to build a Death Star by the end of the year.”

[Sakkai]

the crew says 3 and in the picture 2, where is the third one?

[Bosk]

If I’m not mistaken, during the time of the Union in Ukraine, the “Bulldog” project was in development (I could be wrong with the name), it seemed to be a deep modernization of the T-64 and the main feature was an uninhabited tower, and after the collapse of the Union, Ukraine kept the documentation for itself... and now I wonder if they want to revive it in an updated form... the car seemed to be very promising and the best specialists of the Union worked on it...