Accidents of two airplanes of different aerobatic teams in the USA

The US Air Force F-16 fighter crashed during a demonstration flight over the Air Force Academy in Colorado. This is reported by the American media. It is reported that the aircraft participated in a demonstration flight on the day of release at the academy. It is noteworthy that President Barack Obama attended the ceremony in Colorado.

Aircraft F-16, collapsed during the demonstration flight, was part of the aerobatic team "Thunderbirds". On Twitter, the aerobatic team published information that the F-16 pilot, the US Air Force Major Alex Turner had time to eject. According to information from the academy in Colorado, there is no threat to the pilot's life.

As a result of the fall of the aircraft, none of those who were on the ground was injured.

Flight aerobatic team suspended. An investigation into the causes of the catastrophe of the American fighter.

This is not the only military plane crash that occurred in the United States the day before. American TV channel KKTV11 reports that the F / A-18 aircraft of the Blue Angel aerobatic team, which is structurally part of the US Navy, crashed in Tennessee. The plane fell near the city of Smyrna. The pilot of the aircraft performing the training flight to participate in the airshow, the captain of the US Navy Jeff Kewse died.

Five other aircraft of the same aerobatic team safely returned to the home airfield.

Comments

[Dmitry Potapov]

We all walk under God! Native pilots, condolences!

[The black]

Promotion from the pentagon. Need money to cut. But what about ?! Airplanes are falling, old .... Two airplanes per day is dashing. I am writing without gloating. Just a statement of fact.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Black

.Two planes per day is famously

Especially from the aerobatic teams, where, by definition, the best pilots. Something is amiss in Danish kingdom of america ...

[insular]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Something is amiss in the Danish American kingdom ...

Coincidence? A systemic crisis in aviation services? Systemic crisis in pilot training? Sabotage?

[andrey777]

Quote: insular

Coincidence? A systemic crisis in aviation services? Systemic crisis in pilot training? Sabotage?

This is Putin's fault.

[insular]

Quote: andrey777

This is Putin's fault.

Yes, it’s clear who else

Personally, I generally do not care what they really happened there. Aircraft crashed, it happens. Relatives of the pilot - condolences. And let the competent authorities establish the reasons, and not the advocates of conspiracy theories and fatalists on the Internet.

PS only the pros and cons, then for what? I didn’t say anything, I just asked what Ami du people think could be wrong in the American kingdom?
It seems to me that some monkey themes read and just poke the pros / cons out of place ... Just to poke.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: insular

what does Ami du people think may be wrong in the American kingdom?

Who knows .. But the fact that from your assumptions you can safely sweep away the version of sabotage (oops! Pun intended! ) - definitely.

[igog]

Well, the pros due to impartiality, in my opinion

[igordok]

Often I poke the pros, saying thank you for the information received. Sometimes when mournful, very difficult information is neither a plus nor a minus.

[g1v2]

Less two - a good week. More will be broken - fewer of our pilots will be killed if the war begins.

[R2D2]

Exactly) damned

[igog]

well, if on urkain-dvotsotppudovo

[Dam]

No, just the Lord God. There is such a thing, fate.

[igog]

fate, yes, but the Lord here, perhaps, has nothing to do with, in your interpretation

[igorka357]

C'mon, but in ours then what? Not so long ago, and our best aces fell and died, so do not be sarcastic!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: igorka357

C'mon, but in ours then ... so it’s not a sarcasm!

Where did you see the sarcasm in my words, dear? This is not me sarcastic, but you masturbate to staff members, since you take a simple statement of fact for a mockery. Yes, we did die too, but the last death of a pilot of a Russian aerobatic team was in 2009 (we don't take into account last year's disaster with the Mi-28 Berkuts - it's still a helicopter aerobatic team). So, our aces in those years simply did not have enough raid, even the question was raised of disbanding the main groups - "Russian Knights" and "Swifts". And the Americans have never had any problems with kerosene ...
Moreover, I have never claimed that everything is fine with us.

[sergey2017]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Quote: igorka357

C'mon, but in ours then ... so it’s not a sarcasm!

Where did you see the sarcasm in my words, dear? This is not me sarcastic, but you masturbate to staff members, since you take a simple statement of fact for a mockery. Yes, we did die too, but the last death of a pilot of a Russian aerobatic team was in 2009 (we don't take into account last year's disaster with the Mi-28 Berkuts - it's still a helicopter aerobatic team). So, our aces in those years simply did not have enough raid, even the question was raised of disbanding the main groups - "Russian Knights" and "Swifts". And the Americans have never had any problems with kerosene ...
Moreover, I have never claimed that everything is fine with us.

I fully support!

[igorka357]

And it feels like you're completely licking ..))

[igorka357]

Masturbate on staff ..))? It’s just a super expression, we’ve had some fun! It’s someone who picked up a raid, from Igor Tkachenko, don’t tell my slippers .. unusual tragic combination of circumstances, equipment malfunction! What do we have about them, and you are right about the kingdom right now, and I think you agree that in their flight kingdom it’s better than ours, at least for now .. but we are catching up and hope to overtake! By the way, don’t recall the penultimate flight incident with their pilots of demonstration aerobatic teams .. that's it ..!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: igorka357

bye .. but we are catching up and hope to overtake

Pereobulsya in the air, and now like a patriot? We do not need to catch up with anyone, our pilots are the best in the world. The Syrian VKS operation proved this.

Quote: igorka357

By the way, do not remind the penultimate flight accident with their pilots of demonstration aerobatic teams .. and that's it ..

Let me remind you that in 2003 "Petrel" and "Angels" had no accidents until yesterday. However, I would like to note that the Americans do not have such a complicated program as ours. Watch videos or something.

[igorka357]

You just stupidly enrage, as young people say, before drawing conclusions about me, at least read a couple of my comments ... for familiarization, a disgrace and only! I may be a patriot, but not a stupid hurray-patriot like "we the most, the most, we will admit "that's why we sometimes get it!

[igog]

precisely and reasonably

[igog]

not a fact, but that there is something in it

[ramzes1776]

They are up to our "Swifts" and "Russian Knights" as to China with cancer

[BARKHAN]

A question for the flyers and people in the subject ... What should these groups (both ours and Amer) do in case of war? To which compounds or test structures are they assigned? Since these pilots are of the highest category, does the command have hope for their skills?
It is very interesting, if this is certainly not a military secret ...

[sgazeev]

Quote: Black

Promotion from the pentagon. Need money to cut. But what about ?! Airplanes are falling, old .... Two airplanes per day is dashing. I am writing without gloating. Just a statement of fact.

Something reminded of the Lviv catastrophe, the pilot was condemned.

[BLOND]

Quote: sgazeev

Quote: Black

Promotion from the pentagon. Need money to cut. But what about ?! Airplanes are falling, old .... Two airplanes per day is dashing. I am writing without gloating. Just a statement of fact.

Something reminded of the Lviv catastrophe, the pilot was condemned.

77 people died there (28 of them children)
More than five hundred injured ...

[rammjager]

There they made a switchman from the pilot. Who do you think is responsible for safety at such events? Spectators were directly in the flight zone. The plane fell almost on people, they simply had nowhere to go.

[Sharapov]

It was fun that Barack Obamych, meeting with the surviving pilot, thanked him for his service.
Like, keep it up, keep up the good work ....

[region58]

Quote: Sharapov

It was fun that Barack Obamych, meeting with the surviving pilot, thanked him for his service.
Like, keep it up, keep up the good work ...

Well, why, supported in difficult times, the pilot also go to the soul rotten. He made it clear that there are no complaints. In my opinion, a normal thing.

[yushch]

Quote: region58

Quote: Sharapov

It was fun that Barack Obamych, meeting with the surviving pilot, thanked him for his service.
Like, keep it up, keep up the good work ...

Well, why, supported in difficult times, the pilot also go to the soul rotten. He made it clear that there are no complaints. In my opinion, a normal thing.

In the news, it’s infa that the pilot, after the demonstrations, landed and already launched the landing gear, but as a result of an abnormal situation that arose on board the aircraft, he decided to take him to a safe place and eject, which he did. The act of the ace pilot, for this he received the gratitude of the president, we would also receive gratitude, this is a common practice.

[iouris]

They will draw conclusions themselves. Carrying out flights is an experience associated with a deliberate risk of an accident (s). In 1980, over the course of one night, on May 11-12, the Air Force experienced 8 aviation accidents.
It makes sense to evaluate only relative indicators, for example, the number of accidents per conventional unit of raid (average raid per 1 incident). Of course, the complexity of flight missions should be considered.

[demo]

On the one hand, we Russians unequivocally consider Americans to be our original opponents or enemies, as you like.
But come on, the pilot died, i.e. the one who could bomb our cities tomorrow and kill our people, and condolences rained down.
How everything is arranged in our heads is complicated.
Even we ourselves are hard to understand. What to say about foreigners.

May he rest in peace.
I will not say anything about the kingdom of heaven.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Native pilots, condolences

I join ..

[figwam]

While Obama read a speech about the greatness of the US Army, the F-16 fell behind him.
F-18 fall video.

[Igor39]

Less two ...

[igorka357]

And who's a plus, do not tell me?

[vanavatny]

to some patient in a hospital in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, etc., this dove of peace will not be on their heads

[Muvka]

Quote: igorka357

And who's a plus, do not tell me?

Tell me.

[avvg]

Apparently, the technique failed, usually demonstration flights show experienced pilots.

[Thunderbolt]

It was a black day for the American army --- an army truck washed away in Texas (3 died, 6 went missing).

[Bayonet]

"Blue Angel" is a strong aerobatic team, but unfortunately, the aces are not immune to death.
In 2009, the commander of the Russian Knights, Igor Tkachenko, was killed.
Pilots do not die - they just fly away ...

[godofwar6699]

RIP Marine Capt. Jeff Kuss.

[RUSIVAN]

After watching the video, I was surprised that they can’t do without chewing gum on the demonstration performances either, someone saw our pilots chewing (this is so to speak, not related to the topic) ...

[Parsec]

Quote: RUSIVAN

they are on the plane at demonstrations without chewing gum

Most likely, in order to avoid ear plugging during vertical maneuvers.

[RUSIVAN]

AHA and at official ceremonies the president chews, so that he doesn’t put his ears ??? And so that ours doesn’t maneuver VERTICALLY so that they lay their ears, no one chews ... or show a video where our pilots chew on over maneuvers.
You wrote nonsense ...

[Gray brother]

Something they frequented.

[Yak28]

They want to surpass us in any way

[Gray brother]

Quote: Yak28

They want to surpass us in any way

We can’t catch them.
Taken from here:
http://econintersect.com/b2evolution/blog1.php/2013/07/08/the-united-states-of-a
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[Professor]

Quote: Gray Brother

We can’t catch them.

Do not catch up on the number of aircraft, the number of airfields, the number of passengers and cargo transported. Accident is considered not by the absolute number of aircraft in a crash, but by the number of accidents per x flight hours. Americans incomparably more than others fly. Hence the numbers of lost aircraft. And it turns out that in some Angola the accident rate is lower than in Switzerland.

[Gray brother]

Quote: professor

Do not catch up on the number of aircraft, the number of airfields, the number of passengers and cargo transported.

I did not find sensible statistics on flight hours (for the USA). But I found the ratio of the number of flight accidents and casualties. Guess who comes first in the number of dead people per incident.
https://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

[Professor]

Quote: Gray Brother

Guess who comes first in the number of dead people per incident.

I do not do fortune-telling, I counted. PN Guinea.

It would be interesting to look at the accident rate.

[iouris]

In the United States, about 40 thousand per year die on the roads, in our region 27 thousand
However, the risks associated with an accident in the Russian Federation are an order of magnitude higher than in the United States. The same is true in aviation. Think for yourself how to explain this?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: iouris

. Think for yourself how to explain this?

the population in the states is more than double, more ... will arrange an answer?

[sergeyzzz]

A double holiday, minus two, is the result of cutting money on services and spare parts. This is a crisis that has already begun in the USA, but is being carefully hushed up by the authorities.

[sgr291158]

Cheyut at them recently planes often began to fall.

[akims]

Loss of aircraft in recent years they have become more frequent. Recently, two f-18s collided, before this f-16, two helicopters crashed. Moreover, knowing the west, this is only what could not be hidden.
Apparently there are several factors:
1. Technique fails.
2. The level of training of pilots is not the same.
3. The training intensified sharply (in connection with 2).

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: akims

Loss of aircraft in recent years they have become more frequent. Recently, two f-18s collided, before this f-16, two helicopters crashed. Moreover, knowing the west, this is only what could not be hidden.
Apparently there are several factors:
1. Technique fails.
2. The level of training of pilots is not the same.
3. The training intensified sharply (in connection with 2).

Firstly, they simply do not have a comparable many aircraft, and secondly, with a huge number of aircraft, they also have really large raids.
While everything is in order, they have more money for aviation than all the others combined, and no one canceled the emergency.

[godofwar6699]

[quote = akims] Moreover, knowing the west, this is only what could not be hidden.

let's not talk about Ukraine

[31rus2]

Dear, it’s a pity for ordinary people, of course, as I recall that these vaunted guys did it with impunity, so the road is there for you

[Leto]

Quote: 31rus2

Dear, it’s a pity for ordinary people, of course, as I recall that these vaunted guys did it with impunity, so the road is there for you

The late Capt. Jeff Kuss got into the Blue Angels after Afghanistan, do you feel sorry for the Taliban?

[godofwar6699]

Quote: Leto

do you feel sorry for the Taliban?

He seems to love terrorism.

[vanavatny]

yeah, or Afghan weddings torn to shreds, or maybe he considers the United States’s struggle against them to be nurtured terrorism a farce - how are the Taliban, by the way? Kabul still not taken?

[Leto]

Quote: vanavate

yeah, or Afghan weddings torn to shreds, or maybe he considers the United States’s struggle against them to be nurtured terrorism a farce - how are the Taliban, by the way? Kabul still not taken?

Ours bomb FAB-1500 villages in Afghanistan whose residents are not up to the wedding ...

On the use of DA in Afghanistan:

Even with the bombing of "enemy villages", which completely swept away houses and Duvalas, the real effect was small. The power of the impressive-looking bombs was wasted: the radius of lethal damage by the FAB-3000 shock wave did not exceed 39 m and even for the FAB-9000 remained within 57 m.

[vanavatny]

yeah, and ours were also having fun building schools, hospitals, factories ... what is this for? Well, the photo is so black and white: there are good photos of Belgrade, for example ... or Obama in Japan - generally hd

[Leto]

Quote: vanavate

what are you doing?

Besides, there are always accompanying losses in a war, no matter how cynical it may sound. The death of the civilian population, the death of their own people from "friendly fire" happens IN ALL wars.

[vanavatny]

it’s easy to find a list of wars unleashed by the United States - it is huge: and this is always the accompanying losses caused by the barbaric bombings, that is, we are unleashing a war, and then we grieve ... although what grief did they apologize for at least something?

[31rus2]

Dear, it’s useless to put pressure on my ethics, first of all, these guys are combat pilots, and then everything else, once again I sympathize with the person like a combat pilot, he is dear there, and let his people and government evaluate his merits

[Jamuqa]

But only the Taliban live in Afghanistan?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Leto

Quote: 31rus2

Dear, it’s a pity for ordinary people, of course, as I recall that these vaunted guys did it with impunity, so the road is there for you

The late Capt. Jeff Kuss got into the Blue Angels after Afghanistan, do you feel sorry for the Taliban?

Now I'm sorry.

[flyer]

Real pilots do not have a nationality. Love for the sky is international. And it’s hardly worth mocking and ulcerating ... Condolences.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: fly

Real pilots do not have a nationality. Love for the sky is international. And it’s hardly worth mocking and ulcerating ...

Yeah, you tell this to Luhansk residents who were bombed by a Ukrainian sky lover.

[sgapich]

I will quote my own entry in FB, four hours earlier:
“The Americans are unlucky, the second combat vehicle is already in a day. F-16 (I don't know in what modification, either F-16C or F-16D) near Peterson airbase. This was a member of the Thunderbirds aerobatic team. The pilot is alive.
And the F / A-18 Hornet (again, they don’t say exactly which modification), in the area of ​​Smyrna, but this pilot was not able to eject. This was a member of the Blue Angels aerobatic team. The pilot died.
Given this: the F-16C (single seat) and F-16D (two seat) variants entered production in 1984. The first C / D version was the Block 25 with improved cockpit avionics and radar which added all-weather capability with beyond -visual-range (BVR) AIM-7 and AIM-120 air-air missiles. Block 30/32, 40/42, and 50/52 were later C / D versions. The F-16C / D had a unit cost of US $ 18.8 million (1998). Operational cost per flight hour has been estimated at $ 7,000 to $ 22,470 or $ 24,000, depending on calculation method.
then, most likely, the F-16C was involved in the first incident. "

[Leto]

Jeff Kuss joined the Blue Angels in 2014. with 1400 flight hours and 175 aircraft carrier landings, he took part in Operation Enduring Freedom as part of the VMFA-312 "Checkerboards" squadron of the third wing of the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) aircraft carrier.

May 25, 2016, “Fortus Maneuver” performed by Capt. Jeff kuss

[Abbra]

Condolences to the family of the deceased. Aviation, this is such a thing ...

[Skubudu]

And yet they were experienced pilots who would probably take part in the database against Russia ...
As with SEAL Team 6, which crashed all over in an Afghan helicopter, for some it is a tragedy, but for a potential enemy, a holiday ... minus 15 kittens.

[avg-mgn]

Probably, one can observe a systemic crisis in the Armed Forces of the US, perhaps they have believed in "their exclusiveness", in their "impeccably excellent" technique, as a result they relax. We would not repeat their mistakes!

[Engineer]

I do not like the Yankees, but the pilots died in peacetime and therefore condolences.

ps I thought, the news about the death of the pilots - what to put this news - plus, well, it seems like I like this news, that the pilots died, and minus, too, as if there was nothing to put. And refrain ... like Mr. .. hanging out in the hole.

[sgapich]

Official BlueAngels website is not available. Either block, or a DDOS attack. As an aerobatic team, they are good. Sorry for the pilot.

I do not feel the slightest fondness for the Americans, but the pilot, as a person, is a pity. And it's a pity the plane is still not the worst car.

[sgapich]

Although seeing the inscription USNAVY or USAF, and many others starting with US, I have a wild desire to switch to target tracking mode.

Dixi.

[NordUral]

Are you crazy Although no, just a provocateur.

[chunga-changa]

Well, fine, minus two vultures. In Serbia, I think they are also happy.

[Alexandr2637]

The more KILLERS the enemy falls, the less work our air defense will have!
Found someone to spare - ENEMIES !!!

[kit-kat]

It is not necessary to feel sorry for anyone, but to gloat is low. Not worthy of a Russian person.

[NordUral]

Sorry for the pilot! Good guys fly and die, and the villains of politics throw them to death.

[pavelty]

Who Said Aviation Is Easy? The aircraft is a complex technical device that can fail at any time, here both the human factor and technical problems, he himself was an aircraft technician, factors influencing the successful completion of the task - the sea. It’s a pity for the guy, he was just doing his duty, one must have respect even for the “conditional enemy”.

[pavelty]

And minus from the rabid patriots who rejoice in the death of an ordinary officer? Well done, when you take a machine gun in your hands then you will shoot at the enemy, and now why stomp on the guy’s corpse?

[Jamuqa]

Something has not been lucky lately Barak Huseynovich, life began to put everything in its place? Although ...

[Leto]

We expect the missing man formation for the deceased Capt. Jeff Kuss.

Missing man formation after the deceased 21.04.2007 at the South Carolina Airshow Lt.Cmdr. Kevin Davis, performed by six machines, not five as usual. Former "angel" Lt.Cmdr.Craig Olson asked to take him sixth to honor the memory of the deceased.

[GOGY]

Another one flew off, well, to hell with it, let it replenish the infernal squadron, there is nothing to spare them, they will definitely not regret us ...

[iouris]

To show gloating over a tragic occasion is not a feature characteristic of Russian people. Unfortunately, some comments suggest that stupidity and low culture have a place in our society. It cannot be ruled out that there are conscious provocations against morality. It's disgusting.

[GOGY]

When they come to your home you can meet them with flowers and a loaf, maybe they will give you chewing gum and snickers from dry tea ... And in my opinion, you are not completely Russian ... Writing is really painful ...

[pavelty]

When they come, then we will meet as it should, without loaves. And here is the kid who died in a tragic situation? The same military man as we are.

[Bayonet]

Quote: GOGY

When they come to your home you can meet them with flowers and a loaf ...

[Stabilization]

No longing, no love, no sadness
no anxiety, no chest pain ...
(Brodsky)

[Victor1]

These are not the first cases of crashed planes in the United States in recent years, they began to fight more often, which means they began to fly more often. So do not relax.

[flyer]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: fly

Real pilots do not have a nationality. Love for the sky is international. And it’s hardly worth mocking and ulcerating ...

Yeah, you tell this to Luhansk residents who were bombed by a Ukrainian sky lover.

Your nickname speaks for itself ... Or have you not received enough education in order not to distinguish between military operations and air shows? I feel sorry for you .. Nature saved on brains ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: fly

I feel sorry for you ..

I'm not sorry for you.
For me, Americans are potential enemies.
I do not believe in their sincerity, nor in their friendliness, nor in their disinterestedness, for the simple reason that they always see Russia and my people at the level of the Ebola virus, that is, as a potential threat, with only one difference 1. So far, determined. Although back in 2, US presidential candidate Mitt Romney said that Russia is the No. 2012 geopolitical enemy for the United States.
If he dies from diarrhea, you express condolences to his relatives about the premature death, and I will just consider that Russia has become less than one enemy. There are more than 300 million citizens in the mattress state, and I am more than sure that most of them do not give a damn about the loss when they have a dozen citizens firing at the police every day.
Now about the nickname. And what does he tell you? "For himself"))) For your information - Nyrob is in the Urals. I am a native of the city of Nyrob! (I was born in Nyrob) What marks this city in the Russian historical tablets - he took over the first of the Romanov dynasty in 1613, even under Boris Godunov. Perm received the second of the Romanovs, Constantine, and Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg now) received all the Romanovs and Nikolai. Ural-for the Romanovs a lost place.
Your nickname - a flyer does not mean anything at all, and your "mosch" is not interesting to me.
That dill flyer who hit the Lugansk administration on June 2, 2014, as a result of which civilians died, ceased to be a pilot from the moment of launch and went into the category of war criminals without statute of limitations June 2, 2014. All.

[flyer]

Grad Nyrob ?? !!! Bugaga .... Nyrobsk urban settlement ... And it makes you proud that the Romanovs died in the Urals? Be proud further)))) Development at the baseboard level .. And do you see snipers in American biathletes? Maybe in swimmers, fur seals ?!))) I repeat for those who, on an armored train with an impenetrable forehead, the pilot of an aerobatic team died during an air show. And not a scumbag near Lugansk, which he beat on his brothers ... Do you feel the difference, reserve officer? Good luck

[evge-malyshev]

The captain is sorry. Sincere condolences to the family and colleagues of the deceased pilot.

[Dr. Sorge]

The guy is sorry, fate under heaven is such a harsh.
Maybe he took the plane away from the village? Why not catapulted?
It’s not worth writing at all about the way they need it. These are professionals in their field. The enemy must be known and respected. Then we will win.
Yes, if the Perdos flew over Donetsk, that would be another matter. This is at war.
But the Americans are howling today against fascism in New Russia. A little, but they are. Not all if amricoses are bad.
Eternal memory to the pilot.

[Ros 56]

Yes, alas, this cup does not bypass anyone, so gloating is not great.