“Power is marching along the path laid by Milosevic”
Igor Strelkov on the goals and objectives of the Russian patriots and why his associates do not support the political course of the state
On Saturday, there were two important events for the patriots of Russia, which were expectedly ignored by the majority of obedient media: the January 25 Committee evolved into the All-Russian National Movement under the direction of Igor Strelkov (UPM), and finally the organization’s political declaration was approved and published.
The document reflects the views of participants in the movement on the development of virtually all spheres of society. As follows from its text, shooters set themselves the goal of "the revival of Russia as a Russian national state, serving the interests of the Russian nation." The full text of the declaration can be found here.
In order to clarify the details, the correspondent of the Russian Planet met and spoke with the leader of the movement, Igor Strelkov. The conversation also turned to recent events in the country's political freak show.
- Igor Ivanovich, tell us what dictated the renaming of the January 25 Committee into the All-Russian National Movement and the appearance of its political declaration?
- A significant part of the committee members - now movements - have argued that in the upcoming events the notion of “committee” is too amorphous to determine our current political status.
Today, given the fact that our government is now actively marching along the path to self-destruction laid by Milosevic and Yanukovych, we also need to accelerate.
As for the declaration, it was prepared long ago. The result was a compromise document. That is, the provisions of the declaration were divided by people of very different political views. I want to add that this document is not a dogma, carved on tablets. This is a working version that will be further enhanced.
- Among your critics, the idea is often heard that in the declaration undue attention is paid to the “Russian question”, the construction of a Russian national state in Russia, and the protection of Russian rights. Do you think this is the main issue today?
- In fact, we are open to any initiatives of the entire spectrum of the patriotic movement: from the left to the right, from anarchists to communists, we are trying to develop a common ideological platform.
Yes, it is the national element that prevails in the movement at the moment. The ideologues of Russian nationalist (in the word “nationalist”, in my opinion, there is no negative meaning) organizations are actively working in the movement, which means they have every right to contribute their word.
Personally, I do not quite separate the individual provisions of the declaration, but as far as the “Russian question” is concerned, it is very acute. For one simple reason: the Russians are the most disadvantaged, perhaps the only disadvantaged people in Russia. And we will not get anywhere from this factor. And we also cannot bypass this question. Although, of course, the mention of the fact that social justice is a very significant aspect, it is present here, and it will definitely be revealed in the next version of the document. These questions, like many others, are interrelated.
- The declaration contains the following wording: “We refuse to support the current political regime”. What is behind it?
- This formulation reflects the shift in our assessments of the actions of the authorities. In its first statements, the January 25 Committee expressed neutrality towards the government. Agree that "neutrality" and "refusal of support" - it still sounds different. This happened not because we have changed, but because the changes we have previously experienced in the government itself are taking place.
Over the past four months, power has shifted significantly toward the pro-Western liberal course. Again, we have a star of the first magnitude on the political stage - this is Mr. Kudrin, who again declares that he is developing economic policy for us, and Kudrin’s policy is a policy of a raw materials appendage, absolutely powerless to the West.
How else can we interpret his yesterday's statement that "we must become, albeit a second-class appendage, but enter the world technological chains". Where is the second row, there is the third. In reality, it’s about the fact that Kudrin calmly and consistently drags our once great power into the category of a raw material colony, a raw materials appendage.
Other “news from the field” is a scandal with Savchenko, which we now declare to be “an act of humanism.” The president, making a decision that is clearly agreed with the so-called respected partners, manages to shift the blame ... not the blame, the responsibility for this decision to the relatives of the murdered journalists. Following this logic, tomorrow nothing bothers the janitor’s uncle Petya to blame for the collapse of the economy. And then, God forbid, Uncle Peter will ask him to pass the nuclear weapon USA…
And how do you say the statements of Peskov, which clearly appeared out of the blue, that if Poroshenko were ready to seize the Donbass for humanistic reasons, we would support it only with joy. That is, if tomorrow Poroshenko says drunk that he is ready to take the Donbass out of humanitarian considerations, then we will give him the border and put millions more Russian people who already live there "very happily" under shelling, to a stream of looting?
Our position in this regard remains unchanged. The position of power in front of eyes is shifting towards further betrayals. In the direction of the surrender, even of what they themselves won, in the direction of complete renunciation of the sovereignty of Russia. And all this under the biting phrases about spiritual bonds and so on.
Accordingly, our attitude towards this power, which is slipping past us into the abyss, is changing. Hence the wording. If the government the day after tomorrow declares that it is generally anti-people, that is, anti-Russian, then, naturally, the corresponding wording in our declaration will change, it will not be about refusing to support, but, apparently, about something else.
- Returning to the theme of Savchenko’s release: after all, thanks to the exchange, our fighters returned to their homeland. Is it not worth their freedom to let it be unjust and, frankly, an ugly exchange?
“In such cases, I quote popular wisdom:“ Whatever a fool does, he will do everything wrong. ” Look at how Ukraine behaved as a state, well, a pseudo-state (you can scoff at it as you please, as well as this Poroshenko alcoholic). But, nevertheless, how did the Ukrainian authorities behave in relation to Savchenko? Every day they declared that Savchenko is a heroine. They always recognized her as a serviceman of the armed forces of Ukraine, denied all the accusations against her, demanded her release permanently.
As a result, when Savchenko is released, they can use it in full as a symbol of uncompromising resistance, including a symbol of their own principles. And further declare that “we defended Savchenko, she is free, now remember that we said: that the Donbass will be ours and the Crimea will be ours. Sooner or later we will defend ours. ” They are already starting to believe in the world.
Now for the two liberated special forces soldiers. First of all, we did not recognize them as our servicemen, said that “we are not there” and that they quit. Nowhere was it written in public about them, it was not mentioned. Russia did not defend their rights.
And even this exchange of Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev for Savchenko was so furnished that it looks like an act of goodwill on the part of Poroshenko. We did not demand their return? - No, they did not. Did we launch any campaign? - No, nothing is unfolded. And the main reason for the exchange Savchenko put that? That's right: the humane request of the relatives of the fallen journalists. And where are these fighters? It turns out, as in the appendage. That is, from an objective point of view, this is not a change. It turned out in the eyes of the whole world, including thanks to our media, there was an amnesty Savchenko. Well, in addition to us on the good will Poroshenko gave something else. Someone, it is not clear, and who. People we have denied, "they were not there." Who are they? Heroes? No, because they are nobody, according to the official version. Criminals? Also not ... Well, in general, everything is as usual. The position of the amoeba is something like this.
- What do you think the OSCE police mission in Donbass can turn into?
- And all this has already happened. International police forces were in Bosnia and in Kosovo. That is, this is one of the stages of the retreat in the Yugoslav scenario.
I have already said many times that the frog is boiled slowly: a little more, by half a degree, the situation in the Donbas was raised. Today the society will swallow the OSCE armed mission, tomorrow - the police forces, then the peacekeeping troops, and then it can swallow the transfer of the border from the peacekeeping forces directly into the hands of Ukraine. There is a complete surrender, not at once, but stretched in time.
Donbass. Photo: Mikhail Sokolov / TASS
As a result, hundreds of thousands of angry refugees will flee to Russia. Putin will finally lose credibility in the eyes of the population. And note: not the regime, but Putin. Because all of his surroundings will try to gently distance themselves from this moment. We will get the pre-made situation.
Exactly the same overthrew Milosevic. At first, he betrayed everyone, but in the end everything turned out to be against him. And the liberals, whom he always seemed to push away from power, but did not pursue. And the patriots, to whom he has always been biting phrases about Serbia and Orthodoxy, as it were, provided indirect support and whom he betrayed time after time. First in Krajina, then in Bosnia, then in Kosovo. But in the end he was left with nothing at all and was merged with his own environment.
- What kind of political activity do you plan to show in today's conditions?
- We do not plan any street actions yet. We focus on building the structure of the movement, designed to act in extreme situations. In a situation where the power self-destructed.
We now need to prepare the information field around our structure so that people know that there is such a political organization with such specific slogans. The media will be expected to ignore us - we will disseminate information on the Internet, through social networks through other channels.
We have neither administrative nor financial resources. And without the support of the people, without at least an understanding of a part of the population of our tasks, we cannot do anything significant. I believe that as the socio-political, social situation in the country deteriorates, more and more people will listen to us.
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