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“Power is marching along the path laid by Milosevic”

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“Power is marching along the path laid by Milosevic”



Igor Strelkov on the goals and objectives of the Russian patriots and why his associates do not support the political course of the state


On Saturday, there were two important events for the patriots of Russia, which were expectedly ignored by the majority of obedient media: the January 25 Committee evolved into the All-Russian National Movement under the direction of Igor Strelkov (UPM), and finally the organization’s political declaration was approved and published.

The document reflects the views of participants in the movement on the development of virtually all spheres of society. As follows from its text, shooters set themselves the goal of "the revival of Russia as a Russian national state, serving the interests of the Russian nation." The full text of the declaration can be found here.

In order to clarify the details, the correspondent of the Russian Planet met and spoke with the leader of the movement, Igor Strelkov. The conversation also turned to recent events in the country's political freak show.

- Igor Ivanovich, tell us what dictated the renaming of the January 25 Committee into the All-Russian National Movement and the appearance of its political declaration?

- A significant part of the committee members - now movements - have argued that in the upcoming events the notion of “committee” is too amorphous to determine our current political status.

Today, given the fact that our government is now actively marching along the path to self-destruction laid by Milosevic and Yanukovych, we also need to accelerate.

As for the declaration, it was prepared long ago. The result was a compromise document. That is, the provisions of the declaration were divided by people of very different political views. I want to add that this document is not a dogma, carved on tablets. This is a working version that will be further enhanced.

- Among your critics, the idea is often heard that in the declaration undue attention is paid to the “Russian question”, the construction of a Russian national state in Russia, and the protection of Russian rights. Do you think this is the main issue today?

- In fact, we are open to any initiatives of the entire spectrum of the patriotic movement: from the left to the right, from anarchists to communists, we are trying to develop a common ideological platform.

Yes, it is the national element that prevails in the movement at the moment. The ideologues of Russian nationalist (in the word “nationalist”, in my opinion, there is no negative meaning) organizations are actively working in the movement, which means they have every right to contribute their word.

Personally, I do not quite separate the individual provisions of the declaration, but as far as the “Russian question” is concerned, it is very acute. For one simple reason: the Russians are the most disadvantaged, perhaps the only disadvantaged people in Russia. And we will not get anywhere from this factor. And we also cannot bypass this question. Although, of course, the mention of the fact that social justice is a very significant aspect, it is present here, and it will definitely be revealed in the next version of the document. These questions, like many others, are interrelated.

- The declaration contains the following wording: “We refuse to support the current political regime”. What is behind it?

- This formulation reflects the shift in our assessments of the actions of the authorities. In its first statements, the January 25 Committee expressed neutrality towards the government. Agree that "neutrality" and "refusal of support" - it still sounds different. This happened not because we have changed, but because the changes we have previously experienced in the government itself are taking place.

Over the past four months, power has shifted significantly toward the pro-Western liberal course. Again, we have a star of the first magnitude on the political stage - this is Mr. Kudrin, who again declares that he is developing economic policy for us, and Kudrin’s policy is a policy of a raw materials appendage, absolutely powerless to the West.

How else can we interpret his yesterday's statement that "we must become, albeit a second-class appendage, but enter the world technological chains". Where is the second row, there is the third. In reality, it’s about the fact that Kudrin calmly and consistently drags our once great power into the category of a raw material colony, a raw materials appendage.

Other “news from the field” is a scandal with Savchenko, which we now declare to be “an act of humanism.” The president, making a decision that is clearly agreed with the so-called respected partners, manages to shift the blame ... not the blame, the responsibility for this decision to the relatives of the murdered journalists. Following this logic, tomorrow nothing bothers the janitor’s uncle Petya to blame for the collapse of the economy. And then, God forbid, Uncle Peter will ask him to pass the nuclear weapon USA…

And how do you say the statements of Peskov, which clearly appeared out of the blue, that if Poroshenko were ready to seize the Donbass for humanistic reasons, we would support it only with joy. That is, if tomorrow Poroshenko says drunk that he is ready to take the Donbass out of humanitarian considerations, then we will give him the border and put millions more Russian people who already live there "very happily" under shelling, to a stream of looting?

Our position in this regard remains unchanged. The position of power in front of eyes is shifting towards further betrayals. In the direction of the surrender, even of what they themselves won, in the direction of complete renunciation of the sovereignty of Russia. And all this under the biting phrases about spiritual bonds and so on.

Accordingly, our attitude towards this power, which is slipping past us into the abyss, is changing. Hence the wording. If the government the day after tomorrow declares that it is generally anti-people, that is, anti-Russian, then, naturally, the corresponding wording in our declaration will change, it will not be about refusing to support, but, apparently, about something else.

- Returning to the theme of Savchenko’s release: after all, thanks to the exchange, our fighters returned to their homeland. Is it not worth their freedom to let it be unjust and, frankly, an ugly exchange?

“In such cases, I quote popular wisdom:“ Whatever a fool does, he will do everything wrong. ” Look at how Ukraine behaved as a state, well, a pseudo-state (you can scoff at it as you please, as well as this Poroshenko alcoholic). But, nevertheless, how did the Ukrainian authorities behave in relation to Savchenko? Every day they declared that Savchenko is a heroine. They always recognized her as a serviceman of the armed forces of Ukraine, denied all the accusations against her, demanded her release permanently.

As a result, when Savchenko is released, they can use it in full as a symbol of uncompromising resistance, including a symbol of their own principles. And further declare that “we defended Savchenko, she is free, now remember that we said: that the Donbass will be ours and the Crimea will be ours. Sooner or later we will defend ours. ” They are already starting to believe in the world.

Now for the two liberated special forces soldiers. First of all, we did not recognize them as our servicemen, said that “we are not there” and that they quit. Nowhere was it written in public about them, it was not mentioned. Russia did not defend their rights.

And even this exchange of Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev for Savchenko was so furnished that it looks like an act of goodwill on the part of Poroshenko. We did not demand their return? - No, they did not. Did we launch any campaign? - No, nothing is unfolded. And the main reason for the exchange Savchenko put that? That's right: the humane request of the relatives of the fallen journalists. And where are these fighters? It turns out, as in the appendage. That is, from an objective point of view, this is not a change. It turned out in the eyes of the whole world, including thanks to our media, there was an amnesty Savchenko. Well, in addition to us on the good will Poroshenko gave something else. Someone, it is not clear, and who. People we have denied, "they were not there." Who are they? Heroes? No, because they are nobody, according to the official version. Criminals? Also not ... Well, in general, everything is as usual. The position of the amoeba is something like this.

- What do you think the OSCE police mission in Donbass can turn into?

- And all this has already happened. International police forces were in Bosnia and in Kosovo. That is, this is one of the stages of the retreat in the Yugoslav scenario.

I have already said many times that the frog is boiled slowly: a little more, by half a degree, the situation in the Donbas was raised. Today the society will swallow the OSCE armed mission, tomorrow - the police forces, then the peacekeeping troops, and then it can swallow the transfer of the border from the peacekeeping forces directly into the hands of Ukraine. There is a complete surrender, not at once, but stretched in time.


Donbass. Photo: Mikhail Sokolov / TASS

As a result, hundreds of thousands of angry refugees will flee to Russia. Putin will finally lose credibility in the eyes of the population. And note: not the regime, but Putin. Because all of his surroundings will try to gently distance themselves from this moment. We will get the pre-made situation.

Exactly the same overthrew Milosevic. At first, he betrayed everyone, but in the end everything turned out to be against him. And the liberals, whom he always seemed to push away from power, but did not pursue. And the patriots, to whom he has always been biting phrases about Serbia and Orthodoxy, as it were, provided indirect support and whom he betrayed time after time. First in Krajina, then in Bosnia, then in Kosovo. But in the end he was left with nothing at all and was merged with his own environment.

- What kind of political activity do you plan to show in today's conditions?

- We do not plan any street actions yet. We focus on building the structure of the movement, designed to act in extreme situations. In a situation where the power self-destructed.

We now need to prepare the information field around our structure so that people know that there is such a political organization with such specific slogans. The media will be expected to ignore us - we will disseminate information on the Internet, through social networks through other channels.

We have neither administrative nor financial resources. And without the support of the people, without at least an understanding of a part of the population of our tasks, we cannot do anything significant. I believe that as the socio-political, social situation in the country deteriorates, more and more people will listen to us.

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  1. Barakuda
    Barakuda 4 June 2016 16: 01
    0
    And was it worth it to take Arrow off to "another job"? request Who sponsors it? A "cabinet" with a secretary does not give power to everyone.
    1. avt
      avt 4 June 2016 16: 27
      +5
      Quote: Barracuda
      And was it worth it to take Arrow off to "another job"?

      Elections, elections, candidates ... "
      “But can’t this phrase be cut out?”
      - What?! Everything was written for her sake ...
      laughing Yes you are! Yes, make this whole piarastic sabbath about, Three hundred riflemen and babay "In the MK named after the monarchist Pavel Gusev with the attached Belkovsky, it was ordered, and it was done! screwed up to the fullest and now they are like rats tearing the remnants of each other's mouths. So I had to shovel the song straight into, And along the Swamp cavalry they walk and drag an armored train on ropes "with the inscription" Colonel Girkin / Strelkov "
      On Saturday, there were two important events for the patriots of Russia, which were expectedly ignored by the majority of obedient media: the January 25 Committee evolved into the All-Russian National Movement under the direction of Igor Strelkov (UPM), and finally the organization’s political declaration was approved and published.
      naturally, Shooter laughing Raise the two-year comments - EVERYTHING was written there, his whole schedule and how they will oppose Putin. But then the adherents of the Strelka sect spattered their monitors with saliva in an angry hysterics and pounded on the keyboard - How dare you ... nervously beating the minuses to me and just as quite capable of calculating reality a little bit more. laughing I’ll honestly say - I don’t know how and when he was recruited, or played on pissed pride, when they kicked him out of Donbass, or earlier. Yes, this is by and large not important, so - for the archive and subsequent detectives, the main thing is that it they’ll activate it under the current election, and if this dog’s wedding in the form of a movement somehow cuts out even by a millimeter, then in the year 18 this dog instead of Anal and other Kasianovoryzhkov’s will set him on Putin. Kasyanovokasparov anal! A true colonel who does not know the words of love! A knight in white monarchical robes is without reproach without fear, and near two sanchapas they rub with fat asses - Prosvirin and Belkovsky. The latter still manages to reach out of London.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 16: 52
        +12
        I absolutely agree with you, dear avt hi
        Quote: avt
        I don’t know how and when he was recruited
        When I went to serve in the office. On the monarchical ideas of the reconstructor and recruited. Further, he only followed the instructions of the curators
        Quote: avt
        near two sanchapasas with fat asses rub-Prosvirin and Belkovsky
        There are also two unpleasant characters there - the pale worm Tolik Nesmiyan (El-Murid) and the drunk Vova Kucherenko (aka Maxim Kalashnikov). These two provide media support to the "white knight". In short, the company is still the same. To be honest, I really respected Eddie Limonov when he jumped out of this viper in time.
        1. avt
          avt 4 June 2016 17: 07
          -3
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          I directly respected Edichka Limonov when he jumped out of this gadyushnik in time.

          Quote: avt
          Here he is reconstructing the fate of Gapon’s priest if he doesn’t jump off now, but he doesn’t have the mind and strength to get out of it until he climbed in. But Pedagogy Limonov jumped off the footstep ahead of time and felt the heat under his ass.

          Pedicza knowingly in Paris ass rubbed! For this reason he even got into new great Russian writers even from Zyuganov’s speeches, near which he rubbed himself at demonstrations, and if he saw through the back gate if not mind, then Pavlov’s reflex instilled danger in particular. laughing It’s really not just that he quickly jumped quietly, but also with a cry, so that they would not be swept up in the suit. laughing
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          There are also two unpleasant characters there - a pale worm Tolik Nesmiyan (El-Murid) and the drunk Vova Kucherenko (aka Maxim Kalashnikov)

          They also pour slop on each other in the hope of becoming "a person close to the emperor", well, if a la Suslov does not go to the Politburo. No. They are not with the money and they will not be allowed to put a visa on distribution. There the puppeteer is older.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 46
          +15
          You have a lot of words, but where are the arguments?
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 4 June 2016 18: 15
            +15
            Quote: NordUral
            You have a lot of words, but where are the arguments?

            And why should they argue something, they have another task - to throw a heavy lump of mud at a well-deserved veteran, he dared, even scared wassat say laughing criticize himself, and this, I see, on the site is not welcome.
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 18: 59
              +17
              Quote: razmik72
              he dared, it’s even scary to say that he criticized himself, and this, I see, is not welcome on the site.
              Everything is welcome. Here and not such criticism is directed. But communication with murky personalities and general nonsense (coupled with boasting) does not suit the "honored veteran" who positions himself as a man of duty and honor.
              1. Mahmut
                Mahmut 5 June 2016 08: 11
                +6
                why start your political career (if it is so impatient to become a savior of the fatherland) with more than dubious ties?

                There is a proverb "it is not difficult to be a president, it is difficult to become a president". The system of succession of power is such that the path to big politics lies only through the mouth of the toilet. Here everyone is proud that we have such a president as Putin. Only those who have done nothing for this are proud. And those who just brought him to power regret. That is, the Sobchaks, Berezovsky and other kikimors of the political swamp. Therefore, it is foolish to criticize Strelkov for connections that discredit him. He is not a virgin to be shaken by the thought that some of the sofa marshals are disappointed in him. Something tells me that he will survive it.
            2. Homo
              Homo 4 June 2016 19: 10
              +4
              Quote: razmik72
              criticize himself, and this, I see, on the site is not welcome.

              I did not understand what this criticism is and what constructive is it?
            3. Abbra
              Abbra 4 June 2016 21: 16
              +17
              What does VO have to do with it? People think, analyze how everyone has the right to their version ... The fact that Strelkova is being "played" was clear for a long time. The question is how, who and why? For some reason, when I read his last interviews, General Lebed comes to mind ... I don't know why, but the associations are extreme.
              1. tupolev-95
                tupolev-95 5 June 2016 09: 50
                +5
                To the very point. One to one. Loud patriotic rhetoric, a man, a veteran - and all of a sudden - bang! - played like a shifter.
          2. avt
            avt 4 June 2016 19: 42
            +2
            Quote: NordUral
            You have a lot of words, but where are the arguments?

            Quote: razmik72
            And why should they argue something, they have another task - to throw a heavy lump of mud into a well-deserved veteran,

            laughing And why do you need "arguments" ?? I am virtually out of the sect, and I don’t take it out in bulk - God didn’t give the talent.
            Quote: avt
            Raise biannual comments - EVERYTHING was painted there, his entire timetable and how Putin will be opposed.

            What’s the problem? Go to the archive and see. But the campaign is scary, rummaging scary and comprehending the past in dynamics, well, scary to be disappointed in the crystal radiant dream of a warrior in white clothes. Hence, from this fear and the demand of some new arguments. laughing Well, stupidly, at least a year ago, rewind me in the archive - everything said the SAME MOST and that they would introduce it into politics, and that they would throw themselves at Putin, and here they explained on the site then, then Starikov drew on the board, it's not that I'm a supporter of Starikov , just, well, ANYONE who, in comparison, even then analyzed the words of Girkin / Strelkov, began to scratch his turnip - something was wrong here. But where there! ArgUment serve. Yes, you at least count on the head amuse, at least some sort of receipt of cooperation lay out - do not believe it. Well, Az is a sinner, I repeat, he doesn’t remotely withdraw from the sect.
            1. Vasiliev Yu
              Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 00: 28
              +5
              In my opinion, the analysis is at a primitive level.
              Offended by Putin? In addition to him and Donbass, I am also still not delighted with Putin, that he withdrew from Donbass, did not help initially. People there believed that Russia would help, but they were like `` there is no help and will not be, but you stay there and happiness to you. '' Literally, I just don't remember Medvedev's statement, it's disgusting to remember. It was not necessary to immediately send troops there, it was enough just to recognize the republics, conclude a military agreement and promise to brutally respond to the military provocation of Bander ... logs. Nobody remembers anymore that at the beginning of his reign, Powder did not even dare to yap in the direction of Russia, sat on suitcases, constantly wondering whether our troops entered or not, in order to immediately dump. As smart people say: any trouble must be solved in the bud, and not when it turns into a huge problem, which we have in Ukraine. Why Bander ... logs can shit ... in someone else's sandbox, but we don't want to, we constantly look to the West, respond adequately? Yes, they answered several times, but this is minuscule compared to the rest. It is possible to write on this topic with Ukraine for a long time, but it makes no sense, those who have not understood in 2,5 years will not understand and cannot convince them of anything.
              And the fact that politics will go, that various idiots are possible, without question, namely, it is impossible for him? What, everyone in everything even here agrees with economic policy, no one wants to change it? nobody wants to change education? Like Shooters, do you want to change something, then sit on the couch, knock on the clave and everything will go by itself, where are you with the pork snout in the sacred Kalash row of deputies?
              Offended that removed from the Donbass? Instead of help from Russia, advisers came and strongly advised to leave, because the West is not happy that it is fighting here. I would understand everything in his place, leave, but also be offended.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 5 June 2016 11: 05
                -4
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                People there believed that Russia would help, but they were like `` there is no help for you and will not be, but you hold on there and happiness to you '' Literally, I just don't remember Medvedev's statement, they remember it disgustingly

                - You about it, probably?

                Quote: https://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2016/05/24/n_8672513.shtml
                Medvedev when asked about pensions in Crimea: no money, but you hold on

                - This phrase has nothing to do with Donbass. From the word "in general"
                - the lid is going, hike? My condolences...

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                It was not necessary to immediately send troops there, it was enough just to recognize the republics, conclude a military agreement

                - and get the status of the aggressor. Internationally recognized. For there was no reason to "recognize". From the same word "generally".

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Instead of help from Russia, advisers came and strongly advised to leave, because the West is not happy that it is fighting here

                - don't make everyone funny. On the scale of the conflict, Strelkov is not even a bug .. "The West is dissatisfied" .. yes, the West is exactly on Ukraine and Syria, they solve their problems there, no more ..

                Midshipman, you really amuse me. As an analyst, which you yourself for some reason pulled appropriated laughing
                1. Vasiliev Yu
                  Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 14: 15
                  +1
                  Go ... the otism of your reasoning has long been known in VO, so you could not surprise me with anything. To argue with you, this is how to argue with Ukrainian politicians on a talk show with us, so I don’t see any reason to talk to you.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 5 June 2016 14: 57
                    -3
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    Go ... the otism of your reasoning has long been known in

                    - yah? Who else thinks the same - minus, this is a request .. something like a mini-poll yes
                    - this .. I need to minus, and not .. a respected opponent wink

                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    it makes no sense to talk to you

                    - Duc do not meddle with provocations .. You do not pull on your prototype in any way - the caliber is not the same
                    - take advantage of the emergency, to the edge .. there are lovers of this .. opportunity negative

                    IMHO, yes.
        3. SPACE
          SPACE 4 June 2016 17: 50
          -5
          Quote: avt
          I don’t know how and when he was recruited

          Wretched who ...
          There can be several plots and scenarios, it all depends on his own understanding and complexity of the task.
          A double actor from the theater to Lubyanka, knowingly or in a dark role, a boy with a pipe, a rat dance, money allocated for the Red Revolution by the State Department but nothing unsuspecting, litmus paper, at the same time, if necessary, it can also be a lightning rod for patriots and a thunderbolt Russian nationalism is on the heads of liberals, and if anything, then a discreditor. In general, another lever to control the next ideological mass in the right hands, all kinds of masses are important, all kinds of masses are needed)))
          Z.Y. hide, divide, rule and rule.
          1. avt
            avt 4 June 2016 19: 53
            +5
            Quote: SPACE
            A double actor from the theater to Lubyanka, knowingly or in a dark role, a boy with a pipe, a rat dance, money allocated for the Red Revolution by the State Department but nothing unsuspecting, litmus paper, at the same time, if necessary, it can also be a lightning rod for patriots and a thunderbolt Russian nationalism is on the heads of liberals, and if anything, then a discreditor. In general, another lever to control the next ideological mass in the right hands, all kinds of masses are important, all kinds of masses are needed)))

            But as practice shows, in those days, distant, now almost epic "you can play tough games. An example of this is the SR-ovsky terror with a mass of paid party provocateurs, and the Bolsheviks too. Do you know very well that it is sometimes attractive to use those in power in their interests, so as not to shine and solve some sometimes non-state issues ... well, this is how the Germans send Lenin to Petrograd through the mediation of Gelfand / Parvus. But sometimes the dolls break off the strings and live their own lives, which almost always makes the puppeteers feel sick - dolls do not like to remember where they started and the ends are always cleaned up when they come in. Gapon was cleaned up in time, with the hands of CPs and ... Rutenberg in particular.
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 4 June 2016 21: 26
              0
              Quote: avt
              But as practice shows, in those days, distant, now almost epic "you can play hard games.

              These are examples of first-order indirect control, generally primitive.
              Quote: avt
              Yes, sometimes dolls then break the strings and live their own lives

              Amendment, and what if they only think that they are living their own life and this is nothing more than the estimated part of the plan being implemented.
              Z.Y. this whole interpreted story with Strelkov looks like, against the background of Ukraine, too obvious and stupid to be true, it is easier to believe that the stars came together ... But there’s no better way to hide any true reasons, no ends, no motives, and here’s the dilemma that I’m now doing something and who to put it on ?? Crimea has already left and the Donbass there too ... it remains only to everyone to guess who was plotting and who was using it.
              1. avt
                avt 4 June 2016 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: SPACE
                These are examples of first-order indirect control, generally primitive.

                But the most effective! Moreover, with seeming simplicity - go and try to verify such a combination, in fact it turns out that this simplicity requires incredibly delicate work and excessive forces to hold the object and build the situation as a whole.
                Quote: SPACE
                and what if they only think that they are living their own life and this is nothing more than the calculated part of the plan being implemented.

                Sooner or later, enlightenment comes and ..... cruel disappointment, along with bitterness, and here are two ways. First, they stupidly drink themselves, chip and burn, go into sects and lose their identity, and it happens that strong personalities do not even break in half: The second is that all the vicious anger is gathered together and thrown into some business, not even politics, and the result is achieved with determination and cruelty proportionally squeezed into a single lump and thrown into the cause of energy. Moreover, the second option also includes religion. hermitages and actually reach heights in the spiritual field.
                Quote: SPACE
                it’s easier to believe that the stars came together ...

                The consolation of sectarians and softened idiots - potential victims of any sect. Classic - we carried out the order of the Fuhrer, well, when the Fuhrer becomes akin to the stars. But who lights the stars? This professor is already the second question. laughing
            2. Vasiliev Yu
              Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 00: 46
              -2
              B ... la, I read all this ... I can say: fantasies are somehow unhealthy. As they say, he fantasized, he himself was offended by his fantasies. I’m a straightforward person, I say what I think: it’s nice of course that there are still people who are fond of history, and even read that now it’s rare, but too abstruse, everything is fantasized with Strelkov.
              It became simply interesting, but in your eyes, who am I looking at, who am I like from the past? I'm not offended, really interesting.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 5 June 2016 10: 48
                -3
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                and in your eyes, who am I looking at, who am I like from the past?

                - Pop Gapon was like that. Provocateur, well camouflaged and slightly paid yes

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                I'm not offended, really interesting.

                - yes easy .. come in, do not be shy laughing
          2. Vitaly72
            Vitaly72 5 June 2016 05: 33
            0
            Dear, you are doing a futile task, trying to divide the world into white and black, in fact, everything is much more complicated
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 5 June 2016 09: 06
              0
              Quote: avt
              Sooner or later enlightenment comes

              If you know this, then others also know ...)
              Quote: avt
              Consolation of sectarians and softened idiots - potential victims of any sect

              That's right, but we are not like that;) which means ...
              Quote: avt
              But who lights the stars? This professor is already the second question.

              Well, finally, what, in general, was discussed ...
              Do not find it strange just such a sequence of events in this chain ... Maidan (destruction of the state) -Krym (military foothold) -Strelkov- Donbass (energy sector), see the result, then it is not difficult to draw a straight line into the future. And whose "kazyrnyj jack" it was really secondary and uncomplicated, with the condition if you are a non-sectarian, the question.
              Quote: Vitaliy72
              Dear, you are doing a futile task, trying to divide the world into white and black, in fact, everything is much more complicated

              They say that before examining wrinkles, one must decide where, on the pope or on the face. And yes, the world is much more complicated, which is why one should be skeptical about simple interpretations of events.
          3. Al1977
            Al1977 7 June 2016 13: 06
            0
            Quote: SPACE
            A double actor from the theater to Lubyanka, knowingly or in a dark role, a boy with a pipe, a rat dance, for money allotted to the Red Revolution by the State Department but nothing unsuspecting, a piece of litmus, at the same time, if necessary, it can also be a lightning rod for patriots and a thunderbolt Russian nationalism is on the heads of liberals, and if anything, then a discreditor.

            You know how to write a lot of meaningless words. Do you have evidence or just the language itches .. So you can scratch in other places. Advise where?
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 4 June 2016 17: 32
        +8
        Quote: avt
        Three hundred riflemen and bogeyman

        Or does it seem to me that we pay too much attention to the modest person of Strelkov and K? It seems to me that Strelkov, Babay and others are just cogs of those global processes that are taking place in particular in Ukraine. Although, if you think in such categories, such as: "Why did the revolution in Russia take place? - because the" German spy "Lenin arrived in a" sealed carriage "in Petrograd." Or, "why did the Soviet Union collapse? - because the marked Gorby surrendered the country," and so on. In the same way, one can "answer" the question why the Donbass exploded - because a gang of adventurers-touring performers, led by Strelkov, stuck to Slavyansk. Only, for some reason, no one asks the question, why did they come to Slavyansk, and not, say, Kiev, Lvov, or Vinnitsa? Maybe the point is not in the "guest performers", but in the "revolutionary situation" that has developed there? Nobody sent Strelkov to Donbass, on the contrary, he was urged from there along with Borodai and others. If Strelkov had not appeared there, someone else or a third would have appeared there ... The newly-minted "political heavyweight" Strelkov needs to understand that HIS FUNCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED LONG! Let him not suffer from political ambitions, but better - wait for "ANOTHER KNITTURK", which HISTORY will "throw" at him.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 17: 41
          -3
          Quote: Proxima
          why did they come to Slavyansk
          Perhaps the symbolism of the shooters in the title saw: Gloryяnsk - Slavs - the pan-Slavic world at hand of the white king - and so on. He didn’t know that this is actually the Slаvyansk smile
          Quote: Proxima
          The newly-minted "political heavyweight" Strelkov needs to understand that HIS FUNCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED LONG
          good Only he can not realize this - the crown has firmly grown to the head.
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 4 June 2016 18: 27
            +10
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Quote: Proxima
            why did they come to Slavyansk
            Perhaps the symbolism of the shooters in the title saw: Gloryяnsk - Slavs - the pan-Slavic world at hand of the white king - and so on. He didn’t know that this is actually the Slаvyansk smile
            Quote: Proxima
            The newly-minted "political heavyweight" Strelkov needs to understand that HIS FUNCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED LONG
            good Only he can not realize this - the crown has firmly grown to the head.

            He did not know that in two years several Internet patriots would stain a Russian patriot with "waste products".
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 18: 52
              -7
              Quote: razmik72
              He did not know that in two years several Internet patriots would stain a Russian patriot with "waste products".
              It is strange to hear this from a person with the name Mher and the Armenian flag on his avatar. Another member of the "infallible Strelkov" sect, only with foreign citizenship, will teach us how to love our homeland?
              For me, Strelkov ended when, despite his previous repeated statements about officer honor and the absolute inadmissibility of criticizing the decisions of the Supreme, corrected this very honor by communicating with the Nazi Prosvirnin and the political analyst Maid Belkovsky, he turned to direct (and mainly biased) criticism of the President and politics RF
              By the way, why are you, dear Mher, concerned about the fate of the "man of the Russian patriot"? Do you think that after coming to power (God forbid) he will solve the Nagorno-Karabakh problem for you? Or the Armenian diaspora with national-patriots with a monarchical bias, "oh, how will it heal?" I don’t think so.
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 4 June 2016 19: 35
                +12
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Quote: razmik72
                He did not know that in two years several Internet patriots would stain a Russian patriot with "waste products".
                It is strange to hear this from a person with the name Mher and the Armenian flag on his avatar. Another member of the "infallible Strelkov" sect, only with foreign citizenship, will teach us how to love our homeland?
                For me, Strelkov ended when, despite his previous repeated statements about officer honor and the absolute inadmissibility of criticizing the decisions of the Supreme, corrected this very honor by communicating with the Nazi Prosvirnin and the political analyst Maid Belkovsky, he turned to direct (and mainly biased) criticism of the President and politics RF
                By the way, why are you, dear Mher, concerned about the fate of the "man of the Russian patriot"? Do you think that after coming to power (God forbid) he will solve the Nagorno-Karabakh problem for you? Or the Armenian diaspora with national-patriots with a monarchical bias, "oh, how will it heal?" I don’t think so.

                Look at my comment below, I explained everything in detail there. I can again say:
                I fought myself and I don’t like that the honored veteran is mixed with mud, you didn’t even analyze his statements, only unfounded and unsubstantiated accusations of having connections with a wide range of marginal opposition, from fascists to liberoids.
                This begs the question:
                “But haven't you gone too far, gentlemen, Internet warriors, mixing with dirt a veteran who did not fear crossing the border illegally and leading the patriotic movement in Donbass?
                You can see all my comments, I have always sharply criticized the authorities of Armenia, very often I write that Armenia has only one ally - this is the Armenian army, we do not have a fleet. I have no special plans for Strelkov to come to power in Russia and will solve all the problems of Armenia at the Russian expense, unfortunately, your plutocrats will not allow him to come to power, they will in the worst case kill a patriot.
                1. Ami du peuple
                  Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 19: 52
                  -6
                  Quote: razmik72
                  I fought myself
                  Did you fight under Strelkov?
                  Quote: razmik72
                  honored veteran mixed with mud
                  We will not touch on Rifleman's merits - this is a separate issue. But nobody mixes it with dirt either - he himself entered this dirt. I repeat once again - a person who does not hold a word cannot be considered serious, especially when he is crucified about duty and honor.
                  Quote: razmik72
                  , only pedigrees and unsubstantiated allegations of ties to a wide range of marginal opposition, from fascists to liberoids.
                  Is not it so? Well then, look at the composition of the so-called. "Committee on January 25" - there is a pair of each creature. Igor Ivanovich is illegible in connections. Oh, how unintelligible.
                  Quote: razmik72
                  unfortunately, your plutocrats will not let him come to power
                  In this case, I am forced to say that fortunately. Regardless of my negative attitude towards most of our "elite"
                  Quote: razmik72
                  they will in the worst case kill a patriot
                  Who needs it ..
                  1. Vasiliev Yu
                    Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 00: 58
                    +6
                    Look at our critters in power. In your opinion: '' Vladimir Vladimirovich is illegible in his connections. Oh, how promiscuous ''?
                    1. Ami du peuple
                      Ami du peuple 5 June 2016 01: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: vasiliev yu
                      In your opinion: '' Vladimir Vladimirovich is illegible in his connections. Oh, how promiscuous ''?
                      And what am I defending Putin? Yes, more than a fig and more scum (to put it mildly) revolves around him. But if you are such a "light knight of a sad image," then why start your political career (if you really wanted to become the savior of the fatherland) with more than dubious connections? But for you, Mr. Girkin is still Dartanyan. And what's the point of discussing with you?
                      1. Vasiliev Yu
                        Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 02: 44
                        +3
                        And Putin, where did he start his political career, have you already forgotten? Or do I remember here, but I don’t remember there?
                        Mutually, to discuss with you sense, I do not see sense.
                        Have you ever noticed that almost all of you are negative, it does not make you think?
                        For you, Dartanyan is only you yourself, as I noticed.
                  2. CALL.
                    CALL. 5 June 2016 02: 59
                    +2
                    composition of the so-called "Committee on January 25" - there is a pair of each creature.

                    Here is the analytics of this committee. http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/111343
                2. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 4 June 2016 19: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: razmik72
                  lead the patriotic movement in the Donbass.

                  I saw the local action to be headed, I did not see it. When is he the leader nobility managed to become?
                  1. Ami du peuple
                    Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 20: 12
                    -1
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    When is he the leader nobility managed to become?
                    To witnesses Jehovah Strelkov this is not important - in their eyes he is an epic hero, an unsurpassed commander and an infallible knight in shining armor. Although, in fairness, it should be noted that he was the DPR Minister of Defense for three months after all. From this time, only a month was really in Donetsk, after his "successful departure with the planned panic" from Slavyansk. Until they asked for the exit.
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 4 June 2016 20: 37
                      +5
                      Quote: Ami du peuple
                      . Of this time, only a month was really in Donetsk,

                      And as soon as a serious kneading began, they removed it from there, and did the right thing, because it is useless - apart from "Putin bring in troops" and "they will destroy us within a week", as a military leader, he is not capable of anything.
                      And, lo and behold, the Nazis were broken off. And without any Girkin.
                3. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 5 June 2016 01: 18
                  0
                  Quote: razmik72
                  I have no special plans for Strelkov to come to power in Russia and solve all the problems of Armenia at the Russian expense.

                  - ah-re-net ... that's just what was missing belay
                  - "what's on the mind of a sober ..." ... here, for some reason it reminded

                  Quote: razmik72
                  Armenia has only one ally - this is the Armenian army

                  - which, damn it, feeds the Russian Federation. With a spoon, practically. See above - IMHO wonderfully echoes, the idea is simply transparent yes

                  Quote: razmik72
                  But have you gone too far, gentlemen, Internet warriors, mixing with the mud a veteran who did not fear illegally crossing the border and heading the patriotic movement in Donbass

                  - there is a different point of view on the role, in particular, of Strelkov in the Donbass. Quite the opposite, and there is evidence that this "point" is quite correct

                  Oh how request
            2. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 4 June 2016 21: 04
              0
              Quote: Shooters
              Yes, it is the national element that prevails in the movement at the moment. The ideologues of Russian nationalist (in the word “nationalist”, in my opinion, there is no negative meaning) organizations are actively working in the movement, which means they have every right to contribute their word.

              Quote: razmik72
              He did not know that in two years several Internet patriots would stain a Russian patriot with "waste products".

              Dear razmik72, but I would have begun to fear in your place. Well, if you are not in Russia, then at least for compatriots.
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              pan-Slavic world at hand of the white king

              Black hundred is in power! Do you think the pogroms should be expected, or this time will go the other way?
              1. Ami du peuple
                Ami du peuple 4 June 2016 21: 45
                -3
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                Dear razmik72, but I would have begun to fear in your place. Well, if you are not in Russia, then at least for compatriots.
                There is an ancient joke:
                The old Armenian is dying. Demands to bring to him all the children, grandchildren,
                fellow villagers, etc.
                He wants to say the last wisdom.
                When everyone gathers, he says:
                - Armenians, take care of the Jews !!!
                All with surprise:
                - Why not?
                - Armenians! Finish with them - they will follow us! ...
                So, the joke this respected razmik72 should be remembered. With the amendment, that the Armenians will be taken immediately, because Jews will not be kneaded today.
                Quote: Corporal Valera
                Black hundred is in power! Do you think the pogroms should be expected, or this time will go the other way?
                Who knows? I will not prophesy - and so something, recently, my assumptions come true with frightening regularity. My wife is already cautiously asking smile
                1. Vasiliev Yu
                  Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 01: 02
                  +1
                  Who knows? I will not prophesy - and so something, recently, my assumptions come true with frightening regularity. My wife is already cautiously asking for something smile

                  Please give a tip to Sportloto, I want a million.
        2. masiya
          masiya 4 June 2016 18: 34
          +2
          controversial, but logical, everything looks like it is ...
        3. avt
          avt 4 June 2016 20: 16
          +2
          Quote: Proxima
          Or does it seem to me that we are paying so much attention to the modest person of Strelkov and K?

          How to know, how to know ...
          Quote: Proxima
          "Strelkov needs to understand that HIS FUNCTION IS LONGLY COMPLETED!

          Oh oh He just started trying to spin and he willingly goes for it.
          Quote: razmik72
          .It is necessary to unprovenly attach patriot of the motherland to liberoids,

          I'll start crying right now! laughing Well, I'll try again, like that from the side of folk wisdom - "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are" Maybe Prosvirin is a Russian patriot? Belkovsky? Well, the old monarchist "who has been thrusting from the times of EBN into the kingdom of the Orthodox Russian Tsar" Michael of Kent? Maybe you will at least think so. Well, if you stupidly do not want to take the programmatic statement of Girkin / Strelkov about "the liberation of the Russian people from Brest to Vladivostok". Look for and find how Anal has already tried to free him, before he came to Yabloko he was also in the role of a liberator, he even got used to it that when he came to Yabloko he did not have time to get out, because the newly-minted fighter against corruption blurted out some local activist, a person of Caucasian nationality "- .. Shut up the black man ..." When I hear the chatter of ALL THESE NATIONALISTS - Belov / Potkin, Anal, Girkin / Strelkov, I somehow recall the meeting of two now deceased and very authoritative, in the literal sense of the word, the people at the Triumph / Logovaz, Berezovsky and Yegov Prize ceremony were awarded to Pitirim Volokolamsky, and as BAB told him, “We still have Russian fascism ahead of us.” despite all efforts, it does not flare up.
          Quote: razmik72
          He did not know that in two years several Internet patriots would stain a Russian patriot with "waste products".

          So you take it easy there on the Patriots' Games, lean on, and when your hands start to itch especially, stand in front of the mirror and look from whom they will “liberate the Russian people” and, according to the PMC's behest, scratch in another place.
        4. Vasiliev Yu
          Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 00: 53
          -4
          Quote: Proxima
          Quote: avt
          Three hundred riflemen and bogeyman

          Or does it seem to me that we pay too much attention to the modest person of Strelkov and K? It seems to me that Strelkov, Babay and others are just cogs of those global processes that are taking place in particular in Ukraine. Although, if you think in such categories, such as: "Why did the revolution in Russia take place? - because the" German spy "Lenin arrived in a" sealed carriage "in Petrograd." Or, "why did the Soviet Union collapse? - because the marked Gorby surrendered the country," and so on. In the same way, one can "answer" the question why the Donbass exploded - because a gang of adventurers-touring performers, led by Strelkov, stuck to Slavyansk. Only, for some reason, no one asks the question, why did they come to Slavyansk, and not, say, Kiev, Lvov, or Vinnitsa? Maybe the point is not in the "guest performers", but in the "revolutionary situation" that has developed there? Nobody sent Strelkov to Donbass, on the contrary, he was urged from there along with Borodai and others. If Strelkov had not appeared there, someone else or a third would have appeared there ... The newly-minted "political heavyweight" Strelkov needs to understand that HIS FUNCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED LONG! Let him not suffer from political ambitions, but better - wait for "ANOTHER KNITTURK", which HISTORY will "throw" at him.

          About `` KHALTURKI '' - rude and stupid.
          In your opinion, the war in Donbass is a `` hack '' for the inadequate and fools?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 5 June 2016 01: 00
            -4
            Quote: vasiliev yu
            In your opinion, the war in Donbass is a `` hack '' for the inadequate and fools?

            - in our opinion, for example - the war in the Donbass - a well and carefully organized provocation
            - there were movements to ruin everything in the world there. It could have happened, by the way
            - but then there were ... reenactors negative
            - and then according to the standard - word for word, horseradish on the table ..
            1. Vasiliev Yu
              Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 03: 00
              -1
              Oh, the officials pulled themselves up. I remember, I remember your `` amazing economic calculations. ''
              Are you an expert on Ukraine now?
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 5 June 2016 10: 40
                -2
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                I remember, I remember your `` amazing economic calculations ''

                - then the banter was, if you did not understand laughing
                - By the way - what exactly are you there .. remember that?
                - I'm not an economist nirazu, therefore - all calculations on "strongly economic" topics - either stupid banter, or on a drunken blue lol

                Yes, by the way: comments on the Constitution do not apply wink

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Are you an expert on Ukraine now?

                - no .. to Ukraine, as such, I don't give a damn and forget
                - I live in the Russian Federation, I have been living for a long time, I’m used to it already ... in Ukraine, my friends were on a campaign, they ended

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Oh bureaucrats pulled themselves up

                - But you said too much ... midshipman negative
                1. Vasiliev Yu
                  Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 14: 21
                  +4
                  I just want to remind you of how it was when you began to scold Nabiullina, our banks, Ulyukaev, how you violently began to protect them.
                  By the way, what I midshipman is proud of. He himself went to the UKOPP (Training Red Banner Scuba Diving Unit) in St. Petersburg to study (from Krasnaya Gorka, if anyone knows what it was). True, the future company commander persuaded him to study precisely at ZASovets.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 5 June 2016 18: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    I just want to remind you of how it was when you began to scold Nabiullina, our banks, Ulyukaev, how you violently began to defend them

                    - won't you indulge with a reference? I really want to see what is there who "fiercely covered", but I can not find in any way belay
                    - I belong to the characters you listed ... but I do not belong. I just think that everything is a little more complicated in fact than it is customary to consider (all transplant-shoot-pass-and everything will be Coca-Cola at once. Will not be).

                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    By the way, what I midshipman is proud of

                    - Yes, for God's sake, your right ... I was slightly offended by your "officials pulled themselves up", tk. this definition does not apply to me ... well, not in the slightest request
      3. razmik72
        razmik72 4 June 2016 18: 01
        +9
        [quote = avt] [quote = Baracuda] And it was worth it to remove the Arrow for "other work"? [/ quote]
        [quote] Elections, elections, candidates ... "
        “But can’t this phrase be cut out?”
        - What?! For her, everything was written ... [/ quote] laughing Yes you are! Yes, make this whole piarastic sabbath about, Three hundred riflemen and babay "In the MK named after the monarchist Pavel Gusev with the attached Belkovsky, it was ordered, and it was done! screwed up to the fullest and now they are like rats tearing the remains from each other's mouths. So I had to shovel the song straight into "And the cavalry goes along the Swamp cavalry and drag an armored train on ropes" with the inscription "Colonel Girkin / Strelkov" For ov [quote] On Saturday, two important events for Russian patriots took place, which were expectedly ignored by the majority of obedient media: the Committee on January 25 evolved into the All-Russian National Movement under the leadership of Igor Strelkov (ONM), and finally the organization's political declaration was approved and published. [/ Quote] Of course, Strelok " laughing Raise biannual comments - EVERYTHING was painted there, his entire timetable and how Putin will be opposed.
        Well, of course, now Igor Strelkov is recruited ..., the most likely addresses of the recruiter are the United States, Langley, the CIA. This is an old trick - to accuse a person who is not pleasing to the authorities for all mortal sins, you will never wash off, this technique was used by all the special services of the world, Cheka-OGPU-MGB-NKVD-KGB-FSB including. It is necessary to anoint the patriot of the Motherland with liberoids without proof, and then you look, the majority of the people believe that "the king is not real." Dear Akula, you wrote a great commentary, there are a lot of letters, but there is no point, except for unsubstantiated accusations against the address of a real Russian patriot. All his trouble is that he dared to criticize the Supreme, who, as I see, on this site is a tsar and god .I could keep silent, after all, these are your internal Russian showdowns, but for my misfortune or happiness, I fought myself, and I don't like it when the honest name of the honored veteran is trampled into the mud by a few not clean Internet dealers.
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 5 June 2016 09: 56
          +3
          I apologize, but who "attached" him to Prosvirin? Or is he also a “patriot of the Motherland?” We don’t need such “patriots”, thank you.
      4. CALL.
        CALL. 5 June 2016 01: 52
        +2
        the main thing is that it will be activated under the current election and if this dog wedding in the form of movement somehow cut through at least a millimeter

        A sort of general swan in a modern reading.
        1. avt
          avt 5 June 2016 10: 27
          -2
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          A sort of general swan in a modern reading.

          Gora-a-azdo is smaller. The swan, not appreciating his political actions and deeds, was also for politics ... more textured - he didn’t get into his pocket, and the reaction was good, and as a field commander, it’s an order of magnitude higher, really from the battalion to the army level Hey, got out.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 4 June 2016 16: 33
      +32
      Baracuda! 16.01/XNUMX. And who sponsors Kudrin? Either he is at a rally with a white ribbon, Either he is brought closer to the government. Who is Kudrin working for?
      1. Felix
        Felix 4 June 2016 17: 39
        .
        Quote: 34 region
        Baracuda! 16.01/XNUMX. And who sponsors Kudrin? Either he is at a rally with a white ribbon, Either he is brought closer to the government. Who is Kudrin working for?

        Listen ... Both monarchists and fans of Navalny work in my team ... but all together they do one thing under the watchful eye of a leader.
        And it makes absolutely no difference to me who a person taps in his spare time from work, as long as there are no complaints about his work ..
        1. 34 region
          34 region 4 June 2016 18: 32
          +12
          Felix! 17.39. In general, Bolotnaya, Navalny, Kudrin and Strelkov do one thing under the watchful eye of a leader. It turns out so?
        2. kenig1
          kenig1 4 June 2016 18: 54
          -6
          Do not compare, incomparable.
          1. avt
            avt 4 June 2016 20: 55
            +3
            Quote: kenig1
            Do not compare, incomparable.

            Well, when will you all turn on your brain and learn about the world by comparing real facts, and not network glitches ???? Well ? Stupidly too lazy to watch the broadcasts of the rallies on Bolotnaya and Arbat ??? They are ALL there! Well, liberals, homosexuals, nationalists and leftists! And everything under its OWN banners! And on the podium the same horseradish, but a personal appearance from the dead Nemtsov to the inmate Udaltsov and Girkin will also be there - he will come for the "protest electorate" - he does not dare to call them voters, or the curators will bring them like the snob Kasyanov - no difference .
            1. kenig1
              kenig1 10 June 2016 09: 01
              0
              Wake up, you are far away.
        3. Homo
          Homo 4 June 2016 19: 22
          +1
          Quote: Felix
          Both monarchists and fans of Navalny work in my team ...

          You spelled "fans" correctly. Fans love and support idols from afar, from the outside, mainly by populist methods, without investing large amounts of money, without making drastic steps, without expressing a willingness to go "for anything." Unlike supporters and fans! wink
        4. masiya
          masiya 4 June 2016 20: 45
          -1
          THIS IS THE NEED OF LIBERASTI OF RUSSIA, THE FSB ACCOUNTED, and without us you will be taken into account ...
      2. masiya
        masiya 4 June 2016 20: 46
        +3
        Рђ РєСѓРґСЂРёРЅ СЂР ° Р ± отР° РµС ‚РЅР ° Р“ РћРЎР ”Р • Рџ РЦРУ СЃ РђРќР '...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 4 June 2016 20: 52
          +11
          Quote: masiya
          Рђ РєСѓРґСЂРёРЅ СЂР ° Р ± отР° РµС ‚РЅР ° Р“ РћРЎР ”Р • Рџ РЦРУ СЃ РђРќР '...

          Рђ кто РІРѕР · РІР ° Р »РљСѓРґСЂРёРЅР °, можете ответить?
          1. masiya
            masiya 4 June 2016 21: 30
            -1
            Kudrina called his golem liberal intellect of the enemy of Russia (hidden and meanly working ...), who wanted a strange idea ... to tear all Russia apart, and then re-hack for free, what was left, to distribute to partners and destroy the Russian Federation to the GLORY of the USA ... this Already a full cubicle, and we all look at them ... and look forward to reforms ...
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 5 June 2016 01: 58
            -1
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: masiya
            Рђ РєСѓРґСЂРёРЅ СЂР ° Р ± отР° РµС ‚РЅР ° Р“ РћРЎР ”Р • Рџ РЦРУ СЃ РђРќР '...

            Рђ кто РІРѕР · РІР ° Р »РљСѓРґСЂРёРЅР °, можете ответить?

            “You will take an interest in exactly where Kudrin was called.” He is nobody. Wedding General, type yes
            - I repeat: the phrase "keep your friends close, and enemies even closer" has never lost its relevance

            IMHO, yes yes
    3. poquello
      poquello 4 June 2016 16: 34
      +4
      Quote: Barracuda
      And was it worth it to take Arrow off to "another job"? request Who sponsors it? A "cabinet" with a secretary does not give power to everyone.

      I don’t turn on Zyuganov, so I’m getting there, it’s a nightmare, but there may be a coincidence, but Strelkova really can’t hear or see
      1. razmik72
        razmik72 4 June 2016 18: 05
        +9
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Barracuda
        And was it worth it to take Arrow off to "another job"? request Who sponsors it? A "cabinet" with a secretary does not give power to everyone.

        I don’t turn on Zyuganov, so I’m getting there, it’s a nightmare, but there may be a coincidence, but Strelkova really can’t hear or see

        Is it not clear that Zyuganov is no longer a communist or even a socialist, but a court mongrel.
        1. poquello
          poquello 4 June 2016 18: 48
          +4
          Quote: razmik72
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Barracuda
          And was it worth it to take Arrow off to "another job"? request Who sponsors it? A "cabinet" with a secretary does not give power to everyone.

          I don’t turn on Zyuganov, so I’m getting there, it’s a nightmare, but there may be a coincidence, but Strelkova really can’t hear or see

          Is it not clear that Zyuganov is no longer a communist or even a socialist, but a court mongrel.

          Why are you daddy Zyu so rude, the old horse will not ruin the reputation of the authorities (he knows the limits of criticism), and he won’t ever win, including Zyu, Zhirik, etc. like systemic opposition.
    4. russkiy redut
      russkiy redut 4 June 2016 20: 46
      -3
      He threw himself into the camp to the enemies.
    5. g1v2
      g1v2 5 June 2016 00: 24
      -5
      On fig he was returned to Russia? Would have plopped in the bushes-dumped on ukrovskaya drg. Like hera died and all that. Well, now in Russia he throws poop into power and the Nazis PR. request In general, in vain he was allowed back. Let us hope that someday this wretched one will be useful, although it is hard to believe.
    6. Rarog
      Rarog 5 June 2016 17: 12
      +6
      Sponsor ali no, side ... that’s the real problem he voiced. Strelkov can be treated as you like, but you should not turn a blind eye to the permissiveness of curls, chubais, basil, stools and other pests, mind you, those who are (well, except Vasilyeva, and this is not a fact) are still at the helm, unlike harmless hamsters - kasyanalny and kasparevichy who are used as a scarecrow for the People. While they scare us with an unsystematic opposition, systemic liberals continue to destroy our homeland and our people. In this, I completely agree with Igor Ivanovich.
  2. avvg
    avvg 4 June 2016 16: 13
    +8
    Is it really so sad?
    1. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 16: 55
      +11
      It's up to you to decide. The facts are stated, it is not difficult to double-check them. The main thing is to have a head on your shoulders in order to draw your own conclusions, and not imposed (blind Uryapatriots) and the category "this is such a cunning plan ... already a thousandth, and nothing that while he is only in fantasies like the rest."
      1. poquello
        poquello 4 June 2016 17: 11
        +2
        Quote: Nosgoth
        "it's such a cunning plan ...

        but without a cunning plan it doesn’t happen, the whole question is how cunning is it
        First of all, we did not recognize them as our military personnel, they said that “we are not there” and that they quit. Nowhere has they been publicly written about them, not mentioned. Russia did not defend their rights in any way.

        I don’t know for the rest, but here either stupidity on a fundamental basis or profanity, if not, then no, and you don’t speculate on this
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 38
          +4
          Quote: poquello
          but without a cunning plan it doesn’t happen, the whole question is how cunning is it

          Those. Do you think that thousands of people killed in LDNR - it was so conceived from the very beginning?

          A "cunning plan" that no one knows about, even the one to whom it is attributed, is just an excuse and an inability to soberly assess the situation.
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 4 June 2016 18: 12
            -1
            Quote: Nosgoth
            Those. Do you think that thousands of people killed in LDNR - it was so conceived from the very beginning?

            A "cunning plan" that no one knows about, even the one to whom it is attributed, is just an excuse and an inability to soberly assess the situation.

            Please flare with intelligence, enlighten your ability to think soberly, Mr. Fix do you have an alternative plan?
          2. poquello
            poquello 4 June 2016 18: 15
            +2
            Quote: Nosgoth
            Quote: poquello
            but without a cunning plan it doesn’t happen, the whole question is how cunning is it

            Those. Do you think that thousands of people killed in LDNR - was this conceived from the very beginning? ...

            Do you doubt that dill was ready to kill?
            or are you going to blame Russia for these thousands? then let's listen to your options
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 4 June 2016 18: 46
              +5
              Quote: poquello
              Do you doubt that dill was ready to kill?

              So far, mainly the Armed Forces of Ukraine participated on their part - there wasn’t much shooting. But when the law-enforcers and national battalions formed from the Maidan hundreds arrived, including Kolomoisky’s children (remember how they shot unarmed people on May 9, 2014 in Mariupol?), Then the blood poured - it was they who rocked the situation .
              If you ask any Euro-Ukrainian why he stood on the Maidan and what he killed "cotton wool", he will tell you that he fought for Ukraine and burned "Colorado" for the sake of the bright future of the Ukrainian people, and for this reason he is not a nazi, nor a murderer, but simple Ukrainian patriot.
              Girkin gathers around him the same, "nationalists", they will even have tires from the same manufacturers.
              1. poquello
                poquello 4 June 2016 19: 52
                +3
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Quote: poquello
                Do you doubt that dill was ready to kill?

                So far, mainly the Armed Forces of Ukraine participated on their part - there wasn’t much shooting. But when the law-enforcers and national battalions formed from the Maidan hundreds arrived, including Kolomoisky’s children (remember how they shot unarmed people on May 9, 2014 in Mariupol?), Then the blood poured - it was they who rocked the situation .

                You are somewhere in the wrong place, the top was ready, then a technical question.
                Quote: Gray Brother

                If you ask any Euro-Ukrainian why he stood on the Maidan and what he killed "cotton wool", he will tell you that he fought for Ukraine and burned "Colorado" for the sake of the bright future of the Ukrainian people, and for this reason he is not a nazi, nor a murderer, but simple Ukrainian patriot.
                Girkin gathers around him the same, "nationalists", they will even have tires from the same manufacturers.

                and I don’t know, in the article there isn’t
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 4 June 2016 20: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  You are somewhere in the wrong place, the top was ready, then a technical question.

                  I do not deny this, I pay attention to who they operated on. Who are the performers?
                  Quote: poquello
                  and I don’t know, in the article there isn’t

                  Well, check out.
                  http://shturmnews.info/content/komitet-predatelstva-rossii-25-yanvarya-tochka-zr
                  eniya.html
                  Excerpts of texts written by subjects with links to sources are given.
                  For all the symptoms, these are real maydaunas.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 June 2016 16: 13
    0
    "I believe that as the socio-political, social situation in the country worsens, more and more people will listen to us."

    The optimist is blue-eyed.
    1. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 16: 58
      +8
      He is right. Example Europe. At first, most Europeans greeted refugees with outstretched hands, but over time, more and more people in Europe understand that "something went wrong, or everyone is just technically ...", and the left-wing parties have more supporters (in times). The states of Europe bury themselves ... no matter how our bureaucrats make such a mistake ...
      1. Viking
        Viking 4 June 2016 17: 06
        +6
        Just the last elections in Europe showed that the left - all kinds of socialists and other centrists - is losing support. And more and more votes are being given to the right.
        1. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 46
          +3
          I guess I didn’t put it right. Just not strong in directions (left, right, under the bench, etc.)

          I meant the parties that are in opposition to the current politicians and their lines (the US suppressors) and defending national interests, the same "National Front" of Marine Le Pen, as an example.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 4 June 2016 16: 59
      +29
      Mauritius! 16.13. Why not? If the authorities are not able to organize the functioning of the country. There are proposals for the sale of state property to private hands. Reason to get money which is not in the budget. Guys! But after receiving the money and distributing it, what else will we sell? There is no money but you hold on !? He poses the question correctly. Which way will the people vote? He does not speak of a violent change of power. He talks about an extreme situation. And the creation of a national guard personally subordinate to the president is not preparation for an extreme situation? And the increase in the number of calls on a direct line? Is the country reborn? Therefore, Medvedev was surprised at the lack of roads in Volgograd. The whole country is on the rise and only here is the reserve of decline! So far, we have only successes in the army and the military-industrial complex. Is it thanks or contrary? Suppose there is a rebellion on the outskirts. Which side of the barricade will we go to? Which leader? There were no such leaders on the outskirts. Are we very different from the outskirts? We have an army! On the outskirts there was also an army and navy. Who are they following? We do not like that !? Our money on offshore companies do not poke and do not offer to be integrated into the structure of the West even with a cesspool? We are laughing, Ukraine CE Europe! But they themselves are trying hard to get in there! Why?
      1. SergeBS
        SergeBS 4 June 2016 23: 30
        -1
        Quote: Region 34
        Mauritius! 16.13. Why not? If the authorities are not able to organize the functioning of the country. There are proposals for the sale of state property to private hands.

        And the men didn’t know. laughing
        And what did the unforgettable Bear-labeled and EBN do?
        Not for sale, no. They simply gave this state property at a symbolic price. Or not?
        We look at 404 - where it led.
        Did you eat "Bush's Legs"? So it was paid off from a monkey with a nuclear grenade so that it would not explode.
        Now "a little" is different.

        Quote: 34 region
        Which way will the people vote? He does not speak of a violent change of power. He talks about an extreme situation. And the creation of a national guard personally subordinate to the president is not preparation for an extreme situation? And the increase in the number of calls on a direct line? Is the country reborn? Therefore, Medvedev was surprised at the lack of roads in Volgograd. The whole country is on the rise and only here is the reserve of decline!

        All-crawler? To begin with, I recommend to study how and most importantly WHY Kuwait appeared. And ask yourself a question - well, if the National Guard there - would it take a ride?
        And definitely, in comparison with the era of Gorbach-EBN - we have a decline. Not only is there something to devour, but we also do not obey commands from overseas. And quite successfully. The same sanctions break off. For the third time, the USA is starting a simple trick: "There will be a war in Europe, they will fight among themselves and shed blood there, and we will do our business on this and AGAIN - the most important and wealthy."
        For the PAST war, the capitalist was consumed and incurred into debt. The next thing to start.
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 4 June 2016 17: 43
      -8
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The optimist is blue-eyed.

      More like a scavenger. For the second year now I have been observing one independent "nation state" and I do not want Russia to turn into the same thing.
      A nation state is a state of one dominant nationality; Girkin has a good program.
      And where the hell will the rest go? In Untermenschi will record the galleries? am
      I understood his program - to wait until it’s completely shitty and finish off the country, otherwise the USSR left too much of a piece, it is necessary to reduce it.
      Look, what a ghoul.
      1. the lord
        the lord 4 June 2016 21: 59
        +4
        Wow, what a multi-way! And you, excuse me, did not have fractures in your mind when you tried to outline Strelkov’s plans?))))))
  4. Blondy
    Blondy 4 June 2016 16: 16
    .
    In computer toys, zombies look better.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 48
      +9
      What are you talking about, girl?
  5. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 4 June 2016 16: 16
    -3
    Bonaparte without a genius. Only ambition.
    1. avt
      avt 4 June 2016 17: 00
      -6
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Bonaparte without a genius. Only ambition.

      Do not insult Bonya! Banal dull Gapon.
      Quote: LÄRZ
      I have a question (from the movie "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession"): at whose expense this "banquet"? From whose hands does the Shooters "feed"?

      Well, firstly - take your time to live and find out how about Anal just now; secondly - well ... the main claw in Girkin’s bogged down - all of Strelkov’s disappear.
      Quote: LÄRZ
      "Sing, swallow, sing" (where the hell are you from?). And if you "shake" it in a normal way, and the money will come to light, and "legs" where they come from.

      Here he reconstructs the fate of the priest Gapon, if he does not jump off now, but there is no mind and strength for this - to wriggle out from under that so that he climbed. But Pedichka Limonov jumped off the step ahead of time - he felt the heat under the ass. Well, there will be a complete reconstruction of the fate of Gapon, then -, he went through the corridor and finished with a wall, it seems "And it will not be possible to jump off, as it was from Donbass," I said bully
      1. mostov70
        mostov70 4 June 2016 21: 36
        +5
        Well, these two were responsible for their words, one sat, the other fought. All the rest only in tongues and strictly downwind from the Kremlin peaks.
    2. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 17: 43
      +15
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Bonaparte without a genius. Only ambition.

      You can only respect him because he organized resistance to banderlogs, fought, and not stupidly tapped the clave with cheers-patriotic slogans. But I'm sad that now everything turned out like that with him. He was supposed to remain a Hero with a capital letter in history, but it did not work out, and this is sad.
      1. mostov70
        mostov70 4 June 2016 21: 38
        +9
        And what's wrong with him now. If the first channel and others like it are no longer praised - this has changed the position of officialdom. not Strelkova.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 48
      +5
      You, as I understand it, from the category of geniuses?
      But in fact - Russia just needs Bonaparte.
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 4 June 2016 18: 04
        -4
        Definitely needed, but with abilities and without personal interests. Unfortunately, such people became extinct.
      2. SergeBS
        SergeBS 4 June 2016 22: 31
        -3
        Quote: NordUral
        But in fact - Russia just needs Bonaparte.

        "Good suggestion. What did Bonaparte do and how did he end up as a result? State the consequences for France ...
        And what did not Schiklgruber suggest? He solved the problems even more sharply. And what did you end up with? Announce the consequences for Germany ...
  6. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 4 June 2016 16: 16
    -8
    what dictated the renaming of the January 25 Committee to the All-Russian National Movement
    I have a question (from the movie "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession"): at whose expense this "banquet"? From whose hands the Shooters "feed"? Again, the talking shop of people who are not responsible for anything and do nothing specifically.
    No street promotions we while not planning.
    Well thanks, gave a break, benefactor!
    We have neither administrative nor financial resources.
    "Sing, swallow, sing" (how the hell are you?). And if you "shake" it in a normal way, and the money will come to light, and "legs" where they come from. There are a lot of you like that in Russia lately, and we'll figure it out with you.
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    2. Thinker
      Thinker 4 June 2016 16: 33
      0
      Here Strelkov was a hero and became ... It doesn’t matter what he does there, but it’s important that he said at the moment, About the transfer of the convict by the way to his homeland. About our guys and the difference in receiving one and the other ... It became unpleasant for me too. Let it certainly be so. Specialists know better.
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 00
        +12
        What did he say? They admire some scum in Ukraine, but about the Russian guys (even if they said about them that they are simple volunteers) - they are stupidly officially silent. What is the mind of specialists? On the banderlozhy side is full of different mercenaries, can they? and with ours there, are just volunteers, and they are not worth a kind word?
        1. Thinker
          Thinker 4 June 2016 20: 34
          +1
          I mean that they didn’t take ours like that. That they disowned them for a long time, they officially said, we don’t have an army there. Yes. Even with them, the main thing is that people are at home with their families. Here it is probably more reassuring and pleasing to me. Well, they didn’t accept it with chic, probably it should be so. Even so, alive and with children and wives. I'm not talking about volunteers who returned home ..
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      2. SergeBS
        SergeBS 5 June 2016 00: 10
        0
        Quote: Denker
        About the transfer of the convict by the way to her homeland.

        Don't worry so much. I also thought at first - "some kind of garbage", and now I look - they threw fresh yeast into the local toilet. Bombanet!
        Well, and the "national heroine" - at least verbanuli, at least not, but the great martyr for nezalezhna she no longer shines.
        The "symbol of the heroic struggle" has disappeared. wassat
        And as the WHOLE MP wink this specialist in "flat roll, round drag" - non-acid firewood will break. The hymn has already been, the next step is verification. Well, then - we line up from here (from zRada) to the fence with a song and posters. laughing
        Unless an "accident" is arranged.
    3. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 00
      +2
      Do you think it is necessary to deal with it?
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  7. Altona
    Altona 4 June 2016 16: 19
    +19
    I don't quite understand his interview, but there is some truth to it. Now all the opposition forces say that the economic course laid out and, as its continuation, is a political disastrous course. It's true. For some reason, instead of generally full titties of our own strength, we are constantly looking for the blood-sucking tentacles of the West, and we give our titties to be sucked by the same West, and anyone else, just not our own population. The terms "nationalistic, all-Russian" are alarming. What is behind this? Everyone is playing with these terms. In principle, Strelkov voiced part of the LDPR program. It seems that, in fact, some of the theses are correct, in Milosevic's plan. But other goals are somehow vaguely defined. Who will we go with? Who will be our allies? Or will it be some kind of "Russian Juche"? I didn't understand him partly.
    1. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 05
      +14
      Have you even read? He pointed out that the path of movement is still being developed (doctrine, so to speak). If this bothers you so much, then contact him and offer your solution, who's stopping you? except for a warm sofa ...
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 4 June 2016 18: 10
        .
        Quote: Nosgoth
        Have you even read? He pointed out that the path of movement is still being developed (doctrine, so to speak)

        I am sure that in alliance with the nationalists he will develop a doctrine no worse than that of the "Right Sector" banned in Russia.
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        2. Thinker
          Thinker 4 June 2016 20: 37
          0
          Well, why are you my friend so radical then? -Ways he went a lot (minus not mine)
      2. Altona
        Altona 4 June 2016 18: 12
        +3
        Quote: Nosgoth
        Have you even read? He pointed out that the path of movement is still being developed (doctrine, so to speak).

        ---------------------
        If the doctrine is "just being developed", then it must adhere to the already existing patriotic national forces. Alone, everyone seems to be smart, but now the time of singles and small parties has passed. We need a nationwide consolidation in rejection of the selfish and disastrous course of the leaders.
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 4 June 2016 16: 20
    -7
    We have neither administrative nor financial resources.
    Like: "Give me money!" How quickly Strelkov from a real Hero, whom he will remain forever, turned into a completely routine politician, occupying a place somewhere in the very tail of public attention ... As a person and an officer I respect, as a politician - ...
    1. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 03
      +14
      Why dig so deeply under the phrase about administrative and financial resources? So in the view of Dzhakonda it will be possible to see the condemnation of the imperialist ambitions of the United States)))).
      And the transition to politics was inevitable - if you do not listen to yourself, you must force
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 4 June 2016 20: 37
        -3
        Quote: znavel
        Why dig so deeply under the phrase about administrative and financial resources?

        Afiget! request
        But what is this behind, if not a request for money? what Well? what
        Tell the pensioner: what if it is an appeal in no case to vote for this movement. They don’t have money! request
        1. the lord
          the lord 4 June 2016 21: 46
          +4
          This is an elementary message that they are not bought by someone. Doesn't that read in his words? Such blindness from a "pensioner" is strange. And all the more sorry for such a poor fellow if he only votes for those for whom the loot))))
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 5 June 2016 06: 59
            +1
            Quote: znavel
            all the more

            what
            Zelo is ... sad
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 5 June 2016 07: 08
              +2
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Zelo is ..

              Packy packs request My life is more .... crying
              1. evil partisan
                evil partisan 5 June 2016 08: 34
                +1
                Quote: Ruslan67
                My life is more ....

                What is your life stinking dog crawling sofa ??
                Hello Arctic Arctic! drinks
    2. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 06
      +7
      Do you hate United Russia too? Or "I see here, but not there"?
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 52
      +11
      So Stalin was once considered a third-rate functionary.
  9. Viking
    Viking 4 June 2016 16: 21
    -2
    Yeah. Strelkov himself is actively drifting actively in the wrong direction. Does he bet on nationalists? And this is in a federal, multinational state ... There is enough nagging that they say the Russian people are the most disadvantaged. Who can say what, for example, Mordvinians or Circassians have advantages in our state over Russians?
    1. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 05
      +19
      Mordvinians and Circassians have their own republic, flag, ruler, Ministry of Internal Affairs and their own branch of the FSB. And also the territory (especially among the Circassians), where you can hide for decades from criminal liability
    2. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 11
      +16
      Quote: Viking
      Does he bet on nationalists?

      Your statements I recall the statements of European politicians regarding the PEGIDA movement, etc. in Europe. Like, they do not assert their rights and freedoms, but simply nationalists (almost fascists) and do not care that there are a lot of ordinary citizens (already aged) - these are just youth extremist groups ... Although our media (including RT) actively speak that these are simple patriots, and law-abiding citizens, on which you need to level off.

      Doesn’t resemble anything? For example, a policy of double standards?
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 09
        +6
        Well, just before we called Le Pen fascist, now they write differently. You do not need to take on faith everything that is written, you yourself need to think and then agree with this, or disagree.
        Everyone has not yet thought up a carbon copy, although they are trying.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 54
      0
      With emphasis on nationalism, I also disagree with it. Our country is complex and a lot of nationality. Although about the cornered Russian people - this is the holy truth, but do not pedal it now. In the unification of all sane citizens of Russia, our hope for the success of the country and people.
      1. Bath
        Bath 4 June 2016 20: 02
        +6
        And the Russian question in our country has never been pedalized))) they simply didn’t go unnoticed and they all die out by a lyama in a year well after 200 years they will remain like Lapps two thousand here it is and the country is multinational again the guarantor declares birthrate forgets that she rushing only in the national republics, but this is of course a question of prospects not today, we won’t rock the boat better than roll up our sleeves and like crabs on galleys winkalways loot pianists in offshore Honduras you always know with such people you need to have spare space at least in a decaying Geyropa and even better in the hated USA they scouts will take revenge then Abramovich’s nigrams will be taken away to them in New York like a kid having bought three buildings to connect them and fuck them up the damnators didn’t give the pool, you see, it will ruin the historical view of the city, you can immediately see it is mute in our democracy, then Luzhok Moscow has purely historically fixed the HEAD))))
  10. AID.S
    AID.S 4 June 2016 16: 24
    +10
    I share the assessment of the AI ​​of what happened, but what about the forecasts .... everyone has them.
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 4 June 2016 21: 03
      +10
      Quote: AID.S
      I share the assessment of what happened AI


      I also certainly share the position of IIS. ALL Shooters are right. Just as he, I see, understand and appreciate.
      The authorities do not have a "cunning" plan. There is a surrender of the Russian world to everyone who asks, for the sake of humiliating forgiveness for "sins" (which, meanwhile, will NEVER be).
      There is a vile propaganda that surrender is a victory.
      The policy of the authorities is stupid, criminal and disastrous.
      Strelkov must go to the polls. Of course, they will defame, as here, and there is no money.
      Patriots in Russia are moneyless, alas.
      But it is NECESSARY to fight, there are a lot of normal people, and the power itself has managed a lot, there are chances! yes
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 4 June 2016 21: 55
        -3
        Quote: Aleksander
        There is a vile propaganda that surrender is a victory.

        Let me ask, is it Crimea, surrender or victory?

        Quote: Aleksander
        The policy of the authorities is stupid, criminal and disastrous.

        After these categorical words of yours ...
        I completely agree with you in the following ...
        Quote: Aleksander
        Patriots in Russia are hopeless, alas.


        "As our beloved chef says:" If a person is an ediot, then this is for a long time! " K / f Brilliant hand.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 June 2016 16: 29
    +3
    I will express my own opinion. This patriot replaces Russian patriotism with Russian nationalism. "Union of the Russian people" - not? But Strelka did not have the "insight" that with his "performance" in Donbass he prematurely radicalized the situation, which led to the current "clinch", and that it was not in vain that he was "removed" from Donbass? And after all, they did not "bang", they neatly removed - and what did it become? Is he ready to take responsibility for Russia? He knows that Putin "will lose the REMAINS of popular support ..." Because he does not want to follow his not the cleverest advice? Strong! At the beginning of everything, I very carefully read and listened to everything that Strelkov said. And after a short period of time, when Strelkov had already become a minister, the understanding came that he was a Poser!
    In a multinational country, one should not replace the concept - Russian - with the concept of Russian. Racism was never peculiar to the Russian people. Also me, the Fuhrer of the Russian nation.
    1. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 14
      +20
      Yeah, banish the Russians in a common brew pot, well ...
      The Union of the Russian people? - No, in the ranks of its movement are representatives of leftist views
      Prematurely radicalized Donbass? Was it necessary to wait until the "pisi yarosh" would start shedding blood on the streets of Don cities?
      Not banged, but carefully removed, rejoice? Would you be like that if you were him? Is there a girl sitting at the account?
      Putin may well lose the remnants of popular support. Here, in the last nightingale show, two persons monkized - Kurghinians and Gozman. Duck Kurginyan revealed the recipe for negotiations: to outline the scope of his interests; search for common interests: the negotiations themselves; and at the weakest one there is a manifestation of reeling in positions. This negotiator is the loser. Duck, this is precisely the position of the Putin side right now wagging in the negotiations like a flea little dog)))).
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 4 June 2016 17: 16
      +22
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      that he is a Poser!
      The most important Poser in the country is Putin. All these endless PR campaigns with fighters, yellow viburnum, amphoras, dolphins, bathyscaphes, etc. etc., as well as ostentatious "hot lines" with the people, on which they cannot clearly answer any question, this is natural posturing. At the same time, the average salary in the country has become lower than neighboring China (!!!), prices are constantly growing, the ruble is in a fever in all directions, corruption and theft in all echelons of power are wild, billions of money are taken out of the country to offshore, and Putin's best friend and adviser Kudrin again proposes "to be integrated into the Western economy on the sidelines."
      As for Strelkov, he very quickly realized that the oil prices and overseas "partners" tied to the American dollar would not be supported by the Russian authorities in the Donbass, so he left.
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 24
        +2
        If someone does not know, Strelkova was asked to leave because he is a Russian, and the residents of Ukraine stood up at the head of the Donbass according to the passport. They asked him to leave so that they would not show in the West for obvious non-ordinary Russians in the war in the Donbass.
        1. poquello
          poquello 4 June 2016 18: 54
          +5
          Quote: Vasilyev u
          If someone does not know, Strelkova was asked to leave because he is a Russian, and the residents of Ukraine stood up at the head of the Donbass according to the passport. They asked him to leave so that they would not show in the West for obvious non-ordinary Russians in the war in the Donbass.

          by the way, I wrote earlier that Strelkova is not visible in the media, but not in the dill - there Strelkov is a song, a living embodiment of Russian intervention
        2. SergeBS
          SergeBS 4 June 2016 22: 42
          0
          Quote: vasiliev yu
          If someone does not know, Strelkova was asked to leave because he is a Russian, and the residents of Ukraine stood up at the head of the Donbass according to the passport.

          This is only the most convenient version for the all-consuming Strelkov. As on the other - the consequences of the actions of the new "Baron Wrangel" at Slavyansk had to be URGENTLY shut up so that there would be no breakthrough and defeat.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 4 June 2016 20: 44
        +1
        At the same time, the average salary in the country has become lower than neighboring China (!!!), prices are constantly growing, the ruble is in a fever in all directions, corruption and theft in all echelons of power are wild, billions of money are taken out of the country to offshore, and Putin's best friend and adviser Kudrin again proposes "to be integrated into the Western economy on the sidelines."

        In what units do you think your salary is? In green candy wrappers? And you consider hamburgers. Stop carrying liberal propaganda.
        And when did Kudrin become Putin's "friend"? An advisor is often needed exactly one that expresses the opposite point of view. Otherwise he is not an adviser, but a compromiser, and will lead you into the jungle ... Kudrin is not at all, he is a professional, but he is not a politician at all. This phrase, about "Embedding Russia in the technological order of the world, at least on a secondary role, in exchange for" softening the position "- this is what he did not write or say before. After the LADY drove him out, he was "led" out of resentment and led to the liberals. VVP listened to how he got stuck there - I realized, well, and ... Is he working on his advice?
        By the way, it was Kudrinomika that saved production in Russia, which has now begun to develop. But what was done with the production of "petrodollars", I observed with my own eyes. This cash flow was not good for production. People started buying imported equipment, not realizing that it needed to be serviced, repaired, bought consumables, etc. Now the situation has changed, and it STOPPED! KOLOM! And cheap imports have almost killed the light and food industries. And if they let "petrodollars" into the budget, as Zyuganov, for example, sought, - a dollar would cost 15 rubles, and in Russia it would be unprofitable to produce anything at all! This is called the loss of economic sovereignty.
    3. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 26
      +8
      Do you always read diagonally? Or are you just trying to pull your hypotheses by the ears?

      Union of the Russian people, not Russian nationality !!! And as everyone knows, the Russian people are multinational.

      For example, I see this as the solidarity of all those who call themselves Russian from external threats aimed at splitting society. And Russians are not necessarily those who were born in Russia, they can be native Spaniards, Brazilians, Indians ... yes, even Americans with British, BUT they must be assimilated into Russian culture, and not live in separate groups in which the laws of the country where they live do not really act, and they themselves are trying to impose their own laws ... these are just foreigners, even those born in Russia (like the same Kudrin, etc.), but "pushing" us the politics / laws / orders of another state ... These individuals are not the Russian people for one hundredth of a percent.

      Russian is not a nationality, nor a race.

      Is the upholding of the Russian world (which, by the way, our officials, including the president) talk about, isn't that the same thing? But for some reason, for them, the Russian world and the people are different things. In the first case, for them - this is the territory on which their power extends, but the people ... yes, even if there are Uzbeks or Chinese, the main thing is to serve this territory. Something like this turns out in the end :-(
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 00
        +15
        I agree with you - I am half German by parents, Russian by the second half. Father - German Volga region, mother from the Vologda wilderness. And I myself am Russian, and they will die. And there are many such families where the children of those who live for hundreds of years in the vastness of our great Motherland have become related. I will not list nationality, there are dozens of them.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 4 June 2016 22: 42
        -4
        The "Union of the Russian People" is a Black Hundred organization dating from the time of the First Russian Revolution. 1905 year. And my message was exactly there. The organization was openly racist, marked by Jewish pogroms with numerous murders.
  12. fzr1000
    fzr1000 4 June 2016 16: 31
    +27
    You can relate to Strelkov as you like, but much of what he describes looks alarming. And talk about the police in the Donbass, and about Kudrin. And we ourselves see that the internal policy of the government continues to be comprador, and officials as borzoi, and continue to not see the edges.
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny 4 June 2016 16: 38
      -5
      but what else should he go on? everything is as always and everywhere: poking a finger at the obvious to advocate for something like: let's replace all the bad with all good, only his actions are clearly not enough for trying to try on the role of the savior of the fatherland, and there’s so much turbidity around
      1. bovig
        bovig 4 June 2016 20: 02
        +6
        Quote: vanavate
        but what else should he go on? everything is as always and everywhere: poking a finger at the obvious to advocate for something like: let's replace all the bad with all good, only his actions are clearly not enough for trying to try on the role of the savior of the fatherland, and there’s so much turbidity around

        And why, indeed, not replace all the bad with all the good? Or is this, as it were, not what we need? We just need the Serdyukovs and Vasilyeva to return to the government, since Kudrin has been returned ... And who is this Strelkov, who dared to make such comments to our Supreme? Yes? That's right, let's all those who are trying to emerge in the political arena against the power of compradors led by Medvedev-Kudrin, begin to cheat and jam! And then we will live happily under the canopy of the West according to the plan of Kudrin! And we’ll bend well, so maybe the sanctions will also be lifted!
        1. vanavatny
          vanavatny 4 June 2016 20: 33
          -4
          replacing everything bad with everything good is called utopia - historical examples in bulk even in a school textbook, now 2016, not 1937, and to criticize anyone and anything you don’t need a special mind or courage, especially since the obvious idiocy of the economic and other blocs government is clear and time-tested. and I don’t believe suddenly appearing missions: without experience, without a team, without a program.
    2. poquello
      poquello 4 June 2016 17: 19
      -6
      Quote: fzr1000
      You can relate to Strelkov as you like, but much of what he describes looks alarming. And talk about the police in the Donbass, and about Kudrin. And we ourselves see that the internal policy of the government continues to be comprador, and officials as borzoi, and continue to not see the edges.

      excessive drama is peculiar to him, then LDNR ends if the RA does not enter, then LDNR has already been merged
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 30
        +3
        It’s good to twist sitting on the couch, another thing is under fire when almost the entire territory of Donbass was taken by banderlogs in early 2014, in the first months of the formation of the republics.
        1. poquello
          poquello 4 June 2016 20: 33
          +3
          Quote: Vasilyev u
          It’s good to twist sitting on the couch, another thing is under fire when almost the entire territory of Donbass was taken by banderlogs in early 2014, in the first months of the formation of the republics.

          and sho? RA didn’t enter, LDNR is intact, but he had already predicted about the drain from Russia, and probably more importantly what they think about police parasion in LDNR and not in Russia
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan 4 June 2016 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: fzr1000
      and officials as borzoi, and continue to not see the edges.

      My dear fzr1000!
      And please tell me: in what country do officials go in what social order and do not see the coast and see the coast? USSR - do not offer ... repeat
      And in general: what about the general ZFIR is there new data or not? wink
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 4 June 2016 18: 15
        -3
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        in which country go under what social structure officials do not greet
        There is such a moment. Officials and other members of the government can be arbitrarily millionaires, businessmen, etc. etc., but if the country has laws and a high standard of living, then by and large it doesn’t give a damn. A vivid example is the USA.
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 4 June 2016 20: 30
          +3
          Quote: Greenwood
          about if the country has laws and a high standard of living, then by and large it doesn’t give a damn. A vivid example is the USA.

          2 hands FOR an American social device. yes
          Even I forgot or still not: but in the 90s, what did we copy then? And have you received? what I’m leading to the fact that there are no universal recipes. Like it or not, national features will arise. And your example is not a panacea - where, where, where in the US officials know how to steal. yes Detroit to help you ... sad
          hi
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 00
      +2
      Exactly!
      http://delyagin.ru/articles/94791-posle-privatizatcii-uzhe-budet-bez-raznitcy-kt
      o-prezident-rossii.html
      Please read all!
  13. dr. sem
    dr. sem 4 June 2016 16: 35
    +2
    Gentlemen, pedriots and witnesses to GDP + LADIES, stock up on canned food, for no further than 2018 all hedonistic junk (real estate, cars, trinkets ...) will depreciate to "0". Only food and self-defense will matter. Whoever wears "rose-colored glasses" is better to break them ... And yet, throw all the "zombopropagondaschiki" out of the house, from the dacha ... Even in the Soviet Union, there was NO such propaganda donism on federal channels ...
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 4 June 2016 16: 59
      +16
      Has already. And "Saiga" 12-gauge, and cartridges with buckshot. I don't watch the zomboy. Just want some advice? Don't "Wangui" the end of the world, don't. Nothing supernatural will happen. Only it will be better. But about the USSR - not necessary. That level of propaganda in Russia cannot be achieved. Now this level is only in the DPRK.
      1. gg.na
        gg.na 4 June 2016 18: 27
        +4
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Now this level is only in the DPRK.

        Et yes soooooooooooooooooo !!! good
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 02
      +2
      In vain minus, gentlemen, comrades.
    3. gg.na
      gg.na 4 June 2016 18: 24
      -2
      Quote: dr. sem
      for no further than 2018 all hedonistic junk (real estate, cars, trinkets ...) will depreciate to "0". Only food and self-defense will matter. Whoever walks in "rose-colored glasses" better break them ... And yet, throw all the "propaganda zombies" out of the house, from the dacha ...

      YES YOU CUT A PERSON I WILL LOOK AT THE ALL-SUCH belay HERE AT US what !!! Now for a minute lol oh and for a minute wassat I will join the cons! yes
      1. dr. sem
        dr. sem 4 June 2016 18: 37
        -1
        And in a crowd, it's not scary to beat a mammoth. The brain, then COLLECTIVE and your own is not needed ... Well, congratulations. You are "in the mainstream"!
        1. gg.na
          gg.na 4 June 2016 19: 12
          0
          Quote: dr. sem
          You are "in the mainstream"!

          I honestly admitted to you in my minus, so you seem to have rushed offense! Or not?! I made a mistake? Okay, let's not quarrel over some minus the pros. Then here’s what tell me where such confidence comes from that by 2018 this could happen as you described above where I put a minus to you !?
          1. dr. sem
            dr. sem 4 June 2016 19: 48
            +3
            After "fair" elections to the state dupa, all "ideas" of the Ministry of Finance will be instantly accepted: raising the retirement age, cutting salaries ... raising the Central Bank rate, etc. We now have almost 30 million beggars, and what will become after the "mad printer" working off the state order can not be imagined ...
            And, on the "cons" -sat. Whoever thinks about this garbage is HERE General ...
            1. Vasiliev Yu
              Vasiliev Yu 5 June 2016 01: 38
              +2
              Already from the health service there was recently news on the central channel: it turns out we began to live well, now we live to be 70 years old.
              Pretty sneaky reception for a future increase in the retirement age.
            2. gg.na
              gg.na 6 June 2016 10: 01
              0
              Quote: dr. sem
              After "fair" elections to the state dupa, all "ideas" will be instantly accepted

              We will live wink will see!
  14. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 4 June 2016 16: 38
    +8
    You look at all this ... poisoning, when will we start living quietly ?, when will it all end? Is it really Russia's inheritance from one crisis to another to step, balance on the edge of the abyss and steadfastly overcome all this. When will we land on one shore and anchor?
    1. Vasiliev Yu
      Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 38
      +6
      When they cease to do ... crayfish in power to remove stupidity from some posts, and appoint to others. When they do ... they'll just kick the crayfish out in disgrace, then it will be much better with the roads.
    2. bovig
      bovig 4 June 2016 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: Sergey-72
      You look at all this ... poisoning, when will we start living quietly ?, when will it all end? Is it really Russia's inheritance from one crisis to another to step, balance on the edge of the abyss and steadfastly overcome all this. When will we land on one shore and anchor?

      Is it calm?)))) It will be in another life!))))) After we drop the anchor ...))))))
    3. kit_bellew
      kit_bellew 6 June 2016 00: 07
      +2
      Quote: Sergey-72
      You look at all this ... poisoning, when will we start living quietly ?, when will it all end? Is it really Russia's inheritance from one crisis to another to step, balance on the edge of the abyss and steadfastly overcome all this. When will we land on one shore and anchor?

      Yes, never. At least as long as there is an enemy who wants us to die - as a people, as a state, as a civilization.
      Hardly anyone will like it, but the war is against us already still coming. It did not end in 1242. It did not end in the 1380th. It did not end in the 1721st. In the 1791st. In the 1812th. In the 1856th. In 1918 and in 1922. It did not end either in 1945 or in 1991. And it won’t end until we do with this enemy what we did with the Khazar Khaganate.
      I recall a joke about a hunter and a bear. The one in which the bear at the end says: man, are you on a hunt or have a picnic?
      Given the fact that our sworn friends are gaining might and main in the army Well ... fuck homosexuals, they really want to communicate with us wassat Only now it’s time for us to eat them, otherwise all the nerves are exhausted.
      1. gg.na
        gg.na 6 June 2016 10: 04
        0
        Quote: kit_bellew
        and then all the nerves are exhausted.

        All the blood through is inflicted sucked wassat To you + !!! good
  15. volodya
    volodya 4 June 2016 16: 38
    -8
    I read until the middle, the most natural Natsik, now the same in Ukraine, only they seized power!
    1. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 16
      +10
      And in what he showed himself Natsik here?
      1. Nosgoth
        Nosgoth 4 June 2016 17: 32
        +14
        And the fact that he (volodya) mastered only half of the text, and then according to the principle "if I cannot understand this, then this is bad" :-)
    2. poquello
      poquello 4 June 2016 17: 26
      +8
      Quote: volodya
      I read until the middle, the most natural Natsik, now the same in Ukraine, only they seized power!

      in Ukraine for you for a different opinion they can stick a barbed wire into your ass, I didn’t see any similarities
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 June 2016 16: 41
    +18
    Zombies are zombies, but what is the issue? After all, Strelkov is right, we all wrote repeatedly that our government, with the exception of the Moscow Region, is amorphous, the devil works for whom. Take that Ministry of Education, that Ministry of Finance, that Ministry of Economic Development and so on. Education is ruined, the economy is in the ass, only bankers and power engineers live with us, enterprises are either closed or are just barely fluttering, prices are rising by leaps and bounds. Everywhere, fuel prices are falling, only here, regardless of oil prices, gasoline rises in price. Management and officials are shoveling money, and hard workers for 12-15-20 thousand spin as they can. Isn't that true. Of course there is something to think about.
    1. bovig
      bovig 4 June 2016 20: 24
      -2
      Quote: Ros 56
      Zombies are zombies, but what is the issue? After all, Strelkov is right, we all wrote repeatedly that our government, with the exception of the Moscow Region, is amorphous, the devil works for whom. Take that Ministry of Education, that Ministry of Finance, that Ministry of Economic Development and so on. Education is ruined, the economy is in the ass, only bankers and power engineers live with us, enterprises are either closed or are just barely fluttering, prices are rising by leaps and bounds. Everywhere, fuel prices are falling, only here, regardless of oil prices, gasoline rises in price. Management and officials are shoveling money, and hard workers for 12-15-20 thousand spin as they can. Isn't that true. Of course there is something to think about.

      The fact of the matter is that in the government (the president does not count) the TWO ministries only work for the interests of Russia: Shoigu and Lavrov! The rest ALL work against Russia, hastily plundering the remnants ... Such as Strelkov give signals, crushing these compradors from below, which is PUTIN’S HAND! Otherwise, he himself does not cope with this pack ... Who does not like Strelkov - be touched by Fedorov-patriot! Vote for United Russia, and you will be happy!
  17. mag nit
    mag nit 4 June 2016 16: 49
    .
    Girkin began to play.
  18. Indifferent
    Indifferent 4 June 2016 16: 52
    +7
    Here is a very competent article by Khazin about what awaits Russia in the near future. One may disagree with some points, but overall it is written very well. This is not what Strelkov tells.
    http://politobzor.net/show-95146-sistema-sderzhek-i-protivovesov-putina-nachinae

    t-menyatsya-na-glazah.html

    As for Strelkov's article, it jars me that he focuses on Russianness and monarchism. It won't work with monarchism. Somehow they don't like kings in our country. Historically not accepted. But with his Russianness, Girkin reminds me of his recent enemies, with whom he began to fight mainly because of their "Ukrainianness". It turns out that a person with all his weight gets on his own rake. What did Mr.-Comrade Girkin fight for?
    I want to note one more thing. Elections are ahead. And suicides in our power somehow were not noticed. No one is going to stir up a barrel of shit so that it stinks a lot. Therefore, no one will promote any issues of Donbass, no economic "reforms" by Kudrin, no monarchism, let alone liberalism. And there how the cards will fall!
    I respect Strelkov! This is an honest and courageous person. Great officer! But what he offers now is very similar to the statements of another colonel - Kvachkov. He, too, was going to seize the falling power. Where he is now well known.
    1. the lord
      the lord 4 June 2016 17: 23
      +10
      I agree only with one thing - he declared himself to be a monarchist, and this hindered in many ways. But with regards to Russianness, who can it warp, Sevkavkaz? In response, I recall, in his movement there are many people of left-wing views. This is not a party, but a movement. But why, nevertheless, Russianness — right now, it’s precisely they who kill it at the ruin, it is precisely Putin who plays it like a unit in warcraft — they crushed it, cut it here, we’ll survive, the main thing is that Russia is settled. And whether it will be Slavic or Prairan, or Mongoloid, to today's rulers on the side. Taxes would go to the treasury
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 06
        +4
        Taxes would go to the treasury
        They are not interested in it, only their profit.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 05
      +4
      All mixed up. And Kvachkova was wronged. Well, he is not a hellist, he is just an honest officer, and therefore he lost to the cheaters in power.
    3. 3vs
      3vs 4 June 2016 19: 04
      -5
      Thanks for the link!
      Mikhail Khazin is the smartest man ...

      And there’s nothing even to discuss the topic.
      Girkin did things in Slavyansk and merged.
      These "comrades" are evil for Russia,
      some kind of childish reasoning, God forbid the power falls into their hands,
      worse than in Ukraine will be!
    4. bovig
      bovig 4 June 2016 21: 20
      +3
      Quote: indifferent
      Here is a very competent article by Khazin about what awaits Russia in the near future. One may disagree with some points, but overall it is written very well. This is not what Strelkov tells.
      http://politobzor.net/show-95146-sistema-sderzhek-i-protivovesov-putina-nachinae


      t-menyatsya-na-glazah.html

      As for Strelkov's article, it jars me that he focuses on Russianness and monarchism. It won't work with monarchism. Somehow they don't like kings in our country. Historically not accepted. But with his Russianness, Girkin reminds me of his recent enemies, with whom he began to fight mainly because of their "Ukrainianness". It turns out that a person with all his weight gets on his own rake. What did Mr.-Comrade Girkin fight for?
      I want to note one more thing. Elections are ahead. And suicides in our power somehow were not noticed. No one is going to stir up a barrel of shit so that it stinks a lot. Therefore, no one will promote any issues of Donbass, no economic "reforms" by Kudrin, no monarchism, let alone liberalism. And there how the cards will fall!
      I respect Strelkov! This is an honest and courageous person. Great officer! But what he offers now is very similar to the statements of another colonel - Kvachkov. He, too, was going to seize the falling power. Where he is now well known.

      Monarchism will not work unambiguously, but this wave will be useful, because it is directed against the "liberal" (according to Khazin) elite ... To some extent, this wave will help to strengthen Putin's position.
  19. kam4atka
    kam4atka 4 June 2016 16: 52
    -5
    In vain, he started all this. He no longer pulls on a leader, much less a monarchist. Changed, not for the better.
  20. cedar
    cedar 4 June 2016 16: 59
    +16
    "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched..!"
    Guys, don’t cut off your shoulder about Strelkov.
    And please do not confuse nationalism with Nazism. Then the National Guard
    protect you from the Nazis.
    And so, in the fall we will see ...
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 4 June 2016 17: 12
      +2
      Quote: cedar
      Do not count your chickens before they are hatched..!"

      Good thought, really wait and see ...
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 4 June 2016 18: 07
      +3
      In the autumn it will be necessary not to look, but to make a decision. In the meantime, read more and think.
    3. gg.na
      gg.na 4 June 2016 18: 32
      0
      Quote: cedar
      And so, in the fall we will see ...

      Yes, I have the same opinion that there will be a day — there will be food! We will wait for the fall there and see everything! yes
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  22. dr. sem
    dr. sem 4 June 2016 17: 25
    +6
    Quote: Blondy
    In computer toys, zombies look better.

    Play on, don't bother ...
  23. Pitot
    Pitot 4 June 2016 17: 28
    -5
    Shooters tactics, but not a strategist.
  24. dr. sem
    dr. sem 4 June 2016 17: 29
    +8
    "The assembly of Mercedes in the Moscow region will provide the company with access to public procurement

    Given the restrictions on foreign cars introduced in Russia in terms of public procurement, the localization of production in Russia can be very useful for Mercedes.
    Russian production of Germans will be focused mainly on the domestic car market and the production volume of 25 thousand will cover the lion's share of Russian demand for cars of the same brand.

    I would like to note that under the crisis conditions, it is the premium segment that feels most stable, and Mercedes sells the most in Russia. So last year the Germans sold 41 cars of the company in the domestic car market. "
    This is GENERAL WHAT! In conditions of impoverishment, "" it is the premium segment that feels most stable "??? Parallel Worlds, however.
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 4 June 2016 17: 38
    +10
    I support! It is time for Putin to decide with both Novorossiya and the liberals. Just tell the people - I am you. Support me and I will remove the occupation regime imposed on me by the "family", I will support and protect Donetsk and Lugansk. And that means a referendum. Or two across Russia and across Novorossiya. Enough to retreat and hide behind cunning plans!
    Or tell us and New Russia - I am not with you, but with kudrin, Gref and red.

    Here is an article by M. Delyagin, which clearly explains the situation in the country: http://delyagin.ru/articles/94791-posle-privatizatcii-uzhe-budet-bez-raznitcy-kt
    o-prezident-rossii.html
    There is still much interesting and requiring reading and comprehension.
  26. Igor V
    Igor V 4 June 2016 17: 41
    +12
    Jarred in the first comments, hanging bunches of labels on the hero of the article. I know from experience that those who put up labels cannot say anything worthwhile. A man came up with his ideas, shared his worries for the country, immediately rushed to the pack ... I myself can’t imagine mono-ethnic Russia - it will already be a different country, but I completely share the worries, the economy must be changed radically in order to survive, and Kudrin will not.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 4 June 2016 18: 33
      +4
      "The first comments", but the "officers' daughters" from the FSB were prescribed ...
  27. Neputin
    Neputin 4 June 2016 17: 42
    +18
    Well, of course ... When Strelkov fought in Slavyansk, he was a hero. Now, when he was pushed aside, it became unknown by whom. Why were they pushed back? Yes, because the struggle for independence in its purest form has grown into a section of "spheres of influence", sawing attendants and other showdowns a la the 90s. This is what we have observed over the past 1,5 years. Just analyze the situation over time. Now everything is more or less settled down. And Strelkov is offended, of course. But he talked about it and it was from this that his gradual rejection began. Besides, he's not all wrong. Some things are very common sense. You don't have to represent everything as either black or white. There are nuances, as they say ...
  28. Valter1364
    Valter1364 4 June 2016 17: 45
    +10
    Some kind of double opinion from the article. On the one hand, it is disgusting to see how the "Great Oracles" Kudrins and Grefs are trying to convince you every day from all the irons and screens of the country of the bright future of raw capitalism.
    On the other hand, Girkin, for me, is definitely a decent person who knows what officer honor is.
    The smell of liberals is much more nasty, that's a fact. And first of all, it is necessary to air Russia from them.
    And in Russia, I believe. Everything will be fine with her. Our country has such a fate.
  29. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 June 2016 17: 50
    0
    Yes ... A bad soldier who does not want to become a general. But even worse is the general who never went further than a soldier. Another "destroy to the ground and then ..."
  30. niksan2002
    niksan2002 4 June 2016 18: 30
    -4
    You’re discussing everything. And why did Srelkov appear in Ukraine? Who allowed him? Then he disappeared for a while, appeared again, but for a different purpose. Why didn’t he ally with Zhirinovsky? It’s like a liberal. Maybe Putin gives himself an opposition, legal?
  31. avva2012
    avva2012 4 June 2016 18: 31
    -3
    I read in LJ, a blogger article ryboved. I don’t really understand how she relates to her. Dual sensation. Source: http://ryboved.livejournal.com/129957.html
    Hypocrisy has no limits. The main guards of the tricolor regime, supporting Putin’s cowardly anti-Soviet policy that led to the war with Ukraine, a policy saturated with the stenchful Yeltsinist spirit of the “Declaration on the Independence of the Russian Federation,” are now trying to portray themselves as either “dissenting” or “unsystematic”, whether "belolentochnyh". Like, we were galloping for Novorossia, and Putin and Surkov — the traitors did not send troops (the “north wind” does not count). Only Strelkov-Girkin, as expected, fought against dill - and all sorts of Surkov-Akhmetov’s bezler, Khodakov’s, zharchenki, and the like sent Cossacks only put sticks into the wheels. Consequently, only Girkin is a true Russian superhero, and a "bright spot", in contrast to the exaggerated alpha Siberian Crane. In a word, they play the role of “oppositionists”. At the same time, they, characteristically, do not forget to kick the national leader for the "Syrian adventure."
    That is, drawing Russia into a suicidal war with Ukraine from the point of view of these so-called “nationalists” is not an adventure, but bombing the bearded fighters for “freedom and democracy” in faraway Syria is simply a terrible crime against the Russian people. This “opposition” is explained very simply. You don’t even have to resort to complex class analysis. It's all about the notorious State Department. The Russian-Ukrainian war is a real success for the Americans, but the VKS operation in Syria is not beneficial for them, since it strengthens the positions of Russia and Iran in the Middle East and brings disagreement in Washington’s relations with the Saudi monarchy. Apparently, the glory of “Azov” and “Right Sector” is haunting some people in the Russian Federation - they also want to ride “for democracy”. And since it is not handy to do this without Western support, they are trying to lick “one partner” one place. But, in fact, how should Russian “nationalists” differ from Ukrainian in this regard?
    The Strelkov propaganda campaign once again proves that the bourgeoisie needs Putin only as absolution and all sins will be blamed on him, including the failure of new Russian politics in Ukraine.
    When the storm begins ... And it begins - the management of the capitalists over a quarter century led to the degradation of the country and this will not pass without a trace. When the storm begins, no one will protect Putin, on the contrary, they will tell us that he personally stole everything. Therefore, those who hope that with the help of Putin will be able to prevent a fascist coup in the Russian Federation are very mistaken. These are empty illusions. Putin began to throw right now, when he is strong. What will happen in a minute of weakness?
    Girkinsky is a very slippery breed of people. They contradict themselves at every step, they say one thing or another, depending on what is beneficial to them at the moment. So, for example, they simultaneously tell tales about how "Bandera Ukrainians" kill Russians, and in other cases they declare that there are no Ukrainians at all, and the entire population of Ukraine is Russians. In short, they are schizophrenic. All this is necessary in order to confuse and blabber the question of international fascism, which is gaining ground as the crisis in the former USSR develops.
    Fascism is not the rule of "nationalists", but the dictatorship of finance capital. On the example of Ukraine, we can clearly see the true state of affairs. The nationalist demagogy of Girkin, just like the nationalist demagogy of Poroshenko-Yaroshes, serves only the interests of the local business thief and his Western partners. There has never been and never will be a Ukrainian national revolution, but there is only a liberal-fascist regime jumping to the tune of the United States. Exactly the same will happen in the Russian Federation, and all this will be based on Girkin's "nationalist" demagogy.
    1. abasheva55
      abasheva55 5 June 2016 02: 27
      -2
      Mr. Girkin rushes about like a g ,,,,, in an ice-hole, not knowing where to stick. And if he has like-minded people who receive a salary from the State Department, is he a "patriot"? Something takes doubt. All of them tell fairy tales well, there are a lot of divorced writers and everyone is striving for power. You won't get good gentlemen, you won't have Yugoslavia. do not wait for Ukraine Russia has been and will flourish. And all these "heroes" like the Girkins and other shit will be in the dustbin of history along with his books
    2. abasheva55
      abasheva55 5 June 2016 02: 27
      +1
      Mr. Girkin rushes about like a g ,,,,, in an ice-hole, not knowing where to stick. And if he has like-minded people who receive a salary from the State Department, is he a "patriot"? Something takes doubt. All of them tell fairy tales well, there are a lot of divorced writers and everyone is striving for power. You won't get good gentlemen, you won't have Yugoslavia. do not wait for Ukraine Russia has been and will flourish. And all these "heroes" like the Girkins and other shit will be in the dustbin of history along with his books
  32. MP
    MP 4 June 2016 18: 34
    +3
    To understand who the shooters are and what drives them, read his books. Some consider him a pawn of the West. In this I strongly doubt. Read his books and you will get quite a definite idea about this person.
  33. Vasiliev Yu
    Vasiliev Yu 4 June 2016 18: 46
    +10
    I read all the comments, it pleases how many people still respect Strelkov, and many of his thoughts are true, many agree. And what will happen next, wait and see.
  34. Des10
    Des10 4 June 2016 18: 48
    -1
    As a result, he was tired of everyone and waved him off as a fly swatter until they hit him.
    Here is the last interview he rejected many from himself, neither fish nor meat. And he showed - his curators are leading him. Not independent.
    1. Des10
      Des10 4 June 2016 20: 14
      0
      minusoids - it's a shame, right? :)
      Unfortunately, all the more or less significant values ​​in the system of relations are dependent.
  35. Tim
    Tim 4 June 2016 18: 57
    +10
    Look how many commanders of the DPR and LPR have already died (who did not dare to criticize the top of the DPR and LPR, the completely incomprehensible story with the leaders of the DPR and LPR their (impeccable) past makes us ordinary people think, now these political games of the leadership of the Russian Federation (honestly reminds Yugoslavia )
  36. dr. sem
    dr. sem 4 June 2016 18: 59
    -2


    Think with the brain, not the clave!
  37. dr. sem
    dr. sem 4 June 2016 19: 23
    -3
    Quote: dr. sem


    Think with the brain, not the clave!

    1. 1536
      1536 4 June 2016 21: 03
      -1
      Well, what to do? Put others who will speed up the half-life process? Haponism is some kind and nothing more!
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  38. 23424636
    23424636 4 June 2016 19: 51
    +11
    the meaning of the article is the same: Strelok as an instrument of Russian opinion in Ukraine is annoyed by the statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry about the police mission which, in his opinion, leads to the surrender of Donbass. In other words, using the flattery and certain tips of its advisers, Gorbachev was led to peace games with an adversary. I think the GDP needs to go through the cemeteries where the soldiers and civilians killed for Russia in the Donbass lie and ask relatives of the lost relatives from shelling and fighting what to do rather than broadcast through Lavrov’s lips supporting Valtsman’s remark about the police mission, which he himself could not give birth a priori forever and issued it as a hint from the State Department. The shooter was at the Yugov and knows a lot personally. Therefore, his reaction is correct as an answer to the Masonic conspiracy.
  39. masiya
    masiya 4 June 2016 20: 37
    -9
    Comrade Strelkova (Girkina) is taking the wrong place, something strange has been manifesting in the past year and a half, some kind of tendency is emerging that everything is wrong and that they themselves have surrendered half of Donbass after leaving SlavYansk, it was possible to hold out .. .
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  40. 1536
    1536 4 June 2016 20: 49
    +14
    Russia is indeed slowly but surely following the path of Yugoslavia. This path is beneficial primarily to the "elites" who seized power in the 90s. They can only be resisted by a united people following the example of the Crimean people. It will not interest me at all who the Western "partners" will throw in the Spandau or Guantanomo prison. Seriously. One of them has already been banned from entering Ukraine, despite all his services to the US Republican Democratic Party and the government of this country. But because of a bunch of idiots and crooks, I don't want to lose my own country for the second time in my life!
    As for the "police mission" in Donbass specifically, this can only be allowed on condition that Russian peacekeepers enter Donbass from the side of the Russian-Ukrainian border under the flag of the UN or OSCE - it doesn't matter. It is important that these will be our Russian peacekeepers, and not the Danes or, God forbid, the Swedish landsknechts. Now we need to throw all our strength into this, and stand to the death, and not on the "Kalinka-Malinka" or some meter peregrine falcons on the tower of the Foreign Ministry skyscraper in Moscow. Have you gone crazy? Or do they really think they will go to Argentina along the beaten path?
  41. atamankko
    atamankko 4 June 2016 20: 54
    -7
    How many "saviors" of Russia have already been, but things are still there.
  42. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 4 June 2016 21: 12
    +6
    How complicated it is. In order not to be captured by "double standards", it is necessary to define the terminology.
    Who should be considered Russian?
    Russian is a man
    1) for whom the native language is Russian (thinks in Russian)
    2) knows, understands, respects and appreciates Russian history, culture, customs.
    It follows from this that the question of the genetic component in determining Russian nationality is not significant. The history of the Russian people is complex and tragic. Those who tried to take up their pedigree will discover the roots of different nationalities, which corresponds to the history of the Russian people. From this, in the first place, the real Russians cannot be fascists. Remember, Hitler and his minions dreamed of a pure Aryan nation, conducted experiments on people — they were fascists. The ancestors of the Russians did not conquer, but conquered new lands, did not colonize the local population, and shared knowledge. The Russians were attacked, there were wars, we won, but did not make our enemies slaves. Historically, for Russians, the presence of genes of different nationalities is the norm.
    When the question of Russians is raised, it is wrong to call these people fascists. It is about preserving Russian culture and traditions, among which there is a mixture of different nationalities. Perhaps this is one of the characteristic features of the Russians: our ancestors never raised the question of their superiority over other nationalities, which made them different from any "exclusive" rabble, who are the descendants of thieves and robbers, colonialists, slave owners, which they have done wrong before God.
    The Russian question that Strelkov speaks of actually exists. The world needs peace, and the fact that the Russians have a habit of ending the war, i.e. they bring peace, the peoples of those countries know where the foot of the Russian soldier set foot. They know and remember.
    Only Russians have the concept of will. We understand this, but even impossible to translate into another language, they don’t have such a concept. There was a wonderful article by Roman Skomorokhov on VO and excellent comments on VO. To us Russians, the will is understandable, but not to others.
    And also, as my grandmother consoled. She said to a desperate person: "Enough sun, enough light." Think about what level of spiritual purity and freedom should be in order to believe that only the light emanating from the sun is needed for life, and the Russian person will decide everything else: a new harvest will grow, and a new house will be built, everything is solved.
    The descendants of the colonialists see the whole world as their colony,
    the descendants of slaves want to become masters,
    the descendants of free people are free themselves, and they see others free and bring freedom to the world.
    Real Russians see the world free, equal in right to life.
    1. Lens
      Lens 4 June 2016 23: 12
      0
      It’s just too simple for you with the concept of a Russian person .... I have many friends ... Yes, and I probably fall into your own terminology, although neither I nor friends who I know are Russian. Soviet - yes, but Russian ... Well, it’s not my fault that my mother is a teacher of Russian language and literature. I still remember a lot of Russian classics. I can quote. I think I’m talking, I know the customs and have relatives in Russia, but I myself live in Ukraine. And my views on some aspects of the history and politics of Russia, to put it mildly, do not give me the right to consider myself a Russian person. This is if according to your formula. And my friends, my acquaintances, are also unlikely to agree with your arguments. Narrowly took the concept of Russian people!
  43. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 4 June 2016 21: 53
    -6
    Please note that for the collapse of the USSR, nationalists were used. Russian nationalism can also be perfectly used. To excite other nationalities with the transition to nationalism. What if someone does not agree (and it will be), then apparently repression and confrontation.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 4 June 2016 21: 58
      0
      As for Girkin, I would still be careful not to write to the patriots. First you need to remember how everything happened and in what environment. The opinion is of course compiled by the press.
      In Kiev, the coup. Everyone talks about the desire of the United States to draw Russia into the conflict. How? Crimea has already left. Attack the Crimea is not an aggression of Russia and Ukraine has no strength. In short, suicide.
      There are unrest and, accordingly, repression in the country. In the Donbass, people are excited and disagree with the new government. Local leaders all toenail, no one to organize for
      some actions. Girkin appears here. The junta is sending troops. Sitting begins in Slavensk, and it is the seat. APU could effortlessly take Slavensk. I remember how
      gallant special forces smashes a checkpoint where 5 militias with 3 berdanks (snatched up for clips). And ... moves away, leaving everyone at a loss. All this is accompanied by the groans of Girkin: "Russia
      bring in troops. "So the victory of the Svidomo is not envisaged, this is about the fact that they are simply used against Russia. Maybe it was further in the same vein (about the victory, oh
      all these boilers), I can’t say anything here. Another nuance. As we know, even simple junta militias can hardly change their own, they even catch those who are simply suspicious for themselves
      civilians for this. Here they release Gubarev. Ask how? They must be able to answer. It may of course be all, in any case no one will say, but it gives a bit
      the legitimacy of Girkin. Under the pressure of the APU, other commanders appear. The moment of truth finally comes. Until which Patriot Strelkov existed in our press. is he
      consists in leaving Slavensk, this happens before the very appearance of the "north wind" or during (I don't remember now). Russia had to join the process, although
      Putin spoke early. Did Girkin know about this? This is the main question. If you knew then the traitor is unambiguous. I could know, because Acting Minister of Defense. As far as he could
      a minister is considered a minister in that state of the LPR. Surely they said at least in the form: "Hold on, hover! Help soon." As a result of the withdrawal, Donetsk was under fire. After the appearance
      Girkin in Donetsk, according to his own words, he is going to surrender Donetsk. There is a conflict with Zakharchenko, they say before the fight. Apparently, he was told: "You will appear on
      We will shoot the Donbass. "Girkin appears in Russia, saying that he left in exchange for supplying Novorossia. Yeah, now. Everyone will be abandoned because of him. What does Girkin do in the first place
      in Russia? In his first interview, he gives up Russia, talking about the "north wind". Although Russia refused to participate in any form, vacationers there are not vacationers.
      moment I thought about his role. As already said that opinion on the press and key points. Maybe he didn’t even say anything. But he climbed into politics, carries all
      nationalistic bullshit. Uses the image of a patriot.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 5 June 2016 19: 27
        -6
        The cons of the first comment are a bit surprising. If in the second I’m used to it. Russian nationalism, which will take extreme forms in every way (sooner or later), is the fastest way to the collapse of Russia (one against all). Well, nationalists always feel like patriots. By the way, who feeds them? that and the enemy.
        1. Yuri Y.
          Yuri Y. 5 June 2016 21: 51
          -4
          You have to talk to yourself. Some cons without objection. An article or something attracts some.
          - We do not plan any street actions yet. We focus on building the structure of the movement, designed to act in extreme situations. In a situation where the power self-destructed.

          Purely liberalistic desire. On the street appeared the national guard.
      2. passenger
        passenger 6 June 2016 00: 47
        -4
        Quote: Yuri I.
        As for Girkin, I would still be careful not to write to the patriots. First you need to remember how everything happened and in what environment. The opinion is of course compiled by the press.
        ..................
        As already said that opinion on the press and key points. Maybe he didn’t even say anything. But he climbed into politics, carries all
        nationalistic bullshit. Uses the image of a patriot.


        I agree with everything. Girkin is more than a murky character. At first, like many others, I believed in him (there was such a time, and PR was on a grand scale there), but gradually timid doubts began to creep in. Especially when Girkin, week after week, month after month, repeated like a mantra the same phrase in different interpretations "we win not because the militia is strong, but because the Armed Forces of Ukraine are extremely weak, disorganized, demoralized, etc." Those. In each of his interviews, over and over again, as the main explanation for his victories, he gave an answer about the weakness of the enemy.
        And then suddenly an unexpected (not even retreat) - flight! Fleeing from this "weak, demoralized enemy who cannot fight." Yes, he fled so that, in addition to his units, he pulled troops from Kramatorsk along with him. And after that, this "weak" enemy launched a powerful offensive on all fronts. And then the question arose in my head: "Girkin, what did you say?" And Girkin was already there in Donetsk "putting things in order". I arranged a showdown with Kurginyan, and then I remember Kurginyan about 20 KAMAZ weapons supplied to Strelkov, and that even after that, Strelkov kept whining about the fact that "Russia is not helping with anything." And then he disappeared. And then he appeared and began to specifically "fire up the office" and hand over his own. Hero, there's nothing to say.

        Yes, there are many decisions in the actions of the top leadership of Russia and Putin personally, causing questions and even bewilderment. But it will be a mistake to listen to individuals like Girkin, playing on patriotism and calling for a change of power in a revolutionary way.
  44. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 June 2016 22: 06
    +7
    It is always difficult to be a decent person and an uncompromising patriot. It is much easier, following Posner, to hesitate with the "party line", to talk about the mistakes of Strelkov's "military leadership", to paint the image of a Russian "Nazi-Maidanist".

    Thousands of supporters of Novorossiya have fought and are fighting in Donbass. Strelka's authority was not gained through media wars or rallies.

    Perhaps the Kremlin’s patriotism is wiser, but it follows such curly paths that it has not been seen since April 2014.
  45. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 4 June 2016 22: 10
    +4
    The United States will promote its doctrine to supplant Russian influence in Ukraine.
  46. rfotq
    rfotq 4 June 2016 23: 09
    -6
    funny requirements - well, okay god with them with these requirements
  47. rfotq
    rfotq 4 June 2016 23: 09
    -2
    bell times
  48. rfotq
    rfotq 4 June 2016 23: 09
    -3
    bell two
  49. rfotq
    rfotq 4 June 2016 23: 14
    -4
    Mr. Strelkov changes the essence of his statements as it is profitable for him
  50. rfotq
    rfotq 4 June 2016 23: 15
    -2
    I need to leave 10 comments - so do not ...