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Production of Tu-160 and Tu-214 aircraft and modernization of Tu-22М3 at the Kazan Aviation Plant

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Kazan aviation plant them. Gorbunova is one of the largest domestic aviation industry enterprises, the only Russian manufacturer of the latest generation of strategic bombers. The plant produces and services the Tu-160 missile carrier, the Tu-22M3 bomber, as well as various modifications of the Tu-214 passenger aircraft.

1. During the Great Patriotic War, Kazan Aviation Plant. Gorbunov launched for the front dive bomber Pe-2 and long-range bomber Pe-8. Then every day the factory sent combat aircraft to the front of the 10-12. So during the war years more than 10 thousand were released.



2. A new era of domestic long-range aviation was opened by a Tu-16 aircraft with turbojet engines, which was intended to replace the Tu-4 rotor bomber, twice as fast as it was. Then, based on the Tu-16 bomber, production of the Tu-104 airliner was launched. Later there was a modification of the Tu-110 for state needs. In 1960-s, the country's top leadership moved to the long-haul IL-62M, also manufactured at the Kazan Aviation Association.

Over the years of its existence KAZ them. Gorbunova released more than 23 thousands of units of aviation technology of various types.



3. The Tu-160 is a supersonic strategic bomber-carrying bomber armed with long-range cruise missiles. It is in service with the VKS of Russia. The aircraft is designed to solve various problems in a wide range of subsonic and supersonic flight speeds, regardless of weather conditions and time of day.



4. This is the most powerful supersonic aircraft in stories military aircraft, the fastest bomber, the heaviest in the world of combat aircraft at take-off weight.

The pilots call the White Swan Tu-160 for a light, anti-reflective coating.



5. One of the main features of the Tu-160 was the wing-shaped, variable in flight. In the course of flight, the swept wing is capable of changing its shape as needed to achieve supersonic speed.



6. Tu-160 without refueling overcomes 12 thousands of kilometers, developing a maximum speed of 2200 km / h.

On machines of this type 44 official world record was set.



7. The aircraft has an electric automatic onboard control system with fourfold redundancy and redundancy of mechanical wiring. The control of the aircraft is dual, not the steering wheels are installed, as is customary in heavy machines, but handles.



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9. The crew of the aircraft consists of four people.



10. An aircraft after appropriate conversion can also be equipped with free-fall bombs (up to 40 000 kg) of various caliber, including nuclear, one-time bomb cassettes, sea mines and other weapons.



11. Tu-160 with a tail number «14» (RF-94103), called "Igor Sikorsky".

This board made its first flight in 1988 year and is one of eight Tu-160, received by the Russian side in the 1999 year from the Ukraine from the former 184 Guards heavy bomber regiment in Priluki.



12. Since April, 2015, on behalf of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu, the production of Tu-160 has been resumed at the Kazan Aviation Plant.



13. Currently, work is underway to prepare a prototype of the Tu-160М2.



14. Work involves the renewal of all airborne equipment, the replacement of engines and the use of modern weapons.



15. The new aircraft will only look similar to the existing Tu-160, the “filling” is planned to be completely different.



16. According to the RF Ministry of Defense, additional 50 modernized strategic bombers Tu-160М2 will be built.



17. The engines for the Tu-160 are produced by the Samara Scientific and Technical Complex named after Nikolai Kuznetsov (SNTK them. N. D. Kuznetsov).



18. The Tu-22М3 is a long-range multi-mode bomber-rocket carrier. Designed to destroy enemy ground and sea targets at all speeds from high, medium and low altitudes.



19. To perform a number of military tasks, the country needed an aircraft with improved take-off and landing characteristics, capable of not only performing a supersonic throw at high altitude, but also making a long flight at low altitude with high transonic speed.



20. Test the release and cleaning of the chassis.

Interestingly, the main landing gear retracts into the fuselage almost simultaneously, but their huge flaps slam shut one by one, with a second delay. This is due to some difference in the length of the hydraulic pipelines along the left and right sides.



21. The missile carrier solves two main tasks: attacking strategic targets and defeating large naval targets. The main armament of the Tu-22М3 - unguided bombs and missiles.

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22. The continuity of generations.



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24. A characteristic design feature of the Tu-22М3 aircraft is shifted to the left by 2-3 degrees "zero" of the rudder, to compensate for the torque of the engines.



25. The wing consists of a fixed part and swivel consoles. The wing is rearranged to angles from 20 ° to 65 °.



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27. Tests of all aircraft manufactured and repaired at the enterprise are carried out at the Borisoglebskoe airfield.



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29. The length of the take-off strip of the flight test station is 3300 meters, which allows servicing of military and civil aircraft.



30. The maximum take-off weight of the Tu-22М3 is 126 000 kg, the maximum landing weight is 88 000 kg.



31. The crew is located in ejection seats. The approach to workplaces is through four access hatches that open upwards.



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34. The mid-haul passenger aircraft Tu-214 is an improved cargo-passenger version of the Tu-204.



35. Having proven itself in operation on passenger traffic, the Tu-214 was chosen as the base for the creation of a number of aircraft of special importance.



36. Modern aircraft in its design has about 200 thousands of bolts and 2-3 million rivets.



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38. Work with the chassis.



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40. The Tu-214 is equipped with two PS-90A engines.



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42. Crew cabin



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44. By special order, the management of the affairs of the President of the Russian Federation by the forces of PJSC Tupolev developed special modifications: Tu-214CP (repeater plane), Tu-214 PU (control station) and Tu-214СУС (special communication center). The flight range of these special boards has been increased to 10 000 km due to the installation of additional fuel tanks.



45. Tu-XNUMHON designed specifically for the implementation of the International Project "Open Sky".

The aircraft is intended for inspection flights. The board is equipped with aerial photography devices and allows to get acquainted with the military infrastructure of other countries from the air. Tu-XNUMHON is the first aircraft in the history of the Treaty on Open Skies, equipped with all types of approved surveillance equipment.



46. Tu-214SR - Relay aircraft, which was designed specifically for the presidential administration.

The aircraft is equipped with a radio-technical complex, which provides via satellite systems communication with ground objects and other aircraft. The leaders of the Russian Federation use radio relay communication. However, such communication works only within the direct line of sight, therefore it requires a system of ground radio stations, repeater planes and satellites.



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  1. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 3 June 2016 06: 35
    +16
    for more such birds in the Russian Air Force!
  2. D-Master
    D-Master 3 June 2016 06: 45
    +29
    HUGE THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE. From such articles behind the wings unfold. I would like to wish the company only one thing - put as many excellent military and civilian vehicles as possible on the wing!
  3. bistrov.
    bistrov. 3 June 2016 06: 59
    +24
    All the same, the military-industrial complex of Russia is slowly reviving, and this is the work of related enterprises and jobs that require qualified specialists, which, accordingly, makes education workers move. This chain gives an impetus to the general transition of the entire Russian economy to a higher step of technological progress. Only now it causes bewilderment why it was necessary to break already well-established production. It seems that in the 90s Russia was led by enemies. The most unpleasant thing is that these Chubais and Kudrins are still trying to put sticks in the wheels, although they have the place in prison.
    1. sergo42
      sergo42 4 June 2016 09: 07
      +10
      In the 90s, it was precisely the enemies who led Russia, this is not an impression but a fact. And many are in power now.
  4. Blondy
    Blondy 3 June 2016 06: 59
    -6
    Well, I’m a blonde - I don’t work for the CIA ... and they slipped me such a photo gallery with pieces of iron ... I didn’t ask for an excursion to the red corner.
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 3 June 2016 15: 30
      +8
      Well, I’m a blonde - I don’t work for the CIA ... and they slipped me such a photo gallery with pieces of iron ... I didn’t ask for an excursion to the red corner.

      Do not like it - do not read! hi
  5. 31rus2
    31rus2 3 June 2016 07: 14
    +3
    Dear, please explain, is the Tu-160 being produced or so far only plans? I read a lot that the technology has been lost, there are no trained personnel to resume production
    1. Leto
      Leto 3 June 2016 07: 27
      -10%
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, please explain, is the Tu-160 being produced or so far only plans? I read a lot that the technology has been lost, there are no trained personnel to resume production

      In the KAPO workshop there are two (as far as I remember) unfinished Tu-160s, so they will be completed in a few years, they will surrender with pomp and forget the old promises ...
      1. denvar555
        denvar555 3 June 2016 07: 38
        +1
        And they have been there for over 20 years. Even under EBN they tried to "resume", but apart from the completion of one aircraft, the matter did not go further.
      2. kos2910
        kos2910 3 June 2016 10: 41
        +9
        Shaigu speaks of 50 Tu-160M2, so they won’t ask you, they’ll restore you, and the score will definitely go to tens. 50 pieces may not be necessary, but for reproduction the series should not be piece.
        1. FID
          FID 3 June 2016 11: 57
          +6
          Quote: kos2910
          for reproduction, the series should not be piece.

          In the USSR, KAPO produced ONLY 4 aircraft per year !!! How many years does it take to release 50 ???
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 3 June 2016 21: 59
            +6
            Quote: SSI
            In the USSR, KAPO produced ONLY 4 aircraft per year !!! How many years does it take to release 50 ???

            Only 4 Tu-160, but at least 10 Il-62 was made at least a year and several Tu-22M. Those. to 20 heavy class aircraft. But today, KAPO does not produce IL-62 and Tu-22 in such quantities, because Tu-214 is not so massive. It is impossible to transfer part of the production capacities to the Tu-160? In Soviet times, 20 cars: 4 Tu-160 + 10 Il-62 + 6 Tu-22M. And now 20 cars: 16 Tu-160 and 4 Tu-214 (for example). The same 20, but in a different proportion. Or are there any restrictions on the size of slipways, etc.?
          2. alex86
            alex86 5 June 2016 22: 39
            +6
            Once again, I sadly ask: how are things there, at KAPO? A housekeeper comes from there (in the sense, she works there, but works for me and my friends), no matter how much I ask (for many years already), what is changing? - and the next conversations, promises and plans are enormous. The equipment was scrapped, some repairs, what a delight here - I don't understand. For ignorant people - behind the fence of the 22nd plant (KAPO) - the 16th plant (KMPO - Kazan engine-building production association) - there was a whole field for repairs in the 80s, and there was a release, and a new test building was built, and a precision casting shop, and honeycomb structures of engines made of metal, and ferroaluminum, and rotary blades - and the question is - and the PS-90 engine (sorry if I lied) - where do they do it? And why not behind the fence? During the Soviet era, 22 thousand worked on the 50nd, and 16 thousand people on the 20th. It is clear that these dozens of combat troops are not needed now, but why are we buying civilians from Boeing and Airbus? "The Englishwoman crap"? And where is our "great and terrible" GDP? Or is he a share? Don't our rulers need a domestic aviation industry? It makes me sick of everything that happens ...
            SSI - if help is needed in Kazan - without show-offs, personal, I’m not a cabinet - write, I will help as much as I can.
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 6 June 2016 08: 10
              +4
              Quote: alex86
              and the question is - and the PS-90 engine (sorry if I lied) - where do they do it?

              On Perm motors do. They do a lot, because engines go to the Voronezh IL-96, and the Kazan Tu-214, and the Ulyanovsk IL-76MD-90.
              1. alex86
                alex86 30 June 2016 22: 11
                +2
                I understand that a lot of time has passed, but the point is not exactly where they are doing it, but why it’s not behind the fence, at the 16th plant.
            2. SHURUM -BURUM
              SHURUM -BURUM April 5 2017 09: 01
              +2
              In Soviet times, I was constantly skiing in the woods near the village of Nagorny, this is beyond the Kazanka River, just opposite the runway of the plant. Every week-weekend, several times a day, flying rocket-carriers flew over us several times a day, and the noise from the engines did not cease daily and reached critical values ​​at the end of the month. And when a rocket carrier swept over us with a roar at an altitude of only 300 meters, I admit honestly, there was such admiration and Pride for the country !!!
        2. Come on
          Come on 3 June 2016 13: 14
          -6
          Well, since Shoigu says, then it will definitely be 50! If only Putin said that we need to say 50, then this is 100 in total! Tu 160 is not a huhry muhry, it is a very complex and expensive car. Then, if they are sawing it now, then it should be as modernized as necessary in order to avoid its disadvantages - a gigantic EPR, electronics and missile range may be insufficient for today's tasks. Is it possible to make the "Swan" less visible? Is it possible to increase the speed, at least for a certain amount of time, which is necessary for approaching, launching missiles and legs? How much will the Tu 160 cost from scratch? The same 2 lard of greens is the minimum for which you can buy a refueling tanker with several Su-34, Su-35, but these are more important. Big questions, what the Swans will do, in short.
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          2. Idiot
            Idiot 4 June 2016 17: 41
            +3
            Quote: Yeah, well.
            Is it possible to make the "Swan" less visible? Is it possible to increase the speed, at least for a certain time, which is necessary for approaching, launching missiles and legs?


            TU-160 from whom to make invisible? The use of weapons with a range of over 5000 km is planned. An increase in speed is impossible in principle, it is already maximum for this class of cars.
            1. Come on
              Come on 5 June 2016 06: 22
              -1
              Quote: pft, fkb
              TU-160 from whom to make invisible?


              From whom did B2 become invisible?

              Quote: pft, fkb
              The use of weapons with a range of over 5000 km is planned.


              Yars hang something? :)

              Quote: pft, fkb
              Speed ​​increase is impossible in principle


              Who said that? It is only necessary to overcome the milestone of 2500 km / h, at least for 1 hour.
  6. Leto
    Leto 3 June 2016 07: 18
    +1
    The heaviest combat aircraft in the world in take-off weight.

    This is not an indicator of superiority, far from it.
    Since April 2015, on behalf of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu, the production of the Tu-160 was resumed at the Kazan Aviation Plant.

    At best, they will complete the two buildings that have been at the factory since Soviet times and that’s all.
    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, an additional 50 modernized strategic Tu-160M2 bombers will be built.

    Trending is not tossing bags, it was possible to declare 100 and 100500, it’s like with the promised flight to the moon ...
    The modern aircraft in its design has about 200 thousand bolts and 2-3 million rivets.

    The prefix "modern" in this case for a laugh? MS-21 is modern, but Tu-214 is an ancient junk suitable only for scrap.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 June 2016 08: 40
      +15
      Quote: Leto
      At best, they will complete the two buildings that have been at the factory since Soviet times and that’s all.

      Why did you get this? Write this to write at least something?
      Quote: Leto
      Trending is not tossing bags, it was possible to declare 100 and 100500, it’s like with the promised flight to the moon ...

      Mattresses announced the construction of 700 F-22, as a result, 187 cars were produced, for example, so what?
      Tu-160M2, even if they produce another 20-30 cars, it will be wonderful. In addition, this machine can be said to be transitional to PAK DA. On new Swans, systems and components will be tested and tested, which will subsequently be installed on PAK DA.
      1. Leto
        Leto 3 June 2016 09: 32
        -15%
        Quote: NEXUS
        Tu-160M2, even if they produce another 20-30 cars, it will be wonderful. In addition, this machine can be said to be transitional to PAK DA. On new Swans, systems and components will be tested and tested, which will subsequently be installed on PAK DA.

        I understand that you believe this sacredly. But what is your faith based on?
        Do you believe that they will really build 20-30 Tu-160 (frankly useless cars), believe that there will be PAK YES (similarly), and you know very well that PAK FA is moving forward with difficulty, that only 60 will be bought instead of 12 ... Why 12? Yes, there is no money ... There is no money for a live project that is moving forward with a creak, which can be touched with hands ... And where will the money be from the Tu-160 and PAK YES? Well, be realist.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 June 2016 09: 39
          +10
          Quote: Leto
          But what is your faith based on?

          On the need for these machines.
          Quote: Leto
          Do you believe that they will really build 20-30 Tu-160 (frankly useless cars)believe that it will be PAK YES(similarly)

          And B-2, B-1 are useful machines? For example, the operation in Syria showed the opposite. At the same time, the Swan, on board of which there are X-101 or X-102 missiles, can hardly be called useless. At the same time, recalling the carrying capacity, speed and range the question is, why did you decide that they are useless?

          Quote: Leto
          and you know very well that PAK FA is moving forward with difficulty, that instead of 60 cars they will purchase only 12 ... Why 12? Yes, no money ...

          Do you firmly believe what is written in the media, or do you have a direct phone number for Shoigu, that he reports to you about the plans of the Moscow Region?
          1. Leto
            Leto 3 June 2016 10: 00
            -8
            Quote: NEXUS
            And B-2, B-1 useful cars?

            Of course not, especially deuce. Money down the drain. The 52nd (especially after the last modernization) will fulfill all those tasks that Spirit and bone performed ...
            Quote: NEXUS
            For example, the operation in Syria showed the opposite.

            What did she show? What Tu-160 can do the same as a boat with Caliber? Could the Tu-95MS not be able to do what the Tu-160 did?
            Quote: NEXUS
            Do you firmly believe what is written in the media?

            Only negative news. For example, if they write that they will raise the retirement age, I believe, if they write that they will increase housing and communal services tariffs, I also believe. And if they write that they will abolish the transport tax, then I have nothing but nervous laughter. Or when Putin promises not to introduce new taxes, then I perfectly understand that they will definitely introduce and turn out to be right.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 3 June 2016 12: 10
              +9
              Quote: Leto
              What did she show? What Tu-160 can do the same as a boat with Caliber?

              If you don’t see the difference between a boat with Caliber (and if you can in more detail about boats with Caliber. And then, I forgot something that Caliber put on boats) and a strategic missile carrier, which is part of the nuclear triad, then what is the talk about?
              The X-101/102 -5500km missile range, with Caliber, the data is different, but I think up to 2500 km.
              Quote: Leto
              Could the Tu-95MS not be able to do what the Tu-160 did?

              To begin with, the Tu-160's payload is several times greater. Secondly, this is the speed of the task.
              In addition, the Bears have been in service since the 50s and passed all the deadlines for updating the strategist park.
              You can say that the mattresses have a B-52-old man of the Bear, and they are not going to remove him from the armament yet ... but based on your logic, why invent and build something new if the old one works well. Then why to create a new one at all? Without bothering, we rivet T-34, PPSh, IL-2, etc. ... cheap and cheerful. And we firmly believe in your nonsense that the TU-160 is useless.
              1. Leto
                Leto 3 June 2016 15: 25
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                and if you can in more detail about boats with Caliber. And then, I forgot something, that Caliber put on boats

                OK, not a boat, a ship. I take the words back.
                Quote: NEXUS
                X-101/102 -5500km missile range

                The X-101 has a range of 2700 km, for 5000 km. X-102 flies with nuclear b / h. This is because the nuclear warhead occupies a smaller volume in the rocket, thus the X-102 has more fuel. So the X-101 is not much further than Caliber flies. They have the same engine, the fuel uses the same, the dimensions are approximately the same.
                Quote: NEXUS
                To begin with, the payload of the Tu-160 is several times greater

                Tu-95MSM carries 8 X-101, Tu-160M ​​can take them 12, the difference is not great.

                Quote: NEXUS
                . Second, this is the speed of the task.

                The only plus.
                Quote: NEXUS
                You can say that the mattresses have a B-52-rover of the Bear, and they are not going to remove it from the armament yet ...

                I said
                Quote: NEXUS
                Then why the hell to create a new one?

                If the old is as effective as the new, which is much more expensive, then why is it? The B-52 (like the Tu-95) is undergoing modernization, receiving a smart board and a modern range of weapons, the latest upgrade is a new revolver installation in the bomb bay that allows you to hook on "smart" ammunition. Why is the new B-52 worse than the B-2?
                Modern tactical cruise missiles eliminate the need to penetrate into the airspace of an adversary by flying through air defense at low altitudes or quietly sneaking using stealth. Is it really important who launches the Kh-102 over Kamchatka towards the United States under the guise of their own Tu-95MSM or Tu-160M ​​fighters?
                Quote: NEXUS
                is part of the nuclear triad

                Tu-160 is not a part, but an appendix. In the event of a nuclear conflict, there will be no sense from the Tu-160, they will not even be able to take off, like its overseas counterparts. All will be decided by Poplars, Minutemans, Satan and other Clubs with Tridents.
                Quote: NEXUS
                And we firmly believe in your nonsense that the TU-160 is useless.

                OK, not useless, but redundant. It's all right?
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 3 June 2016 15: 46
                  +8
                  Quote: Leto
                  The X-101 has a range of 2700 km, for 5000 km. X-102 flies with nuclear b / h. This is because the nuclear warhead occupies a smaller volume in the rocket, thus the X-102 has more fuel. So the X-101 is not much further than Caliber flies.

                  Dear, the X-101 rocket has a range of 5500 km and this is achieved by launching from the side of a flying aircraft, and not from the ship’s shaft. Where do you suck out these numbers of 2700 km from? What kind of nonsense?
                  Quote: Leto
                  Tu-95MSM carries 8 X-101, Tu-160M ​​can take them 12, the difference is not great.

                  The mass of the X-101 is 2200 kg, that is, two tons ... 4 more missiles, this is almost 10 tons. And the truth is, the difference is not great. laughing
                  Quote: Leto

                  Tu-160 is not a part, but an appendix.

                  Rare nonsense.
                  Quote: Leto
                  In the event of a nuclear conflict, there will be no sense from the Tu-160, they will not even be able to take off, like its overseas counterparts.

                  Why is this? That is, the approach time of missiles with nuclear warheads is zero in your opinion? laughing
                  Quote: Leto
                  OK, not useless, but redundant. It's all right?

                  Listen to you, and PAK FA is redundant and Armata and even AEK-971 ... As for mattresses, aircraft carriers are redundant (as many as 11 pieces), for example ... laughing
                  And let's put the entire military budget on social needs and see in 20 years what will happen to the country and to your family in particular.
                  1. Leto
                    Leto 3 June 2016 17: 22
                    -1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Listen to you, and PAK FA is redundant and Armata and even AEK-971.

                    No need to ascribe to me what I did not say. PAK FA is necessary as air, but 12 cars is real nonsense, instead of spending scarce funds on the T-50 / PAK FA they are spread on absolutely unnecessary things. And Armata is needed, and AEK-971, a lot of what is needed, but we do not print dollars. There are priority programs, but the production of Tu-160 does not apply to them.
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    And let's put the entire military budget on social needs and see in 20 years what will happen to the country and to your family in particular.

                    Not with this government ...
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Why is this? That is, the approach time of missiles with nuclear warheads is zero in your opinion?

                    Suppose SPRN detects the start of enemy ICBMs, there is half an hour to retaliate. Will they be able to prepare the plane for take-off in such a time, get missiles from the nuclear warhead, pick them up and take off? Imagine that they can, our Tu-160s fly over a country covered with nuclear mushrooms, how much time do they need before they reach the launch position? From Engels to Kamchatka for example? A few hours, by this time the entire United States is a continuous fire and radioactive clouds, who is there to attack? Yes, the X-101 guidance system will not find the target because the terrain of the United States will change ...
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Dear, the X-101 missile has a range of 5500 km and this is achieved by launching from the side of a flying airplane, and not from the ship’s shaft.

                    AGM-86B - cruise missile with nuclear b / h, launch range of 2800 km.
                    AGM-86C / D - cruise missile with high-explosive b / h, launch range 1100 km.
                    The dimensions of both missiles are absolutely identical, the guidance system is the same, the main engine is the same, the fuel is the same, the carrier is the same, explain why the range is different?
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Where do you suck these numbers from 2700 km? What kind of nonsense

                    The news of the military-industrial complex evokes more confidence in me than other sources which, by the way, indicate the X-101 range of 10 thousand km.
                    http://vpk.name/news/144787_h101h102_ne_vmeshayutsya_v_bombootsek_tu95ms.html?ne

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                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 3 June 2016 18: 29
                      +2
                      Quote: Leto
                      There are priority programs, but the production of Tu-160 does not apply to them.

                      Delirium grows stronger. fellow
                      Quote: Leto
                      Not with this government ...

                      Apparently you would like to see the head of the government of Navalny, Serdyukov or Kasparov with Makarevich. wassat
                      Quote: Leto
                      Yes, the X-101 guidance system will not find the target because the terrain of the United States will change ...

                      And what about the terrain? fool
                      Quote: Leto
                      The dimensions of both missiles are absolutely identical, the guidance system is the same, the main engine is the same, the fuel is the same, the carrier is the same, explain why the range is different?

                      Dear, what does Matrass rocket have to do with it? Would you even bother to look at the mass of high-explosive fragmentation charge for the AGM-86 and nuclear. 540-1450 kg (from configuration) - High-explosive fragmentation, and thermonuclear, 5-150 ct- 123 kg! That is, warheads are 5-10 times more high-explosive fragmentation. laughing And the X-101/102 has a warhead weight of 400 kg. (That is, the same!)
                    2. saturn.mmm
                      saturn.mmm 3 June 2016 20: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: Leto
                      PAK FA is necessary as air, but 12 cars is real nonsense, instead of spending scarce funds on the T-50 / PAK FA they are spread on absolutely unnecessary things. And Armata is needed, and AEK-971, a lot of what is needed, but we do not print dollars. There are priority programs, but the production of Tu-160 does not apply to them.

                      What place are you at the General Staff?
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 3 June 2016 20: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        What place are you at the General Staff?

                        This comrade is exactly the place about which you so loudly and eloquently kept silent. wink
                2. boris-1230
                  boris-1230 3 June 2016 15: 56
                  +7
                  Quote: Leto
                  OK, not useless, but redundant. It's all right?

                  And will it? negative
            2. boris-1230
              boris-1230 3 June 2016 15: 48
              +3
              Only negative news.

              With such optimism and at large? Putinslil and all the way? negative hi
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 3 June 2016 12: 22
          +2
          This is not that money. Even at low oil prices, its exports brought $ 220 billion in 2015. Most of them went to the state-wu. There are no problems ordering 50 tu160m2. Like fifty pack fa. The main thing was that there was something to order, and aircraft plants could build it. Tu 160 m2 is a big amount of work, it is quite possible that 30 pieces will be built, but not because of money. 12 pack fa will also be purchased not because of money, but because they are going to buy it more or less in bulk, only after the development of the second stage engine and testing the machine are already with it. And so it is - military trials. At the same time, su35s plans to buy about 100 pieces. I would be ready to pack fa - they would have bought them, not su35s request .
        3. Ka-52
          Ka-52 3 June 2016 14: 49
          +2
          You believe that they will really build 20-30 Tu-160 (frankly useless cars), believe that there will be PAK YES (similarly), and you know very well that PAK FA is moving forward with difficulty, that instead of 60 cars they will purchase only 12 ...

          You can believe in anything, including the fact that there is no money for "strategic directions", but this only means that you deny the sense of self-preservation of the "leadership" of the country, and underestimation can cost you dearly. According to "my data" the number of finished products already exceeds the one declared by you.
        4. Marsblade
          Marsblade 3 June 2016 17: 31
          +3
          It’s immediately obvious that a person is a super-specialist in everything: from the financial condition of the country to the question of which and how many planes our VKS needs (this is sarcasm, if anyone does not understand).
          But seriously, the country will have enough money for 20-30 Tu-160s, but what and how many planes to build for the Aerospace Forces our Defense Ministry does not ask such idiots like this "expert", thank God ...
        5. prorab_ak
          prorab_ak 4 June 2016 12: 32
          0
          I understand that you believe this sacredly. But what is your faith based on?

          The work is so simple for many marshals .... on this site)))
      2. Come on
        Come on 3 June 2016 14: 43
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        On new Swans, systems and units will be tested and tested, which will subsequently be installed on PAK YES.


        This is a more real lesson for Swan, for testing technologies and all kinds of experiments. But to launch the series, I am afraid so expensive that without a sharp cut in funding for other types of weapons it will not work.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 June 2016 09: 33
      -2
      These 50 Tu 160 will cost the budget more than a trillion rubles.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 3 June 2016 09: 40
        +7
        Quote: Vadim237
        These 50 Tu 160 will cost the budget more than a trillion rubles.

        They will not be bought immediately, but within 10-15 years ...
    3. FID
      FID 3 June 2016 11: 58
      +12
      Quote: Leto
      but Tu-214 is an ancient junk fit only for scrap.

      This is why ??? And the B-737 is not junk, you are my specialist?
      1. Leto
        Leto 3 June 2016 17: 27
        -3
        Quote: SSI
        This is why ???

        A friend works as a technician in S7 (or rather in Siberia), recalls the Tu-204 only in exquisite expressions accompanied by profanity. About the B-737 of which the S7 is full of nothing wrong.
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 3 June 2016 22: 13
          +2
          Quote: Leto
          A friend works as a technician in S7 (or rather, in Siberia), recalls the Tu-204 only in exquisite expressions accompanied by profanity.

          I, as a person directly connected with aviation and with the Tu-204, can say extremely diplomatically and without a mat (like Sergey Lavrov) - your technician is not right.
          It’s interesting, of course, what exactly did your tech not like about the Tu-204? Such rumors would only have been heard from amateurs to pour mud on our equipment. And ps-xnumx they have noisy and uneconomical, etc. You start to ask - in comparison with what uneconomical, in what modes? Silence in response ...
    4. Nross
      Nross 3 June 2016 14: 59
      +1
      About fifty - this is our Tuvinian, and maybe got excited. Still, the economy is not the same already, but to assemble another 1 regiment, as in Engels, is quite capable of it by the year 2030. Now the list of them is approx. 16, sort of. I suspect no more than eight of the warheads.
      The main thing is not how much is declared, but that production has begun.
      The main thing was that they had the courage to throw his pink glasses at the effective Moscow manager Rogozin and say that by the indicated time there would be no PAK YES, and the best that is now possible is not to slip through what we have.

      It remains to be hoped that the competencies of the KAPO leadership and the MORF leadership will be enough to convince the government not to curtail the project.
    5. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 3 June 2016 21: 09
      0
      Quote: Leto
      but Tu-214 is an ancient junk fit only for scrap.

      Tu-214 is a very decent aircraft. Who flew airplanes in general knows. And who did not fly ...
      "To whom the mare is a bride," as one character said in "12 chairs".
    6. Thomas 1989
      Thomas 1989 4 June 2016 15: 24
      0
      tu214 and tu 204-100 in better 737go 20-year-old junk operated in Russia
  7. dsm100
    dsm100 3 June 2016 07: 45
    +10
    Gorgeous photo report. Thanks to the author.
  8. wasps
    wasps 3 June 2016 08: 01
    +9
    I do not believe! A "gas station country" cannot build airplanes, is it not true gentlemen Gozman, Venediktov and other liberal dandruff? am Excellent article! wink
  9. wasps
    wasps 3 June 2016 08: 02
    +2
    Quote: Leto
    The heaviest combat aircraft in the world in take-off weight.

    This is not an indicator of superiority, far from it.
    Since April 2015, on behalf of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu, the production of the Tu-160 was resumed at the Kazan Aviation Plant.

    At best, they will complete the two buildings that have been at the factory since Soviet times and that’s all.
    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, an additional 50 modernized strategic Tu-160M2 bombers will be built.

    Trending is not tossing bags, it was possible to declare 100 and 100500, it’s like with the promised flight to the moon ...
    The modern aircraft in its design has about 200 thousand bolts and 2-3 million rivets.

    The prefix "modern" in this case for a laugh? MS-21 is modern, but Tu-214 is an ancient junk suitable only for scrap.

    And you, my friend, are a pessimist ...
    1. Leto
      Leto 3 June 2016 09: 33
      -9
      Quote: vespe
      And you, my friend, are a pessimist ...

      Duc acquired with age ... In Russia, I live.
      1. Petrik66
        Petrik66 3 June 2016 10: 12
        +10
        Wisdom does not always come with age. Sometimes, age comes alone.
        1. Leto
          Leto 3 June 2016 10: 27
          -6
          Quote: Petrik66
          Wisdom does not always come with age. Sometimes, age comes alone.

          It was about pessimism.
          1. boris-1230
            boris-1230 3 June 2016 16: 02
            +5
            Quote: Leto
            Quote: Petrik66
            Wisdom does not always come with age. Sometimes, age comes alone.

            It was about pessimism.

            Are you Russian, Ivan? hi
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 3 June 2016 12: 15
        +7
        Quote: Leto
        Duc acquired with age ... In Russia, I live.

        Pessimism is good when it is justified. And from article to article you are either dissatisfied with what is happening in the army and navy of the Russian Federation, or openly hate. This is how liberals behave, who sleep and see the times when the Swans were "executed" to your loud applause .Your phrase-
        Tu-160 (frankly useless cars)
        says a lot.
      4. sky diver
        sky diver 5 June 2016 12: 19
        0
        I also live in Russia. And the work is connected with water transport. And I can compare with what was and how it is now. And it was easy for anyone to pick up that they destroyed it for 20 years. The ships went from the slipways. And the planes will also rivet hundreds. Give a deadline.
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 3 June 2016 10: 54
      +2
      In fact, a pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 3 June 2016 14: 56
        +2
        In fact, a pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

        This statement does not apply to Leto.
  10. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 3 June 2016 08: 11
    +4
    Thank. Such reports are certainly pleasing. but to its former power is still far away .... we hope for the best .........
  11. Afinogen
    Afinogen 3 June 2016 08: 20
    +2
    From the beginning, they threw steel birds that served faithfully, and now they come to their senses and began to repair and upgrade. They probably understood that they would be left completely without airplanes, there was no way to build new ones.

    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 3 June 2016 11: 05
      +5
      Firstly, there is such a thing as metal fatigue. Not all cases can be reanimated
      Secondly, the sides were built in series. At the same time, factory and design improvements were carried out. That is why the sides are different and not all can be brought to some single standard.
      Thirdly, a certain staffing table is calculated in the troops through the military doctrine and the corresponding justifications. Those. something must fly, something should be on conservation, and something is already superfluous, because the budget simply will not pull.
      And fourthly, what is in storage and behind the staff is in varying degrees of derban. There are such sides, which, as donors, are already so disparate that there is simply no economic sense to reanimate them.
      and most importantly: resuscitation and modernization of previously built sides is needed only in an amount that allows you to cover up the deficit of new developments. SU-24 will fly exactly until the momentum, until all regular cells are occupied by new SU-34. After that, any investments in the 24th will not make practical sense. even modernized sides will always lose to new sides, designed for a new concept of task performance.
  12. surrozh
    surrozh 3 June 2016 08: 26
    +1
    I do not believe! I do not believe that we cannot build ultra-modern civil aircraft! Massively, cheaply, with our service centers, for yourself and for export!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 June 2016 08: 46
      +5
      Quote: surozh
      I do not believe! I do not believe that we cannot build ultra-modern civil aircraft! Massively, cheaply, with our service centers, for yourself and for export!

      Over the years, the production of civilian aircraft of various classes has been severely launched. Moreover, the market, even the domestic one, is oversaturated with Boeings and Watermelons and it is almost impossible to crowd them out in such a lobby. We need a state program to ensure that not only new domestic civilian vessels appear, but also that they are bought at least our airlines in good numbers.
    2. avt
      avt 3 June 2016 08: 48
      +3
      Quote: surozh
      I do not believe that we cannot build state-of-the-art civil aircraft

      request I believe, I don’t believe, just like guessing on a daisy. Take a look at the photo, well, the Tu-334 Kazan orphan, then
      Quote: surozh
      Massively, cheaply, with our service centers, for yourself and for export!

      understand that it turns out not necessary ..... request but it should be EXPENSIVE, like a Superbudget, and preferably 80% of imported components with "intellectual" property from Boeing. Well, briefly, Kudrin announced this at Putin's meeting, so that at least how, even on all fours, without pants, but will fit into what anything ,, technologies common to all mankind " request And the photo story is good.
      Quote: Leto
      In the KAPO workshop there are two (as far as I remember) unfinished Tu-160s, so they will be completed in a few years, they will surrender with pomp and forget the old promises ...

      What is being repaired with modernization and brought up to flight condition is great. But then what? This is really a question of questions.
  13. FID
    FID 3 June 2016 08: 49
    +4
    I remembered my youth ... How much time I spent in business trips in Kazan ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 June 2016 08: 58
      +3
      Quote: SSI
      I remembered my youth ... How much time I spent in business trips in Kazan ...

      Good morning, Sergey Ivanovich!
      I read the article and was slightly surprised at one moment ... Tu-160 board No. 14 was named Igor Sikorsky ...
      1. FID
        FID 3 June 2016 09: 16
        +1
        Hello Andrey! Yes, as soon as they didn’t call ....
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 June 2016 09: 34
          +2
          Quote: SSI
          Hello Andrey! Yes, as soon as they didn’t call ....

          It is clear that the Sikorsky father of helicopter engineering, also a Russian, but ... he worked most of his life creating combat vehicles for an adversary ... is it right that they call a missile carrier by the name of such a person?
          1. askold
            askold 3 June 2016 13: 33
            +1
            The father of helicopter engineering, but not only - remember "Ilya Muromets" !!!
            1. Sascha
              Sascha 3 June 2016 21: 55
              +1
              Quote: askold
              The father of helicopter engineering, but not only - remember "Ilya Muromets" !!!

              I go to the service of the plant, on the entrance of which a sign hangs, they say, here ... Sikorsky ... Ilya Muromets ...
              This is a paleobotanical fact. Sikorsky did not leave any noticeable influence on the development of domestic aircraft construction. He lived a long, eventful life. And Ilya Muromets was ... something like ... a passion for modeling in a pioneer camp. Against the background of his achievements - some fact from his youth. Considering how Sikorsky was realized in America, I think, against the backdrop of the enormity of his design work, if he even remembered Muromets, then ... there’s no idea where. He did not attend Russian clubs, and did not drink with the former royal lieutenants.
              Where are his students in Russia, his design bureau, his ideas, ideas, machines based on, links to his achievements when making decisions?
              There are a couple of photographs left in the encyclopedias, and a plaque on the gates of the Northern Plant. Reshetnikov remembered him in his book about DBA ... We already have a ship with the name of the hero-pilot Reshetnikov on board. Legendary person. Still alive, God grant him health.
              But Sikorsky ... Really did not find another worthy name for the ship? Russia - the birthplace of elephants. From the same series.
      2. FID
        FID 3 June 2016 09: 23
        +6
        By the way, here is a snapshot from August 16, 2014 ... soon 2 years, how to upgrade ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 June 2016 09: 31
          +3
          Quote: SSI
          By the way, here is a snapshot from August 16, 2014 ... soon 2 years, how to upgrade ...

          Let's hope that he will soon see the sky. soldier
        2. arnulla
          arnulla 3 June 2016 10: 07
          0
          What's the catch, why so long?
          1. FID
            FID 3 June 2016 10: 14
            +2
            How many workers have you seen in the workshops? I still have connections with KAPO, they don’t really go to work ...
        3. ruspilot1
          ruspilot1 3 June 2016 11: 46
          +1
          Dear SSI, how many Tu-160 are flying now?
          1. FID
            FID 3 June 2016 12: 04
            +1
            Quote: ruspilot1
            Dear SSI, how many Tu-160 are flying now?

            As part of the videoconferencing system, there are 16 aircraft, 3 on modernization ... I think 6-7 vehicles can fly into the air.
            1. ruspilot1
              ruspilot1 3 June 2016 12: 12
              +2
              Probably because of the engines such a low availability? The only good news is that all the same, different cars from these 16 periodically appear in the air.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 3 June 2016 12: 30
              +1
              Quote: SSI
              As part of the videoconferencing system, there are 16 aircraft, 3 on modernization ... I think 6-7 vehicles can fly into the air.

              Sergey Ivanovich, I think not 6-7, but rather 8-9. hi
              And I heard, like the NK-32 being upgraded. hi
              1. FID
                FID 3 June 2016 12: 40
                +4
                In addition to the motors, there is also an avionics (avionics) ... The only enterprise that manufactured ABSU-200 was closed in 2007. Repair of ABSU is a delicate matter, in the USSR there were ONLY 3 stands (complex) for checking ABSU: on the 1st MPZ, at the Zhukovsky Academy and in Priluki, I debugged all 3 ... There is no 1st MPZ, there is no Zhukovsky Academy, Priluki yourself know where ... Instead of the 1st MPZ, now there is a closed joint stock company, I won’t say which workers in this company, one, two and pensioners without exception, I help them with what I can ... Therefore, 8-9, I don’t know, I don’t know ...
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 3 June 2016 12: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: SSI
                  Now, there is a CJSC, I won’t say what, there are workers in this CJSC, one, two and pensioners without exception, I help them with what I can ...

                  Do you think it is realistic to modernize and expand production? Or to build another plant for the production of Swans and 22s?
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 3 June 2016 12: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: SSI
                  there is also avionics (avionics) ...

                  Can KRET do this?
                  1. FID
                    FID 3 June 2016 13: 25
                    +5
                    MIEA, which KRET crushed, but they were developers, not manufacturers. On the fingers of one hand I can count people who can do something with ABSU (by the way, with ABSU-145, for the Tu-22M3, the situation is similar. To raise the machine, it is equipped with equipment from other sides. With the Tu-95MS - similarly) . I know this well, since until 2007 I worked at the 1st MPZ, which produced autopilots for all Tupolev aircraft, starting with Tu-4, autopilots for large Ilyushin cars and autopilots for missiles ...
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 3 June 2016 13: 32
                      +2
                      Quote: SSI
                      starting with Tu-4, autopilots for large Ilyushin cars and autopilots for missiles ...

                      The topic of "cold plasma" came up again, which we were talking about. Something tells me that those tests on the 160th were not removed on the back burner, but the documentation was raised and the work continued. If, God forbid, TU-160M2 sees the sky, then the issue of "cold plasma" will become very relevant. "
                      1. FID
                        FID 3 June 2016 13: 39
                        +1
                        The long end of the fuselage, behind the keel, was intended for equipment that created "cold plasma" ...
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 3 June 2016 14: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: SSI
                        The long end of the fuselage, behind the keel, was intended for equipment that created "cold plasma" ...

                        I assumed there were several "cold plasma" generators ... one where you said, the second near the cockpit, closer to the tail and on the wings ...
                        By the way, do you think that now the case would be made of composites of the PAK FA type?
                      3. FID
                        FID 3 June 2016 14: 21
                        +1
                        No, let light cars be made of composites, on "product 70", during the ABSU test, the plane already bounced ... The cockpit and the wing had no place to install generators ...
                      4. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 3 June 2016 14: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: SSI
                        There was no room for installing generators in the cockpit and on the wing ...

                        Then the keel remains in the compartment with the suppression systems and electronic warfare ... painfully huge values ​​are obtained by the EPR. And with today's realities, stealth has become relevant.
                        Sincerely. hi
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 3 June 2016 20: 41
    0
    Quote: SSI
    I remembered my youth ... How much time I spent in business trips in Kazan ...

    And how many good women did you meet?
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 3 June 2016 09: 34
    +2
    TU-22M3 and TU-160 on take-off with their roaring engines .. this is an indescribable delight with the mosh and the beauty of these monsters.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 3 June 2016 09: 35
    0
    So SNTK and Motorostroitel produce NK 32 engines, and do they produce NK 25 engines for Tu 22M3?
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 3 June 2016 09: 45
      0
      NK 32 now really produce?
      1. FID
        FID 3 June 2016 10: 15
        +3
        They are trying to establish the production of new ones, while overhaul ...
  • Koronik
    Koronik 3 June 2016 11: 06
    0
    I think that for one Kazan plant, this is not a feasible load, it is necessary to connect Novosibirsk and Irkutsk.
    1. FID
      FID 3 June 2016 12: 05
      +2
      And what will they do ???
    2. pavelty
      pavelty 3 June 2016 12: 16
      +1
      These plants have a different specialization.
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  • Sascha
    Sascha 3 June 2016 15: 17
    +1
    "Painfully familiar image ...." (C)
    Locksmiths with a drill on the assembly, carrying lamps, a tool bag made of tarpaulin .... juice of mulen bolts, rivets.
    The culture of production is quite advanced ... for the end of the 60s, the beginning of the 70s.
    Theoretically, air defense systems with radar systems can also be thrust on the Aurora, call it Aurora-2M, excitedly inform that they look similar in appearance, but the filling of these ships is completely different. Like, in fact - this is a new, modern ship ......
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 3 June 2016 20: 30
      0
      Take a closer look at the twig of advanced Western aircraft building thought (f-35) for hell knows how many billions of pieces of paper, and you will see all the same rivets, rivets, rivets. So far this is the best. Or do you propose to chop off wings for airplanes, because they have been put on airplanes since the beginning of the last century.
      1. Sascha
        Sascha 3 June 2016 22: 25
        0
        Nah, I’m not talking about that ...
        Being at a tender age, I sculpted a course project, so I took the data on the NK-25 as a basis ...
        In design and technological practice, I remember that the shop manager fought against a drill in an assembly in mortal combat ... How many megajoules of nervous energy were spent on this subject at the factory ....
        Many years later, I also visited Hamburg (for a different reason), but I watched with interest how the rioters rivet at the bourgeoisie ...
        What can I say ... rivets - yes, where could they be without them. Nowhere without them. Everything is as usual with us - it is crookedly cut, but firmly sewn.
        It’s not from a good life that Grandfather Moskvich has to roll out of the garage. Tuning Schooning, Brabus brakes, music from the Meridian ...
        "New model !!" (FROM)
  • Al1977
    Al1977 3 June 2016 15: 25
    +1
    The cockpit, of course, is an aircraft of the last century. Many "alarm clocks", buttons, light bulbs ... In the 21st century, everything is displayed ...
    It is a pity that knowing how to make military aircraft, with civilian priests. We, as they always said, do not do it, everything turns out to be a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
    1. FID
      FID 3 June 2016 16: 25
      +3
      Well, the Tu-214 cockpit is also shown, "glass", by the way, but for a military aircraft such a cockpit is harmful. In front of each pilot and in front of the navigator there are 2 PKP devices (flight command device) and PNP (planned navigation device) - only 6, and in the "glass" cockpit they are combined into 2 displays, plus 2 displays with the characteristics of "hardware" and motors, i.e. .e. 3 times less redundancy.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 3 June 2016 22: 22
        0
        Quote: SSI
        those. 3 times less redundancy.

        There is also an opinion that displays glare indecently in the sun, unlike alarms. I can't vouch for the reliability, I "heard" it somewhere.
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 6 June 2016 10: 05
        0
        Quote: SSI
        Well, the Tu-214 cockpit is also shown, "glass", by the way, but for a military aircraft such a cockpit is harmful. In front of each pilot and in front of the navigator there are 2 PKP devices (flight command device) and PNP (planned navigation device) - only 6, and in the "glass" cockpit they are combined into 2 displays, plus 2 displays with the characteristics of "hardware" and motors, i.e. .e. 3 times less redundancy.

        Civil aircraft are many times more in the air and vice versa are satisfied with the "glass" cockpit ... Why is it wrong with the military? So on fighters, too, information is displayed on an electronic display ...
        Not a specialist in avionics, just wondering is this "our way", or is this how foreign aircraft are arranged?
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 3 June 2016 15: 27
    +2
    Quote: Leto
    The heaviest combat aircraft in the world in take-off weight.

    This is not an indicator of superiority, far from it.
    Since April 2015, on behalf of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu, the production of the Tu-160 was resumed at the Kazan Aviation Plant.

    At best, they will complete the two buildings that have been at the factory since Soviet times and that’s all.
    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, an additional 50 modernized strategic Tu-160M2 bombers will be built.

    Trending is not tossing bags, it was possible to declare 100 and 100500, it’s like with the promised flight to the moon ...
    The modern aircraft in its design has about 200 thousand bolts and 2-3 million rivets.

    The prefix "modern" in this case for a laugh? MS-21 is modern, but Tu-214 is an ancient junk suitable only for scrap.

    How much dear LETO do you have bile, negativity, negilism ... how many saw your comments, well, everything is with a minus sign, well, everything judging by them is bad, everything is wrong .... but never wrote, but how and who it will do ..
    1. Leto
      Leto 3 June 2016 17: 40
      +1
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      but they never wrote, but how to and who will do it ..

      And what is there to write, you need to start from school. What did the communists come to power? Engaged in the eradication of illiteracy. Now the reverse process is happening.
      You don’t need to tell who the universities are graduating from, some lawyers, financiers and marketers, will they design or produce planes?
      You accuse me of nihilism, and you (and not you alone) turn a blind eye to things without which the production of high-tech products is impossible.
  • dionis
    dionis 3 June 2016 15: 51
    +1
    The fact that they decided to massively rebuild the Tu-160, even in a modernized version, speaks of the deplorable state of our aircraft industry. It is not possible already with this power to build new bombers. So they decided to reanimate the old project. All our power rests on what remains of the Soviets. First of all, we are not affected by nuclear weapons. Squandering the country continues.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 June 2016 16: 00
      +2
      Quote: dionis
      The fact that they decided to massively rebuild the Tu-160, even in a modernized version, speaks of the deplorable state of our aircraft industry. It is not possible already with this power to build new bombers. So they decided to reanimate the old project. All our power rests on what remains of the Soviets. First of all, we are not affected by nuclear weapons. Squandering the country continues.

      What’s the reason for this? Tu-160M2 is a new bomber. From the old Cygnus, in fact, there will only be a hull. And the second ... in order to create a PAK, it’s easier to create a transition machine in order to work out many components and assemblies on it , which then will go on a new bomber. So, by the way, they did with the PAK FA, creating the SU-35S, on which much of what is on the T-50 is rolled around.
      And one more thing ... aircraft builders have a 50% rule ... it sounds like this: if a new plane has more than 50% of a new one, then it is unlikely to take off ...
  • doework
    doework 3 June 2016 16: 14
    +2
    Thanks for the photo report! Handsome men "White Swans", thanks to the Tupolev Design Bureau!
    As for the "culture of production", tools, avionics, ... well, what can you do - there is a lag, and not a small one, but in any case - everything must be modernized and improved! After all, almost all production in our country has not been modernized since the 80s, neither machine-tool industry, nor microelectronics, nor CAD ...
    It's time to work!. Kazan citizens - high loading and excellent quality of work!
  • cedar
    cedar 3 June 2016 18: 59
    0
    Of course, if it weren’t for Russia's nuclear weapons, and the means of their delivery, we would have long had Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya in one bottle. The brothers in their mind would gobble up and digest ... Naturally, the country's leadership’s desire to avoid a war, much less a nuclear war, but this can be done without leaving the world bankocracy a chance and hope to survive the third world apocalypse.
    Strategic aviation, barraging off the coast and at the borders of countries with their CPs, ZKPs and caches, is a good cold shower for evil geniuses, and if hypersonic missiles are also placed on the Tu-160M2, the shower will be icy!
    This year, I hope Putin will solve the problem of dual power, i.e. will make a real sovereign ruble out of the American clone, capable of working for the country, including its civil and military aviation, and not for the fat Anglo-American cats from the trap. In any case, photographs of working factory workers inspire reasonable hope!
  • gfs84
    gfs84 3 June 2016 20: 42
    0
    Is the temporary difference between 2 and 27 photos interesting (I don’t think the title)?

    on the second there is a car (204th) in the livery of KRASAERO and TRANSAEROvsky 214th, both companies no longer operate them (one Dankrot 2008, the other no better than 2015), but this does not attract attention, and the movement in the parking lot is 334th. ..
    The car seems to be the same, but on the 27th photo is no longer in the sump ...
    It turns out that they really returned to the topic of objection to the project?
    Although all the latest data from "experts" indicate that the 100th dry is not for sale, but what do you expect from the ancient, uneconomical, etc. etc. 334th ??
    and what engine is there? both options under consideration, as far as I remember, are not continuous .. that is Ukrainian D-436T1, that Anglo-German BR715-56 ...
  • Kotost
    Kotost 4 June 2016 17: 56
    +1
    While our country is building such machines, I sleep peacefully!
    ps our engineers are the best!
  • killganoff
    killganoff 15 February 2017 12: 16
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    It is likely that the reserve of the times of the USSR will be used.
    Interestingly, in what year was the fuselage laid down for this new Tu-160 ???
    1. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 12 March 2017 22: 18
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      [/ quote] [quote = killganoff] It is likely that the reserve of the times of the USSR will be used.
      Interestingly, in what year was the fuselage laid down for this new Tu-160 ???

      Do not jerk. A new line is being created for the Tu-160M2. And it will be put into operation soon.