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Ukrainian "Bucephalus" plows the Saltov reservoir (video)

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The National Academy of the National Guard of Ukraine published a video of the Bucephal BTR-4 “Bucefal” export test on water produced by the Morozov Kharkiv Design Bureau.


Ukrainian "Bucephalus" plows the Saltov reservoir (video)


The test was carried out in the Kharkov region on the Saltovsky (Pechenezhsky) reservoir. An armored vehicle in this configuration is proposed for the marines of an unnamed country.

The commentary to the video states that "the armored personnel carrier has several modifications with different power plants and additional equipment, depending on the tasks it will perform."

“The work on the improvement of the armored vehicle continues to this day. Bureau representatives are experimenting, installing new power plants, additional equipment, and various types of weapons. On the basis of the conveyor they create special modifications for non-combat tasks, ”the commentary says.

It is noted that "the BTR-4 was delivered to the National Guard to evacuate the wounded and deliver them to places of treatment that do not have weapons, but are enlarged to accommodate medical equipment."

Recall that the development of the machine began in 2002 g on the initiative of the Kharkiv Design Bureau under the theme of the ROC "Ladya".

Photos used:
press service of the National Guard of Ukraine
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  1. evil partisan
    evil partisan 2 June 2016 15: 37
    +12
    Underwater bulldozer mmml. In potential yes ..
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 2 June 2016 15: 40
      +14
      Yesterday I read that they are flowing and the armor is cracking. And Iraq generally refused to accept the second batch, after the first one was used.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 2 June 2016 15: 44
        +38
        Ukrainian "Bucephalus" furrows the Saltovskoe reservoir

        Quote: vodolaz
        Yesterday I read that they are flowing and the armor is cracking

        "Hydrocephalus" then suits him better laughing
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 June 2016 15: 50
          +19
          He looked and understood that if someone moved inside he would drown.
          1. cap
            cap 2 June 2016 16: 54
            +11
            Quote: cniza
            He looked and understood that if someone moved inside he would drown.


            If the excitement is even two points, the screws will furrow the air.
            I don’t envy the crew.
            This I as a yachtsman declare.
            Urgent scuba kit laughing
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      2. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 2 June 2016 15: 59
        +3
        By the way, they noticed in the photo whether they were glued over with oilcloth or glued with cellophane, I won’t be surprised if they regretted the sealant.
      3. DEfindER
        DEfindER 2 June 2016 16: 42
        +6
        In principle, in cooperation with Russia, they could have done a good machine, since 2002 they have been doing something to give birth .. but because ties are broken, it’s unlikely that anything worthy will come of, especially for sale, they themselves will float in these wunderwafes ..
      4. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 2 June 2016 18: 03
        +4
        What are you doing?
        They are sealant for 120 p. in a hardware store missed.
        Flowed, and then their "Bandera scholars" made a change to the project - the sealant rules!
      5. avdkrd
        avdkrd 3 June 2016 02: 22
        +1
        Quote: vodolaz
        Yesterday I read that they are flowing and the armor is cracking. And Iraq generally refused to accept the second batch, after the first one was used.

        It is not entirely clear where they read and when they believed what they read .... Kakli, supplying their armored personnel carriers to Iraq, could not even think about cracks in their armor. The manufacturer was simply "tipped". They just did it)))) It is clear that the manufacturer knew and knows that the welding technology requires energy costs, professionals and equipment. I have already seen "professional" drawings on a "theme" - Ukrostan is constantly burning. Tirex is just _. "Some kind of holiday", and a holiday of incompetence. The Ukrainian school of tank building did not differ much from the Russian one, in which they were even trendsetters (de jure). In principle, everyone objectively considers Russia to be the homeland of the best tanks, and no one disputes this (except for the American military-industrial complex) .Kakly is generally technologically unable to ensure the process of welding armor in accordance with GOST. Cracks in the armor are the norm for garage assembly. Materials science is not a "garage build" hobbyhorse.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 2 June 2016 15: 42
      +20
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Underwater bulldozer mmml. In potential

      Judging by the video, he’s seriously overloaded, he has a big draft. To speak of seaworthiness is unnecessary, although xs. request
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 2 June 2016 15: 50
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Judging by the video, he’s seriously overloaded, he has a big draft. It’s unnecessary to talk about seaworthiness,

        Those. still an underwater bulldozer? wink
        Hello to the Meshchera poachers! drinks
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 2 June 2016 15: 54
          +3
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Those. still an underwater bulldozer?

          Why immediately bulldozer !? request Maybe a cable layer, rice seeder or bathyscaphe. what
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Hello to the Meshchera poachers!

          Hi colleague. drinks Why immediately a poacher ?! No.
        2. Alf
          Alf 2 June 2016 22: 10
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Those. still an underwater bulldozer?

          This is a special vehicle for operations against marine special forces.
      2. free
        free 2 June 2016 16: 17
        +7
        on such ground our eighties fly, and this is barely rushing, heavy!
      3. figwam
        figwam 2 June 2016 16: 27
        +10
        And speech behind the scenes, all in Russian and not a word in Ukrainian, but because all the scientific and technical documentation in Ukraine is in Russian.
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 2 June 2016 16: 35
          +18
          Quote: figvam
          because all the scientific and technical documentation in Ukraine is in Russian.

          No. Here you are a colleague wrong. In 2013 near Surgut met a man from Ukraine. Sopromat teacher at the university. Some decent high school (I don’t remember already). So: by 2012, they had already been transferred, for several years, to teaching Sopromat on mov. as a result, in 2012, he spat on everything there and turned to our oil fields. Like this....
          1. figwam
            figwam 2 June 2016 17: 20
            +5
            In most cases, a couple of letters change in the Russian word, it turns out a technical mov.
            1. mojohed2012
              mojohed2012 2 June 2016 18: 07
              +12
              Russian - Synchrophasotron.
              On mov - Synkrokhazokron!
              Technical mov EP.
              Or: Sinusoid - Bending-extensor tape.
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 2 June 2016 19: 24
          +7
          The fact that the speech is in Russian is another proof that Russians and Ukrainians (Westerners) have nothing in common. I hope this brain cancer can still be cured. And pepelats is not viable, definitely. I was all "afraid", or get stuck, or drown. Keep it up.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 June 2016 20: 51
            +4
            So Kharkov is. Someone in the same place and in Ukrainian said a few words. But do not flatter yourself. I at one time was surprised at the huge number of Russian-speaking Svidomo, including from Kharkov.
      4. cap
        cap 2 June 2016 16: 59
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Underwater bulldozer mmml. In potential

        Judging by the video, he’s seriously overloaded, he has a big draft. To speak of seaworthiness is unnecessary, although xs. request


        Remove the tower, remove the wheels, unload the ammunition, you get a normal boat heifers to carry on weekends laughing
      5. rammjager
        rammjager 2 June 2016 18: 00
        +2
        And if you still load the BC and the landing with equipment?
    3. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 2 June 2016 15: 43
      0
      Why is this a sad bowel movement?
    4. Andrey K
      Andrey K 2 June 2016 15: 53
      +12
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Underwater bulldozer mmml. In potential yes ..

      The phrase from the article: "... An armored vehicle in this configuration is offered for the marines of an unnamed country ...", you did not attach any importance to it, there is just a mistake laughing
      Not "unnamed", but "non-existent" - that is, country "404" laughing
      1. polkovnik manuch
        polkovnik manuch 2 June 2016 20: 57
        +1
        Indeed, what kind of country is this? Who decided to take a chance?
    5. Dam
      Dam 2 June 2016 16: 24
      +13
      He's a shit. Especially the joyous cry of "excellent" when the wunderwolf pops up. That is, there was no faith
    6. Platonich
      Platonich 2 June 2016 16: 27
      +6
      Allah Akbar ...
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 2 June 2016 16: 32
      +4
      And I feel sorry for the Ukrainian men. They have at least some kind of work, albeit on "Bucephalus".
    8. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 2 June 2016 17: 13
      +4
      Yes, even though he was deeply immersed. Mehvod go and did what the main thing in the tank
    9. sgazeev
      sgazeev 2 June 2016 18: 29
      +2
      Why not Boniface? laughing
    10. Buskanov
      Buskanov 2 June 2016 18: 32
      +3
      Smiled at 4:08 when he gave the brakes: D
      Underwater brakes - this is scary!
    11. Tersky
      Tersky 2 June 2016 21: 38
      +4
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Underwater bulldozer

      Well yes... yes , only if this is "Bucephalus", then this is Alexander the Great
      1. Berkut752
        Berkut752 3 June 2016 14: 36
        +1
        Can I change the text?
        And to take words from the anthem of Ukraine, with the question: Has Ukraine not yet died ?????
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 2 June 2016 15: 37
    +11
    All have heard about the quality of dill homemade! Iraqis generally refused and returned back. I imagine how to put it mildly afraid to swim in this junk))))))
    1. enot73
      enot73 2 June 2016 15: 55
      +4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      All have heard about the quality of dill homemade! Iraqis generally refused and returned back. I imagine how to put it mildly afraid to swim in this junk))))))
      Unfortunately, not everything is so bad with armored vehicles in the dill state. In addition to BTR 4, there are other vehicles. у
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 2 June 2016 16: 18
        +10
        So on the Soviet BTR-80 you can still rivet anything for a long time. This development can hardly be called completely Ukrainian.
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 2 June 2016 17: 14
        +3
        Quote: enot73
        Unfortunately, not everything is so bad with armored vehicles in the dill state. In addition to BTR 4, there are other vehicles.


        And what does the dill state and this APC have to do with it?
        The case of the old 80s, a little slack, the chassis is also not theirs ..... if only a tower, and then it was developed in cooperation with the Russian Federation.
        1. enot73
          enot73 2 June 2016 17: 58
          0
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          And what does the dill state and this APC have to do with it?
          The case of the old 80s, a little slack, the chassis is also not theirs ..... if only a tower, and then it was developed in cooperation with the Russian Federation.
          I wonder why, in your opinion, the equipment manufactured at the "non-deposit" has nothing to do with the country of manufacture. 7 It is not about how "purely Ukrainian" this development is. The main thing is where and how the armored personnel carriers are produced. The fact is that as of the beginning of 2015, the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine mastered the production of 90% of components and components for the BTR-3 and these machines, in addition to Ukraine, are already in different quantities in several countries, for example, it was delivered to Thailand more than 180 armored personnel carriers - 3 different modifications.
          1. Berkut752
            Berkut752 3 June 2016 14: 54
            0
            You do not carefully read the news, but you may have missed it.
            "for example, more than 180 armored personnel carriers have been delivered to Thailand - 3 different modifications." The contract was terminated, the armored personnel carriers were returned to Ukraine.
      3. region58
        region58 2 June 2016 20: 48
        +2
        Quote: enot73
        Unfortunately, not everything is so bad with armored vehicles in the dill state. In addition to BTR 4, there are other vehicles.

        Yes, they have everything, and production, and specialists, and the school remained good. After the collapse of the Union, they had only almost more left than in Russia, and industry and weapons (not including nuclear). It’s just that the wrong people were in power ... well, off we go ...
        And on the topic - it is not clear with what load it was tested, maybe empty, or maybe the maximum ...
        1. Berkut752
          Berkut752 3 June 2016 14: 56
          +1
          You missed the news about the revival of the Ukrainian submarine fleet.
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    1. demo
      demo 2 June 2016 15: 40
      +6
      "For the Marines of an undefined country."
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 3 June 2016 00: 24
        0
        Quote: demo
        "For the Marines of an undefined country."

        and what, all the main things under water, only BM on the surface, so it turned out to be an incomplete submersible submarine ... laughing
  4. PROSTEEL
    PROSTEEL 2 June 2016 15: 39
    +5
    It’s not bad for the current state of the Ukrainian defense industry. But still work and work.
    Speed, snorkel, combat module, engine ...
  5. Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 2 June 2016 15: 41
    +2
    overpower someone. I personally do not care.
  6. pavelty
    pavelty 2 June 2016 15: 41
    +7
    In Tajikistan, there is Iskanderkul Lake (Alexander's name in Persian pronunciation sounds like Iskander (Persian اسکندر)), named after Alexander, in which, according to ancient legend, his beloved horse drowned.

    But Bucephalus ended badly)
  7. Kotost
    Kotost 2 June 2016 15: 42
    +2
    Bucephalic pancake. Have you found Macedon? laughing
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 3 June 2016 01: 13
      0
      No, just a helmet, there was a documentary.
  8. Wedmak
    Wedmak 2 June 2016 15: 45
    +1
    He famously twirls circles. Only sits somehow deeply. Because of the tower? BTR-80 somehow sat higher.
    1. sako911
      sako911 2 June 2016 19: 16
      +1
      It is necessary to read in the Ukrainian news where tests with a foreign engine are written in black and white and an extra load was seized for this.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 June 2016 15: 45
    +12
    It seemed to me, or the buoyancy margin is at zero? If he load the landing on ammunition - it will turn into a submarine wassat Since this is still at least a ton, and this is an extra cubic meter of displacement. The tower is probably a bit heavy.
    Our infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers are more confident in swimming.
  10. AndreyS
    AndreyS 2 June 2016 15: 48
    +17
    Ndaaaa ... Draft of course fool. It’s interesting, and if you put troops in it, then there will only be a tower on the surface ?! I’m generally silent about the excitement of the sea (a car for the Marine Corps, an unnamed country)!
    BTR 80 afloatBTR 80 afloat

    Something like this BTR-80 floats!
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 2 June 2016 16: 06
      +8
      Quote: AndreyS
      Something like this BTR-80 floats!


      Doesn't float. "Bucephalus" swims.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 2 June 2016 16: 20
        +6
        Doesn't float. "Bucephalus" swims.

        Zadolbali. Floats. It swims. And the ship is floating. Walks ship on a sea voyage, for service, for exercises. And by the sea, ocean, lake, he swims.
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 2 June 2016 22: 27
          0
          And the sailors also go.
  11. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 2 June 2016 15: 57
    +5
    This is Bucephalus with his famous owner.
    1. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 2 June 2016 21: 00
      0
      Ukrainians are simpler, although the combat module also looks intimidating.
  12. PROSTEEL
    PROSTEEL 2 June 2016 15: 58
    +4
    If it drowns during the demonstration tests, then the developers will come in handy))
  13. fa2998
    fa2998 2 June 2016 16: 01
    +10
    Quote: Wedmak
    He famously twirls circles. Only sits somehow deeply. Because of the tower? BTR-80 somehow sat higher.

    Yes "sits" a low-water deflector half in the water, and in motion it completely hides. And obviously without ballast, empty. Load the troops and b / c and then we'll see. And I want to see the crossing of the water barrier from an unprepared shore, rarely with us the banks are lined with concrete! hi
  14. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 2 June 2016 16: 10
    +3
    Hybrid BTR-PL "baby". Draft-hell with him, and if next to "explode" !!! ???
  15. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 2 June 2016 16: 19
    +3
    looks like an armored personnel carrier and for what drove in the water pressed the brake? wanted to stop?
  16. Verdun
    Verdun 2 June 2016 16: 25
    +4
    Something I did not hear in the frame of "Ridnaya Mova" ...)) Somehow it does not fit with the ideas of Independent Ukraine. As for the APC, it looks clearly overweight in the water. A little more excitement, and the pride of the Ukrainian defense industry will not float anywhere. But if the customer is a state with only sands around, you can sell it.
  17. Cananecat
    Cananecat 2 June 2016 16: 34
    +4
    In theory, it could have been loaded to begin with on the shore, with a coefficient of 1.25. All the same, this is for the Azov bureau, a specialized enterprise. Not all Ukrainians are completely stupid people.
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 2 June 2016 17: 43
      +3
      Quote: Canecat
      In theory, he could be loaded for starters on the shore, with a coefficient of 1.25.

      Judging by the lines in the shot, this is the first descent and the first test swim. No one in their right mind would ship an amphibian the first time. Yes, and hung on this "Bucephalus" so much that it is unlikely to load.
  18. iliya87
    iliya87 2 June 2016 16: 51
    +4
    Again, Soviet developments have taken 100% and have been trying to modernize since 2002. Since raw a "peremoga" is needed now, so they are trying to pull up the ears. Good equipment is on sale with a bang, let's look at this Bucephalus. The main thing is that people don't die, the rest is not so important.
  19. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 2 June 2016 16: 59
    +2
    Yes, the car is heavy and maybe good for us (acupants), we set up factories and factories for them, and even they gave us their speech, and we need to teach our own, but laziness, let the Germans or the Turks run.
  20. rus-5819
    rus-5819 2 June 2016 17: 00
    +5
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    Underwater bulldozer mmml. In potential

    Judging by the video, he’s seriously overloaded, he has a big draft. To speak of seaworthiness is unnecessary, although xs. request


    When the weather is calm, it’s impressive somewhere on the pond, and so ... It seems they haven’t tried to shoot from the water and in motion yet, so everything is ahead of them.
    And in general, "Bucephalus"? Horse of Alexander M.? In the sense of "conquer the whole world and half of the universe"? There are more questions than answers!
    1. Verdun
      Verdun 2 June 2016 17: 17
      +4
      Quote: rus-5819
      And in general, "Bucephalus"? Horse of Alexander M.?

      While more like the horse of d'Artagnan. The one that caused the hero of the book to have his face filled in Menge ...
  21. 0895055116
    0895055116 2 June 2016 17: 15
    +4
    I agree with the previous statements - this "bucephalus" is very much like an old great-grandmother's iron in terms of buoyancy!
  22. kizhe
    kizhe 2 June 2016 17: 17
    +5
    Judging by the draft, mosquitoes must be dispersed before sailing on the reservoirs.
  23. Galleon
    Galleon 2 June 2016 17: 18
    +7
    The lateral rear-view mirrors and the rear turn signals were amused when swimming - a new word in the Rules for the movement of inland waterways or (look above!) In MPPSS-72!
    The men are clumsy that they will be able to make the taillights hermetically with the body, and if they do, they are fragile. The view from the cockpit with the shown gliding is very poor - for the driver it was not for nothing that the navigator was sitting on the shore. I support the idea that yes, developers have work, families feed, there is a prototype at the output. I do not wish them success.
  24. kontrobas
    kontrobas 2 June 2016 17: 19
    +6
    Pleased with the pleas (apparently from the designers) "well, well, well," when he just started to enter the water :) And yet it floated ...
  25. artgrad
    artgrad 2 June 2016 17: 31
    -4
    Well done Ukrainians, keep it up!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 2 June 2016 21: 11
      0
      Quote: artgrad
      Well done Ukrainians, keep it up!

      What good fellows?
      This is not even the sea, but a reservoir and the results are not the best.
  26. Myth
    Myth 2 June 2016 17: 35
    +3
    When THIS pops up, a cue is heard behind the scenes, That's YES !!! Well, I’ll say, “That's it! Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. A high-quality device, it’s interesting to ride in the cockpit?”
  27. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 June 2016 17: 44
    0
    Bul-cephalus is more appropriate.
    To be honest, all these tests have caused a smile, in short, a funny contraption turned out :)
  28. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 17: 45
    +3
    and he will not sink due to cracks in the case ????? pumps handle ???? I smile sadly ........ home-made ... surfaced and they rejoice))))) in Arzamas in the pool at one time in practice, on an armored personnel carrier - 80, sailed ....... walked more confidently .... ...
  29. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 2 June 2016 17: 52
    +1
    Video, like advertising, succeeded. From it, at first glance, we can conclude that the armored personnel carrier is very good on water and when entering and leaving it. BUT there are nuances - I would like to see the entrance-exit at the intersection, and not on concrete. And I would also like to see the buoyancy on the waves 3-4 points.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 2 June 2016 20: 10
      +2
      Quote: bogdan4ik
      Video, like advertising, succeeded. From it, at first glance, we can conclude that the armored personnel carrier is very good on water and when entering and leaving it. BUT there are nuances - I would like to see the entrance-exit at the intersection, and not on concrete. And I would also like to see the buoyancy on the waves 3-4 points.

      I read this topic at work, but the Internet was slow, I didn’t look, right now at home, I wanted to see how a normal armored personnel carrier was floating.
  30. Tanya
    Tanya 2 June 2016 17: 55
    +1
    Quote: Myth
    When THIS pops up, a cue is heard behind the scenes, That's YES !!! Well, I’ll say, “That's it! Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. A high-quality device, it’s interesting to ride in the cockpit?”


    Necessary! laughing
  31. esaul1950
    esaul1950 2 June 2016 18: 15
    +1
    Something is sitting a little trough, I wonder what kind of visibility from the driver's seat and happiness, that there is no wave.
  32. Damask
    Damask 2 June 2016 19: 19
    +1
    Dangerous painful draft, a couple of warriors and a submarine, and why did he need a breakwater, no use in the wave, it will immediately leave
  33. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 2 June 2016 19: 34
    +1
    Not for nothing they say: "As you name the ship, so it will float!" ...
  34. fox14
    fox14 2 June 2016 20: 11
    +1
    with a landing and a full load it’ll drown unambiguously.
  35. tor978
    tor978 2 June 2016 20: 21
    +1
    Something reminded me of this old joke:
    New airliner. The stewardess enters the passenger compartment:
    - You are on our new airliner, in the bow of the plane
    we have a cinema hall, in the tail room there is a slot machine hall, at the bottom
    deck - pool, on the upper - sauna. And now, dear sirs, fasten your seat belts, and with all this crap we will try to take off.
    Well, only such associations cause me this "bucephalus", I wonder what will happen next - if the designer is hung up and shoved into it any garbage?
  36. Lester7777
    Lester7777 2 June 2016 20: 40
    0
    I think there is no need to give a reason why it not drowning.
  37. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 2 June 2016 21: 02
    0
    It’s simply impossible to put together a bunch of unconnected, but Ukrainians do not believe in it!
  38. bmv04636
    bmv04636 2 June 2016 21: 21
    0
    As I understand it, we can’t shoot left in the water?
  39. bmv04636
    bmv04636 2 June 2016 21: 29
    0
    and where is shooting from the water or weakly
  40. Dimitrakis
    Dimitrakis 2 June 2016 21: 46
    0
    Floating target.
  41. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 2 June 2016 23: 00
    0
    Quote: Platonitch
    Allah Akbar ...


    Truly Akbar! laughing
  42. nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 2 June 2016 23: 11
    -1
    Quickly saws on the water, well done.
    1. drunkram
      drunkram 3 June 2016 06: 25
      0
      the tortoise is probably swimming faster, it’s understandable Venti is not a water cannon
  43. sgr291158
    sgr291158 3 June 2016 05: 42
    0
    Well, it remains only to acquire the Marine Corps.
  44. drunkram
    drunkram 3 June 2016 06: 25
    0
    To be honest, in the first seconds I thought that he would drown right away, and then I thought that they would have posted a video where he sank) maybe they already lost a couple of them?)
  45. NordUral
    NordUral 3 June 2016 09: 15
    0
    However, in vain we giggle. After all, these are the remains of our powerful military-industrial complex of the USSR. And mainly Russian people work there. And that the leaders of the Outskirts are vile creatures, so it’s not very better here. And we, the people should do everything possible so that the liberals in power, and most of them there, do not lead the country to a final defeat. The elections are ahead and they need to be clearly explained to our and not our authorities that it is time to make a decision.
  46. code54
    code54 3 June 2016 14: 13
    0
    Some kind of ugly !!! No Charisma at all !!!
  47. mihaylo18
    mihaylo18 3 June 2016 17: 41
    0
    normal apparatus
  48. Mwg
    Mwg 4 June 2016 08: 02
    0
    Is the draft too big? At full speed, his frontal head fills with water, and the feed is almost under water. One hundred percent, they launched it without b / c and landing. As if the flood at full load, "Bucephalus" then ...
  49. Aleks163
    Aleks163 4 June 2016 11: 02
    0
    Hello people, yes you look, it’s almost 1 meter above the top of the water, and the waves will drown tryndets