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Ukrainian military camp built "according to NATO standards" could not stand the rain

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While the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine is silent, ordinary soldiers of the Ukrainian army in social networks are sharing details about how the transition to “NATO standards” is actually carried out. So, on his Facebook page, a Ukrainian soldier named Vladimir Velikozhon, who took part in training at the Yavoriv training ground, reports that the military camp, built "by standards close to NATO standards", "drowned" during the first good rain.


Of ARTICLES from 31 May (spelling, punctuation and style saved):
In the photo - our new tents USB-56 / 2005 after two months of operation at the site. We got them in the spring on rotation from the ATO area. There we had the same tents, but still Soviet ones, they were worn out over the years of operation and they were decided to replace them with domestic production of LLC "Sievertx" from Chernigov. We were wildly overjoyed, and when installed, we noticed that the fabric was some kind of thinish, inhomogeneous, but it perfectly let in sunlight. But we did not attach any special significance to this and set up these works of domestic tent construction in even rows. A victory report was made on our camp by military men on a half-page of a famous military newspaper — well done, they say, a camp built by the standards close to their mother-nato. In the photo are hundreds of tents in even rows, between them are sidewalks made of wood. Beauty in general. Everything was fine until it started to rain yesterday. Normal such. And the tents began to flow. Across the landfill. Flowed at the seams and in the middle. We had fun evening and night with the rescue of clothes, sleeping bags from streams of water. Someone even slept collecting water in the basin. We really want to settle to us the leadership of the Chernigov company, who set up such tents for our army at a price of about xNUMX 39 uah. a piece. We would give them a couple of beds. Another would be to see representatives of the military acceptance, who decided that the tent, rotted for two months and flowing across the surface is the norm.
PS Tents in our half of the camp, around 500pcs. At a cost of 40 thousand per unit, a normal amount is obtained.




The information is confirmed by other Ukrainian servicemen, as well as volunteers, stating that at the place of contact of the tents with the land they were rotten already two months after installation.

We will remind that earlier the Ukrainian military personnel published photos of how vernal waters completely flooded dugouts and trenches of the "European wall" widely advertised by Yatsenyuk on the border with the Russian Federation.
Photos used:
https://www.facebook.com/velikojon
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  1. mamont5
    mamont5 2 June 2016 06: 45
    +78
    And why am I not surprised? ..
    1. poquello
      poquello 2 June 2016 06: 49
      +63
      Quote: mamont5
      And why am I not surprised? ..

      seals are being prepared
      1. tap tap
        tap tap 2 June 2016 06: 52
        +105
        Quote: poquello
        seals are being prepared

        Guinea pigs.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 2 June 2016 08: 20
          +23
          Quote: tap-tap
          Guinea pigs.

          very kind being. like hamsters. who will feed before the hind legs and stand
          1. cniza
            cniza 2 June 2016 08: 28
            +30
            It was necessary to cause NATO rain, apparently the Kremlin sent Russian rain.
          2. Belousov
            Belousov 3 June 2016 17: 50
            +2
            Well, that means they have been cooking them for 25 years. And, unfortunately, they have successfully cooked, they jump on a peep ...
          3. Belousov
            Belousov 3 June 2016 17: 50
            0
            Well, that means they have been cooking them for 25 years. And, unfortunately, they have successfully cooked, they jump on a peep ...
        2. avt
          avt 2 June 2016 09: 00
          +12
          Quote: poquello
          seals are being prepared

          Quote: tap-tap
          Guinea pigs.

          Moreover, for medical experiments wassat , train future surgical waste - according to the precepts of Klitschko prepare for the earth.
          as well as volunteers, stating that in the place of contact of the tents with the ground they rotted out already two months after installation.
          They didn’t have a single sane officer in the campaign — had the old Soviet tent been sprinkled with earth? And then they are also surprised that it rotted after two months from dampness. fool
        3. Pavel Tsybai
          Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 59
          +13
          Guinea pigs. Here are those. But I am not surprised at the Baltic states and NATO TAM is enough for 200 ticks and nothing.
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 3 June 2016 19: 53
        0
        Young, ready only for drill.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 2 June 2016 07: 04
      +49
      "Two months later, the tents rotted near the ground." Maybe I don't understand something according to Ukrainian rules, but according to ours, tents were not buried in the ground. There are three degrees of medical definition of dementia, but none of them on the forum, for some reason, is unacceptable. In this case, you need to start right away with the third.laughing
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 June 2016 07: 21
      -19%
      Quote: mamont5
      And why am I not surprised? ..

      because the news is so-so ... it's better than our Omsk barracks with paratroopers. Just think of the old tents rotted and flowed ...
      1. USSR 1971
        USSR 1971 2 June 2016 07: 25
        +5
        But what about the upcoming conquest of the Arctic?
      2. Jamuqa
        Jamuqa 2 June 2016 08: 48
        +3
        A call to pity, to a sense of duty, guilt - this is the favorite method of the manipulator
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 2 June 2016 09: 53
        +22
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: mamont5
        And why am I not surprised? ..

        because the news is so-so ... it's better than our Omsk barracks with paratroopers. Just think of the old tents rotted and flowed ...

        And so it will always and everywhere where the army is led by hucksters. And in Ukraine, hucksters manage not the army, but the country. Huckster must trade, not lead! And when the huckster begins to lead - he still trades - both the country and the army. They have Poresenko, we have Taburetkin ...

        And about the barracks - now a lot of things can be attributed (and are written off!) To the "heavy legacy of socialism." And low-quality masonry in 1975 too. Only in the 70s did the barracks not collapse. And how did she stand for 40 years, with poor-quality masonry? Ask any builder - if the BUILDING is properly operated (groundwater is removed, the roof is repaired on time, etc.) then it would have stood 40 years - it would have stood another 100. And here is the 2013 repair .... Yes, it was not Taburetkin who personally directed this repair. And he didn’t steal money from him. His males, his brainchild are sucking firms ... So everything is simple with the barracks - knocking down prices, kickbacks, offshore, for the remaining 25% of the money - repairs by the not-so-skilled migrant workers ...
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 2 June 2016 10: 18
          +8
          Quote: Zoldat_A

          And so it will be always and everywhere where hucksters manage.

          Lyokha, who can argue that? I'm talking about "news" bullshit! they made a rzhaku on the site, forgetting about our guys covered by the barracks, the kakly also neighing ... you know, it's like having wet yourself, showing your neighbor his spot on his pants ...
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 June 2016 10: 48
            +8
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            they made a rzhaku on the site, forgetting about our boys, who were bombarded with barracks-kaklys, they also laughed ... you know, it's like urinating, showing a neighbor on his spot on his pants ...

            So I did not minus - on the contrary ...

            It’s cool, probably, to poke one another on wet pants with a finger ... And everyone is to blame - the BARGERS ... What do they have, what do we have ... Himself Adam's apple would have pulled out ... For now there will be enough forces ...
            1. Pavel Tsybai
              Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 14: 03
              +4
              Until our tenders are removed for the better.
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 2 June 2016 18: 49
                +5
                It is not necessary to cancel tenders, but effective morons from management and control!
                1. Trotil42
                  Trotil42 4 June 2016 04: 56
                  +2
                  Or to make the legislation truly anti-corruption and finally begin to apply it ... where is the confiscation?
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        2. Lukich
          Lukich 2 June 2016 14: 09
          +4
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          repair by guest workers-inexperienced ...

          let disagree. They work very high quality and conscientiously. but two conditions. take not from the street, but on the recommendation. control, but not constant, but to feel that he is. and recommendations. don't be rude, don't scream. pay on time. The result is excellent both in quality and in terms of time.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 June 2016 18: 57
            +10
            Quote: Lukich
            take not from the street, but on the recommendation. control, but not constant, but to feel that he is. and recommendations. don't be rude, don't scream. pay on time. excellent results in terms of quality and timing

            Duc of these and their own ... They cost only good money. The professional himself and I do not like amateurs.

            And to pick up just anyone, in Russian, not belmes, with fleas, unwashed, for three days - then others will come. The salary is 500 rubles a day. Half once a month, the second - once every three months, in a handful, like ... Only three months no one can stand it, because they don't know how to work and don't want to. We arrived as if we had pancakes to our mother-in-law - to collect nishtyaks for free ... And this herd of people in 20-30 is commanded by two of us - they themselves do not understand a damn thing about construction. Those who only know how to bring down the prices at the tender to an indecent minimum - with such a "brigade" they will not go bankrupt anyway, go to the Uzbeks to yell and throw them. These are the "contractors" once God sent ... For sins, probably ... He kicked out the whole office on the fifth day. Paid for a percentage - for cubes-squares ...

            I have been to Central Asia many times in the service, I saw what kind of builders they have ... I saw Samarkand, Bukhara, and Tashkent ... So good builders don't come here - they are needed there. And here the "Tashkent-Moscow" train climbs all kinds of dust - who is not needed there ...

            I am not an imperial chauvinist and not a racist, but I am hiring ours. Also, however, not all in a row. Only verified. As a result, it turns out cheaper than a dozen contractors with such gop teams to change ... There is, however, an exception - I always take a team of Tajik loaders from a friend’s company. Guards, not movers !!! But also with local flavor. There they have their own buy, he drives them all - he doesn’t let them raise their heads. But they work - it's nice to pay for such work ...
        3. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 2 June 2016 19: 58
          +1
          Exactly, in the hole!
        4. nalogoplatelschik
          nalogoplatelschik 2 June 2016 21: 30
          +2
          Meticulously noticed. There was such a Mr. Schliemann. He found Troy. And before that, he sawed a bunch of dough on the supplies of the Russian army of any rot. The king wanted to hang him, but he was already behind the bar. By pure chance, he did not die in a ditch, literally. However, he died anyway, only in the hospital.
        5. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 3 June 2016 07: 39
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Yes, it was not Taburetkin who personally directed this repair. And he didn’t steal money from him. His fosterlings, his brainchild are suction companies ...

          You want to say that they didn’t steal before him? And do not steal after?
      4. Pilot
        Pilot 3 June 2016 19: 29
        0
        Yes it was.
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: mamont5
        And why am I not surprised? ..

        because the news is so-so ... it's better than our Omsk barracks with paratroopers. Just think of the old tents rotted and flowed ...

        Now it’s different. You are stuck in the past. Wake up, buddy. As we served, it will not be so. I hope so.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 3 June 2016 20: 07
          +2
          Quote: Pilot
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      5. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 June 2016 14: 24
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        old tents rotted-flowed

        Actually new, not old.
      6. vkfriendly
        vkfriendly 5 June 2016 04: 32
        0
        And why are they so minded, we do not recognize the fact of the collapse of the barracks? , and what it was. Or are the stubborn patriots gathered here as resources?
    5. icas
      icas 2 June 2016 07: 59
      +8
      By NATO standards, you cannot fight at temperatures below -5C.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 2 June 2016 08: 26
        +5
        Quote: icas
        By NATO standards, you cannot fight at temperatures below -5C.

        I didn’t know) and, what, according to the barracks, or a bayonet in the ground and voluntarily restore what they smashed? I am for climate weapons. even -10. we will survive, and this evil ... maybe when archaeologists dig it up. in overseeing
        1. jjj
          jjj 2 June 2016 09: 23
          -2
          At such a temperature, their urine in diapers freezes and the weapon does not shoot
      2. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 3 June 2016 00: 30
        0
        Otkel firewood?
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    7. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 4 June 2016 21: 15
      +1
      About 40000 UAH apiece. 500 tents (and in total there are more of them, as it is said only about half of the camp). We multiply 500 by 40000 total - 20 million hryvnia. We translate into rubles - it will turn out approximately 53,6 million rubles.
  2. avvg
    avvg 2 June 2016 06: 46
    +11
    The NATO standard is drowning out of the blue.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 2 June 2016 06: 48
      +6
      Quote: avvg
      NATO standard - drown out of the blue.

      Sorry, standard dill laughing
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 June 2016 10: 57
      +5
      Quote: avvg
      The NATO standard is drowning out of the blue.

      Mikhail Evgrafovich Avon when he still described all this! How to ride a time machine - 1870 year !!!!. And all about Ukraine-2016.
      We went around, but here came across a swamp, which no one suspected. Borodavkin looked at the geometrical plan of the pasture - everywhere there is arable land, yes there is mowing in the wet place, and there is a small part to the bush, and some to the stone, and there is no swamp, and it is full.
      - There is no swamp here! you're lying, scoundrels! march! - Borodavkin commanded and stood on a bump to closer observe the crossing.
      People climbed into the quagmire and immediately sank all artillery. However, they themselves somehow got out, getting dirty in the mud.
      Borodavkin also got dirty, but he was not up to it. He glanced at the dead artillery and, seeing that the cannons, half-submerged, were standing, turning the vent to the sky and, as if threatening the last execution, he began to grieve and grieve.
      “How many years he saved, shore, groomed,” he murmured, “what will I do now!” how without guns I will rule!
      The army was completely demoralized. When they climbed out of the quagmire, a vast plain again appeared before his eyes and again without any sign of housing. Human bones lay in places and piles of bricks towered; all this testified that at one time there was a rather strong and peculiar civilization (later it turned out that this civilization, having been drunk as a riot, was destroyed by the former mayor Urus-Kugush-Kildibaev)but since then many years have passed, and not a single town governor has taken care of restoring it.
      All my life I remember clever words spoken to me in my early youth "Read the classics, everything is written there"
  3. Barakuda
    Barakuda 2 June 2016 06: 47
    +3
    In vain so. Stew and condensed milk are breaking. The article was one year late. sad I am not a separ, nor a ghoul. but you need to know the truth. Maybe in some parts it does. With local, you can exchange the box on the TFT panel calmly.
  4. Lukich
    Lukich 2 June 2016 06: 47
    +7
    We really want to bring the leadership of the Chernihiv company to us, who has set up such tents for our army at a price of approx. 39 800 UAH. a piece. We would give them a couple of beds. It would be nice to see representatives of the military acceptance who decided that a tent rotten in two months and flowing over the entire surface is the norm.

    so what's up? weapons and vehicles are. forward!!!! Zrada can not be forgiven !!!!
  5. Holsten
    Holsten 2 June 2016 06: 47
    +10
    The new tents USB-56/2005 have already fulfilled their main function: army supplies with minimal costs at maximum cost. I immediately recall the supply of unsuitable products to the Crimean War - in the region, the mentality has not changed for centuries.
    1. Strategia
      Strategia 2 June 2016 22: 42
      +2
      It does not change throughout Russia, not only in Little Russia.
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 2 June 2016 06: 48
    +7
    Yes, and to hell with them. Profiting from military supplies is ineradicable, here at least chop hands, even heads. Money has rolled - there is always someone who wants to pick it up, in any army like that.
    Here in another circus - at dill tents can not stand the rain, and we have entire cities drowning. The closest example is that Krasnodar sank yesterday. And this problem exists from year to year, but no one wants to solve it, because it is easier for the mayor and his close associates to grab money for permission to build another shopping center or residential quarter, and how they will have storms is the builder’s problems. Well, the inhabitants.
    In Sochi, by the way, the same garbage.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 3 June 2016 12: 13
      +1
      Maykop sank too.
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  7. K-50
    K-50 2 June 2016 06: 54
    +12
    at the contact point of the tents with the ground

    As far as I remember, all the same 30 years have passed, tents are installed on a wooden frame, and not on the ground. Maybe they’re putting it differently now?
    1. poquello
      poquello 2 June 2016 07: 04
      +4
      Quote: K-50
      at the contact point of the tents with the ground

      As far as I remember, all the same 30 years have passed, tents are installed on a wooden frame, and not on the ground. Maybe they’re putting it differently now?

      the tree is a strategic anti-gas fuel, dill even has a special holiday, a lumberjack day
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 2 June 2016 07: 18
      +5
      Quote: K-50
      tents are mounted on a wooden frame, not on the ground.

      So, after all, the matter on the memory took place, and there already almost the entire forest was melted down a hill. That's netuti wooden frame. It would be nice if the NATO instructors and chiefs were put in these tents. So that they know what NATO expects when Ukraine is drawn into its ranks.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 2 June 2016 08: 28
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        That netuti wooden frame.

        Duc by NATO standards pneumatic frame tents, sort of).
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 2 June 2016 09: 10
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        . It would be nice if the NATO instructors and chiefs were put in these tents. So that they know what NATO expects when Ukraine is drawn into its ranks.

        so nats are prepared according to the standards of sasha. and those such disasters are not provided. more than sure, they will not find warm toilets there, they will accuse ukrobanda
    3. boris-1230
      boris-1230 2 June 2016 08: 29
      0
      Maybe they’re putting it differently now?

      Yes, in a different way! By NATO standards fool
      1. jjj
        jjj 2 June 2016 09: 26
        +4
        There the phrase was - "by standards close to NATO standards." This is Ukraine
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 2 June 2016 12: 02
          0
          Quote: jjj
          There the phrase was - "by standards close to NATO standards." This is Ukraine

          then it is necessary to rewrite. "away from nato"
  8. volodya
    volodya 2 June 2016 06: 54
    +3
    Well, here the tents have decayed, in the Baltic states ticks crawled into the tents, normal. All according to NATO standards!
    1. bocsman
      bocsman 2 June 2016 07: 46
      +5
      Quote: volodya
      Well, here the tents have decayed, in the Baltic states ticks crawled into the tents, normal. All according to NATO standards!


      These are the standards - the poor stray in which our former compatriots have turned. After all, each betrayal has its own price and measure of responsibility.

      Quote: Egoza
      It would be nice if the NATO instructors and chiefs were put in these tents. So that they know what NATO expects when Ukraine is drawn into its ranks.



      They know very well. After all, the ukroarmiya in Iraq helped them. The Ukrovoin's diary was published in Soldier of Fortune. Everything is very colorfully described there. And how the uniform spread over a month of socks and how the leadership was carried out (God forbid making some kind of decision for which then to answer) and how free drinks from the common dining room, without hesitation, were carried out with backpacks (for exchange and sale). So the independent one has all the old problems and, it seems to me, systemic or traditional. And NATO knew about everything and went to use Ukraine and its army. After all, there are times when the very last update may come in handy!
      1. akims
        akims 2 June 2016 08: 14
        +9
        I add that one of the heroes married a senior sergeant of the US Army, a hefty scary woman. But, concurrently, the head of the dining room. Che do not do for their own?
      2. volodya
        volodya 2 June 2016 08: 15
        +7
        Rather, traditional, in the USSR in the army, that no ensign crest, no matter what zavskladom that ensign!
  9. silver169
    silver169 2 June 2016 06: 55
    +4
    All of these Selyuk through the anus!
  10. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 2 June 2016 06: 57
    +3
    NATO won’t offer bullshit. Well, at least that’s good, but the tents could have exploded on a signal.
  11. Knowing
    Knowing 2 June 2016 07: 02
    +13
    Dzhavu, do not find ... Near Mariupol, last year (the current drowned there):
    1. drunkram
      drunkram 2 June 2016 07: 18
      +15
      "in a trench without drainage and a bath is not needed"
    2. TOZ-34
      TOZ-34 2 June 2016 08: 13
      +13
      The land of Ukraine does not accept this crap. Tries to get rid.
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  12. Nix1986
    Nix1986 2 June 2016 07: 05
    +3
    Everyone usually sawed grandmothers on rations, uniforms, now sawing on tents.
  13. Wolka
    Wolka 2 June 2016 07: 11
    +3
    everything that happens in Ukraine and in the zone of the so-called atom has not been surprising for a long time, but causes only vomiting and squeamishness
  14. dvg1959
    dvg1959 2 June 2016 07: 14
    +3
    Yes, let them all get wet and catch a cold there. They are all sick anyway. All the same, you need to treat them all.
  15. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 2 June 2016 07: 16
    +2
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: mamont5
    And why am I not surprised? ..

    seals are being prepared

    No, seals ...
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 2 June 2016 07: 18
    +3
    I do not know, of course, the text of the ukro-oath, but I think there is something about "hardships and hardships" there. Well, that must be endured. So we need to shut up and carry on these hardships and hardships into the bright future of non-profit. While in the pockets of the most obvious, deposits of dough are settling. And from NATO standards, you can only see the number of attendants allocated by NATO, which then successfully scam ...
  17. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 2 June 2016 07: 21
    +3
    Quote: Nix1986
    Everyone usually sawed grandmothers on rations, uniforms, now sawing on tents.

    In my opinion they’re sawing everything!
  18. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 2 June 2016 07: 26
    +3
    Well, what do you want in a rotten state rotten tents only this way and not otherwise, get used to it.
  19. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 2 June 2016 07: 39
    +2
    In Russian, called snot!
  20. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 2 June 2016 07: 51
    +5
    Well, why whine about such trifles? "Flooded, wet ..." But got rid of fleas, you will itch less. Are the tents unusable? Make huts! It's good in the hut. Look, Lenin, in Razliv in a hut, what theses he scribbled, read. And even if lunch is at the stake! You are almost Europe, which means “with a lovely paradise and in a hut.” (If a lovely attaché laughing )
    I would also like to see representatives of the military acceptance who decided that a tent rotted in two months and flowing over the entire surface is normal
    If you saw how much he was "rolled back", you would not ask such a stupid question.
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 June 2016 07: 52
    +4
    Oh, sorry. It’s a pity that this happened now, and not in November-December ...
    And we didn’t get any better, and the Americans have it.
    This is an international feature of the development of funds in the army.
  22. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 2 June 2016 08: 06
    +2
    It would be funny ..... If I didn't want to cry, remembering what was going on in the army for more than one year ..... Under the slogan "To endure hardships and hardships." And it is not known what would have happened today if there were still Taburetkin and the like. They dragged, sold and sawed all who could and what they could. And the soldier puffed "Enduring hardships and hardships ..."
    And how many more things to remember, I just don’t feel like, .... but scary and embarrassing.

    Therefore, we are now so happy and proud of Russia's military reforms and military achievements.
  23. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 2 June 2016 08: 13
    +3
    wait, these are just tents, but when you start to fight according to NATO standards, then you’ll generally get fake))))

    In general, in 2000, it began to rain so much in one part that curbs disappeared in the streets under water in 1 minute, and the plaster from the ceiling began to pour instantly from the penetrated moisture from the roofs. You look out the window from the window and you can’t see anything there the fact that there are lanterns on the street. It is as if you are looking at a solid wall of water through a waterfall. Here I understand the elements, you can not argue against it.
  24. akims
    akims 2 June 2016 08: 17
    +2
    To fight according to double or even triple NATO standards laughing
  25. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 2 June 2016 08: 19
    +2
    Normally, they buried the tents in the ground and are surprised that they are rotting. In general, the tents are attached to the wooden formwork and the drainage system is done so that the water does not flow inside. And the fact that the dough was washed on tents, probably the GDP with me was to blame, there was only one zrad laughing
  26. persei
    persei 2 June 2016 08: 27
    +1
    I doubt that it was the standard of NATO ... but the fact that some cherished some tents ... I have no doubt.
    1. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 2 June 2016 10: 00
      0
      Quote: persei
      that on tents profited

      So this is the standard of NATO. And you say the instructor garbage and dill do not learn anything. It’s not true, they know how to cut almost like their owners, or maybe even better.
      Let them exchange experience in this area.

      ZY and in general this is not a "kickback" or "drank", but lobbying. laughing
  27. Eustace
    Eustace 2 June 2016 08: 34
    +4
    Tents of Ukrainian production need impregnation of seams with pork fat. Ehh Ukrainians, you need to teach life. soldier
  28. V.ic
    V.ic 2 June 2016 08: 35
    0
    More will rot - more will be bought. It looks like the Russian car industry. Bought my son "Kalina", so the rear right wheel bearing h / z 7 thousand. Conclusion: skated for a year or two = don't bother with repairs, hand over the "old" one and buy a new one.
  29. salavat
    salavat 2 June 2016 08: 37
    +2
    There will be no military but Spartans, they don’t burn in fire and they don’t drown in water!
  30. Tanya
    Tanya 2 June 2016 08: 41
    +10
    Well, tents leaked, it happens ... To protect yourself from the vagaries of nature, you do not need to whine, you need to get dressed correctly.
  31. Denis DV
    Denis DV 2 June 2016 08: 48
    +2
    Rains of the wrong system, not NATO laughing
    There is something wrong with the tents. In the Baltic states, during militant’s exercises, ticks gored, another froze something, they say pumped laughing
  32. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 2 June 2016 08: 54
    +8
    And these are flowers
  33. Parfyon Rogozhin
    Parfyon Rogozhin 2 June 2016 08: 55
    +3
    So why do they need them in the rain?))
  34. sokolov
    sokolov 2 June 2016 09: 03
    +5
    Yavoriv training ground is generally a storehouse of all sorts of achievements and achievements of ukrarmia ... there is no month without an emergency, then explosions, then soldiers die, first of all because of sloppiness and drunkenness, then something collapses and breaks, disappears ... but if high guests-quickly make a marafet for a picture, half of the personnel-hide in the forests and villages is not a joke, but reality, God forbid, they will see the brave warriors in what condition, and they can blurt out not just what ... but when , Yavorov landfill was one of the exemplary (this is under the invaders masked and commies)
    1. Volga Cossack
      Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 09: 20
      +3
      read about this training ground. Inadequate Nature Reserve is simple - but proudly called the army!
      1. sokolov
        sokolov 2 June 2016 09: 30
        +1
        ... this is the reserve of Raguli, as indeed all of western Ukraine ...
    2. Volga Cossack
      Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 09: 20
      +1
      read about this training ground. Inadequate Nature Reserve is simple - but proudly called the army!
  35. iliya87
    iliya87 2 June 2016 09: 14
    0
    NATO standards have nothing to do with it, the United States and NATO in particular have nothing to do with tents and kondeas and with all the comforts, otherwise the military would have dragged them through the courts. But the fact that the Ukrainian military industry is in complete shit is obvious from the beginning of the conflict in / in Ukraine. And this is just another confirmation that things are not going for the better. Well, except that in the pockets of the highest ranks it was even more added.
  36. sergey2017
    sergey2017 2 June 2016 09: 18
    +4
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: K-50
    tents are mounted on a wooden frame, not on the ground.

    So, after all, the matter on the memory took place, and there already almost the entire forest was melted down a hill. That's netuti wooden frame. It would be nice if the NATO instructors and chiefs were put in these tents. So that they know what NATO expects when Ukraine is drawn into its ranks.

    So a ditch on the border with Russia was dug up for rafting, so the cunning Yatsenyuk thought everything through!
  37. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 09: 18
    +3
    zrada again - tents according to the NATO standard, but rain - non-standard - this is all Putin!
  38. Arkan
    Arkan 2 June 2016 09: 21
    +1
    Yaroslavna’s next cry, like everything was again covered !!! Punishers are not aware that the owners of this bardeler do not care about meat.
  39. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 June 2016 09: 24
    +1
    Tents of the NATO model and the miracles of the Yavorsky training ground are a consequence of the delicious catering that the aunt on Maidan carried.
  40. Bramb
    Bramb 2 June 2016 09: 56
    +3
    Earlier, Ukrainian servicemen published photographs of how the spring waters completely flooded the dugouts and trenches of the "European rampart" widely advertised by Yatsenyuk on the border with the Russian Federation.
    --------------
    Ask Yaytsenyuk for this, try it!))
    And so it will be with everything else: they will have Ukrainians and give up.
    The Angles said directly: in Ukraine there are enough 5 million people to serve. 35 million must die. And they are still striving for Europe! Even stupid cattle - and she is smarter than Ukrainians.
  41. Bramb
    Bramb 2 June 2016 09: 59
    +4
    It would be necessary for contrast to show the tents of NATO soldiers: warm, dry, with air conditioning, with pick-ups in the kitchen and warm biotulets ...
    And look at the stupid faces of Ukrainians after that. It’s interesting: then it will reach them that it’s not hemorrhoids, but they are openly * b. )))
  42. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 2 June 2016 10: 49
    +1
    Ukrainian military camp built "according to NATO standards" could not stand the rain
    Even nature laughs at these wretched people and shows where their place is ...
  43. Balagan
    Balagan 2 June 2016 11: 46
    +1
    Well Europe - and how did the horses want? Looks like decommunization has reached the tents laughing
  44. Altona
    Altona 2 June 2016 12: 22
    +2
    Revelations from the ATO zone. Why is everything so bad with us?
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 2 June 2016 16: 57
      0
      I am from the ATO zone. eat enough. There are no brains.
      1. Altona
        Altona 2 June 2016 20: 56
        +2
        Quote: Barracuda
        I am from the ATO zone. eat enough. There are no brains.

        ------------------
        So what? For example, I didn't say a word about "eating". I posted a picture with a post that says something completely different.
  45. t118an
    t118an 2 June 2016 21: 27
    +1
    They even have tents of a SOVIET model not taking root .... The son came in the fall from the Army from Kaliningrad (i.e. climate) .. in Khmelevka at a training ground .. they lived in dryness and warmth and did not complain ... From myself passed and many will confirm with Good care and Good Petty Officer .. will live for a long time ... Even the tents do not want to serve them .. So it is DONE in the USSR .. for the country that defeated fascism ... and for the mainstay troops from the invaders ... They don’t take root in everything Soviet ... and we have many generations in these tents. The soldiers lived on the training grounds, including the current neighbors who served the Soviet Union ....

    The tent USB-56 has a four-pitched roof with a ridge, vertical walls, two entrances with vestibules, twelve windows on the walls, two chimney openings, two slopes, curtain walls of heating and a device for installation. The capacity of the canvas tent is USB-56 on single beds of 20 people, on a stretcher of 30 people, on shared bunk or on the floor 40 people, and on two-tier bunks 80 people.



    The main dimensions of the tent
    The name of the indicator The value according to the external mark The value according to the internal mark
    Tent length, m 9,76 9,60
    Tent width, m 6,26 6,10
    Wall height, m ​​1,75 1,75
    Height to roof ridge, m 3,55 3,31
    Floor area, sq.m - 53,5
    Cubic capacity of air, cubic meter - 138,0
    List of individual parts of the tent
    No. p.p. Name of parts Quantity, pcs. Weight 1 pc., Kg Set weight, kg
    1 Outside litter 1 125,80 125,80
    2 Inner bitter 1 33,50 33,50
    3 Heating curtain walls 2 18,80 37,60
    4 Side guy wires 2,8 m long with a pull handle 30 0,55 16,50
    5 Vaziki 2 0,40 0,80
    6 Window frames 12 2,00 24,00
    7 Subframes 12 0,65 7,80
    8 Iron sheet to the chimney hole 2 1,15 2,30
    9 Stakes from a corner 50x50x4 mm 0,6 m long 30 2,40 72,00
    10 Wooden side posts with a length of 1,89 m 22 1,98 43,56
    11 Wooden vestibule stands 1,79 m long 4 1,94 7,76
    12 Comb of 2 parts 1 14,24 14,24
    13 Racks average composite of 2 parts 2 14,20 28,40
    14 Canvas for packaging fabric parts 2 4,70 9,40
    15 Rigging bag 1 0,34 0,34
    16 Cassette for frames, subframes and chimney sheet 2 6,50 13,00
    17 Wooden boxes for metal stakes 3 4,10 12,30
    18 Sledgehammer 5 kg with handle 1 6,0 6,0
    Factory laying and packing, tent weight
    No. of a place Name of parts of a tent Weight of a place, kg Packing method
    1 External brush - 1 pcs. 130,50 Packed in a tarp. The place is tied up with a rope
    2 Internal bait - 1 pc.; heated curtain walls - 2 pcs. 75,80 Packed in a tarp. The place is tied up with a rope
    3 Comb of 2 parts - 1 pc.; Composite middle racks - 2 pcs.; tambour stands - 4 pcs. 50,40 Unassembled, stacked in a bundle and tied in two places with a rope
    4 Side racks - 22 pcs. 43,56 Stacked in a bundle and tied in two places with a rope
    5 Side braces - 30 pcs.; vaziki - 2 pcs. 17,64 Stacked in a rigging bag
    6 Window frames - 6 pcs., Subframes - 6 pcs., Chimney sheet - 1 pc. 23,55 Stacked in a cassette
    7 Window frames - 6 pcs., Subframes - 6 pcs., Chimney sheet - 1 pc. 23,55 Stacked in a cassette
    8 Metal stakes - 10 pcs. 28,10 Stacked in a drawer
    9 Metal stakes - 10 pcs. 28,10 Stacked in a drawer
    10 Metal stakes - 10 pcs. 28,10 Stacked in a drawer
    11 Sledgehammer 5 kg with 6,0 handle
    The total weight of the tent USB-56 in the package: 455,3 kg.


    Yes ..PS ... Then My wishes live in the field and get wet ... Boilers are enough for you yet. Dogs ...
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 3 June 2016 12: 44
      0
      So he wrote that they lived in Soviet tents, but they were just old! And the ones that have rotted are just new ones, made on the edge, so they immediately flowed and rotted. Well, they installed it foolishly, as they were told, and installed it. "NATO-style", you see, in the opinion of their commanders, this is that, most importantly, the sidewalks were wooden.
  46. wandlitz
    wandlitz 3 June 2016 04: 48
    0
    Well, what can NATO standards be like in Soviet-style tents?
    In such tents, ATO campers have no place ...
  47. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 3 June 2016 10: 18
    +1
    It seems that everything is much simpler. On the website of that very Sivertex LLC it is written that:
    The tent UST-56/2015 has a four-pitched roof, vertical walls, two entrances with vestibules, four windows on the walls, one smoke outlet, two tents, heat-insulated curtain walls and rigging kit for installation

    And the inner tent should be "transparent", on top of which it is necessary to install the outer rubberized one.
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 3 June 2016 10: 51
      0
      How much do you need to be frostbitten in order not to understand that only the inside is installed?
  48. Navy7981
    Navy7981 3 June 2016 10: 23
    0
    again! stitched themselves - overpowered, flowed - zrada. The main thing is that it would not be wet, but the rain can be washed.
  49. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 June 2016 15: 53
    0
    Well, what are you laughing at, people have sorrow, NATO standards do not stand our rains, and you hihanki yes hahanki. And imagine how they will fight in the Tribaltics, there it rains almost every day. And some wise guy in the warehouse knows how much he kept the tents, that they even lost installation instructions. And you would all make fun of idiots. stop
  50. Zhnec
    Zhnec 3 June 2016 18: 36
    +1
    Quote: tap-tap
    Guinea pigs.

    Piglet