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Kiev fairy tales for limitrofov

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30 May. Kiev. Session of the Inter-Parliamentary Assembly of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Seimas of Lithuania and the Seimas and the Senate of Poland. If you say simply-skhodnyak Russophobes to talk. And to talk, of course, not about the problems that worry and worry the deputies in the participating countries. The topic should be shared.


Kiev fairy tales for limitrofov


Apparently, the topic was searched for very long. There were a lot of questions, mainly on the topic "what to do with Russia." And one of the key moments was the speech of the Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Mikhail Koval.

Why Turchinov himself did not speak, but put in his place a three-star general, hard to say. Apparently, for the weight and to believe. A man in uniform (I do not want to offend the term "military"), apparently, is simply obliged to have more weight than an unshaven mug in a crumpled jacket.

"Russian troops are preparing for active offensive actions with a view to reaching the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, as well as“ breaking through "the land corridor to the Crimea. And international sanctions against Russia remain an effective mechanism, but not sufficient to force Moscow to abandon its aggressive plans."

Well, and went on stories that "from the territory of the Russian Federation increased the amount of military cargo, heavy military equipment, which is transferred to the territory of the Crimea and the temporarily occupied areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions."

In principle, nothing new and interesting. Next came the numbers, with the help of which the pan general planned to convince the listeners of the reality of the Russian threat. And here is something.

Koval voiced the following:

“The Russian military group in the Crimea is 15 battalion tactical groups, eight company tactical groups. The total number of personnel is about 36 thousand troops who are armed with up to 300 tanks"265 artillery systems, 149 multiple launch rocket systems, 4 Tochka-U tactical missile systems, 461 combat aircraft, 303 helicopters, 23 combat ships and two submarines."

However, on the same day, in the same capital city of Kiev, but already at a briefing from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadim Skibitsky, a spokesman for the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense, spoke.

And Skibitsky called other figures of the Russian armed forces located in the Crimea.

"As of May this year, Russia's military presence in the occupied Crimea includes 24 thousand. Soldiers, 613 tanks and armored personnel carriers, 162 artillery, about 100 combat aircraft, 56 helicopters, 16 coastal missile systems, 30 martial flooded the ship, 4 submarine."

The storyteller, although the general, Koval, the right word. Although the figures voiced by the representative of the Ukrainian intelligence, it is enough to plow all the APU.

And Mr. Turchinov did not stay away. While Koval frightened the parliamentarians with figures, the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine at a meeting with the chairman of the Lithuanian parliament, Loreta Grauzhinene, was in full swing in the spirit of the times.

Turchinov began by saying that in the very near future full-scale hostilities could begin in the Donbas. And, of course, blamed Russia on this.

“Russia is not a third party, but an aggressor. It's theirs weapon used to fire in the east, it is their soldiers who kill the Ukrainians, it is they who have unleashed the war. ”

As they say, no comment, because the clinic is there. There would be "knit and prick", and listen to him.

"We see Russia daily firing at the Ukrainian positions, while practicing the use of new weapons and new methods of warfare, completely ignoring the basic positions of the Minsk agreements."

I will not even discuss the adequacy of Turchinov himself, everything is clear with this question. However, I ask the question: for the sake of what does he carry this nonsense? And everything is simple.

“We are actively developing the defense-industrial complex, but we cannot fully cover the need for the full range of weapons needed to protect Ukraine. The decision on military-technical assistance from the allies is needed not after the intensification of hostilities, but as a preventive measure. "

That's all. It's just like white day. But let's think about whom Turchinov is crucifying? Before the Balts and the Poles. That is, in front of those from whom he definitely will not receive any military assistance. And of the above allies, forgive, none.

And yet: why?

Apparently, no one wants to listen to Turchinov and his followers in the West. The song about the fact that Ukraine is protecting Europe, the world, the solar system and the galaxy from the bloodthirsty hordes of Russians, is no longer interesting to anyone.

And alas, but the "fifth army" in the world (or Europe, I do not remember exactly) has slipped to the usual limit-begging in the company of its own kind. Unbelievable, but it is a fact.

A year ago, even in the sweetest dream, I could not have imagined that the Ukrainian military and security men would beg for something in the company of the Balts. And how it all began beautifully, remember? As Biden promised and weapons, and equipment, and the latest complexes ... And where is Biden now, and most importantly, where is what he promised?

Kiev has repeatedly made statements in the wake of the ongoing virtual war with Russia. As if there is aggression of Russia, as if war is going on. It is impossible to say where, however, it goes and by what forces Russia is present and fighting there.

One could not pay attention to this nonsense, if not for the real build-up of Kiev by the troops around the DPR and LPR. Kiev junta does not shrink anything, causing discussions about the possible development of events in the south-east of Ukraine. Yes, and storytellers themselves come up with a good idea, here you can not argue.

It is easy to understand that the Kiev authorities just need to constantly stir up hysteria around the artificially created "hot spots", the Crimea and the Donbass. “Scream, you will be heard” - the principle is very old, but, according to the Ukrainian authorities, it is still very effective.

However, if not very seriously, the scenario in the case of a real outbreak of hostilities may be somewhat different - the corridor is likely to be cut not to the Crimea, but to Poland.

And two more words about the Crimea. It is impossible to say that Russia militarizes the Crimea at an accelerated pace. There is nothing more than a database update in the current environment. But even if we accept that Russia is “militarizing” the Crimea, this is not happening because of Ukraine.

The situation today in the region forces us to be active. And in terms of the rotation of troops in the Crimea, and in terms of updating the technical base. And Russia will solve these issues as it sees fit. On its territory.

And Ukraine, first of all, should be concerned about the situation in the Donbas. And since the aggravation of tension occurs precisely because of the constant military pressure and provocations on the border with the LC and the DPR from the side of Ukraine, this is the military threat to Kiev. But it does not come from Moscow, Donetsk and Lugansk, but from Kiev.

But Russia will not fight with Ukraine. No matter how hard they tried to present it to the world community in Kiev. It is strange that the Ukrainian authorities do not predict such options. A realistic approach is the only thing that can, if not save, then at least delay the moment of the final collapse of the Kiev junta.
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  1. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 2 June 2016 06: 58
    +5
    Those who are flawed in spirit and not only love to chew, like an obama ... for them it’s like a fool slipping down a mountain .... however, it’s not worth losing sight and letting out all this verbiage by gravity, or else IT will fantasize, God forbid ... Stephen King and his comrades will strangle themselves with envy ... they are such saloids, they can.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 June 2016 09: 37
      +2
      The criminal gang of Russophobia from the former republics of the USSR, but to bring it to the international level as something nekomilfo. Not the format to pay attention to. The author gives a resonance on the zero occasion, actually playing into their hands. Do we need it? hi Sorry, Roman, but here's my minus to you. Thanks only for the info!
      1. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 44
        +4
        The total number of personnel is about 36 thousand servicemen, who are armed with up to 300 tanks, 265 artillery systems, 149 multiple launch rocket systems, 4 tactical missile systems "Tochka-U", 461 combat aircraft, 303 helicopters, 23 warships and two submarines ".
        But there is one conclusion.
  2. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 2 June 2016 07: 18
    +1
    Yes, Trupchinov did not beg, most likely, but rather the Balt asked the word to put in front of the black master. After all, with. There are no Baltic armaments of NATO in the territory, but in Ukraine there. Although he may have begged, the morning will become
  3. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 2 June 2016 07: 21
    +1
    But Russia will not fight with Ukraine. No matter how hard they try to present it to the world community in Kiev ...
    Russia's military presence in occupied Crimea includes 24 thousand military personnel, 613 tanks and armored personnel carriers, 162 artillery installations, about 100 combat aircraft, 56 helicopters, 16 coastal missile systems, 30 surface ships, 4 submarines.

    The Crimean group alone is enough for Ukraine as a state to disappear from the map of Europe. Therefore, they bark in the hope that at least the Balts will intercede.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 June 2016 10: 58
      +2
      Quote: avg-mgn
      But Russia will not fight with Ukraine. No matter how hard they try to present it to the world community in Kiev ...
      Russia's military presence in occupied Crimea includes 24 thousand military personnel, 613 tanks and armored personnel carriers, 162 artillery installations, about 100 combat aircraft, 56 helicopters, 16 coastal missile systems, 30 surface ships, 4 submarines.

      The Crimean group alone is enough for Ukraine as a state to disappear from the map of Europe. Therefore, they bark in the hope that at least the Balts will intercede.


      Never say never". At one time, we could not even think that Ukraine would be a separate state. Then we could not imagine that Ukraine would be a hostile state. However, both have already happened. But Ukraine is not just a hostile state, it is an unpredictable state. For two years now we have not been able to get used to the quirks of their politicians. How can you say that Russia will not go to war with Ukraine? Who will guarantee that in the next attack of chauvinism they will not trample into Crimea? Suicide? Yes. But this is for the soldiers. And the ruling elite still sheds sooner or later. And in front of the der on the Canary Islands, you can slam the door.
  4. cobalt
    cobalt 2 June 2016 07: 25
    +3
    To each meeting of Russophobes an expander as a gift, by self-arrival.
    1. Number 17
      Number 17 2 June 2016 07: 48
      +1
      Perhaps you would like to say by self-delivery to the specified address with a notification.
      1. cobalt
        cobalt 2 June 2016 07: 50
        +1
        You can say that, the main thing is that he just flew to the address, I think it’s not necessary to notify, otherwise they will run away.
    2. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 2 June 2016 08: 40
      +4
      Quote: cobalt
      gift expander

      this is like:
  5. semirek
    semirek 2 June 2016 07: 31
    +4
    I think the author of the article should not have been distracted by such an insignificant event for Russia, although the statement of the fact of another Russophobic Sabbath is obvious. The Limitrophes and their owners cannot understand one simple truth --- we Russians, sooner or later will get tired of all this, and the historical memory of our people have such a thing, in a word, there is the edge of what is permissible, and then the Russian steam rink will begin, which "gently" will ride along these limitrophes and stop somewhere in the suburbs of Berlin (by the way, not the most grateful nation, we simpletons thought that having given the GDR, we will always be honored Nemchury, but no, Russians need to be pressed for Crimea, it turns out to have entered Russia illegally, but the GDR is legal)
    Europe cannot be trusted - not only will they be deceived, they will betray.
  6. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 2 June 2016 07: 34
    +3
    the question - the helmet on the podium - apparently emphasizes the determination to repulse the Buryat hordes ?????? and so ...... the dog barks - the caravan goes on - let them yap ...... the pugs after all - no more .... ..
    1. Funnels
      Funnels 2 June 2016 09: 29
      +4
      NATO is the Russian standard; there is no money for a cap.
    2. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 2 June 2016 13: 14
      0
      Quote: Volga Cossack
      the question - helmet on the podium - apparently emphasizes determination

      yes, like a holster on Petrusya’s thigh when he met a humvee in Borispol.
  7. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 2 June 2016 07: 47
    +3
    "Because nobody in the West wants to listen to Turchynov and his associates. The song about Ukraine protecting Europe, the world, the solar system and the Galaxy from the bloodthirsty hordes of Russians is no longer interesting to anyone."

    Recalled smile
  8. Funnels
    Funnels 2 June 2016 07: 49
    +5
    "We see Russia daily firing at the Ukrainian positions, while practicing the use of new weapons and new methods of warfare, completely ignoring the basic positions of the Minsk agreements."
    Already one day to arrange for them a "demonstration" you (on) -state, as in Syria, so that you can feel the difference on your own skin.
  9. atos_kin
    atos_kin 2 June 2016 07: 57
    +2
    u_kry on every corner yell (albeit at the suggestion of Western experts) that a "hybrid" war is being waged with them. This is not a war, but (not before) a hybrid country. An artificially created hybrid from incompatible organisms is still not viable.
  10. denvar555
    denvar555 2 June 2016 08: 18
    +1
    And they really thought that if Crimea became part of the Russian Federation, then our bases and military units would not be located there? Naive dill!
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 2 June 2016 08: 28
      +2
      unfortunately naivete and does not smell! all the speeches of Ukrainian politicians on a carbon copy of the US State Department! hi
  11. lao_tsy
    lao_tsy 2 June 2016 08: 25
    +2
    Well, we are waiting for provocations from Tozhegosudarstva under the tune of the Black Ruler. I think. that by tradition everything will start during the Olympiad.
  12. Atomist
    Atomist 2 June 2016 08: 46
    +2
    And he also took a helmet for solidity? Or has he already taken the cap to the import?
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 2 June 2016 11: 43
      0
      Quote: Atomic
      And he also took a helmet for solidity? Or has he already taken the cap to the import?
      He is not the first year in the army, you never know what Russia will do there!
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 June 2016 09: 10
    +1
    The guys apparently do not understand that they are shooters.
    That they are set up in order to have a clue, to receive from us in the face and then they will intervene.
    But in any case, before that they will rake the lyuli in full, there is no getting around this.
  14. Tanya
    Tanya 2 June 2016 09: 24
    +1
    Quote: Atomic
    And he also took a helmet for solidity? Or has he already taken the cap to the import?


    Hard hat - for solidity. But why not remove the bar from the Soviet Order of the Red Star? request
  15. soldner
    soldner 2 June 2016 10: 29
    +2
    Decent people of "General" Koval would not listen. After that shameful incident in Crimea, they either leave the service or shoot. Let me remind you that this figure was kidnapped by ordinary Crimean bikers in front of the public and border guards !!!
  16. Bramb
    Bramb 2 June 2016 10: 31
    0
    There is nothing to analyze here, numbers to count and so on.
    It just creates a noise background. And it must be supported. Noise background theme: Russian aggression.
    Therefore, such and similar articles will continue to be. Meetings will be. There was no evidence, no, and never will be. they do not need them. All that is needed is a noise of a certain orientation.
  17. rus-5819
    rus-5819 2 June 2016 11: 02
    +1
    "It is their weapon that is used to fire in the east, it is their soldiers who are killing Ukrainians, it is they who started the war."

    I forgot to add "it was their sappers who flooded Arsenka's ditches for their combat swimmers, and the quartermasters put rotten tents in the camp according to NATO standards."
  18. Myth
    Myth 2 June 2016 11: 15
    0
    Roma as usual: Angry but Argumented wink
  19. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 June 2016 11: 38
    0
    The congregation "endured", more than once beaten by Russia!
  20. Svetlana
    Svetlana 2 June 2016 12: 36
    +1
    Quote: siberalt
    The criminal gang of Russophobia from the former republics of the USSR, but to bring it to the international level as something nekomilfo. Not the format to pay attention to. The author gives a resonance on the zero occasion, actually playing into their hands. Do we need it? hi Sorry, Roman, but here's my minus to you. Thanks only for the info!

    No resonance gives the novel. Resonances are there without Roman, too. Information is needed every day fresh. What is happening in Ukraine, who says what and for what reason. This needs to be known not only to our intelligence, but also to us, ordinary people.
  21. DesToeR
    DesToeR 2 June 2016 14: 05
    0
    “Russia is not a third party, but an aggressor. This is their weapon used to fire in the east, it is their soldiers who kill the Ukrainians, it is they who unleashed the war ”

    Personally, one thing is not clear to me in this whole ukroritorike: if you think that your country was attacked by Russia, if Russian soldiers are killing your citizens, then why the so-called "aggressor"? Who is Ukraine officially fighting with? If there are Ukrainians on the site, tell me how your authorities interpret this cognitive dissonance?
    1. Pitot
      Pitot 2 June 2016 16: 33
      -1
      The right question. The answer begs - maybe someone's interests in Russia and in Russia overlap? The 5th column is extensive, impudent, awesome. Must see .....
    2. Prosha
      Prosha 5 June 2016 23: 10
      0
      No, well, you are strange!)) You can't declare war, you can get it in your face - "they will answer for the occupier")), And then they just got together, n ... you see, someone will be scared and they will send Enyuzhka
  22. aba
    aba 2 June 2016 20: 42
    0
    And alas, but the "fifth army" in the world (or Europe, I do not remember exactly) has slipped to the usual limit-begging in the company of its own kind. Unbelievable, but it is a fact.

    would look at the parades of the Armed Forces of the Baltic countries, so it would immediately become clear what weapons they can give: ATVs, trucks ... And that’s all for sure.
    And the fact that there is NATO technology, so they do not dispose of them.
  23. proud
    proud 2 June 2016 22: 21
    0
    I can understand a lot, but why does he need a helmet in parliament?
  24. major147
    major147 3 June 2016 00: 21
    0
    I apologize for the syllable, but these in our unit were called "vzhopupobibushki". Once again, "sorry".
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 June 2016 15: 06
    0
    Do not touch Kovalya, what have you forgotten, this is our Cossack mishandled. Not for nothing that he was secretly abducted by a connection, pretending to be bikers. lol
  26. Prosha
    Prosha 5 June 2016 23: 07
    0
    No, everything is logical here, before they shouted at the top of our voices: we feed the whole Union (Russia), and now they are defending all of Europe, we know how they fed, and Europeans think that it is the way Ukraine tells them .