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Alexander Rogers: Answer Nazi Kucherenko-Kalashnikov

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Alexander Rogers: Answer Nazi Kucherenko-Kalashnikov



You can leave the swamp cross, and you have to take off the T-shirt ...


Pan Kucherenko, known in the world as Maxim Kalashnikov, a few days after I wrote the text Farewell, Strelkov! I woke up, became indignant and set up my answer Farewell, Kassad!

Then I realized that I was lazy and urgently renamed, but the search engine cache already remained. It’s difficult, probably, to be a drug addict - all the time you confuse Rogers and Rozhin, Hegel and Gogol, Babel and Bebel, Sarah Bernard and St. Bernard, bagels with stews.

It was difficult to isolate meaningful fragments from this stream of unconscious delirium to answer, but I tried. Since the structure of Kucherenko’s text is ragged, consisting of weakly intertwined “spittle”, then the answer will be in the thesis-counter-thesis format.

Kucherenko: The current time has shown who is who. It blew off the masks and separated the people from the shit.

Rogers: And they collected all the crap on the January 25 Committee.

Kucherenko: Rogers accused me of being “stuck in the 90's” and not praising the regime’s “unprecedented success”?

Rogers: I asked for someone to praise somewhere? Where? Just a fairy tale about "Russia will fall apart in a month" I have been reading for nine years (and you write them and even more). And yet your dreams will not come true.

Kucherenko: Rozhin, I’m not a propagandon like you, and I travel both in factories and in regions. And I perfectly see what kind of ass the Kremlin has driven both regions and Russian industry.

Rogers: Well, here “Rozhin” forgot to correct. Uzi, you'd better confirm your delusions.

I also travel by region. And you know what I see? New sports grounds in the courtyards, new kindergartens, the lack of skinheads in jeeps and so on. New enterprises are opening all the time, food production has become a plus and has begun to export. Russia has again become the leader in wheat trade. And overtook the United States in space. Open the site "Made by Us" at least once, rejoice for the country!

Kucherenko: I, unlike Rogers, take noodles from my ears and myself have shown many times how the current government profukalno oil and gas trillions and plunged the Russian Federation into the current systemic crisis.

Rogers: What is the crisis? Is that degree of autarky increased? In the fact that they began to produce more high-tech products?

Kucherenko: The situation in the industry of the Russian Federation is worse in a number of positions than under Yeltsin.

Rogers: Such loud statements by normal people are confirmed by statistics. But not Kucherenko.

Kucherenko: You, jesters and flatterers for the master's ration, don't you see how the Kremlin threw the Russians of Donbass (and the whole of Novorossia) under a tank, to hell?

Rogers: When was the last time you were in New Russia? Never? And I was, and repeatedly. And we have guys-military officers (and not only boys - hello Anna Dolgareva!) They are constantly sitting there, as in Syria, where you have never been too.

Today, life in LDNR is objectively better than on the remnants of Ukraine. Salaries and pensions are still low (recently, by the way, slightly increased), but the communal apartment is very low, and crime is much lower than in Kiev itself.

And with regards to the war-so we will win, if you do not arrange us Maidan in Moscow.

Kucherenko: You do not want to admit the futility of the Syrian adventure?

Rogers: Only a complete moron can write this. Or the propagandon of the Russian Maidan, working for the State Department.

In Tartus, the base of the Russian Navy. If ISIL had killed Assad, then we would have lost it. Further LIH would go into the soft underbelly of Russia, in our Central Asian republics. The next step would be to build a gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU, after which we would lose advantages on the gas market in Europe - at least gas would be cheaper, and the Russian market share would be significantly reduced. Again, the instrument of pressure on European politics would be lost.

But Kucherenko-Kalashnikov like when Russia surrenders allies. He would like to return to that glorious time when Yeltsin surrendered Milosevic.

Kucherenko: The Great Soviet Union was created primarily by the efforts of the Russians (Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians), and not by chocks.

Rogers: I'll answer better here.



Kucherenko: In my books, respecting the USSR, I expounded the ideology of the Third Force, national futurism, and clearly wrote that the USSR could only be saved by abandoning idiotic internationalism (on Russian bones) and by adopting the ideology of general Russian imperial nationalism, crossed with bold futurism.

Rogers: Imperial nationalism is something impossible, a spherical Kucherenko in a vacuum. As Denikin used to say, “Russian is not the one who bears the Russian surname, but the one who loves Russia and considers it to be his fatherland.” Here Denikin was an Imperial, and Kucherenko was a cheap populist and demagogue who had nothing in common with imperialism.

Kucherenko: In the future Great Russia (USSR-2), I need only Great Russians and indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation, Little Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians.

Rogers: Let's prove it in practice. Outside my window in the mornings the street-janitor-Uzbek cleans the street. Will you go replace him in this workplace? Salary is low, but in the open air. Once the Uzbeks have no place in your Russia, then someone will have to do their work. Maybe you? Or is this occupation not for the great ideologist Kucherenko, but for simple Russian boys, but “second-class Russians”?

Kucherenko: To me, not a communist, but a national-futurist, is closer to Jack London's philosophy - about the indomitable and strong white man.

Rogers: You poorly taught the biography of Jack London. London wrote about the "indomitable white man" while he was young and stupid. When he got wiser, he began to write "Iron Heel" and other social works.

Kucherenko: Do ​​you blame us with the word “Russian” in the declaration? If you are afraid to be called Russian and have adopted the nickname "Russians" - these are your problems.

Rogers: No, I blame the declaration that in Russia over seventy small nations live on an equal footing, and you are trying to create a Nazi state, where some Russians (by blood) will be more equal than other Russians (in spirit).

You see, when your ancestors sowed buckwheat under the Polish panami, the ancestors of my Tatars from Kazan helped liberate Moscow from the False Dmitry's troops. And now you come so beautiful from Ashgabat and say, “You didn’t stand here, I will determine who is a Jew in my department.”

How are you going to determine the degree of Russianness, bruised? Blood test? And issue certificates: 70% Russian blood, 56% Russian blood? Have you been a long time head on hard surfaces?

Kucherenko: I am a Russian of the Little Russian branch, and I am proud to be Russian. From my own name I do not deny you.

Rogers: Said Vladimir Kucherenko, writing under the pseudonym "Maxim Kalashnikov." No comments.

Kucherenko: With Prosvirnin on the socio-economic course, we are irreconcilable opponents. I think the nationalism is national liberalism and I see its rottenness in the economy. But on political points ... I completely agree with Prosvirnin.

Rogers: Well, yes, this is clearly not the political principle of Lenin, who said, "Before we unite, we must decisively disengage." Ban Kucherenko is ready to be friends with anyone, if it increases his chances of getting into power. Though on three chairs to sit.

Kucherenko: I consider “satellite-lofty” anti-Sovietism and ultracapitalism, as well as their social Darwinism, the “ideology” of office-flaton vunes, who have not yet seen their lives. But if they propose to do away with ethnocracies in the Russian Federation, spreading Russians, then I will support them.

Rogers: You're some kind of fixated. You Tatar girl threw? And you, as a physiologist Pavlov, "grew and did not forget"? I am with the social Darwinists, ahem, I will not sit in the same room. But the principle of Kucherenko’s principles is only obsession with “chocks”, and economic liberalism is acceptable.

Kucherenko: In addition, I advise you to learn from Prosvirnin a business acumen and ability to raise funds in support of Donbass Novorossia.

Rogers: Well, our people also collect aid from New Russia, but they simply do not promote themselves, as Prosvinkin does.

Kucherenko: And do not call Prosvirnin "Natsik"! If Yegor is a Nazi, then I am a ballerina.

Rogers: Well, so we are waiting for your performance in a pack, because he is a Nazi. The creature that claims that "95% of Russians are racially inferior, therefore they must be disposed of" is a classic Nazi.



Kucherenko: Besides, he is a social Darwinist, and the Nazis, for all their enormity, were completely socialists for the Germans.

Rogers: In all definitions of Nazism, that in ours, that Eco has, it is clearly written "Nazism is necessarily an elitist ideology." The Nazis scorned their own proletarians in the same way as foreigners. Plus, they acted solely in the interests of large capital (both industrial and banking). Where is socialism in this? That is, you also do not possess the basic political science theory.

Kucherenko: If the movement of strelkovtsev begins to turn into a party, then I will not join it - because I am already a member of the Cause Party (the party of adherents of Russian industrialization). I will remain a strong ally of Igor Strelkov and a member of the coordinating committee.

Rogers: This is “sitting on all the chairs,” which I already wrote about.

Kucherenko: And for every Rogers I will specifically show you how the state, headed by normal nationalists, works. In present-day Hungary ...

Rogers: What place does Hungary occupy in terms of the standard of living in Europe? Third or fourth from the end? Great landmark!

Kucherenko: And now count, sycophants and propagandons like Rogers, how many families of the dying Russians could be provided by sending money not to the stupid, senseless Olympiad in Sochi (which you admired so much), but to a similar program?

50 billion dollars buried in Sochi is a “kiss” for 16 of millions of Russian families (by adopting a special resolution on overcoming the democratic crisis of the state-forming people). 16 million families! 48 million kids over 10 years!

Rogers: It would be nice to start with a quote where I admire the Olympics in Sochi. You will find - I will give you a thousand dollars, buy yourself a new T-shirt in exchange for the Soviet one. For the emblem of the USSR such Natsik wear unworthy.

And now I will tell you how it turns out in practice: all drunks and drug addicts start to rivet children solely for economic incentives. But since they don’t care about these children, children grow up in appalling conditions, no one deals with them, so they grow up sick (because parents thump and prick) and stupid. Kucherenko needs voters, and smart on his nonsense are not maintained. Therefore, you give 48 millions of imbeciles for 10 years!

Kucherenko: And this is what policy we will pursue when we become power. To hell with Syria and the Olympiad! The main thing is the life of our people and its strength.

Rogers: In general, "in Syria, a catastrophe, because Kucherenko did not give the parent capital." It was worth a fuss venture. Well, give your Yandex-wallet, we will throw off ...

Kucherenko: And now about the “crushing successes” of your idols, rogers. Open a fresh "Expert" for 30 May-5 June 2016.

Rogers: Never read the liberal press before dinner. Become like Kucherenko.

Kucherenko: I have nothing against growth in the agricultural industry. But it must be accompanied by growth in knowledge-intensive industries and in the processing industry.

Rogers: Tell us about idol Ilona Max and his achievements. You're a hipster, Volodya-Maxim, and therefore must be dragged from him. New Vostochny Cosmodrome? No, I have not.

Kucherenko: Because I am in the same line as Igor Strelkov. We know how the current systemic crisis will end. Unlike you, enticing and honor lost creatures.

Rogers: Yeah. I am familiar with "analytics" from Strelkov. The Ukrainian army is the worst in the world, Donbass was leaked two years ago (but it does not merge), Assad will fall in Syria last year, and so on. So far, none of your predictions - neither yours, nor Strelkova, much less Nesmiyana - has come true. You are classic tantrums.

That's just no Maidan in Russia will not be-neither liberal nor "patriotic" or hysterical. Do not even hope.

Sorry, Kucherenko, but this lad with a rifle is much closer to me than the “Russian” Nazi Kucherenko, whose place is next to those boys from the Third Reich that you praise.



As I like to say, "The Nazi hysteria satisfied."
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  1. Vend
    Vend 2 June 2016 12: 30
    +23
    Alexander, do not comb the goat, so the goat will remain.
    1. Oleg Sobol
      2 June 2016 12: 43
      +13
      Quote: Wend
      Alexander, do not comb the goat, so the goat will remain.

      Will stay ...
      But every goat must always remember and not forget who there is Cupid, and that there is Timur ....:
      "Cupid endured the antics of Timur for a long time, who bothers him for an hour - he will hit him with a horn, then he will come, then he will throw it off the slope. The tiger could not stand it. He took him by the scruff of his neck, patted him and threw him from the slope. If the tiger wanted to kill a goat , he would have done it a long time ago. The goat got to the veterinarians in a state of shock and with a couple of scratches "...
      1. Vend
        Vend 2 June 2016 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Quote: Wend
        Alexander, do not comb the goat, so the goat will remain.

        Will stay ...
        But every goat must always remember and not forget who there is Cupid, and that there is Timur ....:

        Yes, Kucherenko did not understand anything, nor did he understand, and did not draw conclusions from the conversation.
        1. potroshenko
          potroshenko 2 June 2016 15: 02
          +4
          Why in VO articles in which bloggers and youtuber argue who is cooler? They can also make claims against each other in personal correspondence.
          1. Absurdidat
            Absurdidat 2 June 2016 16: 00
            +2
            Now, what do we care about their personal srach?
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  2. Abbra
    Abbra 2 June 2016 12: 36
    +6
    With such figures to dive - do not respect yourself. He has a hash in his head, if not cooler. And this is - most likely - forever.
    1. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 17
      +11
      Yeah, never get such a vinaigrette.
      1. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 2 June 2016 23: 40
        +1
        However, to love his homeland does not mean at all that he should love or not notice the flaws, to love means to try to contribute to the eradication of them.
    2. Berber
      Berber 2 June 2016 17: 00
      0
      I do not quite agree. But the fact that there is porridge in the head, and before the eyes the veil agrees.
  3. Pitot
    Pitot 2 June 2016 12: 37
    -18%
    And why are you, Rogers (what is this surname? Is it a citizen of what?) Cry ?? Sue. You are satisfied with the current state of things, so go to court and go ahead - prove that you are right. Are you a doctor? how did you determine that Kalashnikov is a drug addict. Damn, how easily all sorts of little sticks are hung on those who do not like it. GO TO THE COURT, OTHERWISE YOU JUST AROUND.
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      1. Svidetel 45
        Svidetel 45 2 June 2016 23: 44
        +2
        That's right, down with liberal-democratic "values", Give the dictatorship of the working people, the only question is who will represent it personally.
    2. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 21
      +8
      Dear, And you didn’t accidentally try to compare how you lived thirty years ago and now, and after that compare who the hollow is, you or Rogers.
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  4. sever.56
    sever.56 2 June 2016 12: 38
    +14
    Thank you, Alexander! "Washed" Kucherenko in full.
    Looking at such "patriots" as the one mentioned above, one involuntarily puts them on the same level as the liberals. They also harm Russia, if not more, although they hide behind patriotic slogans.
  5. Altona
    Altona 2 June 2016 12: 41
    +14
    To be honest, I did not like both. Kalashnikov-Kucherenko caught on emotions, Rogers at the end also spoke in propaganda cliches. He just didn’t take everything so close to his heart and wrote more meaningfully.
  6. BLOND
    BLOND 2 June 2016 12: 43
    +1
    So what if he has no mirror ?!
    Quote: Wend
    Alexander, do not comb the goat, so the goat will remain.
    1. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 23
      +1
      Goat and curlers will not help.
  7. inferno_nv
    inferno_nv 2 June 2016 12: 44
    0
    Rogers is beautiful as always! But people like this Kucherenko should probably be counted or quartered or something, tired of these mowing under real Russians! am
    1. inferno_nv
      inferno_nv 2 June 2016 13: 22
      -4
      The last time on the site appeared invisibility minusers))), minus, but to argue their position or arguments is weak! tongue Minus the flawed health, my "-" from a high mountain, but let your pathetic little soul rejoice that everything is anonymous and you are hiding)) !! Like all the flawed on the Internet, you can only hide behind your monitor, do not be afraid. Nobody needs the poor! wassat
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 2 June 2016 13: 35
        +11
        minus mine - for rudeness negative
        1. BLOND
          BLOND 2 June 2016 14: 11
          +5
          Quote: Koshak
          minus mine - for rudeness negative


          ... I think more "snobbery"
          (add my "-")
        2. Altona
          Altona 2 June 2016 16: 26
          +8
          Quote: Koshak
          minus mine - for rudeness

          ---------------------
          While I was doing business, I thought about the following. Basically, both Rogers and Kalashnikov are our people. The fact that she picked up on the Internet is their own business. In principle, they have more positions for rapprochement than for delimitation. I understand Kalashnikov, because I read his books. It is also dashingly written, fascinating. Naturally, he writes for young people, to say that in the USSR, with all the shortcomings, it was not very bad. Kosnodum-conservatives and their dashingly enterprising children began to do very badly. The first poorly managed - created a deficit in trade, the second benefited from this - welded on imports. They have nothing to share, both are writers. Therefore, I did not take sides, this is their business. It is from these positions that I judge. We have enemies that are much more significant, who pour one thing into our ears, while they themselves profit from us. Rogers himself wrote that "our enemies only need the Russian people to kill each other."
          As for Kalashnikov, any philosopher is a little crazy and sometimes brings him. Karl Marx didn’t relate to Russia either. But nonetheless.
          PS To be honest, I myself did not understand why Kalashnikov declared himself a "Russian fascist". A slightly different point of view is presented in his books. The Russian Empire was built in such a way that the peoples did not migrate to each other in search of work, but worked in places of residence. So Rogers is also wrong here. If an Uzbek waves a broom in Moscow and upsets the socio-cultural balance, then in the eyes of the average man he will be a lump. If he makes wing markings at the Tashkent Aviation Plant, then he is a full-fledged person.
        3. inferno_nv
          inferno_nv 2 June 2016 17: 12
          0
          And where is COARSE itself then? good
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 2 June 2016 14: 02
        +6
        Quote: inferno_nv
        Like all flawed ones on the Internet, you can hide behind your monitor,

        Rudeness on the site is encouraged by a minus. Receive and sign.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 June 2016 15: 00
          +4
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          1. inferno_nv
            inferno_nv 2 June 2016 16: 03
            +1
            Where is she behind? Who carries astronauts and astronauts to the ISS? Whose engines are used to output satellites to the usa? You answer these questions !!!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 2 June 2016 17: 28
              +3
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              1. inferno_nv
                inferno_nv 2 June 2016 20: 07
                0
                But still, they themselves can’t really fly into space! Everyone curtailed their programs. they are not safe; they also cannot come up with a new one. And of course, the Russian Federation is a cab, refueling, etc. Why do you not respect your country, people, achievements? For you, everything related to our homeland is not good? We must look back to the West, oh, that's how good it is, but do we have felt boots, bears, vodka, etc.? In space, we are still leaders and I personally don’t care where the engines, rockets, etc. were developed, in the union or already in the Russian Federation !!! It’s not necessary to sprinkle ash on your head, but strive to increase our successes and achievements, but you don’t know what developments are being carried out in the Russian Federation under the space program! So you can be proud of the amers, they still fly into space on our engines, and if not we, then your vaunted United States will sit on Earth mother for another 10 years at least !!!
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 2 June 2016 21: 45
                  +6
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                2. Svidetel 45
                  Svidetel 45 3 June 2016 00: 15
                  +2
                  That's because I respect and worry about my country, I do not want. so that she in space acts as a cab for the Americans. And they fly on our engines, not because they cannot create their own engines, but because at this stage it is beneficial for them to fly on our own and save resources for developing and creating new projects.
              2. inferno_nv
                inferno_nv 2 June 2016 20: 14
                +1
                And space has always been very expensive, we spend on development, on launch and launches (not always successful of course), on renting a cosmodrome (Baikonur), etc., and the Americans only pay us for engines (last purchase of $ 3 billion and everything, but to develop an engine, I think it costs a lot more), for the transportation of their astronauts and satellites! All of their profits from space are from telecommunication satellites, so dear again past! hi
            2. Svidetel 45
              Svidetel 45 3 June 2016 00: 09
              +2
              The Americans have lagged behind, and even how, they are carrying out complex space exploration programs, sending spacecraft to other planets and space objects, new technologies in creating fundamentally new spacecraft, for example, returning from orbit and landing the first stage of a rocket, because this is the development of spacecraft landing technologies with crews to other planets, but what about us? We exploit the Soviet legacy and act as a space cab for the Americans, which allows them to save resources for the development of new technologies and new space technology.
        2. inferno_nv
          inferno_nv 2 June 2016 16: 17
          -1
          And where did you see the rudeness dear? If defective is rudeness - well then, sorry! And explain why you insult entire nations, you do not consider rudeness, but individuals who are hiding behind the Internet and can not really explain their minus were called flawed and immediately upset? hi After all, I didn’t call a specific person flawed, but people who are blunt minded, but they cannot or do not want to explain their point of view! Even if our points of view do not coincide, this is not a reason to silently hand out the cons to everyone in a row, because they offended some nation and people like him! Like adults, and behave like children !!!
        3. inferno_nv
          inferno_nv 2 June 2016 17: 07
          -1
          But you can’t answer!))) There will probably be no answer, where do ordinary people go before the virtual marshal! laughing
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          2. inferno_nv
            inferno_nv 2 June 2016 20: 08
            0
            Let's minus more wassat , the reasoned answer is not enough for you!
      3. dorogvalera
        dorogvalera 2 June 2016 14: 22
        +6
        inferno_nv (2) UA Today, 13:22 PM ↑ New

        "Invisible minusators have appeared on the site recently)))"

        Actually, there are no invisibility here, everyone is registered.
        If you do not care about cons, why be indignant?
        thirdly, "why is it dyed? This is my natural color" wink fellow
        And yet, you write to receive pluses? Or express your opinion? In secret, the taste and color, no comrades. be prepared that not everyone agrees with your opinion.
        1. inferno_nv
          inferno_nv 2 June 2016 16: 06
          +1
          Firstly: I didn’t get indignant, but a little bit went over the minusers and they immediately showed themselves!))) There wasn’t any word or color about you, whether it is natural or painted, I personally don’t care! I expressed my opinion and I do not care - or + !!!))) Let's burn to the fullest !!! tongue
    2. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 2 June 2016 23: 57
      +2
      Well, what is he "handsome", no reasoned arguments, only propaganda slogans. Yes, probably. not in everything one can agree with Kucherenko, in some issues he is clearly brought in, but there is some truth in his words, and maybe even considerable, especially with regard to the country's economy and social justice. The successes are more than modest, especially if we take into account the potential opportunities, under Stalin, without any petrodollars under the conditions of a practical blockade, they changed the country in ten years, and now for 20 years now we have been floundering in one practically place, and everything is like that bad dancer that interferes, then low prices for raw materials, then sanctions, then corruption, etc., in general, some excuses.
  8. Flinky
    Flinky 2 June 2016 12: 46
    +3
    Kucherenko, or Kalashnikov, as he is there - it’s time for a fool already.
  9. Engineer
    Engineer 2 June 2016 12: 50
    +11
    N-yes, is that now called male talk? How two bazaar grandmothers swear and brought it up for general discussion. Mockery unworthy of this site.
    1. potroshenko
      potroshenko 2 June 2016 15: 06
      +6
      I don’t know any one or the other and don’t understand what kind of srach some big-bellied peasants spread out in the size of the whole article on VO.
  10. volodya
    volodya 2 June 2016 12: 52
    +8
    I read it to the end. One carries nonsense, the other answers him. I don’t know, it seems to me to talk with such an idiot, do not respect yourself!
    1. Berber
      Berber 2 June 2016 16: 55
      +1
      Well, why? Many consider Kalashnikov a respected person. Therefore, I think it was necessary to answer. Moreover, Rogers correctly laid out everything, with a concept.
  11. Wolka
    Wolka 2 June 2016 12: 56
    +2
    "born to crawl, cannot fly," and what is it that trying to explain to the rabid Natsik what is inaccessible to him in life ... "if they talk about you behind your back, then your life is more interesting than those who talk about you, if they spit on you, then you still ahead of those who spit ... ", and all with envy
  12. Pereira
    Pereira 2 June 2016 12: 56
    +8
    Who cares about their personal squabbles.
    They would go skype and calm down.
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  13. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 2 June 2016 13: 05
    +6
    Both Kalashnikov and Strelkov have been completely exhausted since the 25th of January; they will not wash themselves off in a century. Strelkov generally became a champion of fascism.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 June 2016 13: 07
      +2
      What is fascism? Besides the stigma and the bad word?
      1. Fonmeg
        Fonmeg 2 June 2016 13: 36
        0
        Pereira RU Today, 13:07 ↑ New
        What is fascism? Besides the stigma and the bad word?


        Watch the film "Ordinary Fascism" by Mikhail Romm and maybe you will understand!
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 2 June 2016 13: 44
          +1
          Sorry, but do you know that Germany did not have fascism?
          So I ask, what do you know about fascism in addition to the propaganda cliche?
    2. Berber
      Berber 2 June 2016 16: 51
      0
      I agree with you completely - they.
    3. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 3 June 2016 00: 24
      0
      And now it is fashionable for anyone who does not like for whatever reason to immediately call him a fascist, the liberals of the right are called "communist fascists", the right calls the liberals "libero-fascists", the manifestation of any cruelty is also often called fascism, although often they do not even really represent , but what is fascism as a political phenomenon.
  14. japs
    japs 2 June 2016 13: 18
    +5
    Do not stoop to an argument with an idiot ... (c)
    Rogers is trying to speak imbecile in a normal language. In vain, they do not understand him.
    The practice of nat-social. much more efficient. Since 1933, labor camps such as Sachsenhausen and Buchenwald.
    But this is not our method (c)
    1. Riv
      Riv 2 June 2016 13: 29
      -1
      Why not ours? As Comrade Stalin said: "You need to learn from the enemy." You can also borrow something from Nazi practice. Labor, as you know, made a man out of a monkey.
  15. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 2 June 2016 13: 18
    +7
    A strange article, as it was allowed here, is a complete violation of paragraph a) of the rules. Or is it possible to insult an opponent in an article, but not in the comments ?!
    1. Pavel Tsybai
      Pavel Tsybai 2 June 2016 13: 24
      +8
      The real question is - AUUUUUUU MODERATORS ANSWER PLEASE
      1. Gorinich
        Gorinich 2 June 2016 15: 25
        +2
        There will be no answer. It is sad to see that a normal resource begins to sink ...
  16. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 2 June 2016 13: 33
    +2
    Quote: Pereira
    What is fascism? Besides the stigma and the bad word?

    Enlighten on health.
    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051616928
    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051612357
    http://oper.ru/oforum/read.php?thread_id=1049590739
    http://oper.ru/oforum/read.php?thread_id=1049590839
    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051617243&name=Author
    http://sha-julin.livejournal.com/55900.html
    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051616203&page=2
    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051615343&page=2
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 June 2016 13: 47
      -1
      No.
      Links on the Internet and I can dig. Moreover, in your links the people unanimously confuse Germany with Italy. I guess you do too.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 2 June 2016 13: 54
        +2
        And who brought Germany out of the 30g crisis? Now, if in Russia someone says: tired of when order will be. Someone "other" begins to howl fascism, nazizm. Someone is comfortable robbing Russia under existing conditions.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 2 June 2016 14: 16
          +4
          Quote: Chisain
          And who brought Germany out of the crisis of 30g?

          Really ... who? And then another question arises - for what money did he do it. And the correct answer to this question returns us to the first question.
          So who? And more importantly - why?
  17. Svetlana
    Svetlana 2 June 2016 13: 39
    +14
    I do not agree with Maxim Kalashnikov, but:
    Firstly: it doesn’t paint a person at all and causes a negative impression of him if he rolls down to insult an opponent. Kalashnikov is not an enemy to Rogers and he is not an enemy of Russia. He has his own vision and opinion on developing events in our country and in the world. You need to be able to prove your case with normal words. Facts, figures, etc. Rogers could not do this. Truth is born in a dispute. But where is she in your argument, guys? You in the bud ruined her by mutual insults.
    Secondly: regarding the successes in our economy, I would rather agree with Kalashnikov. Perhaps, somewhere and in something taken separately, we have successes, but on a national scale there are only a few of them. We all have eyes, we all work, we are cogs in the general economic system of the country. And where are the successes? All around, enterprises are ruined and liquidated, mass layoffs and layoffs, salary cuts are underway, unemployment is growing. (Which one said that unemployment has hardly increased? I would spit on his face. And sometimes I want to spit on a TV set.) An increase in the retirement age is coming, social payments and benefits will be cut. Where are the successes? Who? Do Chubais? That one - yes, that one has a lot of money. I said it myself. Lots of.
    Thirdly: at the expense of the empire-forming people - the Russians have a historical right to such a status. This was talked about by many great people and simply famous. Stalin spoke about this in his toast after the end of the Second World War. Of course, many nationalities took part in the Great Patriotic War and were heroes. But their drop in the ocean in relation to the Russian millions of heroes, just a few. And those are drilled - snipers, who in the photographs attached to the article, rightfully deserving of the title of heroes, there were only a few dozen on the entire front.
    And in general, your argument is meaningless, because each of you is right in something, in something not. It is necessary to look for common ground, find ways out of the crisis that has arisen. And you shower each other with slops, make enemies. Russian to Russian should be a friend and brother, and we have more enemies than enough around.
    1. sunzhenets
      sunzhenets 2 June 2016 15: 48
      +6
      A big plus to you, Svetlana!
      And the article is the same big minus. I read Kalashnikov for a long time, but his views, at least, have a right to exist.
      Dear Author!
      1) This is not a controversy, but mutual insults. Such a text - write to the opponent in PM. It looks like a family scandal on the street - it's unpleasant to watch.
      2) Not every one of those who disagree with your opinion is a fascist and an agent of the State Department.
      3) In response to the phrase about chocks, publishing a photo of Nomokonov is a substitution of concepts. We have the head of the Evenki Autonomous Okrug "academician-hero-patriot" of Russia, although "he killed the first Russian at the age of 16"?
      In general, on past articles, I had a better opinion of you.
      1. Berber
        Berber 2 June 2016 16: 38
        +1
        Rogers responded to the insults of this under-fascist or re-Nazi. At the heart of all the screams, about the chock, is ordinary fear.
    2. Berber
      Berber 2 June 2016 16: 47
      -1
      In a dispute, nothing is ever born. Truth is a thing in itself, and exists independently of those who argue. As for the Russians, I think that only a critical attitude towards us will save us. And recognition of the people as imperial cuts off any criticism. At the heart of all these national conversations is an inferiority complex on a national basis. I am Russian and I have no complexes in relation to other nations. Therefore, what Kalashnikov writes is considered populism for the weak.
  18. demos1111
    demos1111 2 June 2016 13: 49
    +4
    Good day. I tried to read Kalashnikov's books, some of which he wrote with Delyagin in my opinion. I liked the first ones, especially the Battle for heaven. In the USSR2, too, nothing, but when he began to write about biferbulation points, yes ... there he definitely bent. And I think that if there is no evidence of his work for foreign intelligence and other such dribeden, let him live quietly in the country according to its laws.
  19. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 2 June 2016 13: 49
    +1
    Quote: Pereira
    No.
    Links on the Internet and I can dig. Moreover, in your links the people unanimously confuse Germany with Italy. I guess you do too.

    Enlighten us?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 June 2016 14: 07
      +3
      Thesis.
      1. In Nazi Germany there was no fascism, there was National Socialism.
      2. Fascism was in Italy and there was no National Socialism.
      3. Fascism and National Socialism are different ways of building a state.
      4. Those ideological commissars who began to call the Nazis Nazis during the Second World War consciously committed a substitution of concepts with the following goals:
      - accusing the Nazis of crimes not to use the word socialism in this case, so as not to go into the explanation of the existence of wrong socialists.
      - to discredit the concept of "fascism" for the fact that the fascists do not take money from the international Jewish finance capital and rely on their own forces in the construction of the state (European Juche). Let us remember which people are leading the ideology in the USSR?
      - replacing concepts, to achieve persistent unwillingness of people to understand the essence of fascism, so as not to allow them to see unwanted analogies and to doubt the reliability of propaganda cliches.

      Thus, to opponents who call each other fascists, I ask the question, what reason do you have to call an adversary a fascist, not knowing the original essence of this term?
      When two people shout "Fascist" in each other's face, it makes me laugh and doubt the adequacy of both.

      But I admit that the accusation of fascism is a very strong polemic technique, forcing the accused to convulsively make excuses. Whoever shouted first won the dispute.
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 2 June 2016 14: 19
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        Fascism and National Socialism are different ways of building a state.

        So much has been written .., but it all cuts to the root.
        Fascism is not a state device. National Socialism - yes, a device, capitalism, Stalinist socialism, Soviet state capitalism .. all these are types of state structure. But not fascism.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 2 June 2016 15: 57
          -1
          A corporate state - this is the way to govern the country, different from what was in the world at that time (1923 year).
      2. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 2 June 2016 16: 42
        +1
        Nationalism (Nazism) is an extreme form of fascism.
        The anti-Soviet is always Russophobe.
        The prefix "socialism" is just a prefix designed to lull vigilance. You've probably read Mussolini's work and put it at the forefront. There was fascism in Germany, it was in its sharpest form. Capitalism, by the way, is also one of the forms of fascism. In the USSR, ideology was led by the Soviet people, this is for reference. German fascism and grew up on the capital you are talking about. For how can you increase the army from one hundred thousand people to the number that they had at the time of the attack on Czechoslovakia, and at the same time without straining your people. For the Soviet Union, the creation of an army cost an incredible effort of the people. The ideological commissioners did not substitute concepts, they called things by their proper names. And who are these wrong socialists?
        Show us unwanted analogies and propaganda cliches?
        Everything around is fools, one you are adequate.

        Citizens do not need to disguise their sympathies for fascism here, passing it off as a benefactor, people are no worse than you and understand everything. Do not consider yourself smarter than everyone. People are satisfied with the definition of fascism given by Georgy Dimitrov "Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital."
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 2 June 2016 20: 29
          0
          The captured Germans were very offended when they were called fascists. They said - I am an honest national socialist, and have nothing to do with the fascist scum.
          The Italians beat themselves in the chest and shouted - I am an honest fascist and have nothing to do with the Nazi bastard.

          Nationalism (Nazism) is an extreme form of fascism.


          In these words you confused Nazism and nationalism.

          For how can you increase the army from one hundred thousand people to the amount that they had at the time of the attack on Czechoslovakia, and without straining their people.


          The German people tensed with delight.

          Show us unwanted analogies and propaganda cliches?


          The above has already shown.

          About intelligence.

          Nobody calls into question your level of intelligence. Which is, such is. Humble yourself.
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 June 2016 13: 56
    +1
    At Rogers I like to read economic patterns.
    It’s always clear on the case.
    And according to this article ... There is a war, right now it is.
    May bombs and shells not fall on us,
    but the slogan "everything for the front, everything for victory"
    we fully feel in our pockets.
    And those who advise throwing a rifle and go give up ...
    Well, we remember how they are called and what is customary to do with them in wartime.
  21. Pitot
    Pitot 2 June 2016 14: 05
    +7
    Oh how. 5th column was excited - threw me minuses for my opinion? But what about democratic capitalist principles? Yes, I also consider myself a nationalist. Normal nationalist. In my nationalist thinking and vision - all, I repeat, all peoples and ethnic groups, from time immemorial, living, building, defending their homeland - Russia, my friends, associates, brothers. In my nationalist vision - there is no place for homosexuals and the rest is similar to the conquest of universal human perversions. There are no religious freaks who, through a lie, deceive people into their perverted concepts of the Laws of the Universe and the Most High. And in your nationalist vision, which in your false-capitalist vision - all nationalists - bastards and bastards. How very thin you Rogers are, driving in dislike for your homeland-Russia. What are you giving snipers as an example? You give an example of how many Russian boys died in perestroika in the ranks of gangs in the Chechen wars. My relatives in Dushanbe (the gad city, to demolish it once and for all) died during the pogroms. Change drove, but it resembles the name of the flag of the pirates. Or are you one of them? And you are 5 columns, early rejoice - the peoples of Russia will figure it out in the end whom to put a minus.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 2 June 2016 14: 17
      0
      Not everything is clear here:
      http://od-novorossia.livejournal.com/809128.html
    2. black
      black 2 June 2016 14: 37
      +2
      Well, I put you minus. 23th in a row. What I just was not. Russian nationalist, Bandera henchman, stupid quilted jacket. And finally he became the representative of 5 columns. Hooray! The circle is closed.
      I read Rogers quite often. Not because I specifically track. But because our interests coincide, at least in the information space. And I treat him with respect. Kalashnikov and others like him annoy me. Cheap populism, lack of education, hysteria. Ask these would-be patriots what they did to make life better in their country. What will they answer? - "They exposed the authorities." You too. "You mix sinful with pasta." Put on the same board those who died in the war and during the gangster showdown. Try to remember. "Hate is the payback for fear." Therefore, let's leave Dushanbe alone.
  22. Darwin
    Darwin 2 June 2016 14: 15
    0
    Quote: inferno_nv
    The last time on the site appeared invisibility minusers))), minus, but to argue their position or arguments is weak! tongue Minus the flawed health, my "-" from a high mountain, but let your pathetic little soul rejoice that everything is anonymous and you are hiding)) !! Like all the flawed on the Internet, you can only hide behind your monitor, do not be afraid. Nobody needs the poor! wassat

    plus to you
  23. Yegorchik
    Yegorchik 2 June 2016 14: 34
    +7
    A vile article, some Jesuit casuistry is some kind, the author deliberately substitutes concepts to please the reader.
    Well, for example, why did the author stick a photo of an Evenk sniper? Let’s honestly, the chocks that everyone and everyone is tired of are called Caucasians, and it was Kalashnikov who meant them and got those chocks not only Russian but also all the other peoples of Russia, the recent case when the Dagis pissed the Buddha to that is an excellent confirmation and for the Kalmyk Buddhists these dagas are completely chocks for Evenks are Chechens and Dagi are chocks. And Kalashnikov will never be called Kalmyks or Buryats or Evenks for he’s not a fascist, and the most ordinary leftist who simply got tired of the fact that the authorities are constantly nursing with Caucasians who are neither power nor Russian , Evenki do not respect anyone at all.
    1. Chisayna
      Chisayna 2 June 2016 15: 28
      0
      When he worked in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, he witnessed one conversation. They came to the market, and there, an Azerbaijani, an Armenian or a Dagestan, in general, two proud Dzhigits, the owners of small stalls, talk about who the block is. A Caucasian is passing by, one of them. The owner of the kiosk, the Azerbaijani himself says: is it a block of wood? And he answers no. Passes Yakut, the owner of the kiosk hunt says that passed a block.
    2. Berber
      Berber 2 June 2016 16: 33
      +1
      I hate any Nazis. It doesn’t matter whether they are Russian or another nation. As life has shown, it is possible to incite Nazism in any nation. I spent all my childhood and youth in the Caucasus, and those who scream, the chocks got simply inferior themselves. I often watch peeing boys - mostly Russians. It’s natural that it’s not ugly. And I think it's a shame. To make it clear - I'm Russian.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 2 June 2016 17: 02
        +3
        My institute wanted to send my mother to the Caucasus to one of the republics. My mother was young, rejoiced, warm, resorts, fruits. Well, she was young. But her mother, my grandmother said: go there, forget that you have a mother, but then the USSR was still there. So my mother stayed in Siberia. Later, already in the 90s (nineties), seeing on the TV what was going on there, I told my grandmother thank you, although my grandmother was no longer there at that time. They also wanted to send my mother to Central Asia, but with the same result.
  24. Pitot
    Pitot 2 June 2016 15: 42
    -1
    Rogers. I was not too lazy, I climbed into the blessed (pah, pah) Internet. Bah, and you are by chance not from Shabbat? Are you trying to drive the idea that Russia is again to blame? No matter what. The main thing is to blame. And in the article - in the frenzied nationalism of Russia in the person of Kalashnikov? Take a look around. Your kaklaina since September 18.09.2011, XNUMX is called Khazaria. New Khazaria. And the methods of needlework by the country that you turned there into a geyropovskoy gang are not at all peaceful. You figure it out with your perverted nationalism Kaklovsky. Together with Jewish fascism.
  25. Berber
    Berber 2 June 2016 16: 26
    +1
    Maladets yes! Rolled out the freak in full. I am half Tatar, my wife is half Greek, and my children are Cossacks. :)))
  26. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 2 June 2016 18: 46
    +1
    Quote: Pitot
    Oh how. 5th column was excited - threw me minuses for my opinion?

    Quote: Pitot
    Bah, and you are by chance not from Shabbat?

    Quote: Pitot
    Together with Jewish fascism.

    As for the 5th column - so such pitons, national Kalashnikovs, mallow is the 5th column. The thief shouts: "Stop the thief!"
    These kids are disguised, primitively, however, counting on: "Aah, bastards, Christ-sellers !!!". On the Maidan, in short. When the head should turn off.
    In fact, if they are mentally normal, then most likely they are just agents. It is clear that if the Maidan happened in Russia, will it fall apart? Of course, it is clear if there are brains! And the most explosive topic is nationalism. In reality, the Russians are enemies to these pythons and Natsikalashnikovs with morgues! They need a collapse. After all, they crawled out onto the swamp under the guidance of the most inveterate liberals, and at the same time they did not declare any Jewish fascism to Nemtsov!
    And Rogers is very optimistic. It is clear that Russia, in the person of power elites, has not yet abandoned its course towards a merger with Europe. It is clear that under this merger a lot of things have been done / broken (and not yet finished ...). It is clear that a drop in energy prices + sanctions is very bad for our commodity economy.
    But nationalists and liberals are two sides of the same coin. And this medal is called - the 5th column. And we need to do so that they could not be heard without our extensive comments. You need to knock them out of the network! These are the enemies of Russia, the enemies of each of us!
    1. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 3 June 2016 00: 41
      0
      Well, this is your personal opinion, and your idea of ​​who is a fascist and who is a liberal, and someone may have an opinion that people like you need to be knocked out of the network and make gatherings from this site for like-minded people who will praise and assent a friend to a friend, as in the famous Krylov's fable.
  27. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 2 June 2016 21: 11
    +4
    The article left a feeling, two took off their dirty laundry and put it on public display to prove which of them was right. Both are wrong. The advice is to wash everything in the same washing machine and do not do so anymore.
    The question of the situation of Russians exists: the question is serious and painful. But one cannot slide to extremes.
    Russians have a unique humanity story.
    Indeed, our ancestors settled across vast territory without destroying local tribes and nationalities (unlike Europeans who colonized indigenous peoples, turning them into slaves, non-people, and simply destroying them. This is precisely the historical pride of the Americans).
    The Russians, coming to new lands, did not crowd out the locals, communicated as necessary, did not impose their culture and customs, behaved like an older brother. As a result, the nationalities preserved their language and customs, but at the same time they acquired new knowledge and skills that they needed for development. This knowledge was brought to them by the Russians. Our ancestors were very wise people and current generations should understand this.
    In Soviet times, the country changed dramatically: universal literacy, health education, industrialization of the country. By whom and at the expense of whom was this done? Russians. This is primarily due to those people who put the interests of the state above personal ones, went to where their country sent. The Russians were the force that raised the country a notch, rallied the country.
    Why did the USSR fall apart? The peoples basically understood that the country should be united. But local elites could not miss such a chance to become the head of a new state, and not a cog in a single country.
    But everything turned against those who rallied the country against the Russians. They were forced to leave the former republics, those who could do it. But not everyone could. The truth about the number of Russians destroyed we will never know, it is too unprofitable for those who are in power in the country and republics today.
    But Russians are being squeezed in their own country: many types of business are in the hands of diasporas, migrant workers occupy jobs. Here I thought: even Russian surnames among the officials are a minority, although the Russian surname is not necessarily Russian nationality.
    Many Russians appeared in Ukraine, this was due to the consequences of the war and the desire of the leadership to strengthen the western borders. A common language, Russian is what connects the citizens of Ukraine. Mova is planted artificially. You can constantly speak a foreign language, but in danger a person says what he thinks, and the citizens of Ukraine in Russian think.
    And today, Russians are being destroyed there because they are Russians, at least in the majority.
    They destroy Russians where killing, where not giving the opportunity to live and work, but in general everywhere. When the descendants of former slaveholders and colonialists hold world power, they will destroy the Russians, for all the good and necessary things that Russians have done for centuries. Because they have something to hide from the past, but nothing to boast about - the West just hates us, just like insignificance hates perfection. In all ways, starting from slander and Russophobia, deceiving and defaming, and, finally, destroying economically.
    When there are communities today that raise the Russian question, this is justified. But the most important thing is why they do it, what and how they can do it. At one time, I was shocked by the story of the beating by skinheads of the honored test pilot from Zhukovsky Tolboev. Such "patriotism" and "protection of Russians" is even worse than Russophobia.
    The right thing to do Russian is to unite and support each other, and not to beat the guest workers, this is not our method, our ancestors did not create Russia like that. Moreover, one does not need to understand% of blood of a certain nationality. Russian is a person whose native language is Russian; Russian is a state of mind, an understanding of will and justice, these are traditions of our wise ancestors.
  28. aleks700
    aleks700 3 June 2016 06: 21
    0
    This is called I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yaryama. On the flaws, both are right. The disadvantages must be summarized. Of course, there are achievements. Thanks for sanctioning at least for that. The West will help us - as Ostap Ibrahim said. And he helped. Sanctions.
  29. CONTROL
    CONTROL 6 June 2016 08: 18
    0
    ... Mmmm-da-ah-ah ...
    "Relapse-exacerbation with complication of mutual ultrapatriotic chitropopia ..."
    ... Beat your own so that strangers are afraid!
  30. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 9 June 2016 11: 55
    0
    Quote: Pereira
    The captured Germans were very offended when they were called fascists. They said - I am an honest national socialist, and have nothing to do with the fascist scum.
    The Italians beat themselves in the chest and shouted - I am an honest fascist and have nothing to do with the Nazi bastard.

    Your sources are top-notch. What does your grandmother say about this?
    Quote: Pereira
    Nobody calls into question your level of intelligence. Which is, such is. Humble yourself.

    But yours is torn from the head by a fountain. Some words and opinions. As about fascism so with emotion, as about Soviet ideology so with contempt. Citizen - you are a hollow-necked and finished Russophobe.