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In 2017, Russia will launch the first phase of the world's most powerful dual-purpose laser machine

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At the ongoing forum "Atomexpo-2016" the head of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center, located in Sarov, Valentin Kostyukov made a very loud statement. According to him, based on the All-Russian Research Institute of Experimental Physics, by the end of 2017, the first phase of the world's most powerful laser facility will be launched in Sarov. Particularly noteworthy is that in the newest high-power laser setup, 95% uses domestic technologies. Valentin Kostyukov did not report the percentage of domestic components.


RIA News referring to RFNC-VNIIEF reports that the UVL-2М installation is intended for conducting fundamental research in the field of high-energy density physics. The energy of the Russian laser machine in 2 is more than twice the French and American counterparts (4,6 MJ versus 1,8-2 MJ output energy for US and French facilities).

In 2017, Russia will launch the first phase of the world's most powerful dual-purpose laser machine


The dimensions of the installation are more than impressive: its height is approximately equal to 30 m, the area is almost two football fields.

In fact, the new laser installation has a dual purpose. In addition to the use of UFL-2М in the field of civil energy, the installation has certain possibilities for creating special types weapons (including thermonuclear). The power of the installation allows you to carry out the most ambitious experiments, and a few degrees of safety minimize the risk during development.

Companies from the countries of South-East Asia, Latin America, Europe and Africa participate in the VIII international forum “Atomexpo” held in Russia. The main purpose of the event is to strengthen cooperation in the development of nuclear energy.
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  1. CORNET
    CORNET 30 May 2016 13: 44
    +52
    Surprise ... gentlemen!
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 30 May 2016 13: 46
      +31
      Russian scientists are the best in the world!
      Let the Westerners once again shed whatsoever.
      They yap, and Russia creates such a cool thing that they never dreamed of.
      We must also start the mule, which is preparing to launch a booster rocket with a mirror that will hang over America. We only need a laser to shoot, and the mirror will reflect where we need to. ... to Obamson in the window laughing .
      Let the diapers stock up.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 30 May 2016 13: 48
        +25
        Is this our answer to the Amer rail railhotron? good What can I say: cool, than answer "gentlemen"? tongue
        What kind of envious person appeared on our site? - Strives to "minus" the first comments?
        1. Altona
          Altona 30 May 2016 14: 00
          +21
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Is this our answer to the Amer rail railhotron?

          -----------------
          They took it off the tongue. And then right in the morning, you called your ears about this railgun. Apparently a destroyer with a railgun will be towed by a dash cable to carry a "battery" for it, in the form of another ship or barge.
          1. cniza
            cniza 30 May 2016 14: 04
            +11
            Everyone has such a first thought, but something tells you this is not all trump cards.
        2. potroshenko
          potroshenko 30 May 2016 14: 04
          .
          Who has more "cut"?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 May 2016 14: 41
            +52
            Quote: potroshenko
            Who has more "cut"?

            In Ukraine!
            1. potroshenko
              potroshenko 30 May 2016 15: 04
              +15
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In Ukraine!

              Well, this is understandable, now the Ukrainian helm is "effective managers" of the XXI century.
              1. venik
                venik 30 May 2016 20: 02
                +6
                Quote: potroshenko
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                In Ukraine!

                "effective managers" of the XXI century.

                = b =====
                One of the worst troubles of the XXI century is "effective managers" !!
                One "Marshal Taburetkin" is worth something! I don’t want to talk about the others !!! Scum.
              2. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 1 June 2016 12: 58
                0
                Quote: potroshenko
                Well, this is understandable, now the Ukrainian helm is "effective managers" of the XXI century.

                Just now? And before?
          2. vlad_m
            vlad_m 30 May 2016 14: 54
            +16
            The Russians have more "cut" ...

            The Russians will be able to saw through the core of matter with this installation. And they are only money ...
          3. venik
            venik 30 May 2016 18: 26
            +2
            Quote: potroshenko
            Who has more "cut"?

            ===
            Muda-s !!
            As one "guarantor of the constitution" said - We do not need science, we need weapons ...
          4. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 1 June 2016 12: 57
            0
            Quote: potroshenko
            Who has more "cut"?

            Ukrainians, ash stump-you can not beat!
        3. Orionvit
          Orionvit 30 May 2016 15: 15
          +13
          We have heaps of such envious people on our website. I don’t know, maybe they minus from their natural opportunism, maybe from illiteracy, but most likely from their enemy essence and rejection of everything Russian. I should know the names, otherwise in my opinion this anonymity is useless. As on other sites. Like that "thank you said" such and such, and a list. If, for example, I put a minus, then I can argue my position and I have no need to hide.
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 30 May 2016 19: 50
            +5
            Quote: Orionvit
            We have heaps of such envious people on our website. I don’t know, maybe they minus from their natural opportunism, maybe from illiteracy, but most likely from their enemy essence and rejection of everything Russian. I should know the names, otherwise in my opinion this anonymity is useless. As on other sites. Like that "thank you said" such and such, and a list. If, for example, I put a minus, then I can argue my position and I have no need to hide.


            I am insinuating stupid, stupid, not understanding the essence of the news, always in the case and not in the case of the goof.
            Not willing to at least an iota to understand the subject itself.

            I didn’t minus before - now I started.
            One must try to understand everything, and not throw bonnets into the air like market girls who saw dragoons and a lancer ...
        4. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 31 May 2016 12: 18
          +5
          They got us with their railgun, here's the answer, by the way, I think when needed, and we'll get our railgun out of the "wide trousers" as far as we know, ours is more compact and more powerful! It is customary for us to store surprises for dessert. Moreover, if from them, often misinformation, from us real!
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 30 May 2016 16: 29
        +9
        Quote: Michael67
        They yap, and Russia creates such a cool thing that they never dreamed of.

        according to maydanutyh mattresses have already created laughing
        1. 11 black
          11 black 30 May 2016 17: 09
          +5
          Quote: Lukich
          according to maydanutyh mattresses have already created laughing

          Tell me, what does Ukraine have to do with it?
          The fact that the mattress covers have been created cannot be a "Laser missile defense", it can only knock down the hoods of cars, but we are unlikely to bombard them with cars - this is only their tactics ...
          And yet - if you dig further, it would be nice to think about how the laser beam behaves when it encounters a cloud of plasma, which when hypersound will certainly surround the rocket - the plasma, it seems, reflects / attenuates electromagnetic radiation ... in addition, for example, a mirror reflects on a reflex telescope 99 and 9 nines after the decimal point of the percent of the radiation incident on it, theoretically purely creating a highly effective reflective coating is hardly more difficult than a combat laser ...
          1. venik
            venik 30 May 2016 18: 38
            +4
            [quote = 11black] [quote = Lukich]
            And yet - if you dig further, it would be nice to think about how the laser beam behaves when it encounters a plasma cloud, which when hypersound will certainly surround the rocket - plasma, it seems, reflects / attenuates electromagnetic radiation ... [/ quote]
            ===
            Answer: A laser beam in a cloud of plasma is scattered!
          2. Lukich
            Lukich 30 May 2016 19: 15
            +2
            Quote: 11 black
            Tell me, what does Ukraine have to do with it?
            The fact that the mattress covers have been created cannot be a "Laser missile defense", it can only knock down the hoods of cars, but we are unlikely to bombard them with cars - this is only their tactics ...

            but did nge notice that I was laughing at this stupidity? or you do not pay attention to emoticons?
          3. Alex20042004
            Alex20042004 31 May 2016 17: 47
            +3
            And, you wanted to convince the pan-leg-killers ?????????
            You are just crazy.
            1. behemot
              behemot 31 May 2016 19: 15
              +1
              a bunch. ETOGES must be so degraded. Bravo America, bravo !!! Burn the brain, and pour shit. The faster these stupid creatures gnaw each other, like rats, the better.
          4. although
            although 1 June 2016 08: 25
            +2
            something like that.
        2. code54
          code54 30 May 2016 23: 27
          +3
          And I would like to see how at a maneuvering target at a distance of at least 20 km. the laser from a point on the earth will be guided and hold the target !? What microns should the unit move? Maybe someone will explain?
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 1 June 2016 12: 42
            0
            And I would like to see how at a maneuvering target at a distance of at least 20 km. the laser from a point on the earth will be guided and hold the target !? ,,
            in general, back in the 80s, we tested the laser through their shuttle (from the earth's surface)
            the amers didn’t like it; they started to get something buggy there.
        3. Krasniy_lis
          Krasniy_lis 31 May 2016 11: 57
          +1
          He laughed. What to take from Selyuk. What they say is true. About their science ... fuka. Brains zaydanili. All.
        4. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 31 May 2016 17: 45
          0
          Yes, well done, and the radius of action of this balalaika is all 3 km. !!!
        5. behemot
          behemot 31 May 2016 19: 12
          +1
          It is interesting that for the overeating fat, the degenerate calculated the price lined at $ 1 (one dollar)
          Interestingly, Ukrainians from happiness experience an orgasm from such highs?
    2. vlade99
      vlade99 30 May 2016 13: 50
      +3
      Quote: CORNET
      Surprise ... gentlemen!

      If, according to such a surprise, once a week, after a year the sashanata will be asked to the USSR-2.0
      1. CORNET
        CORNET 30 May 2016 14: 04
        +23
        Quote: vlade99
        Quote: CORNET
        Surprise ... gentlemen!

        If, according to such a surprise, once a week, after a year the sashanata will be asked to the USSR-2.0

        Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us not only a huge territory (rich in resources), but also the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex! Use sons and take care of Russia!
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 30 May 2016 14: 10
          0
          Quote: CORNET
          Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us ... the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex!

          - it is planned to launch a "dual-purpose laser facility"
          - and this technology was left to us by great-grandfathers ... well, okay - grandfathers ...

          Throw it already, yeah .. yes
          1. nrex
            nrex 30 May 2016 14: 42
            +6
            Prophetic Oleg left and hid. The manuscript was recently discovered in Sarov. In that place, the Kladinets’s sword is built against the Anglo-Saxon of the adversary.
            But seriously, by lasers we were in front of the entire planet, we are and we will be. Developments from grandfathers are still gathering dust. Waiting for their time and their babos.
            1. nrex
              nrex 30 May 2016 15: 00
              +5
              http://www.laserportal.ru/content_650

              Recommend. Laser weapons of the USSR. Informative.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 30 May 2016 15: 05
                0
                Quote: nrex
                http://www.laserportal.ru/content_650

                Recommend. Laser weapons of the USSR. Informative.

                - Yes, I’m kind of like a trainer ... so-and-so wink

                PS: someone minus has already slapped you there, I will return, if you do not mind laughing
            2. Krasniy_lis
              Krasniy_lis 31 May 2016 12: 05
              +1
              Quote: nrex
              Prophetic Oleg left

              In vain, in vain, in vain you wrote it. Now dill will begin to refer to you wink that, they say, "they themselves admit that the ancient Ukrainians invented the laser installation" laughing
          2. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 30 May 2016 16: 52
            +2
            Sary-Shagan test site. 70-ies-80s, Roman, read what they did there. Yes, someone's grandfathers worked there ..
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Quote: CORNET
            Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us ... the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex!

            - it is planned to launch a "dual-purpose laser facility"
            - and this technology was left to us by great-grandfathers ... well, okay - grandfathers ...

            Throw it already, yeah .. yes
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 30 May 2016 17: 16
              +7
              Quote: dmi.pris
              Sary-Shagan test site. 70-ies-80s, Roman, read what they did there. Yes, someone's grandfathers worked there ..

              - colleagues .. stop agitating me "for Soviet power" - I already .. do not mind, at least
              - the author's submission about the fact that "they kept ... in the military-industrial complex" - I understand, but it was not our grandfathers (and great-grandfathers) who did it, but our fathers or even ourselves
              - the proposal to the author "to tie with the grass" - is based precisely On this

              Actually, that's all request
              1. dmi.pris
                dmi.pris 30 May 2016 17: 47
                +1
                Well why. My father worked in the 70s on this issue, my son thirties knocked. Consider .. Alexander (son)
          3. venik
            venik 30 May 2016 20: 21
            -1
            [quote = Cat Man Null] [quote = CORNET] Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us ... the technologies that they hid from the liberals in the military-industrial complex! ...
            - and this technology was left to us by great-grandfathers ... well, okay - grandfathers ...

            Throw it already, yeah .. yes[/ Quote]
            ======
            Yes, you just rave, dear!
            You can’t even imagine how much has been accumulated in the USSR! All you say is the opinion of the AMATEUR !!
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 30 May 2016 21: 26
              -2
              Quote: venik
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Quote: CORNET
              Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us ... the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex!

              - and this technology was left to us by great-grandfathers ... well, okay - grandfathers ...

              Throw it already, yeah .. yes

              Yes, you just rave, dear!
              You can’t even imagine how much has been accumulated in the USSR! All you say is the opinion of the AMATEUR !!

              - young man, my father worked all his life in the USSR .. and still works .. is working
              - I’ve been in since 1985 - too .. worked out, damn it ..
              - so you better leave your opinion with you ... and if it really itching so much - two fingers in your mouth, and visit Ichthyander. With "opinion", yes ..

              Somehow yes
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              2. venik
                venik 31 May 2016 12: 10
                +4
                [quote = Cat Man Null] [quote = venik] [quote = Cat Man Null] [quote = CORNET]

                - young man, my father worked all his life in the USSR .. and still works .. is working
                - I’ve been in since 1985 - too .. worked out, damn it ..
                - so you better leave your opinion with you ... and if it really itching so much - two fingers in your mouth, and visit Ichthyander. With "opinion", yes ..

                Somehow yes[/ Quote]

                ================
                Boy! My father also worked all his life in the USSR. He is no longer there, but the operating time is still floating!
                And since 1976 he "worked". It seemed to work. The developments (collective creativity, of course) are still in service. And oddly enough, nothing better has yet been invented (at least mattress covers).
                So you can put your COMPETENT opinion on a kitten ... yes! From where it stinks !!
                And with the laser everything will be as it should! There is progress, the SCHOOL has been preserved, if there is funding, it means a motive! And what is being done (and was being done) for the most part is quiet, so this is understandable!
        2. 11 black
          11 black 30 May 2016 16: 35
          +3
          Quote: CORNET
          Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us not only a huge territory (rich in resources), but also the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex! Use sons and take care of Russia!

          Well, you know, giving all the laurels of the USSR would be simply unfair.
          Left behind - yes. But here is to bring the idea to life, finalizing it and solving at the same time many problems that inevitably arise in such a complex matter - it is no longer the USSR that needs to be said thanks.
          Externally, it looks like a laser fusion chamber. They put deuterium and tritium in a gold shell (target) there and from all sides give a powerful laser pulse, the temperature of the target goes into millions of degrees (somewhere 120 millions) and it turns out to be a big woman with the release of heat-energy.
          1. venik
            venik 31 May 2016 16: 28
            +2
            Quote: 11 black
            Quote: CORNET

            Well, you know, giving all the laurels of the USSR would be simply unfair.
            Left behind - yes. But here is to bring the idea to life, finalizing it and solving at the same time many problems that inevitably arise in such a complex matter - here it is no longer the USSR that I need to say thank you ....


            =============

            The fact that "touched" is not a half-case and probably not even a quarter-case! Maybe even less !! The main thing is left SCHOOL !!! A SCHOOL of people who CAN solve modern problems at the HIGHEST level!
            It’s so good that we managed to save this SCHOOL (maybe with losses - not without it) but still SAVE!
            As you can see - the potential is WORKING !! DO !!!
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 1 June 2016 13: 22
              +1
              Quote: venik
              The fact that "touched" is not a half-case and probably not even a quarter-case! Maybe even less !!

              This is how to look ... Here Ukraine inherited from the USSR no less groundwork - from shipbuilding, to aircraft / rocket science and nuclear energy, with the appropriate school. So what??? A good example is Nikolaev, the largest drawbridge in Europe that closes the harbor. In Soviet times, divorced a couple of times a week. It has not been used for a long time, it was repaired a year ago. And some time ago they came to Nikolaev, for a scheduled repair, 2 ships of the mighty Ukrainian Navy and could not enter the harbor, because they could not part the bridge! They fought for two days !!! That is, it’s not about creating something comparable, but about using the existing one! Because the scientific and technological achievements of the past, for modern Ukrainians, as a cyclopean masonry for the ancient Greeks, are an unthinkable artifact of the past great civilization! And you say: hurt ...
        3. mav1971
          mav1971 30 May 2016 19: 52
          -3
          Quote: CORNET
          Quote: vlade99
          Quote: CORNET
          Surprise ... gentlemen!

          If, according to such a surprise, once a week, after a year the sashanata will be asked to the USSR-2.0

          Our grandfathers, great-grandfathers left us not only a huge territory (rich in resources), but also the technologies that they hid from the liberalists in the military-industrial complex! Use sons and take care of Russia!


          1. megafair
            megafair 31 May 2016 01: 11
            +1
            Quote: mav1971
            Oh fool
            mav1971, You out of place applied, you spoiled your own head;)
    3. Dimontius
      Dimontius 30 May 2016 14: 04
      +3
      They give us a gun, we give them thermonuclear weapons fellow wow stopping !!!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 May 2016 15: 44
        +1
        Rather, a fusion reactor with tritium burning using lasers - although this technology has long existed in the west.
        1. 11 black
          11 black 30 May 2016 17: 59
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          Rather, a fusion reactor with tritium burning using lasers - although this technology has long existed in the west.

          Well, do not be cunning - since in the Russia / USSR thermonuclear reaction the leaders are enough, it’s enough to say that the international thermonuclear reactor (ITER) will be built on the basis of tokamaks from the times of the USSR and developed in it ... and the article clearly says, yes - the technology exists but they don’t have the installation of such power.
          1. dauria
            dauria 30 May 2016 19: 09
            +1
            Well, don’t be cunning - the leaders in the thermonuclear reaction of Russia / USSR,


            Here Vadim237 is right. The principle is different, not a tokamak, but a stream of hydrogen isotopes is fed to the point where the laser beams converge. So far we have reached tiny portions in capsules (really made of gold). The idea is not ours, minus it in vain
            laughing Although in Russia, Russia is the birthplace of elephants.
      2. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 31 May 2016 12: 25
        +2
        And why, very in Russian, if we do circumcision (stopping), it’s not a scalpel, but a cleaver! And who said we can’t? Well, we’ll grab the patient’s excess, what’s the matter with us? Their problems! The main thing is, the result!
    4. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 30 May 2016 14: 09
      +3
      Yes, there is no surprise — back in the early 80s, we were testing a combat laser to destroy a satellite.
    5. Aryan
      Aryan 30 May 2016 16: 20
      +8
      and what kind of printer would it be if such a laser was built for it! belay
    6. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt 2 June 2016 07: 55
      0
      I wonder when the tests will pass after the conclusion and the location of the mirror in orbit of the earth! And what will be the experimental object !!!! Preferably Washington !!!!!!!!!!
  2. avvg
    avvg 30 May 2016 13: 45
    +6
    We wish success to our brave scientists and engineers!
  3. megafair
    megafair 30 May 2016 13: 45
    +5
    As I understand it, they will test the technology of thermonuclear and cold nuclear fusion.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 30 May 2016 16: 26
      +2
      Probably. But laser technology itself is also a process.
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  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 May 2016 13: 51
    +3
    This is a pulsed fusion installation. How it will be used, given the location of the installation, is beyond doubt. How can one use a simulator of a thermonuclear explosion for peaceful purposes, something does not come up wassat
    1. megafair
      megafair 30 May 2016 14: 22
      +4
      For peaceful purposes, just a very interesting technology, read about controlled thermonuclear fusion.
      1. Znayka
        Znayka 30 May 2016 14: 44
        +2
        Just for peaceful purposes, too ... If it turns out to manage thermonuclear fusion, it will be a huge leap forward in the energy sector ... Approximately 100 times more energy than from nuclear power plants, while (despite the name "thermonuclear") not any (! !!) of radioactive waste. Well, on a TYRD to Mars and back, you can take a couple of weeks ... until fantastic (
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 30 May 2016 15: 26
          +2
          If all military developments, if implemented, but for peaceful purposes, would probably have lived in real communism. But life is such that there are many enemies and the security of the state is above all. But seriously, back in Soviet times, I had to work in secret enterprises and I’ll tell you enough of this that in ordinary life there will be no such technologies for a long time to come.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 May 2016 15: 54
          +4
          Such experimental reactors already exist - "NIF" - Inertial controlled thermonuclear fusion, a capsule - a target with tritium, is compressed - ignited with 192 lasers in a spherical chamber.
          1. sinoptic
            sinoptic 1 June 2016 13: 24
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            Such experimental reactors already exist - "NIF" - Inertial controlled thermonuclear fusion, a capsule - a target with tritium, is compressed - ignited with 192 lasers in a spherical chamber.


            Yes, the thought also came to my mind that this is a thermonuclear laboratory.
            It is great!
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 May 2016 15: 55
          +3
          Quote: Znayka
          Just for peaceful purposes, too ... If it turns out to manage thermonuclear fusion, it will be a huge leap forward in the energy sector ... Approximately 100 times more energy than from nuclear power plants, while (despite the name "thermonuclear") not any (! !!) of radioactive waste. Well, on a TYRD to Mars and back, you can take a couple of weeks ... until fantastic (

          Interesting ... a week ago there was an article on the development of the shuttle at RSC Energia, then an article on the development of a plasma rocket engine ... it seems to me alone that this news with the laser and the two previous ones about the shuttle and engine are somehow connected?
          At the same time, the search for a new way of generating energy is clearly visible ... hmm ...
          1. nikon7717
            nikon7717 1 June 2016 15: 35
            0
            Humanity is using the energy of expansion. But there is always the other side of the coin, when something expands, somewhere something contracts. Conclusion - the development of compression energy is ahead. This is the opposite of an explosion. There is an approximate analogue in weapons - a "vacuum bomb" (aerosol spraying of explosives), it burns out free oxygen in the air and everything around collapses into a void, explosive oxides in the sediment.
          2. nikon7717
            nikon7717 1 June 2016 15: 35
            0
            Humanity is using the energy of expansion. But there is always the other side of the coin, when something expands, somewhere something contracts. Conclusion - the development of compression energy is ahead. This is the opposite of an explosion. There is an approximate analogue in weapons - a "vacuum bomb" (aerosol spraying of explosives), it burns out free oxygen in the air and everything around collapses into a void, explosive oxides in the sediment.
    2. nrex
      nrex 30 May 2016 14: 45
      0
      Speaking right. Tritium also needs to be synthesized on something)))
    3. Who
      Who 30 May 2016 15: 46
      0
      Simple: the electron shell is completely torn off and due to the large transferred momentum, the nuclei "merge"
  6. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 30 May 2016 13: 53
    +4
    It is not for nothing that one of the national symbols of Russia is "nesting dolls" - revealing another piece of work by scientists, we will get to the core of our capabilities for a long time!
  7. edeligor
    edeligor 30 May 2016 13: 55
    +3
    There is very little such news lately. Thank you FNC, pleased! I agree with the opinion expressed earlier - our answer to the super duper railgun.
  8. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 30 May 2016 13: 56
    +4
    This is a pulsed fusion installation. How it will be used, given the location of the installation, is beyond doubt. How can one use a simulator of a thermonuclear explosion for peaceful purposes, something does not come up

    I'm afraid to suppose - from mosquitoes? and then these creatures got it! repeat getting closer and closer to the brink ... ugh, you! to the bedroom ...
  9. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 30 May 2016 13: 59
    +2
    After such news, half of the Pentagon warriors, including Russophobe Biden, began to jump out of their pants and let foam out of their mouths.
    1. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 31 May 2016 12: 11
      0
      And demand ANOTHER more money. good
  10. Stabilization
    Stabilization 30 May 2016 14: 01
    +3
    This is an approach to business, it is fundamental ... Not a single PR and marketing, pure science.
  11. Neputin
    Neputin 30 May 2016 14: 02
    +3
    Perhaps cold fusion can be used in the power plants of the spacecraft of the future. It is from peaceful application. And so, of course, they will make new weapons. As long as there are a number of states we will not be allowed to develop peacefully.
  12. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 30 May 2016 14: 05
    +2
    Unfortunately, the news is not new, but the fusion is moving well with us, so for now pah pah pah.
    The article has a small error:
    4,6 MJ compared to 1,8-2 MJ
    . 1,8-2 is on their target, we will have 2,8. Although it may have already improved performance.
  13. vadimtt
    vadimtt 30 May 2016 14: 06
    +1
    However, he always believed that the United States went far from us in laser technology. If, however, it is possible to do everything that is planned, then this technological breakthrough will allow Russia to regain its advanced position.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 May 2016 14: 14
    0
    Here's a laser setup from the Livermore Laboratory in California.
    Started work in 2009.

    NIF aims to create a single 500 terawatt (TW) peak flash of light that reaches the target from
    numerous directions at the same time, within a few picoseconds. The design uses 192 beamlines
    in a parallel system of flashlamp-pumped, neodymium-doped phosphate glass lasers.

    192 lasers give a peak of 500 terawatts.

    Something similar will be built in Sarovo.
    1. Znayka
      Znayka 30 May 2016 16: 58
      +4
      Warrior, well, why should everyone be misled ??? I'm not interested in the peak .., but how much on the "target" it gives ... Do you have information that it is more than 3 MJ ..?
  15. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 30 May 2016 14: 14
    +3
    They are created by the youth! But, why shout to the whole world, and even more so foreigners in this project to take?
    1. iliya87
      iliya87 30 May 2016 14: 57
      +1
      )) and you think who needs to not know? Height 30 meters long 2 football fields, how can such a thing be hidden?))
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 30 May 2016 15: 32
        +1
        )) and you think who needs to not know? Height 30 meters long 2 football fields, how can such a thing be hidden?))

        or maybe an ento storehouse ... pickled cucumbers ... put a couple of barrels near and, as in the old KVN, write - the ambassador of the Soviet Union!
  16. Penzuck
    Penzuck 30 May 2016 14: 17
    0
    Great news. wink
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 May 2016 14: 58
      +6
      It's right. Sarovo - the most powerful and competitive research center
      in Russia. It must be developed in every way further.
      1. kapitan281271
        kapitan281271 30 May 2016 15: 17
        0
        Yes, why do we need him? We need your division a lot of dough in super-skolkovo we’ll sell it so that I’ve got a couple of lectures there for a mattress of rubles and read where he will give such important lectures.
      2. Parsec
        Parsec 30 May 2016 18: 22
        0
        Sarov is a city.

        When this is how the city of Sarov is called as Sarovo, there is confidence that you have not seen texts with references to this glorious city. And sculpt confidently.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 May 2016 20: 24
          +2
          I did not try to offend the city of Sarov, honestly good
          1. Parsec
            Parsec 30 May 2016 22: 03
            0
            You cannot find the right tone.

            Well, look, look.
  17. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 30 May 2016 15: 19
    +3
    The main thing in this news is that everything is realized and become a fulfilled future :)
  18. Kachesgm
    Kachesgm 30 May 2016 15: 38
    +9
    I want to share some information about the object under construction. At our institute, KPF and TPF units are being developed for this installation. About 700 pieces of such modules are needed. So, the creation of one such unit required 3 million rubles (this is the current for manufacturing), so money will be needed there inexorably. The complexity of the entire installation is that almost the entire internal volume is evacuated. The volume of 2 football fields must be pumped out and a high degree of vacuum must be maintained — this requires the installation of serious pumping equipment, as well as control over leaks and tightness of the entire installation. In fact, we repeat the American project, only increasing the installation capacity by 1,5-2 times. They have been working on the problem of thermonuclear microexplosion for more than 5 years, but still cannot achieve positive results. So the whole project is a big question. By the way, TPF and KPF nodes are being developed by a designer who is already perfectly performing his task for 81 years, but the question is, who will do science in our country in ten years?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 May 2016 15: 57
      0
      In 10 years, all those who are interested in science will be engaged in science in our country.
    2. Verdun
      Verdun 30 May 2016 15: 57
      +2
      but the question is, who in ten years will be engaged in science in our state?
      Science in our state is already engaged in Dmitry Viktorovich Livanov. So engaged that already smoke is a rocker. ((
      it is necessary to pump out and maintain a high degree of vacuum - this requires the installation of serious pumping equipment, as well as control over leaks and tightness of the entire installation
      With vacuum installations, the situation in Russia is difficult. My wife works at the Research Institute of Crystallography, where such equipment is used to grow artificial crystals. Small installations made back in the seventies work. Modern, designed for a larger volume - not very.
  19. Verdun
    Verdun 30 May 2016 15: 51
    -2

    The dimensions of the installation are more than impressive: its height is approximately equal to 30 m, the area is almost two football fields.
    It is very useful to read this information for those who like to talk about "compact combat lasers". I would even say it is paramount!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 May 2016 10: 31
      +1
      You confuse a heavy-duty laser system for
      method of obtaining a controlled thermonuclear reaction
      and a tactical combat air defense laser with a power of 50-150 kV.
      It is placed entirely (along with food) in one
      short sea container and transported by truck.
      1. Parsec
        Parsec 31 May 2016 20: 26
        0
        The operating installations of this type are unknown outside the Boeing tests, as well as the notorious mine damage outside the tests at the White Sands training ground.

        The picture shows HEL MD (High Energy Laser Mobile Demonstrator) - a technology demonstrator, not a combat device.
        "The power of the installation is planned to be increased from 10 to 100 kW. If the tests are successful, then by 2022 the laser on wheels will go into service."

        This is how the power will be increased by an order of magnitude (by an order of magnitude!), So it will be accepted. Where did Israel get the ready-made installation "tactical combat air defense laser with a capacity of 50-150 kV" (in kV, kilovolts, measure voltage, power in kW, kilowatts), what struck her, besides the imagination of her own uncritically thinking citizens?

        That there were no illusions, here http://breakingdefense.com/2015/08/army-turns-to-lockheed-for-alternative-laser/
        the person speaks in sufficient detail.

        Well?
        1. Saburov
          Saburov 1 June 2016 06: 41
          0
          Quote: Parsec
          You confuse a heavy-duty laser system for
          method of obtaining a controlled thermonuclear reaction
          and a tactical combat air defense laser with a power of 50-150 kV.
          It is placed entirely (along with food) in one
          short sea container and transported by truck.


          Yes, at least ten trucks, zero sense!
          The laws of physics still can not get around. First - No matter how you try, the beam alas will diverge. The physical law of diffraction states that laser radiation always diverges from angle = wavelength / beam diameter. At distances of the order of meters, it can be ignored. So what is next? If we take specifically a combat infrared laser with a wavelength of 2 μm (THEL combat lasers work at such a length, etc.) and a beam diameter of 1 cm, then we get the angle of divergence 0.2 of the milliradian (this is a very small difference - for example, ordinary laser pointers / rangefinders diverge by 5 milliradians and more). Divergence 0.2 mrad. at a distance of 100 meters, it will increase the diameter of the spot from 1 cm to approximately 3 cm (if anyone else remembers school geometry). That is, the impact density will fall in proportion to the area in 7 times only by 100 meters. That is: if we know that a laser with a power of 100 KW burns an inch steel plate at point-blank somewhere in 2-3 seconds, then at a distance of 100 meters it will do this, roughly, 18 seconds. Secondly - Power criterion. The most powerful laser today is the ABL chemical COIL laser. Its power is about 1 megawatts. For comparison: the power of the 76-mm division gun F-22 of the 1936 model of the year is about 150 megawatts. 150 times more! Count yourself - the kinetic energy of the projectile (M * V ^ 2) / 2 divided by the time it is reached (about 0.01 seconds). We still do not take into account the explosive energy in the projectile itself. There are still as many. Think about this simple fact: a small ancient cannon from the time of the Second World War at a price of scrap metal is hundreds of times more powerful than an ultramodern “battle” laser weighing tens of tons and costing over 5 billions of dollars. And thirdly - As you know, the usual laser operation scheme provides for “pumping” a working medium (crystal or gas) with energy up to a certain level, and when a jump occurs, the accumulated energy is discharged by a beam of light of a certain wavelength. But where to get that energy that did not go to the goal with the beam? So, for the most part, it will stand out in the firing device in the form of heat. Thus, only 40% will go to the goal (although in reality no more than 10%), but the remaining 60% will remain with us. And therefore, even having damaged the target, we can easily vaporize our own laser. It is no accident that even in much less powerful earthly installations, flowing water cooling is used not only for mirrors, but also for the working volume of the laser.

          PS Therefore, it is easy to understand that the distance of hitting a target even in 1 km, for example, for an 100-kW laser is an unattainable dream in real conditions. Unless you understand, for example, a canister of gasoline. Or a naked man tied to a tree. That is, a minimally protected target cannot be hit with such a laser at REASONABLE distances in combat conditions.
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 May 2016 15: 54
    0
    This is our answer to the striped rails, as I understand it.
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 30 May 2016 16: 51
    +2
    A considerable surprise for the Americans is that they considered themselves ahead of the rest on the topic of inertial thermonuclear fusion (which the announced Russian project works with), and even left the ITER project, hoping for their NIF reactor, though it turned out that it the power is insufficient and they are back.

    And then it suddenly turns out that Russia is not lagging behind, but perhaps ahead of here (in addition to the topic of tokamaks, where Russia is undeniably ahead). Here are those here!
  22. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 30 May 2016 17: 21
    +2
    So we still have applied physics and people who are involved in this! It pleases me very much, even pride for our scientists arises, as in the good old days !!
  23. keinz
    keinz 31 May 2016 06: 41
    0
    what is the vacuum on 2 football fields? there it is necessary to pour a spherical monolith 3 meters thick, some nonsense .... all this crap will collapse ... I do not believe about the vacuum ..
  24. Samoyed
    Samoyed 31 May 2016 09: 15
    +1
    Great! What a great job! But someday such installations will degenerate, in a good sense, into those inserted into the cigarette lighter (Strugatsky)! I am a layman in the field of lasers, but in electronics, amplifiers from several stages are used to increase the signal power. But here you can not do, by analogy, a lot of cascades?
  25. Old warrior
    Old warrior 31 May 2016 16: 47
    +2
    Hyperboloid engineer Garin? So we have it for a long time! repeat
  26. Dembel77
    Dembel77 31 May 2016 18: 46
    0
    The installation has certain capabilities to create special types of weapons (including thermonuclear).
    Is Teromoyad somehow connected to high power lasers? Did I miss something?
  27. Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 31 May 2016 19: 50
    0
    Let them start, let them show a specific result, then we will rejoice.
  28. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 31 May 2016 19: 53
    0
    Finally, they took up the mind, and then all the cows and tomatoes.
  29. Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 31 May 2016 19: 58
    +1
    Quote: VOENOBOZ
    Finally, they took up the mind, and then all the cows and tomatoes.

    Cows and tomatoes are also needed.
  30. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 31 May 2016 21: 22
    +1
    Behind the salt puddle, they have long thought, otherwise, they would not have started "mouse fuss" at our borders. Nobody knows the potential of the Russian defense industry, so let them first think about whether it is necessary to wake the sleeping bear.
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 June 2016 05: 13
    +1
    "The economy is torn to shreds" I imagined a little differently ...
    The only question is about iron, which provides all these wonders of science.
    I hope that the most critical nodes are still domestic.
  32. Taygerus
    Taygerus 1 June 2016 10: 48
    0
    the other day, some Western politicians have expressed that Russia is hopelessly behind technology in the advanced west, so here you go, wipe out the advanced workers, they can’t even copy a rocket engine
  33. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 1 June 2016 18: 09
    0
    And yet Ukrainians are the greatest! In a short time, without equipment, no one can dig a pit of the Black Sea except ukrov. Well, you can’t dig holes and a pit.